User talk:Raine Valen/Musings/Michelle

Nice thread you have here. You consider power over anything else. How about professions that uses trickery (mines,traps,counters,denial,punishment,spy,sneaky,etc.) to kill? Do you consider them to be Aggressive too? --ShadowFog 17:29, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 * We're complete opposites. I prefer to survive first, then fight. I suppose you'd be using Fire Magic where I use Earth Magic. 145.94.74.23 21:39, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 * No, I'd prefer aggressive snares. Water magic is hands-down my favorite.  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  Raine   - talk  08:22, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * If they are dead, you don't have to snare them. Misery  08:24, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Thing is, you can kite out of casting range of a fire ele. Water doesn't give you that option.  And Shatterstone makes things die (GoI Shatterstone Steam Freezing Gust Glowing Ice = 430 damage spike (~475 with Burning), for great justice).  Combine that with a melee spike (which is easy, considering that your target is probably snared) and you've got a just-about-guaranteed kill.  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  Raine   - talk  08:57, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * You can kite out of casting range of a water ele, too. That's sort of why it's called casting range. - Auron 13:59, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The point hes trying to make is that in low lvl pvp you cant kite out of it because you're snared.In high lvl pvp (gvg) its something different Lilondra  [[Image:User_Lilondra_Eviscerate.jpg|19x19px]] *gale*  20:31, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 * You know that no one's talking about technicalities; why are you doing that? [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  Raine   - talk  23:08, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I trolled, then Auron followed suit =/ Misery  23:50, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't troll me; I'm naïve and vulnerable. =/ [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  Raine   - talk  00:02, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Some ranger dshotted my Freezing Gust (QQ). I killed him with Shatterstone & Glowing: "I snare... with Death!"  That was so win.  Take THAT, rangers!  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  Raine   - talk  14:44, 20 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Based on your description of pushing people around in Rappelz, it sounds like your aversion to winning with imba gimmicks developed sometime later. :P STALWART 09:05, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
 * How do you define a gimmick? I know what you describe is often viewed as a gimmick, but in Random Arenas, it can also be viewed as bad luck. Due to the randomness, there will always be uneven matches. Had you happened to have teamed up with a Peace and Harmony monk, or even just a player with Expel Hexes, they would have had a tough time beating you. Without it, you have a tough time beating them. Are both builds gimmicks? 145.94.74.23 12:15, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The thing is, running P&H puts your team at a disadvantage (considering that you could have had a less-niche elite on your monk) against any non-hexway. On top of that, even against a hexway, you lose the massive heals to make up for the Defile Defenses and such that they throw at you.  So any monk running P&H in 4v4 is somewhat gimmicky, in that they're playing buildwars.  A midliner with Expel is doing the same thing, to some extent.  When your wins/losses stop being about player skill and you can say "I won because I brought x skill," there's usually some sort of gimmickry involved.  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  Raine   - talk  14:38, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Everything in that game was an imba gimmick, tbh. I guess that's why I appreciate the capacity to have balance in this game...  It's a pity that anet continually moves further from that.  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  Raine   - talk  14:30, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Sirens were in no way imba. Amirite? Prose 20:21, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Maintainable Wail of Doom + Icy Shackles in one skill is balanced, amirite? [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  Raine   - talk  20:37, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Except you can't remove it at all, can't really stop it unless you're pr0, and it's not like it's just barely maintainable, 20 second duration/30 recharge FTW. Oh, and the other debuffs.
 * This pet removes up to three other players from the game, hits for more damage than you do, and has 80% evasion. Oh, and it's the sexiest one in the game. Prose 20:43, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
 * How about a full-scale rspike... from one person? That's pretty balanced!  Or, ooh!  Immediately becoming COMPLETELY IMMUNE TO ALL ATTACK FORVER AT WILL?  Assassins were so hax.  Balanced game is balanced.  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  Raine   - talk  20:53, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
 * No, clerics were hax and too good at dueling. -__- Prose 21:05, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I love my cleric, kthx. Earth Spear FTW.  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  Raine   - talk  21:09, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

apex
are nobodies. There's no such thing as apex honor. - Auron 02:25, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * [apex] honor would be the lack thereof; I thought I made that clear... I'll look at it again.  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  Raine   - talk  02:31, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Affixing "honor" to a guild tag first requires that the guild isn't a bunch of nobodies. - Auron 03:09, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Biased bias is biased. Logical logic is logical.  Ironic irony is ironic.  And sarcastic sarcasm is sarcastic.  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  Raine   - talk  05:02, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Abused meme is abused. Vili [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 05:48, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I used it over 9000 times! That's madness!  No, wait... That!  Is!  SPARTA!!!!  lol, saying that made me JIZZ IN MY PANTS!! (What's that from, anyway?) (Also, LMAO!)
 * On a mostly unrelated topic, I'll abuse whatever I bloody feel like, thank you. [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  Raine   - talk  06:51, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * You had a sex change? Vili [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 07:00, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Much obliged. [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  Raine   - talk  07:07, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * R. O.  F.  L.  I'll never be able to eat grapes without thinking about that...  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  Raine   - talk  07:23, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I guess I should stop being silly and actually respond to the topic at hand. "You're the bottom of the barrel, honey, and I'm scraping it" was perfectly accurate, and I intended the inclusion of that reference intentionally.  [apex] and [DF] are (were) opposite extremes in that regard, and I think including [apex] there helped to make my point stringer: gimmickry isn't good, and I don't condone it.  I supposed [GANK] or [ttgr] would've also fit in to create the proper contrast, but I used [apex] because the person whom I quoted used [apex].  Once again, "[apex] honor" is roughly equal to "lol honor wat" in context, somewhat of an oxymoron.
 * I don't think the point is any less valid for choice of bottom-of-barrel guild; that was the point. Also, I made some small changes to make the sarcasm more obvious.  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  Raine   - talk  07:07, 21 January 2009 (UTC)


 * the 2nd part made me realise i <3 you xD Lilondra  [[Image:User_Lilondra_Disrupting Dagger.jpg|21x21px]] *Poke*  15:49, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

DF
You have to make sure you specify pre-White Wasabi-11,000 ecto-purchase-now-bad-DF against when DF was a real guild with some of the best players in the game. You know, back when the game was about skill not "buying the baseball team because I don't play baseball but I think I should be a famous baseball player" as it is now.-- *Yasmin Parvaneh*  21:33, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Example: -- *Yasmin Parvaneh* [[Image:User_yasmin_parvaneh_sig.png]] 21:34, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow... I always knew that skill(experience) only meant something if it can be backed up with balance but with skills(SF and stuff), is like anyone can grab a bazooka and call themselves master. Im still wondering why they never seem to nerf nor buff the correct skills.--ShadowFog 21:53, 12 March 2009 (UTC)