User talk:Poke/archive/2008.3

That is
A lot of RfA's. Is that normal, I mean after a b-crat election or something? I must have missed something. :-) -- People of Antioch 06:20, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * You're next :P --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 06:22, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * O_o;; O RLY? --[[Image:User People of Antioch sig.png|Talk]] People of Antioch  06:24, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Hehe, it's not normal, but we really need sysops. - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 07:11, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm, if you say so. If the wiki has a need for more, then they will come and rise to the role. --[[Image:User People of Antioch sig.png|Talk]] People of Antioch  07:19, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It's just a opportunity everybody used :D poke | talk 10:54, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * whoah, just noticed - there are even more xD poke | talk 10:54, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * That's eight, wow. People are jumping on this! --[[Image:User People of Antioch sig.png|Talk]] People of Antioch  15:35, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Probably why Poke made this edit :P -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 20:05, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Semantics fail. --[[Image:User People of Antioch sig.png|Talk]] People of Antioch  20:07, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * heh :D poke | talk 20:12, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Odd question.
Are registered trademarked images allowed to be hosted under public domain? As is a registered trademark of Canada and might not be released under GFDL/public domain. Dominator Matrix  17:09, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * When were flags registered trademarks of their country? You sure about that? -- [[Image:User indochine dsk tree.png|15px]] Indochine  talk 17:15, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Since the department of Canadian Heritage and . Dominator Matrix  17:18, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * You have to carefully consider the distinction between copyright and trademarks when thinking about stuff like this. You also have to consider jurisdiction. Yes, flags are trademarks of their respective countries, but because they have no real authorship (no single person owns them) they cannot be copyrighted, and therefore are in the public domain respective to copyright (that is, after all, basically the definition), but may not be in the public domain for trademarks. Furthermore, depending on your country, there may be legislation unconnected with copyright or trademarks restricting the use of flags (this is true in the US and UK - they cannot be defamed, for example). In general, however, worrying about copyright for something like a flag, so long as you're using it in a respectful manner, is utterly pointless. Ale_Jrb  ( talk ) 17:19, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * (Edit conflict) Hum.. Sorry. Did some research and it appears the Canadian flag is protected under the Trademarks Act Section 9 (1)(n)(iii) but the image is released into the Public Domain. I'll see I can find anything useful. -- [[Image:User indochine dsk tree.png|15px]] Indochine  talk 17:25, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * . Dominator Matrix  17:26, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Jurisdiction again. As ArenaNet is an American company, they are not bound by the Canadian trademark laws. Ale_Jrb  ( talk ) 17:42, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) (Edit conflict) If you read it fully it also mentions foreign trademarks. Dominator Matrix  17:44, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Interesting - no, I had't read that. Nonetheless, all these tangents have confused the issue. Flags cannot be copyrighted, because copyright does not govern signs and symbols - only expressions of an idea. Therefore the flag is trademarked, an important distinction that means two things. Firstly, the license on this site, the GFDL, does not govern the use of trademarks - so licensing is irrelevant. Secondly, is the issue of trademarks and generics. Wikipedia puts it well - if a mark becomes synonymous with that product or service to the extent that the trademark owner can no longer enforce its proprietary rights, the mark becomes generic. This applies here - the flag of Canada, and even the word 'Canada' itself, are totally synonymous with the country. This means that if you are talking (or in this case writing) about Canada, the Canadian government cannot prevent you from doing so because it is their 'trademark', because it is basically the sole manner of referring to the 'political and geographical area, and its inhabitants' in question. Ale_Jrb  ( talk ) 18:10, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Furthermore, I'll direct you to the paragraph in question which says, The countries of the Union agree to refuse or to invalidate the registration, and to prohibit by appropriate measures the use, without authorization by the competent authorities, either as trademarks or as elements of trademarks, of armorial bearings, flags, and other State emblems... - of course, the wiki is not using it as part of a trademark, or implying that the wiki is Canadian, and as such the jurisdiction again returns to the US and the US public domain, Ale_Jrb  ( talk ) 18:13, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I understand it similar as Ale Jrb; also if someone is interested, here is the full article. poke | talk 18:17, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Interesting. Thanks poke. -- [[Image:User indochine dsk tree.png|15px]] Indochine  talk 20:10, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm puzzled
Look at Special:Doubleredirects. I'm puzzled by the one there. -- People of Antioch 20:25, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * That's the wiki's autodetection for redirect loops. #3 redirects to #3 so everything that redirects to #3 is in the same loop. poke | talk 20:29, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Changed that, it worked for everything. Hope it works out okay. --[[Image:User People of Antioch sig.png|Talk]] People of Antioch  20:32, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Delete template question
Hey Poke the last little while (as in not sure when it started) I've noticed an issue with the delete template; in particular the page history link. Maybe this would be better placed on the actual templates talk page but then that wouldn't cause you to get the new message box :P Anyway the link on the template on this page for example, links to this whereas the actual link should be this; the only difference is the extra www. but it causes me to not be logged in. Weird thing is it doesn't seem to happen to every image/article that gets the delete template added to it, just seems to happen on random pages at random times. Not sure if there is anything that could be done to fix it and I can always just use the normal history tab anyway. -- Kakarot  21:20, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see - fixed :) Btw. I have all those templates on my watchlist, so I would see it within a short while :P poke | talk 21:23, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

User:Dewdrop/Pepper
how come i tried the exact same thing and it didn't work? T-T - Y0_ ich_halt  11:15, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't think you tried "the exact same thing" :P And I can't answer it because I don't know the differences ;) poke | talk 12:25, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Wiki loves poke. - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 13:27, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Maybe poke loves Wiki? :O Ale_Jrb  ( talk ) 13:52, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * No doubt, although that doesn't answer Yo's question. :P - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 14:51, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * :P poke | talk 14:53, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 'tis true... :P I guess wiki just wubs ( ?) Poke. Ale_Jrb  ( talk ) 14:56, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * @poke: i did enter the exact same code and it only cluttered the title bars through the whole page o.O - Y0_ ich_halt  [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 16:27, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It might have been caching wrong. Where's your revision? Ale_Jrb  ( talk ) 16:30, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * if anywhere, in my temporary internet files. otherwise, it's deleted since i've run CCleaner since then :P - Y0_ ich_halt  [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 16:36, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Silverleaf likes active knowledgable wikipedians. :) -- S ilverleaf   [[Image:User Silverleaf sig.png|User_talk:Silverleaf]] 16:40, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I guess we'll just never know what was wrong with it then :P. Nevermind. Ale_Jrb  ( talk ) 16:42, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Ummm... hi?`
I just got unbanned... and have a question. Why the hell was I banned in the first place? I didn't have any warnings or anything. I just tried to edit my user page and it said "-your IP has been blocked by Poke:" and I have no f-cking clue what I did wrong. So please tell me, With no warning at ALL, how was I banned, and why? Even trolls and people that replace someones whole user page with "FUCK YOU" or replace my pictures with mud kips only get a warning. So what the hell did I honestly do wrong that warranted a 24 hour ban. Thanks.--Ñö Ẋ  ĭƑý'  19:37, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * You were unbanned 3 minutes after you were banned (Poke explains why on my talk page -- he didn't see your comment there before he banned you). The notice on Izzy's talk page explains why you were banned. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|18px|]] Brains12 \ talk 19:45, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * By the way, if the warnings to the people that vandalised your userpage stopped them from repeating it, there would be no need for a ban. If they carried on, they'd be banned in order to forcefully prevent them from repeating it (and if I remember correctly, some were banned). --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|18px|]] Brains12 \ talk 19:48, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, someone sucks at wiking because I was banned all night, and up until 30minutes ago. It kept saying: "-Autoblocked, this IP was recently used by user NoXiFY, start: (the current time) end: (the current time)" It was really fucking stupid. --Ñö Ẋ  ĭƑý'  19:50, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, I still don't see what was wrong with my section. It was just a note saying that he should look at rangers. Whats wrong with that? Stop being nazi's and read what I posted before deleting it.--<font color="Black">Ñö Ẋ  ĭƑý' [[Image:User_NoXiFy_Signature.jpg|19px|talk]] 19:52, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * (Edit conflict) Your block log shows when you were unbanned. I assume the software messed up.
 * You might want to read what I posted (i.e. the notice) before you posted something that obviously didn't belong on that talk page (again, reasons are on my talk page). --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|18px|]] Brains12 \ talk 19:57, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * (Edit conflict) http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User_talk:Izzy#Important_notice especially the part where it says "nor is it the place to post links pointing to each issue.". All you did was post a link. They look through popular threads and they consider the players' advice and suggestions.
 * You being banned was probably a wiki error, and not caused by Poke. --  Mini Me ''' [[Image:User Mini Me sig.png|19px|talk]] 19:59, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * To be fair, I added that later on in response to several users just posting links to places where it's assumed ArenaNet already read. Nevertheless, the reasons are the same -- again, those are on my talk page. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|18px|]] Brains12 \ talk 20:08, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I think everything was said, next time send me an email please. poke | talk 20:32, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The autoblock basically automatically blocks the last IP you used and then autoblocks any IP you try to edit from for 24 hours, and IPs that are autoblocked also prevent logged-in users from editing from them. So what happened is when you were unblocked, your IP (which had been autoblocked) was not unblocked, probably because poke didn't realize it had been blocked in the first place. Sending him an email or asking an admin to unblock it on IRC would have worked.  &not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( talk ) 21:42, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh I was going to say that exact same thing earlier Wizardboy but then didn't although it was only a guess at the time. -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 22:17, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

How much?
How much would it take to get inactive guild added to GWWT? At least temporarily to get through the mountainous list?-- Wyn 09:36, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Perhaps a bot run would be better? Go through pages in the guild namespace, check for edits and the tag, and if they're not there, add one. If there's a large list, that might be the best way forward. Ale_Jrb  ( talk ) 15:32, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * No that has already been discussed and rejected because there are too many variables at this time due to the changes in the Guild page policy. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 17:00, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * To the readers: At this point, Wyn hadn't noticed the GWWT update. poke | talk 17:05, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, to be fair here, my original post was 8 hrs ago...... --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 17:21, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Intriguing. How large was the list, and where is the discussion? I looked at the guild page, and it doesn't seem hugely problematic to apply the first one automatically, even if the historical guild then has to be maintained manually. Ale_Jrb  ( talk ) 17:31, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Due to changes in the guild page policy you can't just blanket tag the guilds that have not had an edit in 3 months as inactive. They need to be checked for minimum content, for possible language translation, not to mention the need to check for activity on forums, etc. Currently the list to be tagged is over 500, how far over is impossible to tell since that is the limit of dpl lists Guild Wars Wiki:List of inactive guilds.--[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 17:37, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I can't find the minimum content clause, of language translation clause, in the 'Historical content' section of the policy (that covers the tag). Perhaps the policy could be streamlined to help prevent such an unapproachable build up (500!? eeeek!)... maybe, the first tag could be applied as more of a warning rather than saying it's actually inactive (e.g. 'It is believed that this guild is inactive, as the wiki page has not been edited for over 3 months. If you know the guild is active, please remove this tag.') and then another tag applied later? Also, I noticed a discrepancy. The policy requires a guild to have been disbanded to get a historical tag, but the {tl|Inactive guild}} template says it will simply be added if the guild is not edited for a further three months. What happens if the guild is inactive but still exists? :O Does the inactive tag (that states it will be tagged) simply remain there? Hmmm... Ale_Jrb  ( talk ) 17:52, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The minimum content requirements were added with the revisions to the policy that were implemented on 8/8/08. The revisions are also the cause of the mountainous list, as the time frames were changed from 6 months of no edits to 3 months. The language translations need to be done prior to archiving, if for no other reason than it postpones the need for archiving for an additional 3 months. Trust me, this is just the pain involved due to the recent changes and will be alleviated once this initial pile can be gotten through. I am not going to completely explain the guild page policy here, there is plenty of discussion regarding it on the policy talk page, or if you have questions you don't see the answers to, ask them there, or on my talk page :D --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 17:58, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I was actually saying that the minimum content and language clauses are totally unrelated to the inactive guild tag :P. A bad page that is tagged as inactive is just as likely to be spotted and subsequently tagged for cleanup as a non-inactive tagged guild. And the forum activity is something I wouldn't have supported anyway, but it doesn't matter. Just saying it would be much easier for those currently involved in tagging them... *dum dum de dum* :P. I'll get off poke's talk page now :D. Ale_Jrb  ( talk ) 18:08, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Recent GWWT update
lol I was planning after work to update my monobook javascript with the code to add Guild subpages/talk pages today after going through my watchlist, then I saw it's already been done with GWWT. Thanks Poke :) -- Kakarot  21:39, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

/poke
*ding* Cookie? -- (CoRrRan / talk) 22:54, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * *ping* laffs with cat? --[[Image:User People of Antioch sig.png|Talk]] Antioch 04:40, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * *wave* :) poke | talk 06:48, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

image
I hope i did it right now pls tell me if i didnt sry for wasting youre time Lilondra 12:48, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, now the image name is correct :) And don't worry, you don't waste my time just because an image has the wrong naming ^^ poke | talk 13:03, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

dah poke of pokyness
the poke in my signature doesnt refer to you :p its just what i always say to my friends instead of hi lol Lilondra   *poke*  12:41, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I know ^^ Just wanted to poke you :P poke | talk 12:59, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * aw, our poke. he's such a jo... poker. - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 13:06, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Long live the pope poke :) Lilondra  [[Image:Eviscerate.jpg|19x19px]] *poke*  13:21, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

About Image:The watchmen.jpg
I uploaded the image thinking it was of them, then found a similar image for The Bone Spires, so I tagged it with the Delete tag (using GWWT, but it didn't allow me to provide the correct reason and added it twice before I finally added it properly). If you or any other authority figure decides it needs deleting please don't hesitate to do so, as I'm unsure if it is correct or not. &mdash;  <font face="Juice ITC">Cloud Xan  19:33, 7 September 2008 (UTC) (n.b.: sorry about the link format, I don't know how to link to an image without displaying the image itself)
 * Well, I removed the deletion tag, as your reason was it being orphaned, but it is actually used on the Watchmen page, so as long as it used there, I won't delete it because of it being orphaned ;) If you find a better image for that page, feel free to upload it. (for the image link, see the title now on how to link without displaying) poke | talk 19:36, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah okay, I'll try and find a better image, and thanks for showing how to do the image link :) &mdash; [[Image:User Cloud Xan sig.png]] <font face="Juice ITC">Cloud Xan  19:56, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

RCNew/WatchNew
how about a jscript that automatically refreshes rc or watchlist every x minutes? - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> 09:27, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Adding the following code to your monobook.js will refresh recent changes/your watchlist every 5 seconds (the timing is in ms, so just change the 5 to alter the time).

if ((wgPageName == 'Special:Recentchanges') || (wgPageName == 'Special:Watchlist')) { setTimeout('window.location = window.location.href;', 5000); }
 * You could write a complicated script, but there's not really much point. Ale_Jrb  ( talk ) 15:20, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/115 poke | talk 15:42, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The only problem with that addon is that it doesn't disable when you leave the page, which gets to be a problem if you want to spend more than five (or whatever number chosen) seconds on a page. <font color="#DD2200">Lord Belar 15:45, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * wow. knowing the variable and function names i would've even been able to make that myself from C++ o.O - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 15:49, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, you have a .c++ page? :P <font color="#DD2200">Lord Belar 15:50, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * ... - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 15:51, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * While I'm not sure what C++ has to do with it, as it's pretty useless in the average webpage (like the wiki), you don't need to know the variables - you could've just checked the URL. Ale_Jrb  ( talk ) 15:56, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * i'm saying that i could've made that myself because javascript syntax for if-functions is exactly the same as in C++ (afterall js is derived from C++ afaik), but i would've needed to know the variable wgPageName and the function setTimeout with syntax. - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 16:02, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * If you know C++, you could just learn javascript :P - anyone with a smidgen of intelligence can do it (it's like the easiest language... ever). Ale_Jrb  ( talk ) 16:04, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * woo, you just confirmed that my whole class has no smidgen of intelligence :D - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 16:07, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Lol. ^^ Ale_Jrb  ( talk ) 16:25, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Weapon infobox
Hey, there seems to be a problem with the info boxes. Right now, a lot of the items show "Unique Unique Staff" or whatever weapon it is. However, removing the unique from the type drops it from the category. So, should I remove the unique from the type or the "unique = y" or does the template need to be fixed? --JonTheMon 16:08, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I undid an edit from SilentStorm, which made autotype better but totally broke autocat. Not sure how we should have it. :P - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 16:14, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I thought all that had just been dealt with a short time ago... sigh. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 16:20, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It looks like it's working to me... how is autocat broken? They look like they're being categorised fine (your change simply stopped the template automatically appending 'unique' to the name if the 'unique' parameter is specified. Note that it still really needs specifying, for the other dependants to work, which may or may not be a good thing). Ale_Jrb  ( talk ) 16:24, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It was broken, as in if you typed "type=Unique staff" it put out Unique unique staff but categorised. type=Staff showed fine, but didn't categorise=broken (not configured correctly). I reverted it, so I really hope it's working now :P - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 16:29, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Ooooh - you were saying the edit you undid made typing better but categorisation worse. I thought you were saying that's what your undo did. Ooops ^^ Ale_Jrb  ( talk ) 16:31, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh doh. I didn't even realise you could read it that way. :P - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 16:38, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * You probably can't. I expect I was just being dumb :D Ale_Jrb  ( talk ) 16:39, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Bot
Hey, I needed help making a bot for some other wiki. Could you help? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:201.53.63.109 (talk).
 * I would recommend you to look at Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser first. It's easy to use for the most tasks that have to be done. poke | talk 22:50, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I thought you hated AWB, Poke. calor   (talk)  23:07, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but it is really easy to use, especially for those who have no real experience with programming languages.. (also I did my first bot edits with AWB as well) poke | talk 23:19, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * AWB is classic lol. ^^ Ale_Jrb  ( talk ) 14:59, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Very odd question
I'm composing a draft for the format section, and I need to see the code for the skill pages template, the ones we use in the main space articles. I know you are very experienced in coding and what not, and I was wondering if you could find the code for it, not the template.

If you don't want to clutter up your page here, you can post it on my talk or in my sandboc. Thanks a lot! -- NUKLEAR   IIV  20:59, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not really sure what you want, as a formatting guide already exists for skill pages and also lists the infobox there. And for the rest of the parameters, the template page should give all details in the description. poke | talk 22:48, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

something
on your talk page. - Auron 14:36, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Maybe sonthing more? &mdash; Wolf  [[Image:User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png|19px| ]] 15:19, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * No, Auron's comment was enough, thanks ;) poke | talk 15:41, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * something striked? &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 18:15, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

wikibot
what programming language would you suggest? - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> 17:07, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * for what? poke | talk 18:30, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * For a wikibot, I'd imagine. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|18px|]] Brains12 \ talk 18:49, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I got that far due to the section header; what I want to know are more specific things, Y0 wants to do ;) poke | talk 19:06, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Wikibotting? *shrug* --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|18px|]] Brains12 \ talk 19:06, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * /msg WikiServ #User_talk:Poke kb Brains12 <_< poke | talk 19:07, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * (Edit conflict) what? i'm not sure what to use it for yet, but i'd just like to know what language to learn anyway, and someone who already has experience will be best to tell me ^^ - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.png|18px]] 19:10, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * *sigh* ok - do you already know any programming language? poke | talk 19:14, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * C++, C#, Turbo Pascal, but i wouldn't know how to make a bot out of those. i'm not very experienced, but it's enough to make stuff like calculators, simple games etc. (currently working on a pc version for Thud) - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.png|18px]] 19:16, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * C# is fine; take a look at the System.Net namespace on how you can build up connections etc., especially the HttpWebRequest class should be the one you need. You basically simply have to imitate a user with his browser. poke | talk 20:40, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * ah, nice. i'll look that up, thanks :) - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.png|18px]] 20:42, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Just ask if you need any help; I'm not that experienced with C# yet but I recently started working more with it, so I might be able to help :P - Also the bad thing about using C# for a wikibot is that you actually need to compile the code each time you want to change what the bot does, so when you have everything working, I suggest you create a separate framework (as a class or maybe even as an external dll!) that automatically does the required things like building up a connection and actually communicates with the wiki, so that you only need to include that and can work with the bot with short commands (for example  or something like that). That will save up a lot work :) poke | talk 20:48, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * ...come to think of it, i might end up reprogramming awb o.O - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.png|18px]] 20:49, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I would recommend more a basic command line application which you can easily change instead of a complex program that actually uses a browser which has to load the full html files and that requires some kind of user interface that allows you to add all possibilites of actions you can do on a wiki... poke | talk 20:53, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) i'll see what it becomes ^^ maybe i even leave it as a console applications. - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> 21:05, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

what do you think?
Is there any way to add a new wiki background?i like wikia gamings background--  WoB   08:07, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * fyi, I don't like people putting important information, that would help to understand the question, in comments [ either]. Also I have no idea what you actually mean and I don't get the reference to the Playstation Portable either; also there is no link on your talk page. poke | talk 11:55, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I think he's talking about different skins for the wiki like wikia has available. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 12:10, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * yeh that's exactly what I'm trying to talk about. The link is of a current wiki using that skin btw. Also I'm not talking about the image for that background but just a black background.--   WoB  [[Image:User Wings of Blood sig icon.png|18px]] 19:41, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Feel free to change your skin to whatever is available and change the according user-css file. For example for monobook (default skin) this would be monobook.css poke | talk 20:10, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

copyvio
is this a copyvio? Image:User Fox007 Spore Creation.gif <font color="Orange">Fox007  17:25, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * the name sounds like it'S from anothe rpg. if it is, copyvio most likely. - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.png|18px]] 17:26, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It's made by me with Spore <font color="Orange">Fox007  [[Image:User Fox007 sig.png|User:Fox007]] 17:30, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure but due to the fact that the creature is actually created using the Spore creator and its graphics, I don't think you are the correct copyright holder for it :/ poke | talk 18:31, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * aw :( <font color="Orange">Fox007  [[Image:User Fox007 sig.png|User:Fox007]] 19:16, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

sandbox 3
wow, i think i know what i'll be using to troll in the future :P - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> 15:11, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh, that page is related to this section ;) poke | talk 16:30, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * lol xD it would be fun though to just put  on someone's page to kick them. - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.png|18px]] 17:31, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Pray vandals don't get their hands on it. &mdash; Wolf  [[Image:User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png|19px| ]] 17:34, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Quick DPL question
Hey, on the List of Nightfall skill trainers down at Kenohir, his location is red linked. I think it's because he has 2 locations on his page (rescue and skill trainer). You know how to fix that? --JonTheMon 12:40, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
 * fixed :) poke | talk 13:32, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes....
The duplicate of your userpage is very usefull ^^ For schizofrenic people XD <font color="Black">| <font color="DarkOrange">Cyan <font color="Black">Light <font color="DarkOrange"> Boooh!!! | 19:34, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
 * duplicate? It is included on my main page so it doesn't ping all those people that have my page visited when I change something :) poke | talk 19:40, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok ^^ that is a good thing :) <font color="Black">| <font color="DarkOrange">Cyan <font color="Black">Light [[Image:User Cyan Light SB.jpg|19px]]<font color="DarkOrange"> Boooh!!! | 19:40, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
 * To quote the section title: Yes, it is :D poke | talk 19:48, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Lolz, for you ^^ I must stop with that ^^ <font color="Black">| <font color="DarkOrange">Cyan <font color="Black">Light [[Image:User Cyan Light SB.jpg|19px]]<font color="DarkOrange"> Boooh!!! |  19:49, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

*poke*
yay i poked a poke &mdash; Seru    Talk 01:35, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Wat dat eigentlich is habbich jefracht (herrlich wenn di Hälfte nix versteht) Noctarch 01:44, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * nur die hälfte? sin so viele deutsch hier? - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.png|18px]] 15:13, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Die Hälfte derer, die etwas mit uns zu tun haben =P Noctarch 21:04, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, yeah, I agree. Hm. Yes. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|18px|]] Brains12 \ talk 21:12, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I can't say something without it morphing into another section . . . ugg &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 21:18, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Me thinks, Brains12 has not enough brains to understand us *chuckles*. But it's THAT easy. Take some dutch, some latin and your own language and you might grasp the meaning. Noctarch 21:34, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

GTTF
I hope poke likes to be poked.. *pokes with a stick*. Btw, Poke. . . something you might want to take a look at, I was looking through certain pages and since I'm blood and I like to attempt to make things better it just goes with me. I have other suggestions as well not just regarding this one. I hope you take a quick honest look at it =D --  W  o  B   01:46, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * No idea what the "I" is for, but ArenaNet:Localization bugs. GTTF isn't active any more. poke | talk 06:54, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * International? Noctarch 08:53, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that. Just wondering though; do they still translate guild pages? --  W  o  B  [[Image:User Wings of Blood sig icon.png|19px]] 19:43, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * "they" is who? poke | talk 19:54, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * GTTF, if not I could just make a unified project without worrying about the in-active GGTF project. --  W  o  B  [[Image:User Wings of Blood sig icon.png|19px]] 20:08, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * That is what actually prompted me to make a purposal in the first place, just for guild pages. --  W  o  B  [[Image:User Wings of Blood sig icon.png|19px]] 20:09, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * The GTTF was never thought for working on wiki content. It was a project made to improve the game. Also there is no need to have a project for guild translations, it is not something that has to be done, more something that guild page creaters have to think of if they want to keep the pages on the wiki. If you want to help translating guild pages, use the translation needed category. But there is no need for a project as there is no need for a project to manage filling out stubs or something like that. poke | talk 20:21, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Kk that made everything clearer, I'll mark the purposal for deletion then, what do you think oof my GW1 suggestion layout purposals? --  W  o  B  [[Image:User Wings of Blood sig icon.png|19px]] 20:40, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

you're good at this stuff....
I just made a layout for myself, I need to figure out how to change the "bloded" text for the recently edited. . . I peiced the layout from current ones all over wikia. please help me!. Anyway you might want to check it out, its cool. --  W  o  B   06:06, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * What bolded text for the recently edited do you mean? poke | talk 06:56, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * He's talking about his watched items in Recent changes due to this --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 06:58, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I saw his skin, but there is a lot "bolded" text in it and a lot of text for "recently edited" too :P The bold is hardcoded into the code, so you cannot change it that easily, but feel free to play around with the 'mw-watched'-class. For example:
 * poke | talk 07:03, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I applied it to the theme and it looks 10x better =D --  W <font color="#660000">o  B  [[Image:User Wings of Blood sig icon.png|19px]] 04:52, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Revision deletion request
For plus asociated edits by the same user, since personal information is compromised and due to the language barrier may be difficult to explain it to him :P.--Fighterdoken 02:49, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Please see Guild Wars Wiki:Reporting wiki bugs; full restore did work. poke | talk 07:14, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Moved the above from Admin notice board. As long as the info is still accessable, it should not be linked from a high traffic page. --Xeeron 09:10, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * An email to Emily would have been better than a post on the bugs page then. >.> --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|18px|]] Brains12 \ talk 14:19, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Archive Box
You seem to know the most about wiki-coding, so maybe you can help me out. Do you know how to center an archive box within a talk page header? I'm trying to put mine centered on my talk page, but none of the trial-and-error coding seems to be working. Any ideas? --  Wandering   Traveler  01:30, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I would think you could stick the archive box inside a centered div tag, although I don't know if that's the most effective way to go about it. --[[image:User_Jioruji_Derako_logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  06:15, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Like this? I changed the archive box to center itself and put it into your table-template. poke | talk 12:24, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, thats perfect! Though....just for the sake of coding knowledge, what did you do to it? --[[Image:User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png|19px]]  Wandering   Traveler  15:02, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * [ this] and [ that] :P poke | talk 15:45, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * -___- I could have figured that out....bleh. Thanks for fixing that though :) --[[Image:User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png|19px]]  Wandering   Traveler  16:05, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * :D You're welcome ^^ poke | talk 17:44, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Eh, I hate bothering you again Poke, but....perhaps you can explain this. Is there a reason why some of the images in my archive box have a white "background" attached to them, wheras other images meld with the color scheme of the box? I'm hoping its not my web browser thats doing this, because its weirding out the archives. I feel n00bish for asking this, but....meh. I'm horrendus at wiki-coding xD --  Wandering   Traveler  23:57, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Some of those images have a transparent background, so the background of the box shines through - however some, and jpg images cannot have transparency in them, are not, so they appear as they are. poke | talk 00:33, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, that makes sense then. Thank you! :D --[[Image:User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png|19px]]  Wandering   Traveler  01:44, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Elections
I bet you after the B-Crat elections, there may be a Sysop boom again. Just you wait. xD -- Antioch 19:10, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Is that like a baby boom?... but with less sex? ... -- Lemming [[Image:User Lemming64 sigicon.png]] 20:42, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
 * ROFL! --[[Image:User PoA Sig.png|Talk]] Antioch 20:44, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Clearly you've never been to the right RFA parties, Lemming. - Tanetris 20:48, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Hahah. --[[Image:User PoA Sig.png|Talk]] Antioch 20:53, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Sysops: Born from immaculate conception? Backsword 05:39, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Help?
I'm trying something out, but I can't figure out how to make it work. It's hard for me to explain.... User:Wynthyst/Sandbox/Guild infobox2 what I'm trying to do is make the parts on the top where the variables show up span 2 columns.... -- Wyn 13:22, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * What top two variables? &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 13:44, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh I see, you want the stuff like Guild Hall and IRC channels in two even columns, rather than using the same structue as below with the answer spanning two columns. Is that right? If so I'll have a little play &mdash; [[Image:User Cloud Xan sig.png]] <font face="Juice ITC">Cloud Xan  15:29, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Set the colspan for the header cells to 4 and remove each second |- to put it in a two/four-column table. Then you just need to move things around if you want to sort them. Or, for optional cells, it would be better to make a two-column table and put another two tables into the cells, so that you have the left side in one table in the left cell, and the right side in one table in the right cell. poke | talk 16:12, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * You are making my head asplode..... --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 16:23, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Im confused as to what you want done wyn. &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 21:17, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I think I get what Poke is getting you to do Wyn; instead of 3 rows in the table, have four, and span the headers over all four rather than all three. Then remove (or add I suppose would be possible) a "|-" to make it into the four/two columned table. From there poke stuff into the right position. The other option is to separate different parts of the table into different tables, then collect them in the main one.
 * Is that a better description, and what you meant poke? &mdash; [[Image:User Cloud Xan sig.png]] <font face="Juice ITC">Cloud Xan  08:41, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I just added hard spaces in the bottom sections to separate the two pieces of information, may not be as pretty, but it stopped my head from asploding :P --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 07:52, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

unsigned template
It seems rather foolish and more then likely useless, but would it be useful in any way to link unsigned IP's to Contributions instead of their "Userpage"? to exemplify using my own IP, instead of " --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:68.35.88.45 (talk)., it would be (minus template)  --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.35.88.45 (talk)  --  Wandering   Traveler  00:05, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * The problem is that there are also unsigned comments from registered people and that makes it difficult to have one template for both situations. But if you can come up with a solution, just say so :) poke | talk 00:09, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * ? Obviously you'd need to put something in the second parameter, but it'd be useful for people who want to point IPs' unsigned comments to their contribution page. To anyone else, it wouldn't make any difference (apart for a little more code in the edit window). -- [[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|18px|]] Brains12 \ talk 00:12, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Considering how I have epic fail knowledge in HTML and general wiki coding, I'm probably out of my leauge on that. My only suggestion would be to make 2 templates, but even that would be a bit insane. I'll see if I can scrounge up a solution though. --[[Image:User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png|19px]]  Wandering   Traveler  00:32, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * i think brains' would work... just run a subst: bot before changing :P - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.png|18px]] 11:52, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I think, because of the substing, a second template is better; if you look for example at the substed code from moved, you see the #if expression still there iirc. And as the template will only be substed, it wouldn't be a problem.. poke | talk 16:25, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Huh....could I take a crack at making my own template for use on IP unsigned comments? I don't know if it'd be more of a hinderance or not, but it'd give me something to do.... --[[Image:User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png|19px]]  Wandering   Traveler  16:38, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Maybe something like unsigned ip? Feel free to create it. poke | talk 16:40, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Awesomeness. I'll see if I can come up with anything. --[[Image:User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png|19px]]  Wandering   Traveler  16:41, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, I managed to come up with this. How does it look? --[[Image:User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png|19px]]  Wandering   Traveler  16:53, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * looks ok, but why the rename? poke | talk 17:03, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Paranoia. I've always thought that IP should stay capitalized. If it needs to be moved back, feel free to. Thats just me being weird. >_< --  Wandering   Traveler  17:04, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Then why not using unsigned IP? :P why not using a space? :P (just asking btw ^^) poke | talk 17:07, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Noooooooooooooo... it's in the 187 commandments of wiki-ing. Number 65: thou shalt not create a template with capitals in. Plz? With regards to the template, I think two templates are create, and I prefer poke's naming. Ale_Jrb  ( talk ) 18:10, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Somehow I just saw this coming..... >___<. Alright, I'll move it back to the original name. --[[Image:User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png|19px]]  Wandering   Traveler  19:15, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * hah :D poke | talk 19:16, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Somehow I can't move over the redirect....can you delete the redirect page so I can move it back? --[[Image:User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png|19px]]  Wandering   Traveler  19:20, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * done. poke | talk 19:25, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Awesomeness. ^.^. --[[Image:User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png|19px]]  Wandering   Traveler  19:27, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Protection notices
The MediaWiki pages you edited only come up for those who actually have that edit permission; for example, look at the difference between without permission and with permission (assuming you're not logged in the former :P). I think there are MediaWiki pages for warnings to the people with permission, and pages for notices to those without permission. -- Brains12 \ talk 19:53, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, ok - then I took exactly the wrong ones - will fix it in a second moment :D poke | talk 20:33, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Parser functions and templates
Hey Poke, got two questions for you regarding parser functions and templates. Firstly if I was to create a template; for example located at User:Kakarot/Randomosity; with the code  placed on it. If I then placed it on both my main userpage and on my talk page using the code  would it show the text "Welcome to my page" on my userpage and "..." on any other page it is used on?

Secondly in the above example if I wanted to change it so that it would show the message on both my userpage and my talk page but on any other page it would show the "..." text how would I achieve this? I was thinking it might be something like  but am unsure if that is the correct way of doing this or if it is even possible with the ifeq function. -- Kakarot  20:38, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * first one: yes. second one:  will work i think, as for the other one i'd just try. metawiki help doesn't mention operators such as OR/AND. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.png|18px]] 20:47, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I was pretty sure I was right about the first question. As to your second answer I'd kinda prefer not to use two ifeq's in that way because the actual template I am planning on using this on uses a lot more code for the "code if equal" section than my example did. I actually got the AND/OR operators from the expr function and was hoping they would also work on other functions. -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 20:55, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * What about ? That should cover it for both User:Kakarot and User Talk:Kakarot... --Fighterdoken 20:58, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * There is just one problem with that code, for the template this is going to be used on I want it to show the first message on two specific pages in my userspace but not on another. For the above example I would want it to show the Welcome to my page on both my main userpage and my talk page but for another page in my userspace; eg:"User:Kakarot/Totally Random Page"; I would want it to show the ... text. While the example isn't exactly what my new template is going to be like, it is a simplified version. -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 21:08, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Then i guess  if you don't want to use Ifeq?--Fighterdoken 21:19, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks that works fine. I wasn't entirely set on using an ifeq, I just mentioned it in my question as that was what I had been previously using before I realized there was going to be more than one page I needed the "code if equal" to appear on. -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 21:24, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * huh, I missed such a long discussion on my talk page! xD Yes, in the case where you check something on equality with multiple different values, #switch is probably the best parser function available. poke | talk 22:46, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

New DPL lists
Can you make DPL lists that would split Wanted Pages into categories like you did for the Image projects? -- Wyn 11:30, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * No, that's not possible. Special pages can not be targetted by DPL. The image-needed ones makes use of the image-needed categories, but for wanted pages that doesn't work. poke | talk 14:43, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * K.. I was afraid you were going to say that :P --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 20:14, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Yet more template help XD
Hey Poke, I was wondering if you could have a look at the code on this revision and fix anything that I've done wrong. I was trying to add a second optional parameter for the date in the same way as the unsigned2 template has, I'm asking you since you were the one that added; or rather fixed; a similar thing to my image name template. From what I've seen I copied the code over and since it works on my template it should work on the unsigned ip template as well but it doesn't. -- Kakarot  14:26, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look at it later. poke | talk 07:45, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
 * *cough* :P -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 17:47, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh! :P I'll look at it now! :D poke | talk 17:55, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * done! unsigned ip and unsigned updated :) poke | talk 18:29, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * meh, inclusion doesn't work (I remember something like this happened before :/), will try to fix or run a bot to subst them all xD poke | talk 18:30, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * (Edit conflict) Yay for Poke =D -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 18:32, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I had exactly the same problem with ec/ecs... So what should we do? Force people to subst it, or use multiple templates? poke | talk 19:53, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry this is late, was busy with Guild Wars XD but anyway I'd say it would be better if people subst'ed it as if the template gets vandalized it would create a lot less of an increase to the job queue. Also subst'ing it means that if the template gets changed/updated it won't affect other older versions of the template. -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 03:57, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah of course it should be substed - but can we actually force people to subst it? I mean force like, it doesn't work when including it? poke | talk 07:52, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Why was img deleted?
Image:User AOD Klug brutalbitterbeer.jpg It was personal picture from my camera.AOD Klug 18:28, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Your image was deleted because it was a copyviolation; the name "Rogue Brutal Bitter" and its logo/design is copyrighted by the Rogue Brewery, and not available under the GFD License. It doesn't matter who takes the picture then, if the showed content itself is copyrighted. This is why it was deleted. poke | talk 19:28, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Delete template revisited
It seems that the problem I mentioned and you appeared to have fixed is occurring again. Not sure if there is something else causing it this time since after the change you made before it seemed fine. See this page as an example. -- Kakarot  20:13, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Just did a null save on the page and it fixed itself... Maybe has something to do with the tag being added by GWWT?--Fighterdoken 20:22, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Hard to say now where the page is deleted and the null edit fixed it before :P However GWWT simulates a normal edit by a user, so that shouldn't be an issue. Sounds more like a caching problem (due to the null edit), but I'm not able to give a definite answer. poke | talk 21:31, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Finally found another one that is doing it which shouldn't be deleted for a while and hopefully no one does a null edit before you can see it, Image:User BlackBlood 1.png.jpg -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 17:47, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Good timing, just got online ;) But yeah, this is indeed weird. One possibility I could think of is that the full url is cached with the tagging user's settings; so in this case we should ask PoA to confirm that. If that is the case, I'll look for a better way to get the full url, depending on the viewing user.. poke | talk 17:55, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Image Deletion Confusion
Just wondering what you mean specifically by "description". I'm assuming it's the "summary" box, but I'd rather be completely sure first. .:Tyla:. 00:05, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * What do you mean? Do you mean the reason why Image:Ninja.gif was deleted? In that case please see our image use policy on user page images (and maybe even the images-section of GWW:SIGN) to see what naming we require for user images. For example in your case you could name your image Image:User Tyla Ninja.gif. poke | talk 00:54, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Yo Poke.. Signature Question..
I'd just like to know if I HAVE to use "Smashman2004" in my Signature. I've noticed a few people using shorter versions of their names in the Signature. I'd prefer to use Smashman. If you could get back to me on that one, I'd be much obliged.. Ty Smashman2004 ∙ talk 02:39, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Register User:Smashman. Redirect it to User:Smashman2004. Then use Smashman in your sig if you'd like. calor   (talk)  02:51, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * So, just type REDIRECT#User:Smashman2004 into User:Smashman? Or, register a whole new account then do that? &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Smashman2004 (talk &bull; contribs) at 01:54, November 8, 2008 (UTC).
 * You'd have to register under that name then redirect it. -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 03:30, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah. As I thought. Doing now. ty. Sorry for unsigning... Its 3:30 am.. Not a good time for being awake... -- [[Image:User Smashman2004 Sig.png|19px]]Smashman2004 ∙ talk 03:33, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh 03:30, I know all about that ... not that long ago I was getting up at that time for work, did it for just over four years too. -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 03:36, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * That's plain madness.. xD So I've done the Redirect now... User:Smashman. Do I know use this account and change the Sig so that it links to there and then to User:Smashman2004 via the redirect?
 * Yeah you now use your normal account (Smashman2004) and change the signature to Smashman. As far as I know it's fine to link to Smashman2004 rather than to the redirect, eg: [[Image:User Smashman2004 Sig.png|19px]]Smashman ∙ talk. -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 03:47, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok. But the way I got it aint illegal? I don't want no attorneys around here plz. =P -- [[Image:User Smashman2004 Sig.png|19px]] Smashman ∙ talk 03:49, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * There is no requirement to register a shortened name to use it in your signature, as long as the signature is linked to the correct user page, and is not duplicating another user's name. I wish people would stop telling people they have to do that. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 03:57, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * You may not have to but it does reduce any chance of someone else registering that name for regular use or not so good purposes. -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 03:59, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I notice you did Wyn... I don't want someone to register Smashman.. Although I am the only one stupid enough to think up such a name. So I doubt anyone would.. Just safe =) -- [[Image:User Smashman2004 Sig.png|19px]] Smashman ∙ talk 04:02, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I did it because it's what everyone calls me, and I've too often been the target of vandals/trolls. I'm just saying that there is no requirement in GWW:SIGN that you have to do that. As long as it 'resembles' your username, is linked to your userpage, and is not an attempt to impersonate another user, it is fine. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 04:08, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Well thats k. It says Smashman in it. It works does it not? Now for colour! Sorry, I be british, gotta spell it right =D -- Smashman ∙ talk 04:10, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * "Its 3:30 am.. Not a good time for being awake..." - that's why I didn't answer! :D So much talk in one night on my talk page... But yeah, your current signature would be fine. poke | talk 13:51, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Excellent. Thanks. Just another quick question. How can I change the tooltip for a link? I know how to do it for Images... Just not links. ty. -- smashman [[Image:User Smashman2004 Sig.png|19px]]  talk   14:07, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The tooltip is automatically the target page and cannot be changed. poke | talk 14:18, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Cannot? Damn.. How do you like my page! =D xD =P -- smashman [[Image:User Smashman2004 Sig.png|19px]]  talk   14:58, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Looks fine :) poke | talk 16:55, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * ty. Worked long into the early hours on that... =P -- smashman [[Image:User Smashman2004 Sig.png|19px]]  talk   16:59, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

DPL help
Hiya Poke! Recently blood asked me for help with this page and this page. He was trying to figure out why the DPL was not showing up on User:Wings of Blood/sandbox/EXAMPLE. I honestly do not know the first thing about DPL, so I was wondering if you could help Blood & I out? :) Thanks!  -- Shadowphoenix   17:04, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Poke think you can help me with this DPL problem?

Thiswhenever you make a new page the title of the page becomes all funky and the suggestions won't show up with the test page. I was told to head over to you since you're the most experienced person. Just in case you didn't know it's a purposal to a new layout for Guild Wars Suggestion Page -- W <font color="#660000">o  B  17:11, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * First of all, for createboxes use underscores instead of spaces for page names and be sure that your preload templates exist. For the DPL part, I cannot really see any articles the DPL should actually query. You are looking for a category "EXAMPLE" but that is nowhere used. poke | talk 19:33, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I have another question but I'll ask later if I never figure it out. =D -- W <font color="#660000">o  B [[Image:User Wings of Blood sig icon.png|19px]] 03:19, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Could this work?
Hey Poke, I have yet another question to as you. Is it possible to make a wiki bot with deletion privileges to cover over Guild Wars 2 Suggestions? Guild Wars 1 suggestions is in serious need of a redo however everyone is contemplating over "Should we use the same layout as Guild Wars 2 Suggestions with subpages and all?" and common response is "Too many subpages to take care of". I was thinking with 1-2 wiki bots the Suggestion Pages will be taken care of and sysops will have less to worry about. Is it possible or am I just dreaming? -- W <font color="#660000">o  B  17:42, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Theoretically it is possible - of course - but actually I don't see a need for it (plus: two bots for one task would be overkill o.O). If I remember the times when we for example removed the weapon gallery from weapon pages and tagged all images for deletion (using a bot), we deleted over 1000 images within one day, by hand, with 4 or 5 sysops (who were only active because the timespan the image deletions got pending was really big). So what I want to say that the deletion mass is not a problem for sysops at all. poke | talk 22:53, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * haha, ok, thanks poke. -- W <font color="#660000">o  B [[Image:User Wings of Blood sig icon.png|19px]] 23:46, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Is there a way...
Is there a way to make the guild infobox use a subst:PAGENAME for the cape image rather than just PAGENAME? So when we are archiving inactive guilds we don't have to create the capeimage variable? -- Wyn 19:18, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * No, that is not possible on templates. poke | talk 19:50, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * K, figured it was worth asking :D thanks again for letting me poke your brain :D --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 19:55, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * :D poke | talk 19:56, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

And yet another is it possible....
Does this version of Mediawiki (or any that this site uses, for that matter), allow a User Creation Log, similar to Wikipedias? I wonder if that might be useful to catch sockpuppeteers and mass vandal users before they do any damage....granted, other uses could be put to good form as well, but I wonder if its even possible. --  Wandering   Traveler  03:34, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * We could get this, or wait for the wiki upgrade. <font color="limegreen" size="2px">Dominator <font color="mediumblue" size="1px">Matrix  03:42, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Other uses will probably include spamming welcome templates, huh? ;) But yes, you need an extension for that. poke | talk 06:38, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Major elocing incoming. - Auron 06:42, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Just restrict access to the admins or something along those lines. <font color="#DD2200">Lord Belar 10:46, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, we don't disallow sockpuppets so we won't need to identify those early and for mass vandals: Most of them don't register, and if they do, they start to vandalize immediately - also we don't have that many vandals that it would be helpful. poke | talk 13:16, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Uni, wikis
Probably to stop people from copying wiki articles for essays and stuff? -- Brains12 \ talk 20:45, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The no-copy/paste/rightclick is everywhere (it is just a modded Opera with everything disabled), but the font is just hurting in the eyes :( poke | talk 20:47, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * "Strangely the same issue happened on other MediaWikis as well, but not on any other site"? And touche, your uni must suck. My college is similar, there's no right click (on the desktop, Windows Explorer, Internet Explorer, and I assume other things too although most programs have it enabled) and we're forced to use IE6 - if you search Firefox on Google (or even Wikipedia), the browser just closes :/. -- [[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|18px|]] Brains12 \ talk 20:53, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * lol :P Well, we have unix (SunOS <_<) "workstations", so there IE is not possible :P And I meant the font issue with "but not on any other site". poke | talk 20:59, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Brains: Try another browser (Opera, chrome) instead of ff. Or bring your own on a usb drive. Poke: Have you tried installing other browsers? <font color="#DD2200">Lord Belar 23:05, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, it is a lovely terminal.. You log in with your account and Opera starts - if you close Opera, you get kicked out (it doesn't even matter when you have a PDF file in that PDF viewer open <_< everything is lost). And apart from that there are no other programs available, so I doubt you will be able to install anything there.
 * But I won't need to use that terminals again that soon; if I need to use uni computers normally I get the full debian computers where I have full access, and otherwise I have my notebook back ;) It was just some kind of funny when I saw that ugly-wiki :P poke | talk 23:31, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * (Edit conflict) I think I tried that, but it wouldn't work (can't remember why exactly, but there's a reason I'm not using them and that's probably because it didn't work). I haven't tried it on a USB drive, although the idea did occur to me. I'm just too lazy I guess. -- [[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|18px|]] Brains12 \ talk 23:32, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * i put firefox on my USB, but when i try it at school it closes as soon as it's oppened QQ (they do the same with portableapps) <B><font color="#4F94CD">~PheNaxKian [[Image:User_PheNaxKian_sig.jpg|19px]] <font color="#9400D3">Talk </B> 14:57, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * If you have access to task manager, close the process responsible. If you don't have access to it, get it. Keyloggers work wonders. <font color="#DD2200">Lord Belar 23:21, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

sigh...
I need your help poke! -- Wyn 08:02, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Possible suggestion for show preview button
Hey Poke what do you think of adding the code:  to the Common.css to make the show preview a bit more noticeable =P -- Kakarot   21:57, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Nasty. Backsword 22:00, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
 * nah.. that looks bad, so not-GWW-like. And I doubt that would change anything.. Just block the users that don't react when you ask them to use show preview :P poke | talk 22:05, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Present for you
Welcome to the club :D  &not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( talk ) 18:19, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh, thanks :P poke | talk 19:27, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd make a userbox with BMP Gwen and "This user hates orphans", but that wouldn't be funny. Vili [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 20:52, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I like the orphans. Look at the userbox on my page. I'm sure Poke is humane when dealing with them. I just give them a sign to hold up with "Poke" on it. --[[Image:User PoA Sig.png|Talk]] Antioch 00:36, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

BCat
I nominated you for BC. --<font color="Black">D AV  A'  06:58, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your nomination, but my answer is still the same as always :) poke | talk 08:20, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I am wondering why. Mini Me  [[Image:User Mini Me sig.png|19px|talk]] 10:55, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
 * He's far too busy already. (Although based on my experience, joining the administration means you work really hard for a few months and then go inactive...so it could be a clever exit strategy!) Vili [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 11:07, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
 * It's not that bcratship requires more time than being an admin or something like that. But personally I just don't want to be a bcrat; it doesn't fit my personal style and it is more a job where you have to talk too much :P poke | talk 13:10, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I see. Mini Me  [[Image:User Mini Me sig.png|19px|talk]] 13:15, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

category
Sorry, I have no idea where to post this, so please move.

Would it be an idea to make a new category for items with ongoing drop research? I personally believe this would be a good idea, because as it is now there is no way of finding out which items still need researching without clicking on all of them and checking out every page. Mini Me  13:28, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, sure, that would be a good idea. poke | talk 16:21, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Cool, I have no idea how to do that though.
 * Btw wasn't posting here to get just your opinion, but you're one of the more wikicode-savvy people around so yeah. Mini Me  [[Image:User Mini Me sig.png|19px|talk]] 16:24, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Just go to the pages you want to categorize and add a link to the category there (for example ) and it will be categorized automatically. Then you can click the redlink to create the category. Then all you need to do is add more pages to the category. poke | talk 16:26, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I will work on this tonight :) Mini Me  [[Image:User Mini Me sig.png|19px|talk]] 16:44, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

solve this
ping corresponds to pong. pike corresponds to X. ;P - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> 14:52, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * !wut ? poke | talk 16:21, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * that's the correct answer! - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.png|18px]] 16:27, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * o.O poke | talk 16:29, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * you said it. poke. what's your name, mister? - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.png|18px]] 16:30, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * You make my head hurt o.O What's up with you? poke | talk 16:38, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * rofl, i'm just ill. makes me do strange stuff sometimes. the point is, pike corresponds to poke, so your sig told the answer. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.png|18px]] 16:47, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * "pike corresponds to poke" <- oh really? o.O poke | talk 16:51, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Plong corresponds to X. Vili [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 17:02, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * if ping corresponds to pong, yes. i -> o, therefore plong -> brains :P - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.png|18px]] 17:07, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * -- [[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|18px|]] Brains12 \ talk 17:25, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * amazing, i never thought of it before. --<font color="Black">Cursed Angel [[Image:User Cursed Angel Signature.jpg|19px|y so srs?]] 15:24, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
 * meh o.O poke | talk 15:24, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Hm
Poke is ba

( &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Brains12 (talk &bull; contribs) at 16:57, 13 December 2008 (UTC). )
 * Baa I say. - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 16:58, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Pff! :P poke | talk 17:09, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
 * ... Vili [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 06:10, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Single revision deletion of articles possible?
Hey Poke, I was wondering if there was any way possible with wiki software for us to delete either a single revision or a select number of revisions of an article, maybe in a similar way to how we undelete revisions just in the opposite way? This question came about due to a recent need to delete one single revision from the Help:Ask an account question article when there were over 1400 revisions total. I know it's possible with images so was just wondering if there was some option or extension or even an upcoming feature in the latest version that would allow us to do this with actual articles? -- Kakarot  04:40, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Gordon already did it, the solution is to delete everything and then undelete all except the revisions you want to hide. poke | talk 08:09, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * There are such features. One is the RevisionDelete tool, and the other is the Oversight extention. Because they are more powerful than a standard delete, they aren't usually given out to anyone but the most trusted (well, that's a tl;dr explanation, read up yourself). Still, it's extremely convenient when you have to restore 1000+ revisions as Gordon did, so perhaps it could be seen around here someday...I'll certainly miss having the former power, should I ever make it to bcrat/sysop. >.> Vili [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 10:36, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I can undelete all except one revision in ~5 seconds.. :P poke | talk 14:56, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * But can you delete the edit summary, content, and/or username separately? :) Vili [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 16:46, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Notice anything missing?
Special:Upload &larr; -- Brains12 \ talk 00:22, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, your autopatrol doesn't work for diffs anymore, but it does for new pages (where the link is on the bottom right corner) (maybe because they put a class around the patrol link?).
 * Also also, remember in 1.12 where, if you rolled something back, it would go to a confirmation page saying "blah blah was rolled back"; then if you went to your watchlist without viewing the rolled-back page again, it wouldn't be marked as watched? Well, it marks your rollbacks as watched now, so I don't need your workaround anymore :) (the confirmation page is quite useful as it shows the diff).
 * Also also also, see gw2:Image:Pling Recentchanges.JPG (the reason it's on gw2w is because we, by which I mean Tane, were testing your recentchanges stuff on common.css there). The code to emulate 1.12 makes the dropdown list freaky in FF (FF3 at least, haven't checked previous versions). Tane says it's fine in Opera, and I think Vili uses IE and says it's fine. -- [[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|18px|]] Brains12 \ talk 00:34, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Pling speaks the truth. For once, IE wins over FireFox. :D Vili [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 00:41, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reports, I'll take some looks. poke | talk 08:01, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok. Special:Upload and automaticPatrol are fixed. The rollback confirmation in 1.12 was the same it is now, just that the new one has a diff added. That's why you asked me to make it redirect back to the page again. I, in general, know what page I revert and why, so I don't need the diff and still prefer a redirect back to the page (also most times I look at the diff before reverting). But you can do what you want after all ;)
 * So what exactly were you trying on GW2W? I said that I don't want to emulate the look with css, that I want to change the monobook style for that. Also I made a fix for the behaviour, see this [ diff]. poke | talk 08:38, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, and on a side note, Firefox' interpretation of the code was correct, so no: IE fails again. poke | talk 08:39, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * The reason I asked you for the redirect was because the edit wouldn't be marked as watched if you closed the window on the confirmation page (as I often do); trust me, I know :P. I check the diff before I rollback as well, but double confirmation is always nice.
 * We wanted to change the common.css so it looks like 1.12 for everyone (so we tested it on AbandonedWiki). I'm sure you could get the monobook style changed, but that would take a while and this workaround would just be a temporary thing in the meantime; it can always be removed later on. -- [[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|18px|]] Brains12 \ talk 13:47, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

DPL
createdby parameter is giving me issues. Is it how I use it, or something else? Backsword 20:04, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, never used that parameter.. Is it available in the version we have? Or where are you trying to use it? poke | talk 20:26, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Should be, has been around for a while, IIRC. Don't have the code anymore, was only in poreview and I didn't save due to the weird error I got. Backsword 20:38, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Round 2
User:Wynthyst/Sandbox/Guild_pages_to_be_moved -- Wyn 23:47, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Did Wikichu loose its Bot Flag? At least I got LOTS of Mails from the Wiki telling me about your Bot moving those Pages :S -- Silent Storm  [[Image: User SilentStorm MySig.png|19px]] 05:47, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Bot edits still show on watchlists.  &not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( talk ) 05:51, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * It also may be due to the upgrade.. not sure if that changed the email protocols, but no, wikichu still has it's bot status. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 06:18, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * The new thing is that moves appear on the watchlist, but that bot edits appear there is a personal setting - you can disable it, if you like. poke | talk 08:01, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah that must be it. Thanks for the Info :) -- Silent Storm  [[Image: User SilentStorm MySig.png|19px]] 16:45, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

It's Snowing!
-- Wyn 23:08, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I you - huh? :D poke | talk 23:09, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh dear god, not another one >< -- [[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|18px|]] Brains12 \ talk 23:09, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * The mouseover text is still the same, though. <font color="#DD2200">Lord Belar 23:11, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * lol It's just frozen !--[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 23:11, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Sno.. what? Whats that? We dont know that over here in Germany :P at least not in December :D We had some earlier but just for a week or so ;) (Sry but I HAD to use it at least once :D )  Silent  Storm  [[Image: User SilentStorm MySig.png|19px]] 00:16, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I hope it snows next week... :/ poke | talk 00:16, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Me too... oh wait, I won't be in Germany then. :( <font color="#DD2200">Lord Belar 00:17, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * (Edit conflict) :O you're damn fast Poke... I even havent had time to login and come back to this Page and you already replied... Either way I agree snow on XMas would be nice even tho it means it would be damn cold which would not be nice :D -- Silent Storm  [[Image: User SilentStorm MySig.png|19px]] 00:25, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Cold is fun! Provided you're inside, that is. <font color="#DD2200">Lord Belar 00:27, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Hehe... I prefer the current weather over here ;) -- Silent Storm  [[Image: User SilentStorm MySig.png|19px]] 00:32, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't. Chilly rain is worse than freezing snow. <font color="#DD2200">Lord Belar 00:33, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Rain? We didnt have rain either for the last few days - and If then I didnt notice or it was during the Night when I dont care. -- Silent Storm  [[Image: User SilentStorm MySig.png|19px]] 00:37, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * It just started today, but has been going all day. <font color="#DD2200">Lord Belar 00:38, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Just shoveled 7 inches of snow off my driveway, walkway, and steps in Massachusetts with a sprained thumb while wearing a tshirt and shorts. Funnest thing I've done in a while. calor   (talk)  01:58, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Lucky son of a guns....... its all sun all the time here -.- (its was almost 90 F here the other day D=)  -- Shadow phoenix  [[Image:User Shadowphoenix Necromancer.png|19x19px]] 04:25, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * SP, we're just blessed. @Wyn, and you thought my smilies were horrible O.O j/k j/k Keep the  on around.--  W  o  B  [[Image:User Wings of Blood sig icon.png|24px]] 04:35, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, your smilies are horrible :) poke | talk 15:08, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * =[ I would have to agree actually. xD -- W  o  B  [[Image:User Wings of Blood sig icon.png|24px]] 17:14, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * You folks be glad none of you live in Nebraska. In the last week I was hit by 50F temp drops in under 8 hours, an inch+ of ice, and close to 6 inches of snow on top of that, plus high winds and blowing snow, and 0F temps for the most part. Coem summer, thunderstorms the likes of which you've never seen, tornadoes, 100F+ temps..... &mdash;  Jon  21:26, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Sounds homey. xD -- W  o  B   00:45, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * As soon as Wintersday began in GW, it started snowing badly here. Oh well, it'll be brown sludge in now time. Backsword 17:19, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Wikichu joke
Oppose: Not enough input in discussions. -- Antioch 22:23, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * xD - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 22:26, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * pfff! :D poke | talk 13:21, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

The following file is a duplicate of this file
Did you do this? That's quite convenient. &mdash;Zerpha The Improver 16:34, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Came with the upgrade to 1.13. -- [[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|18px|]] Brains12 \ talk 16:35, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * It's a lovely feature :) poke | talk 17:31, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Indeed it is :) -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 04:27, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Now if only we had some way to list all duplicate images so they could be sorted out it would be great. -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 05:27, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Is it auto-categorized? If so, DPL. If not, ignore Calor the Lurker. calor   (talk)  16:37, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * !wut ( <ChanServ> poke: wut ) - *ignores Calor*
 * No, Kakarot, that is not possible; you would have to go through all images and check the duplicate list at the bottom. poke | talk 16:39, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * And anyways, duplicate images are often needed, eg. icons that are reused. Backsword 16:43, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Still: Duplicates tend to be redundant (by definition). poke | talk 16:46, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

by definition indeed, but de facto backsword has a point here. anyways, i like this feature :) &mdash;Zerpha The Improver 12:25, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Wikichu request
Hey Poke, do you mind having Wikichu change all inclusions of the Guild navbox template to the Template:Alliance nav, I would do it myself but since there are around 381 instances and bot edits are hidden by default so it wouldn't kill RC as well as the repetitive nature of the edits. I realize that it is still using the correct template in a redirection kind of way, it just would remove one more redundent template. -- Kakarot  20:12, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Requests should really go on GWW:BOTS, even if the only bot is Poke's :P -- [[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|18px|]] Brains12 \ talk 20:21, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * :P Will set up the bot later. poke | talk 20:21, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * done. poke | talk 21:16, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Didn't we have a discussion a few months back when we decided we should redirect GWW:BOTS to User talk:Poke? calor   (talk)  17:36, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * *cough* poke | talk 19:35, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

High res skill icons
Thank you very much, these are awesome! BenderRodriguez 21:51, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * You're welcome :) It was actually a quite fun work for me. poke | talk 00:01, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Mistakes
Wikichu flipped around this image with this image. I'm not sure if there are other instances, or if its a one time thing. -- <font color="#D2691E">Wandering <font color="#D2691E">Traveler  23:51, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm, the possibility that Wikichu mixed up some skill images is very low as from the very beginning the skill name was bound to the skill icon. I looked into this and noticed that the Sealed Play cards actually already have this mistake. But as they are just swapped, there is no problem in changing that of course. But note that some skill icons used different icons in the Sealed Play cards (for example Crushing Blow) in which case it isn't possible so far to get the correct skill image without ANet's direct help. Also some skill icons just seem to be upscaled versions of the in-game icons in which case I can't do anything either as they are taken 1:1 (actually without any quality loss during the processing, only the encoding at the very end involved "quality loss" - in which case the quality wasn't visibly reduced) from the Sealed Play cards. So as long as ANet doesn't update them or provides us with better icons, we won't be able to do anything. And on a sidenote: I don't think keeping those "wrong" images harms in any way. poke | talk 00:01, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * True. it doesnt neccesarially harm anything, I just noticed them switched while admiring the high-res ranger shots. Just a name switch would fix it, I guess. --[[Image:User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png|19px]] <font color="#D2691E">Wandering <font color="#D2691E">Traveler  00:04, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Fixed both :) poke | talk 00:04, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * whoops, i better should have checked your talk page before tagging images and ranting wikichu's talk page >.< i only checked the new images gallery and noticed you re-uploaded dodge and zojun's haste as well, afterwards i noticed that Point Blank Shot and Zojun's Shot were switched as well, therefore i supposed there'd be more mixed up dulpicates. but there don't seem to be any more besides these. Although there's one thing i noticed, concerning the large Visions of Regret icon. I can't classify this skill yet, maybe it's an entirely new icon? But in any case it's not the actual Visions of Regret icon currently used ingame. That's all i noticed that far. Sorry for causing the trouble, thanks for the greeting and of course i also with you a merry christmas. &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 00:29, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh, no problem ;) Just wanted to not spread it onto too many pages now ^^ For the icons, I just have those as a base that were used on the Sealed Play cards. I'll fix all images that are just swapped, but for the other ones, we don't have another choice than leaving them or simply saying "Not available!". And I think it might be more interesting to keep those "wrong" but often different (i.e. unknown/new) icons than having red links that probably won't be fixed ever. But I'll ask Emily later, if she is able to get current versions of high res skill icons (especially because of the high number of PvE-only or Monster skills that are in-game). poke | talk 00:34, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * alright. emilie is a good idea, let's see if she can help out. &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 00:40, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * one further mistake: the Shield Guardian image depicts Stonesoul Strike. &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 18:14, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * :/ Another image where the correct image is not available poke | talk 18:17, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion
First off, I love the new high-res images. Just.. awesome. Second, I was looking at the galleries and really like the way you set up the subpage galleries for each separate profession. However, if I may make a suggestion, it would probably be a good idea to scale down the images on the page Gallery_of_high_resolution_skill_icons for easier viewing. I know that kind of defeats the purpose of the high-res images, but otherwise the page is way too large to view effectively. Blood Red Giant 01:16, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I know the page is a bit too big for using it as some kind of index page. I resized them now and created a subpage with the old and larger size; it should work fine now :) poke | talk 01:28, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Greetings & Salutations!
Merry Christmas! -- Wyn 02:33, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Merry Christmas poke. Hope to someday building an awesome robot to take over zee world! --[[Image:User PoA Sig.png|Talk]] Antioch 04:33, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Merry Christmas and Happy Wintersday Poke. -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 06:09, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you and Merry Christmas to you, too :) poke | talk 16:09, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Wiki code help
Hello poke, I was wondering if you could help me with a bit of wiki code (given how you're our code expert and all : D). Following the skill animations project, we're implementing the currently available animations, so I have edited the skill infobox template, adding the following:

It's working: in "We Shall Return!", for example, now there's a link pointing people to the animation. The problem, though, is that, in order to make a text linking to an image, the only tool I could find was the "media" link (using "image" just makes the image itself load on the page). Such links lead to an empty page with nothing other than the image (example), while I was trying to find a way to get the usual image display page. I could just use an external link like I'm doing here, but then the skill infobox wouldn't look that good.

Would you happen to know a way of making a wiki link between text and an image? Erasculio 13:55, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I dont know if I fully understood what you try to archieve but tried  yet? That will give sth like Link text here -- Silent  Storm  [[Image: User SilentStorm MySig.png|19px]] 14:15, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that solved my problem : ). Which is weird, because either I'm extremely dumb and didn't try what would have been the more obvious solution, or that didn't work when I tried (and I'm not exactly sure I want the answer for that >.>). Erasculio 14:29, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * You're welcome :) -- Silent Storm  [[Image: User SilentStorm MySig.png|19px]] 15:32, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't it be easier to automatically check if there is an animation available instead of using a parameter, that says it should look for that animation? poke | talk 16:10, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * How would we do that? Erasculio 16:29, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Edited the skill infobox :) No animation parameter needed anymore. poke | talk 16:44, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Yay, thanks : ) Now I won't have to edit those 1000+ skill page articles. That has really helped. Erasculio 16:46, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * You're welcome :) poke | talk 16:52, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

What day is it?
(It's the day before my birthday, that's what!)

Even though it's still the 26th here in make-sense-land, happy birthday!



-- Brains12 \ talk 23:00, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you :) You got me - I was preparing a section on myself, but now you won. Pling 1, Poke 0. Just you wait!! :D poke | talk 23:04, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Happy Birthday Poke and all the best im the First one using this in this section yay xD -- Silent  Storm  [[Image: User SilentStorm MySig.png|19px]] 23:07, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * and happy birthday. <font color="#DD2200">Lord Belar 23:13, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I would have wished you happy birthday on IRC but it just keeps crashing; I guess this will have to do, Happy Birthday Poke! -- scourge  [[Image:User_Scourge_Signature.png|19px|rawr!]] 23:20, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks :) Too bad about your IRC though :( poke | talk 23:21, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Happy Birthday Poke, hope it's a good one :) Does Wikichu have a birthday? :P -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 02:33, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Kakarot. Wikichu's account was created on 13 September 2007 (due to a discussion in IRC about the name) poke | talk 02:37, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll save the birthday wishes for when he's on a long editing spree >P -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 02:39, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * That is evil! :O poke | talk 02:43, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Happy B-day, Poke =D -- W  o  B  [[Image:User Wings of Blood sig icon.png|24px]] 05:56, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * You people who live in the future scare me ;_; Are there flying cars yet? Happy birthday : D Erasculio 12:43, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Happy Birthday man! &mdash;  Jon  18:31, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Alles Gute zum Geburtstag! (I think it's happy birthday... If not, happy birthday and a late merry christmas!) calor   (talk)  19:33, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * BIG HAPPY BIRTHDAY because all ya'll December babies probably get less xmas gifts or less birthday gifts all your lives!Sophie Deadbones 19:49, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you :) I can't give an answer about the gift count as I don't know it differently (my brother's birthday was last week) - but I don't see it negative to have birthday that soon after (or before) christmas. And Calor, that is correct, your link "how do you say happy birthday in german?" was right ^^ poke | talk 21:03, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Happy belated B-day Poke! -- Shadow phoenix  [[Image:User Shadowphoenix Necromancer.png|19x19px]] 17:21, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Checking to see if a link goes to the current page?
I would like to be able to check if the page a template is invoked from is the same page as one of the template's parameters. The parameters are links. I was trying to use, , and.

The results were not what I expected. Is it possible to do this? (And if so, how?) mtew 02:05, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * poke | talk 02:11, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * TemplateTest contents:

<pre style="margin-left: 4em;"> Testing a template that detects what page is referenced. xx
 * TemplateTest/test contents:

<pre style="margin-left: 4em;">
 * Result:

<pre style="margin-left: 4em;"> Testing a template that detects what page is referenced. xTitle no match Guild Wars Wiki:Sandbox/TemplateTestx
 * Hmmm? mtew 03:38, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, you want to pass an named link? Then it is impossible if you don't know the link title. poke | talk 11:36, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I've put the test code in the public Sandbox at Guild Wars Wiki talk:Sandbox/TemplateTest. It also fails for unnamed links, but &#x23;rel2abs might be able to fix that.  It looks like I'll have to have the template construct the link from pieces seperated by &#x7b;&#x7b;!&#x7d;&#x7d;. Not as pretty but it will allow other stuff to be passed also.  Crud.  Felicitations on your B-day. mtew 17:08, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * We done? mtew 01:53, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * It is possible to do it, when you know the link title (always) or when there is no link title given, as you then simply are able to compare with  or the anchorencoded versions of both. But when you don't know if it is given as a link or not, and if with what title, it won't be possible. You better rethink then your structure of templates so you never need to answer that question at all. poke | talk 01:57, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thought I said that. Ah well. Agreed. Time to sieve the sandbox? mtew 02:10, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Got the Folder Tabs template finished. The documentation and examples are probably a little rough.  If you are interested, take a look.  Comments on the discussion pages are welcome. mtew 15:47, 30 December 2008 (UTC)