Talk:Frenzied Defense

Damage Type?
does double damage mean from physical damage? or any damage? If it is only physical I would think this skill would be very useful for any class or build that has few slots left for a secondary profession. umph
 * No, it is double damage from any damage type. Fox 16:32, 1 April 2007 (EDT)
 * Which makes it especially bad against spells. I've seen monks go down to Searing Flames or Air Spike faster than Paris Hilton with a camera phone. Because you don't block the spells you become incredibly vulnerable. Dancing Gnome 15:37, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * It is all damage, even non typed and/or armor ignoring. It doesn't affect sacrificing hp.StatMan 05:03, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

just get prot spirit and you will have a constant 75% block with no extra dmg.fun.Oni 14:52, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Imba
Imo nobody's thought to make a good build with this. But if there are: 1 mesmer, 1 monk, 1 ele and 1 -anything- in the team, all with /W secondary and this skill, they'd have mesmer interrupts, healing, heavy antimelee/projectile defense AND damage. Sure, there could be some unblockable attacks or punishes, but no prof has 7 good skills to bypass blocking. Ninjas In The Sky  12:02, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yet assassins have enough. Noctarch 02:22, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't work. Double damage is a ton for cloth wearers.  A teammate would die in two good hits.StatMan 15:34, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Skill Description Troubles
I thought using Frenzied Defense with Defiant Was Xinrae had potential for synergy, but, when I put up Frenzied Defense while holding the ashes, I took double damage and it certainly wasn't reduced to 20% of my maximum health (my health was a little less than 500 and I was hit somewhat consistently for around 180-240). Has anyone else experienced anything similar? Is the skill description for DwX misleading, or am I simply interpreting it wrong? Does this mean that Frenzied Defense causes reduced damage to be doubled (ie: 20% of max health with prot spirit or 40% with DwX)? Even if that is the case, if I remember correctly, I was being hit for more than 40% of my max health with Frenzied Defense and DwX up.
 * Frenzied Defense may be taking effect after DwX? like DwX reduces dmg then FD doubles it? 154.5.44.240 01:43, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Joke
I'm sure ANet only put this skill in for a joke. I can't see any other reason... Astralphoenix777 08:36, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
 * For monks. -- Halogod35  [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|15px]] 15:10, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
 * In order to be raped by MBs? I know it depends on the metagame, but it's wayy to risky.78.114.156.190 21:47, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
 * It requires zero spec and has a very favorable duration/recharge ratio, that's gold. Morphy 14:18, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
 * it's decent for the same reason Frenzy is- stance cancelling. - Maskeus User Maskeus sig.jpeg 17:25, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

bug
sometimes when I use that stance, I take the double of damage is someone cast an spell against me. It sometimes, but no always. --67.197.69.250 08:35, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
 * This skill blocks only attacks, and spells aren't attacks. Attacks are swings with weapons (caster or melee weapons) including attack skills, done by pressing space (action. 99.238.104.105 04:32, 13 February 2011 (UTC)