Talk:Young Heroes of Tyria

I'm doing this now with guildies...but I'm only 3 missions in so someone will probably be first, not us. I'll update if we are.--Amantis 06:15, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

The Young Heroes book [Hard Mode] 7 pages is worth: Sunspear: 800 points, 800 gold, 8000XP Lightbringer: 800points, 800 gold, 8000XP Kurzick/Luxon: 16000 points, 800 gold, 8000 XP Lions Arch: 1200 gold, 12000 XP

8 pages is worth: Sunspear/Lightbringer:1000 points, 1000 gold, 10,000XP Kurzick/Luxon:20,000 points, 1000 gold, 10,000XP Lions Arch:1500 gold, 15000XP

9 pages is worth: Sunspear/Lightbringer:1,200 points, 1,200 gold, 12,000XP Kurzick/Luxon:24,000 points, 1,200 gold, 12,000 XP Lions Arch:1,800 gold, 18,000XP

thats what I have so far. Have work so must sleep now, hope that helps though.

Thargor97.82.93.173 06:52, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Makes sense why this book is hard mode only. If they offered a normal mode book, it'd be ridiculously easy for a fully leveled character to completely very quickly. 70.161.101.85 06:54, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Nothing makes sense as being hard-mode only. Hard mode is far from fun :( --Emkyooess 12:46, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * As there have been players (see this week's community management visit) who have asked for a harder Hard Mode, I think some people will disagree. --84.176.70.91 13:08, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Is it just me or is the reward low in terms of time you spend on it. I mean filling a campaign based book gives a lot more points and prob wouldn't take that much longer. (and pleaz point me those peeps who wanted a harder HM out, so they can help me ;)) 84.28.238.158 14:16, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * We don't know what you get for a full book yet, so please, be patient. As for peeps wanting a harder HM.. Try Guru and post a search. I guess there will be a few people who do HM for fun. --84.176.70.91 15:00, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Plus this might just be intended as a supplimental thing as you progress through the game or go back through it for Protector and Guardian. Tahl 18:40, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Rewards Incorrect?
I just offered my book filled with 10 pages to Anja/Gorani and Gordon Ecker.

Anja/Gorani offered 30.000 Friend of the Faction, 1.5p and 15k XP

Gordon offered 2.25p and 22.5k XP

According to the reward table (if I understood correctly) it should have 28k Faction;1.4p;14k XP / 21k XP;2.1p.

Can it be that the rewards have been altered and the information is not correct any more or did i understand the table wrongly. Also, i can imagine that the rewards might differ according to the missions completed.Chephan 18 Febuary 2009 22:18 (CET)

Rewards Table Clarification
The rewards table doesnt makes any sense as there is no indication, aside from the first column, of what the numeric values repressent. Can this be updated? I don't want to mess with someone else's stuff.24.188.207.20 14:54, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Read again? The second column shows the amount of reputation points you get in NF, corresponding to whom you give the book. The third column shows the amount of XP given out. The fourth column refers to the XP given for turning in the book in Lion's Arch (Seeing as there is no title to be gained by killing things in Proph.). The fifth column refers to the amount of gold given. The sixth column does the same, but as you don't get points for a title, you get more money. Hokay? --84.176.70.91 15:00, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I see it!Tahl 18:39, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I Find the Table Difficult to read, can i propose this alternative format (condensed to first line)MafooUK 16:08, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Rewards Table Proposed idea
Table Key
 * [[Image:Red dot.png]] Luxon
 * [[Image:Blue dot.png]] Kurzick
 * [[Image:Green dot.png]] Experience
 * [[Image:Sunspears.png]] Sunspears
 * [[Image:Any-tango-icon-20.png]] Lightbringer
 * Gold

The last reward seems a bit off. Would be nice if someone can proof that. TY. --217.235.115.135 19:43, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

There are 13 pages to this book...not 11. 20:43, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Added pages 11 and 12, and can confirm the stats for page 13 in the table are correct. proofproof proof 98.219.48.111 17:19, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * It seems, Gordon has an error in his text. "Are ready to give me the book?" instead of "are you ready." --M age [[image:user MageMontu sig.png| ]]M ontu 22:38, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, well, I happen to not like the new look. It's just way, way too busy. I can see how you'd want to have the major headings be the book accepter. I'd rather have it be something like
 * {| border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3"

!colspan="3"|Anja!!colspan="3"|Gorani
 * Luxon Faction||Experience||Gold||Kurzick Faction||Experience||Gold
 * }
 * --JonTheMon 16:37, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * --JonTheMon 16:37, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Text errors in the book (if any)
In the 2nd page, The Great Northern Wall: The hero and a hand-picked squad picked their way through (...). The wording seems a little awkward to me. -- Large 08:20, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * It may be but it's what it is in the book. I think it's just the use of "picked" twice and close to each other that might put people off --[[Image:User Master Saji Sig.jpg]] Master Saji  06:38, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * this sentence is correct. it is saying that people were PICKED and that they furthermore PICKED which way to go through the mission. as stated, it would throw off your less "educated grammar nazis" because of how close the 2 words are. --Uchiha Lena 06:52, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Bonus and Master needed?
Do you need to complete it with bonus or master or is just completing it enough? (i will try it with nothern wall without bonus) 217.123.100.238 18:05, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Just finishing the mission is enough.--Pyron Sy 18:07, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Trivia Section
Irrelevant bullshit is irrelevant. Nobody cares who the silhouettes are or what they appear to be wielding. I'm removing it. Kirenne Starfire &#91;Kw&#93; 22:34, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Since someone actually cared for pointing it on the article, i think people "do" care about it. The second trivia statement may be overdoing things, but i see no damage on the first statement staying. It is "trivia" after all.--Fighterdoken 22:36, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * You people are incredible. Kirenne Starfire &#91;Kw&#93; 01:13, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Full book=all Gw story missions done?
Do I have to complete EVERY story mission in GW to complete the book?From what I've seen on the page bout this book I have to do only the starter missions. --Monolito 18:10, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * You only need to do the missions listed there (in Hardmode). -- mira  castillo  18:14, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank You very much for answering.I got most of NF mission completed with the master's reward and it would be a big pain in the butt to do 'em again jus to complete the book.GG AN :) --Monolito 10:25, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * You don't need master's, just HM completion I believe. --Link4all 18:47, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * True -- Arduinna [[Image:User_Arduinna_Companionship.jpg|15px|talk]] 18:56, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Trivia
Added a new section about some of NPC's named after the wiki users - JoPe  Talk   03:37, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Ok, just wanted to say that I dont have a wiki account and don't know much about creating/editing pages but I noticed a couple simple typos so I fixed them. It was just where someone forgot to hit the spacebar and two words were together. Like in the first nightfall blurb there was "heroto" instead of "hero to". Just thought I would throw that out there. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:98.192.212.166 (talk).

O and I did fix them. Just hit the edit button and fixed it. Hope there wasn't something else I was supposed to do. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:98.192.212.166 (talk).

If you fill the book and give it to kurzick, does the faction goes 1-to-1 or it doubles (like every time you spend kurzick faction)? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Disarm76 (talk).
 * Each time you hand in the book, it will go toward your title 1-to-1. Side note:Kurzick faction doesn't double every time you spend it, it just gives double the amount of points that will go toward your title. Assassin Warrior User Assassin Warrior sig.png 22:35, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Need all campaigns?
This is just a quick question I wanted to ask. Do you need to actually have all three campaigns active on your account to get this book? I have Prophecies, Factions, and Eye of the North and can't seem to be able to get this book from the guy in Lion's Arch. I just wanted to confirm that you need all three campaigns to receive this. Also I suggest an edit to the main page to make this clear. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:130.245.250.21 (talk).


 * Hi I also wondered about this, so I asked in chat and was told I need nightfall. I'm not sure if you need all three or not though, but I'm guessing since all 3 campains are in the book. Can anyone comfirm that? Chlala 13:41, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Repeating the Books?
After filling in a book and handing it in, can you then get the same book and fill it all back in again by doing the missions over? 92.24.17.249 22:38, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes. -- FreedomBound [[Image:User_Freedom_Bound_Sig.png|19px]] 22:50, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Unable to do some missions
Correct me if im wrong but if the character is born outside of the factions campaign you can only complete upto 11 pages. The two faction mission can not be started as you need access to the island which you cant get to. With this in mind you lose out on 50k allegiance points or 2.5k reputation points. Also confirmed that if you have just completed the Consulate Dock mission and Koss is or still kidnaped you will not be able to do the Chahbek Village as Koss is a requirment. 81.97.90.1 19:50, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * You can get to the missions as a foreign character. Check the Shing Jea Island page. You're probably right about Chahbek Village though. &mdash; Why [[Image:User Why s.png|User talk:Why]] 19:56, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Koss is indeed needed for Chahbek, so you have to complete The Great Escape before you can do it if you finished the Consulate Docks. It's been something of a mild frustration for me in past.Kyubiko 04:48, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Cluttered
the current tables pretty clutter, I think that proposed idea would be alot better  Zachariah Zuan. 12:06, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I like the current version. The one I believe you're proposing to (the one with the color coded circles) are bad for two reasons: 1) That is more cluttered (imo) as you also need the key and it adds unnecessary icons (you might as well put the faction's name next to the collector's name) and 2) Doesn't help color blind people at all (as they could mix colors up and have troubles with that; depending on how they are color blind). -- Konig / talk 21:42, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
 * if we're worrying about people who are colourblind why do we have dye charts? I'm suggesting it cause it's less cluttered, it shows easily for each person, in order what they get for giving in books instead of a table that shows you what you get from what people, with various names under one colum, it's a mess, as for colourblind, simple replace the Luxon, and Kurick with a small insignia form their flags  Zachariah Zuan. 22:50, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * With dye charts we don't really have an alternative aside from nothing, which is worse. And I disagree that it is less cluttered. It is not even that easier to follow. The current chart only mentions things once while the chart you suggest mention things multiple times on an unnecessary basis. The only argument you really have is that the chart you're suggesting is easier to read - albeit not by much. The one you're wanting is more cluttered because it has more things up there, but it is all grouped differently so that there is one for one in columns. And it is the same book so how is it "what they get for giving in books?" There's nothing wrong with various names under one column - that's done all the time here. In fact, that's why the one currently being used isn't as cluttered. And it is still easy to read. -- Konig / talk 00:12, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
 * while I agree to some extent, I still think this is alot neater you have set, names, then along the side you have page numbers, and then alongside is what you get for giving in with the required pages filled while the current one it's not even clear for example what reputation your getting sure you have 1, it's EITHER luxon or Kurz or 2. it's EITHER sunspear or Lightbringer, when you could have just those symbols as I mentioned on the new table, also having the heads of the colum being the reward, like Gold is given by THESE people here sthe amounts they give, oh Eckers Sperate, when the suggested table has each new colum under one person, so you know what you get from each, all it takes is a glance and your off  Zachariah Zuan. 09:41, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Double reward
Does the double reward for luxon or kurzick point during week end works on these books? If i give a full book during double luxon or kurzick week end would i get 180.000 points for my title?


 * I just tried it. As I suspected, the weekend event does not affect it at all. The points are added directly to the title. 209.152.110.19 02:28, 23 May 2011 (UTC)