Template talk:Alliance nav

Is there any way to put stuff like Example Guild (EX) into this template without breaking it? --Xeeron 15:46, 8 April 2007 (EDT)


 * That would mean an additional parameter, I think it would be "Too Much Information". --Jamie [[Image:User Jamie.gif|(Talk Page)]] 16:09, 8 April 2007 (EDT)


 * My problem is: One of the guilds in the alliance is mostly known by their tag alone, not the name, so I want a way to have the tag of guilds show in the nav box. --Xeeron 16:58, 8 April 2007 (EDT)


 * Optional guild tags for all guild then? only way I can see that working. --Jamie [[Image:User Jamie.gif|(Talk Page)]] 19:35, 8 April 2007 (EDT)


 * If you want to force specify the guild's name, the parameter is GuildXname. - B e X o R  00:02, 9 April 2007 (EDT)
 * NVM it didn't work. :( - B e X o R  00:04, 9 April 2007 (EDT)

Optional
You can't have an alliance without 2 members, guild1 and 2 are mandatory, 2-10 are optional. - B e X o R  23:54, 8 April 2007 (EDT)


 * Actually according to official text, a guild alone is considered an alliance, but for the purposes of the view that guilds are alliances if they officially have a faction, then I suppose this is true. --Jamie [[Image:User Jamie.gif|(Talk Page)]] 04:03, 9 April 2007 (EDT)


 * Whats the point of a navigation box that only links to the article its included on. :P - B e X o R  05:46, 9 April 2007 (EDT)


 * I'm trying to get the template corrently working for 1 guild alliances. Alexanderpas Talk|Contrib 09:00, 20 August 2007 (UTC)


 * One guild just simply isn't an alliance, why would you need an alliance box? The alliance navbox is meant for easy navigation inside one alliance. If there is just one guild in it, you don't need any other links. - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 09:20, 20 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Problem is, most people creating guilds seem to think that it is mandatory to have an Alliance navbar regardless of if the guild is or not on one (since they just copy/paste from the guideline), and the current navbar forces to have 2 guilds linked, or will just end throwing out broken links (like, 1, None ). Maybe we should just enforce the "remove if the guild is not in an alliace" part of the guideline?--Fighterdoken 19:22, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

fixed the spacing between the dots
It was annoying me.. :) -- Lemming64 16:48, 9 April 2007 (EDT)

Move
No contests to the move. Last call! - B e X  07:17, 10 May 2007 (EDT)
 * Move it :P - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|Anja Astor]]  (talk)  07:35, 10 May 2007 (EDT)

D:
Why did it get reverted? It was awesome the new way! - B e X   01:32, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * No strong reason; I wasn't sure if people wanted the red links or not. (I was originally hoping to fix the Special:Wantedpages issue, but it turns out that this approach won't work without going a lot farther.) --Rezyk 22:31, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Well someone has that RFTA to exclude guild pages from Wantedpages and I guess no red links might make it a tiny bit harder for new editors to get the correct guild name. :/ It was a nice solution though. :D - B e X  [[Image:User BeXoR sig.gif|iawtc]] 07:54, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Red links on navbar
I wanted to put this into dicussion again, since there is no progress in the RFTA as far as i know. The problem with the version that was teste here (with the #ifexist command) is that, even though it removes the red link from the page, still leaves a wanted link in the special:wantedpages list. From GWWT:GUILD we came to an alternative stealing a new "ifexist" template from mediawiki. What does it?: The new proposed navbar is currently placed at User:Fighterdoken/Sandbox/Nav2, and a comparison between both versions can be seen at User:Brains12/Sandbox/Alliance nav. Visually they are the same, but what matters is that the second option could, eventually, clean up the wanted list so it becomes useful again :). P.s: I find that the red links in the navbar are actually more harmful than helpful. New users are easily confused by them, creating multiple articles about the same guild instead of checking if the guild name is spelled right. So it's better to let them create a guild where they want, and move it later, instead of providing them with links that could induce them to create articles where they should not be created.--Fighterdoken 01:04, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Allows the guild navbar to link or not to pages based on if they exist or not (simmilar to the version tested here).
 * Allows the removal of links from the Special:Wantedpages list (which can't be done with the #ifexists statement).
 * UNWANTED: Instead of placing the page in the wanted list, the new navbar shows the links in the "Templates used in this page" list. While this may be unwanted, it appears to not be a serious issue. At most, it could provide people with red links if they really want to create the missing guild pages :).
 * This seems like a good solution to me, even more so if we can get our wanted pages list back :) - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 01:15, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd support this if it would automatically link to guild pages. It wo-uld just make it a lot easier. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  貢  02:26, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * A really nice thing you found there, Fighterdoken. I implemented it in ifexists and changed it to be compatible to the default #ifexists. poke | talk 08:27, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Changed the proposed navbar to use the ifexists template now, so it's easier to copy-paste in case it gets changed :).--Fighterdoken 17:19, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Implemented the change. "The job queue length is 4,020." - after that Special:WantedPages is empty :P poke | talk 19:18, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Yay!, now we can use the wantedpages list again :).--Fighterdoken 21:11, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * While geting wanted pages functioning is good, I'm sad to see the links gone. They where a source of many new editors, who first started with doing their guilds page. Backsword 07:09, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * To create your own guild you should be able to press F10 in-game and use that link or enter the name manually.. poke | talk 14:55, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * There's also the red link in the "Templates used in this page" in the editing screen (unless that was repaired)--[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|15px| ]] Brains12 \ Talk 14:57, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Tags on navbar
I have seen a lot of guilds trying to put their tags on the alliance navbar (and breaking it in the process). I tried to make a version that allowed to put the tags into the navbar (at User:Fighterdoken/Sandbox/001), so just wondering now if it is a good idea, if it would be just useless info for the most part (tags are not unique after all), or if any other variation of it can come up.--Fighterdoken 05:59, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I think that are far too much things, people have to add... poke | talk 09:50, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Not that they are forced to add them in any way. Just curious if it would be deemed appropiate to provide a template giving the possibility to add it already, or just let guilds do it their own way if they decided to.--Fighterdoken 18:10, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Color
So what color is it gonna be? #DDD or #EE8 ?-- horsedrowner  06:41, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * DDD--[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wynthyst 07:22, 16 June 2008 (UTC)