Guild Wars Wiki:Requests for adminship/Auron/Archive 2

Auron
This request is for the sysophood of User:Auron (talk &bull; contribs). Created by - anja   06:25, 11 December 2007 (UTC).

Status
Failed. 16:56, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Candidate statement
Well... it's been awhile since my last RfA. The most common concern on my last one was my involvement with GuildWiki and PvX, and how my time on those might have detracted from my time on GWW. Well... I've stopped contributing to GuildWiki, and my duties on PvX take up about five minutes a day - tops. So rest assured, other wikis won't detract from my time spent on this one. The other concern was about my civility (or lack thereof). I'll be honest here; I call things as I see them. If I think someone is lying to me, I'm not going to show them any respect. If someone is a troll, I'm going to tell them off for it. That's just how I am. If you are interested in a bit of reading, here is my MBTI; it might give you some insight as to why I act how I act. I fully understand that admins are bound to act by what is written in policy, and I wouldn't block or delete outside of those boundaries. As you know, I am familiar with the sysop tools and have used them for quite a while on other wikis. - Auron 07:17, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Support

 * 1) Support. I feel that Auron will be able to bring at least two valuable contributions to the existing sysop team. Firstly his existing sysop experience at other GW-related wikis, and secondly a different (and arguably more forceful) perspective. Although at times he can be overly blunt, there are times where I have felt a stronger admin response is desirable. --Indecision 09:20, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Do i have to write a reason? --Cursed Angel  [[Image:User_Cursed_Angel_Signature.jpg|19px|talk]] 09:51, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Support. Auron will rule police this wiki with an iron fist. While I may find his personality abrasive, he has the best interests of the community at heart. He follows the process, even when he doesn't agree with it or finds it nonsensical. - [[Image:User HeWhoIsPale sig.PNG]] HeWhoIsPale 13:28, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Support. Auron might be blunt, but it's also what we need more of, in my opinion. I trust Auron to always work for the best of the wiki in his sysop role -  anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 13:39, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Tenative Support. Definitely a good Admin, hope certain "dinosaur - themed" vandals don't drive him over the edge. -- Snog  rat [[Image:User Snograt signature.png]] 14:01, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) Support. Under normal circumstances I'd say Auron's too "blunt" to make a good sysop. However, there are a load of numbty's spending far too much time making this place irritating for others - it'd be nice to see someone tell them what they need to hear in a way they may understand. --NieA7 14:14, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) Support- Whilst he can be a little scary, it seem clear that his goals are 100% in favour of the wiki. He knows the policies and I trust he'll abide by them. Although a softer touch with some of the newer users would be a useful quality for a Sysop. Lyra'  Valo' [[Image:User_Lyra_Valo_LVsig.jpg]] 14:23, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) Support- (Do I need 100 edits for this? im at 92 now.) I think Auron would be good as a sysop.--Ryudo 16:10, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 9) Strong support: One of this wikis last hopes. -- [[Image:User Gem sig.png|Gem]] (gem / talk) 17:06, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) Support I think Auron would be a great sysop Fall 17:09, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 11) Support A good choice for sysop. --Valshia 17:38, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) Support. Yes, Auron's blunt and undiplomatic, which would make him a horrible candidate for bcrat, but I can see him doing good work as a sysop. He knows the rules, and I trust him to apply them. He may not set the best example for other wiki users, but I haven't seen anything to suggest he would abuse the sysop tools. - Tanetris 18:27, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 13) Support. Tanetris nailed it.  Calor   &mdash;  talk  19:35, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 14) Incredible Support Auron knows stuff about stuff. &mdash; Skakid  HoHoHo 20:32, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 15) Support Anja summed up my reasons nicely. -- AT (talk | contribs) 21:17, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) Support. Doing stuff best for the wiki > being nice. &mdash; Teh Uber Pwnzer  23:26, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 17) Support He's blunt, perhaps even tactless, at times, but he is the sort of sysop that will improve a wiki. --Edru viransu 01:33, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 18) Support. The majority against you most likely doesn't realize how deep you go.--MP47 (talk) 02:22, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 19) Support --Aspectacle 21:35, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 20) Support. --Santax (talk · contribs) 21:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 21) Support. Yes, he's blunt. But tbh, most of the time a hammer is way more effective than a toothpick. --Wizardboy777 03:33, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 22) Support I do love Auron, while hes blunt, it makes him efficient. [[Image:User Grim Lavamancer Joe torment symbol.jpg]] Grim Lavamancer Joe  00:08, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 23) Strong Support He knows what the hell he's doing.  Also, lol symbolic vote. --71.229.204.25 00:11, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 24) I would rather him ban me, just for lulz factor.  -- Readem  00:21, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 25) +1  —ǥrɩɳsɧ  ƿoɲ  04:32, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 26) +1 Dark Morphon 14:35, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 27) Support Antiarchangel 04:22, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 28) Support [[Image:User Defiant Elements Sig Image.JPG|19x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  07:32, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 29) Armond 10:23, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) Auron's blunt, and it often borders on (and sometimes crosses over into) NPA violations. He's a great guy, and I'm ridiculously glad he's here, but he does the most good without being an admin. &mdash;Tanaric 07:01, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) He's an excellent admin, and the moment I feel the community would do better with him as an admin, I'd support. As it is, though, I feel he can do better to the community as a normal user. Armond 09:45, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) I'll admit that personaly, I'd find it interesting to se Auron as a SysOp in our system. But for the wiki, no. Backsword 09:54, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) I strongly believe that admins should be cool-headed and impartial and have respect for our policies. All of that I don't see in Auron. --Xeeron 11:08, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Erasculio 12:20, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) Strong Oppose &mdash; I believe that Sysops should be devoted to the wiki they are trying to sysop, but he is a Sysop on Guildwiki and a Beaurocrat on PvXWiki. I think 2 wikis is enough. He also tends to throw out personal attacks all into the mix quite loosely in my opinion &mdash;  ク  Eloc  貢  15:17, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) Many of the occasions where I have seen Auron about have been negative ones, often degrading, to some users. I feel the negative aspects outweigh the good, and unfortunately, Auron's view of other users gets the better of him. --[[Image:User-brains12-sigicon5.png|Talk|14px]]  br12  • (talk) • 17:10, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) Oppose. Many people above seem to think his bluntness or "tell it as it is" attitude is an asset. I for one strongly disagree. It goes directly against Guild Wars Wiki:Assume good faith which to me should be more than enough to oppose his nomination. Like Tanaric said, he often moves into grey areas of NPA. Sysops are supposed to deal with conflicts not create them. Many of Auron's comments seem to be emotive and often offend other users. Don't choose a devil to police a devil. I also don't think he should just quit GW sysop and just pop over here.  Anon  17:22, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 9) Oppose.  I see far more negative contributions than positive with Auron.  &mdash;Ebany  Salmonderiel  19:30, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) Pretty much the same reasons as Xeeron stated above. Sysops should have a much different attitude. --Zinc 23:22, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 11) Oppose. While i feel that Auron could do a great job if he tried for a bureaucrat sit (i would support that), i think he (more often than not) lacks on the "people's management" department, so working as sysop is something i don't really see fitting for him. New users may find him more scary than helpful (and those who don't really come to help would love to have someone to argue with).--Fighterdoken 02:32, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) Is Auron a user "in good standing"? He's admitted to trolling and borderline personal attacks. Yes, Auron can be trusted to delete things and block people according to policy (a lot of people could be trusted to do this, really), but are you sure his views of our policies wont influence these actions in some way? I'm personally not okay with handing sysop rights to someone who thinks the system is a joke. And electing him won't change our model of adminship - he would still have to follow policy, and telling trolls to bugger off won't have any admin weight behind it. I agree with the others above that say he would do just as well as a regular user. -  B e X  [[Image:User BeXoR sig.gif|iawtc]] 03:20, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Neutral

 * 1) I think Auron has the best intentions and shown his experience on PvXWiki already, and I know he is a reasonable guy. But he is often too blunt as people already said. I would like to support him, but he should not deal with people like that, especially not as admin, giving other users often a bad example when dealing with conflicts. --Longasc 15:53, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Neutral. Auron would be a very assertive admin which is maybe something this wiki really needs at the moment, but I'm not completely sure if Auron would be a good person for this.. poke | talk 15:55, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Neutral. I feel that I can't make a decision one way or another on this one. -- Lemming [[Image:User Lemming64 sigicon.png]] 17:30, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Neutral. I think Auron really isn't the most charming person in the world and has, frankly, pissed me off before, but I think he has the technical and physical aptitude to succeed as admin. Personality-wise I'm not so sure. I'd say I'd support him if he was nicer, but I don't think he'd be who he is if he agreed to that. - elviondale  (tahlk) 23:17, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Neutral I sincerely respect Auron for his contributions and insights, and I believe in his ability. Being blunt, aggressive, and assertive has its place, but I'm undecided because I also feel it should not be the norm. -- ab.er. rant  [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png|sig]] 01:21, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) Neutral. Like some other people, I am undecided as to whether I think that the GWW is right for Auron to sysop. I feel that it is possible that he would be better suited to a wiki that does put less emphasis on policies. Here, we do not. However, he is a great user who I have a great deal of respect for, and I'm sure that if he becomes an administrator, he will perform it to the best of his abilities.  Ale_Jrb  ( talk ) 16:57, 14 December 2007 (UTC)