Talk:Everlasting Sinister Automatonic

Fact check
How do we know it's rarer than other everlasting tonics? Do we know that P.O.X, N.O.X, or R.O.X. can all drop it? Also, IMO we should ask if it was added in the September 4th update. -- Gordon Ecker 10:33, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I suppose it has the same z-chest drop rate as every other everlasting tonic. if anybody got this tonic from one of those golems, it's almost certain that the other two golems do so as well. but where's the thread to this? who found it as loot? I didn't even know that these golems have any drops, as they turn friendly before you can kill them. &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 11:21, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * That's true; drops neverf ever compes from the living. Backsword 01:58, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Backsword wtf is ur language? neverf? compes? =) Mr-HaXx 07:06, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

anyone have a screen as proof?
havn't seen anyone with this tonic in kamadan trying to sell one and nor have i heard anyone talk about it in local from the high-end (rich) players i know. screen shots of this dropping from the zchest would be well appreciated. thanks! --Uchiha Lena 05:21, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It's currently in the gw.dat file, but no NPC offers it and no Monster drops it.71.30.167.237 19:59, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

LOL
its possible you just have to be really lucky my mate got 1 but hes not selling theres only like 6 out there --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:124.182.90.51 (talk).
 * then have him or yourself post a screen? /imageshack.us --Uchiha Lena 19:17, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * lies. This tonic does not currently drop from ANYTHING ANYWHERE - [[Image:User Linsey Murdock sig.jpg]]Linsey talk 19:18, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Ups, called out. Misery  19:39, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * "does not currently drop", but it is in the game, true? is that a hint???--58.179.48.168 08:23, 13 October 2008 (UTC)--WikiWu 08:24, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * If by "in the game" you mean "in the source code but not referenced anywhere" then yes. There isn't any way to get the thing, but it does technically exist should we decide to allow players to get it some how. - [[Image:User Linsey Murdock sig.jpg]]Linsey talk 16:24, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

You could always add 10 coffer of whispers like items to the reward for the golem quest, and make this a hugely rare drop from those.  Krak  en  17:16, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * It is in game seen it must talk with linsey to find out 100% but gyuy did say it droped for z chest during wintersday.   http://img120.imageshack.us/my.php?image=proofsinsterxb9.jpg --Therangergod 03:27, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Pics or it didn't happen. 100k says he's lying. - Auron 03:25, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Guess you owe someone 100k, eh? :D DarkNecrid 04:24, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Do all everlasting tonics have green text? Aba Malatu means Forbidden Truth  04:37, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Confirmed
Everlasting sinister tonics are in existance, they were added with the EL Mischievious tonic. The drop rate for them is the same as the drop rate for EL Mischievous and EL Transmog, in other words much much rarer than the monthly tonic. I have screenshots taken, as well as inventory use, I will post them in 3 days, assuming the user on Guru will allow me to post. (TealDawn 13:55, 16 January 2009 (UTC))
 * Confirmed by Linsey ~ Kurd [[Image:User Kurd sig.png]] 23:55, 16 January 2009 (UTC)