Talk:Spotless Mind

Skill is Broken
The skill is broken, testing confirms it. I updated the Notes section with the details of our findings. It may be unclear, it was difficult to describe Nietzsche 21:19, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * The gist seems to be that, 1. There is an undocumented effect of removing an hex when the enchant ends, and 2. That the duration of the (documented) hex removal effect is independedt of the enchantment, but shares the same basic duration?
 * Correct. This becomes very apparent at 16 points under tranquility.  The enchantment will die after 8 seconds, but 3 more hexes will still be removed at 10,15, and 16 seconds respectively.Nietzsche 21:27, 5 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Your last note seems to contradict that tho', as it should remove three hexes for a ten second duration if your first point is correct. Backsword 21:24, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * No because the hex removal is independent of the duration. THus even though it may LAST 12 seconds, it will only remove a hex at 5 and 10 seconds, the same as if you did not have an enchanting mod.  When the duration matches a point (at 5, 10, and 15 seconds) it does not remove an extra hex.Nietzsche 21:27, 5 December 2007 (UTC)


 * OK, so the actual duration have no effect, and should the basic duration be exactly 5,10 or 15, the extra removal does not happen? You've only mentioned shortering duration, have you tested under enchatment stipping? Backsword 21:38, 5 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I mentioned in the notes that removal of the enchantment does NOT remove a hex and the skill will NOT continue to remove hexes. And yes, 5, 10, 15 will remove 1, 2, and 3 hexes.  Essentially the skill checks the duration before any duration effects are factored in, then removes a hex every 5 seconds and an Extra hex when the skill ends, unless that falls upon the "every 5 seconds" marks and removes them regardless of the duration, unless the enchantment is stripped, in which case it will not remove any more hexes Nietzsche 21:48, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * i compressed your report a bit :) i hope i didn't leave out important information or post wrong information there. - Y0_ ich_halt  [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 15:00, 6 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Its fine. I used long examples because I really wasn't sure how to explain it.  The only thing you left out is that it doesn't remove an extra hex when it lasts for 5, 10, 15 seconds. Nietzsche 11:08, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

An additional consequence is this is one of the best hex removals in the game at 0 attribute points. It is a 5e 1/4 second cast that removes a hex after 1 second. Holy Veil is probably the only better option for hex removal on a monk secondary, and it is badly affected by NR (making it a 2 second cast). Also, it means that the skill is best at 0, 5, and 11 points. At points in between those marks, it will take longer to remove the same amount of hexes.Nietzsche 21:29, 5 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Today's update fixed it, the skill now works exactly as described (only one hex every 5 seconds, and not when it ends). And its effect is modded by enchantment duration modifiers.

Trivia
The trivia seems a bit far fetched. Whats the reason that movie is stated, apart from the "Spotless Mind" part? LunarEffect 15:59, 3 January 2008 (UTC)


 * None, it could just as easily be referencing the Alexander Pope quote that the movie got its name from. But it's still likely a reference to the movie. Nietzsche 00:25, 29 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Seems a bit iffy, because of its sibling Spotless Soul. If it was the only skill with Spotless in its name I'd be less skeptical. KrelusDerian 02:02, 12 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Went ahead and removed. --148.87.1.171 04:29, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Removes Hex when it ends?
Does it? Also if i have an Enchmod and say i have an 16sec long spotless, does it then remove at; 5,10,15,16? All inn all does it remove an enchantment when it ends (at 14) does it remove 3 hexes?89.191.25.45 09:25, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I think it removes the last hex, so 4 at 16 seconds and 3 at 14. -[[Image:User Auron csig.png]] Auron  09:31, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * It used to remove one extra hex when it ended, but seems ANet had fixed that bug. :(
 * So, without a +enchantment mod, this skill does absolutely nothing at 3 Healing Prayers. --NIN37 09:41, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * So this skills is pretty much useless whit the 14sec, u need 15 sec (ench) mod to remove 2hexes:)? 83.108.40.189 16:57, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * You mean three? -[[Image:User Auron csig.png]] Auron  16:59, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * It says it removes each 5sec.. Then ; 5,10,15sec, but if you run 14hp which makes it last 14sec then u only remove 2? 83.108.11.0 20:02, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Yea, but you said "u need 15 sec (ench) mod to remove 2hexes:)?"--207.172.193.204 22:29, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Outdated "information" on a talk page
happens all the time. Talk pages are not sources of information for players anyway, only for conversations about the page in question. Koda  18:00, 17 February 2011 (UTC)