User talk:Salome/June 08 - Sept 08

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test
Hmm... I think this looks better than the infinty symbow we currently use. *ponders* -- Salome 03:20, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * [[Image:User Aiiane Infinity.png|21px]]yup, think i like aiiane's more -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 04:12, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * takin 2 urself? not a good sign--Sum Mesmer Guy[[Image:User sum mesmer guy signiture.png‎|19px|Talk to me NOW!! DO IT!]] contribs 06:55, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I think It's okay. -- NUKLEAR  [[Image:User NuclearVII signature 3.jpg|19x19px]] IIV  13:26, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, man. -- NUKLEAR  [[Image:User NuclearVII signature 3.jpg|19x19px]] IIV  13:26, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey nuke, been a while, old dog! -- NUKLEAR  [[Image:User NuclearVII signature 3.jpg|19x19px]] IIV  13:26, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I was wondering what you was upto? -- NUKLEAR  [[Image:User NuclearVII signature 3.jpg|19x19px]] IIV  13:26, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Wanna catch up, you know, the old way? -- NUKLEAR  [[Image:User NuclearVII signature 3.jpg|19x19px]] IIV  13:26, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * SURE! -- NUKLEAR  [[Image:User NuclearVII signature 3.jpg|19x19px]] IIV  13:26, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Isn't there an actual character that you can get for infinite using alt symbols on the keyboard or an &something; combination? &mdash;  ク  Eloc  貢  01:32, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * &#x221E; which is &amp;#x221E; - it's a unicode character, though. [[Image:User Aiiane-a.gif|Go to Aiiane's Talk page]] (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 02:40, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Aiiane's looks way better -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 04:18, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the comment Salome, i'll bear that in mind. I really have no idea how to use wiki, i'd like to make a user page but that all seems waaaaay beyond me. Anyway, thanks again (wasnt sure I should reply in my talk page or here or what...)Tauntedflail 13:39, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * you can respond on either but its probably better to respond in the same thread as the original message, so in this case that would have been your own talk page. As for the user page any help i can offer i will.-- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 17:21, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi
Hi, please log in before making me look like a fool and giving you instructions on your anonymous talk page :/ -- Brains12 \ talk 14:09, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * ROFL. I'm so sorry. I had logged in on one page but i forgot that i had opened the other pages before logging in and thus when i signed it gave my ip. LOL, I'm such a fanny. Does it help any, that if i were a new user, your wee message would make me think you are a helpful wee soul and it's still appreciated. ;) -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 14:13, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Well you weren't to know that it was him Pling :) -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 14:13, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Indeed, Anyway it was still a welcoming and helpful wee message and made me feel all welcome and involved. So yay to Plingggggg (I think it's 6 g's isnt it?) -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 14:15, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm willing to forgive you, seeing as you did get the right amount of Gs. :) --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 14:17, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * YAY! -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 14:19, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

HAHAHAHA!
I lol'd really hard at your message to the move bot to please not vandalize pages!-- Wynthyst 13:36, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL! Even bots need love. ;) -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 13:41, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Credit where it's due
I've changed the userbox so it refers to your page now. Thx for the permission :) --Elijah 08:11, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Whoops
D'oh! -- People of Antioch 20:40, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh balls didnt notice. Thanks for the heads up. :) -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 20:42, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Notable status
Heya Salome, my understanding of Notable is that the guild has to appear on they Arena Net notable page. Clandestiny of Solitude is not The Imperium of the Lazy Nation. Even though you have the article linked, I would have to disagree. (edit) You can of course revert me.-- Wynthyst 10:28, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't want to revert you, if I'm wrong, Wyn. So if you could guide me on this I would appreciate it. My reasoning was this: The article about Clandestiny is about the entire LaZy alliance, not just Clandestiny. As all the guilds are ran by the same person and any guild is taken to be one and the same as the lazy alliance, thus all are a part of lazy nation. The guilds are not considered to be separate entities, rather more parts of a greater whole. The reason LaZy haven't applied to be recognized again is because we have already been recognized through clandestiny. Thus using that reasoning I thought Lazy fell under notable guild/alliance. I understand that just because one of the guilds in an alliance is recognised shouldn't mean that all the guilds in said alliance are also recognised, but in instances where all guilds are ran by the same person and all members move freely through those guilds and the alliance is considered to be one big guild, would that then make it a different matter? Again I don't want to add LaZy to that page if it doesn't fit the requirements, as im not one of these people who feels comfortable pasting LaZy all over the wiki, I just want the category to be accurate. Any advice/oppinions you could offer on this would be appreciated as I am a wee bit confused by it. Its a shame we didn't know that you could apply for GotW as an alliance, as at the time, we thought you could only put forward individual guilds. -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 10:44, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, I didn't read through the entire Anet article, but, there was another alliance that was also recognized, so what I did with them was to tag all the guilds in the alliance, however, I would suggest (if it's not there) that a link to the ANet article be placed on each guild page as well since the link in the notice box is to the general Notable guilds page with just the alpha index and anyone going to look would not be able to find the individual guild names. I'm not trying to be difficult, and yes I want you to get the categorization as well, thank you for explaining the situation! --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wynthyst 10:52, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * While you are at it, you may want to make a mention that it was the ALLIANCE that was recognized and list Clandestiny by name to alleviate confusion.--[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wynthyst 10:59, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I understand completely Wyn and I agree with you. It's a shame we can't write to anet to get the title of the article changed but it seems a bit pointless to retroactively change it a year after it was written. I'll go through the guild wiki pages and tag it and update the page accordingly. -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 11:04, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know... I would think that ANet would be willing to do that. It might be at least worth asking Gaile about, for historical accuracy if nothing else.--[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wynthyst 11:07, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd prefer not to have the individual guilds in the notable section. That way, the notable category gets flooded by a host of redirects. It seems pretty clear from the article that it is the alliance lazy which is notable, not each individual guild in it. I also only found one page for lazy on the wiki, so that one should be listed, but not all redirects. --Xeeron 12:44, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * When I made the suggestions I didn't realize that none of the guilds had pages. The other alliance I mentioned all had individual pages already.--[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wynthyst 13:15, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not disagreeing with you, it's just I followed the same format as The imperial Guards, which has each of its guilds marked. The problem is, that the page which exists on the wiki at the moment is in fact a guild within LaZy, we don't actually have an overall Alliance page which would be more apt to put it on. However the guild which has an actual page on the wiki is not the same lazy guild as the one which is mentioned in the article header. Thus it may cause confusion. Also the LaZy guilds are about to undergo a change soon, in that each guild within LaZy is about to get it's own page in the coming month. So the redirects won't actually be there for that much longer. However if you would like me to change it, I don't mind and I will, as at the moment the whole notable guild category is confusing me. :) -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 13:20, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I only noticed the imperial guards after I made the edit here, but that one should not list each sub-guild as well. Otherwise the notable guild category gets ugly and confusing. For "super-guilds" that consist of more than one individual guild but are much more organised than a simple alliance, having one central page would be good. --Xeeron

I don't see it as being so much a problem with the Notable guilds category, as with the way ANet treats the Guild of the Week selection, since they don't limit it to individual guilds, but include alliances as well. I don't see how we can only put one page of an alliance into the category, if all the guilds are actually mentioned in the article, thus my choice to tag all The Imperial Guards pages (and I tagged the actual pages, not the redirects). I may be wrong, but somehow it doesn't seem fair otherwise. I guess I'm not so worried about how the category list looks.-- Wynthyst 13:51, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I think maybe I should make a main LaZy Alliance page and then have the individual guild pages off that, then that way I could taggy the LaZy Alliance page with the notable guilds tag and leave the individual guilds tag as normal tags. How does that sound? However we do have 17 guilds in our alliance now, so its gonna take a wee bit of reworking the current guild template to a minor degree. -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 13:55, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * That sounds good. From what I understand, both Lazy and TIG define themselves as one big guild (even though they span several ingame guilds), so one main page in the wiki would be best. If there is additional stuff that the guild-parts want to add, you can rework the main page into a portal to the sub-guild's pages. However I feel there is little doubt that ANet recognised the big guild as notable, not each individual part (So TIG is notable, but TIGx alone is not). --Xeeron 15:43, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Your guild's page
Just a quick note to let you know that under the Recruitment section of LaZy's page, it refers to perspective members. The word, I think, that you want is prospective. I'd change it myself, but I think your guild'd prefer it if someone from inside LaZy did it instead. :D Kokuou 10:43, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * thanks Kokuou, you're right of course, I didn't read it properly. As for editing, yeh we kinda had to clamp down on who edits it as we were getting vandalized on a semi-regular basis. -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 10:47, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No worries. :D I remembered the little vandalism breakout a while ago, so I opted to tell you instead. Kokuou 10:50, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, there are two more instances that need revising in the first paragraph. Kokuou 10:51, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I tell ya, Americans shouldn't be allowed to write guild entries. grumbles thanks for the heads up, I'll go through it and spell check it properly. :) -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 10:54, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Hai
Hi, I thought you should know on your mesmer's page I see you monk's pic instead. And the build is mending leetness. Ninjas In The Sky  10:57, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeh thanks for the heads up, not got round to updating them properly yet. As the build section is quite a new edition and takes manualy typing in skill names. -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 11:00, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * You're welcome :) Ninjas In The Sky  12:07, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Bcrat voting
Let me start by saying I have no intention nor desire to talk you out of your vote. I am curious though, why oppose? Quite a few of the votes so far have been surprising, but in particular I'm interested in the change from support last election to oppose this election. So, what's changed? - Tanetris 20:38, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Errr...pardon??? I haven't changed my vote. It's still a yay vote from me. Have i signed in the wrong place? I wasn't really paying attention when i voted on your page, as I got a phone call around the same time pestering me about double glazing. That will teach me to pay more attention when im voting. sorry about that. I'm still firmly in the Yay camp. Although I will be honest, I'm a wee bit conflicted about this election. You, Anja, Aiiane and brains are 4 of the users I respect most in this community, so out of the four of you I really dont know who I ultimately want to see win, but I'll be happy regardless. Anyway, I'm going to go and correct my vote. Can't believe i put it in the wrong place like a numpty. -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 23:21, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Lol. Nice job, Tanetris, you fixed things. I was wondering the same, although couldn't be bothered to ask you, Salome. Calor  [[Image:User_Calor_Sig.png|19px|Talk]] 00:05, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh, okay, in that case: thanks for the support! - Tanetris 01:20, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

First
I'm gonna resist! - Y0_ ich_halt  19:03, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Hiya
Yes, I managed to take elements from your page, but I don't quite no who to credit, just thought about making a very generalised "Thanks to those who I stole this from" box at the bottom or anything :P 000.00.00.00 22:51, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, and thanks for the welcome. 000.00.00.00 22:51, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that userbox. I shall attach it when I do more editing of my profile. [thumbs up] 000.00.00.00 23:03, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * no worries mate and once again welcome to the wiki! :) -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 23:04, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

hi
Can you stop using the word "people" to describe people? It's getting annoying! - Auron 23:32, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL, you sarcastic git! :) -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 11:52, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Critters? ^_^ --Star Weaver 15:04, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Just Noticed
I just noticed your in LaZy, I'm currently in BoDC (Kurzick LaZy guild), small world huh :PBaddock
 * LOL, yeh theirs loads of us about. I think theirs close to 1800 of us now. I'm the SO over in KoA. I'm probably one of the most active LaZy peeps on the wiki though, so you'll probably see me about more here than you will in game. -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 09:46, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Please...
...don't post comments like this one. Inciting others is in no way acceptable. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 10:34, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Everybody
was wiki kung-fu fighting! Those reverts were fast as lightning! Hyah! Kokuou 10:38, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * ROFLMAO!!!!!!! -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 10:38, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It was an ec.. relax. Let him calm down, and I will fix his talk page.--[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wynthyst 10:40, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I just fixed it :) everything is how it should be. The world is once more at peace. Feel the zenny-ness (If that's a word) -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 10:41, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Was mostly in reaction to him calling Aiiane a wiki ninja. :D Kokuou 10:42, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * And no, you didn't fix it, you just messed up the history even more. Just leave it be now please.--[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wynthyst 10:43, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * No really I did, the history may not be pretty but every comment which has been added is present. It's hard to revert properly when you have an addition from someone else after the revert. If you check it wyn, you'll find that all the comments that should be there, are there. -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 10:49, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually you missed several comments and in the process of just reverting, you were deleting comments he was adding when he was removing. I think I've got it all archived, but it was a mess that didn't need to happen, had my request to just leave him be to calm down been heeded.--[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wynthyst 11:09, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Errr Wyn, Ive went through the history and triple checked and I honestly dont think I missed anything, however if i did fair enough and my apologies. although for the life of me, I can't see what I missed to include -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 11:13, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Nope just checked again and still can't find any comments I missed, this is gonna bug me now til i find which comments I missed, as I thought I had been very thorough. *goes off to check history again* -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 11:16, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It's ok Salome, don't sweat it, I think I got everything into the archive, and it seems he has left GWW anyway.--[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wynthyst 11:38, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks Wyn, just was worried that I had accidentally been deleting the fella's comments and thus pissing him off even more. Thanks for catching anything I missed hun, it's appreciated. You're a star also! -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 11:41, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Kurzick article
Hi. Please note that, as you pointed, is a generic term to refer (even if in a derogative way) to such faction, same as Suxon for Luxon. I would like to request from you to re-add the line in the article given the informative nature of it. It's just the same issue as "wammo", after all.--Fighterdoken 23:34, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry fighterdoken, I respect your edits alot but I don't agree with you on this one. I don't think a derogative terms should count as note worthy enough to end up in then note section. It's not really informative. It's just a general comment about a general insult. Wammo is different as it defines an actual general build type and profession combo and can also indicate a form of play. "suxon" and "kurdick" however are just moronic insults you see thrown about in AB and the listing of this adds nothing to knowledge of those reading the article, where as the term "wammo" might add some understanding to an individual. However my stance on this may be wrong. Thus I would suggest that we ask one of the admins for their opinion on this. As we both have valid points, I would just like to see if others consider this kinda information pertinent to the article. -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 23:41, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Speaking as a user here as usual (as admins generally don't decide content), I think we should keep the Kurdick note. We document, we don't judge. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 23:43, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Seems like a good idea. In any case, and for the sake of consistency, we should have such line in both articles, or don't have the line in either of the articles. For the sake of 1RR, i would then request you to remove the line from the Luxon article until a decision is made about if it is indeed noteworty or not.--Fighterdoken 23:44, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * But how is adding an insult considered documentation? If everyone started calling Gaile a wanker in game, would we then have to add that to the Gaile article? I'm not saying that to troll, just using it as an example. -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 23:46, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree with you fighter (I'm actually a luxon myself and always have been). I wasn't reverting one and not the other to unbalance things, i only reverted the one cause i only noticed the one and after your message i didn't want to play with your edits until we had decided. -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 23:48, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I have to agree with Brains. "Suxon", "Kurdick", and "wammo" are all popularly used terms. Whether or not they are derogatory or negative is not for us to decide, but as they are popular and well-known terms, they should be documented as such. Salome: Probably, but that's a whole different situation... Calor  [[Image:User_Calor_Sig.png|19px|Talk]] 23:49, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay then guys, i stand corrected. I shall revert my revert. Sorry fighterdoken. :) -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 23:50, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * For your example, we don't document personal attacks against users or players; "Kurdick" and "Suxon" are different to "wanker" and such. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 23:50, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I would have to concur that both terms should be documented. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wynthyst 23:51, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I dont see the difference Brains. They are all personal attacks, it's just one attacks a group of people personally and the other aims at Gaile alone, but it seems that the consensus is that it should, so fair enough. :) -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 23:54, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Kurdick and Suxon are more derogatory terms than outright (or even subtle) attacks. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 00:03, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know mate, using those terms is basically calling someone a dick or saying they suck, either one seems like an attack to me, but i was probably just trying to be too PC. -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 00:06, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * One's a broad, negative stereotype, while the other is a blatant personal attack. Calor  [[Image:User_Calor_Sig.png|19px|Talk]] 00:07, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't see how ones better than the other. Racism can be labelled as a broad negative stereotype, doesnt make it any less insulting than a personal attack. -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 00:13, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * True. I have no way to explain the difference I see :( Calor  [[Image:User_Calor_Sig.png|19px|Talk]] 00:15, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL, its okay, i'm just playing Devil's Advocate. Their is a difference between the two, but at the same time, its hard to define what that difference is. -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 00:19, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

RC Flood!!!!!
Head for the hills! The RC is flooding! Good job btw. I don't know what it is about today, but EVERYONE and their brother (or sister) have been doing these big maintenance projects. -- Wynthyst 06:10, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * *hails nearest ark for escape from flood* :), yeh sorry about that Wyn, was very aware of the RC flooding. (if only there was a way to click "minor edit" on uploaded images) Finally though I've got ele's head pieces sorted out. Now only another 9 professions left to sort out fully. yay! -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 06:17, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Did you see my message????
Did you did you? -- Wynthyst 06:19, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh sorry my love, was dog sitting last night so wasn't really on as much as i wanted to be. If i could lend the monument mask, that would be much appreciated. I can be on whenever is convenient for you. -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 18:35, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Hear, hear!
Okay, I never EVER say this, but this totally warrants it: QFT. Kokuou 11:30, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Calor's RfA
"To be honest, I thought he was already a sysop" - Awesome :) Calor   03:19, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL, I honestly did get a wee shock when I saw your RFA, at first I thought you were reconfirming, but apparently not. You should get this easily matey as I'm sure theirs lots of peeps like me, who just assumed you already were a sysop. Anyway GL to you. :) -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 03:33, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Thx
Thanks for being neutral and not shooting me down automatically :D &mdash; Seru    Talk 03:28, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * No worries, I honestly just cant judge either way. I know you do alot for the wiki but the stuff you seem interested in doesn't seem to need admin tools for you to do it more effectively, however, on the other hand, I've seen you chat about stuff and you seem even handed and fair with people, so thus I don't think you would abuse the sysop powers either. thus why im sitting on the fence on this one. -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 03:32, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * As i see it im not going to get it. &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 03:37, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * If you don't get it this time round, i wouldn't take it to heart. All the comments seem quite positive in saying that probably in a couple of months they would vote for you if you take a more active interest in the internal workings part of the wiki and the like. I know it sounds a bit disheartening but at least people aren't just calling you a twat, like they would to me if I ever put my name forward. ;) -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 03:40, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * No but i've gotten votes against from people that are phailz unexperienced. &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 03:44, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL. again dont take it to heart. It's a learning experience and if you truly want to be a sysop take on the more pressing concerns from users and work from there. Once you've shown people a few months of the person you could be as a sysop, then i'm sure people will vote for you. On the wiki it really is never to late to grow and learn from what people say about you and then from there develop your skills accordingly. Personally I get too personally involved in wiki drama and I have a habit of taking things way too seriously and get really pissed at people, thus why I think I would make a shite sysop. That's why I'm sticking as a contributor. :) -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 03:48, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

First
Ohh... empty, fresh, like an open field of snow...

AND I'M WRITING MY NAME ON IT. -- NUKLEAR   IIV  14:52, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL, was waiting for that, my money was on either you, vael, morphin or Cursed getting to it first. lol -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 14:54, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * One reason why I never empty my talk page ;) -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png| ]] 15:49, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Testing new sig
Hmmm.... grown bored of old sig so thought I would test out a new one. Tell me what you think guys. --  Salome  12:48, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * better than the old one. also, use  instead of   or whichever it is :)> and i think GWW:SIGN says no big tags? - Y0_ ich_halt  [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 12:53, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Indeed it does, i didnt know the tag was going to do that actually,I'm such a numpty. lol Should have remeered not to use templates in my sig.Shows how tired I am. Hows this now? --  Salome  [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]] 12:59, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I deem it worthy of existing as the representative string of characters you use to assign a preceding comment to your person. - Y0_ ich_halt  [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 14:08, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Um... yeah. Right.
 * Anyway, I thought you were Silverleaf for a moment -- it's a little hard to read (and his sig is quite similar :P) --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|18px|]] Brains12 \ talk 14:16, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * And yeah, you shouldn't have the big tags in -- people without the font style will see it as their default font enlarged. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|18px|]] Brains12 \ talk 14:17, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL @ yo. Yeh Silverleaf himself has already commented on the fact that my sig bears certain...errrr.... similarities with his. *tries to pretend that I didn't copy him* . As it for it being hard to read, thats an odd one. I'm on my desktop and my laptop at the moment and on my desktop the sig is clear and crisp and easily identifiable, however on my laptop its all crooked and annoying. Hmmm....*ponders* EDIT: and poo forgot to take out the big markers, I'm so tired at the moment that my wiki coding is suffering and im making numpty-esque mistakes--  Salome  [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]] 14:21, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Are you sure you have the Vivaldi font installed on your desktop? --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|18px|]] Brains12 \ talk 14:34, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yup I think so as Ive got the big sexy curly S that I like displaying on both, its just ones resolution is better than the other. I'm working on changing my tag now though so its easier to read for everyone. -- Salome  [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]] 14:36, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * looks nice without italic. - Y0_ ich_halt  [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 14:38, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmmm.... Sereptina font on my desktop looks like times new roman. Does that mean i dont have that font installed then. -- Salome  [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]] 14:43, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay hows this? -- Salome  [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]] 14:46, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Bugger its now tiny! *sigh* *Ponders on a way to increase the size without buggering up anyone elses display* --  Salome  [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]] 14:49, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * See I think this: " Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]]" Looks better than this " Salome  [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]]", but yet I am making the text bigger which isnt allowed by policy. *sigh* --  Salome  [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]] 14:52, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) i know a cool font you could use. - Y0_ ich_halt  15:03, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * now you've changed your sig too. I like the classical feel of this sig, just not its size. Shame i cant make it bigger even slightly. -- Salome  [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]] 15:49, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * i changed my sig? didn't know that. anyway, i suggest you use wingdings :P - Y0_ ich_halt  [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 17:43, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL @ windings. I'm not a complete fanny -- Salome  [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]] 17:49, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Poo was trying to sign in wingdings for comedic irony but it wont let me. Damn you internet destroying my jokes! *shakes fist! -- Salome  [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]] 17:55, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * i'll give you an internets if you keep the current sig. - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 18:00, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I need MOAR internets! -- Salome  [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]] 18:15, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * In Soviet Russia, Internets need you! - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 18:19, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * But i hear in Soviet Russia the internets is not a truck, but rather a series of tubes. -- Salome  [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]] 18:32, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * that's in the us. - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 18:33, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh cool, I didnt even know Russia had trucks,let alone for their internets! yay! -- Salome  [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]] 18:37, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * maybe one day soviet russie will also begin to free the shit out of everyone. - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 18:54, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey thats me leaf ! lol o wait maybe its not &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 01:26, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I liked the pentagram better tbh. Made your sig unique. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  02:31, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I liked it too, but i fancied something slightly autumnal and seasonal. I'll probably change it back at some point in the future. :) -- Salome  [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]] 02:32, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Characters templates
Hello Salome. I have recently tried out the Character templates for my characters, but i cant get it working. Would you be able to help me? Its in my user box, and it isnt going well.

Thanks, --Burning Freebies 14:39, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yup sure matey. I'll have a wee look and see what i can do. -- Salome  [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]] 16:04, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay matey, I've worked out whats up. You are actually changing the template instead of just utilising it. You see the template should be just saved and left alone. Then you make your charecter pages utilising the variables in the template. If I'm not explaing it well,I apologise but trust me. -- Salome  [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]] 16:13, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay burning, I've done an exmaple of how to use the template at the bottom of your sandbox. So it might be easier for you to just copy and paste that for each charecter and change the variables for each. -- Salome  [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]] 16:25, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Ok, ill go check it out. Thanks for that, i appreciate it a lot.--Burning Freebies 18:23, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

I like it. Thanks very much, i would do something, but i dont know what i could do. --Burning Freebies 18:24, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Would you be able to help me set out the nav bar on my character page? As you can see it hasnt got well. Thanks again!--Burning Freebies 20:19, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

No need, i found out what i was missing. Thanks for letting me steal all your templates. You will be mentioned in my credits. --Burning Freebies 20:24, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * No worries mate. If you need any further help just shout me. -- Salome  [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]] 20:33, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * SALOME! - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 09:26, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I told you before Yo, I'm not holding that thing for you, until you wash it. ;) -- Salome  [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]] 13:48, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * which thing? - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 13:50, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * *Plays Coy* -- Salome  [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]] 13:56, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * that thing? - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 14:05, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Shhhhh....., we have to keep it quiet otherwise everyone will want to hold it. -- Salome  [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]] 14:12, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * i'm not even letting you hold it :P - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 14:25, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Spoil sport! -- Salome  [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]] 14:49, 8 September 2008 (UTC)