User talk:TahiriVeila

It can be cyber time nowz? <3 Frosty 14:46, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Every day frostels <3--TahiriVeila 14:46, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

This is like exactly what GWW needed. Exactly. Misery  14:47, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Time to kick ass and take namez? :O--TahiriVeila 14:48, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Also: msn is being a douche and i must go to class! Calculus is v easy so i shall nap for an hour and be back!--TahiriVeila 14:49, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Jakey Jake, look at my cute hamster! Athrun [[Image:User_Athrun_Feya_Hamster.png‎ ]] 01:42, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Very cute pupu--TahiriVeila 02:22, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

:OOOO

 * :OOOO Pika Fan 00:01, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * :OOOO - Wuhy  [[Image:User_Wuhy_sig.jpg]] 01:05, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * whoru?--TahiriVeila 03:23, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * whoru ? Lilondra  [[Image:User_Lilondra_Sig.jpg|21x21px]] 05:32, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Pvx pro pal. Look for me on obs mode--TahiriVeila 05:37, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Besides the fact that PvX is shittersfest your right about most of your votes.But TBH Do you really only enjoy hexgay or FOTM gimmicks ? Lilondra  [[Image:User_Lilondra_Sig.jpg|21x21px]] 06:08, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Hexgay is incredibly boring to play, it is fun to pewpewpew r/a in tombs on occasion though--TahiriVeila 06:33, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Foundry Rebalance

 * Have you tried using an imbagon? Foundry normal mode is really quite easy =\ And elite areas i nhard mode are supposed to be, well, hard. They're supposed to be the hardest areas in the game so if any old build could complete them then they wouldn't be very important would they? I don't understand why people have a problem with the idea that it SHOULD take a very specialized build to complete one of the hardest areas in the game =\--TahiriVeila 01:12, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * thats the thing tho. In theory, any build should be able to do it. the only difference is how good the players are. and in elite areas like DoA, the players in it should be better then the average player if they hope to beat it, or be with someone who knows what there are doing. but thats not what we got, what we got is skills that do better in these area then other skill, so you might be a warrior with a Hamstorm build (poor example, you laugh, but they're out there) doing the area, but you might not have the same success as you would with 600,famine,Ursan,SF. -- BobbyT [[Image:User_BobbyT BobbyT_Sig.jpg|19x19px|User Talk: BobbyT]] 02:47, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * How good the players are determines how good a build they create. | 72 User_Seventy_two_Truly_Random.jpg (UTC) 03:09, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Not always,Good players may choose to take a different and inferior approach just because its more fun and you happen to play the game because you want to have fun.Then again I should stop assuming I know what a good player is :3 Lilondra  [[Image:User_Lilondra_Sig.jpg|21x21px]] 04:44, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * How is playing with an inferior build fun? O.o --TahiriVeila 05:12, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * It's obviously so you can spend 3 hours doing an area that could take ~12 minutes. Life Guardian 05:14, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Inferior build is not a crappy build,Inferior build is balanced wich is inferior to SF or w/e gimmick is dominating that area Lilondra  [[Image:User_Lilondra_Sig.jpg|21x21px]] 05:32, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Still don't get how playing an inferior build is more fun--TahiriVeila 05:38, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Well I like playing with an "inferior build", you can get to know the people you are playing with and you might establish some new friendships when playing in a PuG, also when completing it with an "inferior build" I feel like I have accomplished something wich I don't have when playing with gimmicky builds. The only thing I wish is that DoA was more accessible for "inferior builds", but because of the gimmicks out there that do it faster nobody wants to play "inferior builds". --[[Image:User_Qaletaqa_sig_icon.jpg|talk]] Qaletaqa Hania  05:50, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree with Lilondra that some good players enjoy taking "inferior builds" to have more fun - for instance, when in a non-end game area I take a scythe build on my necro - and my time doing the area is not increased at all. Inferior doesn't mean crappy, it just means that it is "weaker" than another build. Which, in effect, all builds are inferior to something else. "Inferior builds" are fun because it gives you something new to work with, or makes things less of a breeze (which isn't to say takes longer - perhaps alone, with your regular build, you can do more than with henchmen and an "inferior build"). Perhaps some people take all henchmen instead of heroes and henchmen, or just take heroes and no henchmen in 8 man areas. There are ways to make the game more challenging without going into Hard Mode which to some will be fun. But just as some will not understand how that is fun, there are people who cannot understand why doing the same thing over and over and over and over is fun (i.e., farming). -- Konig/ talk 06:01, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * If you're just messing around in general pve that's fine because general pve is such a joke that any build can be highly effective. But I WAS talking about endgame content, and there I can't see any way it would be enjoyable to run something that was less than optimal. Also why are builds like cryway/manlyway/shitterflames in DoA considered gimmicks?--TahiriVeila 06:37, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I run Gale with my guild,Attila run's Dchop on his hammer/sword bar, Most of the time we run it because of those epic moments you get that you don't have when you just use pure damage.or tank and spank I'm referring to pvp now obv.But I'm just saying that tank and spank gets old quite fast (well to me anyway) and that tbh I had more fun doing a tiny part near the ice cave using low lvls and prekiting so our boonprot could keep us alive then going dual discord FoW with boro (although I still appreciate it he stayed :p) Lilondra  [[Image:User_Lilondra_Sig.jpg|21x21px]] 05:56, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Basically I'm saying I don't give 2 shits about "accomplishments" I just wanna do epic stuff Lilondra  [[Image:User_Lilondra_Sig.jpg|21x21px]] 05:59, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * That's great, more power to you. But you shouldn't expect to be able to do endgame content just shitting around without higlhy specific bars/tactics. If you can complete endgame content just shitting around with "epic sutff" then endgame content becomes pointless because it's not a challenge--TahiriVeila 06:40, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * It doesn't seem like that's the point that's being made. There's a distinct difference between having an entire team revolving around supporting Shadow Form because only five skills in the Underworld can get through it and bringing Aegis because the area's enemies can hit for 600. An area should not be made harder because a facerolling gimmick can do it too easily, but rather the facerolling gimmick should be nerfed because it can do it too easily. --Kyoshi (Talk) [[File:User Kyoshi sig.png]] 08:01, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * You can't do epic stuff in Guild Wars Original. Epic stuff begins at level 21! Now, an area being elite should not mean it can't be done in under 4 hours without one of the 2 builds that work, but that it requires a higher amount of strategy and synergy in builds. In other games, if you can't do it, you grind some levels, and try again. But you can't do that in GW. In GW, you can only wait until there is a gimmick build that works for your profession after a skill change. As a build-based game, no matter how good your build or team are, some things will never work against other builds, and in elite areas the number of working builds goes extreeemely down. Mith[[Image:User MithranArkanere Star.png]]Talk 12:03, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * So apparently nothing in UW uses shock, whirlwind, suffering, traps, signet of humility, zealots fire, lava font, or frozen burst?--TahiriVeila 15:10, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Prophecies (before Factions, and so on) used to require some knowledge of the missions, region, monsters or all of them. Otherwise you couldn't actually blow through it just like that. I spent quite a lot time finding those mission outposts in the desert. And the bonus objectives for certain Prophecies missions are still... not always so simple. These days of GW it's simple matter of your team's build and how you use it. It's usually very simple, and because of overpowered or otherwise gimmick methods you can blow through PvE easily. Ofc that was back then when I was a newb, and there were many things in GW unknown to myself as well as to the community. Mediggo 22:14, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * General pve, sure. Trying to blow through UW or DoA without any knowledge of the area will get you lolwrecked--TahiriVeila 23:08, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Jsc
It's true :> --Frosty  13:04, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * <3 Also it appears KJ's personal troll has taken a liking to me :<--TahiriVeila 20:18, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Meh, you can have him. I have 2. Karate [[File:User Karate Jesus KJ for sig.png]] Jesus  23:21, 9 December 2009  (UTC)

After reading what shard said
What would actually be the combined rank of all your guildies be? Must be over 9000! --Frosty  13:13, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * something like that--TahiriVeila 13:31, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Tell your guildies to let me join! I want to tag leech and possibly cape leech one day! Karate [[File:User Karate Jesus KJ for sig.png]] Jesus  22:19, 11 December 2009  (UTC)

VONG
/JOINER

-- Armond Warblade 18:20, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
 * only kinda sorta against my will--TahiriVeila 18:39, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Not like you were complaining during the dark nest crisis. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 19:12, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Dude I was fucking heartbroken.--TahiriVeila 19:44, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Like shit, you had a thing for Reynar, or is there some other reason you abandoned Sekot and traveled halfway across the galaxy to see him? -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 20:05, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
 * What? We only went after raynar because he posed a threat to both the chiss and the rest of the kilik's, and he was our responsibility as a member of the myrkr strike team. I was still totally messed up over anakin--TahiriVeila 20:22, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Pls explain, you lost me after anakin. NuVII  [[Image:User NuclearVII signature 3.jpg|19x19px]] 20:37, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
 * google wookiepedia, search my username.--TahiriVeila 20:43, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Warning, major spoilers. Also, messed up is a good word for it. How'd that sith apprenticeship go? -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 20:57, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
 * poorly, my master got fucked by his sis.--TahiriVeila 21:09, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Aww, that sucks. No galactic domination for you? -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 22:36, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Nope, did a little bounty hunting for a while but I think I'll probably end up a good guy again soon, even if i'm still a heartbroken wretch :(--TahiriVeila 22:47, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

You mean
Anet actually said something in the first place? Pika Fan 17:25, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
 * point--TahiriVeila 17:32, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Searing Flames
Wouldn't you agree that if you need to take 5 copies of a skill to make it "good", then it's not really that great - just broken? Vili &#x70B9;
 * No--TahiriVeila 14:42, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Hi
This wiki has a rule against personal attacks, please mind it. Oh, and it's "retarded", not retarted. -- FreedomBound  14:48, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * That is going to be my next catchphrase... err....catchword?  Koda  [[Image:User_Koda_Kumi_UT.jpeg‎|19px]]  Kumi  14:54, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * It wasn't a personal attack insomuch as a statement of fact. I know all about your NPA rule and how anal retentive you are about enforcing it because apparently criticism is a bad thing. There's a difference between pointing out someone's idiocy and a personal attack pal.--TahiriVeila 15:42, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * If you know all about it, then you don't need a warning not to do it. As for arguing with someone, you can do that without the name-calling. It doesn't help any points you have. Try not to get so worked up when you return. Thanks. &mdash; Gares 16:19, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * If you know all about it, then you don't need a warning not to do it. As for arguing with someone, you can do that without the name-calling. It doesn't help any points you have. Try not to get so worked up when you return. Thanks. &mdash; Gares 16:19, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

From GWW:ANB

 * I still don't understand why these discussions are posing a problem, as they're only taking place on her talk page and aren't spilling over onto the mainspace. There's no problem with the wiki as a whole and if you'll actually read Regina's post she appears to only have a problem with the discussions going on on her talk page if the administration believes they're compromising the wiki as a whole. She doesn't appear to have any personal problems with the way her talk page currently works. And I'd like to politely suggest that it's her talk page. Let Regina deal with problems is shedeams that they're problems. Don't start pointless drama about a function of the wiki that doesn't appear to be detrimental to the wiki and that the person who it's most likely to affect doesn't mind.--TahiriVeila 15:53, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I think the problem and how it affects the wiki has already been detailed above. — pling User Pling sig.png 15:58, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Allow me to restate myself: Regina's page is for contacting Regina. Her talk page is NOT for discussing the game. Forums are for discussing the game. Wiki user talk pages are for contacting users. GWW is not a forum. This is about people using Regina's talk page as a forum (heck, the entire wiki for that matter), which it is not, and how to prevent it. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  16:02, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes but this seems to ignore the fact that in her capacity as a Community Relations specialist any attempt to contact Regina must inherently involve a discussion of game mechanics. I don't understand why it is a problem that those attempts to contact Regina evolve into a discussion of game mechanics as they communicate further details on gameplay and the attitudes of the community to Regina and the Arenanet team as a whole. You seem to be arguing that conversations can't occur on Regina's page because this is a wiki, in essence saying that this "rule" must be followed for the simple sake that it is a "rule." I'm just not seeing any logical argument being presented as to why discussions shouldn't occur on Regina's talk page, I just see people screaming GWW IS NOT A FORUM over and over.--TahiriVeila 16:07, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Forums are for discussing the game. The Wiki is for documenting the game. Wiki user talk pages exist for the express purpose of contacting users to resolve wiki-related conflicts and the like. GWW is an encyclopedia for God's sake, not a fansite. If you want to discuss the game, there are plenty of fansites out there for you to do it at. Is that logical enough for you? &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  16:13, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * No, because you completely ignored all of the points I made and and provided no actual reason as to why a talk page should not be used to discuss game mechanics other than "gww is not a forum" which isn't a logical argument. While it's true that a wiki's mainspace should act as an encyclopedia, the userspace(and the talk pages associated with the userspace) exist to be used as the user's discretion. That's why a userspace exists so that discussions can occur outside of the mainspace. Does no one one GWW undertsand how a wiki is supposed to work?--TahiriVeila 16:18, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh and if I may get a wee bit sarcastic, shouldn't this entire page be deleted ASAP as it constitutes a discussion on a talk page and talk pages aren't for discussions!--TahiriVeila 16:19, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * But is there a reason to discuss on Regina's page as opposed to somewhere else? Wouldn't it be better to have a discussion elsewhere and then post a summary question on her page? The other issue is whether the discussion is actually worthwhile, since often it's just whining and complaining, and one person can "discuss" that well enough. --JonTheMon 16:21, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * What other avenues exist for discussion of game mechanics exist on an Arenanet sanctioned site that has direct involvement by Arenanet staff? It makes no sense to disallow discussion of game mechanics on Regina's page, especially since she doesn't appear to mind said discussions. In particular I'd like to refer you to GWW's policy on userspace ownership which clearly states "The Guild Wars Wiki allows users to manage their own user space as they see fit within the rules and guidelines laid out above." This whole discussion is pointless as GWW's own policy state's that the management of userspace's should be left up to the user in question. Let Regina manage her talk page in whatever method she deems is appropriate and forget all this pointless drama.--TahiriVeila 16:25, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

(Reset indent) You are not denied access to discussion on other places on the wiki, like your own talk page, conveniently provided by ANet. And you didn't read to the part about user talk pages, which while part of a user's space, is treated differently. --JonTheMon 16:28, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * If you  had read the pertaining portion of the page concerning talk pages, you'd see that the policy makes no note on what content should or should not appear on talk pages. In an unrelated point, why should discussion be permissible on any talk page except those of Arenanet staff? That really doesn't make much sense, especially considering that the staff member in question does not appear to mind said discussions. The only people who seem to mind are overzealous, anal-retentive wiki-nazis who like to ignore policy in order to meet their own ends and stir up drama!--TahiriVeila 16:33, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * In a side-note that last comment was directed at Eras, not you Jon. I hope it was sufficiently passive-aggressive for GWW ^.^ --TahiriVeila 16:35, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Let me break-down all the namespaces for you:
 * Main: Documenting the game (as we all know)
 * User: Portal to users (see * talk)
 * GWW: About the wiki it's self and its policies
 * File: Self-explanatory
 * MediaWiki: Wiki software in general
 * Templates: Templates for use in the namespace
 * Help: Self-explanatory
 * Category: We sort our pages
 * Guild: Documenting the game's guilds
 * Game-Link: Directs in-game /help function searches
 * ArenaNet: Document the company making the game, report bugs Locked
 * Feedback: Document suggestions
 * * Talk: Resolve and sort out wiki-related issues between users
 * This conversation exists to resolve a VERY wiki-related issue between users, well, the one it was a part of before moved this.
 * Now, anywhere in there do you see, "We're a fansite, talk about the game here!"? &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  16:37, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Another reason the wiki should not be used as a forum or a vehicle for discussion: the wiki was not made to handle them. It took me 5 tried before I could get an edit through without conflict in the ANB before I could move this discussion. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  16:40, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't really think this section should've been moved. It's still part of the original discussion, even if it's going in circles. -- pling User Pling sig.png 16:41, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * You can remove the ArenaNet namespace from your list as that area has been locked. TahiriVeila, the Feedback namespace is for discussions about the game. If it's a bug, it goes on bug reporting pages, if it's a suggestion for changes, it goes on a suggestion page you create. If it's a general bitch about a general topic, it goes on a fansite forum. The ArenaNet community staff are active participants on the Guru forums, and I know several developers follow threads and discussions there. You can see them logged in there almost daily. There is nothing stopping you and all the rest of the wiki community from creating a feedback space, and having your discussions there. If you wish the staff to weigh in on a discussion, then provide them a link to it on their talk page. -- Wyn [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon2.png|19px ]]  talk  16:43, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Shall I move it back then? I moved it because I felt "GWW is not a forum" differed from "Should we put restrictions on Regina's page?" enough to warrant being placed else-where, where the two would not interfere with each other. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  16:45, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * It's all rather out of context here, and it provided another viewpoint to the discussion - it's mostly about Regina's talk, but it's also about the bigger picture, of which Regina's talk is a part. If one doesn't think there's a problem with using talk pages that way, it follows that one disagrees with implementing a system to counteract the non-existent problem. -- pling User Pling sig.png 17:23, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I have to agree with Pling. This conversation seems to add at least some merit to the other conversation. To throw in my 2 cents (not that they're worth it, but meh), I don't understand why we'd want to limit the wiki to such rigid definitions of each "space". Trust that I know the purpose behind limiting certain spaces to certain needs/causes; however, user talk pages are still just that....user talk pages. They will always, in one way or another, reflect the users and because of that they often become similar to forums. I, personally, see nothing wrong with that. Especially not on Anet staff's pages (as long as the discussion is civil or in some way relating to the topic). A good example is John Hargrove's talk page. The other day he confirmed that he and Linsey were engaged and we had a hilarious little conversation about it. His talk page was used as a forum, but no one seemed to mind.
 * I know that Regina's page often gets pretty intense, especially now that Linsey's is locked again, but I really don't know what else she should expect. She knows how the players feel (from forums, here, and in-game) and many of them are not happy. I think players should be allowed to express how they feel about the community relations of GW with the community relations manager. Now maybe that's nuts, but it's just a suggestion. Karate [[File:User Karate Jesus KJ for sig.png]] Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">17:33, 15 January 2010  (UTC)
 * No, John's page is not used like a forum. Your little announcement of their engagement, (which by the way boggles me, since posting something you were not sure they wanted public as per the topic, on the wiki seems like a total violation of their privacy) was followed by active participation from John. The discussions on Regina's page are 90% the community discussing, with Regina providing a single reply, often only to the OP, and then more discussion from the community about her answer until it gets archived. Your posting of Regina's post from the guru forum was only inviting more forum discussion on the wiki, while you could have and should have simply posted your comments to her on Guru, and directed others, via a link on your page, or word of mouth in game, etc, to do the same. The fact that she is posting stuff on Guru should prove that the wiki is not the only place they use/monitor for communication. -- Wyn [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon2.png|19px ]] talk  17:42, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * First, Linsey made her FB public on purpose (after I'd talked to her about it, I realized that). She knew that people would see that. It was already "public" before I said anything.
 * Second, Regina posts on GWGuru around once every 2-4 weeks. So, I think the bigger problem isn't that I brought a forum to GWW, but that communication isn't being done anywhere and I (along with other users) feel like we're the ones who have to 'spread the word' about issues. If CR were being done, I would have never posted that. <font color="Black" face="cambria">Karate [[File:User Karate Jesus KJ for sig.png]] <font color="Black" face="cambria">Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">17:45, 15 January 2010  (UTC)
 * Not to be a troll or anything...but KJ has a point. Many in the community do not feel that Anet is listening to them and they don't know where to go to make those feelings heard. Anet needs to listen to their customers--or at least pretend to. Even the trolls and the customers with not so nice things to say. Customers get upset...it happens. What do you do? Show agression(which, Regina has from time to time)? No. You act like you care, even when you don't. You listen, you let them gripe, get it all out, then answer the question in a timely manner (which Anet does not do) to the best of your ability. Sometimes, all an upset customer wants to do is bitch, and often times, if you let them, you don't have to clean their carpet or give them a rent concession! Now, of course, you never have to take abuse or name calling, that is always unacceptable, but never undermine a customer's right to be unhappy with service.
 * Touching base again with my point on listening to customers, the main issue is Anet delivers BAD CUSTOMER SERVICE. Every employee at Anet (and any customer service related job or sales job) needs to read these suggested resources: a book called "THE NORDSTROM WAY" and forever burn into their minds the phrase "UNDER PROMISE AND OVER DELIVER". People like KJ are upset because they were promised a certain schedule with balances and updates. I understand that Anet does not cash flow--its obvious they make little to no money and this strains the current live staff--I understand they have struggles with deadlines, but don't make a promise you can't keep. If the team agrees on Bi-monthly updates, thats great, but just say "every month or two months" then shock and surpise the community with "over delivery". Its not much, but it looks like it, and saves your ass when you make mistakes. Also, I suggest they look into training program similar to the one my company uses called "Grace Hill", its for the housing industry, but they feature an amazing training program about "CONFLICT MANAGEMENT/RESOLUTION" and "CUSTOMER SERVICE".
 * If Anet and NCSoft want GW2 to work and not have their company investors get hit by a financial loss because the game may fail due to bad word of mouth about the company--it can be easily prevented by leaving their current customer base with a good taste in the mouth. The Test Krewe is a start...but still...I think too little is too late.-- *Yasmin Parvaneh*  [[Image:User_yasmin_parvaneh_sig.png]] 18:25, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * That still doesn't really pertain to the issue at hand. If you have a problem with how ArenaNet is handling their community relations, send an email, post on a forum, etc. Do not turn Regina's or other staff pages here on the wiki into your forum (which is what they have become, and what the discussion on the noticeboard talk page is trying to correct). This is not about how they are doing their jobs or whether we feel they are or not, but how disruptive it is to the wiki to carry on forum type discussions. -- Wyn [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon2.png|19px ]] talk  22:17, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Just because you and these other 'administrators' keep referring to talking on a talk page as 'using them like a forum', it doesn't make it true. And 'forum type discussions' is so ambiguous. Forums take on various roles and many subjects. I've been in forums that are 10x more informative than this wiki could ever hope to be. Your argument is ridiculous. -- <font color="#342EFF">Dee <font color="#00008B">Strongfist  22:19, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Because sending emails and posting on forums has worked in the past? No. The one way we've been able to communicate with the Community Relations manager is through her feedback talk. That's mostly it. And the Test Krewe hasn't given me a lot of confidence lately, considering how many TK members are complaining about the lack of organization, leaking information, and the overall inexperience of the group (as far as testing goes). <font color="Black" face="cambria">Karate [[File:User Karate Jesus KJ for sig.png]] <font color="Black" face="cambria">Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">22:21, 15 January 2010  (UTC)
 * @Big, when most of the community (including regina!) sees it as a forum, it's safe to assume it's being treated like a forum- going all "administrator-oppression!"-way doesn't work.
 * @KJ, that is massively flawed because the wiki hasn't worked well either. – Emmett  22:25, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Pretty much the whole thing is massively flawed, which was my point. Thank you for agreeing :D <font color="Black" face="cambria">Karate [[File:User Karate Jesus KJ for sig.png]] <font color="Black" face="cambria">Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">22:27, 15 January 2010  (UTC)
 * Emmett, your logic there is really flawed. How does the majority of the GWW community see this site as a forum? I've been using GWW for 3 years, and I just now decided to start giving my opinion on policies and contributing. As I said on the Admin Noticeboard talk, no one on this wiki is innocent of using this site for off-subject discussion. If you want to side with the rest of the admins, at least try to make a little sense. -- <font color="#342EFF">Dee <font color="#00008B">Strongfist  22:31, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Documenting the game doesn't end at the game Wyn--the game's management and how it's ran also factor into said documentation.-- *Yasmin Parvaneh* [[Image:User_yasmin_parvaneh_sig.png]] 22:28, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I hope all of you realize that the admins are all on board for this, regardless of what we say. This is going to happen, and I have a feeling that communication is going to suffer even more than it has. Anything we say here can easily be disregarded. <font color="Black" face="cambria">Karate [[File:User Karate Jesus KJ for sig.png]] <font color="Black" face="cambria">Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">22:33, 15 January 2010  (UTC)
 * While I wholeheartedly agree that the wiki talk pages are seriously abused by many players, most especially the staff pages, I have already stated that I am against implementing the same stringent stance that was taken on Izzy's page, and will not be active in enforcing whatever is put in place. Simply because I don't think it's worth the massive effort and time commitment, or the headaches and aggravation from the abusers that goes along with such an effort in comparison to the rewards. I would much rather see this type of "wiki is not a forum" stance taken on pages like Talk:Shadow Form and all the game update talk pages, giving us more authority to simply remove all the "nerf sf" topics that appear. -- Wyn [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon2.png|19px ]] talk  22:43, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm torn between saying "nice united front thar wyn" and "why do we still follow the ancient idea that every talk page addition is sacred?". -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 19:34, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

About your feedback
Are you sure you have the current version of Healing Seed correct? -- <font color="Black">Tha Reckoning  20:08, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Well I was till you posted. Let me look--TahiriVeila 20:12, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Forgot to c/p the right description in. Thanks. Feel free to comment as well--TahiriVeila 20:13, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
 * As far as my opinion goes, I think they're decent ideas that Anet could somewhat implement. I like that some of them make you think before using, which would be a refreshing change instead of mindlessly redbarring in arenas, which is what most people do. I'd rather have damage balanced, but meh, pipe dreams. -- <font color="Black">Tha Reckoning [[Image:User Tha Reckoning Sig2.jpg|19x19px]] 20:20, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
 * ^ I'm hoping I'll be able to work through all of the skill lines (or at least the important ones, fire, dom, curse, axe, hammer, channeling) in the next few weeks. According to Regina, Robert checks the skill suggestions pages in the feedback namespace daily--TahiriVeila 20:22, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
 * When you get that done you should drop the Anet balancers a line, they've been having trouble doing that for years, you should show them how easy it is to do over a few short weeks. -- <font color="Black">Tha Reckoning [[Image:User Tha Reckoning Sig2.jpg|19x19px]] 20:28, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Jake
You are a badddddddd playerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Get a bigger ego plz. --76.230.215.92 20:02, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I happen to disagree with you as do many others! Sorry mr. anon!--TahiriVeila 20:04, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
 * you think you're so good because you're in [vR]. shitter --76.230.215.92 20:06, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Please refer to the top of the page mr. anon! --TahiriVeila 20:06, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
 * you're quitting coz u suq at gild worssss. lets play the guessing game. who am i? --68.248.238.154 01:09, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Based on your post on the AA page I'm guessing saint. Only you would dicksuck crow that much without actually being good enough to play for those polish tards.--TahiriVeila 03:25, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * In addition the fact that you're posting from a proxied IP further suggests this, and the fact that you're calling me by my name suggests you're a pvx nerd.--TahiriVeila 03:31, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * not saint, try again. this is fun --69.210.141.31 00:04, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * See, if you are saint, you'd obviously lie. And I have no real reason to believe you. ^.^ --TahiriVeila 00:05, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * guess we'll never find out then ^_^ i thought i could have a little guessing fun at least :( --69.210.141.31 00:21, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry Mr. Anon :( If it's any consolation, KJ think's you're Gladiator Motoko as he has a GWW acc and is known to proxy. But I've only talked to Motoko maybe once or twice, and I can't see how he'd be able to get from any of my IGNs to my GWW acc, why he'd be interested in making fun of me, or how he'd know my name is jake. All of those things suggest someone from pvx, and the only person from pvx who really hates me is saint. :( --TahiriVeila 00:23, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * lol badiator motoko. not me, try again kind sir. --69.210.141.31 00:32, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah I didn't think it was motoko either. Let's start narrowing things down, are you a tombser, a gvger, or a pvxfag?--TahiriVeila 02:53, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The fuck is this shit? Motoko is my bank alt. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 03:51, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * wat.--TahiriVeila 04:25, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * im a gvg'r and i guess a slight pvxfag. although im not gay on there like most of the faggots. --76.229.218.15 23:25, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * American or euro?--TahiriVeila 01:54, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
 * -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 02:31, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Eww warcraft. Stop suq--TahiriVeila 02:39, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
 * american --76.229.218.15 03:57, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
 * lemstar?--TahiriVeila 13:32, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
 * didnt even know lemster was american. keep going. --76.199.149.232 17:30, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
 * He's hawiian. I don't think you're zee, and four wouldn't pvx/gww. You're not broken are you?--TahiriVeila 20:35, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Arya Stark
A fan of "A song of Fire and Ice" I see. - Reanimated X 15:31, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
 * ofc--TahiriVeila 16:03, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

fyi
If you werent such a damn troll and didnt put so much pointless meme in every fucking post you put in the wiki i might have the patience to respond to you. But since every single thing you ever say at any time at all ever to anyone happens to be "lol ur baed", no. i dont feel the need to converse with you. kthxbai. --Briar 23:31, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

fyi
If you werent such a damn troll and didnt put so much pointless meme in every fucking post you put in the wiki i might have the patience to respond to you. But since every single thing you ever say at any time at all ever to anyone happens to be "lol ur baed", no. i dont feel the need to converse with you. kthxbai. --Briar 23:34, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Would you please abandon your obviously teenage conception that you're completely infallible and consider for just a second that you might be incorrect? Great job posting the same message twice btw.--TahiriVeila 23:35, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * P.S. do you even know what meme means?--TahiriVeila 23:35, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Briar
Just stay off his user talk and stop responding to him for a day. --JonTheMon 00:24, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Bawwww why ruin the fun! --<font color="Black">Frosty  [[Image:User Frosty Frostcharge sig.jpg|19px]] 00:25, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * He's the next Igor. But, Igor kinda knew he was stupid, Briar has no idea. Even when you sit down and refute his illogical and fallacious reasoning, all he does is "Bawwwwww you can't disregard my points" anyway. Talking reason to Briar is similar to inhaling hydrogen chloride gases, or lighting yourself on fire. -- <font color="Black">Tha Reckoning [[Image:User Tha Reckoning Sig2.jpg|19x19px]] 00:30, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * It's more like lighting a random person on fire, it makes no sense and will end in tragidy but it's strangely satisfying --<font color="Black">Frosty  [[Image:User Frosty Frostcharge sig.jpg|19px]] 00:35, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * [[Image:User_Yasmin_Parvaneh_successful_troll.jpg|150px]]-- *Yasmin Parvaneh* [[Image:User_yasmin_parvaneh_sig.png]] 00:48, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Wat, there was no trolling going on. I was--unsuccessfully--trying to help a misguided youth see the error in his ways and become a reasonable, useful member of society.--TahiriVeila 02:47, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * ^I lol'd 98.248.90.248 03:59, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
 * ^me2--71.193.48.146 09:05, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Monster skill template
The template will only cause the first instance in an article to link to monster skill because additional links would be redundant. So it's not a bug, just some clever coding. elix Omni 04:57, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, I was unaware. Thanks.--TahiriVeila 04:58, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Hi
Personally, my favorite song from them is The Lemon Song, but since I don't have Physical Graffiti, it may actually be Kashmir. All right, gotta skip Dodge, TTYL -- <font color="#dce2e8">R <font color="#cfdae5">I <font color="#b8c2cc">D <font color="#a1b1bf">DLE 06:01, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Uh, no. whoru? why are you asking me this?--TahiriVeila 06:03, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I said TTYL, which means I won't actually TTY until L. --User Ezekial Riddle silverbluesig.png <font color="#dce2e8">R <font color="#cfdae5">I <font color="#b8c2cc">D <font color="#a1b1bf">DLE 06:06, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
 * uh. k.--TahiriVeila 06:07, 31 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Classic rock so boring. -- -Chaos- (moo) -- 18:50, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Unless you like it.  Koda  [[Image:User_Koda_Kumi_UT.jpeg‎|19px]]  Kumi  18:52, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Still boring. Needs moar punk rawk.--TahiriVeila 19:04, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Disfear! Kur  tan   <font color="Deeppink">19:32, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

green day beat eric clapton for best rock album
Might need to go vomit.--TahiriVeila 03:09, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Green Day is like the modern day Leonard Cohen: everyone misunderstands them as being misunderstood.  Koda  [[Image:User_Koda_Kumi_UT.jpeg‎|19px]]  Kumi  10:51, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
 * They just fucking suck.--TahiriVeila 13:38, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Wait, was the grammies or one of those "star studded" events? If so, figures. They only acknowledge popular shit. 71.161.202.16 14:45, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Grammies. I didn't even know that bands who wear guyliner qualify as rock :< --TahiriVeila 15:54, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Somewhere in Hell Sid Vicious is in a corner not sure if he should laugh or cry.-- *Yasmin Parvaneh* [[Image:User_yasmin_parvaneh_sig.png]] 17:16, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Hey
How did you get into TOR beta testing? I think it looks very promising <3. I also liked KOTOR 1 and 2 alot. Too bad they didnt finish 2 properly. Reaper of Scythes ** 21:12, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Beta testing hasn't started yet. You vcan apply to be a beta tester on their site and they sent out emails about a month or two ago telling the people who had been selected that they'd been preliminarily selected as beta testers and would be notified when the testing process begins--TahiriVeila 21:44, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok thanks Reaper of Scythes ** User Reaper of ScythesJuggernaut1.png 16:51, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

any more skill ideas?
I like reading suggestions, yours seemed realistic too. Previously Unsigned 05:50, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * It's called a sense of game balance ;o I also don't think Jake is the kinda guy who writes a long page which will never change anything. -- -Chaos- (moo) -- 10:56, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Did I ask you? No. PS, none were long. Previously Unsigned 20:16, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Meh I might do more. Cba lately, classes are giving me too much work to do--TahiriVeila 16:19, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Please
Stop being a sexist. Noone thinks it's funny nor entertaining. Also, i hate agreeing with Briar. If you want to start shit with Wyn, talk about her cats or something. Don't degrade women in general please. -- adrin  07:29, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Degrading women in general isn't the same as degrading gamer girls. It's also quite logically derived from the fact that most nerds look terrible. I for one am very hawt, though! -- -Chaos- (moo) -- 07:58, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Honestly I don't feel like I did anything wrong =\ Grinch made a comment about tits or gtfo on somebody's page, so i made a joke on grinch's page saying that gamer girls typically aren't the ones you wanna see naked. Wyn came onto his page all hot and bothered, and I was just stating that in my experience girls who play mmos are usually incredibly self-involved and usually aren't very attractive. That's not sexism, that's relating my experiences. Learn the difference--TahiriVeila 15:35, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Assuming that men who believe that most gamer-chicks are ugly are sexist is actually quite incredibly sexist itself. I couldn't blame any girl who thought that most gamer-guys were ugly. It's pretty true, at least for hardcore gamers. And I say that about both sides. ···  Danny  Pew   Pew 
 * This is extremely far from sexism. I don't generally expect to find prince charming on the other side of the screen and I don't see why people are getting offended on behalf of women who seemingly appear to believe they're gods gift to male gamers. <font color="Silver">Athrun [[Image:User_Athrun_Feya_Hamster.png‎ ]] 23:50, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, Lau is v cute! ;o And I am naturally too, for I am a gay poro. -- -Chaos- (moo) -- 08:44, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Also: I've been dating my best friend for two years and screwing my twin sis for even longer than that. I don't think I could get away with being unjustly sexist even if I wanted to :< --TahiriVeila 16:29, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
 * "Pull out, Jake, now!" "Just.. ah... whhhile.. longer.." ... ... ... "Oh my god, what have we done?". -- -Chaos- (moo) -- 08:43, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
 * You guys have issues. - Auron 09:12, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
 * If you think my comment on Grinch's page was all "hot and bothered" you have more issues than just your twisted sexual preferences.... -- Wyn [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon2.png|19px ]] talk  09:41, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Referring to . -- -Chaos- (moo) -- 11:36, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Jake kind of has a point. Normal girls see reactions like these and stay far away from MMO's, leaving only the ugly, self-absorbed kind to start flamewars with.  Koda  [[Image:User_Koda_Kumi_UT.jpeg‎|19px]]  Kumi  12:02, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
 * What we really need in this discussion is some more white knights. They are so valiant. <font color="#A55858">Misery  12:24, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
 * lady ip slays sexists O: 127.0.0.1 12:27, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
 * ? [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  23:21, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Chaos, it probably would have been better to link to this too. Far more detail involved(though less factually based, my sister an i are usually far more affectionate and gentle when making love)--TahiriVeila 01:47, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Wow, hell, why have I never seen that? Kind of gross because it contains women, but also very kinky ^___^ -- -Chaos?- (moo!) -- 11:28, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah mis and i had a very epic msn convo a few weeks back, he was bored at work, and that was the product of his boredom! I got a little nauseous towards the end, but it was still v good!--TahiriVeila 13:35, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * :\ [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  13:38, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Mis just has a way with words, I know--TahiriVeila 13:39, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I was unaware you were going to use that in such a way Jake. You didn't even fix my screwed up tenses. I think the wiki should be very glad that I limit my editing sometimes. <font color="#A55858">Misery  14:01, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I felt it best to post it in its original form. More authentic--TahiriVeila 18:13, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I would say you did the wrong choice of style there. Have someone write it clean, or then I could do it myself if I remember. -- -Chaos?- (moo!) -- 18:18, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Go for it if you like. It's still incredibly epic as is.--TahiriVeila 18:18, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Done. ^________^ -- -Chaos?- (moo!) -- 00:08, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Link? Come on msn and show me.--TahiriVeila 02:52, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Watchlist? D: -- -Chaos?- (moo!) -- 07:09, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

User:Briar
You need to stop baiting him. Since he's made it obviously clear that he doesn't want to speak to you or be spoken to by you, and because you're a troll, I'm going to see any direct or indirect comment you make regarding or towards him as bait, or intended to make him rage and violate policy, or just as outright trolling. That may lead to blocks if necessary. I think this is the easiest way to separate the both of you, so there it is. -- pling 19:00, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * So, I'm not allowed to request that he stop referring to me by an acronym that I don't care for, c?--TahiriVeila 19:01, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * That's right. Same as Reggie. [[Image:User_Felix_Omni_Signature.png]]elix Omni 20:32, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I made a pretty concerted effort to get people to stop calling her Reggie and to have Reggie stop redirecting to Regina's page once she made it clear she doesn't like the nickname...--TahiriVeila 20:39, 24 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes she doesn't like the nickname and yes she has gotten people to stop calling her that, but she didn't RAAAAAGE to make that happen. --JonTheMon 20:55, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Didn't realize my actions constituted raging. I thought I've been polite asking people to cut it out.--TahiriVeila 20:56, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * TV.....I mean TahiriVeila isnt/didnt rage. It is Briar raging and being childish. [[Image:User DrogoBoffin sig icon.png]] Drogo Boffin 20:58, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * He really does seem to be working himself up this time though, doesn't he?--TahiriVeila 21:00, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * What's in a name? A troll by any other name would smell as foul. [[Image:User_Felix_Omni_Signature.png]]elix Omni 00:23, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * <3 you too--TahiriVeila 00:29, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

"Jake". Wow. When I started typing that, I was so sure that my mental capabilites wouldn't suffice for finishing the word, let alone repeat this process on instinct. -- -Chaos?- (moo!) -- 00:31, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * It's such a difficult task. I can't believe you managed it. Your IQ and hand-eye coordination must be off the charts--TahiriVeila 00:46, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, the gods were with me, and I had a ton of luck. I can't see why karma would favor me, though. Perhaps karma is just more objective than the rest of this site! -- -Chaos?- (moo!) -- 00:54, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

LolJake
GL with that scythes vs hammers thing. For various reasons people on this wiki have a massive hard on for calling scythes imbaamazingbeyondalldoubtneedsnerfrightaway despite the fact you won't see a single scythe on obs. <font color="#A55858">Misery  22:44, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Wat. Scythes got nerfed back to oblivion b/c trees were so OP in VoD. They're pretty suq now =\ --TahiriVeila 22:51, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * OH NOES! WOUNDING STRIKE! It all comes from comments Shard made. For similar reasons people will tell you WoD is ZOMGOVERPOWEREDBIGGESTPROBLEMINTHEGAMETODAY. <font color="#A55858">Misery  22:53, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * WoD was only ever good in TA and it got fucknerfed...and who cares about wounding strike unless you've got huge damage in the midline. Dervs suck at pumping dps b/c they're attack rate is shite.--TahiriVeila 22:55, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Why are you trying to use logic? I already know this and no one else will listen to it. <font color="#A55858">Misery  23:02, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * People on this wiki make my head hurt sometimes--TahiriVeila 23:03, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Just remain subtle, make strong texts, and avoid getting the main blame for drama. -- -Chaos?- (moo!) -- 23:37, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * csb  <font color="black" face="courier new">dark  <font color="gray" face="courier new">chaos   01:04, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * c, csb. moo. -- -Chaos?- (moo!) -- 01:14, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * i think you mean chsb, cuz csg--TahiriVeila 01:40, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * civg, Chaos doesn't get a letter name. --<font color="Black">Frosty  [[Image:User Frosty Frostcharge sig.jpg|19px]] 01:42, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Fsm, bmntch--TahiriVeila 01:43, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * fsn :< -- -Chaos?- (moo!) -- 01:56, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * cinm, ciMb  <font color="black" face="courier new">dark  <font color="gray" face="courier new">chaos   02:08, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Is Dark Chaos an african version of Chaos Messenger? --<font color="Black">Frosty  [[Image:User Frosty Frostcharge sig.jpg|19px]] 02:15, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * d jss, i mean, c!--TahiriVeila 02:15, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * moo! jsc! --<font color="Black">Frosty  [[Image:User Frosty Frostcharge sig.jpg|19px]] 02:17, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * twss! <3 fsg--TahiriVeila 02:18, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * c po! --<font color="Black">Frosty  [[Image:User Frosty Frostcharge sig.jpg|19px]] 02:19, 25 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Wth, but I laughed long ^__________^ -- -Chaos?- (moo!) -- 02:26, 25 February 2010 (UTC)


 * I said, chaos is not manly, chaos is moo, bawww  <font color="black" face="courier new">dark  <font color="gray" face="courier new">chaos   02:23, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * dclb--TahiriVeila 02:25, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Moo is positive. Moo is always positive. Moo is always possible. -- -Chaos?- (moo!) -- 02:26, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * moo --<font color="Black">Frosty  [[Image:User Frosty Frostcharge sig.jpg|19px]] 02:30, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

jsb, vs. c?--TahiriVeila 02:29, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * d, bian, dchb  <font color="black" face="courier new">dark  <font color="gray" face="courier new">chaos   02:31, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * You're terrible at this give up, pdo. --<font color="Black">Frosty  [[Image:User Frosty Frostcharge sig.jpg|19px]] 02:32, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * we'll explain it to you better later, you have to follow rules, po--TahiriVeila 02:33, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * K, you know i've been doing this for like 15 mins tho... I thought I was pretty gud, cd  <font color="black" face="courier new">dark  <font color="gray" face="courier new">chaos  <
 * d, lp. --<font color="Black">Frosty  [[Image:User Frosty Frostcharge sig.jpg|19px]] 02:36, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * d, stop suq--TahiriVeila 02:37, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * dcs :(  <font color="black" face="courier new">dark  <font color="gray" face="courier new">chaos   02:39, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

GWWT
You should check that out. It's much faster than copying + pasting. - Mini Me   talk  22:16, 25 February 2010

"needlessly kills BB sins"
You're supposed to be half decent at the game, bro. -- Armond Warblade 06:46, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
 * BB sins are ridiculously easy to counter (wots aura/guardian/dshot), are increibly fragile so their only use was in HA (where they were admittedly weak anyway) and were the only sin bars in the history of the game which took at least a small amount of skill to play. Wasn't any reason to kill it.--TahiriVeila 12:14, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
 * ...Seriously? Skill? -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 23:14, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
 * More skill than 1234567 --<font color="Black">Frosty  [[Image:User Frosty Frostcharge sig.jpg|19px]] 23:17, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Bind cancel to 2, weapon swap to 3. NOW IT'S HARD! <font color="#A55858">Misery  23:18, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
 * No sin bar took skill, but BB required a tiny bit more than a 123456 sin--TahiriVeila 02:15, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it was 1mouse4mouse523456. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 05:58, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
 * What the fuck was your bar order?
 * For me, the chain was:
 * sidestep f1 6 5 sidestep f2 1234 sidestep f1 5 sidestep f2.
 * I just put BB on my Shock button and pretend I'm running devsword. =3 [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  06:11, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
 * What. I just put my cancel button on 9, and in case I'd miss it, also on 0 and +. + was redundant, though. :> -- -Chaos?- (moo!) -- 19:46, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
 * What's - then? -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 20:44, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Looks like a hyphen. [[Image:User_Felix_Omni_Signature.png]]elix Omni 20:50, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
 * http://www.bash.org/?904758 - Auron 20:53, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh wow, true story? Never know. -- -Chaos?- (moo!) -- 21:01, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I read shit like that and I just go "...americans". Thanks! NuVII  [[Image:User NuclearVII signature 3.jpg|19x19px]] 22:05, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I forgot to type that out. I also felt that it's not very appropriate seeing how she's a foreigner. -- -Chaos?- (moo!) -- 22:08, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
 * What makes you say that? She does go to school in LA, so... Thanks! NuVII  [[Image:User NuclearVII signature 3.jpg|19x19px]] 10:42, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Because of the name and the terrible English of the mother. -- -Chaos?- (moo!) -- 10:51, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Americans all have good English? Americans all have the same name? Thanks! NuVII  [[Image:User NuclearVII signature 3.jpg|19x19px]] 11:08, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * That is a rather terrible argument. -- -Chaos?- (moo!) -- 11:20, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * This is a rather terrible section, but whatever. Thanks! NuVII  [[Image:User NuclearVII signature 3.jpg|19x19px]] 11:43, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

auron read my talk page wat--TahiriVeila 03:04, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

They call you Jake...
So your real name is Jacob I assume?-- / u / nending <font color="#990000">fear   15:57, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
 * You can be just called Jake. I know a guy who is just called Jake.--User Oneshot O.JPG neshot 16:00, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
 * That's why I'm asking :)-- / u / nending <font color="#990000">fear  User Unendingfear Avatar.png 16:03, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
 * My full name's Jacob but no one except my mother's called me that since I was like four--TahiriVeila 16:04, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
 * We all call UF jake, even though he is Jacob. →[ » Halogod User Halogod35 Sig.png  (talk)« ]← 16:05, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I see, good to know there's another Jacob on the wiki :3-- / u / nending <font color="#990000">fear  User Unendingfear Avatar.png 16:10, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Good bye now, Jacob. -- -Chaos?- (moo!) -- 19:40, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Õ_ó
^ Morphy 16:18, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
 * hai?--TahiriVeila 18:44, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Morphy is still watching y00. Morphy 09:57, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Hey pals
<3--TahiriVeila 15:37, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Good day to you, sir. <font color="#000000">Infested <font color="#CD0000">Hydralisk  15:43, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Man a month without "trolling", I guess we need to make up for that! --<font color="Black">Frosty  [[Image:User Frosty Frostcharge sig.jpg|19px]] 15:48, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Unb&
Hi, welcome to wiki again. In case you missed it, you're part of a Cabal now; have fun with that. In other news, some more people got banned. Also, add me on my new MSN, because the old one died. Also tell KJ to add me. &mdash; Raine Valen    1:09, 12 Sep 2010 (UTC)
 * Cabal? orly? And i've been posting under IP (apparently whoever it was didn't ban my IP and just my account) for like the last 2 months now. Anyway I added you, did I have your msn before? O.o --Jake01:41, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I told Jon that was you, but he didn't think the evidence was strong enough. [[Image:User_Felix_Omni_Signature.png]]elix Omni 03:04, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Ohey guys, that was a fun 6 month block, wasn't it?--TahiriVeila 04:21, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Way to break the EULA on your user page. [[Image:User_Felix_Omni_Signature.png]]elix Omni 05:17, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
 * /care--TahiriVeila 14:11, 30 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Ohai, darling. <font color="Black" face="cambria">Karate [[File:User Karate Jesus KJ for sig.png]] <font color="Black">Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">02:10, 1 December 2010  (UTC)
 * Hey babe <3 Armond won't let me advertise that I want to buy accounts =\--TahiriVeila 03:28, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Didn't get the wrongly banned farming account back yet?
 * Working on it.--TahiriVeila 04:35, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Hey babes--TahiriVeila 21:08, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Stop getting banned pls. &mdash;  Raine Valen  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  22:08, 6 Jan 2011 (UTC)
 * I only ever get banned for ignoring bans anyway. xD--TahiriVeila 22:13, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Coward

 * @TahiriVeila i didn't realize u represented the pvp community ill be sure to contact you when i have questions.-[[Image:User_Zesbeer_sig.png|link=User talk:Zesbeer‎]] Zesbeer 06:11, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Sarcasm Aside, I would Agree with Jake. No one in their right mind would run it as it is now. Adding a strength req would make it viable again. Although, I do wish there was some other way to keep assassins from Abusing Secondaries elite's (they do that alot, if you think about it)-- Briar  User Briar Sig 3.jpg  The Spider  07:17, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Feedback:Getting started. G R E E N E R  08:03, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
 * You know just as well as I do that putting suggestions in the feedback space gets you nowhere greener. John's been really great so far about actually reading his talk page and taking suggestions placed here. @Zesbeer, sorry man it's not my fault if you don't keep up with the gvg community. There's no need to get sarcastic and trollish about something as simple as a request on a talk page. Grow up. Sorry for the extra clutter on your page John--TahiriVeila 14:42, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
 * This section is clutter and you should feel sorry for it. Brb putting all my suggestions on John's page, after all, I do represent the gw community. -<font color="Black">Cursed Angel File-User Cursed Angel Signature3.jpg <font face="Arial" size="1">14:54, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
 * It was something that was brought up several times on both teamquitter and guru after the change was made (I can dig up threads for you if you like). Since the communities affected were largely ignored when the change was made it seems appropriate to raise the issue with the lead designer himself when the next round of skill revisions are on the horizon. I find it utterly hilarious that the gww community can take a simple request for reexamination of a skill change and find cause for trolling.--TahiriVeila 17:13, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Jake, Why are you responding to Mr. Obvious? -- Briar  User Briar Sig 3.jpg  The Spider  17:18, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
 * CM: "Assassins are running rampant with Coward. Wat do?!"


 * Dev: "Um....guess we could add a recharge, right? Yeah, let's do that."


 * Random Intern: "Couldn't you just tie it to Strength?"

"Your job is to fetch coffee and give reach-arounds!" "Yeah, get out of here, you!"
 * CM + Dev: "No!"


 * That is how I picture the Live Team every day. Except that the 97% of the work day that wasn't filled by this conversation involved naps and reach-arounds. <font color="Black" face="cambria">Karate [[File:User Karate Jesus KJ for sig.png]] <font color="Black">Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">18:06, 8 February 2011  (UTC)
 * @TahiriVeila i trolled you because of how lol uber cocky your being, saying you represent the entire pvp community which i know isn't true, there might be a few threads on a skill on two forms, oh man that means one person represents a community as a hole... oh wait no it doesn't. if you want someone to read your request and take it seriously don't make accusations that are wild and untrue. -[[Image:User_Zesbeer_sig.png|link=User talk:Zesbeer‎]] Zesbeer 00:17, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
 * did u fill out the form first? i think u need one. that and a dictionary. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:129.161.204.243 (talk).
 * From experience, trying to pass off one's badness as trolling doesn't work. -- Armond[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 00:52, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
 * PvE Tombs shitters make me lol. Quit while you're behind.--TahiriVeila 01:13, 9 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Hey, guys. Can we play nicely?  &mdash;  Raine Valen  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  2:06, 9 Feb 2011 (UTC)
 * Michelle, you know better than that. Also, you're never on MSN and it upsets me. <font color="Black" face="cambria">Karate [[File:User Karate Jesus KJ for sig.png]] <font color="Black">Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">05:18, 9 February 2011  (UTC)
 * *some witty comment about pots and kettles*--TahiriVeila 05:22, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I am online silly lesbian. <font color="Black" face="cambria">Karate [[File:User Karate Jesus KJ for sig.png]] <font color="Black">Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">05:37, 9 February 2011  (UTC)

Hey
How's your sister? -- Briar    The Spider  05:52, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
 * doing just fine, why?--TahiriVeila 15:06, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Could you rephrase?
Could you rephrase this to something less likely to be misconstrued? Thank you. — Tennessee Ernie Ford ( TEF ) 05:39, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Images
There appears to have been a miscommunication. When you upload images which potentially conflict with policies on this wiki, it takes time and energy on my part to verify if there is an issue or not. This is time and energy which I would rather spend elsewhere on this wiki than over such a petty thing. When you do not take the responsibility to show that this image has been released under the GFDL, it is frankly sad and frustrating. This is your last warning. G R E E N E R 08:36, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Fucking Eww.
You're in the BonD alliance? -- Briar    The Spider  07:10, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Nope.--TahiriVeila 15:02, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Good.-- Briar  User Briar Sig 3.jpg  The Spider  21:24, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Yep. I'm in LOD on my main account and Grinch's BYOB guild on my pvp acct.--TahiriVeila 22:08, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

IMPORTANT QUESTION SOMEONE HELP
Apparently I'm a dumb nerd and managed to purchase euro account keys for my account. Is there any way to change my settings so that prices in the store are listed in USD instead of euro? Cheers--TahiriVeila 22:18, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * nevermind I'm a derp.--TahiriVeila 22:19, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

On your block(s)
I've given the matter some thought, and decided it's time to present to you an ultimatum. As you may have noticed, in 2010 you have been blocked for a grand total of ten times. I honestly don't believe that's beneficial to the wiki, so the next time you do something block-worthy, I'll be extending whatever block is imposed upon you to one year, no matter the circumstances. After that any further breaches of policy will result in a permaban.

I shouldn't have to state this, but do not respond to this message before your block has expired. &mdash; Why 13:15, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
 * This wiki is so adorable. I wish I was part of the wikicabal so I could troll like crazy and not get banned. <font color="Black" face="cambria">Karate [[File:User Karate Jesus KJ for sig.png]] <font color="Black">Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">14:55, 11 March 2011  (UTC)
 * Just doing what I think is best. You are free to disagree, but I've made up my mind and there's little anyone can do to change it. If you believe I am misusing my sysop tools, please head on over to my RFA and sign the reconfirmation request list. I believe this warning and the possible consequences are perfectly within the limits of acceptable and, moreover, reasonable sysop behavior. &mdash; Why [[Image:User Why s.png|User talk:Why]] 15:50, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I think that's fair, especially taking into account his multiple circumvention of blocks just to troll or commit another PA. I think the sysop team actually has been quite patient with him by not implementing a perma block yet.  But I kinda don't like him so I may be biased.  --<font color ="#8b0701">Lania  [[Image:User Lania Elderfire pinkribbon.jpg]]16:02, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
 * People should just have a literally cuter attitude towards dicks. Take each annoying post as a mere expressing of opinion and ignore the shit: take the point from the comments, not the insults. Jake is actually ok-cool in private. I'm not saying any behavior should be tolerated, but letting something as petty as opinion govern behavior is silly. -- DANDY ^_^ -- 20:45, 11 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Tbh KJ, look at his ban record. There's no arguing in his defense with a rap sheet like that. - Auron 16:15, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, I wasn't defending Jake. He's a huge/obvious troll. I was suggesting that there are many other trolls who are less obvious and far more successful on this wiki, yet they go unbanned for some reason (or get 12 hour bans). <font color="Black" face="cambria">Karate [[File:User Karate Jesus KJ for sig.png]] <font color="Black">Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">20:16, 12 March 2011  (UTC)

Kiss?
Okay. →← 04:13, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Come at me bro. I'll be waiting.--TahiriVeila 04:14, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Shadow Meld
Note about merchants is no longer true. 2nd note is not an anomaly. -- 94.192.81.106
 * Pretty sure it is, as other shadow steps with similar functionalities (aura of displacement, shadow walk, shadow of haste, recall) will shadow step map range.--TahiriVeila 13:35, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
 * No they all behave the same, it is a misconception that shadow meld is "special". I do not fully understand it, because most of the time they go infinite distance, however sometimes they get stopped at radar range. I am currently testing and trying to figure out the actual process behind shadow steps. -- 94.192.81.106 13:38, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The way a shadow step works, you need to have line of site of the place you're shadow stepping too. Basically, if you could run there with your character, you can shadowstep to that position. With the shadowsteps like shadow of haste/shadow walk, once you go out of map range you no longer have "access" to the part of the map where you activated the skill (in some sense). So when you cancel the stance, you're taken to the edge of your compass closest to your original position, not the original position itself. Shadow Meld operates differently and acts more like a teleport skill in that it will always return the character to the original position, no matter how far the player travels away from it.--TahiriVeila 13:42, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Test it.
 * I played hero battles at the top 50 level for 2.5 years. I know how these shadow steps work.--TahiriVeila 13:45, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
 * And this is why there is wrong information on the wiki in the first place. I saw you also on PvX shooting down a guy that worked out the maths for seed of life and making up crap about how +4 heal makes a difference, when in fact the error in his calculation was due to information he got from this wiki being wrong. It should not matter if I am 94.192.81.106 or you are the left hand of god, what I said is a result of testing in game. If you go and do the same you will get the same results. -- 94.192.81.106 14:20, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry but I think you made errors in your testing because my personal experience with these skills argues for my description of their functionality. If you believe that I'm incorrect that's great, good for you. Just don't change notes on wiki pages that have been observed and confirmed by multiple users unless you've got evidence that shows the note is incorrect. Thanks.--TahiriVeila 14:57, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Mechanics change, often with absolutely no warning. If the IP's experiences are more recent than yours, you need to verify the information in-game before opposing him. [[Image:User_Felix_Omni_Signature.png]]elix Omni 15:05, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
 * If he can provide some evidence (a video would be perfect). Then I'd be happy to agree with him. But i find it unlikely that a mechanic which has been in place for nearly 5 years (and has been investigated by several people on this wiki, as evidenced by the skill's talk page) would spontaneously change without warning or notice and that an IP would be the only person to have noticed these changes. I find it much more likely that the IP's testing method was flawed and that he allowed a wall or other object to obstruct the path between his original location and enchantment release location. This would cause the game to not return him to his original location but would correspond to the existing understanding of the skill's mechanic. tl;dr the burden of proof should be on the person claiming the mechanic has changed.--TahiriVeila 15:35, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Video -- 94.192.81.106 16:12, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, great so the mechanics on shadow of haste have changed. I'm not convinced by your use of shadowmeld though, because there's a big giant chunk of toothy vagina (i.e. wall) between you and the start point which prevents you from teleing to the start point.--TahiriVeila 16:16, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
 * You can see that I am not stuck on an object, and I walked very clearly in a straight line. It always limits it to radar range (i.e this is not caused by an object blocking the way that is underground or in the sky). I'm not convinced that the mechanics have changed, as you can see in the video in some places you are indeed limited to radar range. I think it more likely that your extensive testing in hero battles was not very rigorous. -- 94.192.81.106 16:43, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Don't make this into a personal fight. The IP has provided sufficient proof for his statement, the burden of proof now shifts to those opposing. [[Image:User_Felix_Omni_Signature.png]]elix Omni 01:17, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

oh snap.  Anvi God  zzz...  02:10, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
 * ?--TahiriVeila 02:22, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
 * ? [[Image:User Anvil_God_AsuraSignature.jpg|15px]] Anvi God  zzz...  02:38, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
 * zzz don't be a prat--TahiriVeila 03:30, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
 * zzz... [[Image:User Anvil_God_AsuraSignature.jpg|15px]] Anvi God  zzz...  16:06, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Do you hve a problem? Or is there a particular reason why you're acting like toddler?--TahiriVeila 02:58, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

jsc
c, jsc --<font color="Black">frostels 13:35, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
 * awww fsn <3--TahiriVeila 13:42, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Re: Comments on Pling's bcrat page
Your argumentation that the pruning was a terrible/biased idea is sheer nonsense. You guys had that coming for months and as I perused the wiki while you guys were gone, there were not a few comments on how much nicer it was without your collective presence. If it hadn’t happened the wiki’s performance would’ve been slowed down more because time and energy that could’ve been spent making the wiki better would’ve been wasted babysitting you guys more.

"You don’t care about the performance of the wiki."

I should've written didn't care, as you were causing more trouble before and after the pruning took place. But the past two months, although not long enough to be a true test, seems to show a change in attitude. If it continues, great. Thanks for the helpful contributions and keep them coming. <font face="Monotype Corsiva" color="black">Sardaukar  17:49, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Half the people blocked as a part of pruning hadn't been actively posting for months. I hadn't even contributed in the month before I was blocked. It was an absolutely pointless endeavor designed to create so drama for entertainment. Cheers.--TahiriVeila 17:56, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Block
It irks me to do this, but I don't see any alternative. Trolling is just ingrained in your character by now. Even when you have a small streak of positive contributions (but usually when you don't), you'll step out of line and insult someone or bring up silly topics in inappropriate places or just plain troll for the sake of trolling. It's gone on for years, sometimes on different accounts even, but it's time for the game to end. - Auron 05:04, 19 June 2011 (UTC)