User talk:Shard/English

L. M.  A.  O. Thank you for that.  Raine  - talk  05:24, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Dunno [sic] if it's yet another difference between American English and English English, but...
 * I'm bringing chips, salsa and coke to the party."
 * ...................yes↑........↑NO........↑no
 * Never a comma before "and" over here ;) -- snog  rat [[Image:User Snograt signature.png]] 05:43, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The final comma in a list is subject to debate, with both styles being "correct" depending on who you ask. I've had English professors tell me both ways, in the same school year... :\ Vili &#x70B9; [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 05:45, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm Euro English, and I've always put a comma before the last and of a listing. It clears things up when you've got listings with other "and"s; try making the guest list for a couples' party or something like that. :/
 * "Jason and Holly, Mike and Sarah, and Sean and Rebeccah." [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  Raine   - talk  05:49, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I've also been told both ways are correct, but I give more merit to the way I have it outlined. Commas indicate a pause, and you'd only really exclude one if you're listing two items together as a single item (hopefully not salsa and coke).  I don't know how they talk in Europe, but if they slur their words together in a messy slob of meaningless nonsense, then your way is better ;)
 * Yeah, like what Raine did. ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 05:57, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Sigh - I left school over thirty years ago, they've probably changed all the rules by now :( I'm shit hot on apostrophe usage though ^_^ -- snog  rat [[Image:User Snograt signature.png]] 06:09, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow. And here I thought I was the only person on the interbutz to get irritated by bad ingloosh.  I lol'd the whole way through.  --Jette  [[Image:User_Jette_awesome.png|19px]] 08:32, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
 * If I had a copper Zaishen coin for every time I've been tempted to rant to someone for poor english, I'd be able to get at least 3 everlasting fireworks a day. That being said, this was absolutely hysterical. ~ Ryuu Desu [[Image:User_Ryuu_Desu_Sig.png]][  Talk | Contributions  ] 23:47, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Why is English not capitalized? Bloody hypocrite, tbh.  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  Raine   - talk  06:16, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * "English" is what those blokes across the Pond speak. Vili &#x70B9; [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 06:56, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I was always taught that, if you have 3 items in the list, then you can leave the last "normal" comma out, or leave it in, as both are acceptable. But, if you have more than 3 items in the list, the last comma should be in there. Of couse, this is American English I'm talking about. I agree with Vili, though...it depends on who you ask. --[[Image:User Tero Gein sig.jpg|19px]] te ro 15:08, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * For the record, the explanation I heard for the lack of a comma before the last conjunction in a list was, in short, that it was a ploy by book companies to save money. After all, if you print 5 million books and you save one drop of ink on each comma you don't include, then you're going to save a rather large number of drops; who knows: you might even save a dollar or three total. Anyway, as inaccurate as that is likely to be, that's the explanation I heard. I, personally, use all the commas I can :-P except where they make a splice (and sometimes where they, make a, [sic] splice, anyway :-P) --[[Image:User_Timeoffire45_sig.jpg]]  Timeoffire45  09:34, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Srs topic
We're in a dire position. Certain people don't know how to use who/whom properly, and IT IS OH SO SIMPLE! "Who" is nominative, and as such you can take a sentence with "who" in it and replace it with "s/he".
 * "Who did it?" "He did it."

"Whom" is objective, and as such you can take a sentence with "whom" in and replace it with "him" or "her". Whom also comes after any preposition.
 * "For Whom the Bell Tolls" "It tolls for him"

Another offender is people tacking prepositions at the end of phrases. Major no-no. -- Riddle 06:08, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * "Who does the bell toll for?" "For whom does the bell toll?"
 * Whomru?-- Gah_  23:56, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I couldn't resist. -- Gah_  23:56, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I think whom is becoming archaic. I never see anyone use it except in cover letters.  ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 01:25, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It may be archaic, but that doesn't necessarily make it incorrect. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 02:33, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes it doth. ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 02:55, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Except for the part where my English class last semester discussed whom and no English class has discussed doth for the past few centuries. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 18:58, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

not a fragment
Technically, "They're hard to make up, so I'm going to look for some later." is not a fragment (the sentences are grammatically complete), but "they" and "some" require antecedents to be properly decodable. "Broad head arrow, all their skills to interrupt" is a fragment. --mendel 14:05, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * LOL [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  Raine   - talk  18:08, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * All their base? --[[Image:User Tero Gein sig.jpg|19px]] te ro 15:10, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * /wrists for people being too literal on the interbuttz xD --[[Image:User_Timeoffire45_sig.jpg]]  Timeoffire45  09:29, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

I love this.
Thank you so much for writing this. :D-- Unending fear   00:34, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Have I told you I love you lately?
And this quote is why: "Could you feel the difference? The second one was so well-written that you almost forget how bad his reasoning is." -- *Yasmin Parvaneh*  17:04, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * More so, I actually had to re-read the flawed paragraph again, I didn't recall reading all that in there. I could've sworn the Broad Head Arrow said: "Broad Head Arrow. All their skills are interrupts." Instead of making all their attacks interrupts. I suggest we put a link to this page on the Main Page, or as a free link in a welcome message. The second could be seen as insulting and I sort of forgot where I was going with this. Meh. Harrier 19:28, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

error ? :D
"They might have a slight upper-hand against an elementalist, but that's the only thing I see a Mesmer as being useful for" why is mesmer capitalised, but not elementalist ? :P 129.11.58.4 15:53, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Because the OP is biased towards Mesmers, obviously. Vili &#x70B9; [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 18:16, 9 December 2009 (UTC)