Talk:Entourage

Test Krewe is fucking retarded bad at figuring out how to fix GW. Iffy 96.231.229.22704:12, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * For the x to the nth time, Test Krewe does not make the changes. They only test them for bugs. Sometimes. [[Image:User_Felix_Omni_Signature.png]]elix Omni 04:29, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Still a shitty fix. Now you have to kill the archers while solo ganking. Which is retarded. Tbarr 05:15, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Guild battles. We are currently working with the Test Krewe on major possible changes to GvG. -- Ups. So you mean them not doing their job and saying it's a terrible fix is not their fault. That's pretty fucking retarded Felix.
 * IP, it would seem that what Felix said is right, judging by the link you posted. Ideas for fixing GW are developed, then the Test Krewe sees how they work. It also seems that you're more than aware of the NPA rules, so I'll assume you don't need the link. G R E E N E R  06:31, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Why is not being able to solo a Guild Battle retarded? The point of GvG is supposed to be to fight another guild, not to farm NPCs. ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 07:59, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * ^ Tyraelxy 08:21, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * So you're pretty much saying splits for Lord Damage should never exist? Or clearing the pit is useless because they're NPCs? By your logic, just have 8v8 + Guild Lord. 18:04, 21 July 2010 (UTC) Arguing on the internet is retarded.
 * "Lord damage" is just a half-assed replacement for VoD - the reason that splits existed to begin with. &mdash;  Raine Valen  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]] 20:17, 21 Jul 2010 (UTC)
 * This update is still garbage. Knights are now more useful then the bodyguard. Splitting is almost useless you're just gonna run in and gank a knight or archer. Might as well remove bodyguard imo. All it does is heal the guild lord. The logical fix for GvG would have been to actually fix Oath of Protection. Anet is breaking whats already broken.Tbarr 21:31, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Why is it bad that knights are more powerful than bodyguards? Splitting is not supposed to be "lol we wiped their entire base in 20 seconds!" You have made no indication that these changes are bad, you are just listing things that are different, which, as it turns out, is the point of making changes ;) ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 01:41, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * "you are just listing things that are different, which, as it turns out, is the point of making changes ;)"
 * "you are just listing things that are different, which, as it turns out, is the point of making changes ;)"


 * Grrr, Shard now everybody knows. User A F K When Needed Signature Icon.jpg A F K  When  Needed 15:54, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
 * They should have changed Oath of Protection to "guild lord takes 15 less damage and no more then 60 per attack or spell." and placed entourage into play as well. Would make the npcs in pit important and still keeping the bodyguard important. As it stands now the bodyguard is almost useless.
 * forgot to sign Tbarr 22:56, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Why should they have made those changes? ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 19:47, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

What is GvG like now?
Is it good or bad overall since this update? Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә    ѕνәи  Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 23:31, 24 July 2010 (UTC) Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә    ѕνәи  Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 23:06, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I ran a team of 9 wammos and owned everyone Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә  [[File:User Aliceandsven 2.png]]  ѕνәи  Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 08:14, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * And which game where you playing? Reaper of Scythes ** User Reaper of ScythesJuggernaut1.png 09:03, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I find it pretty lame now that I not only have to kill knights and bodyguard but an archer to solo the guild lord. It's pretty retarded I think. Tbarr 19:20, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Why is that retarded? ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 19:47, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * "soloing in guild vs. guild"
 * GvG is now more about NPC's. It's like their trying to make VoD decisions without using VoD. The original point of splitting was to take out NPC's for VoD. Now its to take out the NPC's in the lord pit for lord damage. VoD was and is still the better format. Only problem with it was wards, spirits and shouts/chants effecting the npcs. They changed that way back and now wards effect npcs again. Now just to implement VoD again. They should keep the tiebreaker at 28 minutes like they do with "aggression" but make the NPC's still walk out and the trebuchets unusable at/past 18 minutes. This is all just my opinion but still its annoying how I have to take out 4 npcs for solo lord damage as opposed to 1-3 (counting knights and guard depending on if I have flagger/ranger/other warrior/whatever or how late the game is). Tbarr 14:45, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Again why is that retarded? The Emmisary 16:33, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * It's not. The only problem is that people will have to go back to dedicated splitting if they want to outplay their opponents through mobility, rather than run a stand setup that has one or two splittable characters to fill all the aggression requirements should a game be in danger of going to 28. Whether thats an actual problem, or simply an inconvenience for those spoilt by the simplicity of putting an MB on the lord 20 minutes in, I'll leave up to the community. That said, most of the game will play exactly as it had, all they effectively countered was ease with which solo characters could push lord damage. After all, in a proper lord push spiking out the NPC's in quick succession is usually fairly easy work. And it's good to see Archer NPC's finally mean something other than being pin down turrets. Monks will probably hate the added micro of keeping two more npcs alive though. 130.89.170.181 11:54, 30 July 2010 (UTC)