Talk:Game updates

Connection bug 2/14/10
It seems like a lot of my alliance are having problems connecting different characters to the game, gettign error 50. Not only am I having this problem, but I will get error 50 when I try to map travel, after which I can't even leave the area by walking from it. SarielV 23:50, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes same problem here, I am farming amatz basin and i keep seeing (error=50) sucks big time... T1Cybernetic [[File:User T1Cybernetic Glob of Ectoplasm.png]] 23:54, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
 * There are other people complaining of similar problems. It's likely due to so many people being connected at once, which isn't really a bug, it's just overload. What can I say? - ANET's A team is working on GW2, so we have to deal with the B team. -Ninjatek 23:59, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
 * We need Mr. T. Infested Hydralisk  00:38, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * If you have a problem - if no one else can help - and if you can find them - maybe you can hire: The Anet-Team. --Frosty  [[Image:User Frosty Frostcharge sig.jpg|19px]] 00:40, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I think that's meant to be fire. Tidas 12:11, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * derp let's hate on arenanet and beat a dead horse, we'll kill two birds with one stone. MAFARAXAS 12:28, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * That'd take a heck of a throwing arm. :) SarielV [[Image:User SarielV sig.png|20 x 20px]] 20:49, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Or a high-quality slingshot. Anwyway, I'm fairly sure it's the festival that is or was giving you the load errors. Any such luck? --Kyoshi (Talk) [[File:User Kyoshi sig.png]] 21:41, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Developer Updates
Is there a reason the most recent (Feb '10) Developer Updates hasn't been linked to on the wiki/copied to the wiki as always is seen in the past? Is it just not done, or is it not to be done this time? --Emkyooess
 * See Feedback:Developer updates/20100225. --Silver Edge 23:14, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Imaginary update notes
I think it's time to remove the Fools day notes, because these changes never happened. If you won't remove these, just mark them as not part of the actual game, so nobody get confused by these. Thx. 217.235.109.106 21:27, 2 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I got confused by this too after coming back to the game after 2 years. Its not April fools anymore guys. --207.81.114.103 22:12, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Guild Wars Wiki notes
What exactly does that mean and where would it be? is there a place that is noted and if so why isnt it linked where it can be clicked upon? 24.197.130.109 07:07, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * From the top of the Game updates page: Undocumented changes are listed under "Guild Wars Wiki notes". --Silver Edge 07:13, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you for posting exactly the same text from the top of the page.... So helpful. is "Guild Wars Wiki notes" a page and if it is why isn't it linked? Understand? 75.136.139.55 22:30, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Whoah, no need to act all mean! All Silver Edge did was, actually, answer the question! "Guild Wars Wiki notes" are just notes added to the game updates page by Guild Wars Wiki users to list undocumented changes for each update. They're just notes, there's no special page for just these notes. Why would there need to be? Or am I misinterpreting your question as a whole? 81.71.183.54 22:39, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm a bit confused too. If you're asking if there's a page with all of the undocumented changes/explanatory notes for patches on it, not that I'm aware of. Manifold [[Image:User_Manifold_Jupiter.jpg|19px]] 22:41, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Scroll down the page for examples - you'll find "Guild Wars Wiki notes" headers under the updates that required them. -- pling User Pling sig.png 22:42, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Also Mr original IP, in the future tone down the aggression and try to post questions which aren't half formed. Understand? -- Salome   [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]] 23:05, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Mr Understand is different to the "original" IP user. -- pling User Pling sig.png 23:11, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry if it seemed rude it wasn't intended as rude, just a Lil sarcasm seeing how the question was answered with the exact same info copy and pasted from where my question originated. I didnt really understand before it was explained and now that I do. I understand... Thanks 75.136.139.55 02:49, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

April 2nd
What happened with the April 2nd update notes? Or for that matter what happened with the April 1st joke notes? Razor39999 15:06, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
 * April 1st normaly gets put in a humor section to stop confusing people.not to sure what the 2'nds done though.-- Nei l2250  ,    Render Lord User Neil2250 sig icon6.png 15:07, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Hm never mind, I noticed it's already in the April archive. Kinda weird having an archive of the month that's still going. Razor39999 15:13, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
 * If I remember right, someone changed it so that it would show less updates. It makes the page smaller and load quicker. The Lone Warrior 04:18, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

What mistakes?
"...which is always the sign of a flexible system." Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә    ѕνәи  Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 23:56, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Please give Paragons something!
I'm Not sure if this the right place to bring up this issue or not but its been far to long since paragons have had anything nice. All I'm saying is they could use a Big buff in all areas! When they first came out in October 27, 2006 Paragons where great there was nothing wrong with them, and since then they have been slowly reduced to a "Cute little mini pet that toss a tooth pick! Are they not suppose to be like guardian angels? I mean Shouts are all they really have to make a difference, I mean sure it helps others here and there but what about the paragons them selfs. Also in the description for the paragons it states " Through insight, they help others resist Hexes and Conditions! ... well Conditions yes very much so but Hexes.... Not at all.... NO wait theres one just one. That takes 8 adrenaline to use PLUS its only useful if your using a spell (How about them apples!?) Theres a time for a change and that time needs to be now! Or the next up date would be nice. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 188.129.240.121 (talk).
 * No. -- Tha Reckoning 23:55, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
 * On the contrary, please nerf SY by making it Strength-based and tone down TNtF. If you do, I might actually be able to play a Paragon character without feeling unclean. Arshay Duskbrow 00:09, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I think para is in high need of an update and buff in all areas, some of the skills I refuse to use because they take SO long to charge up and the conditions applied to the skills in question make them worthless, I play Imbagon, but its boring, and really think a buff for the para should have come before mesmer. Mesmer was not really broken and now they are too overpowered but who cares? Lets nerf everything then make the worst class the strongest so that everyone has to go caster? oh joy, caster. Who wants to play warrior when they can be a caster?  because guild wars felt we all need to be casters to play the game. Why did they make melee classes anyway? Rogueonion 22:46, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
 * You lost me at mesmer formerly being the worst class. -- Tha Reckoning 22:50, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
 * It is easy, the least played is often considered the worst. Logical. Rogueonion 18:06, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but you learn otherwise when a good mesmer gets you by the balls in pvp. Hell, even the bad ones can do significant things post update. -- Tha Reckoning 18:43, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I concur, however they were doing rather significant things pre-update. which was my point, ele's have become outdated and should be deleted since mesmer now does their job, wars cannot do crap now post update, shoot melee in general is having trouble post update. but they fail to see (I wonder if they even tested this from the perspective of other classes?) that this supposed "balance" had an UNBALANCING effect on other classes. I apologize if i insulted you, that was never my intention, I just think they need to rethink how powerful they made one class over all others, and I think that whomever said it was right, "mesmers are not supposed to be flashy, they are supposed to suborne and do things that are not very noticeable, because THAT is what a mesmer is," <- not a direct quote but the gist of a paragraph, and they did that rather well pre-update, Rogueonion 18:49, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree that mesmers were in a good place (more or less) pre update. You had A) VoR/Backfire buttonmashers, or B)Any of the balanced mesmer builds, like powerblock/pd etc. Now, all you see is VoR, and Esurge/mind wrack. That doesn't make your warrior any less playable. I took mine out last night and destroyed all the mesmers running e denial with no distortion or anything. I haven't seen a single ineptitude/wandering eye/clumsiness mesmer, either on obs or in matches, since the update, which is surprising. I see bsurges far more often, see the mAT final. So far, it seems melee are still in the same position they were in pre update, which is definitely better than the alternative. -- Tha Reckoning 18:56, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Granted, though, I haven't been on a whole lot lately, I was /raging at what happened to mesmers. -- Tha Reckoning 18:58, 4 June 2010 (UTC)


 * I hear you, I guess the places I have left are the ones with all the nasties, go check out Magus Stones, Salt Flats, Skyward Reach, oh man how about this go fight some WiK npcs, they are all secondary mesmer these days, or is that thirdeary? whatever the word is, some of them have 3 professions, And in hard mode the mesmer enemies ARE very much spamming ether feast, to eat your energy up, No joke, we were fighting oh god the stupid plant things outside ToA my alliance in a vanquish and every one of the players was ether feasted into no energy, nobody could phys attack because of clumsiness spam, we didn't party wipe on that group, but as soon as we hit greves and HIS group all of whom ended up being secondary mesmers, we had some issues. Anet killed 4040 sets, so monks can only cast 25% faster now, and that is hardly enough to counteract hexes on such a large scale, then add in all the spell slowing skills, which causes a lot of slow speed times which is even worse for hex removal, they really over did this update thats just the way it is, I think that mesmers really need to be toned down. Since I cannot play the game, I post here how idiotic is that? be a caster < because phys attacks just don't cut it anymore. Rogueonion 19:07, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Ah, pve. My advice would be to tank and spank, anywhere and everywhere. Anyway, I was under the impression that the cap didn't affect 40/40 sets. -- Tha Reckoning 19:11, 4 June 2010 (UTC)


 * seems to me cap affects 40/40 sets, I have used a 40/40 on my monk for ages and I no longer benefit from it, Rogueonion 19:14, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Alas though I digress here into mesmer talk when we should be talking about paragons, I have legendary survivor on my para, that was fun, but alas after buying/capping all skills, I realize most of them are crap. Rogueonion 19:17, 4 June 2010 (UTC)


 * and after some careful thought, I posted this in response to someone questioning the 12 second recharge on most mesmer skills...

if you read the fast casting update you will notice that every rank of it reduceds recharge by 3% making all mesmer skills at max fast casting spammable skills, which in my opinion is WHY the update needs to be retested from the perspective of other classes, there is no getting out from under hexes now, you can bring all the hex removal in the world but BECAUSE they now insta recharge, they reapply them pretty much instantly as well, <I mean... really... do the math... Rogueonion 19:43, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * There aren't as many mesmer monsters in PvE, and the spell recharge doesn't work in PvP. What's the problem? You get Empathy, you stop attacking, no biggie. Mith[[Image:User MithranArkanere Star.png]]Talk 13:08, 14 June 2010 (UTC)


 * LOL you dont fight mesmers in PVE? what 3 zones do you go to on a regular basis? I see mesmer monsters EVERYWHERE that I go. Rogueonion 18:03, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Not all of them have Empathy. Mith[[Image:User MithranArkanere Star.png]]Talk 18:38, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Mith you are correct the ones that usually do not have empathy to spam have clumsiness to spam instead=) Rogueonion 09:10, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Discord, sabway, smitemonks, SY!, proper hex removal, good pulling, good playing and not caring about PvE all popped in to say HAI 79.203.68.58 16:44, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Update 25/11/2010
There was an update about 10 hours ago, is there some note regarding this? Erebo85 15:37, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Stéphane posted a description of the update on guru. http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/lack-update-info-t10460449.html?p=5317164#post5317164 . Can someone add it to the page? Darcy 19:34, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Done. --Silver Edge 19:54, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Update
This is what happens when you don't update the page fast enough. Remember that people actually playing the game want to know what's changed. Rolain1 02:12, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * If by that you mean, get updatin' yer pages or we'll vandalize the heck out of you, I'm sorry, but we don't negotiate with terrorists. Everyone is free to add whatever was changed in this update to the update page. Or was, 'till they started vandalizing and I protected it. &mdash; Why [[Image:User Why s.png|User talk:Why]] 02:48, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm sure your e=peen is now huge from your awesome prot skills. But the point is that if you don't update a page when anyone who still plays this game is on this page, don't be surprised when people do frankly hilarious shit. More to the point, you're a wiki user for a 5 year old MMO, not someone in government. Please grow the hell up. Mmkay? Rolain1 03:01, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * As I said, people who still play this game are free to update pages. I just happened to stumble across vandalism. Thanks for your contributions. &mdash; Why [[Image:User Why s.png|User talk:Why]] 03:06, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Wait, you're vandalizing for shits and giggles and your response to "stop or jail/ban/prot" is "grow up"? -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 07:45, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Nope, I didn't vandalise anything. Check the update page history before making your ridiculous accusations. Also,  this is a pretty good update  Rolain1 21:03, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Condoning/encouraging* -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 02:17, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Embark Beach and Map From Guild Hall
Not showing up on map unless you actually hit map at Great Temple of Balthazar. Is it supposed to be that way? --VintageRose 22:10, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * To unlock the outpost, you must either visit a port town or get there by talking to a Zaishen Scout. If you simple go to the guild hall without doing any of those two, it won't appear in the Battle Isles map. Mith[[Image:User MithranArkanere Star.png]]Talk 04:56, 6 March 2011 (UTC)