Talk:M.O.X./Archive 2

Core Quest
Wouldn't the quest to obtain him have to be a core quest available in all capital cities due to EotN not being required to qualify for him? My guess is it will work like some of the quests in EotN which take you to areas in Prophecies, even if you don't own the campaign. 122.104.161.96 19:52, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

The original link showed Guild Wars: The Complete Collection as covering Prophecies, Factions, Nightfall and GW:EN. Putting a quest in the core outposts would certainly make a degree of sense, although since golems are originally from GW:EN it would seem a little out of place in my mind, but then so are most things, lol Lady Elyssa 19:57, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I doubt the possibility of reaching the location is the problematic point; it will just be some kind of message saying that you won't get him if you don't own all campaigns. poke | talk 20:09, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Just one of many A.net oversights. Golems came from EoTn but it's not required to get? Kind of dumb.-  Vanguard [[Image:User-VanguardAvatar.PNG]] 20:16, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * There is an interview with Izzy on one of the NC Soft websites where he says in the coming months the Guild Wars live team will be adding some new stuff to the game like quests. He said a lot of it will try to tie in with the coming of GW2, which makes a lot of sense. We get new content and they slowly work in the lore and story features to peak our interest in GW2. Tyria is a little too static atm, not enough cross over. It makes perfect sense for the recently surfaces Asura to cross over to the other places in Tyria and the golem could be a nice way to encourage more people to buy GW2. Not dumb or an oversight, just trying to connect the dots. 122.104.161.96 20:24, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * im guessing (and hoping), since only places like FoW and UW are in prop, factions and NF only: such a place will be added for dwayna, melandru and lyssa, where u need to clear them all once (or something) to obtain him. or just 1, idk -- InfestedHydralisk [[image:Shadow_Prison.jpg|19px]] 20:40, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * That would be one of the biggest updates ever for a game the size of Guild Wars considering the context. Lower your expectation to something similair to the Luxon/Kurzick quests prior to the Factions release. One small quest with a decent sized reward. Otherwise you will certainly be disappointed. 122.104.161.96 20:51, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * how so? they added DoA after NF release aswell tbh -- InfestedHydralisk [[image:Shadow_Prison.jpg|19px]] 21:00, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * You guys dont remember for the Sorrow's Furnace update either &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 21:02, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * tombs -- InfestedHydralisk [[image:Shadow_Prison.jpg|19px]] 21:06, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I've always wondered if they'd ever create a uw/fow-like place for lyssa, dwayna and melandru. and I'd guess it wouldnt take so much time (considering they have like 2 guys on gw1 it won't ever happen) to create 3 new areas with a few quests and monsters... --Cursed Angel [[Image:User Cursed Angel Signature.jpg|19px|talk]] 01:05, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * DOA was purely late content they had intended all along, so that can't be counted. SF and Tombs is a good way to look, but that was back when all focus was on GW1, and hell, just one campaign - Propechies. At most there'll be a few more quests like the .O.X. ones, though I don't know how many. As far as a huge new area....I doubt it. Maybe we'll get domains for the other gods in GW2. Briareus 20:05, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

What the Hell? Where is M.O.X?
I have been waiting all day and still no update..... Come on Anet the People want M.O.X!!!!!!!!!! 87.68.41.54 20:46, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Remember that ArenaNet are on Pacific Standard Time (GMT -8) and their day hours might be different from yours. Clan Yumemiru 20:47, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah me too its 22:44here and normally updates are at 21:00 I hope they will come fast with it, otherwhich i need to sleep and go to school and work till 18:00 tommorrow:s, plz anet update at 21:00 as usual. 145.53.242.142 20:48, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Have some patience. It's possible that the update is more than just adding MOX and a quick quest to get it. Whining about not having it yet isn't gonna make it come any faster. 75.146.48.190 21:03, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It would be interesting to see it. I'm here on PST and it's about 2:00pm. So hopefully they'll have it up and running. If not, then I guess it's not that big of a deal to wait now is it? 71.117.220.204 21:05, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd rather have the update late (as I'm writing this it's 23:50 here) or tomorrow, and in 100% working order, rather than *now* with a whole string of hotfixes to follow. Quality takes time - remember Brooks' Law!! Clan Yumemiru 21:50, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Just in case theres confusion about a confirmed update, here is a post Regina (sp?) posted about MOX http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4215896&postcount=1

thats fine but its 7:46 pm central here and still no update. I know we are supposed to get it but when? LegionRat 00:46, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Read the fine print:"This article or section contains information about a Guild Wars game or feature which is still in development.The information on this page could be subject to change on release." You guys cant take this seriously like counting on buffs/nerf on skills.--ShadowFog 00:57, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

M.O.X, Razah, and perhaps Livia for GW2
I read the above post by 122.104.161.96 ... "the Guild Wars live team will be adding some new stuff to the game like quests. [They] said a lot of it will try to tie in with the coming of GW2" ... and it got me thinking. Since golems don't have a lifespan (i assume, i might have missed that detail in GW:EN), what if one of our HoM rewards to be unlocked in GW2 is M.O.X, the super duper golem that aided your ancestors? Imagine stepping into the glorious room, sealed off for hundreds of years, to take up the powerful weapons and etc. of your ancestors and reap the benefits of their heroic deeds. And there to greet you is the age-old golem M.O.X, waiting to be reactivated to serve again.

And then we have Razah, a being (immortal? long lifespan?) created by The Mists themselves. I would be jumping off the walls if I encountered Razah, perhaps more bad-ass and experienced than he ever expected to become (he looks like Solid Snake a bit too).

And finally Livia! She is certaintly human and can't live until GW2 (at least that's what is assumed), but what if her quest to be Kryta's dark champion goes along a path similar to Khilbron? Could finding the Sceptor of Orr (or whatever kind of staff it is) and trying to use it lead her on a path to becoming either a lichess or a master over reality (the wiki articles for Scepter of Orr and Staff of the Mists describe them as being tools for controlling the ethereal and controlling reality respectively)?

BTW, on a more MOX related note, I see alot of people complaining that our "ultimate magic mechanized party protection" hero is ":( just a dervish /collectdust". Giving a machine the ability to channel the powers of the gods through itself seems like pretty high-tier, "ultimate" magic to me. And I'm willing to bet MOX is the product of that one Asuran's research into deciphering the essence of the gods or whatever.

TL;DR I can't wait for this update. MOX Plz, David Hayter for Razah voice actor in GW2 plz. 68.193.113.198 20:57, 4 September 2008 (UTC)


 * That's a cool idea...I could maybe see it happening but it's up to Anet 64.254.189.188 21:04, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Very cool idea, I could totally see MOX in GW2 like that, but as for the others, I don't see it. It is a very good posibility that the reason MOX was added was for just this idea, giving us a hero that will trancend time between games because golems are constructed. Very awesome if that happens, but first just BRING US MOX [[Image:Dervish-tango-icon-20.png|19px]] Devi Talk 21:07, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * If Anet likes big bronze statue breasts, then we're sure to see a place like Liviasberg in GW2. [[Image:User_Woop_sig.png]] Woop ‧  talk  ‧ 21:09, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't be surprised to find Mox as a (non)steaming pile of black and yellow metal and crystals by then... Specific characters aside, I'm sure we'll see someone in GW2 that we recognize and is not some statue. With the diversity of races and characters some are bound to have lived for 250 years. Oh, and there's always your friendly neighborhood Underworld xD &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:User_Poki_Signature.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]] 21:16, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * A town inspired by Livia... oh what a male teenagers dream that would be. 122.104.161.96 21:20, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Starring: M.O.X as Wall-E, cleaning up the mess of the world after the appocalypse between GW1 and GW2. Sorry, just my imagination going crazy :) 81.206.253.73 21:36, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * M.O.X., yes. He’s a golem, it just makes sense. Certainly, of all the options, he’s the one most likely to be waiting around in the Hall of Heroes for us.


 * Razah, yes. He’s a creature of the mist, made from the same stuff as demons but with a different mindset. So there is no reason for him not to be still around in Guild Wars 2. Not as likely as M.O.X. to be just waiting for your descendant in the Hall of Monuments.


 * Livia, maybe. She’s mortal, she’s human, but she’s after the Staff of Orr. There is always a chance that one needs to be ethereal in some form in order to control the staff’s full power. There is certainly a high chance we’ll encounter her as a lich or ghost at some point, just not in the Hall of Monuments.


 * I would also like to add the following.


 * Ogden Stonehealer. He didn’t undergo the rite right away, but there is always this feeling that he is just putting it off. He certainly won’t be in the Hall of Monuments, but he might still be alive somewhere in Guild Wars 2. Thing is, he is more likely to change then even Livia as a lich, given the mental changes the dwarves undergo with the rite.--Ryan Galen 22:10, 4 September 2008 (UTC)



Ahh yeah, the dwarves. Another tale of bad-assery, living weapons made of stone!

Also i wasn't nominating anyone except MOX for a HoM encounter, Razah may be off making a name for himself once his friends (you) die, and Livia as a lich/super reality controller lady will most likely be disconnected from your legacy and doing her own thing.

I'm REALLY looking forward to seeing MOXs forms and the plot of the quest (if there even is one). I was on the edge of my seat through the whole god deciphering quest line in Asura land, only to be disappointed with an odd-looking staff and a "please buy GW2" cliff-hanger :(

I await the return of seeing where Livia's ending left off, I feel she'll DEFINETLY return as a major Antagonist (In Lich form perhaps?), unknowingly being corrupted with the potential power and presensce (spelling?) of Orr and creating a new evil because of it. Nikdanbro 12:28, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Of course livia is going to be in GW2, how could us veteran players live without those titties?--68.116.156.71 22:34, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * You like them hundreds of years old? -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png| ]] 03:03, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Hero Armor (yet another issue)
Do you think he'll get some? And from where? I could only figure GW:EN armor remains would do... but how would it alter looks? :S --84.3.230.180 21:23, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Regina said on guru today that he won't but can still go in the HoM. --68.32.187.152 21:29, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Conditions
I'm curious to find out if he will not transfer the disease condition to humans or others, the way that Vekk, Zhed, and the others don't. Also, as a comment – it's too bad that he isn't immune to conditions as Golems normally are. He's PvE-only, he may as well be. Woop ‧  talk  ‧ 23:58, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * That would make him a better choice to bring than Melonni or Kahmu in any and all situations, period. This is what they're trying to avoid. The reason he's not allowed in PvP is for the same reason: his size and lack of weapon model would make him a better choice to bring into a match than any other hero. --Valentein 00:16, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Well it's PvE-only for this hero. I don't know why they would avoid having him be more preferable than Melonni and Khamu.  Melonni doesn't cry no matter how many times I choose Khamu over her.  Do you think they don't want to make him ignore conditions like other Golems do in order to make you NOT prefer him over the other two?  Maybe they're just afraid of every group having 3 giant golems? [[Image:User_Woop_sig.png]] Woop  ‧  talk  ‧ 01:02, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

New Build
Is here. Panic over, you can all stop sweating now... LMAO – josəph  01:29, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Well as much as I like MOX, I feel somewhat dissapointed that these "5 unique avatar formes" are just 'blah' palette swaps.A concerned citizen 01:48, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not the only one then. Before coming to this page I equipped him with Balthazar. All he did was turn a little red. Fucking dumb.-  Vanguard [[Image:User-VanguardAvatar.PNG]] 02:07, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I found it kinda lame too.. I wanted him to have spikes and stuff :P Kroulee 02:19, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Big suprise, different new armors "forms" are just reskins....*cough* Eotn Armors *cough*. While I understand that they are free updates, and I shouldn't complain, I feel like Anet needs to stop hyping up features and not listing the small print at the bottom... - Warior Kronos [[Image:User_Warior_Kronos_Sig.jpg|18px|]] 02:39, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Seriously, if Anet is gonna keep making useless additions like these and that igneous stone...I rather they spent their resources on GW2 and hurry it up.
 * Atleast the quests are fun and the rewards seem cool. If the Imp doesnt get XP it would be handy for Survivors Kroulee talk 02:58, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * (reset indent) All of EotN was a reskin jobby except the Jotun. Who cares it didn't morph form. I for one am simply grateful for the extra hero! All I need now is 7 hero party size and I'm set! *cough* hint hint – josəph  09:59, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm fine with it, I've never seen slightly false advertising before (apart from when Ursan was introduced before balance totally going against the whole "skill required" and that's past tense xD), to be honest I don't use Avatar's on my Dervish heroes anyway, far to much downtime in-between pwnage no? If I could put up Eternal Aura and care about seeing such substantial changes, I'd maybe be slightly flustered at the fact that the new unique forms are just pallete swaps xD! Yes! 7 hero party size sounds GLORIOUS! Voluptuous! Nikdanbro 12:24, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Hall of monuments
This thing can be added to H.O.M directly, i just put it in mine --Metal Sazz 02:26, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Awesome, I did too. It doesn't appear to be able to be upgraded armor wise, makes sense. Kroulee talk 02:29, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Why don't you take a pic from it and post it here and/or to the Fellowship page? - JoPe  [[Image:User Jope12 sigicon.png]] 07:44, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I added him to the fellowship page just now, looks good. It's my first real edit like that so I'm not sure if I was meant to sign anything but I think I did it right :P [[Image:User Kroulee Sigpi.png|19px]]Kroulee talk 09:18, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Innate HP bonus
Only hero with an innate hp bonus, +25 on his chest armor. Another reason hes pve only.--Ryudo 06:20, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * All dervish chest armour has that bonus. -- Gordon Ecker 06:22, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * wha? since when? i dont remember this.--Ryudo 06:24, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Do you have a Dervish? Look at his armor. It's been there since NF came out. --[[image:User_Jioruji_Derako_logo.png]] Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> .cнаt^  06:24, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Major fail, cant believe I never noticed that.--Ryudo 06:26, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

That's okay! People can make mistakes, it's what makes us human. 70% of the people I play with don't know a Dual-Attack occurs twice. Nikdanbro 15:25, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Dual-Attack occurs twice!? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:99.253.146.20 (talk).
 * Yep. See Dual attack :) -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png| ]] 15:25, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Pretty sure he was joking. - Auron 15:29, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Very well done
This has perhaps been the funnest amount of content I've played in ages (talking about the Master's quest Zimm gives). I would pay much amounts of money to play more time-passing stuff like this that gives benefits =]! The new Golem Summoning items are fun too! and like, yeah! 58.179.95.95 09:13, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah ANet should add more things like this. Another Scavenger hunt would be awesome![[Image:User Kroulee Sigpi.png|19px]]Kroulee talk 10:03, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I agree. I mean it wasn't absolutely spectacular, but it was fun while it lasted. They seem to have set themselves up for more stuff in the future, by not telling who the mysterious customer is. They also finally brought Salma back into the story, which has been a long time coming. Hoping they do more with her, she's a pretty important character story wise..and few people know who she is. :P Briareus 20:43, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

clockwork scythe
it says that the scythe can not go into storage. Not true mine is there now. dropped it off as soon as I got M.O.X. LegionRat 12:09, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Why does a level 20 hero not get created with a perfect weapon, though? It perplexes me to no end as to what possible explanation aNet might have for such a bizarre thing. All other level 20 heros have perfect weapons, so why not Mox? Silavor [[Image:UserSilavorSigIcon.png]] 09:32, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Because the clockwork scythe is a really rare skin, so if everybody's Mox got a max one, over several chars on an account..etc, everybody would have one. However, considering you can't even see Mox's weapon, I'm confused why the gave him such an awesome skin. Briareus 20:07, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Does it really matter if it's a rare skin or not? I'd rather a rare skin became a bit more common (not that we can sell the scythes anyway, they're customized) than a hero be given literal crap for a weapon. Silavor [[Image:UserSilavorSigIcon.png]] 03:11, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * What exactly are you talking about...it is equivalent to the weapons every over level 20 hero came with. And, like every other one, if you want the best, you replace it. -- Inspired to ____ 04:46, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Trivia
Perhaps a desperate attempt to leverage a trivia reference, but could "*DANG-ER! DANG-ER! DANG-ER*" be considered a reference to the robot from Lost in Space? (given the general computer/robotic references in MOX's quotes already) -- BramStoker (talk, contribs) 12:15, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I concur Gecko 13:39, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Hah, I hadn't noticed this section, but I have added that bit in the Trivia part of the article. It was the first thing that came to me when I saw the "Danger! Danger!" quote. Erasculio 14:36, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Seriously. MOX seems to be Trivia-city.-  Vanguard [[Image:User-VanguardAvatar.PNG]] 14:38, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Arena Net really likes their trivia : D Erasculio 14:42, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * While I agree with the reference to the robot from Lost in Space, I have to protest loudly against the Robby the Robot link. Robby was a guest star in Lost in Space a couple times, but is still a different 'being'.206.193.192.26 22:57, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Exterminate = Doctor Who Daleks? Kyle van der Meer  16:02, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Ugh, does MOX even say anything that is NOT related to something outside GW? -- Arduinna [[Image:User_Arduinna_Companionship.jpg|15px|talk]] 16:36, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

What's so special about it
Yeah...I havent unlocked him yet but...this article doesnt say anything stating his difference other than the lack of armor upgrades which is none. Can someone add his special things to the article?--65.23.203.21 13:12, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * the 10k gold for completing the related quests. Yseron - 86.64.70.44 13:17, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * WOW! 10k gold?...Since I dont use Dervish heroes Im just going to do the quest, get the money and leave that pile of junk in the dust.--ShadowFog 13:24, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Super Fighting Robots...
MEGAMAN!! Megaman O.X. !! &#39;&#39;a l i c e &amp; s v e n&#39;&#39; 14:30, 5 September 2008 (UTC)


 * heh thats funny, the O could actually be "Zero" and the X bring megaman x... although i doubt anyone else has really thought of that, including anet. Zero4549 04:23, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

how to select the color of M.O.X
guildwars said there are 5 kinds,but i can only see 1 green although i had re-entered the map many times.
 * The colour of MOX changes with different avatar forms. OblivionDanny 15:24, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Name
Perhaps I am blind, but I can not figure out what M.O.X stands for. I've not done the quests yet but I was hoping that M.O.X's page would say what it meant. Anyone know? 68.104.247.142 05:28, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Who knows what it could be. G.O.X. doesn't even know what the "G" means. It's probably just a wild bantha chase. Laserblasto! 05:53, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * lol gir "what does the G stand for?" "I DONT KNOW! :D " *goes crazy...and stuff* 92.238.76.95 08:41, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * MOX stands for Mongoose of X-trodinary size, duh! :P Silavor [[Image:UserSilavorSigIcon.png]] 09:28, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It's subliminally promoting Mac Os X =]
 * Mox is latin for "soon". Maybe reflecting player's awaiting it before it came. Also, maybe this is just paranoia. Noctarch 09:55, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It stands for More Outrageous eXpectations, obviously. Keneth 10:28, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Moderatly Over-powered Xylophone. if only... Lt Death 12:10, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry made a typo on the first one (Kinda spamming recent changes, sorry guys, I'm only human we all make mistakes. Lt Death 12:12, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Machine Operated Xealot.. ?a l i c e &amp; s v e n 16:53, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * X ealot? Not in my dictionary. 206.193.192.26 23:03, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

M.O.X. stands for Magically Operated Xylenol. Xylenol means Power Crystal in simple terms. =D 84.92.16.13 16:06, 6 September 2008 (UTC)


 * As i recall, M.O.X. is named after a chess playing robot who kills his human opponent after losing to him in some book... Zero4549 04:32, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, see the 2nd point in the trivia section. -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png| ]] 12:28, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Unbalancing PvE story arc
Anyone else feels that being able to get M.O.X at level 10 right outside Kamadan makes the Istan area insanely easy for a new PC? Granted, one may invite 20ish PCs in a party, but I just can't help but feel that M.O.X is out of place here. Lloeki 16:17, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The same issue is present in Prophecies, the henchmen don't catch up to M.O.X.'s level until Dragon's Lair. -- Gordon Ecker 09:18, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yea, i saw a lvl 10 ghost-running with MOX...cant they atleast make it so that you have to be lvl 15-20 to get MOX╙─[[Image:User Dogzrdogz Sig.jpg|19px]] ╠Dogzrdogz ╣ talk
 * Anet has made it a race to level 20 who cares if that makes proph seem easy now. -_- &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 15:10, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

With M.O.X. and the new fire imp thingy, theyve made all begginers PvE easy --Xilarth The Wise  17:43, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * And with the imp LDoA should be a joke now. Thx for killing one of the last hard titles. &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 18:09, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * While I never had any interest in LDoA and thus may not be up on what it takes, how does the imp help with that? Isn't LDoA about death leveling which is about an enormous amount of afk which the imp doesn't really help with? -- Inspired to ____ 20:43, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * He helps with all the solo runs killing the monsters himself and also he can just kill the charr for you after you death level them. &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 21:30, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * As if any part of that could really ever have been considered "hard". -- Inspired to ____ 03:10, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * More like an epic amount of time consuming grinding &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 03:12, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, so after 8 hours death leveling whatever, now it only takes 1 min. to kill instead of 2 min. Or, even better, you can finally go take a much needed nap while the imp spends 2 min. killing them for you...lol! -- Inspired to ____ 03:28, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * You've got to put it the fact it cuts down the time needed for solo runs as well. &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 03:36, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I didn't really understand your point about the solo runs in pre. Anyway, I doubt whether there are many people going...I need to go for LDoA now because of the imp, but if there are, then I'm happy for them (and I hope they make it before dying of boredom). -- Inspired to ____ 03:41, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The solo runs are the Charr boss runs, before your character is level 16 (and therefore is still getting experience from killing the bosses). Depending on profession and player skill, the solo runs can be difficult when you're a lower level player. The Fire Imp makes this part of the LDoA acquisition much easier. --Nkuvu [[Image:User_Nkuvu_sig_button.jpg]] 19:37, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep in mind the real purpose behind ArenaNet adding this kind of content. It's to stimulate continued sales, nothing more. Of course those of us who have been playing for a long time see this as making it all too easy, where Anet sees it as a way to say... if you start now, you don't have to spend weeks/months catching up... we've given you new tools/toys. Also, by requiring purchase from the online store, people will still be paying the premium price for the games, since most retail availability is much cheaper. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 19:43, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * By the way, a character in Lion's Arch with Nightfall can recruit four level 15 heroes through Battle Preparations at any level, and a level 10+ character in Lion's Arch with Eye of the North can recruit Ogden and Vekk. -- Gordon Ecker 01:01, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Snap Snap
I find this new content quite amusing, snaps too ANet. *Snap*Snap* --King Of Kamelott 19:18, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

M.O.X. Special Forms
Has anyone else managed to see or use any or all of these yet? Have only seen the green form so far and was wondering if the form is related to the class of the character it is associated to? Hence Green for Necro... Lady Elyssa 20:30, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Forms &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 21:29, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The form and color of Mox changes depending on the avatar, not your character if he uses Avatar of Melandru hes gonna be green --King Of Kamelott 23:13, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for clarifying that King of Kamelott, it makes sense now :o) Lady Elyssa 01:32, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The image caption has been clarified. -- Gordon Ecker 01:51, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

GW Trial Key
Just making it clear that I've tested this on one of my accounts...and using a trial key-- although it unlocks access to all 3 campaigns temporarily-- will not help unlock M.O.X.-- 72.147.95.253 03:47, 8 September 2008 (UTC) (Shewmake on the GW2 Wiki)
 * Thanks (btw, if you have an account on the official GW2 wiki, you can login here as well, the two official wikis share the same user list). -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png| ]] 08:31, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Question on Armour stats
Wjhy does it say 10-70 (depends on leve) when the only level MOX is available in is 20 --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:86.143.99.0 (talk).
 * Presumably because that's the default text for all heroes (including the other level 20 heroes)- TheRave [[Image:User_TheRave_sig.jpg]] 15:44, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

"...the ultimate in magic, mechanised party protection."
...really? Am I missing something because last time I check he was a Dervish hero. Is there any fact to back this up?--ShadowFog 15:51, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Since when have Dervishes stopped using magic? [[Image:User Why Are We Fighting BlackRose.jpg|Talk]]Why 18:35, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The Golem itself is magic and mechanised - I don't eventhink the quote is anything to do with profession. And as I've said before, it's a marketing tagline anyway. – josəph  12:09, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Killing your opposition is arguably a form of protection. --[[image:User_Jioruji_Derako_logo.png]] Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> .cнаt^  01:55, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Plus he's no more "ultimate" than any of the other heroes.- TheRave [[Image:User_TheRave_sig.jpg]] 08:33, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * He is the ultimate in "magic, mechanised party protection", since he's the only mechanised party protection there is ;) [[Image:User Why Are We Fighting BlackRose.jpg|Talk]]Why 12:25, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It's like saying "Apple is the world's best source of Mac computers". It's completely true, although it has no meaning. --[[image:User_Jioruji_Derako_logo.png]] Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> .cнаt^  12:12, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * What about the G.O.L.E.M. 1.0s and G.O.L.E.M. 2.0s? -- Gordon Ecker 00:39, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * What about them?(bad joke)...Nah just kidding. If my Golem had those skills 24/7 in PvE it would have been "...the ultimate in magic, mechanised party protection."--ShadowFog 13:58, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Its advertising, if it had of read "...big stumpy dervish, who is mediocre at best..." it really wouldnt have read that well, now would it? -- Salome  [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]] 14:30, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Icon
Is there an icon for M.O.X. like for other heroes. For example: http://wiki.guildwars.com/index.php?title=Image:Koss-icon.jpg&redirect=no (Limu Tolkki - talk) 22:39, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * yes &mdash; Why [[Image:User Why Are We Fighting BlackRose.PNG|User talk:Why Are We Fighting]] 00:12, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. [[Image:User Limu Tolkki sig2.jpg|Limu Tolkki]] (Limu Tolkki - talk) 13:12, 9 November 2008 (UTC)