Talk:Mark of Subversion

This skill would have much more potential for necromancer main classes if it only had a faster casting time. It would give necromancers an interrupt besides Spinal Shivers or Shivers of Dread. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:70.177.103.214 (talk).
 * Nah, I think the casting time is fine, although the recharge time is a little high for my liking. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  貢  09:09, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * ya, recharge is the only problem here. but on the other hand, they'd have to buff Shame too then. - Y0_ ich_halt  [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px|Have a look at my page]] 12:37, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * No, they didn't. Energy management is more worth then loss of life. And our F.A.M.s have some similar spells in addition. Noctarch 21:45, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Note?
What is considered a targeted spell? If I target a Destroyer of Hope, and use Mystic Regeneration, does it count as a targeted spell that target a ally of mine? Could anyone enlighten me? F. C. Sauër 15:40, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Mystic Regen has to target yourself so this would not stop it. It has to be something like Word of Healing or Windborne Speed to trigger MoS. –  Emmett  16:09, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * But if you use Word of Healing on yourself? Does it trigger Mark of Subversion then? Even when you target a enemy? (As far as I know, it will be cast on yourself, as you cannot use it on a enemy) F. C. Sauër 17:37, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * If it says "target (other) ally" in the description, it'll trigger MoS; if it doesn't, it won't. So, for example, Flame Djinn's Haste and Veil of Thorns won't trigger this, and things like Aura of Stability and Mend Body and Soul will. –  Emmett  00:14, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for enlighten me! F. C. Sauër 12:50, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Redundant note is redundant
Not only do the regular and concise descriptions clarify that this hex triggers only on spells that target an ally of the hexed foe, but there's a note at the bottom of the page in case, for some reason, you didn't catch it the first two times mentioned! Yay!--Ph03n1x 17:49, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
 * The skill's description used to imply that it triggered when the hexed guy would cast a spell on one of your allies. Now that the description has changed, the note is indeed redundant.  Koda  [[Image:User_Koda_Kumi_UT.jpeg‎|19px]]  Kumi  17:59, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Hero usage
I've been wondering how heroes use this, anyone have a lot of experience with this skill on a hero? I'm suspicious that they might end up using this on warriors just as much as monks and ritualists, but can't tell straight away.K2K 02:40, 11 January 2011 (UTC)