Talk:Ministry of Purity

?? -- The Holy Dragons 09:45, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
 * i think we should wait and actually have a page for this guy since he's a regular npc, we just need his name and what quests he gives Getefix 19:24, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Is this going to wind up being an Orwellian thing, where the "Ministry of Purity" is totally corrupt in every imaginable way? –Jette 01:30, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
 * They have a "good guy" start. Though some have quite a rude personality.  Konig / talk 01:35, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
 * So did the White Mantle 75.62.1.43 03:32, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually, they didn't. If you read the manual, you pretty much knew they were oppressive. There were also side-quests in Kryta which showed this, such as Bandit Trouble and more importantly, The False Gods and The Hot Springs Murders. Right off of the bat, we had indications that there was more behind them than what they showed. The Ministry of Purity thus far has nothing against them, as far as I know.  Konig / talk 03:50, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
 * It would be nice if we could either A) get armour/items from them or B) get an initiate of each profession so we can look the part. (Almost has a ring of "Shredder" to the armour, eh?) 199.126.37.144 04:01, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Come on now, don't be naive. Nothing good can come from a Ministry of Purity. Ramei Arashi 04:07, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
 * You can get their armor and weapons - the armor is costume, the weapons can be gained from Iza Yoi.  Konig / talk 04:11, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, and for the shredder look - When Kappa Attack.  Konig / talk 04:11, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
 * When they start focusing on the Am Fah and the Jade Brotherhood, the Ministry start looking more facist. "Let's kill all the Am Fah, and since they're expecting us, let's kill the Jade Brotherhood instead..." Seriously, what does the Jade Brotherhood have to do with all that? The Am Fah are involved with spreading the Affliction, but isn't the Jade Brotherhood supposed to be just a group of idle nobles turned thugs or something like that? (not that i don't enjoy killing them, if only because they enjoy kidnapping little girls.) 80.119.62.237 05:30, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The Am Fah and Jade Brotherhood are said to have been around for hundreds of years, and they both enjoy doing crime in their own fashion. Am Fah are definably the worst of them though, hence why they were the first targets. And your "quote" isn't really the situation. It's more that they're intending to remove the dangers - and Xan is clearly overzealous - they went after the Am Fah because they were attempting to make more Afflicted (and are probably the reason why the Afflicted lasted so long, in fact), but both were threats and intended targets. Xan went after the Jade Brotherhood because it would be "unexpected." Both groups are criminals and threats.  Konig / talk 06:44, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
 * You still have to wonder why they didn't stick to their original plan; instead of "kill the Jade Brotherhood leader" they did "kill all the Jade Brotherhood members on the list and then some". Also, we pretty much know they will turn evil cause of Guild Wars 2. Although, it could also be the new emperor who's into a tyrannical and fascist rule. BTW, when is he gonna show up anyway?174.115.128.216 16:58, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I believe that the reason for going after (most? all? never really said, just said that they know the names of all members) is because the Jade Brotherhood's leader was killed. Twice. Yet they still remain strong with replacement leaders, so just killing the leader won't do anything. As to Usoku: he takes rule in 1127 AE - it's currently 1079 AE during WoC. We won't see him, except maybe as a kid.  Konig / talk 22:04, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Known Members
Just as is done here, I think it would be appropriate to list all known members of this ministry. --Musha 03:03, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Agreed and in the form of a table as per Order of the Sunspear. Not sure if uniquely-named members (e.g., Zei, Xan, and Tsuriai) should be added except for those of importance (e.g., Reiko, Ashu).  Konig / talk 04:00, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

1984
I don't want to say this is a reference yet, or maybe at the least influenced, but the novel 1984 sort of reminds me of the Ministry of Purity. If the Ministry were to take over power, as the idea was slightly brushed upon in this dialogue makes me wonder. Also, with just the theme of loyalty to the Ministry that you see in some quests, just make me wonder if they will just want to create a secular society in Cantha. I look forward to the future quests in regards of the ministry. If they were to take over Cantha, or at least put in place a puppet Emperor, they would resemble the Ministry of Truth in the novel somewhat. Vincent Evan [Air Henchman] 21:42, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Already a discussion going on about this on the WoC page. -- Briar  User Briar Ahoy.JPG  AHOY!  21:55, 9 July 2011 (UTC)