Talk:Devona

Sword
Interesting that they did that very nice render of her using a sword, when she only uses a hammer in-game Fox 11:11, 1 April 2007 (EDT)
 * Yeah, it is. The early renders of Devona resemble Farrah Cappo more closely than anyone else, funnily enough. --Santax 11:12, 1 April 2007 (EDT)
 * She originally dual wielded swords (see proph cinematic) - FireFox [[Image:firefoxav.png]] 09:30, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

GWEN
Uses different skills in GWEN, including: Backbreaker, Bull's strike, and None Shall Pass. Can get a screenie if needed--Ryudo 08:51, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

I find that talon stays alive longer in eye of the north - is that just me or is it a fact??? --DragonStorm 08:01, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Price of Failure
Does she really use PoF in the Norn fighting tournament? I came across her twice,, I think, but I think she has Backbreaker, not PoF. Besides, it would make her a W/A/N. dominique ·  (talk)  06:56, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't think I've ever seen her use it...but I'm truthfully not sure. 06:14, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Wandering off
Countless times Devonna just wanders off to any foe nearby even when flagged, has this happened to anyone else? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:65.33.248.77 (talk).
 * Didn't notice anything particularly different with Devona and the other warrior henchies. -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png| ]] 13:53, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Revert war
Apparently, there is constant reverting on her presearing skills. I don't know what the deal is, but could we discuss it here and come to some sort of agreement? Backsword 02:49, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

weapon and armor stats
Does anyone know what stats her hammer has when she's level 20? And if it has mods? And the same goes for her armor: does it have insignia's, and if so, which ones? I'd like to know that for all henchmen...Sjeng 14:58, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It's not possible to figure what mods it has since we only have the skin to go with. -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png| ]] 00:51, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes but perhaps somebody knows the general mods on all henchmen's weapons. Like, are they customized to them? Do they have 15^50 or HP+30 or sundering mods? Are they clean? Same for armor: clean or with insignia's/runes? I'd like to know... Sjeng 11:16, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * We can't see henchmen damage numbers, that's why I said it's not possible. -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png| ]] 01:23, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Second profession
With the new update Devona is Now a W/N/A. I suggest we only put the primary profession in the infobox. --M age M ontu 07:42, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Evaluation
I think that consensus should be reached on the evaluation section prior to any further subjective opinions being posted. What one person sees as a pro, another is labeling as garbage. I do not wish this to turn into a revert war, since it appears to be happening on several of the henchmen pages since the update. -- Wyn  talk  12:21, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I think the notes about insignias are not needed in my opinion. Since when the henchmen were meant to be good? Use heroes if you're not happy -.-
 * And the notes about deep wound are really redundant when Can't inflict conditions is already there! - J.P. [[Image:User J.P. Halloween sig.png| ]] Talk   12:40, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I reverted again, I already gave my reasoning below as to why healing signet is bad, and it was reflected on the page too. I want the reasons for disputing this. --Qwertyasdf 11:16, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Cons...
"Healing Signet is garbage." Highly objective article, obviously. Should be edited somehow. --70.158.147.170 21:48, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes. It's also an opinion. Plus, healing signet is the only warrior-primary self heal available. Even if it were garbage, it's that or nothing. Edited. ~ [[Image:Signet of Devotion.jpg|WELL HELLO|19px]] Chao  23:35, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Not an opinion, self heal is a waste, they stop dealing damage to heal themselves (and could end up taking more damage with healing sig) while the hench or hero or player monk will end up healing them anyway. --Qwertyasdf 05:45, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Seeing it has been reverted several times now Qwertyasdf, I would consider consensus to be against you. Please do not replace the statement. -- Wyn [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon2.png|19px ]] talk  11:29, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The only argument I see is "Yes. It's also an opinion. Plus, healing signet is the only warrior-primary self heal available. Even if it were garbage, it's that or nothing". And I've already reasoned that having nothing (or quite a few other warrior skills) in the slot is better than healing signet . So instead of just reverting my edits, dispute my reasoning first. --Qwertyasdf 02:16, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay fine I changed my wording from 'garbage' to 'not good'. Happy? Damn revert nazis. --Qwertyasdf 02:29, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I have to agree with Qwert, it is garbage. PS: Lion's Comfort-- Unending fear  User Unendingfear Crane eats peanut.jpg 02:31, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It's in cons. What more do you want? 68.163.164.56 02:32, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The problem isn't with calling Healsig garbage, it's your assertion that monks will always heal Devona while she's using it. A) What if you have no monks? B) What if the team has more damaged members than just Devona? C) You could say the same thing about any self-healing skill in the game. [[Image:User_Felix_Omni_Signature.png]]elix Omni 02:38, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Healing Signet is bad on a henchman. Honestly, self-heals are only good in PvP, where there is a common need to split(AB/CM/GvG) where you need the self-survivability. In PvE, you don't have silly splitting, except in extremely rare circumstances like the tower defense mission in nightfall, where healing signet will be outdamaged by mobs anyway. Simply put, it's not worth it, anytime, anywhere in PvE. Pika Fan 06:47, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

well my opinion of healing sig is that it's better then nothing and when shit hits the fan and your healers are dead, having a self heal might make a difference between staying alive and a wipe, saying that i wouldn't write it as a pro cause it's just that, an opinion, and should'nt be on a page based on fact, therefore stating something as "bad" or "not good" is something also that shouldn't be said here, the fact that that it reduce armor for more damage can stay, also the part saying it lower you dps is not a fair statment because A) you can't dps while your dead, and then fact that you group probaly has enough dps to kill each mob that an extra dps skill might not be use too often (i hate skill slots that don't get used, seems like a waste), so you might as well put in another skill or those "oh shit" moment, imo. I would also like to say that endure pain is better then then healing sig, again another opininon, im removing the "not good" and dps comment --BobbyT 18:54, 31 October 2009 (UTC)


 * For one thing, my comment about Healing Signet being the only available self heal for warrior primary was stated for her proph and factions skill bars -- where Lion's Comfort isn't available. Whether or not a self heal is "good or bad" in PvE, PvP, or wherever, is an opinion; this is why you don't see notes on other henchmen saying "Cons: this healer is shitty," etc. The original notes about healing signet on warrior henchmen prior to the skill bar revamp update were about the lowered armor during activation, which is as close to "healsig is garbage" as a valid note can really get. The Wiki isn't here to express opinions of users (aside from on the discussion pages). ~ [[Image:Signet of Devotion.jpg|WELL HELLO|19px]] Chao  21:04, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Quote from manuscripts
I noticed that quote from Guild Wars manuscripts doesn't match 100% (minor differences, idea is still same). Is there difference between Guild Wars manuscript and Guild Wars Special Edition manuscript? Also, in Factions manuscript the description is a bit updated, but not sure if it would be good here since it's more.. well.. Factions themed (unlike description of King Jalis Ironhammer from EotN manuscripts that doesn't focus that much on one chapter/expansion).

Just for reference..

From Guild Wars Special Edition manuscripts

From Factions manuscripts

PS: that thing in "only a little girl at the time but, since that day" in first quote is not my mistake. Taken straight from manuscripts

Suiv 04:00, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Postergirl for earthshaker.
I never realized how handy Earthshaker was until I saw Devona singlehandedly knock down 6 titans at the same time that were attacking her. Plus, she is the only hammer hench. If only she brought For Great Justice to build adrenaline.

Thanks, and great work!
Wow, just noticed now that the biography I started on once the biography I started on once has been revised and implemented on this site. Thanks for completing "Childhood" and "Youth", and great work on tyding up and improving my text! :)

p.s. I think someone should do this on all our "heroes"; Aidan, Cynn, Menhlo and Eve - but I'm afraid it's not going to be me...

-- Titus The Third 15:40, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Someday, I intend to add as much about all major NPCs which don't have much - those four and Devona being the main ones. Someday. -- Konig / talk 18:00, 16 October 2010 (UTC)


 * "Someday" ... Great minds think alike! ;) -- Titus The Third [[Image:User titus the third.png| ]] 09:12, 25 October 2010 (UTC)