Feedback talk:User/Goril/Cleave

So this inflicts cracked armor and if target allready does have cracked armor this does + dmg ? Raemon 23:15, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Exactly.'''Goril 5:27,11 October 2009 (UTC)
 * An elite that inflicts cracked armor for warriors sounds good. It needs to have LOW bonus damage however, considering the synergy with other skills and the massive damage increase CA provides. Like, at max 10 bonus damage IMO. --Taki Fujiko 23:04, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * War could go always necro/rit/ele secondary and get nonelite cracked armor allso Evi>this ... Raemon 07:02, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * My intention is make Cleave interesting option for axe warriors,which almost always take Eviscerate or Primal Rage.You say necro/rit/ele ,yes but i want to give Warrior skill,which inflicts CrAr without taking secondary.That was my intension.Goril 16:16, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Sound very nice, +Damage should be lowered, this skill is a real Melee Killer with deep wound also provided by axe. "wild blow" works nice too in this synergy. --Kali Shin Shivara 01:42, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

It's a bad idea to give martial classes a direct way of inflicting cracked armor. To make cleave a good pressure elite again, bumping it up to 5 with a little more damage and a small bonus effect would be nice. My idea for that effect is gaining 2 if it's blocked. This would make it a good pressure skill, but far less spammy than the buffed warrior's endurance was. Zen` 00:47, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Where is the problem? Whirling Axe removes Stances in the same way (most vs bonetti, shieldstance etc. on monks), okay body blow needs to be fixed in this case... sword is constant damage, bleeding, cripple/axe variable damage, deep wound, rupt, anti melee sounds nice in this case, 'cause its a annoying weapon as it is/hammer has knockdown, weakness, extreme high damage output. If it should be realistic... hammers break bones through armors and deform armors with giant bumps. "Forceful Blow" may be also a candidate for "cracked armor" --Kali Shin Shivara 18:24, 1 February 2010 (UTC)