Talk:Quick Shot

Related Skills
Both of these skills can be shot in a fairly rapid succession if the conditions are met. The termites in Istani (and probably Kourna) use these two skills together, and when grouped against several of them at once can be very hazardous. 68.104.205.160 06:16, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Gosh, they are just normal bow attacks with no extra damage, nothing a monk can't handle..

That may be true but consider the rapid fire rate with something like, Kindle Arrows and Conjure Flame. With simple attributes like 7 in each, you could have approximately an extra +30. Another thing to think about for PvE, Read the Wind and Favorable Winds. Your arrows move like lightning and deal a tad more damage. Quick Shot and Needling Shot are overlooked way too much.

I don't think they are overlooked... remember the aftercast!

Other Related Skills of Other Professions
Not sure if it would've been acceptable to place similar skills of other professions in the article or not. The assassins have Repeating Strike which is very similar, except it is a Dagger attack instead of bow attack. 68.104.205.160 06:16, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't think Repeating Strike is "very similar" to Quick Shot. -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png|sig]] 06:36, 25 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't see what's so useful about this skill, it's slower and more expensive than Called Shot - it just has a faster cooldown. Dagorath 14:05, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, its faster. Skills with 1 second take much less time than skills with no seconds. Whitch means, you'll be firiing arrows faster than a mursat runs from my bow.

Usefulness/comments
Quick shot's usefulness lies not in the "flies twice as fast" feature, its in a property that the tooltip doesn't have: Quick shot is fired immediatly upon cast, with no delay like interrupts. So, you can weave it in between other shots, or simply weave it into your auto-shots. Quickshot is useful then for ranger spiking.


 * This should be put into the page somewhere since it's important to know 128.2.151.17 05:26, 23 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Not to mention that using this skill with a Horn bow gives you a very fast attack in combination with rapid fire, AND 10% AP. And using it with a Long bow gives you insane range, again with a very fast attack speed. And yes, this skill is great with Kindle and Conjure Flame. FleshAndFaith 18:00, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah...We all learned that Kindle Arrows is uber pressure on Shing Jea Island, didn't we? Those smart smart Crimson Skull. /sarcasm 66.202.1.169 01:15, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

I think this skill could be useful in some situations. Using a perfect vamp hornbow (or just use a Deldrimor Hornbow), and these skills: Point Blank Shot, Quick Shot, Hunter's Shot, Interrupt, (2 optionals), Kindle Arrows, and Conjure Flame, this could be devastating. PBShot - Quick - Hunter's - Quick - Interrupt, for a total of 125 dmg just from life stealing and kindle (on low armor ratings), and the conjure with 10% AP Bow attacks would add decent damage. And if used with a Backbreaker sin with Augury of Death to apply dw, it'd probably finish off most foes. Cons: Empathy, Visions of Regret, and those sorts is a perfect counter. a random D-shot into the chain would probaly kill it. No Hex/Condition removal, or rez sig unless put into the optionals. Interrupt -> PBShot aftercast + hornbow regular speed would probably give enough time to react if they're not dead. Poor energy management, no good for prolonged fights. This is all theoretical though, I haven't tried this in TA or GvG yet.--138.88.87.111 21:31, 19 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Usefulness: (1/10), Comments: Someone please remind me WHY this is an elite skill? ®emi¢k§ 00:30, 4 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Because as a non-elite it would be overpowered lol. tazer 22:46, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

ONLY time I've ever used it is during holiday/festival weekends. Running around with a ranger speed buffs and this makes very fast work of level 1 foes to collect the special drops. Other than that, pretty useless, no donus dmg and its elite. 120.158.229.65 07:49, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

This should be linked to marksmanship
Every other attack (aside melee attacks) that does not improve with the attribute level is linked to the skill that the attack is used for. (See Disrupting Chop ect.) Why is this one not?--Zathic 22:00, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Is the skill linked in-game to that attribute? (i mean, in the drop out list for skills/stats). If it is there, then i can be changed here, if it's not, then i think it should not. As you said, other skills with no apparent relation have links to attributes in the infobox, but that is because they are linked also in the in-game menu.--Fighterdoken 22:08, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Funny idea
Conjure lighting, put a shocking bow mod on your bow, rapid fire, this....lol...nice spike--Ra ph  Tal ky  01:36, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Not a spike. People usually do it with Kindle Arrows and Conjure Flame to maximize damage, though. --[[Image:User Mafaraxas_sigimg.jpg|click moar]] Mafaraxas  03:35, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
 * why to take rapid fire? this increases your attack speed enuf, get kindle arrows is much better i guess88.244.3.83 15:25, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Lol
This skill has a longer consise description than normal description. 65.95.59.118 21:25, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * XD yeah, just added "You" Halogod35 08:08, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Really a Quick Shot?
i dont really think this is a quick shot and it dosnt really desreve an elite status. Its underused and underpowered. A few simple improvments would help like just getting rid of the recharge time. I have tried using this skill but whenever i try to keep using it, it constantly cuts off my normal attack. Also somthing like unblockable would help just to add another benefit. Im new to guild wiki so dont know much but these improvements alone could make quickshot a more used and usefull elite.
 * The problem in buffing Quick Shot with anything you suggested is that it quickly leads to gimmicky builds in PvP. No reason it can't be buffed for PvE, though. --[[Image:User Mafaraxas_sigimg.jpg|click moar]] Mafaraxas  05:31, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Useing at after a bow attack can help, although if your attack speed is like... 1.5 secconds, your next attack will take place 2.5 secconds after you fire a quick shot, i think. But imediatly after you get an attack. Idk if this is an IAS or not, but just spamming quick shot every 2 secconds is actually and ias for hornbows. And again, very useful in a spike chain, was used with some success early on. Once Great King 02:41, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Quick Shot has an activation time, so it is meant to be used after another attack skill for an instant, extra quick shot - bypassing the normal "aftercast" of most bow attacks. It can also be used in a chain of attacks with activation times, such as Hunter's Shot, Penetrating Attack, Sundering Attack. This allows you to constantly spam attack skills. Use with a Hornbow for maximal damage, and of course add a preparation.
 * Just spamming Quick Shot is a waste of the skill tbh. Anyway, not many people use this anymore because other skills like Burning Arrow and Glass Arrows are available. Mori no Kinoko ni go Youjin [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|QQ]] 02:48, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Anybody who has used the skill for more than five minutes can figure out that it's not supposed to be a spammable attack skill. You use it after you make a default bow attack or use another bow skill, so that before you string up your next shot, you've already got another arrow on it's way. Quick Shot works wonders for pressure builds, you just have to know how to use it. Anti-Theory 16:11, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, the extra "quick shot" after an attack can be achieved by a few attack skills, such as penetrating shot. I do it all the time to get more attacks in faster. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 208.92.184.201 (talk).

Power shot is related to this?
Might as well put all bow skills as well. Power shot only has 2 things in common with quick shot 1. Bow Attack 2. Has the word "shot" in its name. 216.119.178.127 03:13, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Activation time. Vili [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 04:43, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

No.
No. 58.111.179.150 17:31, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

YES. And I like it!

Underpowered as of now
Quick Shot as of now is not worth an elite slot, because it is really not attractive compared to the bow attacks with the one second casting time and no aftercast like Power Shot, Hunter's Shot, Penetrating/Sundering Attack, why like QS to them if you can link one of these other attacks instead. I would suggest linking it to Marksmanship and giving a PvE version of it a damage progression equal to Barrage (0..17..20), and a PvP version with a damage equal do Volley (0..8..10). Or it could have the recharge time removed allowing the skill itself to be spammed making itself self-sustainable.189.122.0.45 19:17, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Why would anyone spam a no-damage elite bow attack when they could just use an IAS (for much less energy) and actual attack skills with room for an elite. In its current state, Quick Shot is weaker than Needling Shot. <>Sparky, the Tainted 23:24, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Imagine no recharge with Ignite Arrows, imagine how much damage that would be -- thinking about it i may try that in pvp -- [[Image:User_C4K3_Signature.jpg]]C4K3 13:04, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

The very least they could do is make the attack unblockable. I think it would have some uses here and there then. 82.201.19.103 15:08, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Laughable elite. Like Called Shot, but worse. And Elite. What are ANet doing? Astralphoenix777 12:13, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Bow Sin
Take a sin, full CS, use CE, Disrupting accuracy and have fun with ultra quick, Critical, Interrupts, its actually kind of fun to fully shut down a elementalist with this. 86.80.183.215 11:02, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * submit it on pvx, they'll be glad you did. this is a highly original idea, never seen before --[[Image:User Mafaraxas_sigimg.jpg|click moar]] Mafaraxas  15:15, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * ^They won't hesitate to trash vet it as great.152.226.7.205 02:32, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * im using that one for a really long time, critical skills up +keen arrow with my A/R=pwnage.
 * WotA >>> Quick Shot, even in that build. Quick Shot is useless. Period. Ɲ oɕʈɋɽɕɧ  16:21, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * But WotA doesn't work for bows anymore. Vili &#x70B9; [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 19:07, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I am nostalgic *sigh*. Well, at least we have any other elite. Ɲ oɕʈɋɽɕɧ  19:36, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Read the idea, and fired up a build-builder... heres my idea: A/R (full crit and marksman) *quickshot *Way of the master *critical eye* critical defences *critical agillity *disrupting accuracy * *res sig *way of perfection think that'll work?
 * submit it on pvx, they'll be glad you did. this is a highly original idea, never seen before &mdash; μαφλεσ 18:01, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Anything will work, even the stupidest ideas will, however, the degree of workability differs among these ideas and so some are much better than others.--Underwood 19:48, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

WTB
"5 energy, 1sec activation, 1 sec recharge; Elite Bow Attack: Moves twice as fast. Unblockable if target foe is (insert easy condition to meet here; using a skill, maybe?)." Or maybe just unblockable? I dunno if that would be overpowered, but right now the only use for this skill is chaining 1-second cast bow attacks, and Melandru's Shot does that better anyway. --70.158.147.35 16:48, 18 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Seriously, i wouldn't even bother taking this if it were non-elite. (though, it as to be said that some non-elite ranger skills are way op :> 82.75.192.76 21:17, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * If you think into logic, the faster a projectile, the better the penetration would be to it's target. It'd be cool if it added 10-20% armor pen. Magic  [[Image:User Magic Icon.jpg|19px]] Talk  21:47, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

aftercast
No more quickshot teams! thank god that overpowered shit got finally nerfed.134.109.89.1 03:12, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
 * What was the point of nerfing this in PvE? Also, if one profession is exploiting another profession's elite, how is it fair to nerf it? There are so many overpowered Sin skills, this seems like a cheap way to avoid fixing an overpowered class. Xiaquin Crystal_Snowflake.png 06:25, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Sin builds are overpowered because they have next to nothing in terms of defense. They're a proffesion thats built around pure and complete total killing power. True to an their namesake, theyre supposed to pop in, kill, and pop out. --Briar 06:42, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
 * This skill was "nerfed" (well it has been pretty dead to begin with) cuz they added the aftercast to every 1sec activation bow attack so this was just some "mass effect" 78.34.103.246 07:33, 29 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Next to nothing in defense? Have you looked at the skill list? They can easily block, gain armor, reduce damage taken, regen, self-heal, self remove conditions and hexes on top of shadow stepping. They are hardly glass cannons. Xiaquin Crystal_Snowflake.png 19:33, 29 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Doesn't matter. Fact is Quick Shot doesn't deserve its status as an Elite, especially after they nerfed it. Called shot does the same thing, and it even moves 3x faster, not 2x.

Disabling
It appears they have bugged this skill up for now, since it disables other attack skills just like needling shot (2sec). Or perhaps this is a yet undocumented change? Hopefully not. Deluriam 11:14, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I think it is a bug, as it didn't mention in the description to disable other skills, the added description only add after-cast only. Please fix this skill. Gusnana1412 23:03, 29 January 2010 (GMT+1)
 * In the latest skill update they say that they have changed Quick Shot to disable other skills, it isn't a bug. Can we please remove the bug status? Neora 12:44, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
 * No, they didn't. The only thing they said was changed is the added aftercast, it doesn't mention anything about disabling skills. &mdash;  Mini Me 13:10, 31 January 2010
 * There's going to be an update later today to fix the bug. See User:Regina Buenaobra/Journal. --Silver Edge 21:09, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Victim of Powercreep Skills
An old pre-Nightfall setup for my hornbow ranger. Miss the good ol' days...218.186.8.250 08:40, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
 * That's an energy devourer, not viable unless you have BIP.

Activation Time
I just went to test it, and the activation time is 1 second like the description states, not 1/2 like the wiki note states. Someone should remove the note. 81.206.12.232 08:42, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Refer to Activation_time. The note is factually accurate, but could use clarification. - [[Image:User HeWhoIsPale sig.PNG]] HeWhoIsPale 13:28, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Are you saying that if you interrupt quick shot at 0,6 second, it will nicely purple out the activation bar, but the arrow is already fired? 81.206.12.232 08:50, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Hmmmmmm......
Ignite Arrows and this. BOOM! BOOM! BOOM! BOOM! BOOM! barrage with less proximity ,and faster. Scar Of The Lotus 00:13, 3 April 2011 (UTC)