Talk:Juggernaut Toss

Inital Comments
Note changed about longest KD. I'm not too sure on wiki stuff so if it could be stated in a clearer manner go right ahead it should be done because at an accessible 19 hammer mastery you can KD for 5 seconds as well making it a max KD as well.--141.151.160.177 02:07, 10 December 2008 (UTC)


 * 19 Hammer Mastery, huh? Vili [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 02:09, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Well using consumables and other things like a +1 Hammer Mod you could get up to the 19 in PvE.--141.151.160.177 02:19, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Consumable and a blessing is required. Then the +1 mod is only one in five chance to occur. That's a lot of work for 1 extra second of knockdown. It's just easier and more reliable to chain knockdowns if you're looking for "long" term disable. --8765 03:38, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
 * My only reasoning was that for technicalities sake the notes be clarified so that it didn't look like this was the ONLY 5 sec KD. However i understand that it might be looked at like a viable option to someone perusing the wiki when in reality it isn't.--141.151.160.177 06:28, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

I wish the recharge was lower...Bive

Bug?
dont these have way more than touch range? Burning Babies 12:45, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The skill seems to be bugged somehow. I think it was mentioned on some other page. Mediggo 12:50, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * dont we need a bug thing here? Burning Babies 12:53, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * i just did it anyway Burning Babies 12:53, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I changed it to a bug template. You can do those with (or just look at the page code :).  --Star Weaver 17:23, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Longest KD in the game
Technically, with the Halloween quests this is not true. However, these skills are only available for this week. You could argue that Sugar Shock is being "removed" from the game. Are we sticking with the removal of the note? 76.103.242.232 06:26, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Sugar Shock is not being removed from the game after the event ends. ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 06:27, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Unless you want to name all these skills with their relevant achievements ("Goodbye Dash", "Grasping Much, Much Harder Earth", and "Longest, Most Utile Gay in the Game"), and have people new to the wiki see these notes and wonder where to get these skills, I think it's a ludicrous idea. These skills were never meant to be integrated into any other setting ... | 72 User_Seventy_two_Truly_Random.jpg {U|T|C} 13:22, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Turtle knockdown note revision
Juggernaut Toss appears to inflict a unique knockdown condition in addition to the standard knockdown effect. Only Juggernaut Toss causes the turtle to flip, and to become more vulnerable. Knockdowns inflicted through Earthbind cause the turtle to become interrupted, droop its head, and nothing else I can see in testing. The damage from Elementalist DoTs like Fire Storm remain identical whether knocked down or not, so no penalties appear to be inflicted. MA Anathe 07:52, 12 March 2011 (UTC)