Talk:Bukdek Byway

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Have the quests Chasing Zenmai and The Drunken Master when zoning while not having the quests Eliminate the Jade Brotherhood or Eliminate the Am Fah active. When you zone in, you'll get the zone cleared icon, but you must defeat Drinkmaster Tahnu. Once this is done, you'll get the zone cleared animation - elviondale (tahlk) 20:18, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Or for an alternate solution The Afflicted Guard quest works on my NF char81.77.239.165 21:24, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Well I tried using all three (Chasing Zenmai, Drunken Master, and Afflicted Guard), but that won't count. I had to abandon 1 of the quests to get it to work.  -- UglyLooking 18:05, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I was just flamed at in KC cause someone said it would get me perma banned. Anyone see this as grounds for permanant ban of accounts? Zodiac Sword.png Da Sonic Monday Onyx Staff.png 15:38, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * For those w/o Chasing Zenmai and only having The Afflicted Guard should note that after killing the afflicted guard and surrounding group ~13 kills it looked like the vq meter was about half way filled, leading me to assume there were around 15 more enemies for vq, discounting any pop-ups.The decline 14:58, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I had Chasing Zenmai while going to cap Triple Chop and killed 2 JB and got the cleared area... Bizarre. For The Quin 20:43, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Zen Chameleon?
I Vanquished this area with the "drunken master" and "chasing Zenmai" quests. And after facing Drinkmaster Tahnu I got the message "Zen Chameleon gains a skill point". Hmm, whos that? I had Olias, Master of Whispers and Livia with me. And from what I can tell, Masters real name is Jurah. And it certainly isnt my chars name.--Tommy Mag 20:38, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Either you had a stowaway, or that was an old message from the last outpost you were in, and you just hadn't noticed it. -- FreedomBound [[Image:User_Freedom_Bound_Sig.png|19px]] 15:02, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Shadow's Passage Access Blocked before Vizunah Square?
Reading the main article, I expected the portal to Shadow's Passage in the NE corner to be open regardless of mission progress because it's not marked as conditional like the Xaquang Skyway exit. I just tried to go there with a Factions-born character who has completed only the Shing Jea Island missions, and the portal is blocked off. Does anyone know if this portal is normally open to characters who have not completed Vizunah Square? I assume that's the limiting factor, but it's worth checking here before updating the article. LicensedLuny 06:25, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Something Wrong?
I'm at 159 Foes Vanquished. I have Eliminate the am fah on, and the jade one. The Missing Corpses and That Daughter one. I've walked everywhere but i cannot find the last group. --Mr HaXx 14:15, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Don't need Chasing Zenmai to utilize Afflicted Guardsman's 1 foe to vanquish trick...
It should be noted: You don't need the quest Chasing Zenmai AT ALL if you simply have The Afflicted Guardsmen. It seemed implied from the notes that you needed Chasing Zenmai AND Afflicted Guardsman…which you don't. Taka Ragranok 04:41, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * How do you do it in 1 kill without Chasing Zenmai and with the Afflicted Guard? Taros 20:37, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Bukdek
I notice Buk and Dek are also the names of parts of Minister Cho's Estate. Could these words refer to directions, possibly? --Irgendwer 02:44, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Buk and Dek mean East and West respectively. --Xu Davella 03:10, 10 May 2011 (UTC)


 * In what language? I found: Dōng. Xībù. Nán. Běi. (东. 西部. 南. 北. ) as mandarin for East. West. North. South. — Tennessee Ernie Ford ( TEF ) 03:18, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Feed the Hungry and Vanquisher
Pretty sure Feed the Hungry spawns 2 afflicted groups down the west side of the map and should be not taken if going for the 1 kill vanquish.--Kryzz 18:58, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Lou, of the Knives
Shouldn't he be added to the boss section? I have encountered him at the Southern bridge every time I play this zone for the past couple of years... I've seen reportrs that he is occasionally glitched, not presenting as a normal boss (no aura etc.) but he is still a boss, and from my experience, will spawn consistently, regardless of active quests. Gwynna Vive 10:56, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * if no aura then no boss srry --Dragon7 cape emblem.png The Holy Dragons 11:45, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * "There have been multiple user reports of this boss not spawning in Bukdek Byway, appearing in unusual locations, and occasionally not even functioning as a Boss (lacking a Boss aura, not granting a Morale Boost when killed, and not allowing the capturing of his skills when defeated). See the talk page." from his page; probably should be added to boss list with a note • • •  Ganon  12:29, 21 December 2010 (UTC)


 * So, now we need to determine under what circumstances he appears as a boss vs. boss-like foe. (Ideally, someone should also grab a screen shot of applying an SoC after Lou's death when you cannot capture his skills to confirm his boss-like status.) — Tennessee Ernie Ford ( TEF ) 16:32, 21 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Sigh. Should have read Lou's article first (instead of reviewing the talk page). I've updated GWW's Bukdek to be parallel to Guild Wiki. — Tennessee Ernie Ford ( TEF ) 16:38, 21 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I have had him spawn consistently (with the boss aura, but no SOC to confirm skills cap) with niether of these quests. In fact, the only time in recent memory he did not spawn was while a party member had Zenmai in tow, during "Chasing Zenmai"...and he did spawn with that same party member present several times while "Chasing Zenmai" was active, but without Zenmai in tow.  I will grab screenshot next time I'm there (if I can remember...lol)  Gwynna Vive 02:44, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Dragon's Petal
I saw "Lian,Dragon's Petal" boss here. Rare occasion? or is it because of the Zinn's Task?--Nurrdllles 19:39, 8 May 2011 (UTC)


 * no idea on the quest part but i thought she spawned here too. She actually spawns in wajun bazaar which looks very similar to this area. Justice 23:28, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

vanqing
136 foes, 49min, vanq/maping. The counter is lieing to you if you dont have any spawn altering quests active. I started at Kaeneg City and went east and after 8 kills was over 50% done with vanq. Well obviously that wasnt true and its been covered else where on this page and other zones talk pages. There are 3 spots that can prove difficult to the careless and underskilled/geared teams. The afflicted groups fighting cathan guards between the market place and kaineng city, The sin boss' group + another love pulling together, and past the tripple chop boss the last jade group you will find what appears to be a double size group. That last mob is pretty huge and im not even sure if its two sepperate ones. Wait till they pull together and then nuke the eff out of the casters and mop up the rest. You want an interupter/daze for rits/ele/monks. The jade warriors do some aoe melee so block is less effective then just blinding/weakening them. Beyond the above 3 mentioned mobs, this area has small groups where you outnumber them 2 to 1 and vast sections of the map have no foes at all. Justice 23:28, 31 May 2011 (UTC)


 * The counter is correct at the time it reports to you (e.g. 8 of 16 killed). Most of the mobs become hostile only after a triggering event. Since you have to be exceptionally careful to avoid stepping in it, humans aren't able to avoid doing a full VQ.


 * If you go into other areas where red dots appear and disappear, you can see the red-bar shrink/lengthen, even though you aren't killing anything (the easiest place to see this is in Drazach Thicket; when you take In the Army Now (Kurzick), you can see red dots appear; sometimes, you can even see the Luxon foes falling from the sky and returning. As this happens, your kill counter stays at the same number, but the red progress bar changes.) — Tennessee Ernie Ford ( TEF ) 01:02, 1 June 2011 (UTC)


 * If your vanqing its not very useful to see 50% completion @ 8 foes down. Its lieing to you... Unless you can vanq a zone @ ~ 16 by flagging heros around off screen. The whole point of the progress bar is to see what your progress is. Im not sure why your saying the counter is correct if it isnt information we can use, aka just remove it from the UI. Justice 02:30, 1 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah, it's not very useful. But that's not the same as lying. (Lots of people think that e.g. Gerald Ford wasn't a very useful U.S. president, but hardly anyone thinks he was a liar.)


 * The information is always correct at the time you view it; it's not the counter's fault that we're not skilled enough to avoid the various triggers. A simpler example is Tahnnakai Temple: if you have the correct quest active, you can kill two Temple Guardians and be done; the counter will show 50% done after killing the first. However, if you walk away from the second guardian and trigger the Jade Brotherhood, you end up having to VQ 119 more foes (and the counter changes accordingly).


 * What you are asking for is a VQ counter that somehow figures out all the foes that you might trigger. I don't think that's realistic with the various pops (location triggers) and events (condition triggers) that spawn additional foes; the game can't predict where you might step. In any case, this only matters in a small number of situations, none of them dire; i.e. there's no situation in which the game says that you're almost done at 108 deaths, but it turns out you'll need to kill 300. — Tennessee Ernie Ford ( TEF ) 02:50, 1 June 2011 (UTC)


 * AKA the vanq counter is lieing to you. Im sorry that I didnt say the counter is decieving so dont think your coming out of the vanq with under 20 foes without a quest active. Oh wait...I did say that. Justice 03:56, 1 June 2011 (UTC)