User talk:Pling/Archive box/2008 May-Jun

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Templates
So just wondering how does one go about making a template and how does one know if its even worth being a template? I probably should give more info than that. I have basically bastardized the elite skill page coding and modified it to my own uses to serve as my skill capture page. Now the only other template i could find on this was very awkward to use and not very user friendly or pretty and I think that my adapted page is better than it, however I'm not sure if their is any point in making it a template for others to use and even if there was a point, I'm unsure how to go about making it so. The page can be seen here and your comments would be greatly appreciated. -- Salome 00:16, 1 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey Salome! You can get basic instructions on creating a Template here. I have also created an Elite skills template here that is fairly easy to use. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png |Go to Wynthyst's Talk page]] Wynthyst 00:24, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh cool wyn, thank you kindly. -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 00:25, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * The best ways of learning template syntax would be to either read it straight from a manual (the help pages on this wiki and Meta) or look at existing templates and modify for yourself. Once you know the simple stuff, it's fairly easy to use it for your own template. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|15px|Pling! \]] Brains12 \ Talk 15:10, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Galil
Matey do you know if Galil is alright or not? As not seen him in ages and just a bit worried about him. -- Salome 15:26, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * No, unfortunately he hasn't been on since around April 4. If I remember correctly, he had been a little busy with exams and essays, so perhaps he has taken a wiki-break until they are over. It may be worth asking Helena as she knows him in "real life". --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|15px|Pling! \]] Brains12 \ Talk 15:33, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Or Anja since if I remember right they are sisters and Helena hasn't been too active lately. -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 15:37, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, however I'm not sure if Anja knows him as well as Helena does. Would still be a good idea asking her though. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|15px|Pling! \]] Brains12 \ Talk 15:39, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I've asked Helena before and I think this is a "normal pattern" for Galil :P He loses interest/gets busy and comes back later :) - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 16:03, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * lol :D poke | talk 16:04, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL, glad to hear it, was worried about him. -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 16:12, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Well it was a bit weird since as far as I can remember this is the first time he has done it on the wiki. -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 16:26, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I think Brains "got rid" of him...... -- Shadowphoenix  [[Image:User Shadowphoenix Necromancer.png|19x19px|Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-;]] 16:51, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Your face "got rid" of him...... (D)
 * But maybe I should login as him sometimes... oops! poke | talk 17:42, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * ZOMG ADMINZ NPA BANNZHAMMER NOWz Special:Blockip/Poke -- Shadowphoenix  [[Image:User Shadowphoenix Necromancer.png|19x19px|Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-;]] 17:44, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Hahaha, I knew you were Galil! :P --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|15px|Pling! \]] Brains12 \ Talk 20:03, 1 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry, it was my turn to log in as Galil and I kinda forgot. That's why poke didn't. -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png| ]] 09:26, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * shht! There is no need for them to know that! poke | talk 13:59, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I bet you there's only actually Aberrant, Anja, Brains and Poke running about on this wiki and all the rest are just their admin sockpuppet accounts. Bad Admins, Bad! *waves rolled up newspaper in threatening manner* -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 14:36, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Almost right. It's just me, really. - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 14:52, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL, its okay out of the members theirs only Me, Auron and Helena. Everyone else is just a figment of our twisted imagination. 10,000 users and yet it's only the 4 of us on the wiki! woohoo us! Now to overtthrow anet and then rule the world *evil cakkle* -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 15:27, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Why do you think Checkuser was rejected? :P --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|15px|Pling! \]] Brains12 \ Talk 15:29, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

@salome, if u rule the world, can i have waffles?--Sum Mesmer Guy contribs 15:32, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL @ brains & Sum. Sum, You can always have my waffles, but as you are a figment of my imagination, you can only have imaginary waffles. :) -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 15:34, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * The main purpose of sock "poke" and the sock's sock "Galil" is only to hide the ultimate coding knowledge of me (Anja). poke | talk 16:42, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I feel rejected... :p Calor  [[Image:User_Calor_Sig.png|19px|Talk]] 19:41, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * That's because you don't exist! Muahaha --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|15px|Pling! \]] Brains12 \ Talk 19:47, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Someone else make this IP appear in the edit history or I exist :D -Calor 72.93.102.16 19:49, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm... a Swedish IP. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|15px|Pling! \]] Brains12 \ Talk 20:00, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * American. Calor  [[Image:User_Calor_Sig.png|19px|Talk]] 20:05, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Bad Anja, get off the Calor sockpuppet, we know its you. -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 20:09, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * admit it, salome, you're yourself only one of anja's sockpuppet and she's trying to fool us big time. - Y0_ ich_halt  [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 20:26, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * But remember: us = Anja! poke | talk 20:31, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * now i get it! this whole wiki is anja! wait, that means i'm alone here with her. or am i her, too? - Y0_ ich_halt  [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 20:38, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Am i the only one with an urge to say "you will be assimiliated!", or is that Anja talking? -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 21:33, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * *whistles* *moves on* - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 21:56, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * woah, anja is a huge super-frickn uber boss :OOO - Y0_ ich_halt  [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 22:02, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Well I am not Anja >.> but we know that anja is really Gaile Gray anyway -- Shadowphoenix  [[Image:User Shadowphoenix Necromancer.png|19x19px|Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-;]] 22:04, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Well all I can say is that Brains and I figured Anja did seem to be controlling me in the above droks (explorable) section, near the end of that convo. -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 22:08, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) she always did, you just never noticed before :P and she's possessing you, too shadow! you just haven't noticed yet either... - Y0_ ich_halt  22:11, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh. As you were about to consult me in this matter, I can tell you: Yes, he does this all the time, and it annoys me as much every time. He'll probably be back in a month or so, I would guess he's busy with school right now. Or he didn't want to stay as he regrets too much that he let me pwn him on Guitar Hero III. - [[Image:User-Helena-sig.png|talk]] helena  22:27, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Do you confirm or decline that Anja is in fact everyone? *sticks a mic in Helena's face* -- Shadowphoenix  [[Image:User Shadowphoenix Necromancer.png|19x19px|Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-;]] 22:29, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Anja can't be everyone, because of this: I wiggle my toes, therefore I exist. -- Mini Me  [[Image:User Mini Me sig.png|19px|talk]] 22:37, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Cogito, ergo sum. - Y0_ ich_halt  [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 22:41, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * You could always try using Special:Emailuser/Galil if you're ever wondering where a user is and Shadowphoenix, Anja isn't Gaile...Dirigible is. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  貢  23:26, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * And Dir is Anja's brother which also explains why Gaile is Anja's brother as well. poke | talk 23:27, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * My head hurts! which therefore must mean Anja's head hurts -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 23:31, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * No, since your head hurts, that means Anja is absorbing your brain power somehow, which also directly affect Brains12 somehow. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  貢  23:33, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * O RLY?! --[[Image:User People of Antioch sig.png|Talk]] People of Antioch 00:25, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Omg. Shadowphoenix, I decline, as I'd like to be a separate human being myself :P - [[Image:User-Helena-sig.png|talk]] helena  07:11, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * A likely story..... Anja says what? -- Shadowphoenix  [[Image:User Shadowphoenix Necromancer.png|19x19px|Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-;]] 08:11, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * i'm now confused...--Sum Mesmer Guy[[Image:User sum mesmer guy signiture.png‎|19px|Talk to me NOW!! DO IT!]] contribs 10:55, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Guild Page
Hey Brains as you're on, can you have a look at the guild page for Mortem_Ferentes as the sidebar seems to be going into the content. By the looks of it it is missing an end tag for the first table and I know this has happened another guild page but have no idea how to fix it or where to place the tag. -- Kakarot  13:27, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I've fixed it. -- Mini Me  [[Image:User Mini Me sig.png|19px|talk]] 13:43, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Guild Cape Image-Amantis
Thanks, sorry. delete Image:Guild Keepers Of Heavens Gate cape2.jpg I guess. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Amantis (talk &bull; contribs) at 01:43, May 4, 2008 (UTC).
 * Done :) -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 02:32, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|15px|Pling! \]] Brains12 \ Talk 14:30, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Pre-defined delete reasons
Since making the fix Poke mentioned to these have you noticed any problems? I meant to ask before now but I completely forgot all about it :/ -- Kakarot  16:34, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Nope, I've edited the reasons since his fix. If you still have problems, you might want to check for differences between the two. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|15px|Pling! \]] Brains12 \ Talk 16:36, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, haven't added them to my page yet and since I just remembered I figured I'd ask first :) -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 16:38, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

yesterday
CATS! - Y0_ ich_halt  10:05, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * miaow --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|15px|Pling! \]] Brains12 \ Talk 14:12, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Crsd ngl is gonna keel u for being a kitten --[[Image:User_rayd_sig.png]]‎ Rayd 14:42, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * i keel him! - Y0_ ich_halt  [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 15:52, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Vandals
Damn every time I go to block a vandal you've already done it ... vandal stalker =P -- Kakarot  23:55, 7 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Same here (but reverting not blocking), brains is to fast...<font color="limegreen" size="2px">Dominator <font color="mediumblue" size="1px">Matrix  23:56, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I have to get going soon, so if you could stay online for a little while longer, that would be great. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|15px|Pling! \]] Brains12 \ Talk 00:01, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Maybe he needs to be blocked for excessive blocking a la Poke =P -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 00:04, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Jesus that 219.93.175.67 is on a massive vandalism rampage right now.[[Image:User Xxx Corn Xxx sig.png]]Xxx Corn Xxx 00:21, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Nice block, but you no he's comin' back for more.[[Image:User Xxx Corn Xxx sig.png]]Xxx Corn Xxx 00:24, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Ignore it. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|15px|Pling! \]] Brains12 \ Talk 00:24, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

re: my "racism"
I quote: "Regardless of whether you think they are racist or not" <- the dictionary agrees with me. "I'm sure you're capable of requesting same-language PvP without the remarks on baguettes and love-making." <- yes, but where would the fun be in that? I'll write a note in boring, non-offensive language, in a minute. - The larry 20:31, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Background image
Where was it taken? Looks like it was from HA to me. I wouldn't know, because I only GvG. Napalm Flame 12:05, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * It's concept art from the GW website - http://www.guildwars.com/products/guildwars/gallery/concept/concept014.php --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|Pling! \]] Brains12 12:11, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Ooh, so that's why I never recognise it from anything. Napalm Flame 12:19, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

EC
hehe sorry :P -- Shadowphoenix   22:24, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * No problemo; I would have otherwise left your comment without mine, but I was adding something to the instructions :P --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|Pling! \]] Brains12 22:33, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

GWW:SIGN
Hi Brains, please sign your comments on talk pages using either ~ or the second last button on the edit toolbar =P  -- Kakarot   22:48, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL! poke | talk 22:49, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * /shoo
 * Thanks for the edit conflict :/ &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Brains12 (talk &bull; contribs) at 22:50, 14 May 2008 (UTC).
 * Your face is an edit conflict! xD poke | talk 22:51, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I've been waiting to use this on Eloc if he forgets to sign when he posts the same message on IP addresses talk pages but so far no luck :( -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 22:54, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I almost got Eloc the other day, but he added his sig right about the same time I posted it on his talk page =/. Mohnzh   say   what?  15:55, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Hey Brains, about the sig change: either I must be really stupid, or I misunderstood. If you click on my signature you go to my user page, so I think that part is OK; however what do you mean by re-uploading my picture.. its a pic I found here:, could so clarify what you mean please? - King Bazaah 15:46, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * click the image to go to that image's page. then right-click it and pick "save as..." to download it. now, click "upload file" (left navigation), browse for the image and enter in the "name" field: "User King Bazaah (signature or something)". now click "upload". the result: you have exactly the same image under a different name on this wiki. now put  on the image page, so when people click it they get to your user page instead. put that image (Image:User King Bazaah sig.jpg) in your signature and you're done. - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 16:01, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, thanks Y0 --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 16:32, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * +1 :P poke | talk 16:58, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * This looking better? King Bazaah [[Image:User_King_Bazaah_sig.png]] 13:52, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
 * perfect :D - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 14:09, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Images
Hello Brains12, one or more of the images you have recently uploaded have not been named properly as per our image policy. It says that images that are uploaded for use in the User namespace need to be named in the following format: User <User name>. . For example, User Brains12 fail.jpg.

Reading and filling out the upload form will help you a lot with naming and tagging images, so I recommend you take your time when uploading an image. Thanks. Calor  22:51, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

levae me aloen pls


-- Brains12 22:58, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * That a response to the 2 topics above this? &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  01:47, 15 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I would say yes. As that is anoying...in all. <font color="limegreen" size="2px">Dominator <font color="mediumblue" size="1px">Matrix  01:48, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Dominator, it is all in good fun kk.... -- Shadowphoenix  [[Image:User Shadowphoenix Necromancer.png|19x19px|Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-;]] 02:15, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually the one I did, GWW:SIGN is a legitimate message XD -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 02:48, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Your page
doesn't look very good. Take the picture at a higher resolution, or take a bigger picture. Or both. Calor  00:24, 17 May 2008 (UTC)


 * There not that bad. And it looks nice :) <font color="limegreen" size="2px">Dominator <font color="mediumblue" size="1px">Matrix  05:50, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Picture seems fine now. Nice colors too, btw. Calor  [[Image:User_Calor_Sig.png|19px|Talk]] 16:20, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Ach....
Thanks. I knew I screwed something up in formatting that page. --  Wandering Traveler  19:51, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh. no problem. Did you see the formatting guidelines? It'll help you with .. well, formatting :) --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|Pling! \]] Brains12 19:53, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I was actually looking at that, but only looked at how to create the NPC infobox. I'll have to read that over more carefully next time.... --[[Image:User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png]]  Wandering Traveler  19:54, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * u can read? i envy u...--Sum Mesmer Guy[[Image:User sum mesmer guy signiture.png‎|19px|Talk to me NOW!! DO IT!]] contribs 20:07, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Request: to revert a page/article
Hey can you revert Facet of Spirit back to where I last edited it because this guy User:HeWhoIsPale mess it up. I left a message on his talk page on how he mess up 2 days ago, and since I don't know how to revert articles I thought I'll let you be the one to do it.--Ridz16 03:40, 18 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Done :). In the mean time you can use the history to revert changes. 68.151.27.108 03:48, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I can get to history part but then what next?--Ridz16 03:49, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Click undo beside the last person who edited its name, then click save page, and thats all there is to it :o) -- Shadowphoenix  [[Image:User Shadowphoenix Necromancer.png|19x19px|Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-;]] 06:47, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * More info at Help:Reverting. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 12:01, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Rude much?
"begging does not constitute "community news""; I was not begging for anything. The donations are for a contest which will be hosted by the [GOD] alliance, the donations are not for me. That was very rude on your part. If you did not agree with it being there, you could have put; "maybe you should wait until the contest is launched", or something to the like. -- Shadowphoenix   18:14, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * In any case, if it is done as an in-game activity (even if GWW related), you may want to create a proper CME article instead of using the community news section for it.--Fighterdoken 18:20, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, but it is not going to be a huge event for the entire GW community, it is mostly going to be for GWW users since the submission will be posted here on GWW. That is why I decided not to make CME article for it.  -- Shadowphoenix   [[Image:User Shadowphoenix Necromancer.png|19x19px|Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-;]] 18:22, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * For some of your things a fansite forum would be a lot more suited. Please don't forget that we are here to document the wiki game. poke | talk 18:23, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * ....I thought we decided a while back that the community news section was for things likeGWW:BDAY and The horn, etc. -- Shadowphoenix   [[Image:User Shadowphoenix Necromancer.png|19x19px|Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-;]] 18:24, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * That doesn't change the fact that you are starting things which simply does not belong to a wiki. poke | talk 18:28, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * You know what I give up, do what you will.... There is no pleasing anyone -- Shadowphoenix  [[Image:User Shadowphoenix Necromancer.png|19x19px|Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-;]] 18:31, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Community news, yes, not asking for donations to fund an in-game project of yours. I would think enough users watch your talk page that you don't need to plaster it on the community portal. Even better, contact people ingame if they want to give you stuff. That's what guilds are for.
 * My patience runs low. People need to stop wasting time and being so sensitive. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 18:32, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * not to cause any more issues, but what constitutes news? -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 18:42, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * New bcrats, big new policy change, new admins, new wiki, new content and we need to document it, etc. Not community projects. Calor  [[Image:User_Calor_Sig.png|19px|Talk]] 18:43, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, was just wondering that was all. -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 18:45, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * community projects are fine, as long as they belong on a wiki (as GWW:BDAY does). poke | talk 18:46, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Poke. I forgot to elaborate on that, as some community projects are theoretically allowed on the page. Calor  [[Image:User_Calor_Sig.png|19px|Talk]] 18:47, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

To be fair, Shadowphoenix, other community events such as Cinco de Mayo and Oktoberfest have only ever gotten a wiki page with a tag stating the event was a community organized one, so I don't see why the event for [GOD] should get special treatment. Why not just create an event page on the wiki? Kokuou 18:52, 20 May 2008 (UTC)


 * @ Calor, thats because they where not officially seen as events. Plus no wiki page was needed at the time. @ Brains In need of a wiki break also? @ SP. Lifes life, not everything will get accepted. Just got to move on to the next project. If something bothers you, let it go...unless its always going on. <font color="limegreen" size="2px">Dominator <font color="mediumblue" size="1px">Matrix  07:36, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

One More Question
I recently created the articles for the Anguished Souls. I've got two questions about that. 1: was it ok that I used the image of a Spirit of Shelter? I know for a fact they share the same appearence, but I'm wondering if a true authentic picture is needed. Second, I added a bit of info into Anguished Souls, but I'm not sure what it would exactly fall under. right now, its an NPC stub with a list of the spirits, but I'm not sure how to expand on that (and yes, I've read formatting, no luck yet :P). If you can look into those, that'd be nice. I just want to make sure I didnt screw anything up again. --  Wandering Traveler  18:39, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * If it is simply a list of all types of Anguished Souls, make it a disambiguation page with disambig and a list of the spirits; something like the Seborhin Pest page. If they are not Angushed Souls, but simply related, leave it as an NPC stub for expansion (i.e. as it is now). --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 18:47, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Makes sense to me. I'll see what I can do with it. Thanks. --[[Image:User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png]]  Wandering Traveler  18:51, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

"Why are we letting a couple of words delay this for so long?"
Because of the difficulty of changing anything once it has been committed to policy in our current state, there's a huge impetus to not let something be committed until every last problem is worked out. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 15:43, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Draft B has received positive responses and "gogos" from, as I said, everyone but Backsword. When the change is as little as how something is logged, and when it would be extremely rare for something needing logging, it slows down what would be a huge achievement in getting that policy accepted. The outlook on draft E has been apathetic so far, so I can't help thinking that it would be better to implement B and then work out the minute detail that is the logging of a rare occurrence. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 15:53, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, I agree, I was just providing an answer to your question. :) [[Image:User Aiiane-a.gif|Go to Aiiane's Talk page]] (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 16:13, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

switch "Orders" with "Order"?
i just tried to rework the article a bit and wanted to add "Orders" as redirect to "Order" afterwards, but you were faster than me :P Yet shouldn't articles use singular forms instead? &mdash;Zerpha The Improver 11:56, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah sorry, I should have let you finish. If you wanted to rework it as a build-type article, it should be Orders because it usually has to work with a set of them; if it's a descriptive article about what an "Order" is, then it should be Order. I assumed you created the Order page because you weren't aware of the Orders page, seeing as it wasn't moved but created from scratch instead. Sorry :P --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 13:54, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * nah, np. I also didn't know that the Orders page is treated as build - since it does at least currently not seem to be focused on that, and rather on the skill lists. (As i already somewhere noticed once, i'd prefer a "warning message" for build pages. &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 19:11, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Not really sure, so I guess you should go ahead and do what you were originally going to do :/ --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 19:15, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I was going to switch these two articles now as it didn't look like a build in my eyes, but Murex changed the Order article now to a disambig. This should be ok for now. &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 02:39, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

LOL
Look at the deletion log for LOL, we performed a simultaneous deletion. -- Kakarot  21:19, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Then it got tagged. :P <font color="#DD2200">Lord Belar 21:20, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * It was indeed "LOL", considering DE tagged it just after as well :P --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 21:21, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah just saw that, wonder if Poke could implement a change to GWWT so that if a page was deleted it would go back to the edit page similar to how an edit conflict does. -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 21:28, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I can sympathize with DE... Back to work, Poke! :P Calor  [[Image:User_Calor_Sig.png|19px|Talk]] 21:31, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * GWWT doesn't prevent edit conflicts :P poke | talk 21:33, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * huh Poke? What I meant is that if the page gets deleted before the person tags it it goes back to the edit page in a similar way that when a normal edit gets an edit conflict it goes back to the edit page with a message saying there was an edit conflict. -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 15:56, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * When you tag a page and it is deleted, before you press tag&save, then you recreate the page :P poke | talk 19:06, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Suppose that's exactly what Kakarot proposed to change :P &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 19:15, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

hehe
"Tip: Don't rightclick on the image and select "Set as Background."", lol I didnt do that :P still funny though -- Shadowphoenix   15:54, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

"as ingame"
Wasn't the previous one the concise description? &mdash;Zerpha The Improver 12:23, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Traditional - While suffering from this condition, you deal less damage with attacks and all of your attributes are reduced by 1. Concise - You deal 66% less damage with attacks and your attributes are reduced by 1. Do we go with the traditional or concise for the condition in-game description? --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 14:53, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Better would be both :P poke | talk 14:56, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * yeah, we could do it with the conditions just like we do it with skills. The concise description for conditions is most often even more useful than the regular one. &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 02:30, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

so i herd ur just active in the "muddy" gwguru thread?
After having read the thread i actually rly think this is only a fake. I also noticed that the icon was noticeable popping out of its trade spot...Though this icon really looks like an original-sized version of Smurf's previous little upload as seen at artistans. &mdash;Zerpha The Improver 02:30, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm, it may seem credible, yet as you say, it's popping out of the slot -- does that happen with any other items? The image could probably stay on the article until we know for sure that it's a fake. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 02:34, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * At least they normally don't pop out of the slot as much as the Clay Brick does. They nearly overlap a bit. &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 02:40, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * If you say it's noticeably similar to Smurf's icon, then I would be content with leaving it. Perhaps it's just a fake of the actual icon put into the trade window, and not of the icon itself. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 02:43, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * yeah, i also thought of that. It is either a nicely resized image, or he was also able to extract a 64x64px icon and simply copy-pasted it into the trade screenshot. &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 02:47, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Either way, it serves its purpose on the article ^^ --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 02:51, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * That it does lol, but I still wonder if it is not a fake... hmmm King Bazaah [[Image:User_King_Bazaah_sig.png]] 13:17, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Not stackable items -> non-stackable items
You once told me that you'd prefer the old category name again. You posted your proposal there and meant you will wait a bit longer. In case you forgot about that again, i think you waited long enough now and can change the category name back if you want. :P &mdash;Zerpha The Improver 17:08, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Well the rest of the people involved in the discussion preferred "not stackable", so I think I'll bump it instead of deciding against them :) --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 17:13, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * "Non-stackable" is the proper form. [[Image:User Aiiane-a.gif|Go to Aiiane's Talk page]] (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 17:30, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Layout
I've been trying to get your user info layout to work for me, but the way wiki works with HTML is so ... weird I cant figure anything out!! Arg. How do i change the color of the backgrounds and all the test you wrote??? &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by MechanicalMedusa (talk &bull; contribs) at 18:45, 31 May 2008 (UTC).
 * Hey there. Well you first need a little knowledge in how wikicode works, including templates, so I suggest you read Help:Editing and go to some of the links at the bottom of that page too.
 * My table code comes from User:Brains12/Table - you could copy that to User:MechanicalMedusa/Table and then change the code to suit your needs. The text that I wrote comes from User:Brains12/Userpage2; however, the code there is a little more confusing, and it's pretty redundant as well - what you could do is this: on my main page, User:Brains12, you'll see . To add in text for yourself on your own main userpage, just replace the   code with whatever you want it to say. So, for example,.
 * This might be a little confusing, so I would suggest either taking time to learn the various wiki code or experimenting on your own page. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 20:49, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Speaking of which, think you could fix this thing here? ;p Halogod35 [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|18px]] 21:00, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * What needs fixing? --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 21:04, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * It just needs to work, I'm testing it out on my sandbox and it doesn't work correctly. Halogod35 [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|18px]] 21:09, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, it was a conflict of unnamed parameters that was the problem (I think). I fixed it at User:Brains12/Sandbox/PvX, so just copy that code into your PvX template and it should work -- just a note though, the parameters for the professions, attributes and attribute values are now named, so you would want to copy the usage notes too. You can see both templates in action at User:Brains12/Sandbox -- yours is the Stuff 1, mine is the Stuff 2. :) --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 21:30, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm, does all 5 att's have to be in use? Halogod35 [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|18px]] 21:47, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Nope, and you don't need more than one profession either. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 21:50, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Alright then, I give you some credit :3 Halogod35 [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|18px]] 21:51, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. I've also been looking for how to do those navigation strips... do you know what im talking about? Kind of like what you have on the top, with the different links to your other pages, and it fits in perfectly with your table. This guy has the same thing ---> http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User:Warior_kronos/Rago_Kindelrock Is there any way to get that for my page http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User:MechanicalMedusa I gave up and just made an image, hope it shows up. Thanks again --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:MechanicalMedusa (talk).
 * Well, I don't have any personal experience with that kind of navbar, but learning an amount of wikicode or just experimenting will help you lots :) --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 00:21, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Like it did for me. :D Halogod35 [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|18px]] 00:23, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Omg brains, I suck. Could you make a couple more fixes to the Template?
 * I need the extra "If you want solid, the border becomes solid" thing removed.
 * A bar that goes across, on the bottom of the skill bar, for Template Code.
 * Another bar under that for the Equipment code.
 * Also, they must be optional.
 * And.. uhh. That's about it.

That would be a great help. :D Halogod35  01:55, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not quite sure what you mean for the first bullet, and it's a little late for me to be looking through all that code (3.40 am :P), so I didn't do that. I added the extra bars, but they don't quite work when I put the optional thingy around it... I might give it another try tomorrow or perhaps Y0 can fix it - he's more experienced with user templates and stuff like this :P. Sorry --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 02:39, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey no problem, at least you did a couple of things. :D Halogod35 [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|18px]] 02:49, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * i'll take a look at it, but things are way easier to handle with parser functions if it's just wikicode. - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 11:35, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

=June=

Guild Wars Wiki:List of administrators
* shoots Brains* :P -- Kakarot  15:27, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Speed
"Seems to think Glacial Gauntlets really needs unnecessary info. --Chaiyo Kaldor talk contribs 17:00, 3 June 2008 (UTC) Blocked. -- Brains12 \ talk 17:01, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * And the block was at 17:00, 3 June 2008 UTC as well. No chance for other sysops =P --Xeeron 17:08, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * One minute between blocking and reporting? Man, I'm losing my touch... --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 17:16, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

*peng*
poke | talk 18:01, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ping -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 18:04, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ehh? --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 18:05, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I just shot you. poke | talk 18:08, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh. Normally, the sound of being shot makes a "blam" sound or something... --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 18:08, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Does this have anything to do with the edit to Guild Wars Wiki:List of administrators? -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 18:11, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) A german pistol makes "peng"; "blam" is more the sound of an exploding head :P poke | talk 18:12, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * or wait, that would be *splädder!* poke | talk 18:12, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, Poke is just blind. He also ignores anything added during an edit conflict. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 18:12, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * He also forgets to sign properly =D -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 18:14, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I just didn't want to comment on Kakarot's edit, Pling :P And Kakarot, I wanted you to guess who it wrote *lies*
 * Whatever, I'm going now :P cya later ^^ poke | talk 18:19, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yay for bad indenting? Bye :P --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 18:21, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

thanx
very much, im going to avoid the wiki for a while (Raph)--167.142.168.14 02:38, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the page tweak :) Zilken 17:13, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Userpage
Hey, just curious if you remember where in GW you took the screenshot for your monk.. I only know of a couple places in game that have a waterfall, but none that I got that great of a picture from. I wanna find some nice background Images for my characters ^_^. | Foul Bane | 02:50, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It's in the Tarnished Haven behind/near Kerrsh, if I remember correctly. I stumbled upon it by coincidence -- I was doing a few quests there, got bored and so I ran around the outpost (as you do) and I stood near the waterfall. Took a screenshot (again, because of boredom, and also because it looked nice :P). --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 02:54, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The paragon image was just outside House zu Heltzer - not as nice, though.. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 02:55, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok tyvm.. Side note: that sux it's in EOTN... I hate trying to progress through it ;-(. | Foul Bane | 02:58, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I agree. However, once you're through the major points, you get access to what are, in my opinion, some of the best looking areas in Guild Wars. Before EotN, Vabbi or Presearing were probably my favourite areas in terms of appearance, but anything in the Charr Homelands or the Tarnished Coast trumps it by far. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 03:02, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Eh...
Forgive my curiosity, but I'm just simply confused here. I just saw Raphs block listed here labled as "User Request". I remembered back to a time when another person (topic #4 on the contents list) asked for the same thing, and was denied. This is definitely not my place, and I probably shouldnt be asking.....but why the differences? Why was one accepted while the other declined? I'm sorry, I'm just really confused on this wiki these days... ~  Wandering Traveler  02:59, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The personal opinions and preferences of admins differ -- I would personally not have a problem with user request blocking (but generally after taking yourself away has failed). I also don't like to counteract other sysops' actions unless absolutely necessary (I don't believe I've reverted one yet). In addition to this, Raph's actions recently have not been very favourable so this swayed my decision a little -- I wouldn't have blocked for those unfavourable reasons alone, but I guess it's win-win if he requests to be blocked as well. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 03:09, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, I see your point. Sorry, things here have been really confusing lately.... ~[[Image:User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png]]  Wandering Traveler  03:10, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 03:11, 4 June 2008 (UTC)


 * well, im unblocked now. Thanks for the temp ban. Im still going to avoid the wiki, and i wont contribute other than to minor things. Also, i read my block on my ip, saying "malicious use of alternate account", i did not fully understand mgrinshpons Arbcomm, ("i didnt read the fine print"), for disturbing the noticeboard, i apologize.--[[Image:User_Raph_Sig.png|19px]]<font color="Blue">Ra <font color="Orange">ph  <font color="Blue">Tal <font color="Orange">ky  13:32, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem, it's not expected that everyone knows everything. Also, the ban on your IP was because you used it for personal attacks, and seeing as you asked to be banned anyway... --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 13:37, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

good point, though, that night i was "jacked up on mountain dew (literaly)", to quote taladega nights, think i might've needen to take a break--<font color="Blue">Ra <font color="Orange">ph  <font color="Blue">Tal <font color="Orange">ky  13:38, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

bot
you're labeled a bot? - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> 14:31, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * well, obviously we all know he's an evil robot admin...--Sum Mesmer Guy[[Image:User sum mesmer guy signiture.png‎|19px|Talk to me NOW!! DO IT!]] contribs 15:12, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Explained on Meta --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 15:24, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * metawiki sucks! - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 16:12, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Pfft, if I take a vacation from the wiki and come back to 500 orphans, 200 categorized images, and 700 inactive guild tags I'm gonna need that flag. --[[Image:User People of Antioch sig.png|Talk]] People of Antioch 00:20, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Well I suppose that just means more edits for you ;) &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  01:24, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * MOAR EDITZ! MOAR BLOCKINGZ! - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 12:20, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah Brains is most certainly an evil bot =P, btw who's going to make the Banhammer? King Bazaah [[Image:User_King_Bazaah_sig.png]] 13:02, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Jade Reapers
thanks for fixing this, i didn't exactly know what to do with this. :P &mdash;Zerpha The Improver 13:52, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hehe, no problem. The page just seemed to include guild information and how the members are going to have a huge party... it wasn't really for an event like the LaZy one a while ago or other Guild Wars community events. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 13:56, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism
Trying to do this quickly while working. Thanks for keeping an eye out. &mdash; Gares 14:54, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thx for the vandalism fix &mdash; Renuro Seru [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 15:10, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem, things seem to have been sorted. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 15:35, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yep, yep. Looks like about 4 admins came out of the woodwork when that happened. :P And Brains12, you are always around when I come on. GO OUTSIDE! lol &mdash; Gares 15:50, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Move error, I think
During this massive moving spree, I got told that User:ThorJH's talk page talk page couldnt be moved with the user page. It also told me the user page have to be merged manually. ....I'm confused by what it wants. ~  Wandering Traveler  15:09, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Got the same thing, may have something to do with the recent updats :S -- Shadowphoenix  [[Image:User Shadowphoenix Necromancer.png|19x19px|Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-;]] 15:10, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * They were reverted, so it's a moot point. It was probably because someone else moved it before you. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 15:11, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Makes sense. ~[[Image:User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png]]  Wandering Traveler  15:11, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism today
I looked through recent changes, holy crap... <font face="Papyrus">Devi Talk 15:36, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hehe I'm your culprit :p King Bazaah [[Image:User_King_Bazaah_sig.png]] 15:38, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Wantedpages / Bad Links / Bazaah
Hey, I was just reading where you said "Random redirects shouldn't be set up to appease the Wantedpages, the pages with those bad links on should be changed :)" over on talk:King Bazaah, and I'm curious. I checked the links-to on "English" and "GMT" and they're linked from random guild infoboxes. Should anyone be going in there and unlinking these things or is that something that only the people relevant to those guilds should do? (I think there's a policy or general assumption against editing other people's user: pages too, right?)

Oh, one more thing, I was just looking at the mediawiki docs to see if there was any way to make a link that dosn't trace backlinks for example purposes? Though I suppose you can also use. . . Special:WhatLinksHere/GMT. Thanks! --Star Weaver 17:13, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Guild pages can be edited for general maintenance, as they are supposed to be for documentation and don't have the same "rules" as user pages do -- if one were to take out the English and GMT links, that would be fine.
 * I'm not quite sure what you mean for your second section though, so maybe someone else can answer that for you. Plenty of Recentchanges vultures around. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 18:12, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I think they're asking if there's a way to link to a nonexistent page for example purposes, but not have it show up on Special:Wantedpages (since you don't actually want the page, it's just an example). [[Image:User Aiiane-a.gif|Go to Aiiane's Talk page]] (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 18:14, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Aye, that was it. I looked at the mediawiki docs briefly but didn't see anything useful for that. --Star Weaver 18:19, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * self:User:Poke <-- poke | talk 18:22, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * That's not really a red/non-existent link though... --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 18:22, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Ah, have noticed?
I think that this entire site has been vandalized. Could check this? try this page or this one. King Bazaah 23:19, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't see any problems with them... they don't seem to have been affected by the page move vandalism either. Can you elaborate on what's wrong with them? --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 23:21, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Huh? Both pages look fine, and there's no vandalism shown in RC. Calor  [[Image:User_Calor_Sig.png|19px|Talk]] 23:21, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * They have pornography on them!! thats whats wrong!!! King Bazaah [[Image:User_King_Bazaah_sig.png]] 23:29, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * That's on your end, then. Did you download anything from foreign porn sites recently? If so, start searching for new computers (and a good McAfee or Norton antivirus/antispyware program). Calor  [[Image:User_Calor_Sig.png|19px|Talk]] 23:30, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

backgrounds
dude really i just was about to move them and that i was just working on my page --The-Big-Cheese 23:37, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, sorry. Although I guess it doesn't really matter who did it, as long as it was moved. I'll wait a little longer if it happens another time, but if you follow the naming when creating the page, that would be better. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 23:43, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Question
I've recently been told that you blocked Oni for some stunt he pulled on Izzy's page.

Since it is 00:07 here, and I can't find any other trace of evidence of this said block, compounded with the fact that I am bored, leads to the conclusion that I should pester you about it.

So... did you really block oni? (not asking for some sort of Explanation here, a simple long answer - short answer section with pictures, power points and a cake would be fine) -- NUKLEAR   IIV  21:17, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Wait, nevermind. Problem solved. -- NUKLEAR  [[Image:User NuclearVII signature 3.jpg|19x19px]] IIV  21:19, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Special:Logs/block is your friend. ;) [[Image:User Aiiane-a.gif|Go to Aiiane's Talk page]] (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 21:45, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

btw
thnx for reverting that guy, couldnt figure it out--<font color="Blue">Ra <font color="Orange">ph  <font color="Blue">Tal <font color="Orange">ky  22:38, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Moving pages...
Would you say moved pages are vandalism outright? I've been fixing to put up the Y0's template up. :-) -- People of Antioch  03:25, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, sure, why not. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 22:02, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Nice block. Use of your template spammed?  At least they're creative. --[[Image:User People of Antioch sig.png|Talk]] People of Antioch  20:56, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Help with a new icon
Hey Plingggggg! I totally suck at icons, and the one I did Image:Award icon.png doesn't seem to meet with quality standards :P Any chance you could maybe do something better? (I asked poke as well, and he suggested you might want to)-- Wynthyst 12:22, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd like to give it a try.. but I'm so totally inadequate with icons. Unless you need a square or something? Cos I'm great at that! Anyway... I'll try something, but I'm sure Poke would be able to get it done much better and quicker. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 15:29, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * What do you think about [[Image:User Brains12 medal2.png]]? --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 15:53, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Personally I prefer your first one, the medal on that one looks a bit too big. -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 15:55, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Reuploaded that one under medal3. I'll need to redo a little of the medal2 because I messed up some of the nodes, but choose which one you prefer and I'll tune it up as necessary. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 16:03, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Meh, classic noob mistake.. I forgot to save the inkscape file, so it's either one of those two as they are now, or I'll have to remake it. :/ Or you could get Poke to do something else. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 18:13, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Image:Tango-award-icon.png? Simple but nice :P poke | talk 18:50, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * That's a little bit small for this... :P --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 18:54, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I noticed after I uploaded.. have a bigger one now :P poke | talk 19:01, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Broken redirects
Do we have any specific policy or guideline when dealing with broken redirects. There are a few here. -- People of Antioch 03:33, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Just keep Game link redirects and signature image redirects :) poke | talk 06:58, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Ok thanks for that and the links... :) Arty 02:10, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yea sorry about that last one, I was wondering why the link wasn't working... :P Arty 02:11, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem, glad to be of help. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 02:12, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Request
Could someone get me an image of the phoenix on Image:Guild-Logo.png? Preferably large, scalable would be even better. to anyone who can :D -- Brains12 \ talk 02:39, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Are you just looking for the phoenix in a white backround? I gave a shot at doing that a few weeks ago. Its about the same size as what the normal one is, but...meh, I can upload it if you want. o.o ~[[Image:User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png]]  Wandering Traveler  04:47, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Pling is stealing my idea o.O It would probably best to ask Bex about that. poke | talk 13:02, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Mwahaha. WT, I'm looking for one without a background at all -- just the phoenix itself. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 13:12, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmmm....I might have screwed up somewhere, but does [[Image:User Wandering Traveler Phoenix.png|This]] work? My editing skills are terrible, but meh, heres hoping >.< ~[[Image:User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png]]  Wandering Traveler  13:49, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It's a little rough around the edges and there are still the grey/black bits inside; I would need a clean image :/. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 13:51, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thought so >.<. I may be able to fix it, but....yeah, this is why I avoid artistic work. o.O ~[[Image:User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png]]  Wandering Traveler  13:53, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks though, it was much better than anything I attempted :P. I might go to Bex as she created that logo, but it's nothing urgent at the moment. I have a feeling that whatever idea Poke has for it will be better than mine, so I might leave it to him. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 13:55, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Meh, it was worth a shot. ^.^ ~[[Image:User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png]]  Wandering Traveler  13:57, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No no, Pling, just ask Bex :P (/lazymode on) poke | talk 23:56, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

I remember that it wasn't perfectly cut out, but because I shrunk it, it didn't matter so much. BTW I got it out of one of the fansite kits I think. :) I wonder if you could find it with the dat browser? - B ex  00:37, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll give that a go. Any idea where it would be? Calor  [[Image:User_Calor_Sig.png|19px|Talk]] 01:05, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I checked most ATEXDXT1 files now, they list a lot of mainly transperent white/greyblue whateverthingies, map pieces, the outpost images, cursor images and skill animations, but seemingly no guild cape emblems, so those can possibly be found in the ATEXDXT5 list... &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 15:30, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Wyn found it -- Image:Eagle cape icon.png (don't ask me why I said phoenix..). Thanks for all your help guys --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 15:40, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

(Deletion log); 14:23 . . Brains12 (Talk | contribs) (deleted "User:Lord of all tyria": U1: User request. Also: "redlinkredlinkredlink")
You have struck a blow in the campaign to make the redlink equally acceptable in society to the bluelink. History shall look kindly upon you. Lord of all tyria 14:26, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * mmkay. And thanks for ruining my TOC D: --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 14:28, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. Lord of all tyria 14:37, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Quote of the Win:
"Hi, I'm taking all your e-peens and throwing them into the blender." izzyland &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Star Weaver (talk &bull; contribs) at 15:30, 20 June 2008 (UTC).
 * Uh thanks? --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 16:40, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Just a good line. Sorry about the lack of sig. ^_^ --Star Weaver 17:24, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Ahem
I see all :P -- Kakarot  21:58, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * ohnoes :/. I liked the background bit, but not really the shape of the boxes :P --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 22:00, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I need to learn how to play with that code sometime. It's quite useful. --[[Image:User People of Antioch sig.png|Talk]] People of Antioch  22:02, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * CSS isn't too hard to learn, at least I didn't find it that difficult. As to my theme/skin/whatever Plingggggg you could always try using it without the rounded corners; assuming that's what you mean by "shape of the boxes". Also you'd have to change the icon for the personal toolbar to your own sig image although you might want to upload a lighter version of it because it looked a bit too dark using the present one. -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 22:26, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * CSS, HTML, and wiki can all be learned in <hour. Calor  [[Image:User_Calor_Sig.png|19px|Talk]] 22:52, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Should there be any order I go into? And if it's not too much, Calor, could you teach me a bit?  I'm still new at the first two, and I need a bit more time with Wiki code. --[[Image:User People of Antioch sig.png|Talk]] People of Antioch  23:57, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * "I see all :P" - You didn't see me trying your style out 8-) poke | talk 00:04, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd love too, but sadly, I'm going to a sort of family get-together this weekend, and won't be on the wiki until Monday. w3schools CSS tutorial and their HTML tutorial may help you a bit. As for wiki - screw it - just use HTML's div and span tags. Makes life a lot easier. Calor  [[Image:User_Calor_Sig.png|19px|Talk]] 00:29, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * "As for wiki - screw it - just use HTML's div and span tags." qft. If the wiki would now ignore line indents instead of making a pre out of it, it would be great.. poke | talk 00:53, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * If only Poke worked for MediaWiki... maybe we'd actually get something done here! --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 00:54, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * If only Poke worked... maybe we'd get something done here. And I totally agree about the screwy indenting. Calor  [[Image:User_Calor_Sig.png|19px|Talk]] 01:45, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL! poke | talk 11:37, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Archiving Talk Pages
I'm sure if you check recent changes you'll see my compleate misfortune at an attempt to archive my talk page. I archived everything to User:Primarch Horus/Archive1. Is that the right place to be putting it? Horus ~talk
 * The location you have it in there isn't wrong but normally talk page archives are kept in the user talk namespace, I can sort it out for you if you want :) -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 02:38, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd be very grateful. I'm getting very lost with all this! [[Image:Luxon.png|16px]] Horus ~talk

ty
for adding the colon. &mdash;Zerpha The Improver 19:27, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem; I was actually going to reply to WT's message too, but I got an edit conflict with you :P. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 19:29, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Delete, please
As I've all but left the wiki, you can delete the pages left over in my user namespace if you think it would save space. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Ebany Salmonderiel (talk).
 * You're leaving? :o If you want them deleted, I'll go ahead; it's not really a matter of saving space, but I guess if you're going, the pages may as well. Bye --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 14:55, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Question:
Where does it show the number of contributions a user has made? Or do I have to go through the list and count them up? | Foul Bane | 01:08, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * you have to count unfortunately. -- Salome [[Image:User_salome_sig.png|19px]] 02:19, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, Thanks. | Foul Bane | 02:27, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Poke made a javascript thingummy that counts the number of contributions sorted by namespace, but it only works for Firefox. See User:Poke/GWWT and scroll to the bottom. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 09:23, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Aww Brains you had to tell :( now people won't think I manually counted Ab.er's contribs. -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 12:29, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

<3
- anja   15:56, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Tango-heart-icon.png|<3|19px]] --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 15:58, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Tango-heart-icon.png|<3|38px]] [[Image:User Aiiane-a.gif|Go to Aiiane's Talk page]] (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 16:51, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Calor [[Image:User_Calor_Sig.png|19px|Talk]] 16:57, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * "The max should be 38"!!! --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 16:58, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Tango-heart-icon.png|<3|1px]]Backsword 16:59, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Tango-heart-icon.png|<3|76px]] [[Image:User Aiiane-a.gif|Go to Aiiane's Talk page]] (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 17:01, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Wow... those shadows really suck. WTB inkscape replacement, 50k --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 17:06, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Since you wanted me to "go on forever".....



The editor who added this comment gives permission to modify it at a later date to make it a less annoying size. >.>  (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 17:09, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ihatechoo [[Image:User Brains12 heart arrow icon.png]] --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 17:29, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * :( [[Image:User Aiiane-a.gif|Go to Aiiane's Talk page]] (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 17:31, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Free love if you tell me what I'm doing wrong here >_> Halogod35  02:16, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Want me to fix it? -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 02:17, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure. Halogod35 [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|15px]] 02:19, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * That should do it, tell me if you have any problems with it :) -- Kakarot [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 02:20, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks.  Halogod35 [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|15px]] 02:22, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Just noticed:
 * Wikichoo [[Image:User Brains12 heart arrow island icon.png]] poke | talk 10:14, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The feeling is mutual. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 10:19, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

.... -- Brains12 \ talk 18:09, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Koolaide
Oh durn. Is there a way to get a non-copyright protected version of koolaide? Like a different site or if I drew it myself? Or is Mr koolaide copyrighted- Warior Kronos  15:11, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I would assume that he's copyrighted, so you probably couldn't get a version of him on the wiki. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 15:16, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

what guild advertizement
its a link to build and runs --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Azwildbill (talk).
 * First of all, that article was about a location, not about a quest or faction farming -- links, tips and walkthroughs should go on the quest page or the Fast faction farming page. Secondly, the link you added was a link to a guild/personal website, not a documentation website; generally, only those links should go on articles, and not personal webpages.
 * Also, you can sign your comments by adding ~ at the end. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 19:47, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * This edit doesn't really belong there either -- as I said, it's a location article which includes a link to the faction farming article. Information about faction farming should go on the faction farming article, there's no need to include a link to various faction farming quests when the faction farming article has those links. That's the wonder of a wiki - you find one page, follow a link, find yourself with other links and you find out more -- it's not necessary to have that quest article linked unless you're linking it for the purpose to list quests available in that area. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 19:51, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

A little less
Why? Calor  22:59, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * A break away from some idiots on various wikis, mainly. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 23:06, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I see. Enjoy the real world. Calor  [[Image:User_Calor_Sig.png|19px|Talk]] 23:07, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Why thank you. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 23:08, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * That and my internet connection. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 23:09, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * But won't you miss this? (around 1:15) --[[Image:User People of Antioch sig.png|Talk]] People of Antioch 23:46, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

advise
As a sign of courtesy, also leave a message on the talk page of any other involved users so they are aware of this discussion.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Guild_Wars_Wiki:Arbitration_committee/Requests --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Azwildbill (talk).

Dispute
Brains I think that we are in dispute. We need to discuss on how to resolve our issue. As many people (and policy) have suggested I start here. <font color="limegreen" size="2px">Dominator <font color="mediumblue" size="1px">Matrix  10:37, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * What about starting with what this is about? Because I can't think of situations atm :P poke | talk 10:39, 27 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Well it started with me being reading . Which got me to thinking you needed a Arb com even before discussing, and for no valid reason either. I think what got me 'set off' was the edit you made on my talk page here. I saw it as rather rude, but after time realized you where just being blunt..which is nothing much. I think what got me to think any of this was needed is my belief that sysops should be nice and calm all the time. We all know that can't always be... This is pretty much a conflict of power. I tend to have a short temper towards people with higher amounts of rights then me. (which lead to the rather rude reply I left). So lets talk this over before I start a blog here <font color="limegreen" size="2px">Dominator <font color="mediumblue" size="1px">Matrix  10:50, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I appreciate talking to any user I may be in dispute with rather than skipping out three or four steps and going straight to arbitration, so I thank you for that. However, I don't see us in any dispute. My comment to your talk page was not intended to be rude, nor was it intended to be very blunt (a la Auron) -- I saw that you had edited a number of talk pages adding "==...==", which, as I said, may be misinterpreted later if someone else goes to that page without seeing that specific revision of yours. Also, editing other people's comments (e.g. correcting lots of typos on the same page), while it was with good intent, is still not generally accepted. If that came across as blunt, it's probably because I didn't throw in some flowery, I love you, let's go to the park and dance words; it's not necessary to do so either. Nor was my request based upon upon being a sysop -- make sure you understand that. Had I said "I'm gonna block you, delete your pages and protect every page you edit", that would have been as sysop; had I given you a warning, "don't do that or you may find yourself blocked", that would have been as a sysop. There is no conflict of power here, nor was I using my "higher amounts of rights" in that request. As to sysops being nice all the time.. well, I can understand where you're coming from, but as I said, my request was neither rude nor exasperated. I wouldn't see it as a requirement either, but more of a characteristic that some sysops may have (some sysops having that characteristic != every sysop requiring that characteristic). I'll post my thoughts on the arbitration on the relevant page. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 14:07, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if putting my two cents in here about this is a good thing or a cardinal sin, but either way, here's my two cents. DM made all his edits in good faith, and everything was allowed by policy (AFAIK), although it was bordering violating the whole "don't edit other people's comments" thing. The same applies for the ellipsis headers. I also think Brains responded in good faith, but was simply a little... snappy. Either way, nobody's strictly in the wrong here, although both of you probably didn't make the smartest decisions. In the end, there's no need for any ArbComm, and the best both of you could do is forget about it all and start off with a clean slate. Calor  [[Image:User_Calor_Sig.png|19px|Talk]] 15:26, 27 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Pretty much getting off on the wrong foot. Though this discussion has fully fixed our dispute. Thank you Brains for taking time for discussing this and apology accepted :). Plus it was foolish of me to just jump to arb com without discussing it with you just because you where a sysops. That was both unwarranted, and unneeded of me...and I apologize for that. <font color="limegreen" size="2px">Dominator <font color="mediumblue" size="1px">Matrix  19:09, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * /handshake --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|16px|]] Brains12 \ talk 19:42, 27 June 2008 (UTC)


 * /handshake --<font color="limegreen" size="2px">Dominator <font color="mediumblue" size="1px">Matrix  19:43, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Cookies for all! --Star Weaver 19:56, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I've got the milk, have at it! =) --[[Image:User People of Antioch sig.png|Talk]] People of Antioch 20:07, 27 June 2008 (UTC)