Talk:Drop

Now...i do not understand the droprate for players. In party's i get white, blue and purples while others get black dye's and three to four gold drops. In (vanquish)hard mode not having much trouble at all i get lousy white Raven & Bo staffs? three or four at a time?

More people are collecting evidence to make their grievance know. Some players feel there is some kind of "Unlucky" jinx at work.

So... how does it work? How to de-jinx?

--Silverleaf
 * It's all random. Just bad luck, unfortunately. --[[Image:User-brains12-sigicon5.png|Talk|14px]] br12  • (talk) • 17:05, 2 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I do not believe so. More players cannot have a continuous stream of bad luck. This game is balanced for the most part. --Silverleaf [[Image:User Silverleaf sig.png]]


 * Yes, they can. Just because you have some bad luck does not mean there is a conspiracy against you. Drops do not need balancing, because they are random. Ale_Jrb  ( talk ) 17:20, 2 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I didn't mention a conspiracy or anything. Not that paranoid. I simple want to understand the drop rate. For more than one player that's seems to have "lower-than-usual" drop chance. --Silverleaf [[Image:User Silverleaf sig.png]]

That's actually how stats works. Assuming all drops are random, a fair distribution is far more unlikely than an unfair one. Bobius 22:25, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

NPCs
Do NPCs affect the drop rate? I have been solo farming Strongroots Tanglebranch. He is located just outside of the Kurzick Unwaking waters. There is a Rez shrine there with the Kurz guards, priest and Merch. I have been getting almost no drops from any of the 10 or so creatures I kill. I never get far enough away for the NPCs to leave my compass map. Has anyone noticed this? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Mamertine (talk).
 * I doubt they contribute to loot scaling. &mdash; Why [[Image:User Why Are We Fighting BlackRose.PNG|User talk:Why Are We Fighting]] 21:40, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I've been wondering about this also. I've been pulling Cultist Milthuran (Outside Aurios Mines) to the shrine with his mob and killing them repeatedly to get the staff. Now, while it did drop, it was only when I killed him without assistance from the guards, but that proves nothing for one drop. Took 25 tries, 20 with guards, 5 without, 10 in HM (with guards) prduced gold/purple armor a few times but nothing else. Not a large amount of data, but it seemed to me that he was dropping items for me when guards had done some of the fighting, but I'd done most of the damage, but when guards fought him for longer (I'd be killing the ritualist/mobs) he'd drop nothing. Drop rate for everything fell significantly after about 10 runs. Pure speculation at this point but I'd like to know if there is any concrete data on this. 110.150.38.240 23:43, 30 December 2010 (UTC)


 * NPCs affect the drop rates, but have nothing to do with loot scaling. One of the easiest tests to confirm NPC-theft is Jarimiya, since he always drops a bottle of vabbian wine. If you pull him to the Kournan guards and if they contribute to his downfall, the bottle might not drop for you. If you do all the damage, you get a bottle (plus the usual random stuff). The easiest way to test loot scaling is to measure the amount of gold dropped &mdash; since it falls in the same amounts whether NPCs join in the battle or not, there's no evidence for loot scaling.


 * However, it is hard to determine the cutoff for when NPCs might get drops: clearly, they get nothing if they do no damage and just as clearly, if they do all the damage, you get no drops. The question is: what happens when the NPC does 25% of the damage? Do they get 25% of the drops? Or do any NPCs doing at least x% of damage have an equal chance to get a drop (e.g. 2 NPCs do 15% of the damage, you do 40%, and another NPC does 35% &mdash; do you have 50-50 chance with the 35 percenter? is it quarter chance for everyone?) — Tennessee Ernie Ford ( TEF ) 22:58, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Enemies wield weapons they are about to drop?
I was just in Wajjun Bazaar, fighting some Jade Brotherhood Knights. I somehow noticed one of them was using a weapon I didn't know. Since they are axe warriors, they should use axes, but this one was clearly using a sword, a Jitte. And when I killed him he dropped a Jitte. Strange? -- Magamdy 10:41, 3 June 2011 (UTC)