Talk:Shelter

after testing it i noticed that when there is a shelter down,and a monk is casting prot spirit on his/her party. one of the members takes a spike of damage. the effect that was laid down first is the one which causes the effect of preventing upwards of 10% of thier max hp. this means that in a normal battle where a shelter spirit is laid down at the beginning, a monk in the party cannot protect the spirit with his /her enchantments. this means theres no synergy in this situation and makes being a protection rit much harder. my suggestion for a buff to rits is to change the way the rit spirits stack so that in battle, a prot monks enchantments trigger before the rit spirits so that the spirits dont take damage all the time and as such last longer. this rewards a good monk by allowing his ritualist partner to have his protection spirits up for longer and thus protect the party which makes it easyer on the monk. this would be a balanced and subtle buff to the ritualist in PvE without giving them too much power in PvP. this kind of thing might even make some PvE situations like fighting malyix the unyeilding actualy possible without jsut nerfing him.124.190.0.218 00:54, 22 September 2007 (UTC)


 * With 16communing and 16spawning power this spirit can reduce the dmg from 6 hits at most, yea thats worth the skill slot, cast time, recharge 76.26.189.65 23:30, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Yea well most of the spirts are being ruined even tho they were fair before this is just overkill. 75.191.190.36 12:50, 2 March 2008 (UTC)ChanneledChaos

Are you guys crazy? This is way better than Protective Spirit. Protective Spirit falls flat to Shelter, 25 energy, 5 seconds cast time and not to mention a 45 recharge? What other skill have this? This is unique! It not like I can waste 20 energy for two Protective Spirits, screw that! Waste 25 energy, wait 5 seconds and last...tada, 4 attacks and even less if its under fire! ....Note:Sarcasm.--ShadowFog 05:43, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Too bad Anet had to horrible ruin any spirit builds. I mean honestly.  It's not viable to use ANY of these protection spirits.  It's just NOT worth the spot in the party when another class can do a better job overall, and, you know, provide some other support.  Not like this energy-sucking 4 second "whoopdeedoo" skill.  Anet:  PLEASE BUFF SPIRITS.  If not for pvp, then at least for pve.  These spirits are USELESS as of now.  99.242.245.57 06:59, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Icon
any1 besides me think the icon looks like a spirit munching on a boys head? lol Jububju 23:07, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
 * BRAINS!Noelahg 22:59, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
 * You called? --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|15px| ]] Brains12 \ Talk 22:40, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * omg.. lolled so hard xD78.20.153.111 19:56, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

25 Energy
Even with the one second casting time and +levels in pve I still have qualms taking this on my Rit when I'm healing, True the effect is quite powerful but 25 energy is pretty much (if not over) half my energy pool. Anyone else find this spirit wanting? Weaponmaster 07:07, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Rits have so many e-management skills, that I never found the energy cost too big. I'd like a small tweak to health loss of the spirit or spirit level in PvP, though. Mediggo 07:12, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * i used to run this with Soul Twisting back in the day. perma prot spirit on the entire party is hard to beat. - Auron 07:48, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * When and where? Mediggo 07:50, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * 2006-7 high-rated gvgs, replaced the ritual lord rit in this build with it when ritual lord got nerfed. - Auron 07:57, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Nice. I really liked to play that Songkai resto build, too. How did you manage the energy with Shelter, though? Recasting it every so often seems little too much energy consumption to me. Mediggo 08:09, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I think it was 10 or 15 energy back then actually >.> - Auron 09:37, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Apparently. Mediggo 09:42, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Ritual Lord + Armor of Unfeeling
With Ritual Lord and Superior Runes, you can boost this skill to level 20. Combine that with Armor of Unfeeling, this spirit can soak a whopping 30+ hits before going down. --167.167.15.254 22:54, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Even with all that, 30 hits doesn't seem like that much, especially with a decent sized enemy mob. Guildwarsrunner 23:12, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * firstly, 30 hits is actually quite a lot, even considering the effect will be shared out among the entire party, wututalkingabout? and secondly wth are you using Rit Lord with this for? ST all the way :P 90.206.126.72 18:36, 20 January 2011 (UTC)