User talk:Kakarot/Archive 2008 Q3

Omgz, talk page archived!
And I just ninja'd it.... >.< --  Wandering Traveler  14:46, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Was wondering who would be first. -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 14:48, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Normally I don't do this kind of thing either. But I just couldnt resist >.< --[[Image:User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png|19px]]  Wandering Traveler  14:49, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

From all your fans!
THANK YOU!-- Wynthyst 14:53, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL it was only just over 84,000 :P -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 14:58, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

tagging wrong named images
I should possibly better write this elsewhere, but i noticed that you are tagging many of the wrong named user images, so i come up with this idea on your talk: What would you think about new user getting a warning message in the first 24 hours after account creation when uploading images in general that are not in their user or guild namespace, similar to the warning you get if uploading once deleted or already existing images, getting a message like: Warning: Are you uploading a user image? If this is the case, check GWW:USER. You may want to upload your image as  instead." I think that would be quite useful, as i noticed that the first thing most new users tend to do is uploading images of their characters. &mdash;Zerpha The Improver 16:43, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Not sure if that is possible; Poke would know better; but yeah sounds like a good idea. Also if it is possible to have replaced with their username it would be even better. -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 16:48, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * People do just have to use the already existent upload form and press user image, so the image will be renamed. I think I have to improve that thing so it is more visible.. poke | talk 17:02, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * lol Poke maybe add giant arrows, flashing lights and sound effects =P -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 17:05, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The simple fact is they don't know they are suppose to choose User Image, because they haven't read the wall of text at the top of the upload form, or any of the policies, they are just looking for the right buttons to push.--[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wynthyst 17:15, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I do think adding some color... maybe RED to draw their attention to the important parts of that wall of text might help.. or simply eliminate the wall of text and make it simple points... --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wynthyst 17:59, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Make the letters alternating red, white silver, and blue in spirit of July 4th? Calor  [[Image:User_Calor_Sig.png|19px|Talk]] 20:31, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Nah it would be better if it were red, white silver, and red since it is Canada Day after all. -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 22:13, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Red frog article
safe to move this? You're right in that it needs to meet in-game capitalization. --  Wandering Traveler  13:53, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah I'd say so, no one seems to object to the move. -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 15:44, 2 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I believe that's because no one noticed it ;) On a small article like that, it's better to just move it and let whoever's against it bring it up. -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png| ]] 16:23, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok done :) -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 16:27, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you
Thanks for pointing out my mistake on TLDA Guild page Kakarot. It is fixed. Awesome User Page. Grims 17:52, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Please delete my stupidity!
I'm going to get ice cream as I think my brain has overheated. Bowl of Skalefinn Soup -- Wynthyst 00:59, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Lol done, was just looking at that and was thinking has Wyn lost it? Gave me something to do at least or was this a reason to spam my talk page :p -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 01:05, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Do I really NEED a reason to spam your talk page? --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wynthyst 01:10, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Well no but -- Kakarot  [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 01:14, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * &hearts; Woot, fear my simplistic heart. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  貢  03:45, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

delete old revision
If your still on can you delete the old revision on image, its one of those images that refuses to update :P, *edit*  one is having problems to on other pages and wont update. Fall 22:56, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah I noticed that first one when you changed the tag to arenanet image, done them. -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 23:01, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks :) if they don't update within a few days they may need to be reuploaded. Fall 23:02, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. Also I just realized that was my first time deleting an image revision :) -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 23:09, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Can you do this one too :) Fall 01:57, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok done that one too. -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 02:04, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * here too :) Fall 06:23, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * here also, wont update on all pages. Fall 06:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * here is another one lol Fall 08:19, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * here :) Fall 10:41, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Ok done the Awakened Dervish, Afflicted Ranger and Scuttle Fish. However that last one Image:Vabbian noble f.jpg seems fine on all pages and doesn't appear to have had any revisions deleted so I will leave it for now. -- Kakarot  12:46, 15 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Might as well take advantage of this section :). Mind cleaning up this image's history?. Dominator Matrix  14:41, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not quite sure what you mean Dom? If you are referring to all the image version reverting that happened a year ago between Bob and Santax I don't see a real need in deleting them. If they were causing the image to not update on various pages; as the ones above were doing; then it would be different but since all pages are using the most recent version it's not really necessary. Also the only way you'd notice them is by actually going to the image page which isn't something someone would normally do on a regular basis. -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 19:38, 19 July 2008 (UTC)


 * here's another ^^ Fall 14:10, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Done. -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 22:34, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * here wont update on spoor page. Fall 14:51, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
 * this one wont update on all pages. Fall 19:24, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * wont update on collector page. Fall 22:55, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Done, done and done :) Although there has to be an easier way than just deleting revisions, if you find another try re-uploading the newest version again mentioning the problem in the summary - something like "Reuploading version as of by due to refusing to update" would work. Then wait 24 hours to see if there is any difference. -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 00:21, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Or try purging the image page and the page that its on. Dominator Matrix  00:34, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Purge doesn't seem to work, I tried doing that on the Wurm Spoor image/page the day Fall left that message and it still hadn't updated when I deleted the revision. -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 00:37, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

well...
i dont see the point keeping coments/suggestion in discussion page if its already been fix? idk. --Ridz16 02:11, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * You can feel free to create an archive of old comments/suggestions and link it to the talk page, but not just delete them. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wynthyst 02:22, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Even though the issues have been fixed, comments can't be removed from talk pages under normal circumstances. It may seem a bit odd but they are normally kept for reference purposes. Also even though most of the next link refers to user pages the talk page section also applies to any talk page on the wiki - GWW:USER. -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 02:27, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

LIAR!
I do exist, look at my contribs. 82.34.128.95 20:17, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
 * See User talk:82.34.128.95 for my reason. -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 20:23, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Ya ino, I was just doing it for entertainment. Napalm Flame 17:40, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Image:User Wandering Traveler Bug.jpg
You can go ahead and delete that. I thought it was deleted for copyvio days ago, but I guess not XD. I have no use for it anymore as it is. --  Wandering   Traveler  02:35, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok it is done :) The reason it wasn't deleted as originally tagged was because Dominator reuploaded a new version; without the Windows interface which was the original reason for copyvio; before the copyvio was deleted. At the time I wasn't sure whether we just delete the original revision or not since I hadn't come across the issue of someone reuploading before it was deleted before. While asking Brains about the image yesterday I noticed that it included the picture of Sauran that was also recently deleted for copyvio so that nullified the problem completely as it was on all image revisions. Just wanted to explain what happened with the image. -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 11:51, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I remember seeing that. Frankly I couldnt tell what the heck Dominator did but I assumed it would go down for copyvio anyways. :P. Anyway, thanks for getting rid of it ^.^ --[[Image:User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png|19px]]  Wandering   Traveler  13:48, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Image renaming
Thanx for the remark i wil rename them properly <--- new too the user pages so still learning and tips always welcome--Bellando Mara 11:52, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * You're welcome, noticed they were tagged but nobody had let you know about the naming. If you have any further questions feel free to ask me or any of the other helpers (although since I'm about to go to work I probably won't be able to answer for a few hours) :) -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 11:59, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok renamed and uploaded and iam almost going home from work so have a good work day --Bellando Mara 12:20, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

The End
Did the wiki stop for you too, or is it just a conspiracy against me? Backsword 05:29, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * If you mean that you couldn't save or anything without the page timing out (or whatever it's called) then yes. While I was working on the headgear, particularly the Paragon one I just couldn't save at all and yet I could go to the page and the history just fine. Eventually after maybe 5+ tries I just gave up and went to bed, although it seems to have gone through eventually. It might have something to do with the wiki bug Wyn reported but that seems to have got archived without comment although she brought it up again shortly after the archive on Emily's page (permament link) / (regular link). -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 12:50, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Unanswered section
Hey Kakarot, while archiving I just noticed this section on my talk page which I didn't reply to. So here is the answer:

I'm not sure atm as I would need a example but I think it is simply because the  combination requires the element to be a div. Also it adds - because of the  - some other styles which are for most other things redundant and confusing. So we added a  class a while ago so you can set the background manually on any element without having the other styles from the skill box apply. So it's just the background image. Hope that (still) helps :) poke | talk 18:14, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah I sortof figured out the part regarding using a div on my own and updated my character template and although that caused issues with the  sections I just changed to a better looking way of doing the same thing. The two main things I was looking for when I left you that message was a possible fix; which you've provided; and also to find out if you had any idea why it worked for so long and then just stopped even though I; nor as far as I could tell anyone else; changed nothing. I might try using that profession-bg code you mentioned instead, thanks for the reply even though it was a bit late it still confirmed my change to using a div was indeed correct. -- Kakarot  [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 21:49, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

image deletion
this one should be deleted. is it possible to delete only this one and not the rest of the previous versions of Image:User_Y0_ich_halt_Epicwin.jpg? - Y0_ ich_halt  22:17, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Done, it should update the image once the cache catches up in . -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 22:24, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * nice, thanks. - Y0_ ich_halt  [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 22:27, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

o.O
plz block him or something. and what do i have to do to make this an official set of guidelines. &mdash; Seru    Talk 03:05, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Blocked and semi-answered the question on the other talk page. -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 03:14, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thx &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 03:16, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for that, forgot about that link thing :D--Alftagrabben 11:41, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * You're welcome :) -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 11:46, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm so full of PHAIL!
Thanks for cleaning up my mess :D-- Wyn 22:59, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem, mistakes happen -- Kakarot  [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 23:03, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Wolf's Greed
Does this really need another image? My personal thoughts are to stay with the image of the Wolfs Favor, considering they share the same skin. Wouldnt the second needed image just be redundant? --  Wandering   Traveler  05:22, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm a bit confused about what you mean WT, if you are referring to my recent edit to the page the only thing I did was to remove the image needed template since it looks like it has an image now; albeit a shared image; (at the time I was making one of my maintenance runs through the image/map needed categories that I do whenever I have the time). -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 11:28, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Wow, I'm stupid. I read that as a +image needed instead of a -image needed......I need to learn to read. Sorry about that >_< --[[Image:User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png|19px]]  Wandering   Traveler  14:50, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem it's an easy mistake to make :) -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 00:09, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you very much for your support on my RfA. I hope I can live up to everyone's expectations. Honestly, I was surprised by the overwhelming support I received. -- Wyn 07:21, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
 * you're welcome and welcome to the team =D -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 13:39, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Eh?
I'm getting more and more confused on this wiki every day XD. I tagged a few pages (this one, for example) for R1 speedy. Why were they replaced with normal deletion tags? They are a redirect to my user namespace, so I'm confused..... >__< --  Wandering   Traveler  14:50, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Nevermind.....Please shoot me. They were the talk pages..... I'm starting to think I need to stop working at 3am.... --[[Image:User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png|19px]]  Wandering   Traveler  15:13, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Abuse
Hi, there is a user that I find is abusing the candidate for deletion feature for pages. Backsword<- the user name of the guy, Swearing as I try to defend my page in the GW2 Skill Suggestion page (Blood Connection) talk page. Is he allowed to go free like this??? Plz reply immediatly on my talk page. Aswell as there are 4 other pages that i know of that are up for the same deletion cause which is rediculous(the cause). I check the deletion section and there are atleast 2 pages up for deletion a minuete. Plz help me. Miekit 06:57, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * ...and he thinks 5 articles is a delete tag spree.... Backsword 03:34, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * For someone who doesn't RC patrol or have lots of articles watched, that may very well count as a spree. Instead of making snide remarks, educate him in what a spree would entail, and why you've put deletion tags on those pages (and how you're entitled to). Also, I think Miekit meant that the problem was the reason put down for the deletion of those pages, and not just the actual tagging. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|18px|]] Brains12 \ talk 11:19, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Suggestions
Any suggestions are welcome :D &mdash; Seru    Talk 01:13, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Figured as much :) -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 01:24, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the color ideas! They will be on my userpage. &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 21:29, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * You're welcome, although I probably won't be able to see two of the three since the first is around 4am, second is 5am and the third is 12pm by my time. -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 22:37, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Joo showing me up?
Are joo trying to show me up? editing pages i just made awesome so you make it perfect? eh? eh? eh? Tearh 01:30, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Huh? -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 01:38, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * lul. joo perfected translation page XD Tearh 01:40, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah right, well that was just minor fixes. Also while you are here did you know about the show preview button located right next to the save one? It allows you to preview your edit prior to saving which helps you catch things like that and means that you don't need to save to see how something will look :) -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 01:45, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

I Got Your Message
Hey. Thanks for telling me. I am still new to using templates and such, and it took me all day to figure that template out. I am glad you moved it where it belonged (yes, call me a noob if you want - I am new. lol) and am also glad you informed me. So, if you see anything else wrong with the templates I am creating, be sure to gimme a hollar and, if possible, a link that'll help me out.

Thanks.

The Necromancess 23:02, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

IRC (to not spam Galil's page)
What is the problem? :( No working client, service blocked somehow? - anja   08:16, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Probably the main problem is that I'm not "supposed" to install anything on this computer without permission since it's not just my computer. I originally planned on getting my own a while back; think it was around June or July; which would have solved part of the problem but due to a sudden decrease in hours at work (something that ended up only being temporary luckily) I had to end up pushing that back a few months which was then pushed back even further due to a previously planned holiday. I do have a possible IRC client; albeit in the form of a game; but after testing just having the game loaded made Firefox perform quite slow and it doesn't appear to be just a temporary thing either since I didn't do anything else other than go straight to the IRC screen. Just out of curiosity which client does everyone else use? -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 13:56, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Chatzilla works fine for me. --[[Image:User People of Antioch sig.png|Talk]] People of Antioch 14:47, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I use Vortec]. It's a full function free IRC client formerly known as Pirch. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 14:50, 4 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I know quite a few uses Chatzilla. I don't know if that counts as installing something :) Me, poke and I think some other people use X-Chat - Silverex version, but that is a standalone program that needs to be installed, like the standard program mIRC. GameSurge also has a browser based java client, which can be used without installing anything (unless you don't have Java, but that would be unusual). And, lastly, Comparison of Internet Relay Chat clients on Wikipedia is a lot more extensive than this short summary ;) - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 14:51, 4 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Another thing I would need is the server/channel, something I meant to mention in the last message. -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 15:49, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * click poke | talk 16:13, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * irc://irc.gamesurge.net/gww is the server/channel; Poke's link will take you to the java thing Anja was talking about. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|18px|]] Brains12 \ talk 16:16, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * My link will take him to the channel :P poke | talk 16:29, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks Plingggggg, while the link Poke provided is in some ways better as I wouldn't have to get anything I always get an error message whenever I try to use that method; either by going to the GameSurge chat Anja provided or using Poke's link: "The application's digital signature has an error". Based on the more info link it appears that the digital signature has expired, it also mentions that the application will be run without the security restrictions normally provided by Java so I'll probably just get one of the ones mentioned above. -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 17:05, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Meh..
Tagged page for U2 two seconds after you deleted it. Check RC and redelete, please. Thanks, calor   (talk)  22:47, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Already done :) -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 22:49, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. *Makes note to bug Poke about fixing GWWT to disallow creation of pages* calor   (talk)  22:50, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I know I mentioned it to him at sometime not that long ago although I don't remember if he said it was possible or not. -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 22:56, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Meh; I was going through nearly all request when I did 1.1.3 - but I didn't see that one, otherwise it would be in it already :( poke | talk 06:56, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Hey Fag (Sysop or whatever those crazy kids are calling you these days)
Why did you delete the page for Guild:Pve_Scrubs? Just because something wasn't edited in the last few months doesn't give you the right to clean up other guild pages. Please stop being a faggot - Sincerely DE
 * Actualy, yeah it does. I'm not good with finding policies and their pages, Wyn, care to help me out a little here? &mdash; Wolf  [[Image:User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png|19px| ]] 23:41, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I responded on his talk page (and moving section to bottom). calor   (talk)  23:43, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Kk, ty &mdash; Wolf  [[Image:User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png|19px| ]] 23:46, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

recent vandal
tbh, i liked the category changes... - Y0_ ich_halt  18:06, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Category changes? -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 18:12, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * check your user page history. i just reverted one of the most humorous vandals we ever had. - Y0_ ich_halt  [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 18:18, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Pics
Hey Kakarot, thanks for tagging those. Didn't notice those were uploaded wrong. | Foul Bane | 19:56, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah it's a common mistake people make when first starting to wiki; since you uploaded those two images within the first few days. However one thing I normally do; something that for some reason I completely forgot this time; was to leave a message on your talk page to let you know about the image tagging. Fortunately you noticed the tagging quite quickly. -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 02:25, 26 September 2008 (UTC)