Talk:The Hero's Challenge

Completing a Ghost Quest
Just to comment on Thulsey's note in the history, you do need to finish one of the ghost's secondary profession quests. After you complete the quest before this one, whenever you talk to Vanyi to obtain this quest, she will prompt you to return to the Crystal Desert and seek out and finish one of the tasks those ghosts have asked. Only until then will she allow you to take up this quest. -- Talonz  // 01:59, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Correct. I think what I objected to before was it made it sound like a player had to do them all, not just one. I should have probably corrected rather than deleted, but I honestly didn't remember at the time what the exact requirement was. Thanks for clarifying. - Thulsey  [[Image:User Thulsey good.gif|Zheng]] - talk 02:27, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I've found a bug. If you've bought all the secondary professions, it won't let you do the secondary profession quests, which means you can't do this quest. I had to remake my warrior because of this, I bought all the secondary professions at ToB, but it wouldn't let me take this quest. I'm suprised nobody's noticed this. --Ghostbuddy 17:42, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Why buy them all when u can get some for free from a quest.The gold u spent on the proffesions could have been used to save black moa chicks :( --Super Range Ranger 17:42, 8 July 2008
 * This might need confirming but I managed to pick this quest up as soon as I hit Droknar's with my Warrior. I didn't do any of the secondary profession changing quests, however I did 'unlock' other professions at the Temple of Balthazar. Also did the Factions campaign too if that would change anything (Prophecies character). Feragore 15:02, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Are u sure u didnt change ur secondary with Senji(profession changer).He is the only way to change ur secondary proffesion in cantha from what i know so that might have something to do with it Super Range Ranger Cow 10:46, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I did one of those ghosts challenge, I still can't get the quest. This is realy pissing me off... I've done all it requires and stuff. Why ccan't I still get it?--84.202.1.30 15:22, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok I seem to be in the same boat as Ghostbuddy...I have purchased all the secondaries from GToB after doing Napui Quarter in Factions. I have since got Ascended, done A Hero's Journey, and just for good measure did Mesmer Path quest, and Vanyi still won't offer the quest.  Am I indeed screwed out of 15 attrib points?  Help Plz!  (Usaf1a8xx 17:14, 26 July 2010 (UTC))
 * I made my Ele 22mo ago...I thought my origional Secondary was Ranger, but must've been Mesmer, cuz i just switched to Warrior and mapped back to Droks and now she offers the quest...but I did change my secondary several times before doing Mesmer's Path and she did not offer the quest. She only offered it once I had done Mesmer's Path.  So I think maybe if you've bought all the professions from a changer, then you must do a secondary profession quest to get her to offer this quest.  (Usaf1a8xx 17:20, 26 July 2010 (UTC))

The quest-box info here is incorrect btw (can someone fix it?), you do not have to complete The Hero's Journey to get the quest The Hero's Challenge. Ander01 19:04, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Requirements
The You have changed Secondary profession at least once, via a Profession changer...., isn't working for me. I completed The Hero's Journey, changed my secondary at GToB, but she won't give me this quests. Prior to Ascending in the Desert, I changed my secondary at Senji's Corner, maybe that has something to do with it... Oh wait, is that what the peeps above are talking about? Confuzzled.... -- Arduinna  11:26, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, okay, you need to complete one of the 'Path' quests to make her give you this quests. Editing the Page accordingly. -- Arduinna [[Image:User_Arduinna_Companionship.jpg|15px|talk]] 11:35, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I've read the discussions above, and I have my own quirk to add. On a Proph character I ascended, completed The Hero's Journey, then I used the Profession Changer in GotB to change to Ele/Dervish. She now gives me the quest without doing any of the profession path quests. Albrect Karew 02:36, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I figured out the problem people, such as Arduinna or Ghostbuddy (from the above section), are having. If a character didn't complete any of the "'s Path" quests, but received another secondary profession from a Profession changer, Vanyi won't give you this quest unless your character had a different secondary profession than the one that was chosen during A Second Profession in pre-searing. To fix this all you have to do is change your secondary profession to another one in the Skills and Attributes Panel. This is why it worked for Albrect Karew, he changed the secondary profession for his Ele to Dervish and spoke to Vanyi while his character was E/D to get this quest; however, if he had changed the secondary profession back to its original secondary profession (the one chosen in A Second Profession) Vanyi wouldn't offer this quest to his character. --Silver Edge 09:29, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * This isn't conclusive. I had trouble getting this quest as an E/A (clearly not my original secondary profession, which was Me). I had all 5 The x's Path quests active, and had unlocked all secondary professions at the changer. I swapped secondary profession and changed district, no luck. I did The Necromancer's Path and swapped to secondary necro (with the quest awarder), no luck. I've finally gotten the quest after traveling to Destiny's Gorge and talking to Annelle Fipps (I thought maybe I already did this quest and didn't start the Forgotten Wisdom questline; she didn't offer me any quest related dialogue, of course), which makes no sense at all.--24.201.17.160 07:23, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 * So you were able to receive this quest after talking to Annelle Fipps and then returning to Vanyi? --Silver Edge 07:26, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I wasn't able to get the quest as a E/D, so I went to the prof changer in Isle of Balthazaar and switched to ranger and was able to get the quest from Sanyi then. I attempted none of the path quests.--Daisya 17:15, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Sanyi Sticking.
My Sanyi will not stop getting stuck. The first time, she froze randomly in the middle of nowhere. Then she started loving up on the stump mentioned in the bug. Perhaps Anet should make her use the /stuck emote every 10 seconds? :P 209.240.183.45 19:12, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

No Need for heroes journey
as you can see in the image, i didn't need to finish hero's journey for this quest.

Requirements of A Hero's Journey
Is it or isn't it, because I've done the 1st attribute quest on my warrior, went to get this attribute quest, but I get given a different quest instead. Incase it will help/hinder, my warrior has access to all secondaries and hasn't done the profession quests.--Im Irrelevant 18:31, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Corrected the information on the side. It is possible to have both quests active in some circumstances, but for the people who need this information, Hero's Challenge is preceded by Hero's Journey.  Koda  [[Image:User_Koda_Kumi_UT.jpeg‎|19px]]  Kumi  19:16, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The Hero's Journey doesn't precede The Hero's Challenge, because you don't need to complete Hero's Journey to receive Hero's Challenge. You can complete Hero's Challenge before completing Hero's Journey. --Silver Edge 01:23, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * After completing The Hero's Journey, were you able to get The Hero's Challenge? You most likely weren't able to receive The Hero's Challenge quest because of what your secondary profession was set to when you spoke to the quest giver. See my post in the section above or the Anomaly in the Notes section. --Silver Edge 01:23, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * My mistake, notes were correct, I changed my profession after entering Droknar's Forge and managed to get the quest.--Im Irrelevant 01:38, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Quite possible. I never changed my profession prior to The Hero's Journey quest with a proph character. Though I am wondering if it is possible to do Hunted! or Closer to the Stars instead of Augury Rock to get the Hero's Challenge quest.  Koda  [[Image:User_Koda_Kumi_UT.jpeg‎|19px]]  Kumi  21:30, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

I would think that, prior to the existence of Factions or Nightfall, that The Hero's Journey was a requirement to get The Hero's Challenge. Thus for the storyline, it would seem that The Hero's Journey does precede The Hero's Challenge. Lord Mondegreen 21:25, 31 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Maybe, but this is about gameplay requirements. It is NOT necessary to even have accepted the Journey. My toon Ascended in Factions, I changed professions through a profession changer. I came to the desert later to pick up the attribute point quest there and gave myself the tour of all outposts. When I finally came to Droknar's Forge I could pick up both the Journey and Challenge at the same time. The Journey is NOT needed, all that seems to be required is having visited at least one of the desert outposts and having the second secondary profession at least once (thus requiring Ascension as well). The text can clarify that. This requirement is also not true for Prophecies only toons since the GToB also has a profession changer.--Fogeltje 10:27, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
 * My Ascalon toon is LVL 20, just ascended, purchased all professions @ senji's, currently a Monk/Paragon but have run through all the others, tried talking before I picked up the quests (contrary to what was said earlier, I was able to pick up the quests even though I have all unlocked) and after. Still can not get the quest. Being as this particular anomaly is not consistant, any mention about it possibly happening should NOT be under the "requirements" header. If it were a reliable method to side step a requirement then I am all for it being there. -UPDATE- I am getting scared. I just completed the quest to become the elemenalist... no quest offer. Completed the mesmer's quest, There it is... Whew!

Just to add, in case others are still having trouble: My Ascalon Toon was initially W/Mo, and unlocked Ele, Sin, Rit, Para, Derv in either Senji's or GToB (I can't remember which, sorry). Augury Rock is complete and I did the dragon's lair this morning (I am ascended, but had completed Napui and Hunted! prior to doing the Lair, if that matters). Went to Droks to get The Heroes Challenge as a W/Ele, but was only offered The Heroes Journey quest (NOT the attribute point quest). While still in the town, I tried changing my secondary back to the original monk, then my other unlocked secondaries. Still no Heroes Challenge quest offered... I went back to the desert, walked to Heroes Audience, and completed The Necromancer's path (I'd never been to Seeker's Passage, so completing a Heroes Journey was inconvenient at the moment). Returned to Droks as a W/N. The Heroes Challenge was still not offered, but the dialogue for Heroes Journey was still active (not completed). I went pack to the desert and completed the Heroes Journey by walking to Seeker's Passage. Returned to Droks and received the quest reward for Heroes journey. The Heroes challenge was STILL not offered, but I now had the extended dialogue options for those who completed a heroes Journey (encouraged to go talk with ghosts... again). While in Droks, I tried changing professions through the drop down menu. Still no Heroes Challenge quest offered. I went back to the desert and finished The Mesmer's Path. Returned to Droks and now the Heroes Challenge quest is offered... I hope that helps you guys riddle out the requirements for the quest, it was confusing to me, but to be honest I'm very bad at this wiki stuff. If it's not helpful, feel free to delete this. 97.120.230.80 18:40, 14 May 2011 (UTC)