Talk:Guide to making a build

Here are some other tips for those of you looking to make a build...

SabreWolf 17:22, 19 January 2009 (UTC) (Kendil 07:46, 26 April 2009 (UTC))
 * Find a nice Elite skill, and find skills the complement that skill. Like Warrior's Endurance and Counterattack could yield a +9 energy gain.
 * Should I reserve a place on the bar for a self heal, or will there be a Healer with me?
 * All PvE bars should carry a Rez of some type, so try to leave one place for that, generally Rebirth, Resurrection Chant or Resurrection Signet/Sunspear Rebirth Signet
 * If I am a Martial weapon attacker, is there a skill that could improve my attack speed or output, like Flail
 * If I am a Spellcaster is there a skill that could help recoop some of my energy loss, like Ether Signet
 * All PvP players should carry a res, unless you're a healer, with short casting time. The only exeption is in AB because you'll get resurected after 20 sec. anyways.

WE +- is infinite energy for a warrior already so those don't interact.Ias is indeed needed but unless you can knock your target (hammer) having a DMS on you is not rly cool.Ether signet is pretty bad btw.I think knowledge of important skills is important. (bull strike,guardian,diversion,frenzy,... are examples) Lilondra   *panda*  15:26, 20 April 2009 (UTC) =Reason= I edited this because I don't think that step 2 was a step. IT WAS A PIECE OF INFORMATION! Leo1993 20:35, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

= Idea = Anyone else want to start a user community for build makers that have builds in their profiles? Is there one already? What would be a good slogan for a userbox? Necromas 03:38, 16 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I heard PvX exists.  Moo  brains made me do it!   User Moo Kitty Sig.png 13:42, 17 July 2009

Amusing
That this is part of the PvP section: "you might want to consider a re-useable res like rebirth." O.O' ena.  12:51, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

This guide
Is absolutely beyond terrible. It follows a PuG/RA mentality of everyone trying to bring a wtfpwn build and then hope they all work together as well as including such terrible advice as trying to ensure every damage dealer has some form of self healing or self defence. I would like to propose a brutal rewrite which talks about building for 64 skill bars (or 16, etc. depending on the area), with some minor noted exceptions for PuG play and RA. Realistically this is the way good builds are made, not by building a cool dagger dervish build then putting them together with your friend's cool builds to wtfpwn. I don't think the article needs to cover things like designing speed clear builds, because if you are doing that you need to be good enough that you don't need this article in the first place. Misery  12:25, 30 April 2010 (UTC)