Talk:Gaile Gray/Archive 2007-2008

Annoying ads
In Shjing Lea whenever i map travel there i immediately get advertisements for gold that i can buy online. Cant you do anything about that?

Easy solution: put any character who does onto your ignore list. Their account and characters can't send you any messages. I've only come across 2 or 3 people who do this so far.

Hero Suggestion
IGN : Omigawa Of Darkness Gaile, has there been any talk at all of allowing heroes to use PvE-Only skills? If not, is there anything the community can do to push this on the stack of to-do? The best thing about Guild Wars, outside of the immensely skill-based PvP, is the fact that you can play with heroes. Sorry to say, but there are a lot of stupid people in parties out there. Heroes are only as good as the person controlling them. It's somewhat unfair that to get the advantage of PvE only skills, we need to find someone competent enough to use them. Heroes get PvE title bonuses (lightbringer, deldrimor rank, etc), why do they not get the ability to use those skills as well?

Gaile, if all this requires to come to action is a good argument, please let me know and I will write up an essay. The only problem in PvE right now (after your wonderous addition of titles, dungeons, and green weaponss) is the seemingly strict limit on hero skills. PvE only skills are powerful, that's why they're PvE-only. Because of our hero's lack of access to these, it not only shows that heroes are somewhat pointless, but it also shows a lack of customization in terms of creating fun team builds ; and that's perhaps the defining factor of guild wars. I hope that you see and read this, and look forward to a reply. -Omigawa
 * I completely disagree. The ENTIRE POINT behind PvE skills was to give all professions equal access to HUMAN GROUPS. Of course this didn't happen in its entirety but at least nowadays, it is very much possible for a mesmer spamming CoF or a paragon with TntF to find a PuG.


 * Please don't bring up argument "Well they let us do this...so they should let us do this..." All that does is make Anet reconsider ever letting us use heroes in the first place because then they will thinking "If we give them an inch, they will take a mile."


 * And if anything else, I believe people making the effort to form an all human group should be given the advantage of PvE skills considering the difficulty required in finding people nowadays compared to the lazy man's solution of using computers.


 * IMO, we should be pushing more for 7 hero parties and leave the PvE skill advantage to player groups.70.122.49.136 20:19, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Chat logs
Could we start to document the chat logs from her in-game occurances in the wiki? The earlier ones can be found from GWOnline atleast. --Gem (talk) 01:27, 13 February 2007 (PST)
 * I'd rather not. The logs are scattered over various forums and websites. Besides, listing the logs here may cause the impression that Gaile's words are official announcements, which they aren't. --Tetris L 07:01, 13 February 2007 (PST)
 * Not relly if we make a similiar page as the Game Upates on GWiki and add clear notice that these are not official. I really like the idea myself. --Gem (talk) 12:08, 13 February 2007 (PST)
 * I do like this idea, but we must make logs ourselves and cant copy the old ones from the fan forums Brodly  13:30, 22 February 2007 (EST)

Protect?
I think this is one of the pages that's going to need protection from vandalism.--Trevor Reznik 06:43, 13 February 2007 (PST)


 * I don't think Gaile's page has ever been vandalized on GuildWiki. I'm more concerned about Izzy's page. ;)
 * Seriously, fo far I don't see a reason to protect this page, nor the page of any other ANet employee, nor their user pages, nor the ArenaNet article itself. The RCPP (Recent Changes Police Patrol) will take care of vandals quickly. --Tetris L 07:01, 13 February 2007 (PST)
 * RCPP member since Jan. 11, 2006. Sad really, but dedicated ;) &mdash; Gares 07:14, 13 February 2007 (PST)
 * No protection needed unles we start to get too much vandalism. Never been vandalised on GWiki as far as I know. --Gem (talk) 12:08, 13 February 2007 (PST)
 * Where do I sign up for this RCPP? Do we get cool badges and stuff? -- Scourge  [[Image:Scourge.gif]] 08:28, 13 March 2007 (EDT)
 * Shucks, I thought for a minute it was Royal Canadian Party Patrol. :D --Gaile [[Image:User gaile_2.png| ]] 22:14, 30 March 2007 (EDT)
 * Hey! Canada pwns!-- §  Eloc   §  21:49, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Locations for Gaile Chats
"She is often seen in Kamadan International District 1, Lion's Arch International District 1 or Kaineng Center International District 1."

Should it be mentioned that she also goes to Shing Jea sometimes? More often than not I've seen her there rather than Kaineng. Nothing much seems to happen in Kaineng in my opinion anyway >.< Just a thought. --Blobulator 01:51, 16 March 2007 (EDT)

She now hangs out in Gunnar's Hold (Inter D1) ^_^ 68.151.27.108 05:02, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Picture?
Can anyone (perhaps herself) provide a photo of Gaile? BigBlue 08:00, 28 March 2007 (EDT)


 * There are some pictures of her in GW events, at the official site. I'm not too fond of adding a picture here without Gaile saying so, but I guess I'm just being conservative. Erasculio 08:53, 28 March 2007 (EDT)


 * You can find a picture of her here on GWiki, though Gaile might want to post a picture of her choosing here instead of a fan pic. Sorry Gaile, never paid much attention to staff articles, but on the bright side, we both are redheads. :D &mdash; Gares 10:12, 28 March 2007 (EDT)


 * Wow. There has GOT to be a more flattering image than that one somewhere =\ MisterPepe talk 12:48, 28 March 2007 (EDT)
 * Yeah dude, that photo is pretty gruesome, isn't it?  LOL --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:69.253.38.199.
 * Someone should have really asked Gaile if she wanted her picture up -- Scourge  [[Image:User Scourge Spade.gif]] 18:58, 28 March 2007 (EDT)
 * Nobody did, and I really didn't. (Especially that one... although there are several that are even worse. Some people just don't look good in photos. :) ) I removed the image. If that's against wiki etiquette, I claim personal privilege. --Gaile [[Image:User gaile_2.png| ]] 13:22, 30 March 2007 (EDT)

Bug?
discussion moved to Talk:April Fools' Day 2007 -- Primeval Sentinel    Talk  08:39, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Soul Reaping Nerf here to stay...
discussion moved to talk:Soul Reaping -- Lemming64 05:40, 25 April 2007 (EDT)

NPC
The note on the NPC named after her is vague - can someone link the NPC's page or mention the NPC's ingame name? ~ Kailianna Firesoul 01:58, 29 April 2007 (EDT)
 * Hmm, perhaps Sander the Gray, a collector in Anvil Rock? --BigBlue [[Image:Monk 20.png]] talk  10:41, 13 May 2007 (EDT)
 * Isn't it an NPC in Diablo2? - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]]  (contribs)  10:47, 13 May 2007 (EDT)
 * Yeah I think was a D2 NPC. Lord Raikage 22:37, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * It was an Act I Mercenary named Gaile. 137.112.136.224 13:31, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Shrine
Don't remove the smartie(tm) comment. It's factual. -  Drago 03:41, 12 May 2007 (EDT)

Cookie where due
I did a little experiment whit the age userbox, i added a auto category into it. It sort the user of the box by the average hours per day into Category:Users/Hours_per_day/ Category:Users hours per day . See Category:Users/Hours per day/11 Category:Users hours per day 11, I don't know yet how to make it browsable but it still interesting. --Bob 10:37, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Protection
Due to the recent vandalism of this article I move that it be protected. -- trekie9001 &bull; tlk  &bull; 03:39, 7 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree, this article doesn't really change that often and it is a prime target. --Indecision 03:40, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Third! At least a temp protect -- ChronicinabilitY [[Image:User Chronicinability Spiteful_Spirit.jpg|18px]] 03:41, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't know. Maybe it's better if the vandals hit this page instead of Gaile's user pages or the FrogTalk page, as more people read/use those. Sort of a honeypot.--Drekmonger 03:43, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * This is the easy one to find. they simply type Gaile Gray. If they get here and see its protected i doubt they will try to hard to find other pages as they would assume they would also be protected, but then i dont think like a vandal! -- ChronicinabilitY [[Image:User Chronicinability Spiteful_Spirit.jpg|18px]] 03:45, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I suspect the vandal in question is one guy and his sockpuppet-ish IPs, who has a reoccurring history of trying to "make a point" via vandalism. If he is denied the opportunity to mess up this page for 5 seconds at a time, he may target the more useful pages (which see too many edits to reasonably protect).  Of course, I'm an idiot so I might be wrong.--Drekmonger 03:47, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I personally don't think this page has reached the point of needing protection yet. The last vandalism before this was almost a month ago and in far less quantity. - B e X  [[Image:User BeXoR sig.gif|iawtc]] 05:24, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Have you looked at the history?! The last vandalism was yesterday. -- trekie9001  &bull; tlk  &bull; 17:15, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Agreed, this page needs protection, what else is there to add to the article? even if their is, you can request it here and a admin will add it ~ Kurd [[Image:User Kurd sig.png]] 17:34, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I disagree that this page needs protection. I looked through the history and could see nothing but a brief vandalism edit here and there, and maybe one big vandalism wave. If this gets into a repeated thing, I might change my mind. We've had more vandalism (meaing more waves of them) on other pages, and they are still not protected or requested to get protected. (I'll look for examples if needed) - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 17:58, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * @Trekie please reread my comment: The last vandalism before this. - B e X  [[Image:User BeXoR sig.gif|iawtc]] 05:10, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry Bex. My mistake. -- trekie9001  &bull; tlk  &bull; 07:07, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Np, just clarifying that you knew I did check the history properly. ;) - B e X  [[Image:User BeXoR sig.gif|iawtc]] 07:19, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

(Reset indent) We could at least semi-protect it so only registered editors can change the article. Can't we? -- trekie9001 &bull; tlk  &bull; 01:11, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Even if it were possible, that is going against what wikis are for - to be able to be contributed towards by anyone, registered or not. We have a great number of sysops around at almost all times of the day as well as other recent changes addicts, and while vandalism is never okay, we were able to revert and block the vandals quickly. Now if this article was vandalized more than one day a month, then I would probably argue for protection. :P - B e X  [[Image:User BeXoR sig.gif|iawtc]] 07:19, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Dupe items
Hi, if you will have a min please check out my reply to your post on GuildWarsGuru Thank you. Gcardinal 06:46, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * If you wish to discuss something with Gaile Gray, do so on her User Talk page. Also, she is aware of, and has commented on this matter. Killer Revan 17:00, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I am sure link is more then anyone need to check it out. No answer was given on many "hard" quastions I asked in my reply to Gaile Gray and the way ArenaNet avoid this topic and hides it on some 3rd part forums shows how much they want to cover up what hapend and don't want to go public with it. The fact that silence is on this topic now, that topics was closed in forms says it all. When I posted here I know that she will never reply but many people without own user pages will have something to say and will tell me what to do and how to do it. lol. Gcardinal 15:50, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Um...she responded on page 2 of that thread...and there has been some discussion on her user talk. either way, this is still not the place to contact her.  You should do that on her User talk page.  Her user page can be accessed by clicking her nameat the beginning of the section.  Killer Revan 20:51, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Eye of the North
discussion moved to User talk:Gaile Gray -- Primeval Sentinel    Talk  08:47, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Diablo and D2
Wait she played diablo 2 alot? i still play d2 ive played for ages.. thats cool - 69.248.175.25 17:09, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Just a little curiosity, what's the name of the NPC in Diablo II named after her? I used to play that game alot and can't remember any names that is similar to hers. --MageMontu 11:58, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
 * She's one of the Rogue Mercenaries in Act 1, just outside the Rogue Encampment. My friend used to keep rerolling until he got her with the right skill set because he thought it was amusing to be in party with me being accompanied by a merc named for me. Anyway, her name is -- wait for it -- Gaile. Someone actually thought I'd taken my name, as a handle, from the mercenary, rather than the mercenary being named for my (real) first name. :) -- Gaile [[Image:User gaile_2.png| ]] 20:03, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
 * How'd that come about? A nod from Blizzard for running some fan site or something...? -- 118.90.81.227 14:09, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Suggestions
Im sorry Gaile, i know this is probably not the right place for asking, but where would i go if i had suggestion for game features? Thanks in advance--Defx 03:45, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * User talk:Gaile Gray/Guild Wars suggestions or User talk:Gaile Gray/Guild Wars 2 suggestions. -- [[Image:User Gem sig.png|Gem]] (gem / talk) 05:11, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thaks Gem, should i delete this section now? --Defx 18:14, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Comments are not to be removed from talk pages, and if someone had the same question as you they can read this and get the answer sooner. :) - B e X  [[Image:User BeXoR sig.gif|iawtc]] 04:32, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Just a suggestion for new guild halls ^^
Ok so i think there should be guild halls for GW:EN! i think that sense GW:EN has such great areas it should have great guild halls to lol.So ummm if anybody thinks its a good idea ty for thinking that way lol also ty for reading this(if u did)

Ok another suggestion i know this has happened to some ppl....when u sell something to the merch and u didnt mean to...that rly sux when that happens so i think there should be a buy back thing and it lasts like 24 hours for whatever item you sold...


 * Those are good ideas but first of all, a few things.

You can press + on the top of this wiki page to start a new suggestion. You can leave a ~ ~ ~ ~(without the spaces) there so we know who sent this and stuff. Besides that, those are some good ideaz. TitanSacranus 01:07, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Post Pre Items In Pre
Gaile are you are aware that /bonus works in pre? That maybe the advantage, and since it does work until you fix it players cannn'ot be banned for something the team should now. Of Coarse thats IF you don't already now. 68.151.27.108 04:55, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * This has been known for quite some time, and as for /bonus items they are acquired legitimately. Although i cant seem to find the post by Gaile which explained all about this. Crazy 08:10, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Bear class
Hello. Could you make a bear class directely available as a selectable class on the character creation panel. That way I would not have to think about the things I want my character to be able to do, nor I would have to collect hundreds of skills to throw them away definitively when I goes for Mallyx and hear "LF 4 more ursans" everywhere. PS: it was just a joke, no need to answer or to get a spiked club to hit me. Yseron

PvXwiki
Hello

Can you please post this on the community news page? Even prizes are Guild Wars related... Gcardinal 14:37, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I would suggest you move this to Gaile's user talk page. - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 16:48, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Looks like this is his talk page?... Gcardinal 19:12, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
 * User talk:Gaile Gray ;). This page is just about her employment, while User:Gaile Gray is her actual user page. -- Brains12  • Talk  • 19:14, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, should have been more clear. :) - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 19:18, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

background
hey gaile i was wondering why cant we pick are background screen in login it would make alot of people happy

removed
Removed my original post ^_^, wrong place for it Kess 00:35, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

revert
No, I'm trying to add constructive stuff to this stub.--Loll 03:29, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * The stuff you are adding is emotive and for some part has required near stalker type devotion to the subject. I think a more trimmed article would be preferable for both neutrality and Gaile's privacy. --Aspectacle 03:31, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Too much information is on the brink of stalking. &mdash; Galil [[Image:User Galil sig.png|Talk page]] 03:32, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry I thougth wikis are supposed to be objective.--Loll 03:38, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * There's a difference between objectiveness and obsessiveness. Even doing a whois on an IP that is "registered" (not really btw, that IP is worldwide and not registered anywhere) and listing that on the page, stating what changes "she" did to wikipedia? That my dear friend, is called stalking.... &mdash; Galil [[Image:User Galil sig.png|Talk page]] 03:40, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * That IP is registred for the ArenaNet offices in Bellevue and Gaile has been seen posting from that IP.--Loll 03:41, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Not according to Ripe it isn't. &mdash; Galil [[Image:User Galil sig.png|Talk page]] 03:41, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Look at this: Posted by Gaile Gray ( 24.19.xxx.xxx ) at 2007-02-04 11:24:20

And a lovely bear it is, Ezari! She sits on my little display table, and everyone who walks by says, "That's the _perfect_ gift for you, Gaile. A frog, dressed in lavender, and a Disney-themed outfit, too!" I truly will treasure FanFrog forever, a wonderful memento of our time together! (from http://gwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Editorials.Detail&id=59). I had an other source too but I can't seem to find it at the moment.--Loll 03:49, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * So where did the last two octets come from? That page only shows the first two. &mdash; Galil [[Image:User Galil sig.png|Talk page]] 03:52, 12 February 2008 (UTC)


 * However, none of this is relevant to Guild Wars the game, and the purpose of this wiki is to document the game, not anything that could tangentially or indirectly be related to the game. -- Hong 03:55, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Galil, they came from the other source which I can't seem to find right now.--Loll 04:03, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Nevertheless, stating a user that could be her on wikipedia is highly unrelated and personal information and as such a breach of GWW:NPA stating that "Revealing or threatening to reveal personal information about another contributor" is considered an NPA breach. &mdash; Galil [[Image:User Galil sig.png|Talk page]] 04:06, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I just went through all the edits. Loll, seriously, where do you find this? If you know all this, then, umm...to be blunt, get out more. Find people. Do something. You shouldn't know all this stuff about her. Nobody should. Everybody has their right to privacy from somewhere in the Bill of Rights. Also, disclosing personal information a person wishes to keep to herself (which Gaile has specifically stated) violates NPA. So no matter how you look at it, locally or federally, what you're doing is forbidden, and the reverts are justified, so I ask you to stop and don't restart this form of editing so the admins aren't forced to take preventative or punitive action against you.  Calor  [[Image:User_Calor_Sig.png|19px|Talk]] 04:16, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

/report Question.
- Smashman2004 ∙ talk 08:43, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

The signing of comments
I don't know if this should be put in GWW:FORMAT, but how do u make ur nick look cool when u sign with the tildes? Ty. Ninjas In The Sky 19:54, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * There's a nice guide at Help:Signatures. Though don't feel bad; I asked for help the first time, and it took me 5 minutes to find this guide now, mainly by browsing a few talk pages until I finally ran across a link.  But that page has tips, then you can change yours and then play around with signing via the "Show Preview" button to see how it looks without having to spam anything.  I think I wasted about an hour on mine, despite it being pretty simple... Anyway, Good Luck. - T HARKUN  [[Image:User_Tharkun_sig.png|16px]] 08:21, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Severe Exploit
There is a SEVERE exploit that need urgent attention by the admins.

The exploit is:

If you use dark aura and shadow walk, then cast enchantments on yourself, the enchantment fails 'cause of the side effect of shadow walk. But the dark aura effect (aoe damage) still applies. Combine this with cultist fervor (so your spells costs nothing) and hit like crazy something like masochism and poisoned heart. Having a Mark of Protection on you saves you from death This is the outcome:

See here for ssshot:

5700 damage in 10 seconds.

Please fix it before it will be the only build played in gvg and ha.

This afternoon GANK held like 5 hours with it (and be ashamed of that, gank players). --213.140.6.120 19:58, 21 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Me thinks this is for Mr. Isiah's page. Ninjas In The Sky
 * i'm not sure it is a severe exploit ( because of the large number of enchantments needed to survive ), but indeed it can be powerfull, i just tryed it, for more than 4800 damages in 14 seconds, but i hardly could maintain it longer. --lussh 20:35, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Because doing 5000dmg in 14secs isn't overpowered? Lord of all tyria 21:21, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * That's what a BM-16 Symbiosis and 32 enchantments on every character is for! See, there's a counter to everything, so no worries. note: this post employs sarcasm.  - T HARKUN  [[Image:User_Tharkun_sig.png|16px]] 08:14, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Account Sharing with brothers
Hey gaile, this is just a quick question. A guy applied to join our guild and he shares his account with his brothers. my guild leader thinks it's against the Terms of Use (which says only 1 person can play on an account). I was just wondering if it's allowed to share with brothers or sisters? Elder 10:45, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Technically it is not allowed, but a LOT of players share their accounts with family members etc. You wont get banned for it or anything, but in case your brother/sister/friend deletes your character or changes your password or something like that you will not get any help from the support team. -- [[Image:User Gem sig.png|Gem]] (gem / talk) 16:23, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

New Job
Should the intro on this page be changed now because of Gaile has a new role with Anet? - FirstSunspear /// Talk 20:14, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes now that Phail Gray is gone all eveidence of her "reign" should be removed so we can finally be rid of her.

Balthazar
This could perhaps be the incorrect place for this question, but what determines a characters eligibility to map travel to the great temple of balthazar? All of my characters can except for my ranger, who is a level 20 and has completed a campaign. Anybody know what is going on with that? 66.189.179.115 09:21, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The_Battle_Isles Chriskang 09:30, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Rank Discrimination
I'd be willing to bet this has been brought up, and I doubt that this is the right place to bring it up anyways, but rank discrimination in HA sucks. Everyone wants at least rank 3, so for those below, you don't get in. So for those of us who aren't rank 3+, we can't get in. I know that people are going to say "Go find a guild." To which I would reply "They all want rank 3". So somebody will then say "Go find a NEWBIE guild". But those don't ever win. Now I know there aren't many ways for one to get rid of rank discrimination, but if you could get ANet to do SOMETHING about it, I would be grateful, even if it's getting them to get rid of the hero title all together (PLEASE!!). On a side not, I also noticed that with the TAs, you didn't actually had to have a party put togather. All you had to do was his start mission, and when somebody else went in with a missing slot, you got in in their missing slot. Well I noticed that HA doesn't do that. It would be as simple as making the HA able to do this. P.S. : Before somebody mentions randomway, it sucks. It will always suck. I will NOT dignify randomway with the presence of another person just because I have my problems.(So you know, I had finished typed the first paragraph when I realized somebody would mention randomway, and I didn't know where to stick it up there with my counter to anything that pops in to my brain that I might counter with).

Sunspear/Lightbringer events question
Hi, where can I ask a question if Sunspear/Lightbringer double (or maybe tripple ;-) weekend events are going to happen in a future for I am 1 rank away from max in both titles and kind of stuck right now? Thanks-- HH LEADER  talk 15:56, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

This page is not Gaile...
If anyone wants to chat to Gaile, please go to User talk:Gaile Gray Notice the USER... Ya? ty. Read the note at top, and please sign Posts... Smashman2004 ∙ talk 02:12, 9 November 2008 (UTC)