Talk:Vehjin Mines

Anyone else notice the three stooges in the NPC's? Ooom 16:43, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Missing spawns with Master of Whispers in party
What exactly happens is that the whole western valley is empty: not only are the mobs missing, but the bounty NPC at the resurrect shrine too. However, there is a coffer in the middle, which cannot be interacted with until you get the corresponding quest Coffer of Joko. Moreover, this only happened to me until I completed that quest; afterwards, the monsters spawned normally even with Master of Whispers in the party. So, my theory: since each of that series of quests can be accepted and finished without leaving this area, the game has to expect you to do those quests if you meet its conditions (not completed already, required hero in party). The regular spawns would interfere with the task of eliminating the Margonite squads guarding the Coffer, so they are removed, and because creatures cannot be "un-spawned" on the fly from an entered area (can they? I haven't seen such thing anywhere), they are not spawned at all to begin with. Does this attempt at an explanation sound right? Pt314 21:35, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * So the reason is simply that Coffer of Joko has not yet been completed? -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png| ]] 14:36, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It has not been completed yet, AND you may complete it in the current instance of the area. (the second part explains why it only happens with Master of Whispers in party -- he is a required hero for those quests) Pt314 21:33, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * In that case, the note is wrong then, since the spawn is expected to change. The note should be placed on the quest page instead. -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png| ]] 05:27, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Might be worth a mention here as well though, as this can be (ab)used to help with vanquishing this area, and because it is what makes Nehpek the Remorseless disappear as well, which can be quite important because he is the only boss you can capture Pain of Disenchantment from. (The comment about his disappearance both here and on his own page is slightly wrong.) Also, about the note on the quest page: does a quest being "active" mean you've accepted it, it's shown in the quest list etc.? In that case, it doesn't have to active, just not completed previously. (You "activate" the quest in this same area, and the game can't know in advance whether you will in fact accept it, only whether you might.) ...hmm, these are quite minor changes now, I'll go do something about them. Pt314 08:15, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Great! (since you definitely know more about what you mean that me :D) Thanks. -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png| ]] 09:52, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Alas, that theory goes down the drain too. A few minutes ago I completed "To the Rescue" which is in the middle of that quest chain and hence alters the spawns in the zone.  I had Master of Whispers in the team (I was doing today's ZV quest at the same time), and yet a few minutes later I met and killed the Nehpek boss.  So that explanation isn't right either. Morgaine 01:54, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Vanqing
182foes, 47min, vanq/mapping. No challenge here. Lots of physicals. Not much else to say other then try to take down the Gravebanes first. Justice 06:20, 13 September 2010 (UTC)