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You have two sysops and a user (me) against you in adding the game suggestions. Wouldn't you get the clue by now to stop that? You think you know what everyone wants. Isn't it obvious that there are others speaking against you that also make up the community? Please, it's childish.

The Game Suggestions has a link in the Feedback Portal. There is no REASON to add it to the main page. None at all, unless you want people to make fools of themselves. They are to read the rules, before making an account and making suggestions. If having a link going direct to the Game suggestions... would actually serve no 'Purpose' to have rules as there's no good sense to add the 'rules' to the game suggestions, when they should have been READ before entering the game Suggestions. I did such and so did many of the others. ♥ Ariyen ♀ 07:55, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * just agree with wyn more plz. stop and think for your self for a moment. one you cant post on the page with out becoming a user of the feed back name space. and 2 the rules are not even on that page it just directs you to the exact same as the suggestions page dose.--[[Image:User_Zesbeer_sig.png|link=User talk:Zesbeer‎]] Zesbeer 07:57, 22 September 2009 (UTC)


 * "You have two sysops and a user (me) against you"


 * Just wanna make it clear, a sysop does not have an extra word in any discussion -- they are to be treated as regular contributors C4K3 [[Image:User_C4K3_Signature.jpg]] Talk 12:10, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * i know this i dont think ariyen dose.--[[Image:User_Zesbeer_sig.png|link=User talk:Zesbeer‎]] Zesbeer 21:46, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I understand that a sysop doesn't have extra word, I'm pointing out that three against one, does not give that one the right to still think he needs to add game suggestions aka reverting pages far more than necessary. ♥ Ariyen ♀ 22:15, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Zesbeer, please act like a responsible adult and you won't have people talking 'down' to you. ♥ Ariyen ♀ 22:15, 22 September 2009 (UTC)


 * care about the internet more please and i do act responsible please listen to reason and logic. instead of just auto agreeing with wyn also i have at least 4 other people who agree with me. i can get them to respond but i don't care enough anymore.--[[Image:User_Zesbeer_sig.png|link=User talk:Zesbeer‎]] Zesbeer 22:45, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

And I have eight or so. So? They're not on the wiki, the people ON this community is what I'm talking about. Not your Friends, nor those that you're in the guild with, etc. Not them. Not unless they're actually participating. Now if you want to be a puppet for them, great, but realize that being the 'voice' of others isn't going to help here. You are only standing for you on this wiki as far as I'm concerned. Not One voice would help your friends, etc. When you get out in the real world and face situations similar at work, etc. (I have) you would learn that it doesn't really get you much anywhere in certain points in life.

There's times for one to speak for the many, and other times for many to speak for themselves ♥ Ariyen ♀ 03:13, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * all i see is a wall of text that i dont care about. plz care more about the internet. guild wars wiki is srus buznus -[[Image:User_Zesbeer_sig.png|link=User talk:Zesbeer‎]] Zesbeer 04:52, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

How?
This and the This. The fact that I have busted my butt for this this community, and I have to listen to and take the kind of CRAP you are spewing at me is beyond ridiculous sometimes. -- Wyn  talk  01:04, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * umad? 1-10? - Auron 01:08, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Calm down, Wyn. It's just wiki. Nothing to get emotional over. Nobody wants another Noxify fiasco. -Faer 01:38, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * wyn i know there was a voting system, i don't like you you always come off as smug and pretentious. - [[Image:User_Zesbeer_sig.png|link=User talk:Zesbeer‎]] Zesbeer 01:51, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * @Auron, no, I'm not mad @Fear stop being a noob @Zesbeer then stop asking stupid questions. -- Wyn [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon2.png|19px ]] talk  02:46, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

LOL im not asking stupid questions wyn. i mean i dont know who in there right mind would vote for you. - Zesbeer 02:51, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Their names are listed on those two pages I linked. Why don't you tell them they aren't in their "right mind" and see if they agree with you. -- Wyn [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon2.png|19px ]] talk  02:59, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * will do wyn. -[[Image:User_Zesbeer_sig.png|link=User talk:Zesbeer‎]] Zesbeer 03:15, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Wynn is waaay too valuable for this wiki. i can't imagine GWW without her.<-LOLWarherox 04:07, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * i know right warherox?i would also like to point out that there is 15 people who opposed you. and if i could go back in time i would add my name to both lists. -[[Image:User_Zesbeer_sig.png|link=User talk:Zesbeer‎]] Zesbeer 04:51, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * GuildWiki admins? In my talk page?  It's more likely than you think --Seventh 05:58, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

grind tastic mechanics?
Agreed. However, I point you at Guild Wars PvP. Is it any less of a joke? No, they're both pretty fucking terrible.

No, WoW PvP is not a joke because of the grind, it is a joke because of its poor design and lack of competition. WoW PvP is separated into three game types - world pvp, where you fight random people out in PvE lands, battlegrounds, which is a fancy word for "alliance battles," and arenas, which are 2v2, 3v3 or 5v5 TA matches. World PvP is obviously bad, because world PvP is a joke by definition. Alliance battles are obviously also a joke; just look at Guild Wars. 12 people running around with PvE builds like chickens with their heads cut off is never going to equal a fun game type. Lastly, arenas are okay, but they're nothing special - they were on the lower end of Guild Wars PvP (note the use of "were"). Also, I point you to the grind that is called Guild Wars PvP. Have you ever done Heroes' Ascent? What do you have to do to get into groups there? Grind. What do you have to do in GvG, as a guild, to get up to the top of the ladder? Grind. What do you have to do in RA to get a high glad title? Grind. You must be playing an entirely different Guild Wars than I am if you think it has no grind.

Uh, what actually happens is you go in right away and get your ass kicked because the guy you're playing has 4 years of experience on you.

Yeah, it takes all of a month to get to level 80, and you can do battlegrounds starting at 50. I doubt you played GW PvE for less than a month before doing any serious PvP, so I don't see what you're bitching about.

You are forgiven, since you've been wrong about pretty much everything except the first line.

I would suggest having a job. Once you have one of these job things, $15 a month is nothing. That aside, compare WoW's monthly fee to... well, anything else, really. You could buy an xbox 360 for hundreds of dollars, and let's say you buy a new game every month (which is actually kind of slow, I generally burn through console games faster than that) at $50-60 apiece. Very few console games have much replay value, and you're still burning a lot of cash on other games even if you do manage to find the two or three games that are good. Ignoring the costs of additional controllers ($30+ each), batteries for said additional controllers ($5/month if not more), costs of additional controllers for games that don't use the standard one (i.e., rock band, which was $200 last I checked), that's still more than it costs to play WoW. Add on all that crap I just mentioned and you're spending way more than you would to play WoW. Aside from that, calculate how much you've spend on Guild Wars. $50 per campaign, $30 for grind of the north, $10 or so for the bonus mission pack, $10 per character slot, $15 for any possible name/hair/face changes... that's a lot of money. You could play WoW for months on that. However, look at how much actual content ANet has added post-nightfall. Absolutely nothing. Like I said already, you get what you pay for - WoW has raids added or revamped every 1-2 months (and not like ANet's empty promises that they're going to do anything - the WoW raids actually come out). Guild Wars has jack shit. It's up to you which one you want to swear by.

............................................................................................... What the fuck? You think Blizzard is copying ArenaNet? That's ridiculous. Expansions have been a part of blizzard games since WC2. WC2 expansion came out in 1996. Starcraft expansion came out in 1998. Diablo 2 expansion came in 2001. Warcraft 3 expansion came out in 2003. WoW came out in 2004. Guild Wars came out in 2005. You're saying that because they add expansions to WoW that they're copying ANet? Seriously? Like... really? I don't even know how to respond to that.

Oh, I forgot that you got Guild Wars expansions for free. My bad. I definitely didn't spend $50 for each one when they came out. - Auron 00:50, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * you seem to have missed the part where i said i don't care and if you wanted to continue this description do it else were not my talk page with that said ill be archiving this page tomorrow.- [[Image:User_Zesbeer_sig.png|link=User talk:Zesbeer‎]] Zesbeer 02:08, 30 September 2009 (UTC)