User talk:The Sins We Die By/Top Priority Skills

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Sins, please stop.

honestly :/...83.249.112.175 00:24, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Your proposed updates
would break the game even harder than it is now. (oddly enough, guild wars is one of the most well-balanced RPGs in existence.) i had to stop reading after the assassin section and Farmer's Scythe. the fuck were you on when you wrote those? ··· cedave  18:06, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Nothing and trolling and/or lack of reasoning is pointless to post on my pages. I will either attempt to explain things logically or simply tell you off.  If you have a problem with suggestions explain why.  If it comes down to a difference of opinion it does, but swaying my opinion will not happen due to a "Your suggestions fail" post no matter how it is worded.  You will have better luck with "Your suggestions fail, because...".  Regardless of what people believe there is more than one way to balance a game (that includes this game).~>Sins  WDB [[Image: User The_Sins_We_Die_By_Sig.png]] 03:43, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Look at your suggestions for Dash and Golden Skull Strike. There's a reason Blackout has a 12 second recharge, 10 cost, AND disables your skills. Because removing a player from the game is simply overpowered. Dash's 3 second duration is huge enough at 50% increase. Most 33% speed increases don't last half their recharge without an extremely good spec. Most non-elites once barely last one third. Farmer's Scythe is simply overkill. Knockdowns are dangerous, and giving scythes one is just uncalled for. Pious Renewal would break Derv Cappers in HB more than they already are. For Pious Assault, do you really feel that a non-elite DW + damage is even close to reasonable for 5 energy? Many of the skills you suggest nerfs for would simply Smiter's Boon them - effectively removing them from play. Many of the buffs you suggest are simply overpowered or extremely gimmicky. ··· cedave  16:55, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Behind 1 of your arguments is the assumption that scythes are better than other weapons.
 * . Scythes are worse than axes. Axes have greater dps and criticals with a high enough frequency and damage to counter scythe criticals being as high as they are.  In addition axes are one handed therefore you can wield an offhand.  Finally besides deepwound scythe utility is conditional and nowhere near as good as an axe's.
 * . Scythes are worse than swords. Swords have greater dps, however they do not match up with axes and scythes in the critical department.  On the other hand swords have a better unconditional utility than axes.  Swords are one handed therefore you can wield an offhand.
 * . Scythes are worse than hammers. Hammers and scythes have equivalent dps.  Hammers have chains of unconditional knockdown that yields better results than the slight advantage in critical damage scythes have.
 * Possibility for multi-hitting with scythes are incredibly slim in most forms of PvP except for HA, where it is somewhat likely. Therefore this argument only holds viable weight in regard to this portion o PvP.
 * Moving on... Pious only costs less for dervs while they are not enchanted. The reasons it should cost less for them in this situation are simple.  2 other professions use this skill better than dervishes do and 10 energy lost while not enchanted is a heavy chunk of energy lost with no other utility beyond deep wound.  "For Pious Assault, do you really feel that a non-elite DW + damage is even close to reasonable for 5 energy?" Do you think a 5 skill that charges up more frequently than 12 seconds and has 10%-13% armor penetration is reasonable?  I do.  As for farmer's scythe I can only somewhat see your point in HA, but the adjacent range on scythes is not the same as adjacent spell range.  It's in fact smaller than that.  In regard to your argument about HB and Pious Restoration being broken there, HB is already broken and the devs have stated they will try to make changes to it.  Therefore, I am disregarding that argument.


 * Finally given sins. There's a reason my elite changes are elite and only last 2 seconds.  Basically what you said about blackout is correct.  Yet my Temple Strike has a pre-req and my golden skull requires an enchant.  Therefore, they can't be immediately used like blackout can.  In addition, blackout on a domination bar is superior to any proposed sin build I can think of using my versions of these elites (yes I am using the power of the domination line as justification for these two skills).  Mesmers can cast passive skills that shut down foes and while those effects are up can use blackout.  Therefore mesmers maintain effectiveness even with their own skills shutdown.  The time of their own disable, which is 5 seconds, is rather insignificant for the caster given the passive nature of the mesmer skills in question (empathy, backfire, VoR).  Given that my version of head popping assassin elites only disable skills for 2 seconds (one of which only disables spells and attack skills) and have similar or longer recharges than blackout and last shorter durations than a warrior knockdown and given the information above its fair to say these skills will not break anything.  As for dash and other tweaks, assassins are fragile.  If they were good enough at survival they would see some use due to their effective dps.  Obviously that balance hasn't been reached yet either.~>Sins  WDB [[Image: User The_Sins_We_Die_By_Sig.png]] 04:31, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Oh, for the love of god...

This balance section should be see as trolling. Stop trying to debate sins, he clearly isn't open minded enough.83.249.112.175 16:54, 3 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Trolling is intentially leaving inflammatory disruptive posts. It's not an offering of facts, suggestions, opinions, or logic lacking flaming/disruption.  Furthermore this is my user space, how do I disrupt my own page? (rhetorical)~>Sins  WDB [[Image: User The_Sins_We_Die_By_Sig.png]] 18:32, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You disrupt logic with your idiocy. Dark Morphon 15:31, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * ^ Perfect example of trolling. ~>Sins  WDB [[Image: User The_Sins_We_Die_By_Sig.png]] 02:12, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * But I do it for teh lulz. Dark Morphon 11:35, 19 July 2009 (UTC)