User talk:Shard/Archive4

Trolling
Wow, no recent trolls. I think one is due. Rwwwrrrrr!!! You can't cross this bridge!!! -- *Yasmin Parvaneh*  19:05, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Just archived that last big section. Ahhh, no more scrollbar in firefox.  ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 21:34, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I heard "Monkey Town" on the radio yesterday and I thought of you!-- *Yasmin Parvaneh* [[Image:User_yasmin_parvaneh_sig.png]] 23:38, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Won't you take me to...FUNKAY TAAAAAAWN! ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 00:00, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * MONKEEEEE TAAAAWWWWNNNN!-- *Yasmin Parvaneh* [[Image:User_yasmin_parvaneh_sig.png]] 20:49, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * You're engine is named Monkey Engine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!-- *Yasmin Parvaneh* [[Image:User_yasmin_parvaneh_sig.png]] 19:37, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

now
where is my furzt ? ^^ Also quit the lawsuits joke next time it wont be funny (i hope) Lilondra 17:41, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

divine favor vs mbas
mention on your userpage that as monks are supposed to be for heal/prot, their primary attribute should make them better at it than rits (the whole "primaries are supposed to be bonuses not reqs" thing) -- Armond Warblade 18:13, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


 * You think you monks have it hard? try playing a bow ranger without expertise. You won't get very far. Oh, and I agree with Shard on "Never have 2 skills that are similar, but one worse." Orison is rubbish. Oh, and check out Ethereal Light for a good laugh.

Also, wtb strengthscythe build. -- Armond Warblade 13:16, 26 August 2008 (UTC)


 * [[Image:Power Attack.jpg]][[Image:Protector's Strike.jpg]][[Image:Wild Blow.jpg]][[Image:Distracting Strike.jpg]][[Image:Bull's Strike.jpg]][[Image:Rush.jpg]][[Image:Warrior's Endurance.jpg]][[Image:Resurrection Signet.jpg]]


 * OQoiExpMJUYUEUIJyU8TYXIAAA


 * For pve, I switch rush -> Aura of Holy Might, bulls -> zealous sweep or "I Am The Strongest!" and usually bring a splinter spammer. ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 04:49, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


 * No IAS? Scythe DPS scales insanely with an IAS due to crits. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 14:46, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, no body blow makes me a sad panda. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 14:47, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Prot strike and distracting strike are your IAS, and as for deep wound, lol. Power attack is your deep wound, and it stacks!
 * Make sure you roll stonefist for bulls strike. There's nothing quite as funny as a slashing weapon knocking down three people for 2 seconds and doing 120 damage at the same time.  ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 23:10, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Deep wound wasn't the idea, +40 unconditional damage was. Bear in mind this is PvE mostly, but I might do some PvP. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 23:18, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * My guild brings celerity, so I almost never need an IAS in pve. ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 23:54, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


 * But I lack guild. :P -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 02:58, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * That's very unmanly.
 * [[Image:Defy Pain.jpg]][[Image:Endure Pain.jpg]][[Image:Counterattack.jpg]][[Image:Victorious Sweep.jpg]][[Image:Sprint.jpg]][[Image:Flail.jpg]][[Image:Dolyak Signet.jpg]][[Image:Healing Signet.jpg]].
 * THAT'S manly. Fuck res, two sup runes for tactics and strength. -- NUKLEAR  [[Image:User NuclearVII signature 3.jpg|19x19px]] IIV  10:47, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Join our guild Armond!!! Seriously, join us.-- *Yasmin Parvaneh* [[Image:User_yasmin_parvaneh_sig.png]] 19:39, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * WHAT!? No signet of stamina? ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FREAKING MIND!?!?!?
 * One time my guildies and I made a 4 man build to give my warrior +3000 health so I could walk past the AB base defenders and they could shadow step to me and camp the other team's spawn point. It worked.  Funniest.  Match.  Ever.  ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 20:23, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Trapspaming teleporters is my pasttime. Disscuss. -- NUKLEAR  [[Image:User NuclearVII signature 3.jpg|19x19px]] IIV  21:12, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Skill of the Day
I take it from your position on Shadow Prison that your trying to get it buffed right? :) | Foul Bane | 05:15, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I think the poison from black spider/falling spider is supposed to represent slathering them in poison before combat, kinda like how rogues in WoW get poisons. Why it only works in certain situations is beyond me, though... -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 22:37, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * No, I poke fun of skills that either are a problem now, have been a problem in the past (which is shadow prison's case), or skills that are popularly considered bad (mending etc.). In my opinion, Shadow Prison is still technically broken because it is still a shadow step and a snare combined, which will never be balanced no matter what you do to it.  ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 23:08, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It's a shame this got nerfed. There was nothing wrong with the skill in the first place, the problem was Black Lotus Strike/Black Spider Strike that allowed people to get 2 duals with only 2 other attacks while inflicting degen and gaining energy. Now that Black Lotus has been nerfed, I think this skill can be brought back.
 * Snare + shadowstep = bad idea, always. At the very least, the snare should be dropped to 33%. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 23:34, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Look at this!!
LOL look at what Cursed posted to Izzy's page. Avatar of Izzy 10  2  30

Elite Form. For 10...74...90 seconds, you nerf skills 33% faster, each time a nerf a skill this way, the gw community QQ for 1...3...4 days. This Skill is disabled for 120 seconds.

u should probably nerf it a bit.

-- *Yasmin Parvaneh*  00:29, 30 August 2008 (UTC)


 * That's pretty good, but doesn't that skill also give you +40 armor against thinking? ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 00:31, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * He also forgot to mention, ****edited because I offended someone and I must fear the thought police for my freedom of speech, if I do not fear them then I will suffer terrible consequences.***. lul. Anyway, Shard you read it, and we laughed on vent so it's all good. -- *Yasmin Parvaneh* [[Image:User_yasmin_parvaneh_sig.png]] 21:32, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

You were right
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Rank_15.jpg

There's the emote. It doesn't look that bad. This image is real right? Is that Starcraft or is Sir Spartan a different scrub from GANK?-- *Yasmin Parvaneh*  21:57, 31 August 2008 (UTC)


 * DAGRON ITT -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 22:00, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Spartan took the pic of starcraft. Yes it's real, yes I knew about it 6 months ago, yes everyone else knew about it a year ago when gaile did that emote in a populated town, yes the animation is half-baked, and lastly, yes I want one.  However, no, I don't want to work through 80k fame of burning pidgeon to get to it.
 * Also starcraft had 2 advantages: Anet gave him a chunk of fame, and he cheated very large chunks on more than one occasion. If I could do a million damage with 0 energy, I would have a lot of fame too.
 * It's too bad anet only bans good players for cheating, but gives bad players free fame for it. Probably the worst customer service company in the history of mankind.  At least we found out where detraya's 1500 stolen fame went.  ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 08:58, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * ITT hero title is bad for the game, discuss. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 11:37, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I've been saying that for years. -- NUKLEAR  [[Image:User NuclearVII signature 3.jpg|19x19px]] IIV  12:39, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah dw in gw 2 ppl will have gloat so everybody will have ranks >< (and youll proly be able to lvl it up like in wow)81.245.118.60 14:42, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * In GW2 there's going to be a more imbalanced arena than HA that anet wants you to farm instead of playing competitively. GW failed as a pvp game because izzy failed as a game balancer, so they're making GW2 mostly pve.  ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 20:32, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Careful Shard, I smell a ban as that is a personal attack you're making on your personal page. Freedom of speech FTL Orwellian Thought Police and totalatarianism FTW! -- *Yasmin Parvaneh* [[Image:User_yasmin_parvaneh_sig.png]] 07:32, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately you can get banned for speaking the truth....
 * I agree, and its most unfortunate. Speaking of truths, Shard, log in for like a sec on GW so we don't kick you. Oh, and I miss you and stuff.-- *Yasmin Parvaneh* [[Image:User_yasmin_parvaneh_sig.png]] 00:13, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * You only miss Shard because your monk forgot to remove Blind.

Holy shit
You were constructive on Izzy's page? -- Armond Warblade 22:51, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL that was a fast response. ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 22:52, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * People have been considering to delete all that stuff (GW2 suggestions, the skill feedback pages, etc), as is being discussed here. People even asked Arena Net about it, although I'm not sure they could just say "Yep, trash it, we never read it anyway". In this context, Gaile's reply to you made me smile. Erasculio 22:56, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * For some reason, I doubt they read it every day. 1 suggestion at the most is added every day, it would be quite boring to read through the same thousand skill suggestions every day. Sometimes I think Gaile is using anet's famous Automatic Comment Generator.
 * My favorite is "We'll be monitoring over the next few weeks." ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 23:01, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * When they say that it means that they will take a few years to do anything.

aw my gawd
i updated my balance page it needs some love.Visit it NAO or ill save the kittens cursed angel got and kill them right after. Lilondra  *poke*  13:13, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Create A Profession
Hi there, you signed up for the "Create A Profession" contest, and I wanted to inform you that all professions need to be completed by September 28th, 2008. Your profession must be completed by this date in order to recieve a score from the judges. Good luck and have fun! This is an automated message -- Shadowphoenix  14:12, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I want balance input nao. -- NUKLEAR  [[Image:User NuclearVII signature 3.jpg|19x19px]] IIV  13:15, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I like your idea and Cursed Angel's. Both are pro. His icons were the bomb too.-- *Yasmin Parvaneh* [[Image:User_yasmin_parvaneh_sig.png]] 20:03, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

how is
the emulator ? Lilondra  *poke*  15:05, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Ele's Bio
Tippe is a part of my ele's biography!!!-- *Yasmin Parvaneh*  20:48, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Crusade
Gj. It looks pretty neat. And for Java, it has pretty good graphics. Better than Runescape even. lol. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  貢  14:57, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Runescape, AFAIK, was written in pure base java, meaning they had to use the standard libraries for creating shapes and colors. jme uses an actual renderer to do all the dirty work.  ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 19:42, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, icic. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  貢  20:08, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Anyway it looks nice now if you would make a balanced gw i would actually play that game :p Lilondra  [[Image:Eviscerate.jpg|19x19px]] *poke*  10:26, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm 99% sure that Shard can balance this better than Izzy balances Build Wars. In fact, I think 99% of people can balance anything better than Izzy balances Build Wars given 3 years to learn the metagame. Anyway, I may consider testing this if I can verify that you didn't put anything in it that you shouldn't. Who did the artwork and graphics? 96.233.0.7 15:40, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * All the media is under a Creative Commons or similar license. As long as I include the authors and don't make money off it, it's all legal to use.  I'd only need to remove some of the skill icons and possibly one particular music track.
 * It's not up for testing right now. Everything that has been coded works perfectly.  I'm just adding to it little by little.
 * Anyone up for coding GW skills? It'll be fun if you're into programming.  ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 18:29, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * What kind of programming? Java I assume? &mdash;  ク  Eloc  貢  13:31, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * If I could code worth a damn I'd help. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 21:22, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, java. ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 22:40, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

weekend
Play with us this weekend...we miss you!-- *Yasmin Parvaneh*  22:20, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * If you miss Shard, try removing Blind, Blurred Vision, and Reckless Haste.

Create A Profession is coming to an end
This message is to inform you that this is your last day to work on your profession. Judges will only judge what you have on the 28th. If anything is added after the 28th, it will not be taken into consideration during judging. The judges will be judging all of the entrys on Sept. 28th - 30th. Make sure you make any touch ups, etc. that need to be added today. The winner(s) and points awarded will be announced shortly after the 30th. We thank you for particpating in The Create A Profession Contest! This is an automated message -- Shadowphoenix  22:22, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

spoil victor
I thought you would make a spoil victor one :p.If you have 8 pets in youre party kill target guild lord.If you do not,nothing happens. Lilondra  *poke*  18:11, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * That'll be today's skill. ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 20:05, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Forget SV--next you need to do Glowing Gaze of OMG Dahalia can use a shield and never swap to her normal energy set and still cast like 8 meteorshowers.-- *Yasmin Parvaneh* [[Image:User_yasmin_parvaneh_sig.png]] 11:14, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

ArenaNet:Skill feedback/Miscellaneous/Fixing Effect Stacking
The link to ArenaNet:Skill feedback/Miscellaneous/Fixing Effect Stacking at ArenaNet:Skill feedback/Miscellaneous was red when I removed it. According to the page histories, the target page was not created until 26 minutes after I removed the link and 14 hours, 21 minutes after the link was added. It's possible that you created the page before adding the link, but a glitch prevented that edit from being processed immediately. -- Gordon Ecker 00:50, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah I posted it much later after making the link. Sorry.  ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 02:33, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Update
Create A Profession is having some delays in judging, therefore the judging period has been bumped up and will end on Oct. 5th. We apologize for the inconvenience. Winners and points awarded will be announced shortly after Oct. 5th. Please do not edit your profession pages. Thank you! This is an automated message -- Shadowphoenix  02:29, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Glowstone
Nevermind. I need to learn to read. 145.94.74.23 20:44, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

eh
dunno are you talking about my spirit page ? cuz i changed them to spirit blessings giving a mobile buff Lilondra   *poke*  18:04, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

updated skill balance
have a look and waste youre time :p Lilondra   *poke*  09:49, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

About the emulator
What about copyright issues? As far as I know you might not have issues taking the implementation but Anet might have issues if you use their skill names or skill icons.

And since when do you get 10 skills on your skillbar?

Finally how long did it take you to write the engine? 96.233.0.7 15:39, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Anet doesn't have a copyright on their game mechanics, only the skill names and most of the icons are copyrighted. There are even ways I can work around that.  I don't think it will be an issue.  Copyrights exist so people can make money off their ideas.  This project won't compete with GW.
 * Actually, you can technically have up to 120 skills, but they'd all suck. I use a skill point system instead of an attribute system.  Max level characters get 120 skill points, which can max out 6 skills.  There are shift and control skillbars for easy access to 30 skill slots, should you need them.
 * It took roughly two years to come up with and program the game mechanics, and another year implementing the 3d engine so far. I hope to have basic functionality for the engine by Christmas (enemy health bars, floating numbers for damage, some animations and effects, etc). ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 18:11, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * that would be awesome and as long as you dont have a bad influence (thus youre not giving youre copy to players who dont have a gw acc and not asking money) isnt it legal ? Lilondra  [[Image:Eviscerate.jpg|19x19px]] *poke*  05:26, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It's not an actual emulator, it will just have a game mode that micmics guild wars' combat rules. The only thing I would take from GW directly is the skill icons, and there are ways I can get around that legally.  It won't even be a requirement to have those icons, I can just use mine.  It also will not be an online game for a long time.  I coded it so I could convert it easily, but it's going to be a while before I can give it network play.  TBH I'm not worried about lawsuits of any kind at this point.  Like I said, it won't compete with guild wars.
 * As far as I know I think it's legal as long as both of the following conditions are present


 * Shard doesn't directly take a sizable portion or skill names from Guild Wars(having 2 or 3 similar or same skill names or functionalities could be overlooked as coincidence but if a large percentage of skill names and functionalities are copied then it may be a problem)


 * Shard does not use the Guild Wars skill icons or artwork as artwork is probably copyrighted.

Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm not an expert at this but this is what I'm thinking as a result of this discussion. I'm guessing that you should be okay if you make your own skill icons/artwork and try to avoid copying the exact skill functionalities71.174.18.132 12:56, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Anet has stated that they won't persue legal options if people decide to make emulators like GWLP, as long as people don't have access to things they can't get in GW (like they can't use dervishes without nightfall). Also, this project is non-commercial, and won't have online play for a long time.  Anet will lose more money hiring a lawyer than they will to just let me do what I want.  If I decide to market a final version, I can strip out the GW rules.  ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 21:48, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I got an idea, how about no "expansion professions" or equivalent stuff in your emulator. For one thing, that means you don't have to worry about players accessing features they haven't paid Anet for. For another thing, it makes balancing easier. You're supposed to be more intelligent from Anet. Let's learn from their mistakes and NOT make stupid broken expansion professions at all.
 * Tbh, get on MSN more. I'm wondering if we couldn't merge this with my MMO project. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 21:51, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I will later tonight, I have class in a bit and just passing some time. ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 21:57, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Flames on izzy's page
Ok, you are obviously unhappy with the way Izzy is doing his job. We all get that. However, the continuing flaming posts on his page need to stop. If you want to tell him how badly you think he's doing, using whatever language you choose to use, email him. Don't put it on his talk page, in the feedback pages,or anywhere else on this wiki. Your posts are counter productive and only encourage others. At this point, if you don't have anything constructive to say, don't say anything at all. -- Wyn 03:40, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * At this point, there is nothing constructive to say. It's all been said and nothing's been done. --71.229.253.172 03:42, 5 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Whyn, it doesn't make a difference, and Shard has the uncanny capability of adding useful information in his edits. Leave it be. 75.182.89.73 04:04, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It's Wyn, and besides, just because he posts useful information, if they're cloaked in flaming and insults, they have no place on the wiki. Period. Kokuou 04:06, 5 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Don't be a zealot. He has a right to post here just as much as you do, and his "flaming and insulting" isn't half as bad as you're making it out to be.
 * Also, sorry, unconscious typo after seeing too much whyning. 75.182.89.73 04:17, 5 October 2008 (UTC)


 * While thats true flaming and baiting doesn't add to the conversation at all. If you think it does your wrong. Dominator Matrix  04:18, 5 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Nothing's going to add to the bloody conversation anyway; ANet's not going to read what Shard posts at any point, but if they do, I'd rather they get a hint of what they've done to their game. 75.182.89.73 04:20, 5 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Could you give me one good reason why A.Net cares about anything on izzy's page especially since hes not doing the balancing anymore? Dominator Matrix  04:22, 5 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Pretty sure that, even if that were in any way related, Izzy's still the game balancer. 75.182.89.73 04:24, 5 October 2008 (UTC)


 * At this point I do believe they've gotten the hint since none of it has been hinted at but rather screamed from the rooftop at the top of Shard's lungs for the past several months. However, I will stand by my statement that this wiki is NOT the place for it. It belongs in a forum somewhere or an email directly to ArenaNet. As Dominator stated above, baiting other users into ranting and raving doesn't add to the conversation, it just creates drama that is unproductive. You say that nothing is going to change... I agree. So just accept it, and move on, don't drag everyone into the muck. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 04:26, 5 October 2008 (UTC)


 * But, you see, ANet set this up so players could talk to the devs. This is the kind of thing they have to deal with anyway - not to mention the lack of grounds for its removal in the first place. "This edit was unproductive and angerful, therefore we'll remove it!" Great, now go ahead and delete the entire arenanet and guild namespaces, as there's nothing productive in either of those. 75.182.89.73 04:30, 5 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I am standing by my removal of the Dear Anet post on the spoil victor feedback page. If you disagree, then take it to another admin for review. As stated in my initial post here, that type of post has no place on this wiki, and can easily be seen as a violation of GWW:NPA against ArenaNet employees, most of whom are users of this wiki. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 04:34, 5 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry, but no other admin will care either, simply because none of you realize the intention behind NPA. 75.182.89.73 04:36, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Saying someone sucks at their job is not a personal attack, especially when it's pretty much common knowledge. ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 05:26, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It's common knowledge that he sucks at his job. Updates favors only GvG and HB, there are over dozens of bugged skills that when guildwars started haven't being fixed yet, there are attributes that are not effective in any arena, he keeps track of only GvG and HB,etc. Even the sysops know it. They were inform ahead of time of the Smiter's Boon changed and were online to move all the comment from his page... they knew that actions as this one makes wikis post hate statement against him, why? Awful decision at his table when making a game, we buy a product just to realize it wasn't even properly tested before release and it makes everyone ponder why he is in charge of GW2? Know this, GW is a good game but almost half of it cant be used(skills, elite areas,etc.) or nor offer nothing for your effort. It will be very surprising if they get a successful launch when GW2 comes. For me, Im not buying it. Really, GW2 is dead as far I'm concern. Making GW 1 awful to sucker people to GW2? What an awful strategy.--ShadowFog 06:12, 5 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I seriously doubt the admins were warned ahead of time about the smiter's boon nerf; they're just fucking ninja.
 * Also, yeah, loads of people have given up on GW2 already...
 * 75.182.89.73 06:14, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It's going to be another 2 or 3 years before it even releases, I don't think they're ruining GW1 intentionally. Their hook to GW2 is titles, not making GW1 boring.  I really believe they're just inept.  ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 06:14, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * So if I use your reasoning Shard, I could say that you suck at skill balancing, and it wouldn't be a personal attack, because it is common knowledge among people who DO know what they're talking about? It's all a matter of opinion, even when it's about Izzy. 87.210.150.58 09:25, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Wrong mr IP izzy has made so many mistakes and so manly players have SAID it yet he doesnt fix it.WS,WoD,... He to stubborn to check what other ppl think which results in this.Now first of all not everyone knows shard (not everyone that matters) so it isnt common knowledge and you dont have an argument Why shard is bad shard has an argument WHY izzy is bad. Lilondra  [[Image:User_Lilondra_Eviscerate.jpg|19x19px]] *poke*  16:31, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I have just 2 points to make...1: I agree with Shard and I support his right to voice his outrage on what a lousy job Anet has done at maintaining their game. 2: Anyone who puts themselves up as a represenative of something--example Gray Davis was governor of California during the "rolling blackouts" and power crisis in 2000-2003 which partly resulted in him being recalled as Gov. The public, often being fickle and uninformed did not realize it was his predacessor, Pete Wilson, who signed deregulation into law which caused the blackouts to occur, however, Davis, as the active face and represenative of California as a whole, took the hit, criticizm and outrage. Izzy is in a similar position as a figurehead for Anet. Its part of his job, and unfortunately, if he cannot stand any criticizm or insults, perhaps he should tattle to the playground teacher. Please people, hearing things you don't always like is a part of life.-- *Yasmin Parvaneh* [[Image:User_yasmin_parvaneh_sig.png]] 16:51, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Life != wiki. Take your complaints elsewhere; this isn't anyone's soapbox or complaints department. "It's life, so deal with it" doesn't apply here. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|18px|]] Brains12 \ talk 17:01, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I would like to add that repeatedly telling someone they suck at their job, and telling them to resign, and telling their boss to fire them because something they have done has made you unhappy is actually a pretty direct personal attack, and no matter how many times you say it isn't because it's what everyone thinks, you would continue to be wrong. If someone were to come to your talk page and continually tell you you suck at playing the game and all your ideas are crap and you should just leave because you have nothing to offer, you would want it to be considered a personal attack, or at least case of trolling and want something done about it. Comparing Izzy to a politician is like comparing a grape to a walnut so just stop. Your reasoning is based on flawed logic. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 17:22, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * First, you're combining both my statements and Shard's. I've never said anything about Izzy, or him being fired or anything of the like, don't throw me in a similar catagory. Second, read Shard's archive, people tell him his ideas are bad all the time, and argue with him in a similar fashion. Third, Shard is a friend of mine, so I am not trolling by defending his position and certain opinions he may take. Forth who cares if he's wrong. The two of you seem to have some power here, so remove his comments or do whatever is in your policy to do. Fifth and finally, if you read what I said, you would have seen my point is that with a represenative job such as Izzy's he is bound to take criticizm and insults. I even have a quote from him--ironically enough it was a reply to something Shard said, where he even states its a part of his job he has to deal with and have a sense of humor about-- *Yasmin Parvaneh* [[Image:User_yasmin_parvaneh_sig.png]] 02:50, 6 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Yet those insults are against the rules of the wiki. Ask for a revision of that rule if you don't like it. As for my earlier comment about Shard's balancing qualities, I have said for a long time that I'd quit the game if Shard were the balancer. To me, he doesn't have an open mind and in many ways, doesn't know what he is talking about. Maybe I am wrong, maybe I am not, but I am not calling Shard names. 145.94.74.23 07:09, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * No, telling someone they suck at their job, then PROVING IT, is not a personal attack, it's a fact. I can't post facts on wiki?  What universe did I fall into?
 * People come to my page and tell me I'm bad at balance all the time, usually without a reason. If I can't post facts with backup telling izzy he's bad at his job, why should anyone else do it to me?  In fact, since I got banned for it, maybe I should make a list of 40 or 50 people who have ever disagreed with me.  They should be banned too according to your godly logic skills.
 * Frankly, I think the idea that what I did somehow violates the NPA disgusts me. Should we all vote for Bush again because he did such a wonderful job these past 8 years?  Should we tell a weather forecaster he's amazing after he predicts heavy downpours, and it's sunny all day?  It's the fucking weather's fault, right?  Let's tell a cancer patient they have 200 more years to live.  Let's tell his doctor it's okay to lie to your patients, you can suck at your job and still get paid because your control-freak friends will cover for you.
 * I don't know who's telling you to censor good, legitimate ideas just because they put one person's neglect of a job at stake. I'm pretty sure me being the only person banned for posting relevant info on izzy's page isn't a random event.
 * In any case, I emailed Arenanet about this and they told me directly to post my concerns here, so that's what I'm doing. A personal attack is (and I do not mean these) "he's stupid, he's ugly, he's fat" or whatever it may be.  "He is bad at his job and here's my proof and I don't have anything against him personally" is NOT a personal attack in this universe.  If some random communist at anet says it is, they're wrong.  All I'm doing is posting facts, and if you look hard enough, you wont find ONE personal attack since my last block a long time ago.  ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 22:53, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Then your proof has to be accepted by every person on this wiki as true, and I know there are quite a few people who disagree with you. The issues you bring up are not neccesarily proof of the fact that Izzy sucks at his job, just that some things don't work the way you'd want them to. Secondly, this is not real life, this is this wiki. This wiki has rules and you broke them. If you don't like those rules, you can ask for them to be changed. Personally, I must say that the content of your posts is often meaningful, but you manage to wrap them up in such an offensive writing style that you offend the people that you're trying to reach out to. Would you listen to a person who said you suck at game balance in every single post he makes? 145.94.74.23 07:47, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't. However, at least I'd doubt what I did. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 08:01, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll drop it from here on. Sorry to bother you on your own userpage. 145.94.74.23 10:51, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Since when does everyone have to accept a proof to make it true? I've run into people who've argued to me that 1 = 2 and then gave some convoluted proof and tried to tell me they were right. (They ended up dividing by a-a at one point, as I recall.) Likewise, people are going to argue against obviously true proofs even when they're clearly wrong - there's always going to be idiots. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 16:58, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Exactly. If everyone has to accept proof for something to be true, then religion trumps every law of science.  There are some people who believe the earth is flat.  That doesn't mean the earth isn't round.  Nice try though.  ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 21:39, 9 October 2008 (UTC)