Feedback talk:Game updates/20100415

If all this shining blade mantle stuff is just to sell some damn costumes, then fuck this bullshit 68.93.105.247 21:14, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Guild wars is all about micropayments, what did you think a PR campaign would be about?--TahiriVeila 21:15, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Nobody is forcing you to buy them... Haruno Midori [[Image:User_HarunoMidori_signature_img.png|19px]] 21:16, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I also want to have some meaningful updates besides Nickel and dime wars 68.93.105.247 21:17, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Maybe the good updates will come once GW2 is out. Previously Unsigned 21:18, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Is this... it? Disappointment. :( 98.20.65.236 21:19, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Can't really blame a company for trying to make money. Just don;t buy the costumes if you don;t want them. I'm sure they care. BlazeRick 21:22, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The main content update won't be happening until the anniversary celebration. Everything until then is just leading up to that. Give it a rest. -- Wyn [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon2.png|19px ]] talk  21:23, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * People cant seem to get that these items are not because Arenanet is trying to Nickle and Dime us, its because they are adding new content to the game, and they are letting the players "Join in" on it. Costumes are merely iceing to the cake, just like the BMP and the bonus items that you can get from the special editions. Their ment for Entertainment and Pleasure for the purchaser.--Neithan Diniem User Neithan Diniem Sig.png]] 21:25, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * BMP was content, three missions you could play in, new weapons art, for 10 bucks. All this is are 2 outfits that make character look pretty. Content is interactive, this isnt 68.93.105.247 21:29, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * . 5th anniversary isn't here yet. Stop being bad, stop crying over something you haven't payed for, for like, 3 years already. Like Wyn said, give it a rest BlazeRick 21:37, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * For the record, they did pay for it. ArenaNet's model is the one time payment for the game to play the game.  Other games having a model of "Monthly fees" has no bearing on ArenaNet's model and what the players paid for.  So even if a player hasn't purchased anything from ArenaNet for over a year, they still reserve the right to voice their opinion as they are a customer of ArenaNet and ArenaNet's business model. So instead of actually backing ArenaNet you are the one arguing against ArenaNet's Business Model and thus against ArenaNet.  ~ 98.236.96.24 00:27, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict)Some people are perfectly fine spending spare change to do that, also. I honestly dont see why people put such a fuss over these types of things. If you dont like it, then just ignore the update and dont buy them.--Neithan Diniem User Neithan Diniem Sig.png]] 21:39, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) @68.93.105.247: You are aware of the 5th anniversary coming up, aren't you? This wasn't all hype for a few costumes (which, honestly, I find a bit disappointing, mostly because of their differences from the art). It was (and still is) a lead-in for the 5th anniversary event. They did say they have "big plans", and no matter what you think of ArenaNet, you know that they wouldn't consider the release of costumes a big plan. This is just so people can get into the spirit of the event more, or at least that's my assumption. It's not as if the micropayments hurt the company, and if you don't want them, then don't buy them.
 * Honestly, some people are disappointed too easily at everything ANet does. Not to say it's always unwarranted, but it wouldn't hurt to ponder that ANet just might have something up their sleeve every so often if you've bothered to continue playing up to now. --Kyoshi (Talk) [[File:User Kyoshi sig.png]] 21:40, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! New costumes are fun. Don't like them, don't buy them. Don't like "Nickel & Dime Wars" (to quote 68.93), go play Solitaire in Multiplayer. Markus Clouser  [[Image:User_Markus_Clouser_signature_img.jpg|19px]] 21:42, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

So, its either this or three TF2 items plus a Sam & Max game for $39.95?I'm getting Super Street Fighter IV.--Wealedout 21:59, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Ahh so many flawed arguments... I love the smell of flawed arguments in the morning...  afternoon. Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ  аІiсә  [[File:User Aliceandsven 1.png]]  ѕνәи  Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 22:48, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Costumes
Bought both but I prefer the Shining Blade Uniform so much more than the White Mantle Robes, guess its cause am more of a Ranger person :D -- Find And Seek  21:19, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Wow, these both look terrible...they're so rigid and seriously lack detail....this is not at all what I expected from the pictures. Guess I'll pass on these... 208.100.1.46 21:28, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * need more fan service imo :P -- BobbyT [[Image:User_BobbyT BobbyT_Sig.jpg|19x19px|User Talk: BobbyT]] 23:14, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * No the hell they don't. It's way past time that all female professions had sensible field clothes to wear, and the Shining Blade outfit fills that need admirably. Of course, the White Mantle costume is completely over the top, but it's supposed to be. Arshay Duskbrow 04:50, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

The Shining Blade Uniform looks SICK on male sin...just my opinion (98.179.8.157 01:13, 16 April 2010 (UTC))
 * Assassin's Creed much? Curin Derwin 05:36, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * really i dont think they look anything alike.- [[Image:User_Zesbeer_sig.png|link=User talk:Zesbeer‎]] Zesbeer 05:43, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * They only do when dyed white. I was gonna dye mine white, but I didn't wanna look like Assassin's Creed. The WM one looks sick black. -- Konig / talk 07:47, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Kinda big...
Had to download over 600 files. Kinda big to be just the costumes imo. --M age M ontu 21:25, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * It'll be stuff for the big 5th event. They're just getting it in now. 203.118.171.134 21:27, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I counted about 1400 files, so it is something big. Probably just as ^ he/she said --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Neithan Diniem (talk).
 * Doesn't appear to be anything more than the costumes. &mdash; PmaN  21:33, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Unless someone opens up the main GW dat folder, we wont really know, but with its size we can assume theres something more.--Neithan Diniem User Neithan Diniem Sig.png]] 21:35, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * What do you think I based the above conclusion on? &mdash; PmaN  21:44, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * You sure you didnt miss anything? I was up to date and had ca. 1200-1400 files/12.2 megs to download with -image. That must've been more than just 2 costumes; in size it was a typical update before new, big events. User RolandOfGilead sig.png Roland of Gilead talk 22:40, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Their probably adding the stuff for the 5th anniversary in stages like they did before. I can guarantee that 4 costumes do NOT need 1400 and 12.2 megs.--Neithan Diniem User Neithan Diniem Sig.png]] 23:24, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Great Idea
Not bought any myself - but I really like the idea of showing your allegiance along with a costume. Tong2 21:40, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, as it stands we're with the Shining Blade, they were the last side we added. So, until Arenanet gives us a choice, we're all Shining Blade supporters by extention.  203.118.171.134 21:46, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

You know...
Some ~free~ costumes would be nice, as quest rewards, or even from the Zcoin dudes... consider it some incentive for those who don't want to ~waste~ they're money on something they'll use ~once~... - Stimpson J Kat  21:42, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * There will most probably be giveaways, just like there were when they released the Dwayna and Grenth costumes. I really don't think $10 every few months is such a big deal. :-/ Haruno Midori [[Image:User_HarunoMidori_signature_img.png|19px]] 21:47, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * There were giveaways of costumes? I don't remember them being available anywhere but the store.
 * Regardless, Kat: remember you haven't paid a cent in monthly fees for this game. A few micropayments don't hurt anyone. Besides, why would giving out free things increase incentive for anything other than playing, increasing the strain on the servers and in the process ~not making ANet one cent richer~? It's not like free things give this spoiled community any incentive to buy things. --Kyoshi (Talk) [[File:User Kyoshi sig.png]] 21:52, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * If you don't like them, don't buy them. They do absolutely nothing except change the look of your character a little. It is not like Anet is charging $10 for special "Shining Blade Armor" that has a base armor of 100 for each class, or that can hold two Insignias, or anything stupid like that. "Hey, if you want these costumes which do nothing, buy them." does not mean, "Hey, buy items that you need or that somehow give you an advantage with real money, or you will be left behind." FleshAndFaith 22:02, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * They gave like 20 sets of the others away as twitter/facebook promotions... my guess is they will do some of that during the 5th anniversary weekend, but honestly guys... these "micro transactsions" are paying to keep the Live Team supporting Guild Wars, since the majority of the company resources are being focused on giving us a FABULOUS game with GW2. Quit crying, enjoy what you do get for free, which after 5 years is actually alot, and if you like the game, and want to see it continue to be free to play, with maintenance, and updates (whether you approved of current or past updates or not, they are STILL updates), then spend $10 every 3 or 4 months if you can. It's really not that big a deal. -- Wyn [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon2.png|19px ]]  talk  22:05, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I get the main idea, and I know this may sound mean.. but recycle plastic bottles until the end of May and you'll have them. Markus Clouser  [[Image:User_Markus_Clouser_signature_img.jpg|19px]] 22:19, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * HA! I liked that! Good idea! --Kairu 23:52, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Besides, it's not like we're paying 25USD for a single horse. Sirrush 23:57, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I recently herd somewhere from someone that the video game industry is dying and needs as much money as possibly possible, it has to be true because pirates are evil and money is all that matters and oh yeah NCsoft is totally poor, the most poorest of them all, and makes literally no profits you can see this when you go to their website and notice the 3 subscrition based games that you have to buy and then continue paying for. It's so ludicrous how people complain sheesh they need money to make an even more wonderfully big pile of money don't they?  sheesh!  I wouldnt' want to see how close to being in the red they are it would be scary huh.  Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ  аІiсә  [[File:User Aliceandsven 1.png]]  ѕνәи  Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 23:07, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Body Size question
For the guys, do these outfits come in multiple sizes to fit the different male frames, or are they all just warrior-size? If they're all just warrior size, I'll pass on these. But if they're available in all male sizes, I'll consider buying them.--Res 21:49, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * They size to the character. -- FreedomBound [[Image:User_Freedom_Bound_Sig.png|19px]] 22:00, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Really? Cool, I might pick them up then.  The fact that the Grenth/Dwayna outfits didn't resize on the guys really annoyed me about them.  It's nice if these do.--Res 23:13, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Uh, might want to wait. I made up that part whole thing above. Seemed reasonable at the time. <font color="Black">-- <font color="#0104C6">FreedomBound [[Image:User_Freedom_Bound_Sig.png|19px]] 02:13, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Technically, the costumes are actually 20 different armor sets. One for each profession+gender combination. They each take up like 300 files in the dat. They scale like any other armor. It's possible some things like hanging objects (cloaks, some cloth, ornaments, etc) may not scale. ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 02:28, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I was just looking at male shining blade on my warrior and assassin and they are definitely tailored to profession. The location of the shining blade emblem on the chest of the armour appears to be in slightly different position for both professions. They did an excellent job with this one. 58.106.43.167 04:42, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

All right, thanks, everyone. I ended up picking them up. A little disappointed that they are way too bulky, but they don't look that bad. They're about the same size as the Grenth/Dwayna outfits, but somehow manage to not actually look as if they're that big. I swapped between them just to make sure, and they are actually about the same size. They look fine from the front or from the back, but from the side, they make my guys look fat. ^_^; My assassin, at least, is glad for an outfit that's actually quite nice-looking (seriously, those images on the website didn't do the outfit justice) and doesn't make him look as if he's overcompensating for something like most assassin armors do. >_> I just wish it didn't make him look quite so pudgy.--Res 16:00, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm. I do agree with you about the site pictures not doing it justice. Even the wiki images look much better. I might be picking these up soon. --Kyoshi (Talk) [[File:User Kyoshi sig.png]] 16:05, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

"Limited Time"
Sure....just like how the BMP was only available for a "limited time" yet you can still buy it, now can't you? God, I hate gimmicks like that. 208.100.1.46 22:18, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure it's referring to the costume pack as a whole, sure you can still buy the outfits individually for $7 each, but the $10 for both offer is limited time. Taros 22:19, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * May 31st to be exact. -- Wyn [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon2.png|19px ]] talk  22:21, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I think the wording is pretty clear. Costume Details: Buy the Shining Blade and White Mantle costumes separately or as a pair. Each costume costs $6.99 (€5.99/£3.99) singly, but for a limited time (until 11:59 PM on May 31, 2010) we're offering both costumes for $9.99 (€8.99/£5.99). -- Arduin [[Image:User_Arduin_Companionship.jpg|15px|talk]] 22:24, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * And the limited time offer for the BMP was that you could get it free for purchasing $30 worth of stuff from the online store. --76.114.80.153 06:27, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

You know...
You should actually read the gamespot Interview with Linsey Murdock, Here have the link, because it's will really solve much of the bull being said here, no offence I like the wikitards here but this need the info most of you didn't read.

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/guildwars/news.html?sid=6258414&tag=topslot

Best Regard from the magical IP-> 85.242.104.65 22:31, 15 April 2010 (UTC)Also this was given unto you with the power of the Cake Of Truth it tells no Lies!
 * We all read that years ago, bro. [[Image:User_Felix_Omni_Signature.png]]elix Omni 23:15, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The article was published today... if you read it years ago could I borrow your time machine? --64.231.46.83 23:34, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Bah, IP 64 beat me to the time machine joke.
 * Anyways, the article doesn't really say a lot regarding the "bull being said here"- most people here are just complaining about the costumes, which is something that'll happen no matter what. 68.118.250.100 23:37, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

SURPRISE
Oh wait, not that much of a surprise 76.188.221.120 00:12, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Female outfit
WM on females (particularly monk) is, in my humble opinion, freaking awful. This isn't really a complaint, I baught them both and I quite like the SB costume, I just want to see what people think about how the female models tend to want to chew on their emblem things. I didn't go anywhere besides GTOB today so it might just be that outpost, but the capes as well are really akward looking, they go way off to the side.

In other news, we can now cosplay as Link. Anyone want to help me figure out a skin that would fit nicely as a "Master Sword"? Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә    ѕνәи  Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 01:44, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Legendary Sword imo [[Image:User_Felix_Omni_Signature.png]]elix Omni 01:50, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm gonna take a look through the sword gallery, I'm not the hugest zelda fan though so I don't know what all of the swords looked like except for the obvious OoT thing. Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ  аІiсә  [[File:User Aliceandsven 1.png]]  ѕνәи  Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 01:58, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Aureate Blade, Singing Blade, Emerald Blade, Greater Highlander Blade, Highlander Blade, Lesser Highlander Blade, Zodiac Sword?
 * So, can any one upload screens of that costumes? I'am interested in female monk screens >.>--I Unhealable I 03:59, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Greater Highlander would be closest out of those options, just dye it purple (though the blade's metal appearance suffers). In my opinion the good ol' Long Sword dyed purple would fit the bill nicely, the hilt is a little long and thin, but the blade shape wins it over.--<span style="color: darkblue; font-family: Old English Text MT, script; font-size:110%">Neithan Diniem User Neithan Diniem Sig.png]] 04:48, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * All they need to do now is allow costumes in PvP Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә  [[File:User Aliceandsven 1.png]]  ѕνәи  Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 20:28, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * They fixed the emblem-mouth problem on females but the whole thing still looks like you fell out of a paper shredder or something. Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ  аІiсә  [[File:User Aliceandsven 1.png]]  ѕνәи  Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 22:51, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

2nd undocumented update
I just got it. Anyone know more? BlazeRick 04:57, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * "Fixes" to the costumes. I notice a forehead ornament on the female White Mantle Mitre that was missing before, the White Mantle Robes cape seems to have gained increased movement, and the large golden emblem seems to have been reduced in size somewhat. I don't notice any changes to the Shining Blade, though. Arshay Duskbrow 05:03, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I got ~35 files on startup, and another 30 at login (into ToA) so... all I can say is it's not just fixing a crash bug 71.146.94.98 05:07, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Update - Thursday, April 15, 2010
 * Tyrian Whispers


 * As hostilities escalate, speculation on coming events can be heard on every corner. Those loyal to Princess Salma speak of bold measures being conceived in the Talmark Wilderness.


 * Bug Fixes


 * Made minor fixes to Shining Blade Uniform and White Mantle Disguise.
 * Source [[Image:User_Ryuu_R.jpg|19px]] Ryuu   - Meow~ ♥  05:08, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * its documented on the main guild wars website i updated the notes to reflect it.- [[Image:User_Zesbeer_sig.png|link=User talk:Zesbeer‎]] Zesbeer 05:12, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Excuse me. I would've checked first, but I'm used to finding the update posted on the wiki before it's on the official site. Ktnx. BlazeRick 05:26, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

2nd update
The second update added a lot of new text, probably dialogue. Also, new references to D'Alessio Seaboard and D'Alessio Seaboard 1079 AE. &mdash; <font color="black" size="2px">PmaN  05:19, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * can you provide screens of this ?- [[Image:User_Zesbeer_sig.png|link=User talk:Zesbeer‎]] Zesbeer 06:03, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I think the new instance for D'Alessio was in the first update. 2nd update added new dialogue in Shining Blade Camp Pic here --SharkinuUser Sharkinu sig.png 06:10, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, I did see 2 new scenes, no screenies. 1st was where the SB decided to send an emissary to get support, so Livia is going to Rata Sum to ask for help, and Evennia will go to the EotN to get the Ebon Vanguard to help Kryta. The 2nd one was 4 new recruits: 1 widow from Nebo Terrace, 2 brothers from Shaemoor (OR Loamhurst, can't remember) and a former WM that refused to kill Chosen and was banished. --[[Image:User Large sig.png|talk]] Large 06:13, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * (ec) i saw the dialog with the sb and liva and evennia going to eotn what is this other stuff and how do you get the "dialog with D'Alessio Seaboard"- [[Image:User_Zesbeer_sig.png|link=User talk:Zesbeer‎]] Zesbeer 06:15, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm in D'Alessio Seaboard, nothing has changed there. I have all the requirements. --[[Image:User Large sig.png|talk]] Large 06:18, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * There is no dialogue or screens of the new D'Alessio, just new references in the dat, which went live with the second build (30177). A new explorable will probably be added in a future build, just as was done with the new Talmark. &mdash; <font color="black" size="2px">PmaN  06:22, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * were the 4 new recruits in the camp or some place else?- [[Image:User_Zesbeer_sig.png|link=User talk:Zesbeer‎]] Zesbeer 06:25, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Guys... stop. This is all lead up for the 5th anniversary content. Your dat mining is just spoiling it for those of us who would like to be surprised. If you have to do it, keep it off the update pages, and let the update notes speak for themselves. This is really becoming annoying. -- Wyn [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon2.png|19px ]] talk  06:29, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * hey wyn why dont you actually read whats going on before you make assumptions.- [[Image:User_Zesbeer_sig.png|link=User talk:Zesbeer‎]] Zesbeer 06:37, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The only thing I have seen anyone refrence that has not been released in game is whatever the Seaboard stuff is. How can it be getting annoying when it just started? --Kairu 06:44, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't even know how to data mine the .dat file. Sorry, Wyn, I PLAYED the game and WENT there, SAW the scenes. Anyway. The recruits are at the camp gate. --[[Image:User Large sig.png|talk]] Large 06:46, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The dat is a reliable place to find future content. ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 07:01, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * "hey guys here is a whole new bunch of stuff recently added to the DAT so you don't have to have fun with the progression of the new content the way it was meant to be :D"

New Blade Camp dialouge
I'll be posting screens in a bit. Seems that Evennia is off to the Eye and Liva to Rata Sum.--<font color="Olive">Sage  <font color="Olive">Talk  07:06, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Never Mind, Large beat me to the punch.--<font color="Olive">Sage  <font color="Olive">Talk  07:10, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

New Peacekeeper Boss Added
Added new peacekeeper boss to The Black Curtain along the road towards Cursed Lands, ele named Melikos, seems to be random spawn though one of the times i got Cerris instead, hasnt droped anything worth mentioning for me edit: Melikos is an E/D with Master of Magic & Mystic Regeneration, theres a warrior boss too name Carnak the Hungry, could be more207.200.116.9 07:48, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Peacekeeper Blockade
There's a blockade of sorts that appears east of Beetletun on the way to Nebo village that I just ran into where a goon demands to see a travel permit. Has this already been mentioned elsewhere?--71.95.46.36 16:18, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Nvm. /doh--71.95.46.36 16:25, 16 April 2010 (UTC)