User talk:Chaiyo Kaldor/Archive 2

Daggers
Heya! Heh, I never noticed that we put "Both Hands" on dagger articles before. Although, having looked at some random dagger articles, it looks to be about 50/50; some have it, others don't. If we're going to put it, maybe we should add it to the articles that don't have it? Oh, and FIRST! :P Kokuou 21:55, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * And here I was, prepared to thank you for being mature with this 'first' business. lol. Really, though, this sounds like a job for... "People with time to kill!" So, yeah. I'm going to go ahead and see what I can do. Since GWW:UNIQUE says to copy the whole tooltip, I would imagine there's precedent for this. -- Chaiyo Kaldor talk contribs 22:01, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Done with the unique daggers. That took...59 minutes. I'm smooth. And there were only three daggers which didn't need stat editing! -- Chaiyo Kaldor talk contribs 23:01, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * That's very close to 50/50. Calor  [[Image:User_Calor_Sig.png|19px|Talk]] 23:13, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No no, I meant that only three had perfect stat formatting. :P I did more than just one thing, you know. -- Chaiyo Kaldor talk contribs 23:51, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah. Calor  [[Image:User_Calor_Sig.png|19px|Talk]] 23:51, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Nice job! I was actually going to do some myself, but unfortunately work comes first. I knew that it was written down somewhere which information we were supposed to copy, but I couldn't find it anywhere, so thanks for the link. (You didn't think you were going to get away that easily with a blank talk page, did you? :D) Kokuou 20:24, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, your welcome. Anything to prevent me from studying for Finals :) No, but I really was finished for the day. And, unfortunately, human communication is a necessity in wikying, so I guess I wasn't going to have a blank page for long. Even robots are known to have troll aberrations, so I guess it doesn't get much better than this. Wow, I sure am laughing at that more than anyone else will.
 * Really, though, after Finals over here I (possibly we) should go through unique bows and such for similar formatting. If you want to go ahead and try to catch up, that's fine too. But I don't think catching up is possible! Mua ha ha ha. -- Chaiyo Kaldor talk contribs 20:31, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Jewish Iconism
I thought about the passage scrolls and the res scroll but they don't show up well against the black background that the wiki or IE6 is putting behind the items. --Star Weaver 18:41, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * D'oh. Rampager's Insight is awesome as a torah. Since it's two rollers, Berserker's Insight not so much. Completely forgot about those, which is sad, because there's one in my main's inventory right now. Thanks so much! Now I don't need one of my userboxes, though... oh well. Mind if I use this one as is and credit it to you? Don't think there's much I would change. -- Chaiyo Kaldor talk contribs 18:45, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Go right ahead, change anything if you want to anyway; I just crank out possible userboxen when I'm bored anyway. :D --Star Weaver 18:50, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Cookie for you. -- Chaiyo Kaldor talk contribs 18:54, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Cats
So let me get this straight... cats actually eat food? -- Shadowphoenix   03:10, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I can assume so. I put some ambiguous meat-smelling bits in a bowl, my cat comes and nibbles a bit, and then I leave for the day. When I come back, the food is all gone, and I need to fill it again. However, there is a very good chance that my cat does not really eat it, though I cannot prove my suspicions. As far as I can prove, cats eat food. -- Chaiyo Kaldor talk contribs 13:28, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Friendly Comment
On oni's page, you asked what an RD does. Hint: Search for "sway" on pvxwiki.

And Hai2u. -- NUKLEAR   IIV  11:06, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I did search, actually, and I did find some Ebon Dust things. Escape Scythe only popped up once though, with no link to Sway. That's sure seems strange to me, as that seems like a feature of Sway. That should be fixed somehow. *sigh* Maybe it's time for a PvX account, too... -- Chaiyo Kaldor talk contribs 16:17, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Link to build: http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:R/D_Escape_Scythe Link to team: http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Sway

You are welcome. -- NUKLEAR   IIV  16:26, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, thanks, but I actually already found them. My gripe is that there's no evidence of a link between the two, which seems a bit critical. They aren't exactly the same build, the Sway one fills in the optional skill, but it's practically the same but reordered. -- Chaiyo Kaldor talk contribs 16:31, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

explained it a lill more careful in mah page. >:3Oni  17:28, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, it was a bit unclear. Would you like that to be an effective conclusion? I would in your shoes. -- Chaiyo Kaldor talk contribs 17:29, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Move vandalism
To answer your question, no, rollback isn't possible for moves. Also, thanks for helping out. - Tanetris 17:58, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, your welcome. I have another question, though. Is there a way to mass-select and delete the pages created? This kind of interests me. Vandalism isn't an annoyance, it's way to learn how it gets shoved in their faces! Also, you can find the IP being used for this, right? -- Chaiyo Kaldor talk contribs 18:00, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * +1 Happy points -- I saw the move log fold in RC and well, it's beyond my understanding of wiki to know wtf was going on there :D. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Star Weaver (talk &bull; contribs) at 18:02, 10 June 2008 (UTC).
 * Sign on mah talk page, please. Also, I'm going into my contribs to see the pages needing deletion, and I've moved over 100 of those things, if I understand the double credit thing right. -- Chaiyo Kaldor talk contribs 18:04, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * (double-ec) Nope, no way to mass-delete pages. It's easy enough to look at the move log and pick out the blue links that should be red, though. Also, when blocking each user it automatically blocks the IP as well. The vandal would seem to be using proxies. - Tanetris 18:05, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I would have guessed that the IP gets blocked, but it helps to know. I think that if we can track it and publically announce where it's coming from, that would have a good chance of being a deterrant, like I've seen before when the source was mentioned. -- Chaiyo Kaldor talk contribs 18:07, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Just a btw, looks like its R5 not R2. If its going to be tagged with a code in place of an explanation, it doesn't help if its not the right code. Gj, though&mdash;♥ Jedi ♥ Rogue ♥ 18:15, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Um, guys... he's the one making the spam pages and then marking them for deletion himself. -_- --[[Image:User Vorith Shadow Ursan.jpg|18px]]  ՄօՒւեի  (talk•contribs) 18:16, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Take a closer look, Vorith. He's not "making" them, they're the leftover result of moving pages back to their original locations from when a vandal moved them to random names. See Special:Logs/move. [[Image:User Aiiane-a.gif|Go to Aiiane's Talk page]] (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 18:20, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I need to stop looking at these just in code. I thought Vorith was using quotation marks, not italics. Lolz all around. -- Chaiyo Kaldor talk contribs 18:22, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Just go for G1 tbh :/ --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 18:18, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * There's an R5? *search* Well, it's quite obvious that this is stuff that's unnecessary, but thanks. While this sort of thing would fall under 'implausible,' R5 does seem better. I guess I should use R5 from now on for the logs, but it doesn't seem to serve much purpose other than records, which I guess is all I'm doing. These ec's are keeping me from tagging! -- Chaiyo Kaldor talk contribs 18:19, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see... I just looked at the history and saw that the pages were created by the same user that was tagging them for deletion. I didn't realize that they had been moved. --[[Image:User Vorith Shadow Ursan.jpg|18px]]  ՄօՒւեի  (talk•contribs) 18:23, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The whole system seems like overkill anyway. It's not like its not immediately obvious why the page should be deleted. Any sysop could view the list of the vandals contribs and go down the list deleting without the articles being tagged at all. The tagging is only really useful here because the pages were redirects and its on less click to delete (b/c the tag keeps it from redirecting you). &mdash;♥ Jedi ♥ Rogue ♥ 18:23, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It's easier to go to the Special:Logs/move -- the links there go to the actual destination and don't follow the redirect. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 18:25, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Again, lol. Thanks for checking your facts first! Sarcasm that will probably land me in a heated debate aside, this little discussion took me out of the loop until the admins deleted the rest without my tagging. Thanks a lot, guys. Wait, no, that's more sarcasm. -- Chaiyo Kaldor talk contribs 18:26, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * For the most part, yes, tagging vandal contributions is unnecessary as typically people doing cleanup will just be going down the list in Special:Contributions or Special:Logs/move. Most of the time the only things that need to be tagged are those that are missed for some reason or other. [[Image:User Aiiane-a.gif|Go to Aiiane's Talk page]] (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 18:27, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't think the system is really designed for mass spamming like this, but more like categorizing isolated events, probably done in Good Faith. I just copy-pasted this, so it really wasn't much of a difference. Sorry for this double-post, I wanted to get the above down, as it was a response to an earlier thing. -- Chaiyo Kaldor talk contribs 18:29, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Auvo.
Deso devu sollu menta et? Et? ET?!?! Vael Victus  04:35, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I can't quite understand what language you're using. Latin? Italian? French? Made up? Use language userboxes if you're going to do things like this. Doesn't seem like any of the first three... -- Chaiyo Kaldor talk contribs 14:34, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * So it looks like latin, italian, and some french. Sounds great to me. Thanks! Vael Victus  [[Image:User_Vael_Victus_Sig.jpg|18px|Pancakes.]] 19:11, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Lol. What are you going to call it? Auvo? Is that it? Genius. -- Chaiyo Kaldor talk contribs 19:30, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Utopian. Vael Victus  [[Image:User_Vael_Victus_Sig.jpg|18px|Pancakes.]] 19:50, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I can imagine it now, with foreign ambassadors being so confused. Can you give me a translation of that first sentence? I can guess that "et" is "and," unless you're not going for a Romantic language... I'd also love to see a language userbox is made for this one, and what would translate to the text used in the main box. -- Chaiyo Kaldor talk contribs 19:56, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh actually, the idea is that only we know it, and it's not a full language, it's slang. I, the designer of the slang, and new calendar, wanted to cut away the regular "oh hi, how r u" bullshit we use day-to-day, but others didn't. So I made it more of a free form sorta thing. With utopian words, based on names being like, (jack, would be Jaq, mike would be Maik) the sentence I told you was:


 * "Hello. (space) (space) How are you (and) what are you up to? Goodbye, farewell (respectable goodbye)," and I must admit that "et" I just threw in there for the lulz, meaning, "OK?". For an idea of how I'm making it, basically I don't like saying such common words with so many syllables. So, o-kay is just "et" because it sounds like it could be, "okay?" and is only one syllable.


 * What do you mean by romantic language? This could get interesting. Vael Victus  [[Image:User_Vael_Victus_Sig.jpg|18px|Pancakes.]] 01:55, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Finally, my language hobby pays off! All modern languages have some root language, from which is derived grammar, word roots, and such. European languages are divided along Romantic and Germanic languages, the Romantic derived from Latin, the language of the Roman empire, and the Germanic, obviously, derived from early German. While English is seen as a Germanic language, since Middle English was influenced by Middle Ages French to produce modern English, we have a Romantic influence in English.
 * One of the ways to tell the root language is by common words. Most Romantic languages use "de" or "di" for "of," or some form of "en" for "in," or "et" for "and," which is what I was trying to identify your slang with. Heh, this reminds me a bit of A Clockwork Orange. Well, hope you enjoyed my boring language stuff. -- Chaiyo Kaldor  talk contribs 13:23, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Dash
Heya. I wouldn't call the dash you removed from The Geomancer's Test to be informal but just downright wrong in that usage: "If X, then Y" is never really "If X -- then Y"? I'd also mention that the free-floating hyphen style is typographically suboptimal compared to a &mdash; or at least a -- but then I'm picky :D. Good catch anyhow. --Star Weaver 19:02, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I meant to call it a hyphen, but I couldn't quite remember that critical nomenclature. The point was that hyphens are generally inferior to commas, especially in such a usage that so desperately cried out for a comma. Thanks. -- Chaiyo Kaldor talk contribs 19:30, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Reverting
You. Are. (Very). (Very). Fast. Good job, and thanks, Calor   20:05, 12 June 2008 (UTC)


 * If you know what I mean? -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 20:08, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Did any of the admins get less than one minute before? Just curious. I'm going to go check, anyway, just asking.
 * Did you just take my crowning achievement (lol) and make it into a terrible pun? If you did... that's a very banal thing to do and I'm ashamed for you. -- Chaiyo Kaldor talk contribs 20:10, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks! --[[Image:User People of Antioch sig.png|Talk]] People of Antioch 21:17, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Just doing my job as a wiki editor with too much time on his hands and a full brain. This is also a show of my awesomeness; see how I once again managed to revert in less than one minute? Truely, I am a formidable opponent for vandals! Keep that in mind if I ever try to go for an admin position. Not this one, God no, not against so many A-listers. -- Chaiyo Kaldor talk contribs 21:20, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Don't
copy & paste text to revert the movings. We have to keep the history intact. poke | talk 21:48, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, trying to figure out the best way to do this quickly. I'll think things through now, though, and focus on the "best way" instead of "quickly." Never would have realized I was doing that, so thanks. It was giving me an error, though, so I guess I'd better leave it to people who can actually work it the right way. -- Chaiyo Kaldor talk contribs 21:51, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Restoration
Could u restore jade flats from 1 day ago non intentional change form another page &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Azwildbill (talk &bull; contribs) at 16:47, 22 June 2008 (UTC).
 * First, use the new section tab ("+") for new topics. Second, seriously, sign. Third, do you really mean Jade Flats? The quest that has a delete tag on it and is less than a day old? Or the AB one? I would guess it's not Jade Flats (Kurzick), as that one hasn't been touched since November. Or maybe you mean The Jade Quarry? Any of those linked articles, really, but I can't go reverting all edits today on all of them. -- Chaiyo Kaldor talk contribs 17:01, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Jade flats luxon somewhere during the editing that page was wiped. nvm &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.109.171.111 (talk &bull; contribs) at 20:47, 22 June 2008 (UTC).
 * OK...I guess. Still need to learn to sign, though. -- Chaiyo Kaldor talk contribs 20:58, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Revert on Prismatic Staff link in PvP rewards
The green and the reward staff are almost certainly not the same, hence the change in link. The PvP reward Prismatic Staff is most likely the staff version of the Prismatic Scepter, aka the skin used by Khepket's Refuge and a few other green monk staves. Jennalee 14:58, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Besides, don't you people have a policy to split articles if they are about two different things? Jennalee 15:06, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * That's why I left that statement in the summary. I said to myself, "Now, it's quite unreasonable that a user with an extensive list of productive contributions would be so stubborn for no reason. Maybe we should try to reason this out if it happens again." If I had taken a better look at the Prismatic Staff page, I would have seen that the skin was Portal Staff's, and not a unique skin like the other page I was looking at.
 * Well, now that you've convinced me, let's not leave that link red, eh? Could you make a screenshot of it? -- Chaiyo Kaldor talk contribs 15:54, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the explanation why you changed it. I agree with Chaiyo Kaldor to not leave the article red. I have no access to the exotic weapons, so do not know how the skin should look like. --Jurrit 16:05, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, you could create the page as a placeholder until an image is uploaded, I believe User talk:WarIock is working to get images of the long-missing Exotic weapons. I have been speaking to him about it, maybe you guys could coordinate? :) Jennalee 00:29, 26 June 2008 (UTC)