Talk:Unwaking Waters

Times in HM?
I did Master in 8:57. with henchies (Extremly short of whiping however- PvE skills like Pain Inverter FTW) there is no extra table for hm, does this mean you also need <15 minutes to get masters there? —Zerpha The Improver 17:47, 16 October 2007 (UTC) 8:12 with 2 humans, no allied humans from luxon side. SS necro with pain inverter and sniper support, Jagger bomber, xinrae n/rt, a SF nuker, an interrupting mes, a ranger, a tanker warrior and a monk. =] 81.110.191.239 13:20, 30 October 2008 (UTC) I did master in 6:29. With Sabway heros and henchies no players on luxon side, I was SS with Pain Inverter Necrosis and Sniper Support, brought a rit, monk, warrior and fire ele henchmen with me easy. :) 69.14.228.169 21:33, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I got 5:43 with Sabway and consumes. -Chiri
 * Sorry but I got it in 1:41 and here is the proof forgot to sign --DarthD 03:26, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I got it in 1:40. A new world's record:-P --24.45.47.32 16:18, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
 * 1:36. Heh. 69.249.223.63 19:07, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Just got 1:25 from the Luxon side dodging the afflicted at the start. :D --Bramblefeet 17:26, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Glitch?
The final barrier is accompanied by a large group of Afflicted with two bosses in it. Not sure if this is a glitch or just sheer dumb luck, but I bypassed them by staying far back and pelting Kuunavang whenever he patrolled near me. If I ever feel like doing Unwaking Waters again, I'll experiment to see if it's repeatable. KrelusDerian 17:14, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Simple Masters Victory
Use Ursan Blessing. Takes Kunavaang down fast, and is effective interrupt. <7 min total time. IrishRedneck 17:10, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I used heroes and hench and no elite skills on anyone and managed to do it in 12mins, i was hoping it would be a harder mission >_< 76.26.189.65 01:34, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * NM Discordway time 1:06
 * 2 synced teams of discord, 1.41 DarthD 07:09, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I used the following and completed in 5:57!!! EASY! N/A=OABEQRpmeL1LeIIzMGUGA0UyUFA - Gwen=OQNEAVcyObohckBP8higiYC - Vekk=OgNDgsOMH0KcCzbFrccLmA - Ogden=Owgk0sPI0COTJBkkTyIzkVy3MmA + 4 henchies(Ele,Heal,ranger,prot) 75.133.161.9 19:24, 5 March 2010 (UTC)Raku Kotau
 * Used my normal 7 heroes and did it from the Luxon side in 3:00 exactly. Seemed a little too easy even for normal mode. Other team was henchies. Darwin Iznang 23:19, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Carries Over?
I did this mission on Kurzick side and got Masters, then went on to finish the game. I went back and did the Luxon side of the story and, when I got to Unwaking Waters (Luxon) found that it was completed as Masters. I asked a guildie who said she had done Kurzick side but not beaten the game, and just gotten to Unwaking Waters (Luxon). She said it wasn't completed for her. Glitch? Or is it supposed to be like that for people who've beaten the game? --Gah The  Epic  01:59, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * No matter which outpost you start the mission from, whatever reward you get should show for both towns. Same for Vizunah Square. If it's not showing for her, then it may be a bug.--Pyron Sy 02:06, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

When other team leaves
I did this mission yesterday and the other team had one person with henchmen. He or she left at the start of the mission before the timer went off. When the timer ended, I expected the henchmen to simply follow me, but instead they all instantly died. I don't recall seeing this behavior before and always thought the extra henchmen would just follow the other team like regular henchmen. Tedium 08:28, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Scales leveling up
I was doing this mission and we got into the room with Kuunavang and our team got wipped and the scales leveled up.

Dont know if it should be added to notes or not. ·•· Cr yp to  ·•· 20:45, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Faction?
Just finished doing mish from Luxon side and received no faction, Luxon or Kurzick. It would seem that you only receive the faction reward once, but can raise faction cap for both Kurzick and Luxon doing it from both sides. So the note on this page about that being unclear should be changed I think. --Sardaukar 13:07, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

I finished the aread while it was under Kurzick control and received Kurzick factions for killings (from the priests blessing) but at the end received Luxon faction. Also at the end of the vanquish the area was still completely under Kurzick control. Pheronike 08:21, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Unortunately, the big bonus you're given at the end of a vanquish is based on the Faction that an area nominally belongs too, so all Jade Sea areas (including Unwaking Waters) will give Luxon bonus, regardless of controlling Faction. The same holds true back in Kurzick lands, you can vanquish and earn luxon faction from the blessing, but the vanquish bonus at the end will be Kurzick. I believe this "anomaly" has been noted in diccussion of the November 13 update -- BramStoker (talk, contribs)  10:54, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

I doubt the validity of any of the faction rewards for this one. My wife and I just did it in Hard Mode from the Kurzick side. We had always entered from the Luxon side before. We didn't raise our faction cap, but we did gain 3,000 Kurzick faction. --RoyHarmon 18:28, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Just completed this in HM for the first time, from the Kurzick side and got 3k Kurzick faction for it. I've completed it twice in normal mode before -- first Luxon side and then Kurzick side.  I don't remember what faction I got from previous completions, but this indicates to me that the note in the article is currently incorrect in some way.--Chump Chief 20:42, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The reward listing does not make sense. First says 1000 faction for each mode, then says you only get it once regardless of what mode. Ramei Arashi 00:59, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Just got the 3k faction again in HM (Kurzick NM and Kurzick HM). Doubt it can only be gained onceBeleeth 00:53, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Voice Glitch?
Ok, I was helping a friend of mine, a female rit, and i'm a male ranger. I was the group leader, and there was no other party from the luxon side, just a full team of henchies. When the final cut scene was shown, even though i was the group leader, my friend was shown as the person talking to kun...er..the dragon(can't spell the name, don't wanna try to and mess it up horribly). She was talking..but it was using the Male ranger voice. This happen to anyone else? It was kinda funny though >_> --216.119.178.127 01:32, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

very easy
i completed this mission in NM with just heros and henchies in 5:32. Its missions like these that really make me want records for the fastest times. This would definately bring repeating missions back to life and adds a bit of competition. but i suppose someone always has to complain about farming and all that

yeah this mish is a total joke. i just beat it without any of the mentioned strategies for the first time in less than 8 minutes. 71.145.135.228 16:25, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

2:02 with a friend and heroes. :D 141.165.170.172 02:01, 5 March 2010 (UTC)


 * 1:46 during a Blade Radio party. ;-) Ghosst  [[Image:User_Ghosst_Ghosst_Sig.jpg|19px|I Make Dead People]]  •  Talk  •
 * 1:49 in HM. :D Why can't all of Cantha be like this? --Bramblefeet 22:25, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

LOVE
I LOVE this mission, easy and yet challenging if you're not prepared....overall a fun mish imo  S entry007   23:45, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Love the soundtrack of this place from soundtrack cd too ! :D

Tip
After the 2nd gate the last 2 bosses spawn and charge you. Well don't go through the gate and the bosses (them alone, no other foes) will charge at you, giving an ideal situation to deal with them. -- Chan, 11:32, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Doing mission with one team
I just finished this mission by myself (Kurzick), with no Luxon team present. There was no message that the other player had left the game either. I also only met one boss before the final fight with Kuunavang. Has this mission been changed so it's soloable if noone is on the other side? -- Hong 16:42, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I think I see what happened... the NPC team got wiped before I reached them. I put it down to RoJ shenanigans. -- Hong 05:08, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Well that's got to suck, lol. Green Arrow 21:49, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Cutscene Glitch?
In the initial Harvest Ceremony cutscene, you can catch a glimpse of your party while the emperor and Shiro are making their way to the temple. That, or your heroes, I only noticed M.O.X. because he stood out, but my friend who was with me noticed our guild cape in there somewhere, can someone just add this as a bug please? Also, at the ending cutscene, I was the leader of the party, and the luxons were allies, no players, and it was my friend who was talking, is this another bug? - ShadowKidZ
 * Hey, it's me before I knew how to sign ^_^. The sad part is no one has answered still and the sadder part is I still don't know how to put up bugs. Taros 03:09, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The second bug you mention may be the gender-swap with the 'party leader' boss at the end cinematic. It's a noted bug on the mission page, so I think it's logged... either that or that jade air makes female voiceboxes break ;) glasnt &lt;3 09:56, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Invinicicrab?
Mean and an ally were doing the kurzick side in hm, and since no one was on the other side, we got the henchies, Hector, Aurora's crab, could not die. Me and one hero (everyone else died) beat it with masters because he always used chain lightning on the crab, so the only damage was from spores. 96.245.80.116 16:38, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Epicly Easy


Really, I was afraid of doing this mission in HM. But my cousin and I did it in 1:52 xD The Falling One 18:20, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Kurzick faction cap note
Added note regarding Kurzick faction cap increase.

Also, I've finished factions via Kurzicks missions, then got back to this mission when completing a storybook and started it from Luxon side, did receive the 7k Luxon faction cap increase even though I have yet to even attempt Gyala Hatchery X.x Guess Im missing something in here.

Faction can be gained for both Lux / Kurz and then again in HM for both too. Beleeth 06:25, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Bug note
Did the mission today, female Mesmer, I didn't get the voice bug.

Could people playing the other listed professions/gender verify if this has been fixed? 81.206.17.230 12:59, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Synchronized swimming
I removed the bug tag and changed the note about synchronization:


 * It's not clear that the developers cared whether two groups coordinated entry into the mission. Obviously, this matters in PvP, but (esp. given how easily veterans can do this in HM using h/h and a no-player party from the other side) it hardly seems to matter.
 * You cannot guarantee synching. Sometimes, you do not get a countdown timer and you are transported instantly into the mission. When that happens, the other team almost always includes humans and it would seem churlish to resign (and force them to restart) simply because your team wanted to synch.

— Tennessee Ernie Ford ( TEF ) 16:28, 1 June 2011 (UTC)