Talk:Warrior

People have edited the other profession articles to follow the caption-free formatting. Smurf: I see that the only way, as far as I know, to keep the caption is to turn the image into a thumbnail. Again, I don't see why you would need a caption to state what such an obvious image is, but then again, all types of people come to the wiki. Also, I tried the previewed the image displaying on the article at full size, which makes it extra-pretty, though may be painful for smaller monitors (I have a 1280x1024). What do you guys think about image size, as well as thumbnail/caption status? Eldin 08:52, 7 April 2007 (EDT)
 * Caption is different from alt text. Mouse over the image and it should say what Smurf readded. If the size needs to be changed to 200px that's easy enough. Someone will complain if they don't like it anyway. :P - B e X o R  09:12, 7 April 2007 (EDT)
 * Very well then. FYI it's not 200px, it's 310px. :P Though most people these days have a resolution of 1024x768 or higher... I sort of visualized in my head (and by in my head I mean in MS paint) how the article would look with the image at full size on a 1024x768 monitor, and it's not that bad, it sort of makes the article sort of cozy, like a blog, with the image aligned on the right and the text like a little blurb on the side. Still, I don't have time to decide what those 640x480 monitor people want. [[Image:esig2.jpg]] Eldin 09:22, 7 April 2007 (EDT)
 * It's 250px. - B e X o R  11:49, 7 April 2007 (EDT)
 * I meant the full image size. Oh dear! A great war shall ensue over the fate of the images... [[Image:esig2.jpg]] Eldin 21:00, 7 April 2007 (EDT)

I changed the warrior article a bit. I added links, like to lists of sword, axe, and hammer skills. I also mentioned about a warrior in pvp, and some things like that. Feel free to chop it up if it's bad. Morrock 17:43, 15 April 2007 (EDT)

As I've been looking through the Professions pages, I've noticed that a lot of people like to switch between capitalizing the profession of a character and leaving the profession title uncapitalized in subsequent mentionings. I couldn't find any mention of a standard for profession naming in the formatting guides, though I may have just not dug deep enough to find it being mentioned; is there any standard that people have been following while writing these articles? I, for one, have been changing all lowercased instances to capitalized (i.e. "warrior" changes to "Warrior"). Besides the last syntax/grammar edit I made, I've left most of the lowercase instances alone until I get some confirmation on what we should be doing. Henry of Navarre 14:49, 23 April 2007 (EDT)
 * Normal English capitalization is preferred. There is no need to follow in-game capitalization where it does not make sense. As a general rule capitalize only proper nouns (a noun decribing a unique entity, such as a name or a city). GWW:GENFORM - B e X  22:13, 23 April 2007 (EDT)

I wish someone would change the picture to platemail or something (68.47.4.209 17:18, 24 April 2007 (EDT))

To move or not to move
I am trying to gess whether or not to take the sections on what weapons do and move it to the guide. The guide is a more sensible place for it being a GUIDE and all. But I am only one man, and as such have only one perspective. Care to add yours? Done25 19:43, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


 * It won't hurt to leave it there; no rules forbid duplication of information. Backsword 19:48, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I'd say shorten what is here into sort of an explanation on the role of warriors, and then moving the bulk of the details into the guide article. -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png|sig]] 00:58, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Weapon Choice
Hi, I am just wondering if their is any advantage to using one of the warrior weapons over the others. If not, which do u guys personally prefer and why? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Sgt Pepperz.
 * Each weapon has it's own advatage. Swords inflicted crippled, bleeding, and deep wounds easily and have a narrow damage range. Axes have a wider damage range (and thus benefit more from critical hits) and have a broader choice of adrenal skills to use. Hammers can knockdown, but require two hands (thus not allowing the extra protection of a shield). In the end it's mostly down to preference. I'm a sword man myself. - [[Image:User HeWhoIsPale sig.PNG]] HeWhoIsPale 16:59, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * It's not only down to preference. It's also dependent what build you use and what role your play. -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png|sig]] 01:59, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I myself prefer the Axe. Although it has a wild, wider damage range. This is why I use Axe:, Cyclone Axe, Penetrating Blow or " Chop. All of them,except Cyclone Axe, it just cost adrenaline and the Penetrating skills have the 20% armor penetration, so I can put skills that cost energy without draining my energy bar so much. Like Ab.er.rant said, depends what role you will play.--ShadowFog 18:24, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

My personal favorite weapon is the axe for the warrior,it does the best damage, i also mainly like it cause i got an amazing max damage axe for free!! ZZZnoble (~:

W/E
the first entry...^.^ —Zerpha The Improver 16:33, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Neat, except GuildWars isn't an MMORPG. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  貢  04:44, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 * yeah, Anet calls it a "CORPG" afaik. "Cooperative online role-playing game"...hmmm, quite big-headed giving this an seemingly official abbreviation, considering that it's maybe the only CORPG so far. :P —Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 13:52, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I thought there was some mention that they're not referring it as CORPG anymore.... or maybe I just recalled something incorrectly. -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png| ]] 00:56, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I prefer to call it a SMORPG, ie selectively multiplayer online RPG. The PvE part of it reminds me more of single-player games like BG or NWN (the OC) than any MMO out there. -- Hong 01:01, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
 * SMORPG sounds like lool Kanijah 12:10, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I know it's a bit late, but Guild Wars has very little in common with Baldur's Gate, other than the superficial medieval/fantasy RPG elements. The superb story and tactical team-based combat is what made BG 1&2 classics.--SlitherSly 05:14, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * It is too an MMORPG. it's massive, it's multiplayer (you can't play offline), and it's a role playing game. if anything, this game is harder to play by yourself than most other games I have played, in D2 I can play the whole game and do every single thing in it by myself, not so in guild wars, there are some missions and even some quests that force you to play with others. I don't care what A-net WANTS to call it... Roflmaomgz 21:03, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Warrior hate?
I've heard alot of peeple talk trash about the warrior, so I have to ask, what do the warrior people say to this? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:TGWG (talk).
 * Stop listening to bad players b.r // talk  03:28, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * You'll find people talking trash about just about every class out there. -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png| ]] 02:19, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * true. People seam to complain allot about the professions. I personally find warriors to be a valuable asset to my team.--Yozuk 04:35, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Warriors suck, IW mesmers are better in every way. 99.144.162.16 15:23, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Surprise Surprise... an illusion attribute mesmer has some warrior hate... anyone could put up counters to a build... and there is a counter to the counter... so lets just end this to say there are some skills specifically made to be anti melee... and some that the melee's can completly ignore as they knock you down and walk away 192.203.160.241 17:14, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey mr 99.144.162.16, how many mesmer tankers have you seen?:O Anyways, did you see any mesmers in pve?
 * Wow there, don't go abusing mesmers; their mass degen and echoes make them great in PvE. Although I agree Warriors are great in the right hands, the reason they are hated is because there are too many, and too many ussually means there are a lot of people who cannot run the build properly.--86.146.2.8 20:18, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Rend Enchantments - now you suck.  Firoas. [[Image:User_firoas_decap_sig.png|19px|talk]] 19:27, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Warriors are ftw. Swordsmanship is duh man, man! Kalizar,  Lord   of War
 * Swordsmanship is the worst unless you're talking about PvE. And yes, warriors are quite useful to the team. -~=Sparky  User Sparky, the Tainted charr sig.PNG  (talk)  03:02, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
 * That's only because of H00ndred Blaedz. Vili &#x70B9; [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 03:14, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I just hate Warriors that rushes too much without taking care of the aggro and other players. There are many like this. However I also know warriors that do a good job. Including tank. Agaetis Ros 13:47, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Clean up attribute descriptions
Seems to me that tactics is not the only attribute with shouts and stances... the commenting is misleading... perhaps a cleanup to help describe the general traits of each weapon (EG Hammer cant use a sheild but is the greatest damage, slower swing... etc etc) and that tactics is a focused anti-melee attribute for yourself and your teammates. Comments? 192.203.160.241 13:53, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The attribute descriptions usually mirror what's in the manuals. More detailed descriptions are better off in their respective attribute and weapon pages. -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png| ]] 14:28, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thats fair enough. Tho I would guess this is the description as it was from first release... with everything thru to GWEN they have morphed for all professions... 192.203.160.241 20:42, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Dance
Anybody else thinks that this is one of the best dances in MMO history?--Bazooka56--
 * Best dance is the Paragon Collector's Edition dance. Not an opinion, that's a fact. Aldarik 20:42, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nope, that honour goes to the male monk, sorry. They obviously have the best dance.
 * May I direct you to Female Necromancer. How can you argue with Thriller?  ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 00:23, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks like you don't have a male ritualist. I always pick up girls in real life with that dance >:D --84.0.212.215 17:29, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
 * How could you not like the female sin dance. or the female monk dance. flips are awesome. Roflmaomgz 17:04, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

I must say my favorite is male monk, but female dervish is so....twirly.... its interesting to watch--^^ The Wind Sage 02:34, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Warrior dance is pretty funny one of my favorites wonder how they came up with that dance, ZZZnoble (~= 2 March 2010--222.152.163.124 07:55, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

go behind people and start doing the first part of the warrior dance. Major Pwnage!!!

Class Description
I remember in the Manual it states the Warrior role as a Tank. But this isnt true anymore right?--Knighthonor 08:11, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure it is. They have high armor and defensive skills, if you're inclined to use them. [[Image:User_Felix_Omni_Signature.png]]elix Omni 08:13, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Just look at Urgoz or the Deep, a sin tank usually gets torn up there. Sonic Sunday User Da Sonic Sig2.png 03:15, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Warriors as a tank?! When there are Dervishes and Mesmers?! *Rolls Eyes*. Warriors were intended to be a tank, but because they have less energy that the other "Superior" melee classes, they arent allowed to do anything anymore. Arenanet, please listen to me. WARRIORS NEED A REVAMP!
 * Warriors are pretty good in PvP but unfortunately most warriors aren't useful in PvE - they "Leeroy", over aggro or pull the enemy into the squishies (low armor bunch). If you're going to get a "Leeroy" you might as well kick the warrior and bring a Minion Master for 10 or so expendable "Leeroys". Doesn't help that Hard Mode monsters often ignore the tank and rush for the squishies - there is no Taunting in GW1 (you need stuff like "None Shall Pass!" or "Coward!" to stop them). So giving HM mobs 10 minions to smash often works better. FWIW, most sins are worse - they charge/"shadow step" into a large mob and promptly explode. A dervish on the other hand 3 hits by default, so spam Splinter Weapon on the dervish and watch mobs vaporize before they kill the dervish or head for the squishies. There are good PvE warriors, but most people aren't good. And even when the warrior does everything right, if the noob sin rushes in, over aggros and flees back with a horde, it's often wipe-time :) 60.50.240.215 14:18, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

WTB Buff?
Anyone else notice that Warriors have only 2 large roles in PvE? Raptor Farming & FoWSC ManlySpike. (and now FoWSC is being replaced by mes spike or something similar). This is just retarded. I want my Warrior to be not only usable, but amazing. And a better tank then an friggin sin. [I still love my sin] ||   Dark  Mugen  16:53, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Try an Earth Shaker-Renewing Smash knocklocker with an Infuriating Heat interrupt hero. 88.153.105.75 17:11, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

The Dervish update removed warriors from FoWSC (See Vow of Strength). The assassin updates have removed warrior from raptor farming. Arenanet, why have you forsaken this class? Oh right, you're too busy making the mesmers in gw2.