Talk:Ancient armor

Hero armor
Should there still be gaps for Goren Olias, Norgu, Zenmai and General Morgahn, even though they are for a mysterious armor piece? If so, should they be named something like "Olias Mysterious armor" instead of "Olias Ancient armor"?--Zemmy 15:13, 24 April 2007 (EDT)
 * I think they should be named Mysterious, and maybe even have a separate page. They are not Ancient armor arfter all? - Anja [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|Anja Astor]] (talk)  16:45, 24 April 2007 (EDT)
 * Personally, I think it's more convenient to consider hero "mysterious" armor as "ancient" armor, as there is no overlap, and there is no mysterious PC armor type. This keeps down the number of pages, and keeps things easier to find and look at. They definitely should be named mysterious though, not ancient.~ Kailianna Firesoul 17:12, 24 April 2007 (EDT)
 * But for someone new to the wiki or this part of the wiki, it would be very odd to find the mysterious armor on the ancient page, don't you think? I would at least never think of lookoing for it here if I hadn't seen this page first. Their names don't connect in some way to tell you to look here for those armors.. That's why I'd rather have mysterious armor on a separate page, but hey, I'd rather have all hero armor on separate pages :P If more ppl agree with you, which I think they will, could we at least have a redirect here from Mysterious armor? - Anja [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|Anja Astor]] (talk)  00:53, 25 April 2007 (EDT)
 * I would prefer a separate page for it. - B e X  00:54, 25 April 2007 (EDT)
 * I changed the links for now, since the armor isn't called Ancient for those heroes. It can just be copied over to the new page if we decide to split. - Anja [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|Anja Astor]] (talk)  09:54, 25 April 2007 (EDT)
 * Does anyone know when Shadow Nexus armor was renamed from Ancient to Mysterious? I'm guessing it was part of the mass armor renaming in the May 24th update. -- Gordon Ecker 22:14, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Wasn't it always called Mysterious..? - B e X  01:48, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Armour Art
Now I know that the like or dislike of this armour is down to personal opinion, but I feel it must be said, am I the only person who thinks the Ancient sets were rushed during development? Many of the set arts look like mildly reskinned versions of other sets, most notably the Ranger set, now that looks as if it was just pulled straight from Prophecies, yes you have the obvious exceptions which are clearly unique, such as the Dervish and Paragon sets, but whatever way it is shown to me, they just look rushed. Now I understand ArenaNet are a busy company and I know they can not please every one of their players, but all of my guild mates that I have asked have agreed, Ancient armour looks rushed, some even reskinned versions of older art, so answer me this oh community of GWW, Ancient Armour...Reskinned and rushed or beautiful and unique? Kinslayer / Talk 16:40, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I personally think the Ancient armor isn't even looking close to a reskin in all cases except the male ranger one. I use warrior, monk, and paragon Ancient and love them all, and I think they look unique. - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 19:17, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree with Anja. Most of them look unique. I've seen much worse reskins than that. Like almost all armors for all professions in EotN. - [[Image:User-Helena-sig.png|talk]] helena  06:31, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Valid points, but still, in contrast to other armour sets such as Primeval, hell, even Elite Sunspear and Elonian sets, I still reckon that the thought put into Ancient is nowhere near the sort of designs created for other sets, the only exception being GW:EN sets, but that's beside the point. [[Image:User Kinslayer icon.png|15px| ]] Kinslayer / Talk 15:58, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 * What sets apart from the Ranger male one are less unique than Primeval sets? Just curious, since I don't agree with you :) - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 13:10, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * yeah, i also clicked through all the ranger armor sets now and don't see any similarities in the model between Ranger Ancient armor and a prophecies armor set. (The only think i could think out is the Mask, as it looks similar to the Primeval mask.) Yet i have to agree with Anja (just compare Leather Long Coat with the Ancient Vest, that is reskinned!). In general - apart from similarities between standard and elite armors - all armor sets use another model, except for EotN armors (excluding Norn armor and Common armor). &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 13:34, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Well I suppose, I must admit there are differences there, but what I mainly was questioning was the fact that these armour sets seem rushed to me, when I look at armour sets like Primeval and others, I see an armour set that looks like a lot of careful planning was put into it, but when I look at Ancient armour, I see armour that looks rushed and without heart, perhaps it's just my own mind messing with me, but I don't see the dedication and effort in this armour that I see in other prestige sets, I suppose when it came down to it and I finally wanted to get one or two of my characters a Prestige set, I felt a little disappointed seeing these sets which happen to be somewhat expensive and somewhat difficult to get, in comparison to other prestige sets which look simply visually stunning, I suppose this is me just venting my own level of disappointment, I'll leave this well enough alone now. [[Image:User Kinslayer icon.png|15px| ]] Kinslayer / Talk 00:41, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm wondering if it's even worth it to do the armor upgrade. Are the stats better? Or is it only cosmetic? This article should answer that.

OMG ele, sin and ranger. r ftw with this armor.

@the unsigned two lines up, they're "prestigious"; that's the only point other than aesthetics. Also, since many people are under the impression that these were rushed in development stages, I'd like to contend that these are one of the few concept-based armors in the game, versus the abstract designs put into most others. Though these many not satisfy the typical owner of an Obsidian set, they appear to me to be based upon the garb of actual desert-dwelling cultures. For example, the Monk's body is wrapped tightly in cloth and riveted in place, both Dervish sets have larger hoods than found in other sets and the Ritualists are wrapped nearly head to foot, albeit they also seem to have just been mummified; for the most part, these would function against desert simooms and the constant sun exposure, just as would be necessary to live in any real desert. These thought processes are what I have come to love most about them, but most of this is just my speculation and opinion. :) Sec Qr Euin 06:38, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

dervish ra?
says on trivia that the dervish hood looks like the head of ra - i kinda think it DOESNT any1 else think so? if it was ra it would more golden and more hawk like permission to remove? Getefix 12:17, 10 October 2010 (UTC)