User talk:The Great Tomato

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That userbox of yours
So funny, seeing you describe X as a pinapple ^^. &mdash;Ebany Salmonderiel  20:45, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * When he wears his yellow 15k Luxon - hes a pineapple! I first noticed it during a alliance meeting, i was sat there and it just occured to me that he looked like one - and now its common knowledge amongst the leaders/officers :) --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|The Great Tomato]] The Great Tomato 20:49, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Guild Cleanup tags
Hey. I noticed that you marked a couple of Guilds in our alliance with the Guild Cleanup Tag: Guild:Gathering Of Friends and Guild:Just Friends. I am not contesting it, I just wonder what is the best course of action. The two guilds are not really present on the Wiki (yet), however their Guild pages are requested by virtue of being included in our Alliance Nav Menu. This prompted someone to make dummy pages, which I then just added the Guild tag to. The problem here is that if the pages are removed, they will again show up on the most wanted lists, risking to start over. To me the best would be to just leave them be for now. --Lensor ( talk ) 12:57, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I understand where your coming from, I would just like to see some more information on their pages (it doesnt have to be anything major tho). Maybe as you are in the same alliance as them you could have a little word with one of their officers/leader about having someone to do the wiki and fill in the information --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|The Great Tomato]] The Great Tomato 14:27, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I will try to scare up some response from the alliance (I dont know enough to fill the pages with data myself). If worst come to worst, just delete the pages and they can be recreated at a later date.--Lensor ( talk ) 14:44, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Hey, I was wondering if you could remove the cleanup tag from the Guild:Divine Clan, I updated it a bit, should be fine now [I dun want to remove it myself because its my guild] -Jair
 * Yes thanks thats fine now --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|The Great Tomato]] The Great Tomato 19:48, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

I made Southern Cross Soldiers guild page. I do not see the point to a PvX Category - it means that those looking for a guild that does PvP has to search in 2 sections, and the same for PvE. Please direct me to the right page to discuss this. ~aeronox
 * I would raise this discussion here Guild Wars Wiki talk:Formatting/Guilds --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|The Great Tomato]] The Great Tomato 15:23, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Help
Tomato my wonderfull fruity friend, could you have a look at my userpage and the alliance page too m8, I need u so see if the codes need sorting out ect. or if you could leave a note on where I went wrong and I'll sort it out m8. Your help as always is greatly appretiated, yours ever loving .... Me .... .TomoTheMighty 07:44, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Meanieheads page
I noticed from my watchlist that you moved the guildname/page from "Meanieheads" to "Meanie Heads" due to the 2 word guildname rule. I am sorry for misstyping the title. "The" was the forgotten word in the creation of this title. I have rectified the page and moved it to "The Meanieheads" location, and put your re-created page up for deletion with an explanation there. Your assumption of "Meanie Heads" was rather fast. It would've been appreciative and nice if you posted a message on my talk page or even the guild talk page to let my rectify it myself and be aware of it. In any event I do want to thank you for making me aware of my naming oops, even if it was in a somewhat suprising way. - Clantron 17:35, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that yes - after looking at the Userpage where it was listed as 'MeanieHeads' i took it to be Meanie Heads. And moved it to there. Sorry for any inconvience caused --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|The Great Tomato]] The Great Tomato 19:10, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Wasn't much inconvenience, just a bit suprising. Nevertheless it was an error on my part and I'm happy it's all fixed now in the end :) Clantron 20:08, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

CIV page
Mate ive had play with the CIV page and added to the discussion there have a look. DL Diagoro Leonine 01:10, 04 December 07 (UTC)

Moved our guild but missed the cape!
Hello. Thanks for moving our guild page so that it works from in-game ^^. However, when you did move the page, the cape image didn't come along.(I added the cape with a small 'o' in "of", and now it's asking for a big 'O'). Do you think that after it wasn't linked to anything, it was already flagged for deletion and deleted already? If you can find it and move the cape image to our new address, please do so. Thanks. btw, the guild is Servants Of Fortuna. Jinx of Fortuna 05:40, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Oops sorry about that, but I have now readded it to the article --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|The Great Tomato]] The Great Tomato 09:44, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * It's working perfectly now, thanks for all your help! Appreciate it :) Jinx of Fortuna 12:23, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Rock
I have yer rock now, altought it's in other guilds hall (TFGO) ^^ -Kemal
 * Evil! And LIES! The true TIGO rock is safely stored in my bank --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|The Great Tomato]] The Great Tomato 21:24, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Yer
Ahoy der shipmate --YARYAR the pirate 23:21, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Errrr.... hi? --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|The Great Tomato]] The Great Tomato 21:24, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Is that you, sandwich? 83.104.37.31 09:02, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Lol I don't think its Sandwich somehow --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|The Great Tomato]] The Great Tomato 14:30, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Inactive guild
Is there a special reason you are replacing the guild tag when you place inactive guild tags? Personally, I think the guild template still applies, and should stay, so I thought I would ask :) - anja   23:31, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
 * It helps cateogrise the page, as well as identify it is a player guild, so I agree -- Brains12  • Talk  • 23:33, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
 * My interpretation of the template was that it should replace the guild one (where it says 'restore the old template') but I can leave it from now on if needed. --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|The Great Tomato]] The Great Tomato 23:35, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, I never read it fully, actually. Then do what you think is best :) - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 23:37, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Are u
a sysop? --Shadowphoenix 22:21, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * nope --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|The Great Tomato]] The Great Tomato 08:30, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 * k --Shadowphoenix [[Image:User-Shadowphoenix Shadow Phoenix Signet.jpg|19px]] 14:12, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Special:Listadmins/sysop --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|15px| ]] Brains12 \ Talk 14:48, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

I like the saying on your userpage! -- ·•· Cr yp to  ·•· 13:40, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Lol, thanks - it was told to me by one of my friends and I thought I would nick it xD --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|The Great Tomato]] The Great Tomato 13:45, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Nice work!
Looks like you were the author of the 15,000th article on the Guild Wars Wiki, so congratulations! Thanks for all your contributions. :) -- Gaile 19:15, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Lol, thanks - cake all around! --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|The Great Tomato]] The Great Tomato 19:52, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Errrr... cake without tomatoes, right? ;) -- Gaile [[Image:User gaile_2.png| ]] 07:05, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Well done, Tomato! -- Brains12 \ Talk 12:06, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I bet it'll be tomato cakes. -- [[Image:User Corrran sig.png|CoRrRan]] (CoRrRan / talk) 13:38, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I think i'll pass on those... rolo cake perhaps! And just because i'm called Tomato doesn't mean I love tomatoes ;) --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|The Great Tomato]] The Great Tomato 14:23, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I think a jam cake would be best... --Ollson Gabire 22:38, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Chocolate with raspberry jam? Sorry, Tomato, we seem to have taken this entirely OT. Still 'n' all, there are few subjects as important as cake. ;) -- Gaile [[Image:User gaile_2.png| ]] 05:24, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Jam is at least as important as cake... But yes, i like Gaile's suggestion... Yum! I think me may have moved away from the point though - well done old chap!--Ollson Gabire 21:24, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I like jam and chocolate too! So i think that we should go with Gaile's suggestion... and deciding what cake we are having is a very valid consideration... maybe we need to make several cakes and try each one until we find the perfect one? --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|The Great Tomato]] The Great Tomato 21:58, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I baked a French Vanilla cake this week, all in the interests of research, of course. ;) Added my chocolate butter cream frosting, which I do think is pretty tasty, if I say so myself. Anyway, it seems the FVC is very good, but I'm not sure it surpasses the Traditional White Cake. Perhaps a side-by-side comparison is in order. :) -- Gaile [[Image:User gaile_2.png| ]] 04:02, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I hasten to add -- I completely neglected the possibilities of jam with this recent baking effort. Yes, I am ashamed. *sigh* -- Gaile [[Image:User gaile_2.png| ]] 04:03, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Avoid the cake, its just a lie anyway. - elviondale  (tahlk) 21:49, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
 * =O, but i like cake, jam and chocolate - not too mention I look forward to receiving a slice of the french vanilla cake in the post to try from Gaile! --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|The Great Tomato]] The Great Tomato 01:02, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I decided to cut out the middle man, and I sent the cake via my router. :) -- Gaile [[Image:User gaile_2.png| ]] 22:39, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
 * yay, I got Gaile herself to talk about jam! This is going in the history books... (I have a jam thing btw)--Ollson Gabire 12:33, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, OG, it's truly a day in Guild Wars Wiki history! Jam Discussion FTW. But Cake Discussion, even more FTW. -- Gaile [[Image:User gaile_2.png| ]] 22:39, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Guild Page Move
TGT, you moved a guild page that I had made recently because I hadn't used the capitalization as seen in game (Sorry, didn't even think about that when I started making the page. Thanks for the catch.) However, our cape picture seems to have evaporated during the move. I wasn't sure whether it was removed or just somehow left behind when you moved it. I'm still very new to doing much wiki-ing beyond commenting on talk pages, so can you help me with what I need to do to get it back in place. (or do I just need to upload again?) Thanks Thefount 20:37, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorted... :) --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|The Great Tomato]] The Great Tomato 22:03, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks Thefount 14:29, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Love and Rolos
I could be wrong, but in my mind someone has to have saved the world 1337 times (no more, no less) before I give them my last Rolo. Maybe Buffy Summers or Superman or someone...I'll have to get counting. -- Marin  Bloodbane  10:37, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * =O --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|The Great Tomato]] The Great Tomato 10:55, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
It's glad to know someone doesn't always resolve the problems by deleting things when it comes to someone making a mistake. Thanks again. Jammy the Killer 12:34, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

ifexists
seems to work. Implemented it in the Sandbox atm, and testing it on 2 pages and it doesn't appear on Wantedpages. poke | talk 13:48, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Aha, thanks - I have been looking for an alternative to the one we have currently for a couple of reasons (which I will write up about once I've finished here =P) --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|The Great Tomato]] The Great Tomato 13:55, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The include is probably a reason for it ;) It is really irritating.. poke | talk 13:57, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Although if you try it with a guild that does exist... ;) --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|The Great Tomato]] The Great Tomato 13:58, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
 * /sigh maybe its just mine... yours seems to work find in your sandbox xD --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|The Great Tomato]] The Great Tomato 14:00, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
 * hm? ^^ poke | talk 14:02, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Well as you may have gathered the ifexists sandbox bit is here: User:The_Great_Tomato/Sandbox/ifexists
 * Then I'm using this template in here: User:The Great Tomato/Sandbox/Alliance nav3
 * And then is have values put in here: User:The Great Tomato/Sandbox/Alliance nav/Test --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|The Great Tomato]] The Great Tomato 14:07, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
 * oh, I implemented the ifexists with a "Guild:" in front of the title, remove it, and it will work ;) poke | talk 14:11, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
 * ^_^ Cake all around! Thanks man... i'm quite ashamed at how long that took me to even get to that stage xD --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|The Great Tomato]] The Great Tomato 14:13, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
 * hehe :D Ok, now I'm waiting for the reason list :P poke | talk 14:13, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Okay... User:The Great Tomato/Sandbox/Alliance nav/Test this is the current alliance navigation box that we use, and if you edit the page and look at the templates used on the page you will see that apparently it is using Guild and Guild Infobox to name just two... And personally I cant see a Guild template or any guild infoboxes, on that page or the alliance navigation code (Template:Alliance nav). The alliance navigation does not feature any templates being used at all apart from the ifexists template. So I looked at the Template:ifexists template and that as you probably know looks at the full contents of the page to see if it matches the other one etc... The second one using #ifexist: User:The_Great_Tomato/Sandbox/Alliance_nav2/Test works in that it doesn't add those templates to pages that don't directly have them on but however does add pages to the wanted list... and thats not what we want again. So this last one User:The Great Tomato/Sandbox/Alliance nav3/Test does not add pages to the wanted list and nor does it add the templates used on other guild pages that are in the same alliance navigation box. Hope that all makes sense i'm not great at explaining my thoughts in writing xD -- The Great Tomato 16:20, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
 * What I wonder is, why you are doing all this examples etc., instead of just implementing it.. :P poke | talk 18:42, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Would it not have to be modified to make it work in all namespaces, unless you think that it would be fine to create a new ifexists template for guild pages (just to be used in the alliance navigation template)... but anyway I dont really have much time this week, so a project for the weekend maybe =) --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|The Great Tomato]] The Great Tomato 20:03, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Does the code I posted above (without Guild:) does not work for all pages? poke | talk 20:32, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok well you were right xD... and I have implemented it... If you disagree with this for any reason feel free to comment and revert if necessary! --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|The Great Tomato]] The Great Tomato 23:13, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying
Thanks for your edit earlier on my guild page. I hadn't realized that Category:English guilds referred to guilds of players form the UK, rather than those guilds an English-speaking player could communicate with. It's a good thing I didn't list it as a Spanish guild and an Italian guild too, eh? >_< I wouldn't want anyone to think our guild is crazy, thinking they can exist simultaneously on both sides of the world. :P My apologies to those true English guilds, I had no intention of trespassing on their category. lmao --Vorith 21:55, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Lol, no problem (coming from a true Englishman himself xD) --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|Tomato]] Tomato 23:17, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

How do I get an elem that looks like that?
The Subject is kinda self explanatory, but how do I get an elem male that looks like that? Or is it possible anymore? I can't seem to find the combo and all my tries end up looking... creepy... - Sharako 20:02, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Erm, looks like what? --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|Tomato]] Tomato 20:37, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Like the male elem from the armor section of this site --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Sharako (talk).
 * Okay, well after quickly looking - um I cant find the exact combination either the hair seems to be from either factions of nightfall, but neither have the same hair colour or the face which strikes me as being very Tyrian. So yeah i guess that you cant =o --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|Tomato]] Tomato 09:32, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

"Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit."
So i was reading The Quran yesterday. And i came across the same quote ;). Only a slightly different version: Knowledge is understanding that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad. ~ Kurd  19:46, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Lol, nice :D poke | talk 22:56, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I also found a quote for you Poke: Those who Know they do not Know that to Know is to Know what they do not Know!. Now i just have to understand it myself 0.0 ~ Kurd [[Image:User Kurd sig.png]] 00:36, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thats Al Sina BTW ~ Kurd [[Image:User Kurd sig.png]] 00:42, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * *nod and smile at the quote for Poke* and I had no idea where the quote came from to be honest I just nicked it off a friend who said it to me xD --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|Tomato]] Tomato 08:04, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

If you have an issue with policy....
...then you should get involved in the discussions going on regarding it. Leaving random, combative edit summaries isn't going to get much changed; getting involved and helping to reach a consensus decision everyone can work with is a like more likely to be productive. Just a suggestion. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 00:42, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No i'm gonna go to sleep, i'm too tired to think rationally at the moment, but I'll leave my thoughts tomorrow when my mind is clearer and I am not in such a foul mood. --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|Tomato]] Tomato 00:49, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure thing, no rush, and policy debates are.... interesting enough as it is without everyone being in foul moods. :D [[Image:User Aiiane-a.gif|Go to Aiiane's Talk page]] (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 00:54, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
For spending some time on my guild page to fix the navbars, greatly appreciated. Saved us from being deleted =) -- (Tribina  / talk) 13:14, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem =) --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|Tomato]] Tomato 13:50, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Guild Page Naming
Ok... let's have this discussion here.... rather than on the policy proposal talk page. If you re-read the section of the guild formatting guideline that you cited for your current set up, it is NOT talking about alliance pages, which we have not allowed, but rather large guilds that have multiple divisions, ie PVP, PVE, Farming, etc. See User_talk:Fighterdoken for another opinion on Alliance pages, and you will see what I'm talking about.-- Wynthyst 10:47, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My mistake Tomato I apologize.--[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wynthyst 10:50, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem, now lets get back to the matter in hand shall we? =P --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|Tomato]] Tomato 10:53, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Very clever btw.... and yes, I guess in this VERY RARE instance, I would have to say your modification of the nav bar would be acceptable :P--[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wynthyst 10:54, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks its nice to clarify and think about the extreme cases at times =P, and the guild infobox that I use on the subpages i have left a comment on Template talk:Guild infobox to see whether it would be allowed to add a name parameter so that we can use the proper one. =) (And the previous discussion where I talked about sub-pages for our alliance Guild Wars Wiki talk:Formatting/Guilds/Archive 1. --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|Tomato]] Tomato 11:00, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL, I'm NOT a total nazi, regardless of common perception, and you can see where my mistake came from, since you can't have 11 guilds in an alliance :P I just really want to see some things changed in the Guild namespace.  I think it has been ignored far too long as being 'trivial'. I am more than open to ANY suggestions for changes to the policy proposal, that will meet with concensus.  The issues I REALLY want to see addressed however have not even been touched on in the discussion, it got soooo derailed by the formatting issue.--[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wynthyst 11:11, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Just thought I'd note, since it doesn't seem to really be a controversial issue I added the name parameter to the guild infobox. [[Image:User Aiiane-a.gif|Go to Aiiane's Talk page]] (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 22:19, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Guild page tagging
Heya, just thought I'd let you know, we have kind of agreed that any content beyond the guild name is CONTENT. There is some disagreement what constitutes useful. -- Wynthyst 10:22, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah okay, i'll just keep looking for those ones then =P --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|Tomato]] Tomato 10:23, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I've gotten through the first page of G, and I think someone else started from Z and got through X, so pick a letter :D --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wynthyst 10:27, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Well i've just finished A, now i'm on B... its nice to go through the alphabet in order lol =P --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|Tomato]] Tomato 10:33, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * B done... (well I'm only searching for guilds which are in Category:All guilds so unless they have made the effort to put themselves into other categories) --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|Tomato]] Tomato 10:32, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, All Guilds is what I've been working off of too, so like I said, pick a letter between H and W :D--[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wynthyst 10:43, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm just about to do F lol, and more specifically I'm using a dpl request to actually filter out pages that are not tagged with guild cleanup or delete all ready and that is the only category they feature in:


 * Just change the titlematch= % to select the letter you are working on =P --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|Tomato]] Tomato 10:48, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL I just go to Category:All guilds and use the alpha bar.. then I can just jump back to All guilds from whatever page I'm on... to each their own :D (edit) of course I can't get the link to work now :P--[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wynthyst 10:51, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay thats A, B, C, D, E, F, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W, X, Y, and Z done =) --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|Tomato]] Tomato 14:07, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

New guild tag
Did you notice I tagged your pages? There may be an issue cropping up here. I would love your input.-- Wynthyst 14:01, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I did and although I must admit that if we were to have any of our pages listed in the category it would be the actual guild names (the redirects) rather than the subpages just as I have put the redirects into categories so if someone clicks on them they are still redirected to the main alliance page. I agree that all the alliance pages should have the notable guild tag, but perhaps without the auto categorisation, so that we do not list the subpages in the category but only the main one instead (and perhaps also the redirects with just the category added). --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|Tomato]] Tomato 14:15, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh and actually we are only referred to as being 'The Imperial Guards [TIG]' in the article even though we usually call ourselves 'The Imperial Guards Alliance [TIG]' ;) --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|Tomato]] Tomato 14:20, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, you can feel free to retag them however you want, but the auto cat is built into the tag which is why the actual pages got it and not the redirects.--[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wynthyst 14:30, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * You could restructure your pages to make each actual page the page without the subpages :P Or just include the actual page in the subpage.--[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wynthyst 14:32, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * (Edit conflict) Nah, I don't think they should both be listed on there, I would keep it as one or the other (or neither and just the main one), I mean 11 links to the same page and then 10 to subpages is perhaps a bit excessive in one category ;) Although the guilds one is my exception to that lol, as they are real guilds and should be documented as that. Which also makes me think that its better to have them recognised as subpages of the alliance to show that they are linked. --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|Tomato]] Tomato 14:39, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Would that not go against the large guilds rule? GWW:GUILDS or are you saying something else I don't really get what you mean =P --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|Tomato]] Tomato 14:39, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The large guild thing you keep mentioning isn't really applicable, because you ARE actually 11 separate guilds (ok, so 10 plus the dummy alliance guild). That is dealing with large guilds that have multiple divisions, ie, Farming, PvP, Pve, etc. and let me see if I can work up an example of what I mean in a sandbox :P --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wynthyst 14:43, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Ok.. if you did it like... User:Wynthyst/Sandbox/guild1/subpage the tag is actually on the guild page, not the subpage. So you would still get 10 (or in your case 11) entries in the category, but they would not be redirects, OR subpages. I don't see how else to be fair in cases where ANet has chosen alliance for GotW.-- Wynthyst 14:50, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * We could just go the way [Lazy] went, and use the template only for the main alliance page in this case. Or maybe using something along the lines of your tag (since they are subpages anyways, and we don't care about them :P). Or maybe not add the "notable" paramenter in the template, but add the category manually.
 * Oh, and by the way, i could have swear that this was still a "large guild"-like guild. Multiple divisions of a large guild don't really need to have a defined role, they could be divided just for the sake of having some minor organization.--Fighterdoken 21:27, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

I guess I may just read it differently than others, but since each guild is entitled to their own page here, and with the redirects they really ARE getting them anyway, I didn't see why the large guild rule would apply. Since ANet has recognized at least these two Alliances as GotW, I have to assume they will do it again, and while these particular alliances are unlikely to split up, it is a possibility. If that were to happen, would the guild that left lose their 'Notable' status because they were no longer in the alliance, even though they were mentioned by ANet? That's what I mean about being fair, and is something I think should be addressed right now at the beginning of the new tagging system.-- Wynthyst 22:08, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Would it lose it? If the guild is not specifically mentioned, then i would say yes. If the alliance received the notable status because of the things they did as an alliance, it makes sense that no-longer member of the alliance don't get such status. Now, if the no-longer member of the alliance received also mention on the article about the alliance, that is a different thing.
 * But, back on topic, in this particular case i would just leave it to teh Tomato (or whoever manages the alliance's page) to decide. The article on Anet appears to deal about the Alliance itself, but it DOES mention several of the component guilds also.--Fighterdoken 22:24, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Happy Birthday to you!
-- Silverleaf   19:29, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * lol, thanks but for me my birthday isn't for another 3 hours - its still the 25th here =P --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|Tomato]] Tomato 20:19, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Happy 3 hours earlier birthday. Just curious, Is this the day when you was pl;anted, or the day you bloomed? :P --M age [[image:user MageMontu sig.png| ]]M ontu 20:23, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Played a trick but was reversed :). Just didn't want to forget your birthday :). Happy early plantd...birthday :). -- Silverleaf  [[Image:User Silverleaf sig.png|User_talk:Silverleaf]] 00:01, 26 June 2008 (GMT)
 * Happy birthday now? Halogod35 [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|15px]] 06:43, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * xD thats better! and thanks =) --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|Tomato]] Tomato 16:25, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Happy Birthday Tomato :) -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 16:27, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Happy Birthday! Be careful so that you not become ketchup :) poke | talk 16:37, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Happy birthday! :) - [[Image:User Why Are We Fighting BlackRose.jpg|Talk]]Why <font color="#808080">? 17:05, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Happy Birthday! -- [[Image:User indochine dsk tree.png|15px]] Indochine  talk 17:37, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Happy Birthday!!!!! _.:-+-:._Cyan Light 17:45, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Happy Belated Birthday! I'm such a putz sometimes :D --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wynthyst 08:19, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
 * =P thanks! --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|Tomato]] Tomato 08:21, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Happy Belated Birthday! Hope I'm not too late =) --[[Image:User_Tribina_base.png]] (Trib<font color="#800000">ina  / talk) 08:45, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't know you, but Happy Birthday! —<font color="404040" face="century">Utopian <font color="B7c7d6">♫  08:49, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Issue with your alliance space....
Ok, now I need to ask you to please rename your guild pages to the names of the guilds as they appear in game rather than as subpages of the alliance. It is becoming an issue with Guild:The Venerable Alliance who I believe is a friend of yours and has set up his alliance the same way you have, but without the dummy front guild in game. It's just a matter of renaming the guild pages, and correcting the links in your navigation bars. It's really difficult for me to say to Tomo ... you need to change your page structure, when he has simply copied you, and you aren't being asked to change yours. Technically your structure does not conform with Guild page naming policy the way it is. (The large guild clause of the formatting guideline applies to large guilds, not alliances) -- Wyn 00:29, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, Tomo? He's now back in TIG - I think the Venerable Alliance has disbanded... but I'm not certain of that fact (or did he leave TIG again... so hard to keep track of some people xD). Anyway, sure thing I'll do it when I get home from school as I don't really have the time right now to do it as in 15 minutes I have to catch my bus --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|Tomato]] Tomato 06:43, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks Tomato :D --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 09:00, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Ummm... creating redirects is not what I had in mind...... you need to actually rename (move) the individual pages to their correct name and then correct your nav bar.--[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 16:02, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yep, I was gonna move (over a redirect) them over there and then delete the old pages - but then I encountered the problem of move limiting so I will now be moving them over manually --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|Tomato]] Tomato 16:03, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I can delete the redirects so you can just move if you wish. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 16:05, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Please, I think it would be easier - Guild:The Imperial Guards Elite, Guild:The Imperial Guards Of Ascalon, Guild:The Imperial Guards Gladius, Guild:The Imperial Guards Of Cavalon, Guild:The Imperial Guards Of Istan, Guild:The Imperial Guards Of Torment, Guild:The Imperial Guards Of Vabbi, and Guild:The Imperial Guards Of Kryta are the ones that still need removing. And then afterwards i'll mark the old pages for deletion as I do them. --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|Tomato]] Tomato 16:07, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, redirects are all deleted. :D --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 16:28, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks =), oh and in your opinion is it okay to keep Guild:The Imperial Guards Alliance as the main page? --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|Tomato]] Tomato 16:30, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * As long as it is actually a guild that is found in the game, it's fine. Thank you very much for doing this. I know it might seem overly picky/trivial, but it is now in total compliance with the guild page policy.--[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 16:45, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I can see why you have done it and it didn't really make a huge impact on the pages content, so I was more than happy to comply. I think i'm going to reformat the pages anyway in the near future when I have more time and less coursework =/ --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|Tomato]] Tomato 16:48, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

PvE/PvP/PvX Category links on Guild pages
Hi Tomato,

I noticed that you edited my guild's wiki page (Heroic Dragons), because of a seemingly redundance to how I listed my guild (both PvE and PvP). Although I can understand that, so to prevent guilds that do both PvE and PvP to be listed in both PvE and PvP categories or even in the PvP category too, as to not clutter up the category lists. I did not find anywhere on the guild formatting pages, nor on your pages (including all talk pages linked to those pages), that it's not allowed to categorise a guild in multiple categories. I can understand that it should be kept to a minimum, due to the occurence of cluttering, but to list a guild as PvE/PvP, because the guild focuses on PvE, but doing some PvP as well I see no reason to disallow that. Same goes for PvP guilds doing some PvE besides their main in-game playstyle. When listed in the PvX category, a guild can also be found by people who are not necessarily looking for a strict PvE or strict PvP guild. When listing a PvE-based guild as PvX, people looking for a PvE guild won't be able to find it (and therefor having to search through 2 categories, of which the PvX category is impossible to see if a guild is PvE-based unless every single guild page there is checked individually). The reverse goes for people looking for a guild for PvX. They won't be looking through the PvE and PvP category to find a guild to suit their needs, since it will be way too much work to do that and even when done thoroughly, lots of suitable guilds will probably be missed by the person looking through the pages. By restricting the use of only 1 category, you are highly diminishing the effectivity of the guild page here on the wiki, since lots of players are looking through the wiki and have less chance to stumble upon the appropriate guilds. I humbly request a rule upon this situation to be added to the guild formatting page or otherwise a redirect to where the corresponding rule is already listed (especially since I was unable to find any place where a discussion regarding this has been started so far). As a last thing I like to add that experience in-game has learned me that when proliferating a guild as either PvE OR PvP OR PvX has been a reason for lots of people to grow discontent with guilds, since they were (for instance) PvX players, which concentrated upon PvP, but found their way to a PvE/PvX guild and were angry upon the lack of PvP-focus inside the guild, merely because the wiki has stated the guild as PvX instead of PvX(PvE-based). Maybe a suggestion for the PvX category to be split into a "PvX(PvE)" and a "PvX(PvP)" category? Kind regards, Juriaan Cuthalion 23:30, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

help me
I was kicked out of the guild cos you- or someone ease- deamed me inactve. but I was not I had lost my intnet thingy meaning that I could't paly. if you let me back in I will pay you 1 k .pz I am beging you.

Your Guildpages
Hi, to prevent a RevertWar I would like to ask you why you readded the notable tag on the GuildPages (TIGT, TIGE, TIGI, etc) ? They are not listed as notable on the GuildWars Website and as such not allowed to have the notable Guildpage Tag. -- Silent Storm   23:17, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
 * The entire alliance was chosen as guild of the week, and as such each page gets a notable tag. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 23:20, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!
Enjoy ^^ <font color="Black">| <font color="Cyan">Cyan <font color="Black">Light <font color="Cyan"> Live! | 06:44, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Happy Birthday! -- Kivah [[Image:User_Kivah_sig.png|Talk]] 07:55, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Happy Birthday Tomato. -- Alex [[Image:User_AlexEternal_Mr_Bear.jpg|19px]]Eternal 11:23, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It just hit midnight here in Australia, so it is now officially your Birthday here! Happy Birthday!

 <font color="Black">-- § <font color="Red">Lacky <font color="Black">§   Talk 14:05, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Happy Birthday You Great Tomato. :P --Polish King2 23:31, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Happy Birthday! :] poke | talk 11:01, 27 June 2009 (UTC)