User talk:Ariyen/2009/Archive6

Question
Thank you for sorting through my uploaded pictures and marking the orphaned ones for deletion :) i should have done that already. do i have to agree or mark them too to speed things up or will they be deleted now anyway?   ~ D ragon    18:14, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * She, uh, won't be able to answer your question right away, so I'll chime in. :) You can mark them as speedy if you want, but they'll be deleted either way. It is preferred, I think to have you mark them as speedy, that way the sysops know for sure that you don't need them. -- FreedomBound [[Image:User_Freedom_Bound_Sig.png|19px]] 18:19, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I just saw the "blocked" info, so i was expecting a delay. but thanks for you answer. will try to mark them...if i find out how. bloody wiki noob that i am ;)   ~ D ragon   [[Image:User Zaishen Dragon sig.png|User talk:Zaishen Dragon]] 18:25, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * You've got something like ? Just change it to  . -- FreedomBound  [[Image:User_Freedom_Bound_Sig.png|19px]] 18:27, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Appreciated you stepping in to help the person out, while I was away. -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 00:20, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem. -- FreedomBound [[Image:User_Freedom_Bound_Sig.png|19px]] 00:50, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
 * "the person"?? ^^   ~ D ragon   [[Image:User Zaishen Dragon sig.png|User talk:Zaishen Dragon]] 12:18, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Are you not a person? :P [[Image:User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpg]]Rose Of Kali 16:24, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Uhm...uhm...well, i hope i am ;) but still i am just a man and not the man. and i more feel like a person than like the person, you know *wink* just sounds kinda weird. at least in my own language. i am not sure tho how it sounds for native english speakers. tell me about it ^^   ~ D ragon   [[Image:User Zaishen Dragon sig.png|User talk:Zaishen Dragon]] 16:36, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, you were the only person to ask Ariyen for help while she was away. If she had said a person, it wouldn't have necessarily directly referenced you. :) -- FreedomBound [[Image:User_Freedom_Bound_Sig.png|19px]] 16:38, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I am aware of that. I like being directly referenced to ^^   ~ D ragon   [[Image:User Zaishen Dragon sig.png|User talk:Zaishen Dragon]] 16:42, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
 * hehe, want a cookie? -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 19:16, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
 * We also have s available. -- FreedomBound [[Image:User_Freedom_Bound_Sig.png|19px]] 19:18, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
 * If I had one, I'd have a little thief. Well actually baby girl likes bread stuff more than me. -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 19:21, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

hey im curious, is ariyen an allusion to aryan? --194.44.18.83 00:30, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Nope. -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 01:09, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Did i hear the sweet crunchy sound of cookies here? O.o   ~ D ragon   [[Image:User Zaishen Dragon sig.png|User talk:Zaishen Dragon]] 13:57, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Just for you! -- FreedomBound [[Image:User_Freedom_Bound_Sig.png|19px]] 14:02, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * ty :)   ~ D ragon   [[Image:User Zaishen Dragon sig.png|User talk:Zaishen Dragon]] 14:06, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * ooo Cookie! -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 15:09, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Added a "t"
Here, just for clarification purposes. Hope you don't mind. -- FreedomBound  00:36, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Baby turned off my computer, right about the time I was gonna fix that.... She just did it again, when I was almost done with a VQ... -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥  01:33, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Did anybody else hear Britney Spears in the background... Titani  <font color="#92000a">Ertan  05:22, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Lol she's a year old and fascinated with the lights near the power button. Had to unplug the cd drives cause of her apt to push buttons. Am looking into the front covers for the towers that places sell to keep little hands off. -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 08:29, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Might be a good idea. ^_^ Toy stores are also loaded with "flashy" toys nowadays, just get her something more interesting. :P [[Image:User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpg]]<font color="#000099">Rose Of Kali 14:43, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Mine had such a stage too, for some 3 months, and also from time to time now. It was so cute when he pulled out his hand and tried to grab stars, and jumped in frustration when he didn't get one. My Alaska Malamute bitch also has a flashing ball (don't worry; she's very gentle towards him, and was overprotective when he was small), and it was funny to see them wrestle over it. Miraculously, he always won... Later, we bought him some of the flashing toys Rose mentioned, and it kept him occupied for a long time. edit: Buy black stickers of some sort and cover flashy buttons with them; it can sort your problem very well. <font color="#92000a">Titani [[image:User Titani Ertan chrome.png|Uth]] <font color="#92000a">Ertan  14:57, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Or go in and clip the wires that lead to the LEDs. I hate those things anyway. Depending on your model/manufacturer, you may be able to disable those buttons. <font color="Black">-- <font color="#0104C6">FreedomBound [[Image:User_Freedom_Bound_Sig.png|19px]] 15:02, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Hehe, she has several flashy toys, but it's like she's more interesting in regular things like spoons, my mouse, etc. More so the things we usually use. Watches us too... Smart, she took apart a remote that she had gotten a hold of right when I least expected it. Took it apart, when my parents came through the door to visit us. Twas funny to see dad's face. She tried to help him when he was checking out my laptop. Quite interesting, she doesn't get after her dad's desktop. Guess it might be due to mine being 'shiny'. -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 19:45, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

hey
dont edit some users page especialy not with delete tags kthxnbai 128.176.178.20 01:17, 24 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Don't use an ip as a user. Register with a real name and you wouldn't be treated poorly. -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 01:18, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * lol your name isnt real to me either go get a real name then 128.176.178.20 01:19, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * At least it's not numbers and you can say the name. -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 01:20, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * one two eight one seven six one seven eight two zero 194.44.18.83 01:38, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * mmhmm, sounds like a robot. -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 01:39, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * First, you shouldn't be treating IPs poorly, as they have just as much value as any other registered or otherwise user. If it isn't you that's treating them poorly, then you should be warning other users not to treat any user poorly, not telling an unregistered user to register.
 * Second, this user is registered as 128 176 178 20 (note the lack of periods) with a proper user account. GWW:USER states that the signature must, within reason, resemble the name as registered, which I believe this one does. If the admins decide that it needs to be changed, then so be it, but technically, his user name and sig fall within policy.
 * Third, your general attitude toward other users and the lack of respect you have for them, for lack of a better phrase, really sucks. Please learn to Assume Good Faith. -- ★ KOKUOU ★ 01:59, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks like you have others to tell that to aka the users who's changed that user page 3 or more times besides me. I did what I did out of respect. Sorry you can't respect THAT. -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 02:11, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * He's misusing this policy here GWW:SIGN -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 02:18, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't you think that you should remember how you got banned the last time for causing unnecessary drama, ignoring the advice of other users such as Kokuou and asshattery to other users in general? Every few days you have a silly conflict over something that could have been just escalated appropriately to an admin, but you refuse to do that because of some unknown hubris. Stop. Escalate it to an admin for intervention, then leave it alone. Pika Fan 03:39, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Move


Comments need to be placed there for this chat. Tx. -- riyen ♥  02:21, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

"impersinating actual ip"
There's nothing that says a user can't register an account that looks like an IP (See User:000 00 00 00), but even if there were, it is poor form and rather foolish to treat an unregistered user any differently than a registered one. elix Omni 03:43, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Left you a message on irc. Hope you read it. 72.148.31.114 04:23, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

RACIST
Treating people differently because they're an IP? RACIST! Dark Morphon 10:52, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * IPS are an entire race? THEY'RE REPRODUCING! <font color="#92000a">Titani [[image:User Titani Ertan chrome.png|Uth]] <font color="#92000a">Ertan  12:52, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Treating people as racist because they differ in how they treat others? STUPID!
 * Seriously, both Ariyen and IPguy have gotten tons of flak and it's probably time to stop. | <font color="Red">72 User_Seventy_two_Truly_Random.jpg (U|T|C) 14:08, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Ariyen, can you please not archive ongoing/unfinished/recent discussions? It kinda makes it hard to get a full picture of something easily - I don't really want to have to check archives to be kept updated on something that's still a current issue. -- pling User Pling sig.png 17:32, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Not a racist. But considering the Sign Policy of Impersonating. *Shrugs* Sides, Hollar racist, but check the user history and tell that to the others. Btw, Rl note, I have friends of several 'races'. This isn't a racist issue, as much as a different issue. Off to tend to some things. 72.148.31.114 17:36, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * It isn't a racist issue, please learn how to detect figurative speech/sarcasm etc. Pika Fan 23:21, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * So, let me get this straight. First, you scream like hell froze over when your in-game soulmate (which you may or may not have just made up) does not want to see you again because people treated her poorly. Next, someone who does not want to have a static identity on this wiki (which I can understand) talks you you and you treat him just the same way. What are you thinking?  Koda  [[Image:User_Koda_Kumi_UT.jpeg‎|19px]]  Kumi  22:54, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The answer is that she thinks she is ahead and above of everyone else, when it is the opposite. Pika Fan 23:18, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * As kind as you may be to give an answer in Ariyen's place, your intentions about this matter is doubtful at best, so I advice you to keep your little verbal assaults off this wiki.  Koda  [[Image:User_Koda_Kumi_UT.jpeg‎|19px]]  Kumi  23:24, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Pot calling the kettle black, aren't we? Please, make more ironic accusations which only incriminate yourself. Pika Fan 23:27, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Inactive Guilds
They have to be active on the wiki. It doesnt matter how active their website/forum is. If they do not make edits they get moved to inactive. Drogo Boffin 21:03, 27 November 2009 (UTC) They have activity on the forums. -- riyen ♥  21:08, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
 * http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Guild_Wars_Wiki:List_of_inactive_guilds They were up to be tagged for inactive. Just helped cleaned it up. -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 21:05, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I think you missed my point. They havent had any edits for 3 months they need to be in the inactive list. You are removing them from the list because of their websites and forums. [[Image:User DrogoBoffin sig icon.png]] Drogo Boffin 21:07, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Have you not read the policy page? And on the site it says this. -> :they don't just have to be active on the wiki "Before tagging, please verify that any listed webpage/forum is inactive as per Guild page policy."
 * I think you need to read it again as well. [[Image:User DrogoBoffin sig icon.png]] Drogo Boffin 21:09, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Hahaha, Their forums are active. I'm not the only one who removes guilds from inactive list when the forums, webpages are active. -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 21:10, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Here's what it says on the policy. Guild pages will be tagged as if both of the following two conditions are met:
 * Condition 1: Wiki inactivity - The guild page has not received any edits for 3 months.
 * Condition 2: Inactivity outside of Wiki - Any listed forum and/or website has not received any GW-related edits for 3 months.
 * -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 21:12, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I look at the pages, check out the sites, check to see if it's gw related, and tag as per what I see. -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 21:13, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Obviousy Ariyen is correct here, per policy if there is an active forum/website listed the guild is proven to be active and thus cannot be tagged as inactive. The reason why there were so many right now is that I went through all the guilds tagged as inactive three months ago and untagged those with active forums/websites. Many of those guild pages are now up on the list again, and since most of them still have just as active forums as they had three months ago, they should not be tagged as inactive this time either. So the apparent flood is just an effect of a lot of wrongly tagged guild pages being corrected at the same time, normally only a small percentage of the guilds on the waiting to be tagged list will have active websites/forums. --Lensor ( talk ) 00:50, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you Lensor. -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 05:56, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

DrogoBoffin's talk page
Please, don't "enforce" policies which are designed to minimize tensions in a manner that does exactly the opposite. If you have an issue with someone removing something from their own talkpage, vigilantism isn't the right way to solve it. If need be, take it up with a third party such as a sysop. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 00:57, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Not enforcing. Doing others as others have done to me. -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 00:59, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * stop being dumb plz - Auron 01:13, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't npa please Auron. -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 01:16, 30 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Hes not breaking NPA as your name is not mentioned. He is just being blunt. --<font color="limegreen" size="2px">Dominator <font color="mediumblue" size="1px">Matrix  01:17, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The matter is over with, please just all let it go. [[Image:User Aiiane-a.gif|Go to Aiiane's Talk page]] (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 01:19, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you. -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 01:27, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Your welcome [[Image:User DrogoBoffin sig icon.png]] Drogo Boffin 01:30, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * not thanking you drogo. Just Aiiane for being The Smart one. -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 01:31, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I know I was just saying your welcome I let it go. A while ago. [[Image:User DrogoBoffin sig icon.png]] Drogo Boffin 01:38, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * good to hear. Sorry for being a butt, but just me? As I had an ip do similar on a wiki... I just archived. It's better that way than to delete as that'd cause more problems. -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 01:42, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I think this is a case of "do onto others as you would have others do onto you"? You shouldn't do things just because you can though. It's good to see that this has been resolved?<font color="Black"> -- [[Image:User_Lacky_Blue_Paw_Sig.png|15px|My Talk]] <font color="#0104C6">Lacky 01:50, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi
Seriously, why is everyone picking on you? - Reanimated X 07:40, 30 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Just a thought, but maybe because she likes to jump on others for doing things without first making sure if she is right or not about those things. 42 -  talk  07:47, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe, because I'm not the one forcing Toc or making big mistakes like others? And I try to be nice to point things out? yet things are 'taken' wrongly? Hmm? -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 07:57, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I Do make mistakes, but they're not Big, not rearranging all of gww like creating useless categories, templates (worse than what I have made), etc. -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 08:00, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Moving talk discussion
May I ask why you continue to move talk page discussions from your page to the other person's page? I've noticed you have done it several times, and I just don't understand why you are doing it. They are contacting you via your talk page. Do you just not want all the discussion on your page, and in your archives? Don't even think about moving this to my page either. <font color="#bb00bb" size="3px">~Celestia 09:25, 30 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Not going to, but when it deals about a discussion on one page, it should stay on that page. That's why I do it, I move it to the pages where it should be, where it Originated at. -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 09:27, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay then, thank you for answering. Archive away! <font color="#bb00bb" size="3px">~Celestia 09:31, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, this one stays here for a while. It's a good discussion that can stay for a bit and I think others would understand at least something I do and why. -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 09:39, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * If they alert you on your talkpage, it should remain there. If you ever moved discussion to my talkpage just because I posted on yours to alert you for a reply(especially when it's on your other "account", I would just /revert x2). Pika Fan 09:57, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * IF they alert me talking about a discussion already on their page. It should have been continued on that page, not moved to another talk page. -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 09:59, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * And pika, why are you bothering me? out for more drama? Please, don't bother me again. -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 10:03, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I have every right to post a legitimate discussion on your page. Feel free to correct me, or get a sysop/bureaucrat injunction telling me to stop. You posted on your IP instead of your account. User:42 wanted to ensure and cover all points by alerting your IP. Since it's not solely a continuation of the discussion on 42's page, it should have remained on your IP's talkpage. Pika Fan 10:11, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Sigh* It is a reference to a discussion on his page. It should have stayed there. I'm not going to repeat myself 15 times for you. -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 10:13, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * For example, if A and B had a discussion on page C, if A suddenly logged off, posted on A's IP at page C, it is only right for B to post on the IP's talkpage to 1) clarify that the IP was A and 2) alert A's IP just in case it's A's IP. No user, sysop, bcrat except you will move the talk on the IP back to page C. Does that ring some alarm bells as to what you are doing wrong or inappropriately? Pika Fan 10:23, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * That just sounds confusing. Example: A and B had a talk on page A (As started) A shouldn't continue talk on page C (being ip of A) just as A shouldn't continue talk on page D (being ip of B) It should resume on page A. where it started and should be ended. A should not move discussion to B's page as it started on A's page and should remain there.  Does this clear you up as to what went on? Or are you just going to 'assume' and blow things up? It's done. It's over. Let it go as this is not your problem, anyway. -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥  10:27, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I almost think you like each other.. -- Cyan [[Image:User Cyan Light sig.jpg|19px]] 10:35, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Ew. Lol. He's just still mad about a previous issue that he can't let go of. We disagreed on it, there's no agreeing to disagreeing. we just disagreed and that's that. It's just pittiful to jump in on another 'problem' discussion. Almost like ... I'm his wife. Scary, but I'm not. (Thank goodness!). I just hope he'll learn to mosey out and on his own business. He's just trying for drama again that could get him banned. I don't want banned. I just want things ended. I really really hate drama. Yet... it seems attracted to me. (Damn it!)... sheesh 5 am here, need to sleep, before runt gets up. Hopefully, it's over by time i get up and I pray I don't get banned. -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 10:43, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Sleep well ^^ (Its 11:50 here =P) -- Cyan [[Image:User Cyan Light sig.jpg|19px]] 10:51, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Admin Noticeboard
First, if you are not an admin, do not respond to posts there, create a discussion section on the talk page. Second, removal of nonsense posts like "First" on talk pages is allowed. -- Wyn  talk  04:19, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay. had to think for a moment, but understand now what you're getting at. So others get to respond on board.. and not told this... I see. -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 07:22, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't even start with that. Drogo has been told, as has everyone else that discusses on the noticeboard (there is a big red box at the top of the noticeboard that says DO NOT DISCUSS HERE). No one is singling you out for special treatment. -- Wyn [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon2.png|19px ]] talk  07:24, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I like how you auto put my name in there Wyn. I already know better than to discuss on the noticeboard, and have been told not to before. [[Image:User DrogoBoffin sig icon.png]] Drogo Boffin 07:25, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay. Nice to know this. I feel a little better. I'm glad others are informed. seems some hadn't been though. -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 07:26, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * As a sidenote, some people hasn't even had a "second chance" on warnings. Some admins consider the floating big red box of doom a warning already, so will ban users right away if they misuse the noticeboard :).--Fighterdoken 07:32, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not the one crying wolf posting a name on the board getting in the middle of a discussion that I had no part of. To me, posting something that's not all over the main boards, complaining, is stupid. Not to mention, talking about others behind their backs. Kinda cold And shows immaturity. -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 07:39, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Thing is, anyone can post anything there, it's the community's way of asking an admin to look into the situation and make a determination regarding the validity of the claim. There is no need to jump in and defend yourself if you aren't doing anything wrong. If you have something to say in response to something that is posted there, simply start a correlating discussion on the talk page. The admins will see that as well as the initial post. -- Wyn [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon2.png|19px ]] talk  07:48, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

This
was unnecessary for the most part. Other armourers like Lain and Maiya have white for the title cells and the coloured cells for each profession's armour. If you're going to make such big changes to formats, check other pages to see if there's a set scheme already before making changes.

Also, changing  to   makes no difference visually, and as far as I know, functionally, so it's probably a waste of time. Similarly, putting spaces between asterisks and text (i.e. changing this:  to this:  ) for bullets also does nothing useful, so it's probably a big waste of time, too. Just thought I'd let you know. -- ★ KOKUOU ★ 08:00, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I sent you the link to where it was decided with the following examples:  to   . Jon tried the same, till he said he'd go with consensus after he found the link. -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥  08:02, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * It's not an old consensus, because there was none. In fact, more people agreed with  than opposed it. Like I said, I just warned you because it's really just a big waste of time.
 * The bigger issue I had was with you changing the format for things without checking other things first. -- ★ KOKUOU ★ 08:09, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Only making the format easier to read, no big changes unlike armor, etc. I'm basically unlinking the page from it's self as I was taught by a few on here. Nothing wrong with helping the pages, while adding an affiliation. -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥  08:11, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I prefer the other way, so perhaps we should see what everyone else thinks before you start changing things. -- ★ KOKUOU ★ 08:19, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Not agf on it... I see. Well, ask in the appropriate places. -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 08:22, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * It has nothing to do with AGF. Most, if not all, of the other armourers from Factions, Nightfall, and EOTN use the coloured boxes, which I prefer. I can assume good faith, but not like something you do; big difference. -- ★ KOKUOU ★ 08:25, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I have seen otherwise. Just ask in the appropriate places and see what they say. Personally, I don't think people would want to have a hard time reading like say 15k with colors behind. Some people may be color blind, who play. Colors can effect/affect in certain areas and can cause someone to misread, misjudge, etc. Just stating. -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 08:29, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I personally dislike the colored backgrounds on the Armorer pages and would prefer it to be white. -- Wyn [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon2.png|19px ]] talk  08:48, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Same. It makes it easier to read on white on pages like that. -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 08:51, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Cool. I don't. - Mini Me   talk  15:55, 2 December 2009
 * That's why we have a discussion going on. see here-- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 19:06, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh cool thanks. - Mini Me   talk  21:06, 3 December 2009