Talk:Rubi Spottedmane

And ironically, "might" is exactly the meaning of "may" that is the wrong one. | 72  (UTC) 06:09, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * had a feeling so here's definition of might:   "aux.v., Past tense of, may. 1. Used to indicate a condition or state contrary to fact: She might help if she knew the truth. 2. Used to indicate a possibility or probability that is weaker than may: We might discover a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. 2. Used to express possibility or probability or permission in the past: She told him yesterday he might not go on the trip. 3. Used to express a higher degree of deference or politeness than may, ought, or should: Might I express my opinion?"

Definition of may: "aux.v., Past tense, might (mīt). 1. To be allowed or permitted to: May I take a swim? Yes, you may. 2. Used to indicate a certain measure of likelihood or possibility: It may rain this afternoon. 3. Used to express a desire or fervent wish: Long may he live! 4. Used to express contingency, purpose, or result in clauses introduced by that or so that: expressing ideas so that the average person may understand. 5. To be obliged; must. Used in statutes, deeds, and other legal documents."

Neither don't pinpoint that he will be there. Now for can: "aux.v. Past tense, could (kʊd). A.1. Used to indicate physical or mental ability: I can carry both suitcases. Can you remember the war? 2. Used to indicate possession of a specified power, right, or privilege: The President can veto congressional bills. 3. Used to indicate possession of a specified capability or skill: I can tune the harpsichord as well as play it. B. 1. Used to indicate possibility or probability: I wonder if my long lost neighbor can still be alive. Such things can and do happen. 2. Used to indicate that which is permitted, as by conscience or feelings: One can hardly blame you for being upset. 3. Used to indicate probability or possibility under the specified circumstances: They can hardly have intended to do that. 3. Usage Problem. Used to request or grant permission: Can I be excused?" . So still think can is the right one?-- riyen ♥  06:17, 9 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, read my latest edit summary for a more concise and less red herring answer.
 * I'll clarify it here just in case: "he might/may [predicate]" is usable for "it may be the case that: [predicate]." In this case, that meaning is wrong. Whereas "can" means "it is the case that sometimes (under some circumstances): [predicate]." While might/may also have that meaning, they are ambiguous and are capable of the wrong meaning, but can is not.
 * Oh, and to fill the last bit of space I left for confusion, yes, it is the case that sometimes (under some circumstances) he appears. | 72 User_Seventy_two_Truly_Random.jpg (UTC) 06:25, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * See Can to me means he will or could definately appear. where as might and may is like eh it's a maybe, a 50/50 chance. I do not understand where you got the "it may be" case out of can. as may is more for may be than can is. -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 06:30, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * "It can snow in the winter" means sometimes, under the right conditions, it snows, but not necessarily. -- ★ KOKUOU ★ 06:35, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Can never implies certainty of outcome. We just assume it does because that is how it is used in everyday speech too often. (e.g. "Yes, I can") Vili &#x70B9; [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 06:35, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Because of how so many use it everyday, is why I questioned it, rather changed it. -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 06:39, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Please ignore Vili's fairly irrelevant answer. What I said and Kokuou paraphrased is correct. If the words mean different things to you, Ariyen, remember that this wiki is in English.
 * You are arguing the strength of the term in the meaning I said only can has. That's irrelevant. May/Might also have the OTHER MEANING which is WRONG. | 72 User_Seventy_two_Truly_Random.jpg (UTC) 06:40, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Then it should be better worded than it was Thankfully it is now, with you and I tagteaming it to be better. Not weasling out of it, but my southern english taught by english teachers, (even within a couple of years). I learned differently. I was taught to write more as to how it sounds as how young kids might interpret it. Instead of going with more so the 'politically' correct way. -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 06:44, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I suppose your English teachers also taught you how to capitalize random words for no rhyme nor reason, and to end sentences as abruptly as they start. Pika Fan 07:01, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Nope, all on my Own. Thanks. :-) gotta have a Unique style, ya know. Compared to others. -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 07:05, 9 December 2009 (UTC)