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The latest update's discussion page
This is more a question than a way to point fingers, but...At the update discussion, there are some heated statements made toward Arena Net (and especially Isaiah) that are often found, say, in the GW forums (and those pages are in more ways than one becoming almost "mini forums" anyway), but here they're crossing past NPA. Things like "Those bitches don't know how to skillbalance", "Izzy is worthless at skill balance" and so on are offensive, but then again they're just expressing their frustration with the update, and I would guess many of those anonym users don't plan to contribute any further, at least not right now. Does anyone think it's worth following these with the usual procedures here (tagging each IP, and then having a sysop considering a warning, a block or whatever), or would it be better to just let it go?

(I got scared when I noticed the page became empty when I clicked on "edit". My first thought was, "zomg, what did I break now?!" : D) Erasculio 11:25, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I skimmed through the page, but couldn't find anything exceptional. (Nothing I would really call a personal attack, more just general whining). If you do find something, please point it out, I may certainly have missed it. I don't think any page on wiki should be treated differently just because it gets alot of edits or are on a sensitive topic, so warn/point out if you find comments violating NPA. A heated debate is not justifying personal attacks :) - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 12:55, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Auron. Not sure if it's considered a personal attack but just pointing it out.-- §  Eloc   §  20:48, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I have left a couple of warnings and requests on users pages who resulted to insulting Izzy rather than discussing the update itself. -- Lemming [[Image:User Lemming64 sigicon.png]] 21:03, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

News
Multiple IP vandalism. Needs action, possible temp prot. Backsword 23:09, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Agreed.--[[Image:User Gummy Joe Sig Icon.PNG]]Gummy Joe 23:10, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I have placed a semi protect on it, this allows registered users to still edit, as all the vandalism is coming from IP's -- Lemming [[Image:User Lemming64 sigicon.png]] 23:12, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

One of the vandals previously signed a post as User:Riven -- Lemming 23:16, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * It's highly likely to be an open proxy. Riven said he was using such back when. It's unlikely there is more than one person behind this. Backsword 23:21, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * You are probably right. -- Lemming [[Image:User Lemming64 sigicon.png]] 23:41, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Purely an observation here, but a bout of open-proxy vandalism followed the last time J.Kougar was banned. Obviously there is no proof, but I thought I would point out the coincidence. -- Lemming [[Image:User Lemming64 sigicon.png]] 23:59, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Purely coincidental I assure you. J. takes credit for what he does, even that one time he did vandalize Gaile Gray's page, he took credit for that and I know he would take credit for any other such things if he were to do them, but I honestly don't believe that he would ever do that again.  He has just invested too much time into this Wiki now to want to throw it away, he's just stubborn is all. ;)  Now I just have to hope that he isn't watching the recent changes page like I was or I'll be hearing about sticking my nose into things again. XD  [[Image:UserSabastian sig.gif|User:Sabastian]]  Sabastian  00:24, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I highly doubt that it would be J.Kougar as J and Riven don't even seem to know each other.-- §  Eloc   §  00:55, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * ROFL! You should run for sysop! Oh wait, you have... --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:72.46.130.27.

Also, , ,
 * All single edit gold advertising spam IPs. --Aspectacle 03:29, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Blocked. -- Gordon Ecker 03:32, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Also Gold advertising bot things. Edits are easy to spot each edit is 160 chars long and they seem to come in spurts. --Aspectacle 04:11, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * All blocked. [[Image:User Aiiane-a.gif|Go to Aiiane's Talk page]] (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 04:15, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Vandal bot. - Auron 04:51, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Blocked. -- Gordon Ecker 04:59, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Random garbage bot --Aspectacle 06:20, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * P.S. has been blocked before. --Aspectacle 06:22, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Blocked. -- Gordon Ecker 07:03, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

~ Kurd  09:40, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Blocked. -- Gordon Ecker 10:00, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

One more nonsense bot. Erasculio 11:56, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * blocked -- Lemming [[Image:User Lemming64 sigicon.png]] 13:14, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

~ Kurd  14:08, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Blocked - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 14:26, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps a little CR might help
Gaile, thought you might want to head over to this page, and perhaps spread a little community relations. Everyone wants to blame poor Izzy, and up till this point, I have never seen the F-bomb dropped so many times. I'm shocked the GW community can't act in a respectable manner.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Talk:Aggressive_Refrain Med Luvin 15:49, 15 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Read the section and you might notice there's a reason everyone is blaming Izzy. Sure maybe it's not his fault, but fact remains the job is not getting done. Who's idea was to only have one skill balancer in the first place? We have an art team, a quest team, so why not Skill balance team. Antiarchangel 17:43, 15 October 2007 (UTC)


 * It might be his fault be that does not give people the right to throw around the language and insults they are doing on the public official wiki. I was very annoyed by this nerf but did not react like some have. However I think this is something that the wiki admins, not Gaile, should be dealing with and warning or banning where appropriate. Actions like this do not endear us, the GW community, to the very people we are trying to communicate with, i.e. Izzy, Gaile and their collegues, and probably does more harm than good. Ajax Baby Eater 18:47, 15 October 2007 (UTC)


 * HAI I BE ANET FANBOI! U MUST NOT BLAEM IZZY CUZ HE BE AWESUM AND ALL DAT! Yeah. Not really. -- Mini Me 19:28, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Wiki policy violations are a wiki admin task, not something that Gaile is responsible. Moved to admin noticeboard so that an admin can view the discussion and do what's deemed necessary. -- (gem / talk) 19:48, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * The whole thing reminds me of the builds talk pages on Guild Wiki, the whole section needs to be purged, and not used anymore. Izzy probably doesn't even look at it anymore as it is just a giant flame fest. Though that probably isn't a viable solution. To be honest I stay clear of that area generally unless someone brings something specific to my attention. -- Lemming [[Image:User Lemming64 sigicon.png]] 22:56, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Simply move it OUT of Talk space and into the Mainspace, therefore main policies apply and not talk policiees. Which means that they could be kept a lot cleaner and flame free...a LOT easier! -- ChronicinabilitY [[Image:User Chronicinability Spiteful_Spirit.jpg|18px]] 04:34, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * First of all, the rules for talk pages are the same as the rules for user talk pages, with some slight changes to archiving permissions. If you're suggesting to move it into the main article space, that utterly defeats the point of talk pages in the first place: discussion can't be documented, that's why it's not in the main article space.
 * Secondly, Izzy does look at it (just take a look at the history) - perhaps not as much as people want, or comprehensively each section, but he does read it. [[Image:User Aiiane-a.gif|Go to Aiiane's Talk page]] (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 04:41, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Think that this is how you do this...vandalized User talk: Simath, some form of NPA Killer Revan 23:48, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * That page has been reverted by Simath, however This same user created User:68.226.60.233 and seems to be on a vandalism spree of some sortKiller Revan 00:20, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

just a dumb guildy messing around, he'll wear the sugar off soon :p &mdash; Skuld 00:21, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Performing a bunch of rather entertaining vandalism edits to a pages. :D --Aspectacle 00:32, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Blocked. -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png|sig]] 00:35, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Multiple vandalism... --Fighterdoken 02:47, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Blocked. [[Image:User Aiiane-a.gif|Go to Aiiane's Talk page]] (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 02:50, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Random garbage bot --Aspectacle 05:02, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Blocked. -- Gordon Ecker 06:30, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Vandal. Backsword 10:40, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
 * blocked -- Lemming [[Image:User Lemming64 sigicon.png]] 11:02, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

-- §  Eloc   §  00:22, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * already blocked ;) -- Lemming [[Image:User Lemming64 sigicon.png]] 00:24, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

bot ~ Kurd  09:39, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Blocked by Gordon. [[Image:User Aiiane-a.gif|Go to Aiiane's Talk page]] (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 09:48, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Yep. -- Gordon Ecker 09:52, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * An affirmation of my acknowledgment of your administrative action against an artificial author? (<3 alliteration) [[Image:User Aiiane-a.gif|Go to Aiiane's Talk page]] (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 10:35, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Lol. Ale_Jrb  ( talk ) 10:50, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

A bot? A vandal? A half-bot, half-vandal hybrid? --Xeeron 11:13, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I'd guess just a vandal, but we'll see if there's more edits from that user. - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 13:16, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

-- §  Eloc   §  16:09, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

~ Kurd  16:10, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * CoRrRan has blocked both the last ones. - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 18:57, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

- Auron 00:23, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Blocked -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png|sig]] 00:45, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

- Auron 10:14, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Blocked. -- [[Image:User Corrran sig.png|CoRrRan]] (CoRrRan / talk) 10:16, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism of Miniature - elviondale  (tahlk) 20:16, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * And hero (title).  Calor  - talk 20:20, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * And vandalizing after being warned. --Valshia 20:23, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Blocked -- Lemming [[Image:User Lemming64 sigicon.png]] 22:28, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

-- §  Eloc   §  06:19, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Moving "Killroy Stonekin"
The skill has been renamed to "Kilroy Stonekin" which already exists as a redirect to Kilroy Stonekin. -Smurf 19:40, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Done - [[Image:UserDrago-sig.gif]]  Drago  19:48, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I moved stuff around a bit to keep the history of the original page. -- [[Image:User Corrran sig.png|CoRrRan]] (CoRrRan / talk) 20:07, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Repeated defacement as documented on his/her talkpage. --BlueNovember 22:45, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
 * One of those people from Dragon Killaz, they seem to not be on the best of terms with Gem or the wiki.-- §  Eloc   §  22:53, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism of Skill, Death Magic, Main Page talk, and creating a page of pure vandalism, About.  Calor  - talk 01:57, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I think it's safe to add and  as the same user... i will stop the reverts for a bit, seems contraproducent right now.--Fighterdoken 02:00, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Aye, I thought the same when looking over RC, probably open server on the vandal's end..just ban them as they come. Nothing more you can do.  Calor  - talk 02:42, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Replacing pages with fanfiction.--Fighterdoken 02:38, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Blocked. -- Gordon Ecker 08:06, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Gibberish bot.--Fighterdoken 07:33, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Blocked. -- Gordon Ecker 08:06, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Gibberish bot.--Fighterdoken 07:33, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Blocked. -- Gordon Ecker 08:06, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Vandalizing few pages and warned on talk page.-- §  Eloc   §  10:02, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Seems to have stopped after the warning. -- Gordon Ecker 10:04, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I guess not, blocked. -- Gordon Ecker 10:08, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * lulz. - Auron 10:10, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Ouch, he hurt my feelings XD.-- §  Eloc   §  10:16, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Not sure anything needs to be done. It is a rather immature response to my note on User talk:BlueNovember. But it's not like it's much harm. Thought I'd note it here anyways. Backsword 20:31, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

spambot, 3 month ban last time, he's back for more. - Auron 00:03, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * perma banned -- Lemming [[Image:User Lemming64 sigicon.png]] 02:27, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Gibberish bot... --Fighterdoken 06:03, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Blocked - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 07:24, 22 October 2007 (UTC)