Talk:Selling heros

i disagree with the deletion of this page because people need to know that you can let others use your heros, and just because it seems imposable it can still happen. also it is a way to track the scammers so we know who not to trust.

help save this page Dr Pepper MArine 01:28, 1 October 2007 (UTC)


 * http://wiki.guildwars.com/index.php?title=Selling_heros&diff=413257&oldid=413042 that is why we can't have a list of scammers.--67.159.44.138 01:44, 1 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Can I what prompted to create this page in the first place? Did someone scam you when they offered to join your party to let you user their heroes? Is this something that happens very often? How is this different from people scamming to help with quests or missions? It's not just the heroes. This page is too narrow in scope and too obscure a possibility to be considered useful. And we don't keep a list of character names because it's a pointless and inaccurate effort. Scammers can just recreate characters. Scammers can get new accounts. If a scammer creates a character and then deletes that character, and then someone else creates a character with that same name, how do you expect that new player to prove that he's not the scammer? Keep track of a list of names is not only highly inaccurate, it may also cause a false sense of security. Oh, so that guy's name is not on the list, maybe he's not a scammer. The best prevention to scams is to educate people to be not so trusting. -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png|sig]] 01:53, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

i was promped to create this page because i am trying to be a good player and help people but everyone called it a scamm and nobody thought it was even posible to do so i decided to atleast try to defend the posibility of someone giving their heros to help a quest. i do agree that the whole part of the names of scammers is a bad idea but it sounded like a good idea at the time. also i make it so the only person that can be cheated is me because i start the quest before i colect money but i do think that it wouldn't kill them to trust someone else

Dr Pepper MArine 21:10, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Then I would say there's no reason for this page to exist. If doesn't really document anything. If you're just trying to earn some money helping other players, then you're attempting to take advantage of this wiki. In order to get other players to trust you more, you should consider asking them to pay after you've helped them, not before. Same way that runners usually expect to get paid when they arrive at the destination. -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png|sig]] 01:56, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

I doubt that this needs to be retianed as a separate page, however the ability to lend heros to other players does represent valid information that should be included in one of the hero related articles. Of course having mentioned lending you do need to pass along the possible scamming aspect of this practice. Perhaps mention both in a hero article and include the scam in the scam article? That covers the relevant info from all angles. -- Sabardeyn 03:09, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Technically, you can't "lend" your heroes. You can't "sell" your heroes. You can join a party and add your own heroes. Technically, that's a different thing and it's already covered in hero. As for scams, while we can certainly say that it's better to pay for a service after said service has been performed, I'm of the opinion that those people who get scammed are usually those who don't really read forums and fansites in the first place ;) -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png|sig]] 03:15, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

so since it isn't selling or lending heros what am i supost to say in the party search? "i am joining partys and starting missions so you can use my heros to complete it only 200g pm me"? first off ppl dont read stuf that is that long and second it wont even fit into the space alloted. this is a ligitimate way to make money so i think it should atleast be in wiki but last time i set something up it was shot down without a word so i am glad atleast by putting it in a difirent page there was some debate and a chance for it to stick that i was actualy aloud to be a part of Dr Pepper MArine 03:41, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Well you can say "Helping with missions and quests! 200g PM me, have all heroes capable of many popular builds!" Or something like that. The keyword is "help" rather than "lend" or "sell" :) As for how to make money in GW, it's not something that will get much agreement in a place like a wiki because it's mostly quote subjective. Same with scams. But if you really think things like these are good, a good place to start (imho) is to place them in Category:Guides. -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png|sig]] 04:03, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

however saying "helping with quest/mission" suggests that you are going to go through it with them when all i am wanting to do is give them the tempary control of my heros so they can do whatever they want with them

Dr Pepper MArine 22:00, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, now I understand you. You're saying you join them with your heroes, then you quit? Meaning you give them like control of 6 heroes? I donno, some might want something like that but I'd rather have a full party than a near-full party of heroes. And good luck finding "buyers" of something like that. You could say something like "Lending my heroes for 100g PM me, will quit to give control of heroes" or something like that, maybe. -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png|sig]] 04:02, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

ok that sounds similar to what i use now. i go to ascalon to lend them and if you were lvl 6 would you rather 4 lvl 5-6 players or you and 2 other lvl 20 heros?Dr Pepper MArine 20:50, 4 October 2007 (UTC)