Talk:Flare

DPS Data
Full data gathered while Testing Damage per second(DPS) 2,016 Over 62 seconds. average dps of 32. Best damage in a single second of 56 at 1 second Death occurred at 18 seconds Data collected using the standards written Here. ~ Zero rogue x 08:10, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm confused. If the spell's damage is 56 at 12 fire magic, and all standard projectile spells like this one have a .75 second Aftercast delay, isn't it just assumed that the base DPS of this skill is (56/1.75) = 32?  I'm okay with your numbers, I'm just wondering if it's worth bothering to list the DPS for every skill? (especially one so simple to calculate without a training dummy as this one is...) --Mystisteel 20:34, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Im doing all elementalist skills, This is just one of the first. ~ Zero rogue x 21:18, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Right, but for what reason? As I've said in your analysis of MoR, it's quite pointless.  Skills are either very easy to calculate, such as this one, or it's completely impossible to list all the right conditions for a spell to be of use (MoR, in which you listed how much damage it does against a single target).  I'm not asking you what you're doing, I know that.  I'm asking you why in the world are you doing it?
 * Maybe he is just really, really bored.Old Man Of Ascalon 23:25, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
 * It's not that hard, just flare spam the master of damage at the isle of the nameless and he gives the stats, rouge did the same thing. Justing6 22:48, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

I think rogue is making a very good point actually.It shows how low youre damage output actually is when youre WASTING all youre energy on this skill.It needs a buff obviously Lilondra   *gale*  15:35, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

On a primary mesmer with fast casting 16, the dps is raised to 56. Paddymew 13:04, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * And what if you shorten recharge time with spells? Does it go up, or down? /snarky | 72 User_Seventy_two_Truly_Random.jpg {U|T|C} 14:38, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * If can spam spells more you can deal more damage... isn't it obvious ? Elephant 14:51, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * If you can spam spells, I can deal more damage? Also, by your reasoning, numbers aren't needed for damage calculation, since "it's obvious they will die at some point anyway". I didn't say "ME DOES MORE DAMAGE HURR DURR", I specified the dps. Paddymew 16:55, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * 56/(.48+.75) != 56 dps. 24.197.253.243 17:08, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Indeed, more like 45.5. Which is still interesting in that it's better than an Ele with 16 Fire Magic, which is ~39. | 72 User_Seventy_two_Truly_Random.jpg {U|T|C} 18:45, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Skill icon
Am i the only one that's seeing a burning flying skull in this pic? —Zerpha The Improver 02:51, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Let's have a look.




 * Sorry, I do not see it. -  Vanguard [[Image:User-VanguardAvatar.PNG]] 16:59, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I see it, somewhat. its more looking downwards from my angle, but I see it. I think its just coincidence there. [[Image:User-Wandering Traveler Sig.png]] Wandering Traveler 18:18, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I talked to someone about this before, it's completely unintentional. One can easily make an accidental illusion if you only have so many pixels to work with. 76.235.135.238 23:02, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Huh, imagine that. I never noticed the skull in there >_> NeonCrusader 21:57, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * *cough Pareidolia cough* -- Salome  [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]] 15:43, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I see Jesus in that fireball. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Misery (talk). 15:45, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I see Fire in that fireball Lilondra  [[Image:User_Lilondra_Eviscerate.jpg|19x19px]] *gale*  16:38, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I've seen fire and I've seen rain. Once, at the same time. --Belker 05:30, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Still not seeing it. Vili [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 05:47, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * []--Acerbity 12:52, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Won uw in HA with 6 people taking flare, uploading screenie tomorrow 62.140.137.125 22:19, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * not hard if you never used flare =P. Also I don't see a skull.. more like an ugly face. Roflmaomgz 04:30, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Uber skill
This is the most uber skill anet ever attempted to fail on. Needs a big rework.... Somebody mentioned Mending? 212.235.206.224 13:43, 6 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Flare, same damage: Your target is blinded for 0...1...1 seconds. I mean.. its a Flare. Also, lol fragility 82.72.119.180 11:18, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Flare does not need a rework. -~=Ϛρѧякγ User Sparky, the Tainted guided sig.png (τѧιк)  13:24, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Agreed, it's just the cheap, spammable, low individual damage spell all of elementalist's magic schools have. Let it be that way --Lhoj 15:05, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Give me a good reason why it should not.  Koda  [[Image:User_Koda_Kumi_UT.jpeg‎|19px]]  Kumi  17:40, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Hero skill trainers
Flare is listed as being available from the four Hero Skill Trainers in GWEN: Gedrel of Ascalon, Kodan, Tyr the Skaald, Lexx. If you look at any of these individuals, they do not appear to offer Flare. I checked with one of my characters that does not yet have Flare and Gedrel does not offer it that character. Adeira Tasharo