Talk:Cold as Ice/Archive

After a few minutes, sometimes the Glacial Griffon will cast one spirit at a time and stay in one spot.
 * this happened to me. I was set up with an air ele build, and I just stood in a position where the spirits couldn't attack me (obstructed), and just used my spells that would attack without needing line of sight. the preceding comment was added by 24.125.250.48
 * It sometimes gets stuck, but not always.
 * I'm wondering if it has anything to do with the gryphon's aggro pattern. Probably not, but as a ranger, while the gryphon was casting spirits by the gate, I was able to run up the hill and degen him to death with a longbow as he stood still hiding behind his spirits. He was nowhere near my bubble, so perhaps he's one of those mobs that won't attack unless you are inside it's aggro bubble, even if it's taking damage.69.37.76.87 21:42, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * It seems to be the way he is programmed to set up his spirits: Usually around 4 in a straight line. If that line collides with something, he gets stuck. --Xeeron 22:04, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * "Cold as Ice" is the least balanced quest in the game - as much more since the Ritualist ghosts buff! There are mostly recommended PVE skills and/or [elite] skills extraneous to the main profession as you can see here. Well, it is a PVE quest, so why don't use PVE skills? But the most of the builds are strange to the professions (f.i. # 6 Tips for any profession or # 8 Build for anyone - X/Rt). Worst affected is the Paragon because of the malfunctioning mana management of the party based primary attribute (Guide to playing as a paragon)... --Saxxon 17:49, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Tips for a warrior?
I just added a section on how I did it with my warrior, I just made a variation of the Necro build that required less energy! Kaelonatb 03:59, 22 February 2008 (UTC) Any suggestions? I'm guessing interrupts are the only way.
 * Seriously out of ideas here as well. Tried going mass interrupts, the problem being: Even without the spirits, the griffon is still a lvl 28 armour with tons of damage from normal attacks and you dont have the skill slots left to kill faster than being killed. Bringing Unnatural Signet also is useless since the griffon can bring up spirits faster than you can bring them down.
 * I guess the best way is to go caster secondary and hope the griffon gets stuck ... --Xeeron 19:44, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Just an update: Getting the griffon stuck is indeed the way to do it (though I would love to find a build to beat it fair and square). Wait till it gets stuck, then just attack. Bring a healing skill to outheal the damage from the one spirit up and interrupt the griffon whenever it tries to use Shadowsong. --Xeeron 13:27, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, the stuck bug just got fixed... -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png|sig]] 05:53, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

What I did was grabbed a sundering longbow (has to be longbow at least) and had 12 into Marksmanship and Wilderness Survival. Skills are Apply Poison, Distracting Shot, Troll Unguent, any IAS skill, and any IMS (Increase Movement Speed) skill (I used Drunken Master with a Deldrimor rank of 5). What you do is get up on that hill to the right of where you spawn so you'll have higher ground which will get you out of ranger of his spirits and you'll be able to attack him safely. Now, assuming you have 20 energy with +2 energy regen, cast apply poison and begin attacking, let him raise his spirits and back up a little if you need to up the hill. Now cast your IAS and IMS skill and begin the cat and mouse game of attacking him, then running up the hill, then going back to attacking when he runs down. Now, you only want to interrupt him if he casts a spirit on YOUR hill but if he's casting down where he spawned don't waste the precious energy. Wait till you get your energy back up to 20 before using apply poison again, rinse and repeat. If you need a better explination, just ask a question and I'll try to answer ^^; Master Saji 18:40, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, you don't NEED the IAS skill, but it is welcomed ;) Master Saji 18:42, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

I just soloed this quest easily on my W/R. You just need poison arrow, and about 15 minutes. Apply poison is kinda a bad idea imo since it uses 15 energy and slows you down a lot. I also had Storm Chaser and Troll Unguent that I used infrequently. I did use the Poisonous Nevermore Flatbow to keep the poison going a little longer, but I do not think it is needed. I camped on a hill in range of him the whole time and only dropped back a little after hitting him. I noticed that he tended to walk around, stop for a second or two, then cast a spirit. I just waited until he stopped to hit him. If you hit him while casting a spirit, and run back a bit fast enough, he will not chase you. I must also note that you must keep poison on him constantly since his regen is so high; 10 seconds of regen for him sets you back about 2 minutes worth of poison damage. If you want to see my build, or have any questions, you may msg me in game through the character Knight Comm.
 * I second using the Poison Arrow skill for Warrior's. I had 9 in Marks, 12 in Wilderness, and 9 in Beast (for Toxicity), and they were practically the only skills I used in the end.  I also used the Poisonous Nevermore Flatbow, took me a little over 5 minutes to kill it. 82.16.137.96 02:00, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Here is how I did it with a W/R build:

Poisonous Nevermore Flatbow, Marksmanship 12, Wilderness Survival 12

When you spawn in, cast Poison Tip Signet and "I Am The Strongest!". When the boss spawns, hit him once to cause the poison, then run away with Natural Stride to this location near the portal.



When you get up there, cast your signet again then cast Read the Wind. Go back down the hill, shoot him to reapply the poison and run back up the hill. A good way to time it if you are using a poisonous bow is to wait until Read the Wind starts blinking, recast your signet, then recast RtW. Then, every 6th attack, cast "I Am The Strongest!" for extra damage. Repeat this until he is poisoned to death. If you do it correctly, he won't attack you at all. Be patient and only shoot him the one time needed to reapply the poison. I also took self healing, but it wasn't necessary since neither he, or his spirits ever hit me. --Juicebox 06:26, 27 October 2008 (UTC)


 * The problem is, the picture isn't working. Try reposting a new one please. Thanks. Captain Armin 21:52, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Can you do this with a D/R? or does it only work with W/R?
 * It works with any/R, quite well actually. I'd suggest adding a bow attack, like power shot, for extra damage.

Str = 6, Sword = 11+1, Tactics =12+1+1. you can probably switch out deadly riposte with riposte however ensuring a constant bleed was more important i thought. the disease pushes his life regen into your favor. use ViM pretty much every time you get a chance. if your lucky, he wont cast his elite until after he's set up his 4 spirits. a key is to watch when he recasts his elite because that means he's about to start summoning spirits again. if you stop the first one he's less likely to keep going. for more power/health, use ViM after "You Move Like a Dwarf!" because it adds a crippling effect. 65.29.13.52 05:03, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Is this quest impossible to a monk? lol

ok Im sure its impossible for a monk

~Also, another idea is to use the 3 core rip skills, poison tip signet, and a self heal. Then it's just a matter of letting him place spirits, and argoing him away from them. Enjoy!~

I took 4 skills on my W/N. 2 ripostes grenth's balance and Heal sig. Did /age and it took 2 mins. Maccarelly 23:09, 3 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I used a W/N build and used bone minions and Soul Barbs, for necro skills and put:


 * 12 points to Death Magic
 * How ever you choose amongst swordsmanship and curses
 * Gladiators Armor
 * If you don't have thoes Necromancer skills it's only 2 platinum and 2 skill points to learn them from a skill trainer and you should have the rest of the skills
 * ''I was able to summon Animate Bone Minions twice before he spawned and attacked him when he turned hostile with a total of 6 minions (two per corpse). This kept him from moving and i think this is POSSIBLY A BUG because after my minions started dying from the one spirit he could summon, he never moved or attacked me. Even after most my minions died he still never moved or attacked. When all my minions died the spirit started to attack me but not the griffon. I used barbs when i had alot of minions and when it recharged i used Sever artery and Gash to keep bleeding damage sustained on him. I also never attacked the one spirit he summoned and just used Dolyak and Healing Signet when needed. If anyone tried this method let me know if the griffon never attacked you either." Sir Edward 17:11, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

I’d found the Warrior/Necro succesfull with the Grenth’s Balance as the only necro skill. Used as explained on the main, when you nearly out of health. Starting by charging right on, and as all the spirits are spawned I lure the Glacial Griffon away while Grenth’s Balance recharge. Using Grenth’s Balance to heal my self and Ear Bite + Finish Him to put him to rest. As Grenth’s Balance doesn’t require any ability points, you can use you normal warrior setup, witch you’re hopefully familiar with. My build looked like OQQTEV6WVqUEw4vYmMm0KIAYrAA and have removed some of the health-stealing runes and but in some Rune of Attunement along with a +5 energy sword. Gollomotors 17:42, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Thats how I've beaten him pretty quickly (Swordsmanship 14 Strength 14):

Precast Enraging Charge and Enduring Harmony. As soon as he starts casting 1st spirit use FGJ and interupt it. KD him with Brawling, activate Flail and Spam Dragon slash + Brawling (Stonefist insignia works great). Probably u wont beat him until FGJ ends, thats why u have 2 interupts - to not let him cast any spirit (especially shadowsong) during the break. Attack him with normal hits, KDing and Dragon slashing as often as possible. Without spirits he should not kill u until u can recast FGJ and then just repeat DS and Brawling spam. Gunm 16:04, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

After an hour trying different builds, almost had it with Dwarven Battle Stance. I tried something "noobish" and it worked. With mending people, yes! mending. The quest was a breeze and didn't have any problems with health, energy or taking him out and interrupted every ritual. I still find it funny when people laugh at noobish skills or builds.

Justgetmein

GUYS, PLEASE DON'T OVERCOMPLICATE THIS.

A quick enough victory, not much damage taken.

I didn't even use the optional slots. 86.10.251.162 11:37, 10 April 2009 (UTC)


 * How did you deal with the spirits? (83.163.223.50 15:12, 6 July 2010 (UTC))


 * I just did it with Summon Rudy Djinn, Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support, Animate Bone Minions, Pain Invertor, Sever Artery, Gash, Doylak Signet and Healing Signet. 12 in Death, the rest spread between swordsmanship and strength. I began with animating minions as soon as i zoned in, summoned the djinn, got close to the griffen, animated minions again and then went to town with the sword. I didnt even have time to use doylak signet or healing signet. 24.188.207.20 21:33, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Took a few tries until I used this build:


 * Curses 12, Tactics 12. I just kept kiting while the Djinn either distracted his spirits or set him on fire, kept Weaken Knees up for the whole time. As a Warrior it was a royal pain trying to manage energy and do enough damage to him and prevent myself from dying. There's probably a more efficient way to go about the above, but it worked. 67.213.78.48 06:02, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

With today's update it's impossible to interrupt all 4 spirits. The "Primary Warrior" section should be updated. 79.32.35.151 20:05, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I used the same technique as Let's Play Guild Wars - As Cold As Ice Quest Solo, with a secondary Ritualist, but made it lighter on the energy usage:

Template code: OQglEVSXlAuiLZU+NVO5DGLGVwVEAA --José Devezas 03:08, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

I have found this build very useful for an axe warrior. I won on my first try using this build. Hope it works for you too! 12 Death Magic, 14 Axe Mastery, 6 Tactics -Randomuser [Notes]: Can replace Dismember with Eviscerate or Decapitate, and Executioner's Strike and Penetrating Blow can be replaced with different adrenaline axe attacks.

I just beat the Griffon using only Aura of the Lich and Barbs. I took Blood of the Master and Heal Signet, but never needed them. As soom as the timer hits 0 cast AotL and the minions swarm the Griffon and don't allow it to move. It can only cast one spirit and might not even attack the minions. 12 Death, 12 Curses and stand and watch.Hockster 23:49, 28 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I can confirm that the above set works and makes this the easiest solo quest ever.

Cast AotL just before the Gryphon turns hostile, while standing on the gryphon. All the minions will swarm in and surround him, he'll cast one spirit, and then just stand there. Throw Barbs and Putrid Bile on him and watch as he just gets torn apart in seconds. 3:14, 20 November 2009 - I can confirm that this works percectly, when timed right. But you really have to time AotL, otherwise they other gather around yourself, and not around the Gryphon, or he walks of before they surround him. Still, probably the easiest way of doing it. I suggest as using this as primary skill suggestion. Using several different summons and maintaining them etc. is way more difficult.

Tips for a ranger
I just completed this quest with my ranger after trying a lot of builds. eventually i did it by putting all points in expertise and markmanship, running to the hill, and using burning arrow on him from a distance, going around with this for a long time i finnally got him down to 50%, where i used needling shot's arrowspeed and spammability to nuke him down at very high speed. I hope this will help some people Rhydeble 14:49, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

I just did it as a ranger, using the Animate Bone Minions strategy on the main page. Took a few tries, but eventually the minions boxed him in enough that he couldn't raise any spirits. At the end he was dead I was at +2% with 5 minions standing. Then while waiting for the countdown timer the minions turned hostile and killed me! I still got the reward - but I was worried for a moment.


 * The one "walkthrough" talking about the poison bow, troll, burning, whatever... Doesn't work. When I run away to heal up, so does he. When I go back to attack, shadowsong blinds me and can't re-poison him. This bastard is impossible.-  Vanguard [[Image:User-VanguardAvatar.PNG]] 15:08, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

I used a spirit spammer to kill him. Just start dropping your spirits as soon as the area loads. Took him down easy.

What bout using Lacerate, Toxicity, Barbed Arrows, Poison Tip Signet, Signet of Infection and self heals, then just keep shooting him and applying the degen and keeping the spirits up? -DarthD 13:00, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Any sort of degen build works reasonably well. The only trouble is when the griffon breaks aggro and runs back to lay more spirits. At that point you have the option of pulling it again after it's laid down the spirits or trying to interrupt its casting of them. While it's casting spirits, it can't do anything else so you have a few seconds to pop more degen arrows at it. Combinations of knockdowns using "You move like a dwarf!" with degen are very useful, especially as YMLAD! cripples as well. This is particularly useful as the griffon has a tendency to return to the centre, or near to, to cast its spirits. A basic build such as Apply Poison, Burning Arrow, YMLAD, DShot, Natural Stride, Troll. It's time consuming, but it will kill it. --BeeD 14:29, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

OgATcTMnTq14S03wm0tcXEAAAAA worked for me. As said before, keep the griffon poisoned + bleeding (uses only Prophecies and EotN skills) --91.66.211.91 11:42, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Grr. There's a build that "does not work anymore," but I didn't read that until I bought all of the freaking skills to use it. I'm getting rid of it. 204.73.48.75 00:56, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Just finished killing it, and it wasn't that hard once you get used to the build your using. My build was Ebon vanguard sniper support, ebon vanguard assassin support, escape, lightning reflexes and signet of infection. Start on the hill everyone talks about, then cast lightning reflexes, then immediately ran down, used sniper support, then immediately followed by signet of infection then assassin support then escape and ran straight back up the hill. Then i just kept repeating. Worked fairly well, and the thing was that i did it in under 15 mins with lvl 2 in ebon vanguard title track and 12 on expertise, so if you have high ebon vanguard title track, it'll be real quick and you barely get hurt. Skarlath 08:43, 31 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I didn't want to have to go and cap all the Ebon Vanguard skills, so I used Lacerate (an easy cap from Altruum Ruins), Toxicity, Barbed Arrows and Poison Tip Signet. The Griffon kept dodging so I threw in Favourable Winds.  Needling Shot, Gaze of Fury and Trolls were in there to help, but I didn't need them on my last go. In fact I found it best to just be patient and wait for the degen death rather than rush in and get pwned. Template code: OgglYhXIGnViC5bdJ2KBcF84bYshdA Little Zeb 08:55, 28 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Fair enough, though with lightning reflexes and escape, i got hit a mind-blowing 1 time by the spirits xDD. And also it's true that you've gotta get a fair amount of ebon vanguard skills, but it makes for much faster killing then outright degen, unless of course you got something to inflict burning.Skarlath 01:25, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Here is how I did it with ranger + PvE only skills: Expertise: 11; Wilderness Survival: 10; Marksmanship: 10

Just keep Poison Tip Signet on and hit him with Burning Arrow and Hunter's Shot. When he goes near to you, use "You Move Like a Dwarf!" and A Touch of Guile (and Ear Bite if you have enough adrenaline). Keep away from his spirits, just wait for him to go in range and pull him away. Repeat and finish with Needling Shot, he should be dead in short time. 77.78.176.159

Tips for a elementalist
Can this be done by a water elementalist now that it doesn't get stuck? The griffon just doesn't seem to be taking damage. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:208.38.36.24.


 * I just beat the the boss here and used a build guildwars forced me to use before hand. here the template code OgBDo8isO0txqTrsSLQGNNcB its the festival build from a while back or as close to it as I could get. I had to run away a few time but i took it down to half health the frist time then 3/4 and so on untill it was defeated.


 * I just beat him using this, OgREU8tqxyUFKDFj0AZlYgL2FA . I just spawned the minions, attuned up, and used meteor against his first spirit. he didnt move because he was bodyblocked and i just bombed him with the aoe and barbs.


 * Found the first build (the festival one) was excellent for elementalist - why is it not on the article page? – josəph  14:58, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

I beat it with ranger and some air to get the cracked armor. Brought along the sniper support and the assassin support to keep it at bay and "you move like a dwarf" to make it stop chasing me. Of course I had poison signet with my longbow. and the heal. didn't take long at all so long as you heal yourself near full each attack.

I just used a modified Ether Cry build. Add in Stone Flesh Aura and just swap out the current hexes and damage skill for Sniper support, dual Conjures and You Move Like a Dwarf. Energy and Heals arent a problem. Easy build.--Hyprodimus Prime 09:04, 31 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Just took the Griffon down with this build: OgREU8tqxCJHUGsLqLWLqMAM4LA - Summon minions before the griffon arrives, when he turns hostile sac MS him and put mark of rodgort, drop barbs, assassin, sniper, signet, and keep all the conditions on him. I had a fire staff for Mark of Rodgort, and level 6 vanguard title. Bubbinska 13:00, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

I finally did it with mostly ranger skills. Ebon Sniper support helped immensely:OgJTwGMnZiWYZw34wY2wmUXsWEA 67.174.73.81 16:33, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
 * How can I beat him as an ele? And I mean as an ele non of this use secondary nonsense. Everyone tried to tell me ele couldn't do magni but I did so there must be a an ele build for griffon too Ramei Arashi 05:47, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Tips for a Necromancer
The change to Aura of the Lich is perfect for this mission. Stand in the circle of corpses and cast it just before the Griffon arrives, and you'll have several Bone Minions at your command on him immediately: plus, casting it again always creates a minion even without a convenient body, so you're never going to run out of minions. Add Blood of the Master to keep the minions alive and they will keep the Griffon occupied and away from you. Throw in a damage spell like Bitter Chill to keep draining him and Death Nova to poison him if he does kill a minion, and he's in real trouble.

When I did it, it was with my Mesmer primary, so I added Inspiration magic for energy control and energy denial, plus self-healing.

He never touched me and he went down in just under a minute.

Tips for Dervish
Illusion Magic = 12; Earth Prayers = 9; Mysticism = 9

Cast Conjure Phantasm/Nightmare then spam Pious Haste with Vital Boon. If you still have energy left, go from left to right -> Shrinking Armor - Ether Nightmare.

Variants: Aura of Thorns + Signet of Pious Light = health/energy gain that inflict bleeding and cripple.--Ridz16 09:08, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Another Variant

Attributes as Above. Use Meditation and Vital Boon to boost health and have easier e-management. Avatar gives 33% speed boost, but use "You Move Like a Dwarf!" to keep the grypho at bay when it is worn off. AoB's armor boost is also real nice. Phantom Pain is most important to keep on it at first, and make sure degen is applied constantly.

A Third Variant

Illusion Magic = 12 Mysticism = 12 Optional = 3

Use Avatar and Winds right before griffon comes then make Sniper and if you're lucky just make Assassin, if not: cast Phantom Pain and Conjure Phantasm and run backwards. Use Meditation for Health and e-management, use Sniper Support and hope for the best then use Assassin Support and degen skills; run away and heal. Repeat a few times and make Winds when you have enough energy because it makes the spirits attacks hit a little bit less often. Options for Winds: "YMLaD": for less dmg when griffon chases you, Vital Boon: for more health management, Other Optional Skill. It might take a few trys but i made it during my second try with my Derv // King Goldenheart. 20:10, 24 Januari 2010 (UTC)

Tips for any profession
The build i used on my dervish was

i was rank 3-4 in vanguard, asuran, and norn at the time but this worked fine, rose my minions(and djinn) before the battle began, soon as it began i cast barbs, vanguard assassin and went into ursan, then i just kept spamming the ursan skills and killed him within a few minutes i used the /bonus staff for GW:EN but any +15 energy staff will due, to get energy high enough i perfect salvaged all my other runes off and replaced them all with radiant/attunement, had just under 60 energy, atts were 12 death 12 curse

I have done this on 2 characters now. Any type of long degen works on him. For fun, I tried /Me using Domination Magic. It seemed to work really well if you do not mind getting hit a couple times. Otherwise, if you have the time, the /R poison arrow trick I listed under warrior works really well. Poison Arrow killing takes a lot longer to kill him, but is much safer. Took me 3 runs until I got /Me to work because you have to get in range of his spirits, and knockdown causes major problems. -Knight Comm


 * I found it works quite well as a Spirit Spammer with "You Move Like a Dwarf" (this also works well for Magni), although low-energy classes will probably have trouble with it. Just take whatever spirits you have (eg Pain, Dissonance, Shadowsong), maybe an Asura summon and a self-heal if you want. The code I used for my mesmer was: OQhjAgCKITZOfTnNPO+g2kwimOA.
 * I found more success using the ebon battle standard of honor, 10 animate bone minions, barbs, and ursan roar. By then he's dead.--68.116.156.71 22:09, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

you are my hero Man/Lady Or manlady O.o!!!

55hp monk works used
I finished the Griffon easily as 55hp monk:

Skills:
 * Spoil Victor
 * Life Siphon
 * Shield of Absorption
 * Protective Spirit
 * Blessed Signet
 * Mending
 * Balthazar's Spirit
 * Essence Bond

Attributes:
 * 12 Blood
 * 5+3 Healing
 * ~10+1+3 Protection
 * ~6+3 Divine

Equip:
 * Castersword + -50hp focus
 * Recommended: Longbow

Strategy:

Get your enchantments up before the griffon arrives and move a few steps up the hill to the right. As soon as the griffon becomes evil, attack him with your bow and he will cast his spirits. They won't be able to attack you because you are on high ground. Carefully lure the griffon as soon as he summoned the four spirits (If he stops casting, attack with the bow and run away, he will continue summoning) and cast spoil victor and life siphon on him and protective spirit on yourself. If he summons a pain or shadowsong spirit on the hill cast shield of absorption on yourself to prevent damage and continue to hex him whenever spoil victor is ready. If he casts dissonance or bloodsong, get some distance between you and the spirits and continue.

Time: Morfildur 13:42, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I finished the griffon in less than two minutes.

I took out the line about Headbutt being an effective knockdown because Headbutt doesn't knock things down. Not sure if the author meant Shove or not; was not clear.Miss Innocent 04:14, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Or another monk one... I did in in less than two minutes, any equipment works

OwAT443AZSXMWUuMNy6DlAvKvCA Summon Djinn, use sniper at start, spam Censure and signets. When he finally attacks you, use inverter and Reversal. Easy. Colonel Hawk 16:09, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Build for anyone - X/Rt
I went in as a spirit spammer on my necro and it was over in seconds :) Basicaly this build here but with wanderlust in the build... http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:Any/Rt_Norn_Tournament_Spirit_Farmer T1Cybernetic 02:52, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

FTW
This build works for all primary proffessions. Wait till the timer end and the gate opens. Stand between the 2 lines in frond of you and cast the spirits. Now step into the arena (the foe will attack you now) and cast Painful bond. See your target die in approx 4-8 seconds. If you get Argo it will take a longer time since hes a terra tank. At Magni the bison it could be that he not directly die from the first spirit wave and kills a few. Just run around and make sure he doesn't attack you. Randomly cast spirits so all spirits keep up and attack him. Also make sure Painful bond stays active. It takes around 15-18 seconds to kill Magni. This build works also 100% vs the Glacial Gryphon if you cast Dissoance (so he can't cast his own spells) just before he turns hostile and the spirits are directly in his range (so walk a few steps to the center of the arena before casting). 100% cast Signet of Ghostly Might on aguist cause it will also be doubled when the foe is hexet.Robertjanvaneijk1988 12:25, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

The /R degen build on a budget.
Six of the eight skills can be obtained form hero skill trainers for free, one comes with the /R profession. The only skill I had to pay for was Poison Tip Signet, if I remember correctly.

Poison Tip Signet, Barbed Arrows, and Toxicity total to -9 degen (I think, correct me if I'm wrong), and Called Shot + Favorable Winds is impossible to dodge, even at distance.

Cast your spirits, put on Poison Tip Sig, apply Barbed Arrows, and take a shot with Called Shot (and another one with Hunter's Shot if the griffon stops to cast a spirit), then back up to lose aggro. It took me about five minutes, but it's pretty fail-proof. If you get hit, Troll Unguent'll fix that.

Raine Valen 21:58, 24 July 2008 (UTC)


 * The ranger build is by far the easiest and most reliable for low energy classes.
 * This build worked better than those on the article page for my Ranger, and first time. (BM 8; Ex 2; Wild 12; MM 10; no runes except attunement and vitae/vigor) – josəph  23:29, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

This is still the best build for any profession imo:

2minutes 10s in NM. + longbow as usual. Doesn't even need toxicity. [ stand on hill + longbow as usual ]-- Chieftain  Alex 11:23, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

I have a Monk primary and tried a LOT of ideas before I ran across this YouToube video:. I watched it and it looked fairly simple and the concept made since to me. As I looked at the skills I knew that I could get Burning Arrow fairly easily but not the Drunken Master. Since a ranger has his own running skills I though perhaps that I didn't really need that one and used Storm Chaser instead. If you don't have or don't want to get Burning Arrow that's OK because you don't strictly need it either. Here is the template code that I used to defeat the foul beast: OwIT8GMnZC24SU36wAAAA44AAAA. It took me two times to get it and what I had to learn was that I didn't need to be in an all out rush. I needed to take my time and cast Read the Wind, Storm Chaser, Poison Signet then Hunter's Shot (or Burning Arrow). As soon as your shot is off turn and run back up the hill getting out of all the aggro. Rinse and repeat until victorious! --Remlwc 07:40, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

I have a Warrior primary and used the same tactics as I mention above. Here is the code template: OQITUHMnZC2444S8wAAAAAAIAAA 12 minutes (time will vary) first try successful. It could have gone faster if I had more than 24 energy. It would have been nice if the bow I was using was a Longbow but hey it worked! Here is screen shot of the end: Warrior Ranger --Remlwc 12:19, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Made an attempt at cleanup
I tried to streamline the information in the current walkthrough as much as possible. Tried to keep most of the info there, but not make it too long or a huge wall of text. I'm keeping the Cleanup Tag there in case someone wants to check it over. If I missed something, let me know. (I haven't beaten this quest with all the classes, so I could not personally test each strategy, I just edited what was already there...if someone wants to change it or feels it should be shorter/cleaner, go ahead!)Mllepandora 04:10, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Assassin Tip
I beat the griffon in about three minutes (in NM) simply using perma Shadow Form and pretty much using that old Mark of Rodgort/Lava Font Permasin Chaos Planes farming build. I didn't anticipate that he'd keep moving, so he only got hit by about two Lava Fonts total. There might be a better skill to replace it, but permasin definitely works. Sora267 05:06, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * You could have possibly used Rodgort, then just continually attacked with a fire weapon. Kephket's Refuge is a +15e staff with 20% ench mod and attacks fire. :D I used it to finish off last enemies in Chaos Plains before. :).............Didn't sign.--78.149.191.183 20:39, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Here is an example of what I used to beat the boss. Use a Zealous Dagger of Enchanting and you shouldn't have any problems with 16 Shadow Arts and 12 Dagger Mastery. Might take a bit of time but it gets the job done. Replace skills as you may, but this has more than enough energy management in it and you can spam Repeating Strike over and over again until you need to regain energy through the Lotus Strikes to recast Shadow Form

Joshgt2 01:23, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

i used OgSCU8xkRZs4uYVQZAaAAAAA and it took like 30-40 secs

i used perma, sliver armor and glyhp of lesser energy to kill him. takes long but it's a cheap way of doing it 85.144.1.180 19:30, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

WORKED FOR ME: Glyph of Swiftness, Deadly Paradox, Shadow Form, Golden Lotus Strike, Ear Bite, Brawling Headbutt, Low Blow, Optional. OwZT0V/8ZS6jHRnRAqU8U0UEAAA  Dagger Mastery 10, Deadly Arts 3, Shadow Arts 12+1+3  I had a Rajazan's Fervor for +20% Enchantment, and switched to daggers for Golden Lotus Strike, but should work fine with Zealous Daggers of Enchanting. Took a while, but ZERO risk if done right, and easy to do. -slick05_1

Here's an easy and safe one I used (you need a firey weapon). Took me 3 minutes. OwZUgI16rPPSfekODAgM8FjVAAA

Cast permasin, lesser energy, rodgort, attack once (to start the burning) glowing gaze, spam glowing gaze, recast permasin, recast lesser energy and rodgort, glowing gaze, etc. It can probably be improved greatly, but it worked alright for me. Murk Raven 23:59, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

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No need to stop attacking and recast spells constantly here. It's nearly invincible and relatively fast killing... I've tried so many times with Shadow Form and other builds that don't kill quickly at all but this one was an easy victory the first try. You'll need +4 in Shadow Arts to have it the way I did. Start out with Flashing Blades and Way of Perfection just before it appears, then use Critical Defenses and Critical Eye right before it turns hostile. Just keep attacking, using Falling Spider and Critical Strike after "You Move Like a Dwarf!" Use "You Move Like a Dwarf!" when the Griffon casts Shadowsong and it will be useable one extra time and again by the time Shadowsong recharges. If you start losing too much health, just use Death's Charge. Make sure that you use Way of Perfection before it ends and Flashing Blades and Critical Eye every time they recharge, and save Critical Defenses because it should refresh constantly (that's what Critical Strike is for). 209.240.183.45 22:12, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Hmm... Ive jsut done it with that build: OwBAQEQnZHQxZDQOMhZ2kA

I had 12 dagger, 9 Shadow and 9 Critical, and Split Chakrams of Forgotten (+1/-1e) And work nice

Can't get the quest
Anyone have a problem where Silf Shadowhunter doesn't offer the quest? For some reason I can't get this quest from her, isn't listed. I haven't finished the EoTN expansion yet but I have completed gaining the Norn as allies. Does that make a difference? Or am I missing something?
 * Did you finish Anything You Can Do and Worthy Deeds (Done Dirt Cheap)? Vili [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 16:46, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Assassin or Mesmer Help
This is the build I used to win: OwVTE4h9X6DQ0ZrxG0mcCaJQnBA It worked really well. I took most of it from the wiki article, but the changes I made really helped. I used Arcane Echo followed by Shadow Form. Chain the first four skills, then when your Shadow Form is about to run out use the Arcane Echo copy. once the hexes wear off, repeat the first four skills and then make a quick getaway. Just do all that over and over until he's dead. I died a couple of times using this build, but once you get the hang of it, you'll do fine.


 * Sins have the easiest time of all for this quest, tbh. There are any number of ways to do it with Shadow Form. Otherwise you can do KDlock or blockway with Critical Defenses, Critical Agility, and Flashing Blades.
 * By the way, I don't think any primary other than Assassin can maintain Shadow Form anymore. Vili [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 04:47, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Sin Build:  16 Crit, 13 Dagger. For the last Slot use any Skill you like, possible choices include Death Blossom for higher Damage to finish him, or Critical Strike to force CritDefense to refresh if you didnt land a crit within time. Alternatively try the following:  for some degen with the same Attributes and optional Skill choices as above. I suggest Zealous Daggers and at least 500HP. Cast Flashing right before he spawns followed by Critical Agility and start your attack chain, spamming Repeating Strike until you dont have energy at which point you just keep autoattackin until you have enough energy again. When Flashing is about to run out use CritDefenses which you should be able to keep up until he's dead. If you have enough energy or CritDefenses is about to run out recast Flashing for some extra damage. -- Silent Storm   01:24, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

For mesmers, I used a combination of Mantra of Persistence then Illusions of Pain. Put up mantra, then hit with the hex and run up the hill out of aggro range and wait for the hex to recharge, then run in and hit him with it again. Rinse and repeat and he will die.

Necro: Killed in 30sec
With: OAVDUqhHTyB4BlB7iLBxk7BVVA Cast AotL 1sec before the beast appears, then cast barbs, echo-vanguard. Spam Blood of the master, and IP if you want. Then finish him with finish him ;) &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 77.203.105.142 (talk &bull; contribs) at 10:01, 2 February 2009 (UTC).

Dissonance kills SF for Assassin
Dissonance gets rid of enchantments, so how do i keep up shadow form?? --Darkdood11 23:06, 20 May 2009 (UTC)Shanky
 * How are you getting hit by Dissonance if you have Shadow Form up? Vili &#x70B9; [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 23:11, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * idk--Darkdood11 23:12, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Primary Ritualist
I just did this on my Rt/Mo with 15 in Channeling Magic and 12 in Spawning Power. She had Essence Strike, Painful Bond, Signet of Spirits, Bloodsong, Vampirism (rank 7 Sunspear), Summon Spirits (rank 4 Kurzick), Spirit Siphon, and "You Move Like A Dwarf!" (rank 3 Norn). I put the spirits up before the Griffon got there, and hit the thing with Painful bond immediately. I used Summon Spirits to keep my spirits alive and to keep them near me, and used the Norn skill to keep the Griffon still and interrupted. I never even had to use Essence Strike, and the Griffon never had a chance to deal any damage. The quest was over in ~50 seconds, no difficulty at all. It worked for me. - Ara ~ A R A ~ 17:32, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Not sure how long it took me (didn't think to look), but my build was Bloodsong, Vampirism, Signet of Spirits, Agony, Painful Bond, Boon of Creation, Spirit Burn, and Essence Strike with 15 Channeling Magic, 13 Spawning Power, and 8 Sunspear. I set down the spirits in a bow closer to where the Griffon was going to spawn, hit it with Painful Bond when it came, then ran. :D When they attacked my spirits instead of me, I used Spirit Burn and Essence Strike for more damage/degen/energy, then used Boon of Creation, more spirits, and Painful Bond when I needed to. I threw this together after a few failures with a couple of different builds (including Wanderlust/Earthbind), and it worked the first time (and quite well). --70.173.28.17 16:51, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Primary Paragon
longbow I stole from jinn, Marksmanship 12, Wilderness Survival 12

didn't need troll just for if you get in problems. Stand on the hill with the tree and hit him with pts just before it runs out. Poisones longbow makes this easier. Read the wind is to get some extra damage but mostly to prevent dodging of your arrows. don't attack him regulary otherwise he will come to you and there is a chanche that he puts spirits up even if he runs away preventing you from poisoning him. This strategy could take some 10 minutes Rhonin Soren 11:21, 30 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Super long strategy != viable strategy, generally. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 15:59, 28 July 2009 (UTC)


 * But for a quest you only need to do once, a pretty much guaranteed victory after 10 minutes is better than spending an hour trying over and over again with "faster" but less reliable strategies. Especially since the spirits buff means builds built around not letting him get spirits up aren't really viable any more. Draxynnic 11:42, 28 August 2009 (UTC)


 * This ended up being the only way I was able to beat the griffon. I wasted more time trying other builds listed here than it took to actually wait for him to poison to death. If your primary doesn't have a strong build listed here, just grab these skills from a trainer and get it over with. -- Beporter 01:06, 22 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Or you could take Grenth's Balance with any class including paragon and finish the griffon in under a minute. It is easily capped in the Nahpui Quarter mission, you can take the portal directly to the boss. 16:04, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

"Skill interrupts will successfully shut down the Griffon’s binding rituals"
Erm and just about how do u go about interrupting binding rituals with a casting time of 1 second or less? 81.187.21.70 05:12, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * That was added to the article before the spirit buff. Karate   Jesus  05:16, 17 July 2009  (UTC)

Ideas to Complete quest after Rit Skill Buff?
Just spent the better part of 2 hours on my warrior trying various ways to complete this quest; all the pre spirit buff builds for warrior aren't working. Any ideas as to how to complete the quest now? And honestly, what was Anet thinking? Oh, I forgot, they don't... Psych au 15:06, 22 July 2009 (UTC)


 * This is pretty bullshit as a warrior. Your only hope is to bodyblock him so he only casts one spirit at a time, which is mostly a factor of luck given the minion AI. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 16:04, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * just guessing, what about knockdown and AoE attacks... the blind and life stealing attacks were always non fun... try pulling him away from his spirits then giving him some melee love... mix in some degen from bleed maybe some other fun stuff like poison MrPaladin talk 16:12, 28 July 2009 (UTC)


 * No good. He runs back way too easily and no KD spam in the game can stop him from casting the spirits now. I finally got lucky with a bodyblock, hit barbs (it's fun with six minions), switched to a zealous sword, and wailed away. For whatever reason once all my minions were dead he didn't move, so I re-barbsed and EVAS'd him down. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 16:19, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Tried various way on my war. [W - Cold as Ice;OQgjUhgr4S+gPbLT2kGbYO7iBAA]

The way that worked on first attempt (14 min... but worked) was to use skills interfering with spirits. Using an elite rit skill should help a lot.

I suggest trying with :

Vampirism, Signet of Binding, Essence Strike, Gaze of Fury EVAS, YMLAD

Optional elite : Signet of Spirit or Consume Soul

1 spam essence on closest targets as energy management only

2 dodge spirit attacks,

3 steal/destroy spirits,

4 Heal Yourself with Consume Soul or Healing Signet,

5 Let your spirits kill this bastard, doing 1-4

6 Vampirism provide minor healing aswell. Some ennemy spirits like Bloodsong seems to never attack it, though it doesnt help you.

This method is probably easier on other prof with more energy regeneration. Elephant 00:13, 6 August 2009 (UTC)


 * The entire fight is easier on professions with more energy regeneration. The counter to spirit spamming is to use skills that require energy. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 19:40, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Tips for a warrior primary:
Strength: 12; Tactics: 12; Ebon Vanguard Rank: 3 or higher.

Using this build, I completed the run in less than 5 minutes. Always chain 1, 2, then 3. Gladiator's Defense is to be used to get away from spirits, both to mitigate some damage as well as speed up the killing process (although it will only damage the Griffon). Bonetti's Defense is to be used when your energy is low. Enraging Charge can be used both to charge Bonetti's Defense as well as to flee from the Spirits' range. Healing Signet and Lion's Comfort can be used to regenerate health. The key skills are 1, 2, and 3, and should be used anytime they have recharged. --ChristopherRodrigues 23:19, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Any/Necro
worked for me, perfectly

rank 3 for the ebon vanguard and asura, and 12/12 death/curses. have fun :) 86.159.99.46 16:01, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

E/Me
was so easy

Just maintain Illusion of Pain and use Mindbender for ims and fast cast, use YMLAD to kite him and Aura of Restoration as a Heal. Can end it in around ~2 minutes. I only used the 4 skills shown on the bar. Mindbender itself is pretty optional, any IMS will do. It's good to have 14+ energy storage for this. 76.219.110.140 22:07, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

NECRO OR WITH ANYTHING WITH SECOND PROF OF NECRO
one way to win with out taking damage is when griffon shows up use Aura of the Linch then use summon Ruby Djinn, use barbs and faintheartedness next u can also use deathy swarm to help kill him, YOU HAVE TO KEEP BARBS ON HIM IF YOU WANT TO KILL HIM AND TRY TO KEEP FAINTHEARTEDNESS ON HIM ALSO. thats about all you need to kill him you can also put other skills in your build to disease him or make him bleed to help kill him faster... you need atleast 40 energy to keep up all skills and switch between barbs and faintheartedness I PROMISE THIS WILL WORK IF YOU USE IT RIGHT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ADD ME AS A FREIND MY MAIN GUYS NAME IS Killer Of All Hope... have fun

Cleanup
Great job cleaning up the walkthrough - but would it be an idea to make the profession individualism on collapsible bars? I'm not 100% sure how to do it but I think it would look better than a ridiculously long page :) -- Chieftain  Alex 22:52, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree, some of the builds are now out of date and seem unnecessarily 'wordy' - skills and a brief explanation would be fine. Tong2 14:39, 4 April 2010 (UTC)