Guild Wars Wiki talk:Projects/Cinematics

Core cinematics
I would like to do some core cinematics, but what are they? And where do I see wich ones are already done? PatouPower
 * Most cinematics are already completed. The unfinished ones are located on the Project page &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 21:54, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Subpages
Is it really necessary to have subpages for each campaign, with a list of all cinematics which are documented/undocumented? Surely one can get the same information by seeing the red links on the navbars, or by going through the stubs for the not-yet-complete cinematics? -- Brains12 \ talk 23:39, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * If you REALLY think that we can't take up this space for this then go ahead and delete it. You can delete these few pages so someone else can room to archive ursan blessing talk pages. &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 23:46, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Way to misinterpret my comment. I was just asking whether those subpages are needed, because we already have a way of knowing which cinematics have been documented and which haven't: a way that happens to be just as easy; maybe even easier as they update automatically. I'm not questioning space; I'm not threatening to delete anything; I did in no way whatsoever analogise this to Ursan Blessing. Why, in the name of all that is sane and good, would Ursan Blessing be relevant to this? Read my comment properly before you assume I'm on the warpath to delete these pages to make space for Ursan Blessing archives. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|18px|]] Brains12 \ talk 00:04, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Spoilers
Ok I was thinking for a moment and realized that all of these cinematics qualify as spoliers... so should we (or I, AWB ftw) go through and add the spolier template to the tops of the pages? -- Shadowphoenix  19:40, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * My reasons for opposition are here. (And even if we did go for them, adding it to the infobox rather than by AWB would be easier.) --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|18px|]] Brains12 \ talk 19:44, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I placed a spoiler template on the cinematic article some time ago, as it is, I think, one of the only ways someone could end up in cinematic pages without intentionally looking for the spoilers. &mdash; [[Image:User Why Are We Fighting BlackRose.jpg|Contributions]]Why 22:59, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Why would anyone who's not intending to look for a cinematic article (and thus want to know the contents of that cinematic) click any of those links, and then click a further link to decide which cinematic they want? People don't accidentally click two or three links and direct themselves to a page, they do it with the full intent to know what's coming. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|18px|]] Brains12 \ talk 23:03, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I do :P I browse the wiki alot at random (and got really disappointed when I clicked past the spoiler about undead rurik) but I might be one of the wierd few. I don't know if the spoiler on the cinematic article is strictly neccesary, imo it can be removed if you think that would be better, because I think you sure made a point in above post. &mdash; [[Image:User Why Are We Fighting BlackRose.jpg|Contributions]]Why 23:11, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * As I said on that infobox talk, that's your own fault :P -- don't read at random if you don't expect to find out random information about the future :) --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|18px|]] Brains12 \ talk 23:15, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * You sure made another point there ^^ &mdash; [[Image:User Why Are We Fighting BlackRose.jpg|Contributions]]Why 23:23, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Dragon's Lair
I really lol'ed when I read the description on this page. I'll fail the bonus for you guys once I'm back from my holiday, I need it for my Guardian title anyway and knowing me, it'll take a couple of tries ;) &mdash; Why 19:37, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

I guess I'll attempt all of Factions...
Ugh   I'm doing Factions now!! Need to get my warrior through that anyway Blood 22:10, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Bonus Mission Pack
I was gonna do the BMP missions this evening for the cinematics, but I see we lack a navigation bar. Before Creating 1, I want to ask, Should we name the cinematics according to the mission name, Like Battle of Jahai, or make them like the books, example Turai's Story? --M age M ontu 20:25, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Imo name them like the mission names, but check if there are any cinematics first, before putting your time in making a template we might not need. ;) &mdash; [[Image:User Why Are We Fighting BlackRose.jpg|Contributions]]Why 20:28, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Of course there are ;) --M age [[image:user MageMontu sig.png| ]]<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">ontu 20:32, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * /drool - /cough - I remembered Wyn saying, somewhere on one of the many talk pages associated with this project (at least, if my memory serves me correctly, I could be wrong), that she didn't come across any cinematics in the BMP. But well, it appears you found them! /congrats! now the honor of making those pages is yours, har har, makes me less jealous ^^ <font color="#808080">&mdash; [[Image:User Why Are We Fighting BlackRose.jpg|Contributions]]<font color="#808080">Why 20:40, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Awwwww thnx, but I still haven't got an answer regarding the names for the Nav Bar :P --<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">age [[image:user MageMontu sig.png| ]]<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">ontu 20:43, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Are there more than one for each book? &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 20:45, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually I'm not sure, Last I did the BMP was like 8 months ago, the week that it was released. --<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">age [[image:user MageMontu sig.png| ]]<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">ontu 20:47, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * epic! idk i only see one for the ending of each book. Can you check to see. If there are more than one for each book we should divide it by book, but if theres only 4 then we should just have a link to the 4. &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 20:49, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * In Togo's story there are like small cinematics for introducing the enemy, can be seen here after the pages, are they considered cinematics? --<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">age [[image:user MageMontu sig.png| ]]<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">ontu 20:57, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Idk i really have no idea on that one. I'm thinking one page for each book. &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 21:03, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I say yes. Enough information to list, like major and minor characters, and you can even list the text introducing the enemies as dialogue, as ::text . But don't worry about the layout, we can fix that afterwards. The text and characters, and a couple of screenies (800x432) would be enough :) And Seru, I agree on having one page for each book, essentially they're just missions. Let's treat them like any other. <font color="#808080">&mdash; [[Image:User Why Are We Fighting BlackRose.jpg|Contributions]]<font color="#808080">Why 21:08, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Im making the nav i cant decide between book names or large quest name. &mdash; Seru    Talk 21:11, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Im going with the book name and (cinematics) just in case we want to add those small cinematics. &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 21:13, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * How about:
 * The Battle of Jahai (Turai's Story)
 * The Flight North (Gwen's Story)
 * The Rise of the White Mantle (Saul's Story)
 * The Tengu Accords (Togo's Story)
 * After all that's how are they listed on the BMP article, if too long I say we go with the mission name. --<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">age [[image:user MageMontu sig.png| ]]<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">ontu 21:14, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good. Theres only 4 names anyways. &mdash; Seru    Talk 21:15, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Well, enough for today, I'm logging off again. I'll check back on this project tomorrow ;) <font color="#808080">&mdash; [[Image:User Why Are We Fighting BlackRose.jpg|Contributions]]<font color="#808080">Why 21:17, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * A tiny problem just occurred here, The PC on which I play GW is freakin out, so I have to do the missions tomorrow, don't worry I won't forget. --<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">age [[image:user MageMontu sig.png| ]]<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">ontu 21:19, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok i'll hunt you down if you forget :) &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 21:20, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * =O *hides behind his mother* Mummy! Help Me! we are going a bit out of topic here :P --<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">age [[image:user MageMontu sig.png| ]]<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">ontu 21:24, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

The books have names, and the missions have names -- go for the missions. That's also consistent with every other cinematic article we've done: naming them as Mission (cinematics). I don't see why this should be any different. The books are just items. -- Brains12 \ talk 21:27, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Since there are only 4 confirmed cinematics. i am going with: The Battle of Jahai (cinematic). Untill i see more from screenshots or w/e im sticking with that naming. &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 21:33, 12 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm changing The Tengu Accords (cinematic) to plural as we allready know that mission has multiple cinematics. Mage, since you're the one working on the BMP, feel free to pluralize (?) the other articles if you find out they, too, have multiple cinematics. <font color="#808080">&mdash; [[Image:User Why Are We Fighting BlackRose.jpg|Contributions]]<font color="#808080">Why 00:00, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Togo's has multiple as well. poke | talk 00:19, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * We're talking about the same thing ;) <font color="#808080">&mdash; [[Image:User Why Are We Fighting BlackRose.jpg|Contributions]]<font color="#808080">Why 00:55, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok got all the material (over 250 screenies), but before creating the articles, in Gwen's Story and Saul's Story there is a cinematic with neither spoken nor written text. Do I document those as well? --<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">age [[image:user MageMontu sig.png| ]]<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">ontu 11:17, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * *sigh* That's why the book name actually is helpful ^^
 * I would say yes, MageMontu, they are still cinematics and at least there are persons in it and screenshots possible ;)
 * Done. Feel free to recheck them and fix where necessary. --<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">age [[image:user MageMontu sig.png| ]]<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">ontu 13:35, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * At a glance (and sadly a glance is all I have time for) they look very good. Great work, Mage :) <font color="#808080">&mdash; [[Image:User Why Are We Fighting BlackRose.jpg|Contributions]]<font color="#808080">Why 23:10, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Pictures that need updating
I noticed that The Battle of Jahai picture is in need of an update. Can I ask why? cause if it's cause of the slow motion effect that's part of the cinematic. But if it's not acceptable I have more pics of the cinematic. Hmmm maybe Joko falling off the bridge :/ --<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">age <font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">ontu 16:35, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I think its too blurry. And the part where joko gets stabbed is amazing. &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 16:40, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Unfortunetly, that 1 came out too blurry as well. This is the one I referred too earlier. --<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">age [[image:user MageMontu sig.png| ]]<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">ontu 16:58, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah why dont we keep the one you have up there, but add the something from the part when they're on the on the bridge but not fighting. &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 17:01, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Didn't catch that sry :P --<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">age [[image:user MageMontu sig.png| ]]<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">ontu 17:04, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * xD lol how much work is it to get some pics from that part? &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 17:05, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * These are the ones from before the battle. --<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">age [[image:user MageMontu sig.png| ]]<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">ontu 17:11, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * That last one is fine, at least for now; would be nice to have Joko's whole leg in it. It's better than the one used at the moment, but could still use a little improvement. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|18px|]] Brains12 \ talk 17:12, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll go and redo the mission and bash the keyboard like crazy when at the cinematic. --<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">age [[image:user MageMontu sig.png| ]]<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">ontu 17:15, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey look at the pic labeled "before". Whos the guy in the background? &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 17:27, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

That's an Awakened Blademaster, there are 2 near Joko, maybe his body guards or something. There are too much undead and living npcs to mention, that's why I marked them as Palaw'a army and Turai's army. --<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">age <font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">ontu 17:41, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, now I can make my own movie, because I screenshot every move they made :P. Anyway Here are the 2 images you requested. Image 1 & Image 2. --<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">age [[image:user MageMontu sig.png| ]]<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">ontu 18:30, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * SWEET lol now just make one of those flip books. &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 20:00, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

haha (BlOoD wAz hEre  20:11, 13 August 2008 (UTC))

Pictures with characters in them.
ok there are three pictures that contain player characters in them. I couldnt do much about the dragon lair ones unless you want me to crop it to Glint. &mdash; Seru    Talk 23:59, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

To me they look O.K.
 * I think we can make a better picture for Encounter in the Depths. The first one of the Dragon's Lair looks OK, but I don't like the second.. is that a bone minion there? <font color="#808080">&mdash; [[Image:User Why Are We Fighting BlackRose.jpg|Contributions]]<font color="#808080">Why 07:29, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

I added a picture on Imperial Sanctum
Seru, you might want to double check the picture. As I said, I'll work on NF but I had to do "I was forced" to do Imperial Sanctumnot Sanctum Cay!

theres something wrong with the NF cinematics template
Rally Your Heroes needs to go before Abbadons Gate.... Blood
 * Added. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 18:01, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I may be wrong, but isn't there a cinematic in the quest All's Well That Ends Well? --<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">age [[image:user MageMontu sig.png| ]]<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">ontu 18:10, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, with Goren and Norgu.. my favorite cinematic in the entire game. I believe there are a few quests that have cinematics, though I could be wrong. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 14:12, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * You're both right, I've been trying to get ALL of them. I wasn't the one who made the NF cinematics template in the first place.."thanks Wyn for adding 'Rally Your Heroes'" but I'll try collecting the NF cinematics as best I can. --Blood [[Image:User Blood234 sig icon.jpg |Blood's talk page]]
 * Just remembered that Hunted has a cinematic as well. --<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">age [[image:user MageMontu sig.png| ]]<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">ontu 20:31, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * When I made that template, I knew I was missing quite a lot of quest-cinematics. I couldn'r temember which ones though, so go ahead and add them if you see something that's not there :) <font color="#808080">&mdash; [[Image:User Why Are We Fighting BlackRose.jpg|Contributions]]<font color="#808080">Why 13:41, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Lol, ok..I added General on the template..have the pics on my paint shop just need to start doing it lol Blood

New pages
Heya, I have done Consulate Docks, and Dasha Vestibule I believe they are both complete. I have started Kodonur Crossroads, but it still needs images, and I have expanded Grand Court of Sebelkeh. In Prophecies, I completed The Wilds. I hope they are all up to par, if not please correct them. -- Wyn 18:02, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Nothing more than a few minor edits :) but im too lazy to edit them right now. otherwise they're fine.&mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 18:10, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I fixed them to the best of my knowledge of the standards. Blood [[Image:User Blood234 sig icon.jpg |Blood's talk page]] 00:30, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Another suggestion
I think that on mission pages we should link the word Cinematic to the corresponding cinematic page which is much more detailed, and remove any transcribed dialogue. It would provide an easy tie in between the two pages.-- Wyn 04:33, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I thought about that, but i was shot down by ab.er.rant i believe. Look on the mission formatting talk page. &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 04:35, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * We will just see about that.... :P I don't like inconsistent redundancies.... --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 05:52, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Blah, don't do it! You're opinions will get shot down almost in a 5minute period! Blood [[Image:User Blood234 sig icon.jpg |Blood's talk page]] 07:59, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Good idea Wyn. Also, there was a proposal to put the cinematic dialogue on subpages and include it in both the cinematic page and mission page, I think that might work, but it'd be a hell of a lot of work. [[Image:User Why Are We Fighting BlackRose.jpg|Talk]]<font color="#808080">Why 09:22, 25 August 2008 (UTC) Sorry, you already covered that [[Image:User Why Are We Fighting BlackRose.jpg|Talk]]<font color="#808080">Why  10:28, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL, it was my suggestion. And I think it is going to be the only way we are going to get this to work. In going through all these primary mission cinematics I've done tonight, and their corresponding articles, I'm really dismayed by the inconsistent state in which they have documented dialogue. It's not that tough to go through and create subpages from completed pages, and that would allow for dialogue to be transcribed once, and be consistent in text and format across the wiki. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 10:43, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, my memory is failing at times :P I'll help as much as I can, but I'm currently quite busy with all sorts of introductions for uni :( [[Image:User Why Are We Fighting BlackRose.jpg|Talk]]<font color="#808080">Why 10:52, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * You take care of school, that's much more important. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 10:53, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Captions
I'm getting really bummed by people changing the captions on the images. Taking quotes from the dialogue is much more appropriate than some generic description of the image. -- Wyn 17:10, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I like to make them funny :D see here &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 18:43, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * funny isn't documenting the game, and is really not appropriate imo --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 18:56, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * If there is something for the lines that fits the images then use that. Otherwise its the editors opinion on what to put. It's really open for interpretation, but the person who made the article should have the majority of the say in what the caption is. &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 19:04, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I generally put a summary of either the image, or a quote from the actual dialogue -- whichever most accurately sums up that cinematic; nothing too long, and certainly nothing "humorous". We generally hope that editors' opinions would suit the documentation purpose of the article. --[[Image:User Brains12 Spiral.png|18px|]] Brains12 \ talk 20:02, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Great work Wyn and others on NF
Thats alot of work and time that was put onto NF, I therefore give a "award" to Wyn for her outstanding effort. Blood 23:39, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * signed :D [[Image:User Why Are We Fighting BlackRose.jpg|Talk]]<font color="#808080">Why 20:48, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * here it is.........

Wyn, I hope you like it. You and a few others helped alot. &mdash;<font color="#CC0000">Blood <font color="#330000">  18:25, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, thank you, but it's all just part of making the wiki better. And I am just one of the many of us who have contributed to this project. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 07:59, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Question
Tomorrow I'll be doing Raisu Palace so I thought to document the cinematics for it. But now I remembered that every ally you choose from have his/her own cinematic. Do I still document those? --<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">age <font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">ontu 01:05, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes thats a bit of a odd situation. I recommend doing them in Alphabetical order. &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 01:11, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't feel compelled to do the mission over and over and over and over again though. Those cinematics will be filled up in time. I'll do a couple aswell, once I'm back on GW. [[Image:User Why Are We Fighting BlackRose.jpg|Talk]]<font color="#808080">Why 20:48, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually I did it over and over this morning and have all screenies. I just need them to get off the pc with photoshop :P. (I got rewarded as well cause i got a req 9 Golden Phoenix Blade at the very last part of the last run :P) --<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">age [[image:user MageMontu sig.png| ]]<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">ontu 21:03, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * You tasted the fruit of zeal! (wanted to say something poetic.) [[Image:User Why Are We Fighting BlackRose.jpg|Talk]]<font color="#808080">Why 21:39, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok I started the page but found 1 tiny problem. It seems the template only supports up to 5 images and the article has 7. Can someone fix this. I don't wanna do it cause I'm afraid I might ruin something. --<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">age [[image:user MageMontu sig.png| ]]<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">ontu 23:04, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Tried doing it myself but I kinda screwed the entire layout. Luckily there's the undu button. --<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">age [[image:user MageMontu sig.png| ]]<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">ontu 00:02, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll try if i mess it up thats what brains is for :D &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 00:10, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Should work now &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 00:16, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Nope, still messed up. Take a look. --<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">age [[image:user MageMontu sig.png| ]]<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">ontu 00:20, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Looks fine to me :D &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 00:25, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeap your third edit did it. --<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">age <font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">ontu 00:25, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I was missing some }} the first two times xD &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 00:27, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Last 2 proph missions
Can someone plz finish them? I would myself but i have a bug that messes up the NPC models in that area &mdash; Seru    Talk 23:46, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll do them tomorrow [[Image:User Why Are We Fighting BlackRose.jpg|Talk]]<font color="#808080">Why 04:47, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry guys, I'm totally blogged down with homework and other things, in short, impossible to document those two at this time. I will do them at a later date if they havent been done yet. [[Image:User Why Are We Fighting BlackRose.jpg|Talk]]<font color="#808080">Why 10:18, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll give it a try within the week. Blood [[Image:User Blood234 Blood sig .JPG|19px|User talk:Blood234|]] 16:54, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Sry for the inactivity but I had a lot on my mind lately. I'll do the missions tomorrow since i have some free time. --<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">age [[image:user MageMontu sig.png| ]]<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">ontu 00:16, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yay! &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 00:22, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks for taking those off my load =].. Onward to Factions I go! Blood [[Image:User Blood234 Blood sig .JPG|19px|User talk:Blood234|]] 00:47, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Finished, you may want to check them for errors. Btw, in Aurora Glade (cinematics), there is a part spoken by an unnamed someone. By what she says and the voice, it's clearly Glint. Should I say it's Glint or leave it Narrator?--<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">age [[image:user MageMontu sig.png| ]]<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">ontu
 * Does Bloodstone Fen (cinematics) show the party members? &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 02:07, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * First 1 it doesn't, second 1 it does. Fixed. --<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">age [[image:user MageMontu sig.png| ]]<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">ontu 08:07, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Should we?
I noticed on most quest pages (with cinematics to them) have the cinematic dialouge, should we just remove that and adda quick link to the bottom of the quest page? Are we even allowed to? <font color="#CC0000">Blood <font color="#330000">  02:22, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't edit the quest pages or mission pages until all these are documented. &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 02:53, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * kk, just wanted clerification, thanks man. <font color="#CC0000">Blood <font color="#330000"> [[Image:User Blood234 Blood sig .JPG|19px|]] 03:06, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * We should work out the idea of seperate dialogue-pages and inclusion when the raw documenting is done.. [[Image:User Why Are We Fighting BlackRose.jpg|Talk]]<font color="#808080">Why 05:38, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Like i said this is an issue for later :\ &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 11:09, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Removing the dialoge from quest/mission pages has already been discussed and discarded as it will interrupt the continuity of the quest/mission pages. I would still like to see them cleaned up so that they match and are consistent (going back to my idea of making the dialogue a subpage like the collectors/weaponsmiths that Why mentioned above) but again that's for another day. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 08:02, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Mhenlo's Request
Does Mhenlo's Request have a cinematic? Cause last I did that was loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong ago (did I make my point about the time? :P) and I can't remember. --<font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">age <font color="#CC0000">M <font color="#330000">ontu 20:07, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I doubt it, Welcome to Cantha (cinematic) is the cinematic for the quest that follows right after the request thingy.. &mdash; Why [[Image:User Why Are We Fighting BlackRose.jpg|User talk:Why Are We Fighting]] 20:12, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Going by memory, no. calor   (talk)  20:18, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * No, Seru and I checked a few days ago, and there is no cinematic transitioning from Prophecies to Cantha. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 20:57, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Checklist of Seru
User:Seru/Cinematics Im going to use that page for myself to check all the cinematic pages. That way i know that they are all up to standards and such. Feel free to check what needs to be done. I'll post anything i find that i can't do myself. &mdash; Seru    Talk 00:55, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Jade Quarry
Couldn't find the jade quarry in the list so here are some image and yes i know they are pretty big. . <font color="Orange">Fox007  15:20, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * :O it seems we're missing Defend Fort Aspenwood, Fort Aspenwood (quest), The Jade Quarry (Luxon quest) and The Jade Quarry (Kurzick quest)'s cinematics. Thanks for notifying us! &mdash; Why [[Image:User Why Are We Fighting BlackRose.PNG|User talk:Why Are We Fighting]] 21:04, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh and this was just the Kurzick Victory there's a different cinematic when the luxons win. <font color="Orange">Fox007  [[Image:User Fox007 sig.png|User:Fox007]] 08:33, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

2 Forgotten Cinematics
These are only able to be seen by talking to: Erek (The Jade Quarry (Luxon)) or Kommandant Durheim (The Jade Quarry (Kurzick)) Treesbyty 13:16, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, indeed. I changed the Template:Factions cinematics to include the new missions, I also broke up the "factions" section into "striking back" and "factions" as it was getting way too long. I'm not really happy with what the template looks like now though, especially the names of the new pages, so if any of you has a better idea for that or a new idea to categorise the cinematics, edit ahead. &mdash; Why [[Image:User Why Are We Fighting BlackRose.PNG|User talk:Why Are We Fighting]] 19:26, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * im changing it. the way you had it imo looks bad. &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig5.png|19px]] Talk 20:37, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Looks fine now, tx :) &mdash; Why [[Image:User Why Are We Fighting BlackRose.PNG|User talk:Why Are We Fighting]] 22:38, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Links in dialogues
We had a little discussion about that here. Seru doesn't like links in the dialogue, and therefore prefers to create a Notes or Trivia section. In my opinion, links should be allowed to be added there for the same reason they as they're added everywhere else. &mdash;Zerpha The Improver 07:53, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree on allowing links in dialogue. A simple link can clarify a whole lot, without needing extra headers for trivia and notes et cetera. We do not have to link every single word in the dialogue though, just the ones that are unclear and haven't been linked to earlier in the page. &mdash; Why [[Image:User Why Are We Fighting BlackRose.PNG|User talk:Why Are We Fighting]] 08:09, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree in allowing links in dialogue if it's the first reference on the page. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 08:14, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Mallyx
I'm missing the part where you enter Mallyx's room. It might be short but worth documenting. I'll try to get something next time I run a balanced team in there. (Not planned anytime in near future though) -- <font color="Black">Karasu (talk) 13:44, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Sounds good, that's one of the parts the one part of GW I've never been before. Intended to save it 'till I'm really bored :P &mdash; Why [[Image:User Why Are We Fighting BlackRose.PNG|User talk:Why Are We Fighting]] 20:11, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Kurzick/Luxon Jade Quarry Cinematics
I uploaded a screenshot for Jade Quarry (Kurzick) and realised that both the Kurzick and Luxon sections link to the same image ...help? -- Kivah 16:08, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Added Fort Aspenwood (Kurzick cinematics)
I just added it but haven't got a screen shot. I was wondering about the Jade Quarry ones, they have screen shots so can they be marked as done now? Or are they not acceptable in some way? Crimsonfox 20:52, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Take them from the article I originally wrote: Defend Fort Aspenwood (cinematic). I hope you did not go through the trouble of writing it all yourself when it could just be copypasted? :O Also, the jade quarry ones look like they're fine, I'll remove them. Thanks! &mdash; Why [[Image:User Why s.png|User talk:Why Are We Fighting]] 23:47, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, yeah I did write it myself, didn't take more than 10 minutes though, so it's not to bad. :P Thanks though. ^^ Is there one for the Luxon side floating around? I'll add that if not. Crimsonfox 11:53, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Nope, didn't get to adding that one yet. :) &mdash; Why [[Image:User Why s.png|User talk:Why Are We Fighting]] 17:33, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorrow's Furnace Cinematics
Since all the cinematics don't have dialogue are they still going to be up? If so, it should be noted that every quest have a cinematic - so there are five, not two. -- Konig/ talk 11:55, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It is probably worth noting that there are cinematics, but I doubt it would be worth the traffic of actually creating the cinematic pages. Perhaps fit them all on one Sorrows Furnace cinematics page. &mdash; Why [[Image:User Why s.png|User talk:Why]] 14:46, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Core Cinematics
How many of these core cinematics are going to be uploaded? Since there are two cinematics for every guild hall, not sure how many are wanted for the lists, all or just one per hall or what. -- Konig/ talk
 * I'd say cinematics for the HA maps, if someone ever gets to do that, and a GvG cinematics page, or something. I actually don't think having a page for each guildhall is effective, and as they're not that interesting, I'd say put some info regarding the cinematic (which elements of the map are highlighted, for instance) onto the respective guild hall pages instead. &mdash; Why [[Image:User Why s.png|User talk:Why]] 14:46, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I would do the HA cinematics, but i am not that good of a PvP player to get all the maps. I'll look into the guild hall maps. &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 21:41, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Silence be gone! (aka "What is left?")
This project isn't done yet, but it seems to have gone completely stagnant since last November. Looking through, from what I know, we have cinematics left for the following: We also need a list and a template for the core cinematics, and to add the SF cinematics to the Prophecies template. I'll get to this stuff sometime this week if no one else does. A note about SF cinematics: There is no dialogue, I believe, just visual (cheap Anet... no bloody VAs). -- Konig / talk 08:12, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorrow's Furnace cinematics:
 * Kilroy Stonekin's quest cinematic (not even listed)
 * Unspeakable, Unknowable's cinematic
 * Noble Intentions Plan B's cinematic
 * I'm not sure if Summit Slaves has a cinematic hidden in it, but if it does we need that (if it doesn't, it is the only cinematic free Sorrow's Furnace quest)
 * Mallyx the Unyielding (cinematic)
 * the HA cinematics (there should be 10 in all, but I've never gotten past the Underworld in HA, so I cannot be certain)
 * the Guild Hall cinematics (there are 16 halls, thus 32 different cinematics - but all should have the same text, just different paning over the 16 halls - so it could probably be done in one page with a gallery or some such).
 * Fort Aspenwood and Jade Quarry victory cinematics (the later, at least, are with no dialogue so if we can find a screenshot of the cinematic we can complete them - I dunno about the FA victory cinematics; really wish they were not removed...)
 * Yeah, we're still missing a couple of them. I'm too busy to go document them though, if you want to do it, go ahead ;) &mdash; Why [[Image:User Why s.png|User talk:Why]] 10:59, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Alright, I'll get the SF ones (make sure that they're without va and get screenies add them to the template/list), get the dialogue from the GHs (if they are indeed all shared - I have 2 gh's with both red and blue recorded so I can compare between them at least), and make the GH pages this week. the HA cinematics I cannot do. I'll look on Youtube to see if I can find any good quality videos for FA/JQ's victories and get high rez screenshots of them if I can - if not, I'll make image-less pages with the image needed template on it. -- Konig / talk 05:29, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, it seems we at least have the Kurzicks' JQ cinematic, as they're on this page up above - under a username though. -- Konig / talk 05:35, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I've uploaded all I got for the SF cinematics right now - Unspeakable, Unknowable and The Forge Heart are all that are left for them (unless there is a cinematic for Summit Slaves). I did the Guild Hall (cinematics) page, though it seems that two of the four halls I could get access to (noted on the project page and the cinematic page) don't have cinematics. One thing though: Should the current JQ/FA pages be moved to The Jade Quarry (Luxon cinematics) (and so on) instead of "quest cinematic?" That way, we can include the removed cinematic - however, since it is removed, I'm iffy on the merging bit, so I left it be for now. -- Konig / talk 06:59, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Recordings?
(yeah, I was serious about the special addition note :P). This is just a quick question, and I didn't see it asked before so... Is it possible to upload videos or recordings of the videos, instead of simply having screenshots? If so, I'm going around and recording cinematics with no music background, highest other sounds possible, with the sharpest possible quality of my computer for my own purposes, and I certainly wouldn't mind uploading them for the wiki if it were possible (and I don't mean via linking to youtube or some such - though that is a possible alternative); I'd just need to be told how (I would assume upload file and pic a particular file...). -- Konig / talk 08:12, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
 * As far as I know, the wiki doesn't accept video files. You could ask Emily to change the settings, that has been done before. I must say I'm not sure if uploading such large files to the wiki is beneficial, as these cinematic pages aren't used that much at all and the server's resources may be better spent elsewhere. I'm no expert though, so you can always ask. Youtube could be a possible alternative, or maybe just recording the speech and uploading it to wiki (this too would require you to ask Emily to change the settings, I think). &mdash; Why [[Image:User Why s.png|User talk:Why]] 10:59, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
 * As nice as that would be, probably too much work for its worth. Just scrap the idea. -- Konig / talk 05:29, 30 August 2010 (UTC)