User talk:Raine Valen/Srs PvE/Builds/Underworld/Pain Way (UW) (Raine)

This happens when you piss Raine off. Also, I do not know if you took into account, but Hexbreaker Aria triggers only on spells.  Koda   Kumi  22:42, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Also, HB is a divine favor skill, not going to work on a derv primary  Koda   Kumi  22:50, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
 * 10 sec duration and 10 sec recharge. Looks fine. - J.P.[[Image:User J.P. sigicon.png| ]] Talk  23:40, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
 * You gain energy back from it, so it's pretty much free. Infested Hydralisk  23:53, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
 * HB dervs were HA meta for a while for that reason.
 * And yes, Hexbreaker Aria only triggers on spells, but that means that monks dervs can remove hexes from physicals without drowning in migraine, themselves. &mdash;  Raine Valen  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  23:57, 24 Nov 2010 (UTC)

Centurion's on Dervs? Special powers. Backsword 00:13, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi I'm not currently going through the page editing equipment descriptions. &mdash;  Raine Valen  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  0:22, 25 Nov 2010 (UTC)
 * I thought you'd know that's for paragons only... - J.P.[[Image:User J.P. sigicon.png| ]] Talk  00:26, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I copied the paragon section down the page and adjusted the skills, but not all of the equipment. At one point, they all said Centurion's.  &mdash;  Raine Valen  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  0:39, 25 Nov 2010 (UTC)

Mysticism and selfless are redundant. Selfless alone is probably enough, but let me know after your run. -- Armond Warblade 02:01, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Foursmen is a pain in the ass on Energy. With just selfless (and Glyph Lesser) last time, we wiped because we ran out of energy.  Also, from what I understand, we just couldn't heal fast enough because of skill recharges: this is probably referring to when we got mathway'd by two copies of Flurry of Splinters (lol, 70 dps on everyone that ignores any kind of protection); this makes me want to add Heal Other to the heal bar, but that increases the energy spent - if Selfless alone couldn't cut it before, it's definitely not going to manage a higher-energy bar.  Mysticism + orders may well be better than both selfless and Glyph, but I'd MUCH rather find that we get there and have unnecessarily copious amounts of energy than get there and and OOM-wipe.  &mdash;  Raine Valen  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  14:55, 29 Nov 2010 (UTC)

I could run both Dervish builds. Though i'm missing both 40/40 sets and the 40/20/20 set... :P - J.P. Talk  22:02, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I could loan you a 40/40 heal or prot. I'd be able to loan you my 40/20/20 prot, but it's customized.  &mdash;  Raine Valen  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  22:09, 29 Nov 2010 (UTC)
 * I grabbed the charr one. And i have HCT or HRT 20% in my storage. - J.P.[[Image:User J.P. sigicon.png| ]] Talk  23:02, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Changes?
So, after today's UW run, should we make changes (after discussing, of course) to the current bars based on our experience? Zetta 00:18, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
 * The only change I'd really be looking at is changing wars to sins or something. But we didn't really get enough data to make that call, imo, what with the keystone of the build DCing before any of the more challenging quests.  &mdash;  Raine Valen  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  0:27, 6 Dec 2010 (UTC)