User talk:Isaiah Cartwright/Izzy Talk Archive 11

Welcome Back
Let this poor anon welcome you back here in this hellhole with a header. Remember Izzy, you have a hard job, you are working on two things which will be critsized mercilessly by us elitists who can't appeciate you. You are the best.

Also, try not to ignore what readem may say, but ignore how he says it.

GL&HF. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 78.176.237.199 (talk &bull; contribs) 21:02, 14 February 2008 (UTC).
 * Lol, it's not that bad. Feedback is just a silly thing if not focused properly it becomes a big mess of screaming where the good points are lost in a sea of feedback. ~Izzy @-&#39;
 * Welcome back. I hope you can find a way, because we all want GW2 to be finished soon, but we also love to chat with you. Nicky Silverstar 08:14, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * lol, reading izzy's sentence, but replace "feedback" with "crap". Sounds hilarioous, and I'm sure that's waht he wanted to say. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.103.86.207 (talk &bull; contribs) 13:43, 15 February 2008 (UTC).
 * Welcome back. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  貢  22:22, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Assassin Test
Very to the point - are you wanting people not to comment then on the claims a poster makes? The back and forth *can* generate ideas, but it often results in people simply taking opposite sides. You might be right that simply stating the issue, and a proposed solution, with no discussion would be best. And welcome back! --Epinephrine 20:10, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Well I mainly wanted to move the discussion away from the origional post, you should be able to still go look at the discussion but it wouldn't flood the original point. Mainly I'm trying to separate the feedback to me and discussion about that person feedback.~Izzy @-&#39; 20:25, 14 February 2008 (UTC)


 * By the looks of it, the main issue is stated on the main page, the discussion of that issue is on the talk page. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|15px| ]] Brains12 \ Talk 20:11, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Exactly, this way I can respond to the issue without having to filter through pages of discussion, it creates a more direct feedback from person to me, while still allowing for conversation and discussion to happen. ~Izzy @-&#39; 20:25, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * so when and where am i able to QQ about smiting prayers being useless? --Cursed Angel [[Image:User Cursed Angel Signature.jpg|19px|talk]] 20:27, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * When = When I figure out a formate that works and get the time to set up my whole page accordingly. Where= not sure probably need a link for each attribute line, so overall things can be discussed or just a general discussion for things like that to go to. ~Izzy @-&#39; 20:47, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Basically, you mean when you can manage to find a better way to set things up so that your incompitence and complete and utter lack of knowledge about the game and skills, isn't quite as obvious? ;)  I guess if it was my fault that the game has gone so far down hill and lost so many players beause of the constand addition of limitations and the vast majority of skills that were once usable being Nerfed to the point of being useless, I wouldn't want people to realise it either.  Good luck on continuing to try and hide all your screw-ups.  ;) --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:67.159.44.138 (talk).
 * Can you actually delete skills from the server?Prokiller88 22:08, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * They should. The once hundreds of great skills has been reduced to so few now, might as well delete the ones he destroyed instead of leaving them there, leaving all those useless skills just shows how bad a job he has done. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:67.159.44.138 (talk).
 * I'll jump out on a limb and guess you thought the old incoming was cool, along with eurospike, SF spikes and "lol, instagib" assassins (ofc, those still work, just not quite so well) Lord of all tyria 22:14, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL, no, not realy. They were okay, sure, there were great counters to all of those but people were too pathetic to use them, so they got nerfed.  I however, pre-date all that crap.  I was playing in early 2005 when you could actually grab a bunch of different skills from your character that looked like fun to play, and have them actually useful.  The limitations of only so few usable skills these days is depressing compaired to back then. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:67.159.44.138 (talk).
 * I think this is a good idea. You can have two seperate pages maybe? One for people to do the usual moaning and bitching, and another for actual ideas on how to fix it. Everyone wins?--Ryudo 22:22, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, and we can periodically blank the bitching, because it's not worth archiving. Lord Belar 22:24, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * User talk:Isaiah Cartwright/Bitch here, no-one cares. That? Lord of all tyria 22:26, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

(reset) Lol, something like that. I need some place to moan about why Ray of Judgement doesnt light all enemies on fire.--Ryudo 22:34, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Yea I need a place to say, revert shadow refuge back to 6 seconds or make the heal unconditional.68.20.212.193 23:55, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

How is the user page portion different from the OP in the older system? I think a summary of the various perspectives would be more useful than a single Problem==>Solution. --24.179.151.252 09:49, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Looks like this is the formate I would like to go with, someone willing to archive this thread for me? Izzy @  -' 00:32, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Hocrap it's an Izzy!
Welcome back, man. -- Armond Warblade 23:40, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah someone just needed to res sig me. ~Izzy @-&#39; 23:47, 15 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I'd use a scroll (even though I'm uber cheap and will never really buy one) if I knew you were knocked out! Renin 01:54, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd use a death pact signet on you Izzy!--Ryudo 02:03, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Careful! It just got nerfed! XD --74.12.184.71 02:29, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Pfft. Noobs... Obviously you should use Rebirth, to not only res him but also get him away from the aggroed anons. &mdash; Galil [[Image:User Galil sig.png|Talk page]] 04:44, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Nah, you should use Sunspear Rebirth Signet. Oh, wait, that won't work in pvp. Lord Belar 04:56, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Unyielding Aura so that you can pull the plug at any time. Or Vengeance so he works harder :P --Deathwing 01:47, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't forget to make minion burgers out of him first. Oh, but then not enough energy to use rebirth!  Stupid Soul Reaping energy cap!  >_<  --Reklaw 02:10, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Izzy Green Text
I've been debating marking all my text in green so it's easier for everyone to see my responces, but this seems a bit over the top and I could see how it could be annoying, Thoughts? ~Izzy @-&#39; 23:14, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * would be better if you just made your signature look disturbing, right now its kinda hard to find --Cursed Angel [[Image:User Cursed Angel Signature.jpg|19px|talk]] 23:33, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't it be a bit of a hassle to write out the code every time you respond? I agree with CA, making your signature a little more obvious would maybe go towards the same effect. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|15px| ]] Brains12 \ Talk 23:41, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * A different color for the signature might work nicely, but then again, it would need to be some sort of color that other people don't use much. Green text wouldn't be too annoying, I don't think, but like Brains mentioned, that's even more hassle for you. If you need to write out two lines of code for every comment, that's yet another thing that might discourage you from posting. Just something that's not blue, black, or white should do fine for a signature, in my opinion... --[[image:User_Jioruji_Derako_logo.png]] Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> .cнаt^  00:26, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * ~ Izzy @ -&#39; ?  The ascii rose is fun. :)  --Aspectacle 00:57, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * That stands out pretty nicely. Even having just the rose in color and leaving the rest as it is would stand out just fine. --[[image:User_Jioruji_Derako_logo.png]] Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> .cнаt^  01:21, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm gonna give this a try if that doesn't work I'll revert to green text of doom. &lt;font color=green&gt;&lt;b&gt;Izzy &lt;font color=#E30020&gt;@&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;-&amp;#39;&lt;/font&gt; 19:12, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm failing to get this to work any ideas? ~Izzy
 * And just to show why I think the highlighted text stands out, this post is stands out so much more then the above posts ~Izzy
 * izzy could have an image over 19px like this; --I Z Z Y [[Image:Wither.jpg|33px|talk]] --Cursed Angel  [[Image:User Cursed Angel Signature.jpg|19px|talk]] 01:28, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * No :/ --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|15px| ]] Brains12 \ Talk 01:29, 19 February 2008 (UTC)


 * As far as your hassle statement goes, Brains, I'm sure Izzy could just post "Hey, please make my comments green" and the community would see to it. :) &mdash;Tanaric 01:40, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh we're good, but we're not that good ;P --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|15px| ]] Brains12 \ Talk 01:43, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure ArenaNet members can go over policy considering it's their website. Heck, Gaile is violating GWW:USER and no one has said a word to her about it. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  貢  02:22, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * How is Gaile violating USER? Oh, and I highly doubt ArenaNet could violate a policy just because they are ArenaNet. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|15px| ]] Brains12 \ Talk 02:28, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * They own the site, but the admins and policies aren't theirs. I'm sure they could get banned just like anyone else, if for some reason they did some bannable offense (like if Gaile suddenly started vandalizing pages, hehe.) --[[image:User_Jioruji_Derako_logo.png]] Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  05:53, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Gaile uses purple text and a purple icon, which really stands out among other icons. Maybe you could do the same...how about a flame of balthazar icon, maybe highlighted a bit. I'm sure I could make something like that for you wanted it (or maybe someone else, who is far better with photoshop than I am). Nicky Silverstar 07:39, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Photoshop is expensive. For small pictures where you're altering things pixel by pixel anyway, gogo ms paint. (Is there any advantage I'm not missing, though? I'm curious.) -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 07:52, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I think a "developer" or "associate" text color would go a long way towards helping people filter out the nonsense. Gaile's purple-pink text in-game is especially helpful, although for different reasons.  I look for you in responses, but find I tend to overlook where you've said something.  Having a general color for anyone "important" as far as viable feedback goes, within ANet or the wiki operations itself would be highly appropriate.  --Reklaw 08:50, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * If you do decide to change your text color, may I suggest "navy" or a close equivalent (i.e. #000066) - it's different enough to stand out for someone skimming the page, but still dark enough to be nearly equivalent to black-on-white for contrast and readability. Navy would also work better in terms of being less likely to be problematic for colorblind users.
 * As far as policy goes, I don't think it would be a violation - it doesn't make it difficult for people to leave you messages, which is the only formatting restriction laid out in GWW:USER. [[Image:User Aiiane-a.gif|Go to Aiiane's Talk page]] (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 09:27, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I feel the above suggestion of changing your signature would be the easiest and least problematic way to go about it. --Xeeron 13:09, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I just meant photo editting in general, and photoshop was the first thing that came into mind. My offer still stands though. Nicky Silverstar 13:15, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Izzy, I think you may need to tick the "Raw signatures" box just under the nickname field ;) (and also, new comments should generally go at the bottom of topics, but just indented with an extra : to indicate who are you are responding to) -- Brains12 \ Talk 19:13, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Some clever chap could probably right a bot that just changes all izzy's text on his talk pages to a certain colour after he posts it. -- Lemming [[Image:User Lemming64 sigicon.png]] 19:13, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I did that and I'm getting invalid HTML any ideas? If I copy past it anywhere else it works fine. ~Izzy
 * Quote marks around the hex code. Double quotes. Gets me every time. >.< -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 19:30, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Try  and it should should come up as  Izzy  <font color=#E30020>@  -&#39; --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|15px| ]] Brains12 \ Talk 19:33, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * He did. Double quotes around the hex code. (Actually, probably double quotes around all the values for font color would be best.)
 * Izzy <font color="#E30020">@  -&#39;
 * -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 19:37, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 19:37, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Test &lt;font color=green&gt;&lt;b&gt;Izzy &lt;font color=#E30020&gt;@&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;-'&lt;/font&gt; 20:12, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * ^--- Total Wiki noob and has no idea how to make it work lol ~Izzy
 * Raw signatures button? :P -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 20:15, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * It's selected and it still not working &lt;font color=green&gt;&lt;b&gt;Izzy &lt;font color=#E30020&gt;@&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;-'&lt;/font&gt; 20:29, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * ARGH. It's substituting the characters for the code with the HTML versions. Effing wonderful.
 * Anyone know how to fix? -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 20:40, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey Izzy heres the code that works in my pref's for your siggy.-- Izzy <font color="#E30020">@ -'  20:50, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * ^-Try that, added the stem tbh.--Shadowsin
 * We're dumb. Try -- Izzy <font color="#E30020">@ -'  - there was a command for a horizontal rule somewhere in there. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 21:11, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Izzy <font color="#E30020">@  -' 22:18, 19 February 2008 (UTC) <-  Izzy  <font color="#E30020">@  -' seems to work for me. Are you sure you have raw signature checked? - Belar

Look guys, ima Izzy! <font color="Green">Izzy <font color="Red">@ <font color="Green">-'  00:03, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Test Izzy  <font color="#E30020">@  -' 00:24, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
 * ^--- Looks like I got it, I think I didn't have the [[User part in there.
 * Lol, that would do it! Glad you fixed it. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 00:29, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

I think this thread is done, can someone archive it for me? Izzy <font color="#E30020">@  -' 00:31, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm currently working on restructuring this page a bit, I've moved a bunch of stuff to archive and I'll be changing up how much page is layed out here shortly.

~Izzy @-&#39; 17:28, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Were happy you are back :) --<font color="Orange">Fox007  [[Image:User Fox007 sig.png|User:Fox007]] 17:38, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Lol thanks, I know people get frustrated with my lack of posting so I need to restructure it somehow to make it more usable, I get irrated with the conflicts and I feel like I'm trying to use a cup and string to communicate sometimes and I end up loosing enthusiasm to post, I'll see if I can come up with something more functional here until then it might be a bit messy. ~Izzy @-&#39; 17:42, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * so u're gonna be more active from now on? --83.183.17.148 17:49, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Izzy has no responsibility to be active on this site, if he is on at all its on his personal time, and is a gift basically to users. As for the changes Izzy is suggesting here, its great in theory.  The problem is, this is the internet and people tend to get stupid on it.  I am willing to bet no matter what system is in place the trolls and the loud mouth malcontents will come out and flood the new structure and all the constructive input will be lost.-- riceball   [[Image:User Riceball Sig.JPG]] 00:58, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * We have admins with banhammers for a reason. <font color="#DD2200">Lord Belar 01:03, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Too bad it seems few user them. This site is full of uncivil behavior that goes unchecked.-- riceball   [[Image:User Riceball Sig.JPG]] 01:22, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * no u --<font color="Black">Cursed Angel [[Image:User Cursed Angel Signature.jpg|19px|talk]] 01:34, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * well see how it goes, I'm sure attempting some order is better then assuming failure :P ~Izzy @-&#39; 23:32, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I think what you should do is create a system where people can filter out the garbage opinions for you, allowing you to focus on the more reasonable suggestions. I think this is more about too many user opinions and only so much you can do.-- riceball   [[Image:User Riceball Sig.JPG]] 01:00, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Ok I need to get some other stuff done, but I put up a sample of the formate I'm thinking about enforcing, checkout it in the overpowered skills section under the Assassin Test, the main goal here is to move the Discussion away from the issue so I can quickly see what someone is talking about, I don't have time to have deep discussion about every skill int he game with 20+ people but if properly formated I can at least respond to someones idea. I feel like the discussion is becoming so large that my ability to respond just gets lost. Anyway let me know what you think. ~Izzy @-&#39; 19:26, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I heard somewhere you were busy on GW2 skills. Do you know anything yet i am curious =3. Will there become big chances in the skill usage compared to GW1? --<font color="Orange">Fox007  [[Image:User Fox007 sig.png|User:Fox007]] 17:43, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Just going to have to wait and see :P but yes I'm working on GW2 skills/combat a lot. ~Izzy @-&#39; 23:31, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm out today as one of my kidos is sick, so this is just gonna remain a little messy, If I get some time later tonight when the kids are crashed maybe I'll work on it. ~Izzy @-&#39; 23:36, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Izzy just a quick question i dont wanna die waiting for; can i be mesmer in gw2? --<font color="Black">Cursed Angel [[Image:User Cursed Angel Signature.jpg|19px|talk]] 23:38, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * You will have to wait and see we haven't announced any classes yet, but mesmers are one of my personal favorite ;) ~Izzy @-&#39; 23:49, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * u cant take it away, btw thanks for powerleak :D --<font color="Black">Cursed Angel [[Image:User Cursed Angel Signature.jpg|19px|talk]] 23:55, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Personally I c a great potential for Mesmers in GW2. Also it would be gr8 if Elementalists (or something similar) stay;). --MageMontu 08:56, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Well i expect that warrior's ranger's monk's and elementalist's will come in GW2 they are the base for almost evry RPG ^^ --<font color="Orange">Fox007  [[Image:User Fox007 sig.png|User:Fox007]] 09:21, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
 * My personal view is that the Paragon, Ritualist and Assassin will not be back in their current form, because they have been very hard to balance. The Dervish and the main professions though...I can see them making a comeback.Nicky Silverstar 16:17, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

I'd vote for merging the paragon with the warrior, merging the ritu with the necro, and merging the assassin with the ranger and give them all new names, the dervish concept is pretty useless anyway, looks cool but is useless. --<font color="Black">Cursed Angel  16:25, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Stop wasting yur time CA, you know thats never going to happen ~ SCobra [[Image:User-SuperCobra-Sig.png]] 16:33, 16 February 2008 (UTC)


 * The Paragon, Assassin, Dervish, and Ritualist have all been hard to balance. Anything that can put deep wound on three people - no matter what the drawbacks - is always going to be problematic. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 19:41, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm around some today I'll try and pike around with some wiki stuff and see what I get done. ~Izzy @-&#39; 22:54, 18 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I think the Para, Derv, Sin and Rit could all be made to work in GW2. The problem with them in GW is that ANET had the PvP formats all balanced around the original classes and skillset. Then they added stuff and it broke. Big surprise. I trust you guys to do it right from the ground up in GW2, Izzy. =) --TimeToGetIntense 14:21, 19 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I sure hope Mesmers are coming back. My only request is that they be made more viable for universal play, as the balance changes hurt the PvE value of the class way too much across time. Izzy, you did say Mesmers are a personal favorite of yours. Some love in GW2 would be ultimate win. TristanDark84 21:58, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

New format for skill sections?
First of all, welcome back. It's good to see someone from Anet who actually responds to fan feedback...sometimes.

Anyway, I noticed you have a page: User:Isaiah_Cartwright/Assassin/Augury of Death

Is this going to be how skill sections are divided up? Seems to cut down on page sizes, especially for professions with tons of posts (monk). Shard 08:20, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
 * This is actually being discussed above; the main intent of these subpages is to get them readable for Izzy, so things don't get buried. Thus, a short, concise introduction as to the skill and its problem(s), and everything else on the discussion page. Feel free to point out the pros and cons you see above. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 08:41, 16 February 2008 (UTC)