User talk:Auntmousie

Images
Images you have uploaded are in violation of the wiki's policies due to image naming, and is therefore up for deletion. Any image that is going to be used only for guild or user pages need to follow a specific naming pattern, to ease maintenance. Please see the image policy. Fall 06:42, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Good policy. I uploaded new versions that follow policy, and don't mind at all if you nuke the old ones.  Sorry for assuming all was the same as in the previous. Auntmousie 06:05, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Alliance Contact
This is just a pre-generated space for alliance contact. I'll check it as often as I can. Auntmousie 09:27, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Changed your Guild Page
Fixed the Alliance NavBox issue we were having...trick was to embed the whole thing in one big table, one big row, with the schtuff on the left being in one column, and the guild box in the other. Hope you like...revert if not ;-) Scion Of Erixalimar 06:30, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Looks good! I might slide the navbox up to fill in the blank space better.  Or maybe I'll just blather on more in the first area.  Thanks regardless. Auntmousie 03:51, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Easiest thing to do (I just did it to mine) is to add valign=top to the first |- line. It keeps the wiki from auto-centering everything. Scion Of Erixalimar 06:46, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * thanks again. Auntmousie 07:14, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Awesome templates dude.
Wow, these templates rock. (If anyone wants to see it, my old page is here.) Re-naming and mucking with templates is NOT easy, but I stand on the shoulders of giants; thanks particularly to User:Scion Of Erixalimar, who did the bitchin' switchin' tab bar, but also to the people whose work he worked on - User:Xelnaga, User:Lensor, User:Fusa. Auntmousie 11:13, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Information resources
Have you tried Quick access links to connect with collector information? It's pretty complete. I like your character pages btw. -- Wynthyst 00:55, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that! I still prefer the way the guildwiki page is organized, but it's a minor thing to be sure.  As for the pages... I can only take credit for the content, the formatting is as credited above. Auntmousie 01:32, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

character images
Hey, I was just perusing your characters.. and the images are great. You've got an eye for framing and backgrounds.. very nice just to poke around and enjoy. - T HARKUN  06:30, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Almost all of them are deliberate, and some are in-jokes ... for example, Mieko is posed at the gate to Maguuma Stade - a town that pretty much only a Cartographer ever finds. Auntmousie 07:16, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Permissions
In case it's ever an issue, I hereby grant permission to edit my pages and upload new images to the following users:

Auntmousie 00:30, 13 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Speaking of it, may i suggest moving the permission list template into your userspace? Not that it is needed or anything, but if it stays on the Template namespace, other users may try changing it to allow adaptability.--Fighterdoken 00:41, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that. Stupid oversight on my part.  List moved.  Auntmousie 01:12, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Your signature
Hi there. It looks like your sig image is a little large. The Signature policy states that sig images should be no larger than 19 x 19 pixels, but yours is 117x21. Do you think you could shrink it down a bit. It looks like you could easily do that by just having the mouse as the image (and shrinking the mouse a bit), and using text for the "Aunt Mousie" bit. Biscuits 05:10, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Something like this: Aunt [[Image:User Auntmousie Small Sig.gif]] mousie! (TALK | HISTORY)
 * -- Biscuits [[Image:User Biscuits sig.png]] 05:36, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Much as I appreciate the concern, the reason I made it the way I did is so that the entire name is the link. However, I did save your smaller version in order to obey a 19-pixel height which is within the non-text-disrupting intent of the policy. [[Image:User_Auntmousie_mysig.jpg| ]] (TALK | HISTORY) 06:06, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, I'm pretty sure that even just taking the mouse image into consideration, it's still larger than 19px by 19px. You really should use something like Biscuits suggested. If you want the whole name to be the link, just add a link to the words before and after the image. Kokuou 06:39, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
 * If I make "Aunt" and "mousie" both links, with the mouse image in the middle, the signature looks like this:
 * Aunt [[Image:User_Auntmousie_mysig.jpg]][User:Auntmousie|Mousie!]] (TALK | HISTORY) which is a line and a half in the text editor even with my very wide screen... which makes it dangerously close to a policy violation to do it that way. I've started a discussion on the policy thread, and if the concensus is that limiting the height alone is enough, then I'll change it... but for my two cents it isn't presently a problem. [[Image:User_Auntmousie_mysig.jpg| ]] (TALK | HISTORY) 08:29, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Update: I made a minor change anyway, because (a) I like this better, (b) it's shorter both visually and in wikicode, and (c) it strongly refocuses the argument because my signature is now shorter than many/most out there. [[Image:User_Auntmousie_19pxJrat.jpg| ]] (AUNTMOUSIE) 09:45, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi there. We haven't had much input on the wider-signature-images issue from other users yet, but as it currently stands, your signature is in violation of the current policy. As was seen with the J.Kougar issue, breaking policies simply because it seems unfair or restrictive to you is not the way to get your point across. Until a consensus has been reached on the issue, I would advise you to change your signature image so that it complies with the 19px by 19px policy. Kokuou 23:13, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * To fix this, just change the code to . --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|15px|Pling! \]] Brains12 \ Talk 23:21, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I know how to restrain an image size - but I recognize that your intentions are good in posting them, and I thank you for those intentions. Kokuou, although I don't think this such a big problem, I also assume that your intention is to keep me from being banned, and as such I thank you for your concern as well.  And as you both can see, I've temporarily complied.  Meanwhile, now that I've thanked you both for your kindness, I can take this moment to say that while I'm sure the people who wrote GWW:SIGN are good and well-intentioned people, the policy as written is a great big pile of Wurm Spoor.  The reasoning behind the image restriction does not logically support such a tight restriction on width, and thus the policy as written is fundamentally flawed.  If nobody ever stood up and defied dumb rules, we would still have segregation in the south and a British tax on our tea.  This policy is stupid and I'm only following it under the implied threat of a ban.  I'd like to point out for the record that I'm speaking specifically about the policy, not about the very intelligent and well-intentioned people who originally drafted it, and thus not violating GWW:NPA. [[Image:User_Auntmousie_19pxJrat.jpg|19x19px| ]] (AUNTMOUSIE under protest) 03:08, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey, again. Yeah, I really didn't want to see anyone get banned over something that silly, so that's why I let you know. Personally, I'm for the width restriction because I can't stand how messy and juvenile some of the talk pages over on GuildWiki look, and so far that problem has been limited here thanks to that particular restriction. However, should you feel strongly enough and are able to convince other users, then by all means, rewrite the policy. (Off topic, I love the 'under protest' bit of your signature! :D) Kokuou 04:02, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I like it too. Unfortunately it's also against policy and I've had enough of actually breaking policy for now.  With some help from Scion I've tweaked the 'better' rat image to utilize more of the meager space I'm currently allowed, and in the meantime, the under protest now links to the talk page for my signature - which in turn is temporarily redirected to the discussion.  Technical compliance FTW. [[Image:User_Auntmousie_19x19Jrat.jpg| ]] (AUNTMOUSIE under protest) 08:09, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Signature Image sizes policy
Since you have made waves about the same subject before I thought you might be interested in my proposal. I could use some support if we are going to get it passed into policy. Elric talk 05:04, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Issue on your page
Wearable titles... I think you have a { or } or some other command missing or misplaced somewhere on your page. Elric talk 08:44, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * yeah, I know ... but they're owned by another user. I'm kinda dependent on him to fix it. [[Image:User_Auntmousie_19x19Jrat.jpg| ]] (AUNTMOUSIE) 09:04, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * doh [[Image:User Elric Coy Elric-icon.png|19px]] Elric talk
 * Have you noticed that so far the only arguments against our proposed change are "the sky is falling", "you'll poke your eye out", and "why do you need all the colors in the rainbow, black and white is good enough for you mister" [[Image:User Elric Coy Elric-icon.png|19px]] Elric  talk 09:09, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Not to be pedantic, but the proposed change is yours - I gave up on this issue a long time ago. I'd still love to see you win it - but it's your baby, not mine.
 * That said... yeah, I had noticed that. [[Image:User_Auntmousie_19x19Jrat.jpg| ]] (AUNTMOUSIE) 09:19, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Well... with your support and your prior engagement with this subject, I believe that makes this your issue too, vicariously. [[Image:User Elric Coy Elric-icon.png|19px]] Elric talk 09:30, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry it took so long...parsing changes with the wiki update in Dec made the templates not work right. Fixed. [[Image:User_Scion_Of_Erixalimar_SigIcon.png | ]] ~Scion~ [GRIPE]  19:55, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! [[Image:User_Auntmousie_19x19Jrat.jpg| ]] (AUNTMOUSIE) 23:31, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Minor Edit
Hello Auntmousie. I'd like to introduce you to the "Minor Edit" button that happily presents itself right above the "save page" button. Minor Edit, Auntmousie. Auntmousie, Minor Edit. Now that you two are acquaintainted, it'd be great for you two to get to know each other. And if this meeting makes you want to NOT use the button just to spite me, I will not be the only one to poke at you for that so... keep that in mind.--  anguard  00:00, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Um... I checked and it has been ages since I've edited anything other than my own userspace. Am I not to be the judge of what is and is not a "minor" edit in the context of my own userspace?  More to the point - the purpose of those flags is to assist others who are viewing the edit history.  Since the only person who should be concerned with the edit history of my userspace is, um, me ... why do you even care?  I'm not trying to be snarky or indignant, I'm sincerely curious.  Incidentally, I don't consider this conversation a minor edit. [[Image:User_Auntmousie_19x19Jrat.jpg| ]] (AUNTMOUSIE) 01:11, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I guess I should have added the fact that it clogs up the "Recent Changes" listing which many users use to catch discussions or vandals. Having a massive load of non-minor-edits that ARE minor like typos or minor additions, clogs that list. It's a pet peeve of some people. All that said, I watch all minor edits anyway. But that's me.-- [[Image:User_Vanguard_VanguardLogo.png|19px]] anguard  16:01, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Fair enough as far as it goes; typo correction is the quintessential minor edit. (I would also add linkification of text to that category.)  By contrast, adding a hero to a list of heroes unlocked for a particular character is qualitatively different - even though the change is relatively small, and has to be done fourteen separate times on essentially equivalent pages.  (I have a lot of characters.)  I don't know if that's the edit(s) you have in mind.
 * I do know that at some point in the not too distant future, I'm going to be doing an overhaul of my character pages to update them - which I haven't done, by and large, since last year. Many details are out of date.  Gathering the relevant data takes time, and it's time I don't have in spades, but when all is ready the result will be a spate of rapid-fire non-minor edits.  Just so you know. [[Image:User_Auntmousie_19x19Jrat.jpg| ]] (AUNTMOUSIE) 19:28, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Those are the time of 'minor' edits people post on talk pages for. You've been warned, if people end up caring enough to reiterate what I've already said.-- [[Image:User_Vanguard_VanguardLogo.png|19px]] anguard  02:16, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, as long as we're on the subject, if updating character worship pages doesn't qualify, what exactly would be a non-minor edit on a user page - in your opinion? Just curious. [[Image:User_Auntmousie_19x19Jrat.jpg| ]] (AUNTMOUSIE) 06:20, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Personally, I'd consider any revisions, changes, or additions to any pages under my personal space, especially those for characters, as "minor edits." The purpose of the wiki is to document the game, and, as such, I personally consider user pages and spaces less "important," as it were, than mainspace pages. So, to me, if a spelling correction counts as a "minor edit" on a page about a boss, then any user space change, regardless of whether it's also a spelling revision or a complete page overhaul, would count as a minor edit. I'm sure there are others that feel differently, but that's my take on the situation. ;) -- ★ KOKUOU ★ 07:30, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I think almost -everything- is minor. I agree with the above, but sometimes I also UNcheck minor edit when I'm trying to draw attention to a page. But even then I only do that with my comic and blog. Otherwise, minor edits ahoy, because everything of mine, to other people, is irrelevant.-- [[Image:User_Vanguard_VanguardLogo.png|19px]] anguard  14:21, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

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 * I must be missing something, then... why is it you can ignore edits marked as minor, but can't ignore edits to userspace? [[Image:User_Auntmousie_19x19Jrat.jpg| ]] (AUNTMOUSIE) 18:09, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Epilogue: I find it surpring that no one mentioned, in this thread, the policy on this very subject.

A suggestion
Traveling to Eye of the North towns has really exacerbated a problem I've always had with the map-travel mechanic. If I'm in (say) Great Temple of Balthazar, with my guildie and three heroes apiece, and want to go to (say) Rata Sum, I either have to route through Kaineng City and then Boreal Station, or else temporarily kick two heroes and go through Lion's Arch. Or if we're going to Vabbi, well, then we need to separate (or kick four heroes) and go through Kamadan, Jewel of Istan. I'm sorry, but this is silly.

My suggestion: A "Guild Travel Agent" that each guild can purchase for the Guild Hall, who will take you to any city you have visited before - with the usual "some members of your party have not been there, you will be separated" caveats. That way, I can get from point A to point B, no matter where they are, just by stopping by my Guild Hall - which I do half the time anyway because it has all the other services I spent exorbitant amounts of gold on.

I'd pay 10 or 50 or 100 plat for that convenience. I bet a lot of other people would, too. It's an instant gold sink. Sure it would require some coding but not all that much. If there's a downside I'm sure not seeing it. (AUNTMOUSIE) 18:52, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Love the idea, would be great if something like this was implemented! Shadow Runner  20:06, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * NOTICE: this suggestion has been pollenated to the Feedback space on my suggestions page.