Feedback talk:Game updates/20110303

Yay
"Added a "Ready" status drop-down box to the party window." Finally...thank you. --Dominator Matrix  21:50, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Damnit, now I'm second... BOOO Ghosst  [[Image:User_Ghosst_Ghosst_Sig.jpg|19px|I Make Dead People]]  •  Talk  •
 * Two title changes i've been waiting for - J.P.[[Image:User J.P. sigicon.png| ]] Talk  21:55, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Giving away 10k minutes of drunkard last month? Bad idea. Update? Fucking awesome. ThrainUser_Thrain_Sig.png contribs 21:56, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * WHOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!-- Briar  User Briar Sig 3.jpg  The Spider  21:58, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Aww, and I just finished it the old fashioned way a few weeks ago. xD  Oh well!  I think my favorite is the "Heroes now organized by profession"  YESSSSS~  128.113.201.222 22:27, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Look at the bright side - you can sue Anet for repetitive stress injury from double-clicking all the alcohol (I also completed it the hard way, but I'm ok with an update). Ghosst  [[Image:User_Ghosst_Ghosst_Sig.jpg|19px|I Make Dead People]]  •  Talk  •
 * Just to clarify, I have no issues with the Drunkard update. :)  128.113.201.222 14:17, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Drunkard
So, Does this mean they work like Sweets/Party points? Where you can just sit there and spam till max? -- Briar    The Spider  21:59, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Looks like it! Shadow Runner  22:00, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Tested, Now Spammable. GG anet!!! -- Briar  User Briar Sig 3.jpg  The Spider  22:18, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Makes all that time I spent soul-crushingly double-clicking every couple of minutes seem worthwhile ;-) Actually, you know what? I can't even be mad about it, I just wish I'd known this change was coming :p  And the rest of the update makes me all happy anyway, so yay! -- Splodge of Cat 22:32, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Even though I already maxed this on one character I still love this change. I killed the time involved by chest running out of Boreal Station and the zoning kept ticking off drunk minutes at random.  It was a pain to keep track of.  I ended up wasting a bit of alcohol because of that. --Valshia 22:40, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm glad I waited on the drunkard track. I knew they would do something with it eventually, Just didn't think they'd actually be smart about it. XD -- Briar  User Briar Sig 3.jpg  The Spider  22:44, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * This it totally gay. All those people who got their drunkard the old fashioned way should get a 'real drunkard' title. While all titles achevied after this point should be named 'poser' or something of that nature.  Em Jae  22:53, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm just happy it isn't such a headache anymore. I've gotten halfways and seriously wouldn't have picked it up again if it wasn't for this. -Cursed Angel File-User Cursed Angel Signature3.jpg 22:56, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * You didn't have to do it. Don't whine that they made a terrible title less terrible, and in fact, made it awesome and cool.-- Briar  User Briar Sig 3.jpg  The Spider  23:03, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I maxed it before the update, but I'm fine with it. Might max it on another character now. Manifold [[Image:User_Manifold_Neptune.jpg|19px]] 23:19, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * It's now great that we can sell all those 1pt alcohol that everyone used to hate. Batchie 23:28, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * i'm really not fine with this. while i really love this update, it makes me feel furious. i got this title about month ago, while i was sitting like idiotic headless chicken watching at my stop watch and clicking (before i realise that i can program double click to click alone every 3 minutes, but anyway)...i'm generous so i tell that is not so awfull (considering really big time waste) as much as my electric bill, for having to have my computer on god knows how many nights in a row. drunkard change freaks me out! --Ireth Tassartir 01:27, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * It's a game, relax. It matters a total of nothing in any sense. Popnfresh 05:53, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm just glad to finally have room in my monk's inventory again. Had a bag and a half full of alcohol that I never really got around to using. But now I have space with no loss. And you know what, there are more people who don't have drunkard than who do, and the ones who don't really love it :) FleshAndFaith 09:03, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I Just have one thing to say: PFFFFFFFAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!! 68.193.122.145 12:01, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * It doesn't really affect me much, but I think maybe they should have warned us of something like this. They could say, "Hey, we're considering making this change, but we're not ready to implement it yet. You can go ahead and get the title now, or you can stockpile and wait for the update." Then, instead of, "I just finished it last night, AAARRGH!!!" people could say, "Well, at least I have the title and don't have to wait for the update." Just my thoughts. --RoyHarmon 16:49, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

(Reset indent) is there any math that they've shown or how they calculated peoples' existing minutes into points? because i'm not quite sure it's a very good equation, so before i get irritated i'd like to know what others have found out. (went from 2k+ drunkard minutes to little over 500 drunkard points)


 * That seems unlikely. Everyone I know was converted exactly with 1 minute = 1 point. I had a toon that was a few drinks away from the title before the update; they remain the exact number of drinks away. — Tennessee Ernie Ford ( TEF ) 05:37, 5 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Meh...at least distinguish between people who earned Drunkard (and Survivor) the hard way. If I had known this was coming I hadn't spend hours and hours with alarm clocks on my desk gaining that drunkard title while vanquishing.--Fogeltje 11:55, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Survivor yes.
 * Drunkard lolno. User A F K When Needed Signature Icon.jpg A F K  When  Needed 12:23, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Wow
Just. Wow. Did not expect anything close to this. Minion UI? Hell yes. Survivor title track change? Awesome. Embark Beach? Kickass. After the extensive Dervish change, this is just a fantastic update to log into. Shadow Runner  22:00, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Agreed. -- Briar  User Briar Sig 3.jpg  The Spider  22:01, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * This humble ip thinks this is probably the best update in years. He also thinks the best was probably the release of Prophecies 79.169.40.212 22:17, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * You're a godsend, mr. Stumme! Now please make tonics spammable as well. Thanks! Idmz 22:25, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll choose to interpret this in the best possible way. Manifold [[Image:User_Manifold_Neptune.jpg|19px]] 22:26, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I see lots of feedback space suggestions in this build. Not that it will stop the bitching. -- <font color="#0104C6">FreedomBound [[Image:User_Freedom_Bound_Sig.png|19px]] 22:50, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Idmz, making tonics spammable would create a lot of lag whenever someone tried spamming them because they would be changing character models every split second, so its best that they aren't. Plus they're cool anyway so why waste them? (aside from the tons farmed during Wintersday) -- [[Image:User_Kirbman sig.png]] Kirbman 05:20, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Because I like my armor and hate having to use tonics?-- Briar  User Briar Sig 3.jpg  The Spider  05:21, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * *cough* --ஸ Kyoshi [[Image:User_Kyoshi_sig2.png|19px]] 05:33, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * The hero profession ordering was reported as a bug before you created your suggestion. --Silver Edge 06:43, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Why oh why could they not have told everyone about this update BEFORE they released it. 2 days before this update i sold about 60 stacks of eggnogs due to the massive ammount of people who had somehow heard this update was coming and were hoarding them for the tiny price they were selling for. TY ANet.

Errors
Is anyone else not able to update their game? It keeps downloading the change, but then crashes before it can install anything. 68.42.74.31 22:03, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Ignore previous comment please. Had to run the game as an admin.  68.42.74.31 22:05, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Login
You can now log in as Online, Away, DnD and Offline :D. Small touch, but nice to have!
 * Prolly put there for folks like Lindsey who get mobbed by chat at login within the 4 seconds it takes to set Offline.

Heroes
\o/ ! Up to 7 heroes but..... only 3 flags to manage move/position ? may i wish 7 flags ? ;o) 82.239.162.102 22:34, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * No, you may not. As stated in the developer update pages, the last 4 heroes will be linked to the command all flag to so that all hero teams will not be as strong as all player teams. They had to keep some incentive for players to still play together. --Musha [[Image:User_Musha_Sigc.png|19px]] 22:39, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Good to know ANet is still paying attention to GW1 :P  'H'aunted   'S'hadow   22:41, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * i wonder when GW2 is out, will we still get updates like these. --Ireth Tassartir 01:20, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm at work at the moment so I can't test this out right now, but although Heroes #5 - 8 don't have individual flags, can you still open up their skill bars in explorable areas and command them to use specific skills? - Zaxares 02:13, 4 March 2011 (UTC) yeah you can open each skill bar :) love the updates good job anet!

Disconnect
D: can't reconnect now -- The Holy Dragons 22:45, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * someone else having this too? --User The Holy Dragons sig.png The Holy Dragons 22:46, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Yep me! urgh i was just going reaaaly fast in vizunah with 14 hero's :p --<font color="Goldenrod">Rhonin User Rhonin Soren sig.png<font color="Goldenrod">Soren 22:51, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Still unable to open game, keep getting error --<font color="Goldenrod">Rhonin User Rhonin Soren sig.png<font color="Goldenrod">Soren 23:23, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Re-installing from site helped --<font color="Goldenrod">Rhonin User Rhonin Soren sig.png<font color="Goldenrod">Soren 23:24, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Minion UI
I don't see it? Thepoisonx 22:48, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Pres "Y" --<font color="Goldenrod">Rhonin User Rhonin Soren sig.png<font color="Goldenrod">Soren 22:49, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Or, if you've mapped "Y" to another function then there is no key assigned to it. So, under controls, go to Panel: Open Minion List and give it a key. --Musha [[Image:User_Musha_Sigc.png|19px]] 23:13, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

WooT Minions and spirits UI! Beleeth 01:04, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Asuran summons, (at least, the ice imp) do not show up in this monitor? Is this intended behavior? I though they were technically minions... deltaalphanova 06:39, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * They are summons, different mechanic than spirits and minions.--<span style="color: darkblue; font-family: Old English Text MT, script; font-size:110%">Neithan Diniem User Neithan Diniem Sig.png]] 15:34, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

A minute of silence for pre-update pre-searing defenders
So many awesome changes that i didn't expect to happen anymore in this update. Guess i should have waited some more weeks before starting the drunkard title, lol. I kinda feel sorry for those which spend 10.000 minutes on that one now...let alone those of them which were lurking around in pre-searing with level 20 - 1000 XP for the daily quests, it must really hurt to see that after your character acted as Charr punching bag for hundreds of hours to acquire this title :D &mdash;Zerpha The Improver 22:57, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Fronis is gonna get a massive ass-kicking. -- Briar  User Briar Sig 3.jpg  The Spider  23:04, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * thanks for the minute (returns to crying in a dark corner) --User The Holy Dragons sig.png The Holy Dragons 23:04, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm glad that I got mine before the update. Now I can join the hipsters in saying, I was drunkard BEFORE the update! --Musha [[Image:User_Musha_Sigc.png|19px]] 23:11, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * true ^^ --User The Holy Dragons sig.png The Holy Dragons
 * what's the point, cause now everyone will lie that they did it before update. also for drunkard. people will be unhapy or feel less worthy if they say they did it after update. noone likes to fell less worthy in competetive games :P question of morality really :P --Ireth Tassartir 01:18, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I am proud of all of my 134,188 deaths. Asuka 02:38, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Someone needs to get rid of that now-obsolete "Strategy Guide" on the Defender page then.  -- ilr [[image:User_ilr_deprav.png]] 23:17, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Why? It's still a valid strategy to get Legendary Defender on it own 195.183.80.137 12:07, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Well they can always go for legendary survior in pre now :P if they want their ldoa character to look more special in pre :P--83.178.192.226 13:08, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Terrain/Texture Quality?
I was in a Prophecies outpost and noticed the terrain looked really blotchy so I hit F11 to check my settings. It was still on high but I notice the noticeable change happens between "low" and "medium" like it's capped now at medium. Setting it to high produces no change, everything looks grainy now, including the loading screen graphics. WAT DO?? -- ilr  22:58, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Mine actually looks like it belongs on my 1080p monitors now. Was wondering about it, but didn't want a nerf. :-/ Ghosst</I>  [[Image:User_Ghosst_Ghosst_Sig.jpg|19px|I Make Dead People]]  •  Talk  •
 * I don't know about the loading screens, mine look fine. But he is right about the terrain. Medium and High are identical! They nerfed the texture and I can notice it's stuck at medium, it looks horrible! Hopefully it was a mistake or bug and it'll bee fixed in a hotfix patch soon. - 24.0.186.60 00:54, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, thanks for confirming! (it wasn't just my hardware). -- ilr [[image:User_ilr_deprav.png]] 00:59, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Texture sizes seem the same yes, but for example the environment map on the floor of the Imperial Isle seems different between high and medium. Also what you are describing is more about texture filtering Asuka 02:41, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Rare bug on ATI cards, restarting your computer will help. --numma_cway 19:53, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Mercenary Heroes

 * I just noticed it said "Any character level 20 or above" in the store.
 * lol @ that. maybe they planning on increasing lvl cap, which they shouldn't. it would be a reeeeeal mess. --Ireth Tassartir 01:13, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Also, is there any info on how these mercs look and act? Do they get the armor you have on when you register them, or do they have changeable armor? Can they use pve only skills since they come from players? 74.15.199.138 23:03, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Developer Update - Destination: Embark Beach
 * Sorry, I also forgot to sign previously. My understanding is that you get a visual copy of your character w/o runes/skills to equip and use as a hero. Thus, I doubt there will be PVE skills available. 66.170.212.17 23:22, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * only real down side to all this is the fact that none of the mercenaries have weapon to use....-- BobbyT [[Image:User_BobbyT BobbyT_Sig.jpg|19x19px|User Talk: BobbyT]] 23:20, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Fun side-effect : if your mercenary hero is based on your character John Doe and you use him on your character Jane Doe, the hero John Doe can't use weapons customized for John Doe.84.101.140.84 23:33, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * that's kinda normal but I hope it gets fixed I've got lots of custom torms etc. XD --User The Holy Dragons sig.png The Holy Dragons 23:34, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * if some are wondering: mercs start with no insigneas/runes, no weapons and no equipped skills by default. besides that, they behave like normal heroes(braindead, share drops, has a hero panel, etc)--meheezen 23:38, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * the only point of this so far as i can see that is worth something is to have more than 3 heroes from each prof.. example u have 3 more necros, you can have up to 6 Discord/Sabway or combination. Powerfull!--Ireth Tassartir 01:13, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, darn, I was excited for the mercenary heroes but it's not really worth ten bucks to get a reskin of Norgu. xD  (Or whoever else.) 128.113.201.222 14:22, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Not a reskin of your heroes, reskin of your other toons wearing costume or not. [[Image:Dervish-tango-icon-20.png|19px]] <font face="Papyrus">Devi Talk 14:51, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * That's too bad you don't get the weapon they have on... idm so much for runes, this makes it easier to change it like you want, but even Koss came with a weapon customized to him. Please I hope they will add this in another update, their weapons are part of their look! [[Image:Iboga Blossom.png|25px]]<font color="#872187">Lady Minuit 16:14, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * If they gave your merc heros the weapons on that actual character, what's to prevent you from taking those weapons off of him/her and using them on your character? That would be weapon duplication. 165.91.241.223 17:05, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * If the weapons were customized just to that hero than no one else can use it... which they "could" have done. For some reason I thought merc heroes would be "cooler" in a way... I still might buy a couple of slots, like maybe 3 for 20$ doesn't sound bad.  I can't imagine the need for 8 slots since, about the only professions I want more of is another Necro and Rit at the most... and maybe a Ele to do snowman caves.  There's already enough of other professions.  --<font color ="#8b0701">Lania  [[Image:User Lania Elderfire pinkribbon.jpg]]17:31, 04 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Devi, I meant that aside from having more than 4 players of a single profession in a team, the mercenary heroes don't have any value besides how they look. If I make one of my mesmer, he'll still play just like Norgu... he'll just look cooler.  ^^  129.161.37.217 18:50, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

LDoA and Survivor
I'm happy with and grateful for most of the changes, but there is one thing in the update which may be a problem. The mutuality of Legendary Surivior and Legendary Defender of Ascalon was essential in order to keep up fairness. Now that they are no longer mutual (I guess), Tyrian characters can gain +1 additional title compared to their Canthan and Elonian peers. This gives them an edge in title grinding. I believe this is something that should be amended. --Adul 00:08, 4 March 2011 (UTC) 66.170.212.17 00:17, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Shouldn't be an issue, since according to Hall of Monuments page "Rewards are unlocked on an account basis"
 * I think that he is looking more to the GWAMM title being 1 title easier to Tyrian characters. Lokheit 00:23, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * One long and extemely inefficient title that only gives 1 point.  If ya wanna play game, then look at the PvP title that gives 3 points and apparently can be bought outright (zkeys) -- ilr [[image:User_ilr_deprav.png]] 00:30, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, I was talking about GWAMM because that is what these 2 titles give a clear advantage for. I should have made that clear. --Adul 00:32, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * uh no, it's NOT a clear advantage. GWAMM caps at 30 titles. (leaving 8 extras?) ...1 extra that takes almost as long as LB and longer than Drunkard now is hardly an advantage unless you mean purely a 100% Aesthetic "I have 1 more title to grind than you do" as if the person who didn't roll in Prophecies some how gives a shit about titles in the first place.  Wouldn't a real completionist with an E-peen waggin complex start there anyway?  ...and don't bring appearance into it when that's a MicroTran option now too. -- ilr [[image:User_ilr_deprav.png]] 00:58, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * You didn't bring up too many points that were relevant to the argument. GWAMM caps at 30 titles and having 1 more title to choose from is an advantage. It's not a big advantage, but it is one nonetheless. One could for example skip drunkard/party animal/sweet tooth, saving about 500-700k worth of consumables. --Adul 01:25, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * they should make LDoA account wide title. I don't care much for HoM site as much as i want to have all titles on one toon. if not that, than i would at least wanna one time chance to be able to revisit presearing with my old toon. they can make it with condition to go there with empty inventory and to be treated as lvl 10 char before i exit again. --Ireth Tassartir 01:06, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I used to think that these title chances wouldn't even ever happen because of Adul's point. If you compare it's old state to the other titles available, i agree with you ilr. But the new LDoA is really easier than one of the money titles for instance. Or at least less monotonous :P If Anet wants to even that out, LDoA would either have to become an Account-wide title, or accessible for any character by some messy means as described by Ireth - through the possibiliy to return to pre with empty inventory, no armor, no weapons etc. Somewhat like if you enter a cult and have to shave off your hair and shit^^ &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 21:14, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Hmn I got my LDoA in 8 hours from lvl 16 to 20... all you need: the quest "Bandits" a char that can easiely beat the mobs that spawn always the same location (like Nec MM) <= lvl 17+, to get high level Mobs, just run and get the exp, maybe heal the MM. After reaching lvl 17, level with MM or Monk. Keep an eye on your questlog, leave 1 group alone (not nescessary if you run the shortest route to get 4/5 of them, depend on spawn), the quest stays still active if you just kill 5/6 of them. So this one isn't really hard anymore. :/ Pro in this case: My router reconnect every 8 hours... so i cant get this title by deathleveling. con: 8hours isnt much :) also: now I'm able to get all titles, before survivor + ldoa was only able for guys that used "bugs" like the candle thing fixed with factions --Kali Shin Shivara 04:29, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

You honestly think its possible for someone to get LDoA and Survivor on the same character within any reasonable time-frame? Survivor costs 1.3 Million plus change. These quests only offer 1k per day. Get a grip.-- Briar    The Spider  13:13, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
 * huh? wheres the problem? You can do it after you reach ldoa without any problems in the maingame (as i do). Also: after reaching lvl 17 you can get it in team but it takes a long time. About 3 years for survivor 3 + ldoa in pre-searing. But I guess, some of these guys gonna make both title --Kali Shin Shivara 14:06, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Mini-Map (U) and Hero Commander Binds
Anyone else have trouble with that not keeping its position? Every time I close and reopen the client it resets its position. Ghosst</I>   •  Talk  •
 * Same here. Judas 00:35, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * yea...lol i forgot to sign. i think its every time you swap toons... you have to realign it.-[[Image:User_Zesbeer_sig.png|link=User talk:Zesbeer‎]] Zesbeer 00:50, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * mine is working just fine. it opens at same place i close it in.--Ireth Tassartir 01:00, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Mine does it whenever I close the client and then restart it. It's odd. Ghosst</I>  [[Image:User_Ghosst_Ghosst_Sig.jpg|19px|I Make Dead People]]  •  Talk  •
 * Actually mine too. i did notice just after i restarted game.--Ireth Tassartir 03:04, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Mine as well, it's damn annoying. ThrainUser_Thrain_Sig.png contribs 03:25, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it keeps moving to the top left corner when I restart the game. Someone probably deleted something by accident, I hope they fix it soon. -- [[Image:User_Kirbman sig.png]] Kirbman 05:26, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Not only is the mini map resetting to upper left it is resizing as well, and the hero commander 4 through 7 binds are resetting on client restart. I have not tried to reset all binds and redo my entire bind list from scratch but if this is something that is not fixed soon I may attempt that work around to see if it changes anything. But if you read this and have the same problems with the hero commander binds (or other binds that you have changed since this update) please post so I know that I'm not the only one with the bug. Skekzyz 17:49, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure my mini-map and some other bits of the UI are resetting themselves, yeah. 129.161.37.217 18:51, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Ok, so I tried removing my macroable mouse (next test would be to remove the software also,) restoring defaults then re-entered all my binds. Panel: Open Hero Commander 4-7 drop their binds completely. When I re-enter the 4 keys that I want bound they report being bound to other keys, not bindable commands. If after removing my Logitech software for the mouse the problem stays exactly the same I will have no other choice but to wait for my other pc to return from "the shop" to continue troubleshooting this. What I'm currently getting: P:OHC4 bind<\> shows, P:OHC5 bind shows<'>(single quote next to I think), P:OHC6 bind shows<\>, P:OHC7 bind shows (shows=what it is reporting as "Currently assigned to:" when I type that key into the bind box) It will take these binds but reset them to this after client restart. --Skekzyz 19:36, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Next test: Tried binding to F5-F8, restarted client, Open Hero Commander 4-7 drop their binds completely, and still report those exact keys as being bound to whatever you put in for a bind on the previous client run so I am thinking this is on Anet's side not mine. The problem as I see it currently is the bind is being pushed off to a key (specifically P:OHC4 drops to <Shift>, P:OHC5 drops to <'>(single quote next to I think), P:OHC6 drops to <\>, P:OHC7 drops to <Caps Lock>) instead of the command it should be associated with, and when you restart, it sees whatever key you bound each one P:OHC4-7 as the key that it's pointing to not the command that it should be. So something is really wonky in the code for the bind system, which would be better if we could use ctrl/shift/alt mods but that's a different gripe altogether. --Skekzyz 20:08, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Oolas Lab Bug
The first Gate in Lvl 1 Oola HM is bugged... you cant open it, cause Xien didn't spawn before the first gate... when you wanna enter the first gate in oola lvl 1... he didn't spawn, door keeps closed... --Kali Shin Shivara 00:40, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Did you have the quest needed to do the dungeon? -- Konig / talk 00:56, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * yep... i got it...
 * also - 2-3 hour before the update i played with hayda, mhenlo + lina (+norgu, olias, gwen) form longeyes legde, the whole group wiped out, hayda + aidan stay alive... but i got NO RESPAWN, both NSC got NO Rezsignet anymore. Map was also clear of mobs (in placed the should spawn, when i control them), i could run (flag) them over the whole map but didn't find any mobs on places where mobs should are.. --Kali Shin Shivara 00:59, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * A friend noticed - he fails without a reason in underworld at the "Wrathful Spirits" Quest, "Mayor Alegheri" wasn't under attack but the quest failed without a reason. --Kali Shin Shivara 01:00, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * are you sure you didn't lose all the friendly spirits? Common way to fail UW there. 71.146.92.253 04:04, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Zaishen Vanquisher
it would be really really cool if they can connect Zaishen Bounty with ZVQ. i anyway VQ areas when i have bounty. imagine happiness when bounty is in same area as VQ. wouldn't need x months to get 15 gold zcoins :P --Ireth Tassartir 01:38, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Just grab the bounty and hold it til its the vanquish too. -- [[Image:User_Kirbman sig.png]] Kirbman 05:28, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Embark Beach
Although I personally have always voiced my desire to have some sort of an auction house, I think that this is the better addition to the game. It has always been difficult to get in groups. Having a central area to quickly get people together will hopefully get more people to play together, which has been a weakness in GW in my opinion. (even if you can use 7 heroes!!) 98.124.14.88 03:22, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I just worry that no one is going to use it. Power WM [[Image:Elementalist-tango-icon-200.png|19px]] 03:42, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Friends List Bug
Anyone else having issues with their friendslist, like noone is on, and i know they are becasue they've PMed me and they're also Online in the guild, And no they've all haven't switched to offline mode, but other people have reported this issue as well.


 * I too have been having this problem. I find that by quickly re-logging in, it usually fixes itself. This will have to do until they fix the bug. --ScorpDeception63 17:13, 7 March 2011 (UTC)


 * There's something weird going on, I think... One of my other accounts was listed as logged in in the Guild Roster when it wasn't.  I logged into that account on a different character and it still said that the first one was logged in.  Didn't come back into sync with reality until the character it thought was logged in actually was.  Friends list weirdness is probably the same thing :S -- Splodge of Cat 08:04, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

a very BIG thanks
goes to anet for this impressive update! Also keeping in mind they are very busy with gw2... good to see gw1 is not put on the shelf :) --  Pixy | Talk 06:49, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, a very BIG THANK YOU! MystiLefemEle 10:54, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * THANK YOU! :D --madhatter 11:45, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Put my vote in, after this and the Dervish update, I'm in heaven!! [[Image:Dervish-tango-icon-20.png|19px]] <font face="Papyrus">Devi Talk 12:31, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, the GW1 live team has really outdone themselves lately. Good job. --Adul 14:57, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Rare Scroll Trader
Is it just me or did the Rare Scroll Traders stop selling experience scrolls? I checked several outpost in diffrent districts but only the acces to FoW and all those scrolls are sold. Are they sold out or did Anet remove them? Wanted to start getting survivor on my main, wich will be a lot harder now. H A M S T E R T J E 12:02, 4 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Most likely sold out since you're not the only one who wants to start on Survivor now ;) --84.24.127.220 12:11, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Party Templates
Who else thinks that a functionality where you can load a set of heroes and their bars from a template would be awesome? Because we're not lazy enough already. I'm not saying this update was inadequate - let's be honest, it's above and beyond expectations - but perhaps this would be good fodder for the next one. Sponge 19:20, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * It would be nice, as well as the ability to remove all the vigor runes on heroes not in my party, so I don't have to look through them all to find them. <font color="#008800">Manifold [[Image:User_Manifold_Neptune.jpg|19px]] 00:14, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

afk option in party panel
If they'd add 'afk' to the ready/not ready dropdown i'd be even happier =) 82.73.239.176 23:02, 4 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Actually, that might get used more than the ready checkmark. (Although, once people get used to its utility, I think we will see it used more often.) — Tennessee Ernie Ford ( TEF ) 00:23, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

A bunch of feedback
After playing over the weekend, here's a bunch of random feedback. Overall I just love the build, but there are still a few rough edges. I hope your WoC schedule permits a bit more polishing before moving on. . I don't have a free char slot to check. Thanks a lot dear Live Team, I'll make sure to support your work with microtransactions! Tub 13:12, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Love my 7 heroes. Will take me a while to figure out the perfect builds, which is fun!
 * Having 7 hero windows onscreen takes up a lot of screen space. Any effort to compress the information would be greatly appreciated.
 * A simple way to toggle window title and borders on and off (e.g. by clicking on the face icon) would help a lot, instant ~30% reduction of vertical space.
 * supporting multiple monitors and the ability to drag hero windows, mission map and chat to the second monitor would be awesome, though I know it won't happen ever. :(
 * The hero windows for heroes 4-7 randomly disappear when changing instances. I hope that can be fixed.
 * Has the dialogue in Quiz the Recruits been changed? "especially since you can have only three Heroes with you at any given time"
 * Haven't had the chance to test Mercenary Heroes yet, but I do look forward to replacing Norgu and Olias with someone more visually appealing.
 * Embark Beach. Nice!
 * Yay for Zaishen Vanquish, even though I finished my legendary vanquisher a while ago. Could you add the sign to Temple of Balthazar, too? And the Zaishen Combat to embark beach? Bounties of Competitive missions etc are interesting for many PvE chars, too.
 * Me dreaming again: add Wanted by the Shining Blade to Embark Beach/GToB, too. I suppose it's difficult to check whether the requirements (ability to access Lion's Arch Keep) are met?
 * Travel NPCs: removing travel from the usual travel interface (the map) doesn't feel intuitive. I understand that technical issues prevent you from using the perfect solution, but something similar to this should have been possible? Just adding Temple of the Ages and Chantry of Secrets would allow us to 2-step-travel anywhere without disbanding the party in Kamadan or resorting to pure text-menus.
 * The long hikes on embark beach make me wish for Master of Winds or an everlasting fruitcake. The layout is awesome to hang out, chat and group up, but not so much to pop in, grab the daily quest, sell stuff, and keep moving.
 * The other UI updates (Minion Panel, Ready status, ..): simple ideas that are incredibly useful. Nice!
 * Titles: nothing that affects my characters, but good changes none the less.
 * Master of the Winds was an awful idea. 68.193.122.145 16:50, 7 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Can't imagine why you'd wanna replace one of the best looking Necro sets in the game with some random player armor. -- ilr [[image:User_ilr_deprav.png]] 03:08, 9 March 2011 (UTC)