Talk:Dragon Festival 2007

Mission 1 has 9 hours difference between the American and European announcements while the American uses GMT-7 and the European GMT so there really should be only 7 hours difference as with all other missions. (It has been corrected now) --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Etienne.

I think it would be easier if the time would be written in GMT instead of PDT. Everyone knows to convert from GMT to their time zone, know they first have to convert to gmt and then to their local timezone. So i suggest either put pdt(gmt) for each our or simply just gmt. --Phoenix 08:43, 6 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I think the GMT times should be in a separate table because the PDT table only has one day per row. -- Gordon Ecker 09:04, 6 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I've added a separate table. -- Gordon Ecker 09:22, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Missions
What do you get for completing the missions? Are they the same mini missions as last year? - B e X   11:40, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
 * For completing these very hard missions you get 50 victory tokens.... Kind of lame since these are pretty tough.  I completed the first one and it took our team 2 hours.  50 victory tokens was very disappointing.--- White wasabi  [[Image:USER_White_Wasabi.jpg]] 18:49, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
 * They are the same missions as last year, where you got jade wind orbs instead, they were just as useless last year. :P -- Lemming64 19:40, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I'd think that you'd want to play the missions for fun and challenge, no? Alaris 20:22, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Mission 1
I edited the mission time as it was wrong, it should have been, 1900 not 2100 according to 82.153.115.33 12:22, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

GMT
Are they using real GMT or BST (British Summer Time)? For CEST (Central European Summer Time) should I do +1 or +2? ( Qanar | talk ) 12:35, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Change it to UTC instead. :P - B e X  [[Image:User BeXoR sig.gif|iawtc]] 12:36, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Start of the event
What is going on, they can't even tell us the correct time the event is going to start anymore??? I was looking forward to this event and already dissapointed because it doesn't last as long as last year and now they even lie about the starting time... Noon PDT is in 5 hours from now, but the event already started. Can't they do anything right?!? 88.159.130.198 14:03, 6 July 2007 (UTC)Berry Hoodlum

Dynamic colour change
Question for someone who know how the server works. I'm trying to make a function returning gray if the event is past, lightcoral if it is active, or light blue if it is future.

I use the tag to get the current time, but when I reload a page containing this tag... value does not change.

I've tried to clean my cache but no more result. Does the wiki cache pages?? If yes, is there a way to force page to be recalculated at reload? Thanks -- M'vy | user |  talk | -- 16:23, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Would work? -  B e X  [[Image:User BeXoR sig.gif|iawtc]] 03:04, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I need a full timestamp, cause only time wil cause event to change colour everyday instead of once. Furthermore, I'm not sure that currenttime tag will update as well. -- M'vy | user |  talk | -- 07:30, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, I saw that IS updated indeed!! I've just taken a look on my sandbox and saw that the time stamp is update to 7/7/7 8:46 witch seems to be the correct UTC time. So it has been done when I've loaded that page. SO! I'm pretty sure that the wiki DOES store page for cache. Is there a way to dynamicly recalculate a page, or a fraction of page, at every load?? Or at a defined interval??
 * Thanks !! -- M'vy | user |  talk | -- 08:51, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I think they are doing a similar thing at gwiki and that you'll have to ?action=purge the page. - B e X  [[Image:User BeXoR sig.gif|iawtc]] 08:58, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, I've just saw this on metawiki. But times are hard for me since I need the template to be update when it has to be included...
 * May be I can try to call template by its full name... if possible. (I'll so be able to add action parameter.)
 * If you'd like, check on User:M'vy/event-color (may ben in debug state) -- M'vy | user |  talk | -- 10:55, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Did you manage to get this working? The page seemed to be updating with purge. I guess it would just be a matter of having someone around when each of the events finish to purge it. - B e X  [[Image:User BeXoR sig.gif|iawtc]] 00:42, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
 * No... it does not works... for some reason, I got the wrong color when adding it in preview page of the Dragon Festival... I think that wiki is definitly not made for dynamic page rendering... If you'd like to try ^^ -- M'vy | user |  talk | -- 09:57, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I doubt that I'd get anywhere near to the progress you made. :P It may be because a piece of software hasn't been installed on this wiki, but if it's just a problem with mediawiki then I don't think anyone could fix it. - B e X  [[Image:User BeXoR sig.gif|iawtc]] 10:08, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh I'll keep it up... but not now... when I will be more motivated ^^ lool... -- M'vy | user |  talk | -- 11:43, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Test time
Since test seems to be ok, I'll make it operationnal for Dragon Event, UTC time. -- M'vy | user |  talk | -- 12:36, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Test has run good for the prev 4 events times. I'm pretty sur now it will work good. And purge isn't necessary ^^ EnjoY!! May be we could copy it somewhere more appropirate than my user page. -- M'vy | user |  talk | -- 14:35, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Can i suggest you copy the one from gwiki or at least clean up the interface, it would make it a lot more readable from the client end, timestamps are very ugly to edit. The only difference is you cant specify the colours which would take a few seconds to implement. Xeon 15:24, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry but what is gwiki? Some link please?
 * If I understand what you mean, you'd prefer a version with only timestamps to edit, and no color choice?
 * This is a beta version. But it can be used to make more simple version I think. I'll soon try to get those timestamps off, the best would be something with day, month, year and hour parameters, but I need to work better on strings manipulation on wiki. -- M'vy | user |  talk | -- 15:58, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Have a look at the template i created to do this on the other wiki, you are allowed to copy the script in anyway, i released it into the public domain (at least my edits and so far it is only my edits), so feel free to take whatever from it. Simply i gave the editors the option to modify the template times and didnt bother with giving them access to the colours because they will always be this by default, putting in different colour options is very simple if it does need to be added though. Purging the server is the only way to update the page through the script, im looking for another option for this but so far i dont think it can be done without an added server extension. Xeon 16:12, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I've done a simplified template. See at User:M'vy/std-event-color with only timestamps. UTC updated. Next is timestamp remplacement. -- M'vy | user |  talk | -- 17:59, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Std-event-color is replaced by event-color with default parameter. Timestamp subtistution will follow. -- M'vy | user |  talk | -- 08:40, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

UTC
is UTC simillar to GMT? MarioDX
 * Similar, yes, but GMT can be confusing when DST is active. I think the easiest way is to search for UTC and see what time that is and compare with your time, it's hard to explain. - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 13:23, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
 * UTC does not vary, GMT changes when summer time is applied. -- M'vy | user |  talk | -- 13:35, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
 * GMT doesn't change, it stays the same. In the summer, the UK switches to BST (British Summer Time) and moves one hour ahead of GMT. UTC was supposed to supercede GMT but GMT is still commonly refered to. - Ibiris 18:20, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Start of Finale
Has anybody else have the problem when Emperor Kisu is done talking and giving out the mask, at the start of collecting the celestial charges the enemies score raises to a hundred really fast. It seems to me that there are a lot more Grasps in the district then the first Finale. Looks like they are not disappearing at the end but then respawn more the next time around. --Sktbrd341 19:18, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
 * When the grasps win in a district, they don't leave. The same thing happened last year, I'm not sure if it's a bug or intentional. -- Gordon Ecker 22:20, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
 * If when they win they stay in the district and there are so many of them after a while, in my opinion that puts a lot of stress on the servers. I am thinking its a bug of some sort that was never fixed from last year. --Sktbrd341 00:27, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * It seems kind of buggy, but it also seems odd that they'd fix the multiple emperors bug from last year, but not the extra grasps bug. -- Gordon Ecker 01:08, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Boardwalk Presents
I've had EXTREME lag from the event this weekend, as have most people I know. Beware that if you are suffering from lag as well that the presents which drop at the end are NOT assigned to you specifically and others will take them. I find that this is a major flaw which ANet should have fixed (I mean the winterfest prizes had people's names on them - why revert back?). So, if you are in the same situation I was in, stand far away from other people and you might be able to grab a couple that land on your character. Good luck! Foxysheri 03:47, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Time
There's something wrong with the times. :S - B e X   05:19, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The Emperor came at midnight even though the website says the last one starts at 10. :S - B e X  [[Image:User BeXoR sig.gif|iawtc]] 07:20, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Imo these should be removed now the festival is over, I don't think anyone is going to be interested in exactly what time the emperor came, a simple every 2 hours explanation would suffice. A similar for the missions. Any objections? -- Lemming64 16:03, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I would suggest some sort of text recording the times of the missions and that the finale was every two hours with the first occurring at 2:00 AM PDT/9:00 AM UTC and the last at 12:00 AM PDT/7:00AM UTC, just for reference next year, but I certainly agree that the tables can probably go from the article.
 * Perhaps the table code with the auto-coloring should be preserved in some sort of template for future holiday weekends? - Tanetris 16:55, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * They would be preserved in the history of the article. But it would be easy enough to make some kind of template, though I believe one exists by M'vy. -- Lemming64 19:17, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * You can request M'vy to move the template into the main namespace, because it's very helpful and neat, but the schedule tables should be removed (if they haven't already been, just going through my watchlist now). - B e X  [[Image:User BeXoR sig.gif|iawtc]] 02:13, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh! Thank you very much. May be we could just choose a good name? Because "event-color" is the name I referred it as my own project,
 * I'm not sure it is good enough for mainspace. And I'm not very familiar with the Wiki convention of naming. -- M'vy | user |  talk | -- 06:42, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * How about something like Template:Time auto cell color or something close? -- Lemming64 16:25, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I've made a topic on the talk page : please leave your suggest on it. Then we can vote for the most usefull name. User talk:M'vy/auto-event-color -- M'vy | user |  talk | -- 19:39, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * For info template has been moved as Template:Timeline color -- M'vy | user |  talk | -- 00:35, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

It's Baaaaaaaaack!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The fesitval will return for August 10th 2007 weekend....Chik En 19:39, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Should we have a separate page for the redux? -- Lemming [[Image:User Lemming64 sigicon.png]] 21:46, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't it be redundant? Considering that the Redux is exactly the same except for the when it took place. Keep it on the same page and include that it also took place on the August 10th 07 weekend.--Bane of Worlds 21:50, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * All the dates for the missions would have to be doubled up. but I guess that would be the only difference. -- Lemming [[Image:User Lemming64 sigicon.png]] 21:52, 3 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Depends. If it's an identical copy, with just times changed, some minor notes to this one is preferable. If it changes, a new one should be written.


 * Anyone eager to start new Dragon Festival pages should take a look at Dragon Festival 2006, one of the most desired pages on the wiki. (And 2007 is one of the most viewed). Backsword 12:38, 4 August 2007 (UTC)