User talk:Cursed Angel/Shaman

Looks promising ;) +watch :P &lt;HORSEDROWNER&gt;  13:22, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Idea
For your primary attribute, what about something that makes Shaman skills (and hexes?) last longer. Always wanted something like that ;) &lt;HORSEDROWNER&gt;  15:46, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
 * had no idea myself so i took that ^ ^ --Cursed Angel [[Image:User Cursed Angel Signature.jpg|19px|talk]] 06:47, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Nope
I dont know if you thought of this, but hallucinations and illusions are one and the same. You're basically creating a mix of a necro and mesmer. This is create, not mix. --Lustre Of Havoc 22:54, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * except the part where hallucinations are visual effects and illusion magic just health degen and movement/casting slowing hexes. --Cursed Angel [[Image:User Cursed Angel Signature.jpg|19px|talk]] 10:38, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't like Lustre at all. He should make one so we can criticize.
 * Hey Angel, I probably already said something like this in the gw2 suggestions area. I thought the hallucinations could pop up and attack the target, but the target is the only one who can see it. 15e 2c 3r - Target foe experiences a lvl 3...12...13 goblin hallucination. This hallucination is dispelled if attacked. So you can spam 4 goblins on an unskilled monk and watch him lose focus and die. Level 13s would do like 15 - 25 damage a hit. Another idea is 10e 2c 22r - Target foe experiences a goblin hallucination. This hallucination deals 6...32...36 damage with its attacks, is immune to spells and has 10...50...60 health. It'd just be funny as watching someone running in circles away from nothing.
 * I love the idea. Your call. -- Spawn  [[Image:User_Spawnlegacy_sig.png‎| ]]‎  Legacy  14:59, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

"Shamanic Illness" ''Hallucination. Target foe moves 66% slower and witness 4 level spirits which deals  damage summon at that foes location. This Hallucination ends when each of the spirits have died.''

I thought of something like this, the victim (and only the victim) see 4 spirits around himself and something like low drunk-effect but more red and dark. He'd still be able to do anything else but the spirits wont die on their own so to get free he'd have to kill them, and you'd be able to use antimelee or interrupt/blind him for great justice. don't know how to write it correctly without having a wall of text, and i don't know how to balance it. I'll see later but I have some ideas, no worries! --Cursed Angel  19:50, 16 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Gallowsong and soul affliciton (especially) are OP. Pls fix. -- NUKLEAR  [[Image:User NuclearVII signature 3.jpg|19x19px]] IIV  17:16, 16 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Guess what, I don't care. I believe I have a right to state my opinion. Go ahead and hate me. Illusions and Hallucinations are the same. Both are false images produced by the brain. --Lustre Of Havoc 23:47, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Not in Guild Wars. Destructive criticism is worthless to the creater and the reader. -- Spawn  [[Image:User_Spawnlegacy_sig.png‎| ]]‎  Legacy  11:09, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * If you can't take any kind of criticism, you really are a softy. I should have suspected you guys would whine about it if I didn't like your idea, especially since the idiot said hallucinations and illusions are different. Children these days... --Lustre Of Havoc 18:07, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * oh ure such a mean troll, i rly take offense and will go cut myself --Cursed Angel [[Image:User Cursed Angel Signature.jpg|19px|talk]] 18:25, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Good, glad I could make you hurt. Now go post a video crying about some celebrity on YouTube. --Lustre Of Havoc 18:59, 18 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Leave Cursed Angel alone, NOW!! -- Spawn  [[Image:User_Spawnlegacy_sig.png‎| ]]‎  Legacy  09:25, 19 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I suppose Cursed is aware that "hallucination" is a synonym for "illusion". he didn't talk about rl. when saying "hallucinations, creating visible effects", he refered to the window appearance in the game, possibly similar to being drunk, and with "illusion magic" to the skill effects of that attribute. "Ulcerous Lungs" for example is actually also only a "condition", but in the game it's treated as a hex. Game terms cannot be directly adopted as such for rl. That's true for likely every game, there's really no reason to get steamed about this... &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 10:59, 19 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Lustre is steamed because he's a flame in hot water. Hah quite punny. -- Spawn  [[Image:User_Spawnlegacy_sig.png‎| ]]‎  Legacy  13:10, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh yes, you guys are so cool ganging up together against one guy. I'm just so puny underneath all of your superiority. --Lustre Of Havoc 22:57, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Look, i rly don't care, ure just making urself look even more terrible. I don't know u, i don't know what argument ure trying so hard to win, this isn't even about u being butthurt with no friends, it's a page for feedback that I'd rly could need instead of whatever ure trying to do. --Cursed Angel [[Image:User Cursed Angel Signature.jpg|19px|talk]] 23:23, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I was kinda having fun.. On a related note. Woo Skillz! -- Spawn  [[Image:User_Spawnlegacy_sig.png‎| ]]‎  Legacy  12:59, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * what i meant to express with my comment was that this dispute is based on a misunderstanding. Sorry Lustre if it appeared offensive to you. I also admit that i was favoring Cursed in there, for the reason that you left the first comment that appeared dissentious to me. &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 12:40, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * u didn't say anything offensive, he's just joking. anyway, i uploaded new images but it keeps showing the old at random, when does that end..? --Cursed Angel [[Image:User Cursed Angel Signature.jpg|19px|talk]] 15:46, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * the Siege Mentality icon is showing up with a more orange coloring for me now. &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 12:33, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I just thought I'd try to clear this up without spreading the hate. :P The distinction between hallucinations and illusions is extremely important in phychiatry, because it can help differentiate between mental illnesses. The major difference is whether there is a stimulus involved or not.
 * Illusions are basically the misinterpretation of a sensory stimulus. For example, a person is looking at what is actually a pencil, but thinks it is a live snake. There is a physical stimulus present (the pencil), but the person sees it as something that it's not (a snake), and is therefore misinterpreted.
 * Hallucinations are the perception of a stimulus where none is present. A good example of that would be a schizophrenic patient is seeing a small child (think A Beautiful Mind), but in fact nothing is there. The person is sensing something (the child), but there is no actual stimulus. Note that this doesn't have to be a visual stimulus, but can involve any of the 5 senses (e.g. hearing voices).
 * I hope that clears this discussion up, as if it really needed to be in the first place (a month later, no less). ;) --[[Image:User Tero Gein sig.jpg|19px]] te ro 17:42, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm stealing your boxes
Thanks a lot, mate. I really needed these. -- NUKLEAR   IIV 13:31, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Wooooooooow. You did it without categories, templates and 36 useless individual pages. God I'm an idiot. -- Spawn  [[Image:User_Spawnlegacy_sig.png‎| ]]‎  Legacy  14:43, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Signet of affliction
A skill that..spreads...disease? Doesn't disease do that? ~Shard  16:24, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * He stole my skill mechanic!!! -- NUKLEAR  [[Image:User NuclearVII signature 3.jpg|19x19px]] IIV 17:06, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * shard it's a new skill mechanic, suprisingly similar to nukes new skill mechanic with the same name he came up with 3 days after me. it's there to give the opponent team a warning before the hallucination begins, it can be removed and, also spread so u can spread the hallucination it may cause for great justice. --Cursed Angel [[Image:User Cursed Angel Signature.jpg|19px|talk]] 00:20, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Mine is infinitly more detailed and more different. Kthnx. -- NUKLEAR  [[Image:User NuclearVII signature 3.jpg|19x19px]] IIV 08:22, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Um, Epidemic, anyone? Only this just spreads disease and not all conditions.-  Vanguard [[Image:User-VanguardAvatar.PNG]] 00:20, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Wrath of the heavens
Is utter shit. 5% is so horribly shit. -- NUKLEAR   IIV 11:25, 21 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Was just about to say... Is there any reason why its so low? -- Spawn  [[Image:User_Spawnlegacy_sig.png‎| ]]‎  Legacy  14:38, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * judge's insight and Heart of Holy Flame dervishes as it can affect the whole party since pvp areas are pretty small... but i could buff it up some --Cursed Angel [[Image:User Cursed Angel Signature.jpg|19px|talk]] 14:46, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Skill Icons
...Look really great. Congrats on those - they're better than many (most, even) of the real Guild Wars skill icons. Erasculio 16:06, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Mindrust is the sexiest skill icon ever. I'd dearly love to know where u get your inspiration/edittable images. -- Spawn  [[Image:User_Spawnlegacy_sig.png‎| ]]‎  Legacy  10:21, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I would like to know what you used to make them. --[[Image:User PoA Sig.png|Talk]] Antioch 00:21, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * photoshop elements from like 95... --Cursed Angel [[Image:User Cursed Angel Signature.jpg|19px|talk]] 08:30, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

So...
trances completely reward passive play? -- NUKLEAR   IIV  12:53, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * a few hallucinations just require u to stand still and sort of... maintain it. --Cursed Angel [[Image:User Cursed Angel Signature.jpg|19px|talk]] 12:59, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Tbh, you need more active skills. -- NUKLEAR  [[Image:User NuclearVII signature 3.jpg|19x19px]] IIV  13:56, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

I like this.
It looks like something that could actually function as an in-game profession.-  Vanguard  00:16, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Puppet Master
That's a fancy idea. But don't you think that 15s is OP? you can't do anything either, but other than completely taking out the foe, you can even use him/her to bother his team mates. Just imagine you use this on a flag runner for example.^^ Btw, in the current form, you can control you opponent, but you'll still see him from your character's perspective. is this intended? &mdash;Zerpha The Improver 16:07, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * How do you know that? -- NUKLEAR  [[Image:User NuclearVII signature 3.jpg|19x19px]] IIV  16:48, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * "For seconds, you leave your body in trance, your skill bar is replaced by target foe's skills and attribute points [...]
 * Up to this part, the skill would work like Arcane Thievery for your entire skill bar (including changed attributes)
 * [...] and you control that foe's movement and skill activation."
 * When reding this part it becomes clear that the previous skill mechanics are actually not meant to change your bar, rather lose control of it and instead take over the control of the target's bar. It's also mentioned that you control his movement, but it isn't mentioned anywhere that your camera perspective changes to that of the foe. :P &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 17:00, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * basically u lose complete control over urself (can't move so u cannot cancel the trance, just watch urself die) to take control over a foe. it's meant to be seen from ur own camera, since u sort of control him from distance... but yeh it's a kinda op 15 sec elite blackout :/ might be nerfed when i get the skills done. --Cursed Angel [[Image:User Cursed Angel Signature.jpg|19px|talk]] 23:42, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Anyways, chosing Raptors as boss refering to his sockpuppets is genious! xD &mdash;Zerpha The Improver 12:38, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * lol, this is slight super OP. Any sac skills would immediately be terminated, you simply take over the foe and sac to death. Same with elementalists. Cancel cast until you reach 0 energy and exaustion 90% of your bar. Cancel casts would thus be able to rend eles, wars (because of tiny energy regen) and most casters useless for ages afterwards without a BiP necro, which makes sac to death ever more viable. Basically you are making a skill that does this:

For 3...13...15 seconds target foe does nothing and probably ragequits. For another 3-22 seconds (22 seconds being how long it would take a caster to get 30 energy, 3 being the amount of time it would take to get 5 energy) target foe cannot activate skills requiring energy. For those 3...13...15 seconds both you and the foe take +100% damage and both die.

Yea, maybe its just me, or is being able to easily kill a foe every 30 seconds pretty OP? This is because: 1. You can simply run right away from all healers and thus die in like 4 seconds. 2. Do the above with their healer, effectively killing him without their team being able to do anything about it.

This would be worse than making Ursan PvP. It is worse than buffing Ursan to 1000 damage and making it PvP. In fact, it means all players woiuld just run a team with this as their main core and no monk (why monk when they can simply possess your monk). It would turn PvP into just who has a faster connection and thus can cast it while the opponents are lagging, then press 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and kill the foe in 5 seconds.


 * He stolededed my skill /cry -- Shadowphoenix [[Image:User Shadowphoenix Necromancer.png|19x19px|Please, talk to me; I'm so lonely ;-;]] 02:57, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

My skills
I've updated my skills page with two shaman skills. I still need icons though :P &lt;HORSEDROWNER&gt;  07:16, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * they're pretty good, mind if i use them..? --Cursed Angel [[Image:User Cursed Angel Signature.jpg|19px|talk]] 08:29, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure, it's your profession after all :P &lt;HORSEDROWNER&gt;  10:05, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Enchanting is broken. -- NUKLEAR  [[Image:User NuclearVII signature 3.jpg|19x19px]] IIV  14:56, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * maybe lose 3 energy each enchantment should be more in line, I'll see. --Cursed Angel [[Image:User Cursed Angel Signature.jpg|19px|talk]] 21:13, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Woot
Woot, I'm another boss :D &mdash;  ク  Eloc  貢  00:35, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oo, nice! Apparently I'm not reknown enough for Cursed to think "Hmm, how could I fit Vanguard into a boss?" :P -  Vanguard [[Image:User-VanguardAvatar.PNG]] 00:40, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * yeh i thought about it, you, DE, Armond and maybe Anja but i couldn't rly come up with a boss name with Vanguard in it :/ got 2 more elites to go tho. --Cursed Angel [[Image:User Cursed Angel Signature.jpg|19px|talk]] 00:52, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Theresa the Degenerate? H of the Darkness? Couple simple, stupid ideas I got. I haz characters, j00 know. Vanguard is more a faction than a person. -  Vanguard [[Image:User-VanguardAvatar.PNG]] 00:55, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * yeh I'll see, now i need 3 icons and some wall of text about the profession, and i have no idea what to write and it feels stupid. but i rly want that Celestial Compass for my monk :/ --Cursed Angel [[Image:User Cursed Angel Signature.jpg|19px|talk]] 01:21, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I want a LOT of those skills... But the "Disease" attribute keeps confusing me with the Disease condition.-  Vanguard [[Image:User-VanguardAvatar.PNG]] 01:23, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

:O
It would be very interesting if the current GW engine could support skills like Time Stop. Dare we to dream? Tyloric 06:26, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It would also be tremendously broken. Sure, you can dream, but to me, It'll stay a nightmare. -- NUKLEAR  [[Image:User NuclearVII signature 3.jpg|19x19px]] IIV  09:17, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Noooo Kidding.
=] well done Cursed. You deserved it. -- Spawn  ‎  Legacy  23:11, 29 September 2008 (UTC) =]]]

Kewl
A boss has been named to me :D. <font color="Black">Dark <font color="Black">Morphon <font color="Black"> (contribs)  14:01, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Doppelganger
Lol I wanna be the boss of that :)  Halogod35   13:53, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks CA. I luv you in a non gay way. -- Halogod35  [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|15px|TALK TO ME NAO plz. :D]] 21:33, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Your...
...profession rulez everything =P <font color="BlueViolet">| <font color="SlateBlue">Cyan <font color="MediumOrchid">Light <font color="SlateBlue"> Here! | 10:29, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * ^^ --62.13.9.58 12:14, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

nice, but balance?
I do like your Shaman and his new skilltypes. But some are too strong, like Leprosy, Plague and Puppet Master. -- Yullive 14:41, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
 * are there any elemements of the alchemist that you'd like to see implimented into the Ritualist? --Falconeye 09:20, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Feed bag
They all seemed pritty good exept 1 of them, Dim vision seems a bit under powered,looking at reckless haste and Blinding altogether.BTW,i wanna be a boss :D-- Nei l2250  08:45, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Shaman
This is awesome except for the fact its called shaman, call it sumin different that relates to its corruption 'n' stuff but yeah this is f***ing AWESOME.--Hubbard The Dervish 04:27, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

My Ignored Collection of Shaman skills related to the custom utopia class by Cursed Angel hope y'all dont mind ill delete if you do (icons are from old ones by you)--Hubbard The Dervish 05:46, 17 April 2010 (UTC)