Talk:Grahame (Commemorative Weapons)

Ritualist
There appear to be no Ritualist commemorative weapons. &mdash; Mar  Master  08:49, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Paragon
Nothing for Paragons &mdash; Mar  Master  08:53, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Nothing for the exclusive professions in Factions and Nightfall, kinda of disappointing really. --Floreum 07:10, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Alari's Double Blades, Oppressor's Scythe, Oppressor's Daggers, Oppressor's Focus, Oppressor's Staff, Oppressor's Scepter, Oppressor's Shield, Oppressor's Spear, Law and Order, Beacon of the Unseen,Promise of the Unseen, Fanatical Devotion, Righteous Fury, Long Arm of the Law. I'm sorry, but how is there nothing for the assassin, ritualist, dervish, and paragon? If you meant for just Grahame, there is still one for the assassin and there isn't something for half of the core professions (hammer, smiter's, prot, divine, curses, soul reaping, blood, water, earth, air, energy management, illusion, inspiration, domination). -- Konig / talk 17:16, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Calm konig.. calm.. think happy pink elephants.. bunnys... But srsly. stop moaning you two. konig has a point.-- Neil   2250  User Neil2250 sig icon6.png 17:22, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I am calm...? And bunnies are evil. -- Konig / talk 17:34, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I find it disappointing that the Warrior's 5 attributes are catered for with even 2 greens in some cases, but Elementalists only get a few of theirs catered to, and non-core classes have even less. This issue isn't unique to WiK either. It's obviously not the end of the world or anything, but some classes do get more attention from the developers than others consistently, which I think is a valid complaint. Manifold [[Image:User_Manifold_Neptune.jpg|19px]] 17:44, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Dervish
Nothing for Dervishes &mdash; Mar  Master  08:53, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * You didn't have to make 3 sections to complain about it. Besides, the golds are better and worth more. Most of these are just EotN dungeon skins, except Alari's which are two basic models. Lillium 09:17, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * No fair. I want a new scythe... And the other one's ugly. Idmz 14:50, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * There also isn't a weapon for hammer warriors, or a lot of caster attributes. The weapons are supposed to be the personal weapons of the major WiK NPCs, and there aren't any non-core professions among them (except for Alari, got changed from a ranger to an assassin for WiK). 97.80.119.149 16:17, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * You need to have EotN and Prophecies to get the WiK. Note that EotN supports all 10 classes. After the hard work to get the Gift/Tokens/MoH, you can give a Commemorative weapon to your heroes? That's pretty weak. &mdash; Mar  [[Image:User_Mar_Master_Sig2b.png|19px|Talk ]] Master  17:11, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * You seem to overlook the Oppressor Weapons, which hold every attribute and weapon, are gold and inscribable. -- Konig / talk 17:38, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Overlook? Where is this mystery Collector of MoH? I can get all sorts of weapons, but for MoH, there is only Grahame! For weeks now, I and Guildies and Allies have been waiting for the mystery of the MoH to be solved, for all this buildup and suspense We.Get.Nothing on our Rt/D/P players. I deeply appreciate that the Live Team and others worked hard to give us new content. The fiendish builds on the peacekeepers were a serious challenge. Save up those MoH for a treat at the end. Oh wait, you Rt/D/P players, thanks for playing - now get a real class! The Deldrimor Talisman awarded at the end of Prophecies awards items for all 10 classes, so we can't say that WiK can't support the 3 professions above. &mdash; Mar  [[Image:User_Mar_Master_Sig2b.png|19px|Talk ]] Master  18:15, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppressor's Weapon. There are 10 along the right and left of Salma on the ground behind where the other 4 collectors (including Grahame) are. That is, that's their position in the explorable after the Battle for Lion's Arch. Seriously, look around before you QQ about nothing. Because there are weapons for Dervishes, Paragons, and Ritualists. And then there's the unique drops from WM and Peacekeeper enemies. Aside from Grahame, there are ten copies of a Lionguard collector (which doesn't seem to have a page yet) to collect the medals. Seriously, look before you cry. -- Konig / talk 18:27, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

New category
For all weapons given? They're pretty diverse, and I think a category is in order. :) 09:42, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Agreed! We have a category set up for Tormented Weapons, Destroyer Weapons, etc. --Musha [[Image:User_Musha_Sigc.png|19px]] 18:21, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Category:Commemorative weapons -- Wyn [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon2.png|19px ]] talk  18:31, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yep, you're awesome, Wyn. --Musha [[Image:User_Musha_Sigc.png|19px]] 17:39, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Old Skinns
They used old skinns for these weapons? Or skinns not much used by players. Like the skills for the new Mantles and Peacekeepers. -- M ann 18:48, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Excluding Alari's I think they're all old skins. But the Oppressor's Weapons are new. -- Konig / talk 19:08, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Even alari's are old skinned. Gladius (gladius) But they made them daggers, instead of swords. thats the new thing of it. -- M ann 08:09, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
 * It's them being new skins for daggers that I was noting, actually. -- Konig / talk 17:54, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Merge with Grahame
I noticed the suggestions on the page, but no discussion here, so to get things started... should they be split like Gwen pre/post searing, or merged into a single page?  Nela  - (talk) 22:56, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge, neither NPC is that different between Proph and GW:B. Other NPCs of more difference (Alari's profession change, for instance) is the same page. There's no need for this to be separate, unlike things like Isaiah and Toriimo. -- Konig / talk 01:17, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Are the names different in game? And does "this" one offer the other items as well as the commemorative weapons? -- Wyn [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon2.png|19px ]] talk  23:31, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The only difference in names is that Grahame in LA is Grahame [Weapons] (like any other weapon maker) and the one in the end-war area is Grahame [Commemorative Weapons]. To the second question, no this one is a collector while the other one is a trader. That's the only difference. If this is kept, it should be renamed to Grahame (collector) - that's more accurate and correct naming than this. Same NPC, but different functions, just like quite a few other NPCs in the war. -- Konig / talk 02:06, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm definitely for merging them. --Adul 20:17, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

No hammer
So... why no hammer, spear, or scythe? --Musha 02:02, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Not enough famous folks during the war. Do you see a scythe/spear/hammer wielding important fellow during the War in Kryta? -- Konig / talk 02:54, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Too expensive
I don't know about the rest of you, but while I do like some of these there's just no way I can convince myself that I'm better off spending whole ten medals on one of them rather than getting another oppressor weapon (in b4: "Then don't get them nub"...blahblah) - VileLasagna 12:43, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I get oppressor spears and sell them for 100k - 16e so meh. It's always your choice but i'd Go for the Ectos! DemonicFahrirDesecrate_Enchantments.jpg 13:00, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I like the skins so been keeping the Opp's. Although now it just crossed my mind that if these were unreplicable uniques they would be epic win. Kinda like the stuff in Sorrow's Furnace, I know I love my Stonehart - VileLasagna 01:04, 23 November 2010 (UTC)