Template talk:Quest issue

Hey everyone, it would be extremely helpful to my team if the players could give a recount of the steps that they took leading up to the problem that they are posting about. This allows us to track down the issues faster because we know:
 * where the problem is happening in the quest
 * allows us to retrace the players steps on our internal test servers
 * spot potential issues in what the players (or we) are doing wrong in how the player went about completing the quest.

Also, the How to Fix field seems like it could be tied into the Additional info field. Many times the player doesn't know how the problem could be fixed or isn't aware of some of the complexities inherently built into our system that has a way of maxing a seemingly simple fix almost impossible for us to implement.

Edit: One more thing! Pictures of the problem! A picture is worth a thousand yadda yadda... Those would help us out greatly as well. (Similar to the Art Issue template: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User:Gaile_Gray/Guild_Wars_Art_issues) Mike Zadorojny 5:18, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


 * This shouldn't be too hard to implement. The only thing that bothers me is that all instances where this is used will also change according to this, which means currently listed items will appear in a weird way. I think this could be solved by having a bot (or a human) run through each istance where it is linked now and relpace template call with text (subst function). I'd recommend doing that before changing the template, since we are removing some of the lines used now :) - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 20:26, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Would it be easier just to add both the Repro Steps field and screen shot field, while leaving the How to Fix field as legacy? I'm not up to speed on how adding a field to a wiki template affects already existing entries.  I'm not in the business of making people do more work... well, I am, but it's work that needs to be done for the good of the players. --Mike Zadorojny 20:59, 13 December 2007 (UTC)


 * It was an easier fix that I thought (-_-), it's done now and I'll try to tweak the template. - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 21:37, 13 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for taking a look at that. --Mike Zadorojny 22:43, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Question
Hey, is it possible to make it so that using this template created an edit link that allows you edit the content of the page the template it's being used on instead of the content of the source template? -Kim Chase 18:45, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It would definitely be possble if we simply took the header out of the template and everyone added their own header when adding a new issue. I'm not sure if it's possible to still have the header in the template and have a working edit link, I'll look into that. - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 18:47, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, good idea. Emily was thinking that there might be some way to make it do an edit link but she doesn't have time to look at it right now. I think just having people make their own headers would also be a simple solution, although it will take a bit of cleanup for existing uses of the template. Thank you for looking at this. -Kim Chase 18:51, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * From what I can see, this seems to be intentional and I can't find a way around it. (There might of course still be one.) I also checked some of the pages that use templates with headers (quest issues and text issues) and it doesn't seem to be possible to create "artificial" section edit links, since the sections doesn't get a section number, which is what is used to refer to them. I typed out a section edit URL for the text bugs page, and as you can see there it includes a real section made on the page and also the next issue, section created by the template. m:Help:Section leads me to believe this is intentional and it doesn't seem to list any way around it. So, my suggestion is to remove the section headers from the template. If we put up a notice for all our bored wiki editors, the clean up and fixing will be done in no time :) - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 19:11, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I ran that by Emily and she agrees that removing the header is probably the best solution. How should that be done? I don't know much about how templates work so I don't want to remove the wrong thing. During cleanup I guess we'd want to be able to take the text from the "" portion to make a new header out of, right? Then in the new instructions on the main page we can add the general header code above the template as part of the form. -Kim Chase 20:35, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Remove everything between "==" and "==" in the template, including those. Then update the numbered parameters accordingly ( to etc), and finally move on to the report page and remove Quest name altogether in  and make a header with the name by putting == Quest name == above instead. If no one else has a better solution or beats me to it, I will gladly fix it in the next few days. -  anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 21:31, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Hooray! I finally got a chance to do this today, and your instructions worked great. I think I caught most of the cleanup as well. I think this will work just great. Thank you so much, Anja. -Kim Chase 23:58, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Great! Should we do the same with the other bug report templates? - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 08:22, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Another way is to just subst them. You'd have to add the yes templates manually then, but that'd be asa easy as adding | resolved = yes, I'd think. Backsword 03:00, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Subst usually turns up a lot of ugly code also. Not really great when a lot of people adding bugs aren't used to wikicode. - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 07:25, 3 August 2008 (UTC)