Talk:Nicholas the Traveler/Archive 2

New Location
He's in the scar wanting Dessicated Hydra Claws, would update but don't have full info 81.106.16.151 15:41, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

He is in kessex peak wanting Vails of glass after my guildmates. 82.233.227.216

Not true. Guru joke.
 * Please indent... Add new topics to the bottom of the page, and sign comments with 4 ~'s... also be wise, and verify the information yourself... I dont trust peoples guildmates MrPaladin talk 15:33, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Poisoned Outcrops asking 2 x Margonite Masks per gift - Raxous - 16:09, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * this posting has been confirmed under the lower heading in this section (needs confirmation) MrPaladin talk 17:14, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

I Can't see him there.


 * I have edited the page to add in a bug report, which was confirmed by myself and a guild member. If you have the quest called The Hallowed Point active in your quest log, Nicholas and Yakkington won't appear at the location in the Poisoned Outcrops.  Make sure you ditch this quest before you head out to fight all the way there.--[[Image:User Angel_1.png]] Bunny  - Angel talk 17:35, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I thought I should add, others believe that holding the quest called The Cold Touch of the Past, which is the preceding quest to The Hallowed Point, also prevents Nicholas from spawning. I haven't updated the main page for this, however, because I have not confirmed it for myself and can't vouch for the information directly. --[[Image:User Angel_1.png]] Bunny  - Angel talk 17:39, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I can confirm that The Cold Touch of the Past also prevents him from spawning. Sjeng  [[Image:User_Sjeng_Sig_Icon.png|13px|talk ]] 19:47, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Archive'd
It was really needed. Please continue discussion as you wish. --D AV  A   18:28, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Sylvari connection?
Are we supposed to find out later that Ronan somewhat stumbled on Nicholas' secret gloom seed cache? Jaxom 18:54, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * So um, would you really want to grow something from a seed with a 'gloom' prefix? Hey, I'm in a world where plants try to kill me, hey cool it dropped a seed, time to grow another! Aro 19:33, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Wel, Nicholas says he intends to plant them. And besides, maybe such a pant can grow up to be good, wise and more nicer than the Fissure versions with the proper care and, uhm, Dolyak du... fertilizer. ;). Satrek 21:08, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Or the Sylvari are actually evil and plot to overthrow Balthazar. // HeavenMonkey [[Image:User HeavenMonkey signature.png]] 22:26, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * guys i planted a seed in my garden, gonna have sylvari in my garden :D Infested Hydralisk  22:28, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yep that is a far run. [[Image:Dervish-tango-icon-200.png‎ |18px]]Dero Ahmonati 23:44, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * @Jaxom, there could be a link. "The Sylvari have an innate bond with plants, and each other. They call this the Dream of Dreams. However, concealed within the Dream of Dreams are nightmares, something which the Sylvari do not yet understand."

When you go to the falls you go trough the VENTARI'S REFUGE outpost...hint...hint
 * Sry Guys, you're a bit late, for those of you who have Eye of the North, read on, for those of you who don't and want to spoil a little tid-bit, you're bad people but go ahead, lol joking, anyways: In Arbor Bay, close to center, in the dead center of all the wind rider patrols, there's a small hill with some Krytans in and other tents, etc. on it. Among them is a very familiar peaceful centaur, and his ex-Shining Blade friend, should you travel to this place to pay them a visit, you'll find that they're tending a plant, just don't go in Hard Mode or you'll be attacked by the Sanctuary Guards. Lord Zepherr  June 4, 2009, 16:49 (UTC)
 * Lol, sry, Zepherr, I think people were just joking around. ;) [[Image:User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpg]]Rose Of Kali 05:56, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

You're mixing several timeframe as Eye of the North is set several years AFTER Prophecies... From The Movement of the World:


 * While humans explored the Far Shiverpeaks and the Dwarves fought the Destroyers, a new race began to grow in the southern lands of Tyria. A single seed as big as a man's fist, planted in the ground of a ruined village along the southern tip of the Maguuma Jungle, began a centuries-long gestation—and heralded a new age.
 * This story began with a human soldier named Ronan whom, while separated from his patrol, discovered a cavern filled with strange seed-pods. This cavern was protected by terrible plant creatures, so he fled, clinging to a single seed to show his daughter when he returned home from war. But, upon his arrival, Ronan discovered the Mursaat had destroyed his village and murdered his family, leaving only ruined houses and mass graves. In agony, he planted the seed on their graves and swore never to return to battle.
 * This story began with a human soldier named Ronan whom, while separated from his patrol, discovered a cavern filled with strange seed-pods. This cavern was protected by terrible plant creatures, so he fled, clinging to a single seed to show his daughter when he returned home from war. But, upon his arrival, Ronan discovered the Mursaat had destroyed his village and murdered his family, leaving only ruined houses and mass graves. In agony, he planted the seed on their graves and swore never to return to battle.

Of course only future Nicholas dialog and GW2 source material (possibly some of the GW books too) will give us hints if we were actually part of the coming of the Sylvari into this world. It could be just some random Maguuma plant too... Jaxom 07:02, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, most descriptions of the Sylvari make them out to be a pretty happy and innocent race, not exactly the type of thing one would expect to grow out of a "Gloom Seed", right? (Satanael 16:02, 5 June 2009 (UTC))
 * Nor something protected by terrible plant creatures ;) Jaxom 20:54, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Ever heard of roses? Grab one and you will bleed. The Sylvari could be the gloom seeds that have somehow absorbed parts of Ventari and his teachings (it says so on the GW2 article about Sylvari at least) since he lived and died near the tree. Maybe the plants we fight in FoW are corrupted Sylvari, the ones that have been exposed to Menzies. In that case, it would only be natural for the Sylvari in GW2 to have a hint of the evil that was in their "blood" centuries ago. I'm not saying that this is sure to be the seed that Ronan found, I'm just saying not to rule it out as a possibility :) Paddymew 19:42, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

WTF why does it have a note saying to go to battledepths ?
If you aren't going to keep it updated, don't bother linking to your personal websites.
 * Uhh, where does it say to go to the Battledepths? o.O I clicked on every link, and each one seems to go where it was meant to.  I'm not seeing the Battledepths issue, :)  Where is it? (And could you please sign your comments with four tildes (~), please?) Elysea 07:34, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
 * He was talking about the PvX link which is now up to date. It takes more than 13 seconds to work out the best way of farming something. Misery  08:00, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Gwen connection?
So, has anyone brought Gwen in front of Nicholas/Professor? Is there an easter-egg dialogue between them like there is if you bring her in front of her mother? (Satanael 20:57, 29 May 2009 (UTC))
 * O_o. Hm. I usually have Gwen in my own hero list in our pair that ususally does Nicholas stuff, and I haven't noticed anything. --Star Weaver 21:09, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The only connection so far was revealed in his dialog when he was next to the Eye of the North. Jaxom 22:33, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Gwen's dialogue in Gwen's Garden triggers upon her first visit, regardless of Nick's presence. Tennessee Ernie Ford 03:26, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * HIS dialog, not HER dialog. HE was planning to have a reunion with HER. Jaxom 03:34, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I agree: his monologue references Gwen. I meant to suggest that, to date, Nick's monologues appear to be the same regardless of who has been in the party (in response to Satanael's original question about special conversation triggers). Tennessee Ernie Ford 06:33, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * This was asked before when Nicholas first showed and the answer is the same, there are no changes. -- Azazel The Assassin\talk 15:42, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe he'll go to the HoM someday and have a small dialogue with Gwen before asking for the item. --M age [[image:user MageMontu sig.png| ]]M ontu 06:55, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I think the connection with Gwen is that he knew her before the searing, and he heard that she was alive. So a get-back-together and catch-up-for-lost-times party is in order. At least for me. Bbounty. You are reading this. Click. 13:32, 1 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Hm, Nicholas's monologue is in a dialog box, maybe there was some confusion there? Anyway, Nick and other NPCs and anything but the flowers, apparently, is forbidden from spawning if Gwen's cue'd to do her monologue (which takes place in the dialogue popups ...) --Star Weaver 14:14, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The "dialogue" of a dialogue box is between the NPC and your character, I don't see any confusion. 24.144.19.143 15:47, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Countdown
Heh, haven't been paying any attention to the talk for this stuff for a week or so, so I just noticed the new countdown widget someone put up and that's just awesome. Hope it staves off some of the early "He's in the middle of snake dance asking for 15 stellar core fragments!" edits.

Too bad I have to be leaving for work pretty much right when he changes :D. If I totally missed a big discussion about this already, oops :) --Star Weaver 14:11, 1 June 2009 (UTC)


 * It's not middle of snake dance, it is southern part by Grenth's statue. And its celestial essences. How did you know, anyway? Zweistein 14:30, 1 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The countdown is a nice touch, but someone needs to poke the event timer a bit so that the grammar fits this purpose ("Nicholas' new location has started" is baed.) NickTimer, anyone? -- snog  rat [[Image:User Snograt signature.png]] 15:15, 1 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Howzabout changing the code to, which would translate to, Trading in Nick's new location has started.Tennessee Ernie Ford 15:28, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Using a permanent timer is a really bad idea. The timer was made for big events where a multiple things happen in a short time. Using the timer on a normal article prevents that article from being cached by the server and especially for articles like this with a lot of visitors it is a really bad idea to stress the server unnecessary with something like this. If people are not able to read the first sentences on this page to find out that he always changes his location at a fixed time and use that time to get an idea of if he already has moved or not, then it is really their own fault. poke | talk 15:33, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I would agree with poke, I don't see a reason for the timer on the article. It's pretty clear when he moves. So I am removing (again) the timer. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 02:41, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

No title
Removed the stupid pointless spam. 80.192.149.50 14:28, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

guru is saying he's in the scar looking for dessicated hyrda claws...can anyone confirm? near the teleporter is confirmed by an ally *delphi*

plz sign and add a link Elephant 15:39, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

the scar is a big place, any more info Mortsu 15:41, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Map is uploaded here. poke | talk 15:47, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * plus I can confirm it Mortsu 15:48, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * i can confirm that too, hes there [[Image:Elementalist-tango-icon-200.png|20px]] Ocravia Deathblade  16:03, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Time zone
Can someone add to the article when does he reset on GMT time zone? - KlinH4xx0r 12:48, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * He moves at 11Am Eastern. 10Am Central and 8Am Pacific.[[Image:User DrogoBoffin sig icon.png|Talk page]] Drogo Boffin 12:52, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * GMT = UTC, actually. [[Image:User Xelonir sig.png| ]]Xelonir 12:57, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes but I expect you want BST not GMT if you are living in the UK anyway which is 4pm. -- Lemming [[Image:User Lemming64 sigicon.png]] 13:30, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * We have a wee clock, at the top of the page, which tells you the current time in UTC. Nicholas's article page also tells you what time he moves at in UTC. Based on those previous statements one must ask why we then need any more time zones listed beyond that? If one can not tell the difference between what time it is at the top of the page and what time is states on the article, then surely those people have more to worry about than when Nicholas moves, for example learning how to tell the time. -- Salome  [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]] 13:40, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * That is a point, but bare in mind you can turn the clock off. I have. -- Lemming [[Image:User Lemming64 sigicon.png]] 13:43, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * That's true, but then you don't have any problem with understanding UTC times on an article. One would expect those who do have an issue with it, to leave the clock turned on, to aid them. I keep it on myself as I'm a bit crap with BST and GMT at times. -- Salome  [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]] 13:46, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Need confirmation:
I heard someone put a screenie on something called Guru that he's in Kessex Peak collecting Tempered Vials. Can someone confirm? -- UglyLooking 15:33, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It has been confirmed as a FAKE. -- Lemming [[Image:User Lemming64 sigicon.png]] 15:34, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I heard that people pass off second hand information then expect people other then themselves to confirm the information... if you have a led, check it yourself... then come in here and be a real hero with the real info... you'll be praised and adored for one full week! MrPaladin talk 15:36, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

You know who found him last week?? Did you knew it yesterday???
 * Yep, delphi found the information on Guru, then poke went and confirmed it... delphi was wise to add that the information could be wrong and needed to be confirmed but was very specific about the location... thats how this kinda works... MrPaladin talk 15:45, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * My guess based on previous locations is that he's now somewhere in Cantha. Matek 15:39, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't start that. If you don't know, don't start guessing. No point in spam walls of people making "educated guesses" on a random occurrence. -- Salome  [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]] 15:41, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


 * From Guru OH no I forgot to hit the [[Image:User_Noggieca_sig.png|User:Noggieca]]Noggieca 21:45, 8 June 2009 (UTC) kill me now for I am evil.
 * Nice how about a pic thats big enough to understand.[[Image:User DrogoBoffin sig icon.png|Talk page]] Drogo Boffin 16:12, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Direct link Added information to the page. -- Arduinna [[Image:User_Arduinna_Companionship.jpg|15px|talk]] 16:13, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Confirmed. Ex 16:14, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Instead of sending us to Guru why not just do this. [[Image:User DrogoBoffin sig icon.png|Talk page]] Drogo Boffin 16:32, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Because Guru has additional people confirming his location. Only linking to an image could be an attempt to fool you. -- Arduinna [[Image:User_Arduinna_Companionship.jpg|15px|talk]] 16:56, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Plus, Guru people are bastions of integrity. -- snog  rat [[Image:User Snograt signature.png]] 17:06, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd rather see people on Guru getting flamed for spreading false information than a flamewar on this page. But what are we discussing anyway... -- Arduinna [[Image:User_Arduinna_Companionship.jpg|15px|talk]] 17:09, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

About the Hallowed Point bug.
Had the quest active in the quest log. Traveled to the location, Nicholas was not there. Went back to Lair of the Forgotten to abandon the quest, then went back. Strangely enough Nicholas is still not there! Have no other quests active in this zone. Is he gone forever? Wow this is some bug, now can't get any gift at all.

UPDATE: I just discovered that you don't have to actually 'complete' the quest to get Nicholas to appear, you just need to do the required tasks. Meaning if you want to keep the quest active in your log without collecting the reward, you may do so (useful for mask farming with the powerful staff of mists). After carrying the staff to the Hallowed point, do not return to Buuran to collect the reward. Instead, map travel back to the Forgotten Lair and the 'Hallowed Point' object is removed and Nicholas appears. Afterwards you can abandon and take the quest again to get another staff of mists. Flipper 17:48, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, you might actually need to complete it. The second (I think) location for Nicholas required completion of the undead mission that took place in that area. (Can't test, since all characters I have in Nightfall have completed that chain.) Freedom Bound 17:51, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, to clarify, it was the third location, and that was just so you could actually get the item (juniper branches). So, not really related at all (but still a possible solution). Freedom Bound 17:53, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * My guild ran into problems with this as well, abandoning all quests in the area worked. Not sure if this is relevant but perhaps multiple quests affect his spawn? 86.172.62.50 17:59, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks like The Cold Touch of the Past has a Hallowed Point in it too. Cheers, Nobody. 84.66.98.28 18:14, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yep Bunny had this note covered in the top of the talk page. MrPaladin talk 18:31, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * And if bunny hadn't hidden it beneath where people were talking about Dessicated Hydra Claws, I would never have realised that this was yet another wiki populated with elitist twerps.84.66.98.28 19:01, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Bunny had posted it before this section was made, and also made comment of an edit to the main page... I'm confused how this was considered hidden nor how the wiki is elitist (except we must lock the nick page every week due to jokes/lies)... I think that its been consitantly one of the most reliable sites for information on nicks weekly jaunts thanks to registered members. MrPaladin talk 19:09, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

(ri) The note is getting more confusing, and didn't mention at all when abandoning quests works, so I only paraphrased the information that was already there. Can anyone confirm further when abandoning what quest worked for them? Rose Of Kali 19:12, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The way I understand it is... If you have never done any of the quest chain, he will be there... If you have the quest but have not completed any part of it, you can abandon... but if you have completed the first part of the quest chain (the cold touch of the past) then you have to complete hallowed point as abandoning will not work with the touch of the past being complete... I cannot confirm or deny this from here however... I have never taken either quest... MrPaladin talk 19:17, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * That is correct. I updated the sentence once again, hope it is clear now. poke | talk 19:58, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I think it should be referred to as a 'bug' since it refers to an unexpected behavior or event not planned for in the game. The fact it also requires the player to either complete or not complete an unrelated quest chain to allow for an unrelated object to appear is also indicative of a 'bug'. Flipper 20:24, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * No, I think it is not a bug simply because the quest replaces that location completely; there are different monsters as well, so it is not a bug to me. If you want to farm the Margonites there and you have the quest active (so they don't appear), it is not a bug either, just because the Margonites are not related to that quest.. poke | talk 22:48, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

How did Nicholas (and Yakkington) cross the Desolation?
In the immortal words of Palawa Joko, "only the dead and the demonic can walk the sulphur flats unscathed." Perhaps our old friend Nicholas is hiding something from us! (It's either that, or Nicholas managed to tame Queen Aijundu. No mean feat in itself!) I'm watching Nicholas with a much more wary eye now... - Zaxares 00:33, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I was wondering how he got over there myself but maybe he traveled south through the crystal desert, that is where he was last. --[[Image:User Tenri My image.jpg]] Tenri 01:05, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Good point, Tenri. My girlfriend also pointed out that if he came via the Crystal Desert teleporter, there is a route that takes him to his current location without passing through any sulphurous areas. There's still the question of just how he managed to get past the Forgotten guard at the teleporter, but maybe he bribed him with some Gifts. (Anyone else remember the Razah gems incident?) - Zaxares 01:21, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * How did Nicholas cross the Desolation? How did this nooby guy do it? How did the Elonians do it (those that made it to the Crystal Desert). All very good questions, but there must be some paths that allow for living people to cross it. -- Azazel The Assassin\talk 01:26, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * In-game lore states that there are accounts of living people at Palawa's Bone Palace (or more accurately, during the time of Turai Ossa), which suggests that others in the past have managed to tame Junundu as well. I wouldn't put it past Turai to have managed the same feat, and used them to transport the pilgrims across the Desolation. (Alternatively, they could have just sailed there from Kourna to Amnoon Oasis. It's hard to say when Amnoon was first founded as a landing point for the Crystal Desert.)


 * As for Zehtuka? He probably got himself run there. :P - Zaxares 02:04, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


 * 5 says that Dolyaks are immune to the sulphurous haze. Vili &#x70B9; [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 02:07, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, and by the way, it's *possible* to cross the Desolation without Junundu, even going through sulphur. It just involves many, many deaths and repeated uses of movement resurrections like Rebirth. Vili &#x70B9; [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 02:08, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * If he arrived by taking the teleporter from The Arid Sea to Crystal Overlook, or by walking south from the Crystal Desert, he wouldn't need to pass any sulphur. -- [[Image:User Gordon Ecker sig.png]] Gordon Ecker (talk) 04:24, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * If I remember the lore right, the Elonians that arrived in the Crystal Desert sailed there instead of crossing the Desolation. Yukiko [[Image:User_Yukiko_Sig.png]] 05:32, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * No, those were the Margonites, the Elonians walked there, however the Desolation has been growing since it was formed in the final battle of the war against Abaddon. -- [[Image:User Gordon Ecker sig.png]] Gordon Ecker (talk) 06:27, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


 * In the original Prophecies story, the elonian sailed there ; but this was retconned when Nightfall came out. The Elonian came through the Desolation following Turai and most died there though a few made it to the Crystal Desert. Additionnaly to the single Prophecies+Nightfall cross quest (to kill the scarab queen), there is another Nightfall quest that involve helping ghosts to regroup so they can reach someone who'll allow them to reach Augury Rock (cross-continent runner ? ^^) and those ghosts show up later just on your right outside of the northern exit of Augury Rock when the quest is completed. Jaxom 06:30, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not aware of any pre-Nightfall source specifying how the Elonians reached the Crystal Desert. Elona Reach contains the remains of ships, and the outpost is described as being a former seaport, however I don't think it was ever described as an Elonian seaport. IMO the altitude of the high priests' burial sites relative to the Elona Reach outpost and the presence of salt-encrusted coral around them implies that it was no longer a port when the colony died out. -- 10:52, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

If you take the path from the Ruptured heart you do not need to get into a Wurm. No Sulfur crossings. But yea how did they get that far? NM I just read Cristal Desert > Crystal Overlook > Ruptured heart > Poisoned OutcropsNoggieca 13:03, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * From the Crystal Desert page:

"Legends tell of a time, thousands of years ago, when the Crystal Desert was covered in water. These legends claim that it was the gods who raised the land, leaving it bare and empty in order to give the solitary creatures of the world a place to call their own. If the legends are true, humans were not among those for whom this land was made."
 * So, there was no water when Turai came, because the land was lifted before Turai got there. Nonetheless, it is entirely possible that both the desert and the Desolation have changed a lot since Turai's time. Perhaps the sulfurous wastes were in different places, perhaps the margonites weren't around, certainly there would have been fewer of Palawa's minions, or at least they would have steared clear of Turai and his follower's, given Turai's triumph over Palawa.
 * Anyway, I think there is a history of NPCs making it to places they "shouldn't" be able to. Xunlai Agents do it all the time (though less since the update that made the boxes the interaction point), same with collectors, merchants, henchmen, shrine NPC's like Ascalonian Refugees and other NPCs that seem to make it to the far reaches of nowhere, by themselves, past some of the most ridiculously badass creatures in this universe. My only theory is that Shadow Form is a far more common skill than we've been lead to believe... (Satanael 18:43, 9 June 2009 (UTC))
 * Considering how many mysterious tonics Nick must have, I wouldn't be surprised if he just fed them to Yakkington till he turned into a Junundu and got there that way. Sadie2k 19:50, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to spoil it all for you, but Anet just moved the models. It's a game. Keep repeating: It's a game. – josəph 23:42, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I haven't checked the maps, but I've crossed the sulfurous haze before by wall-hugging like a mofo. --[[Image: User_Ezekial_Riddle_sig.jpg|19px|Talk]] Riddle 23:54, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * @Joseph - Wow, thanks, Buzz Killington. Heaven forbid we want to speculate on the continuity of Nicholas and Yakkington's journey into the Desolation.  I like Sadie's theory the best, personally. XD Elysea 23:58, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

60min to cross a desert ;-) I read somewhere that the elonians that went to the crystal desert took apart their ships to build settlements. Certainly not all of the pilgrims walked once settlements were made, more like some went there by ship once it was established.--Justice 10:31, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * In Thirsty River, the Ghostly Hero refers to the local architecture as being Margonite in origin. IIRC before Nightfall established the location of the Elonian homeland, there was quite a bit of speculation that the Elonians sailed to the Crystal Desert, but no conclusive evidence. -- [[Image:User Gordon Ecker sig.png]] Gordon Ecker (talk) 11:15, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd say he crossed the desolation by hopping on his walking stick while holding Proffessor Yakkington over his head.(marsc 16:26, 10 June 2009 (UTC))
 * That made my day. XD [[Image:User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpg]]Rose Of Kali 18:49, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I dont see any text in thirsty river saying its margonite, but i have read some margonite info and it says some of the settlements were created by them. Ofcoarse its wiki lore and i havnt seen anything sorced but presumably it isJustice 02:04, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Ghostly Hero - Tanetris 02:22, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Thankyou, was only looking on the mission page lol--Justice 18:50, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I've corrected the link in my previous post. -- [[Image:User Gordon Ecker sig.png]] Gordon Ecker (talk) 05:33, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


 * For a brief timeline in it, everything based on the Mouvelian Calender year 175BE Margonites begin settling along the coast of elona. 0(Year of Exodus) crystal desert is formed, but so is the desolation. 174AE (notice how coincidental the date is with when the margonites arrived in the crystal desert) the forgotten move into the crystal desert. 868AE Turai Ossa leads his pilgrimage north to the desert. That just gives you the dates, continuity is already a huge issue. Thought someone might like a quick reference on the times though. 76.123.149.130 05:36, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

for the birds
Is that birds note accurate? MrPaladin talk 16:33, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I've never seen it.[[Image:User DrogoBoffin sig icon.png|Talk page]] Drogo Boffin 16:35, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I've never noticed, but I think I'll go run back out there tonight and see. -Drakora 18:19, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It is accurate, :) I remember seeing it when my boyfriend and I went out on Monday.  It's a Raven, but I'm not sure if it should be put in, because it's not a Raven.  Elysea  [[Image:User_Elysea_ElyseaSignatureImage.jpg|19px]] 18:21, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * And by 'put in,' I mean, 'mentioned as a Raven.' I need coffee...  Elysea  [[Image:User_Elysea_ElyseaSignatureImage.jpg|19px]] 18:22, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It is accurate however I'm not sure if this bird is part of the area or part of the nich, yakkington duo. I cant recall ever seeing it before but it is at the poisoned outcrops site. -- Salome  [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]] 15:06, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The bird was there before the duo, yeah. Was vanqing here a few weeks ago with a guildie, she had me run back across half the map to see the bird she found. Oy. Fae 15:13, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Well that answers that, so no the note shouldn't be on Nick's page, as the bird probably marks the Hallowed point, not Nick. The Hallowed Point being a part of a quest chain in this area. -- Salome  [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]] 15:15, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

June 15, 2009 New Location
And it starts ... Noggieca 15:20, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * YAY!!! I win! I bet a wiki friend that some random would come on and say something to the effect of "The search is on", without actually adding any useful data to the wiki and I was right. He bet me that no one would feel so needy for attention as to post such a pointless message, but i was right, so WOOT! -- Salome  [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]] 15:25, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * WOW, nice and condescending. Back to topic. [[Image:User_Noggieca_sig.png|User:Noggieca]]Noggieca 15:27, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * ahahaha - Auron 15:28, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I won a bet too. It was that somebody was going to be a jerk on Guild Wars Official Wiki. Didn't have to wait long. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.130.22.155 (talk &bull; contribs) at 15:40, 15 June 2009 (UTC).
 * I am tempted to mimic the soon to be IP's with their "WTF! Y h4z n0 1 f0undz h1m y37?!?" but I fear that doing so wouldn't even bring about a thought of them not doing that, But I am curious as to what he collects/says and where. -- Azazel the Assassin/ talk 15:44, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I think this is the first time I've ever woken up Monday morning and had him not be found yet. Glad to finally see one move lasting for a bit! :) [John Hargrove]  [[Image:User John Hargrove sig.png]] talk  15:45, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Just to let you know, he was usually is found in about an hour-3, now that hype is down, it'll probably be 5. Then time to confirm. And he's only been in his new spot for about 20 minutes. -- Azazel the Assassin/ talk 15:51, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I think it may have just been that I woke up extra early on this particular Monday for some reason! XD [John Hargrove]  [[Image:User John Hargrove sig.png]] talk  15:53, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hehe :D Btw. can you say how many different locations are there before he starts again from the beginning? Is there even an end yet? poke | talk 15:55, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * (editing conflict)Well I can say my lack of sleep for some unknown reason prevented me from realizing who you are (you woulda known the last thing I said for sure :P). I'm making a small search *it is fun to find him, but too many possibilities*. I just hope for new lore at every change... >_> -- Azazel the Assassin/ talk 15:55, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Post on Guru says Resplendant Makkun, collecting Sapphire Djinn Essences. Confirm? http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10369450&page=79 64.1.198.130 16:00, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Noggieca, Salome's intent was not to be condescending; he's just frustrated that every single time nick moves this talk page gets flooded with tons of useless "where is he" comments, usually from people who haven't tried looking for him themselves. Such comments are more suited to a forum; they add no useful information to the wiki. Just wait patiently, and check the guru threads for him. As soon as we've confirmed his location we'll put it up.  &not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( talk ) 15:58, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Two wrongs make a right even in Wiki Elitism Land, c/d? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:81.138.247.173 (talk).
 * Lol, you didn't get the sarcasm. And it did have a purpose, that posts like that should have a purpose. --JonTheMon 16:06, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * What is the best place to farm the Sapphire Djinn? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Shai Halud (talk).

Resplendent Makkun collecting Sapphire Djinn Essences - Raxous - 16:02, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Confirmed. --[[Image:User Master Saji Sig.jpg]] Master Saji 16:06, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks Saji! ;-) [[Image:User_Raxous-Wiki-Sig.png]]- Raxous -[[Image:User_Raxous-Wiki-Sig.png]] 16:08, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Confirmed. Ex 16:11, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

SO, WUTZ A GUD BILD TO FARM THEES, DEN? (cue Salome :D) -- snog  rat  16:33, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Bah, troll bait has zero response, ah well. 600/Smite is where it's at, apparently. -- snog  rat [[Image:User Snograt signature.png]] 18:07, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 330 Rit works fine. I assume 55 nec and monk would too. And 130 derv. Pain inverter helps. 76.84.34.210 22:39, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * So, basically every farming build that has number in its name works? cool :] Zweistein 12:31, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Savage
Why are we doing things for a savage that wants to give an obese prince the remains of a majestic living creature? I say off with his head. 68.193.113.198
 * Well, if you don't want to kill the nature spirits known as Djinn, you could always just ask for their essence. That may get you somewhere, but I doubt it. Worth a try. -- Azazel the Assassin/ talk 20:32, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * We're doing that to save the villagers. And it is not as if those Djinn are innocent, after all, they attack first. 145.94.74.23 06:33, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * That's because Abaddon has caused the river Elon to be corrupted/diverted and the Djinn to be aggressive. Paddymew 08:54, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Djinn are like people, they can choose to be good or evil. So says the game manual, so if they attack me, I'll defend myself. The Djinn of Adashim for example, weren't corrupted yet they attacked me. 145.94.74.23 15:46, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * You're all this man's accomplices you're just trying to make yourselves look decent. There are no villagers the Djinn were defending their territory it's a conspiracy against Tyria.  Nightfall was an inside job. 68.193.113.198

Resplendent makuun
next to bokka saphire djinn essences! gogog -muscolo --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:93.103.105.29 (talk).

Bokka Ampitheatre
If you take a quick glance at the map, you may be misled to think Nicholas is out side, he is actually up on the balcony. MystiLefemEle 15:48, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * That's why the route is displayed on the map as well. poke | talk 16:36, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I swear that balcony wasn't there before Nicholas arrived Mortsu 11:37, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I never noticed the balcony before either. Though I guess it was there, same with the little path he was at in the Shiverpeaks. Easy to overlook places would be the best locations for Nicholas. -- Azazel the Assassin/ talk 17:09, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I had seen the balcony before but not the location in the Shiverpeaks --[[Image:User Tenri My image.jpg]] Tenri 18:04, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I hadn't seen the balcony, but I had seen the location in the Shiverpeaks. I got lost up there once while trying to run someone ^^ &mdash;[[Image:User_Ebany_Salmonderiel_Cake.jpg|Cake!|19px]]  Ebany   19:56, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yup, the balcony was there. Still wonder why the walls are so high, sorta hard for people to use it to look at stuff. Aro 01:46, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Not for Bokka in his sedan chair. I remember going up the balcony to take a view when I did some quests for Bokka on my sin. Paddymew 08:59, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Possible Next Location
Based on the movement nicholas has made in the past few weeks, I'd estimate his next location has a high chance of being either somewhere in Istan, or near the Sunspear Sanctuary. Of course, this is jsut a guess, could be wrong. 24.20.244.189 03:14, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * not to be ungratfull or anything but plz dont post guesses they confuse people trying to look for him its better if u look at that place your self and then post if correct :) --Nick123 16:40, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, he was not yet in Istan, but there are many regions where he was not yet (Kryta, S. Shiverpeaks, RoF, Shin-Jea, Kurzick and Luxon areas, Istan, RoT, Asuran Lands, Charr Homelands, Depths ...). Near Sunspear sanctuary does not sound like good guess ... he was already in Kourna and i dont think they are gonna start with repeats untill all locations were used.
 * @Unsigned post above me: Well aren't you just an arrogant little brat. You don't know anything about how they are choosing where to place Nicholas next. The person was just taking a guess. There was no valid reason for you to tear them down and act like you know more than they does. You certainly don't. -- Lustre Of Havoc μιλάω 03:20, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * @Lustre: Overreaction much? Unless you're being sarcastic, I don't see how the unsigned commenter was an 'arrogant little brat' in the least.  Not only does it seem like English isn't their first language, but I've read that over multiple times and see no arrogance at all.  All the unsigned said was that there are many other places that Nicholas could be, and that it's unlikely that he'd repeat so soon.  Where on earth were they ripping anyone apart?  Elysea  [[Image:User_Elysea_ElyseaSignatureImage.jpg|19px]] 04:20, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Psst ... don't reply to trolls ... Zweistein 14:58, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * My guess is somewhere in Factions, given that it's a while since he's been there. He has absolutely no pattern (or maybe there is?), but you still should give the campaigns a relatively equal exposure. Going on that, Factions, or EotN due to the fact that he's visited both of those only once. Of course, I could be very wrong, and we'll find out in a few hours. 118.208.89.78 13:07, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Pre-searing is the next place lol &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 206.162.166.51 (talk &bull; contribs) at 09:49, June 22, 2009 (UTC).

Zen Daijun, temple. 5 Rolls of parchment. Guru picture confirmed too  ~Enar.   hello.  15:36, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Confirmed62.194.115.89 15:45, 22 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I put in a map but i dont know how to display it. Please fix for i have failed :3(Ixillius 16:09, 22 June 2009 (UTC))
 * There already was a map. poke | talk 16:10, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * What was wrong with my map?Rolain1 15:45, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Ya there is now. Thanks who ever put that up. (Ixillius 16:11, 22 June 2009 (UTC))
 * You're welcome ^^ poke | talk 16:12, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I like the reference to Lord of the Rings - "There and back again: A Hobbitt's Tale" BrucePhoenix 17:07, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't like the guessing game. Has anyone ever thought its possible that they programed him with a million possible spawn points and a million different request items? And the AI just randomly teleports there on its own at whatever time ANET decides to press the big, red button labled "F*** with players". It would explain why he doesn't always ask for items in the general area of where he's at, which explains why one of his canthan trips required Kournan quest items. --Rølin
 * His dialog covered the crossover... the item he colelcts always relates to where he is at. not a completely random choice... but yes, the guessing at this point is silly until we see a trend or a repeat... unless your running a gambling house MrPaladin talk 13:04, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It's silly most of the time to try guessing his next location, but the current dialogue seems to directly point to Kryta as his next destination. Wait and see, I guess.  The items are always directly tied to the location, though each location may have several items as a possibility, we don't know yet until he repeats a location/region with a different collectible.  The weekly location may be a pre-programmed series, or may be completely random.  If he is in Kryta next week, I'm going to say it's a pre-programmed series.  [[Image:User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpg]]Rose Of Kali  16:46, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

I think there is kinda pattern: If areas he is in has fairly challenging mobs to farm, he will ask for local trophy drop. If area has trivial mobs to farm (newbie areas and lowlevel lands) he will ask something more gimmicky - odd quest item or material or foreign collectible, basically, anything that would give at least a bit more challenge to get than running from group to group with hero or two and massacring foes.

Based on this i would predict as such:

Kryta - gimmick (uw trophy drop, imho) Istan - material S. Shiverpeaks - local trophy RoF - local trophy Luxon areas - local trophy RoT - local trophy Asuran Lands - local trophy Charr Homelands - local trophy Depths - local trophy

Talk about accurate :) Zweistein 09:04, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * You're a superstar. Rolain1 15:45, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Dialogue
Can't believe no one caught this, but isnt the name of the story he's writing a reference to lotr? There and Back Again: A Hobbit's Tale? [Edit] Forgot to sign syn // <font color="Black">talk  19:24, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm retarded, missed bruce's comment.. <font color="darkBlue">syn // <font color="Black">talk  19:26, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * was about to tell you about that :P..idk there and back again compared to there with yakkington...i can see the "hobbit's tale" and "A traveler's Tale" meh i guess i just have to agree Ganon 19:28, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It is interesting, and most of his dialogue has links to either internal or external "trivia" type notes, but I don't see a place where such would go, given the nature of the pages. Examples being this week's LotR similarity and last week's "internal" lore of Prince Bokka needing bribes (like in the Nightfall's mission). Freedom Bound 19:30, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * How about on Nicholas the Traveler/Dialogue we add a trivia/notes section at the bottom listing all the trivia (with location name before it). And at the bottom of this page's trivia we can have "For all the trivia references from Nicholas' dialogue see here ." An example of the listing would be "Zen Daijun: Nicholas' mentioned writing "There with Yakkington: A Traveler's Tale" is a reference to the book in Lord of the Rings titled "There and Back Again: A Hobbit's Tale." -- Azazel the Assassin/ talk 20:01, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, the reason why I said that, is because the dialogue is transcluded onto the traveler page, so I don't know if it would break anything (I'm hesitant to touch any of this stuff after I broke the wiki a while back adding a campaign column to the research article). Maybe we can ask Poke if it will break anything. Freedom Bound 20:14, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't think it will break it, as long as we keep the trivia below the rest - seeing how the dialogue that shows on the page is what is above the rest. But yes, best find someone who knows the wiki better before changing anything. -- Azazel the Assassin/ talk 20:16, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * As long as you stay within the noinclude tags, you can add as much information as you like on the dialogue page. poke | talk 21:51, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Didn't they learn from last time?
So... Parchment. Rare material. Shoots up to eleventy bajillion per piece, completely out of stock of the traders, no one can buy any armour that week that requires parchment. Same thing happened with linen. Mistakes. Learn from them. 118.208.89.78 23:47, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Wood: Very Common. 20 gold: Very Common => Gifts Pl0x? --[[Image:User_Karasu_sig.png|19px]] <font color="Black">Karasu (talk) 23:52, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, and parchment hasn't gone up at all in price. So, yeah, no mistake to learn from. Freedom Bound 23:53, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * @IP: Actually, it's not quite as bad as it was with Linen. I was in Lion's Arch a couple hours ago, and not only was there Parchment at the trader (220g a Roll), but there was Wood at the Common Material Trader (210g for 10).  I think it's as bad as the Linen because you can salvage pretty much anything wooden and get the materials necessary to craft the Parchment, rather than needing Plant Fibers, which are a rarer drop.  Elysea  [[Image:User_Elysea_ElyseaSignatureImage.jpg|19px]] 23:57, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Erm, if you wait out the Mondays, the prices always drop tremendously as people figure out where to farm or craft the necessary. So, ppls buying armor are mebbe inconvenienced by a day. Parchment & wood were @3x prices a few hours after Nick appeared; by 6 hrs later, prices had dropped to maybe 50% more than last week. So, I would argue that the lesson is for players (not for ANet). Tennessee Ernie Ford 02:23, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * @IP -> LOL--81.246.157.192 07:51, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I punkd myself buying 130 rolls of parchment. At least I sold 10. :D <font color="#000999">Ninjas In The Sky  12:23, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The lesson is to fill up your rare mats tab, then it's never a problem. – josəph  13:00, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Even if the prices turned out bad, Nicholas' collection items were pre-made. It's not like they manually change what he asks for every week. When they programmed the Linen, they programed every other item he takes. So even if there was a lesson to learn, they wouldn't change Nicholas unless they went and reset his rotation while changing the few rare material items. -- Azazel the Assassin/ talk 13:04, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

yea i hate when he takes mats, the mats to MAKE the rare materials go up like a rocket, and the rare materials are out of stock yet somehow arent the most expensiver thing in the game that week i mean there are fewer rolls of parchment then ectos atm yet Ectos still cost you a fortune btu they do need to learn form them(or i need to start hordeing materials like a fiend) and Koing trust me the day he wants ectos youll be on ourside with this--Lord randy taylor 16:50, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Meh, I won't complain until he's in the spawning pools, collecting stacks of armbraces for one gift. <font color="black" face="calibri"> --Saberhagen [[Image:User Saberhagen Wiki Sig5.png|19 px]] (My Talk) 17:02, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Somehow I doubt Nicholas will collect ectos. Although we have only seen him take 2 rare materials thus far, both have been craftable from normal materials - so I bet any other rare materials he takes will be also craftable from normal mats. -- Azazel the Assassin/ talk 18:09, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Your wisdom impresses me Azazel. :) [John Hargrove]  [[Image:User John Hargrove sig.png]] <font color="#990000">talk  01:07, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Just pray that he doesn't ask for Damask, or Deldrimor Steel Ingots. ;) - Zaxares 00:33, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I actually would expect Deldrimor Steel Ingots. It's not like those are that hard to make. And the rare mat prices will only spike to about 900g - the price they spiked to when the Prophecies end-game area was added (with the gold Deldrimor weapons needing 10 deldrimor steel). Also, thank you very much Hargrove. :) *thinks to self that he should really switch his stuff to his accidentally-made-yet-personally-more-liked-named account so that all my GW-related accounts are all called the same...* -- Azazel the Assassin/ talk 02:37, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * As long as it's 1 DSteel per gift, or maybe 2, that's reasonable. It currently costs like 700g to craft one of them in "low" time, just imagine what these would spike to if Nick collected them.  [[Image:User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpg]]<font color="#000099">Rose Of Kali  14:59, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the idea Rose, I think I'll farm a boat load of these. I can't wait until he asks for these and I can spam WTS Deldrimor Steel 5k each.  I like when the "Me first" people panic, it makes me more money.  -Drakora 23:44, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Supply vs. demand. Having the price of something jump up can be a good thing too, ya know? If the market gets flooded with too much of one thing, then it becomes worthless. Case in point, if all of a sudden it began snowing golden snowflakes worldwide, for days...the price of gold could/would drop so far that it would no longer be a standard of wealth and world markets would go into a panic. So, for a week (actually, much less) the price of parchment rises. You should have bought some when it was low, and sold high while you had the chance. Ergo, it is not a mistake to use rare materials for the Traveler. The same goes for all collector trophy items, which are almost all 'worthless' until the demand from the Traveler raises their value. Doing this is a smart, and stimulates the trade market.--209.194.208.116 15:01, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure how your example applies to in-game economics, and I fail to see how because of snowing golden snowflakes, the cost of gold would drop and the economic market would crash.  It hasn't been proven that these golden snowflakes are made of gold.  It could be a lighting effect, spray-paint, or something along the lines of "Don't eat the yellow snow” kind of thing.  It is also currently unknown how much of these golden snowflakes of yours fell during a given time period.  As stated, it could be a millimeter or it could possibly be measured in feet/meters.  So the measure of impact on the current economy can not be deduced, there-by making the statement/example null.  -Drakora 16:42, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Reference?
Is "There with Yakkington" a reference to "There and Back Again" which is an alternate title to "The Hobbit"? Seems to ryhm, unless im pronouncing Yakkington's name wrong.Sox11 02:20, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's probably what Nick is referencing to this time; see notes above. What makes me wonder, though, is... why is there a piece of information about the circumstances leading up to The Searing in an ancient library in Cantha? --[[Image:User Large sig.png|talk]] Large 07:53, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * His dialogue implies that he's writing an account of his personal experiences around the time of the Searing for the Daijun Library as a favor to Durmand. -- [[Image:User Gordon Ecker sig.png]] Gordon Ecker (talk) 08:53, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

+reference to the books about GW 1- GW 2 wich are coming out.
 * Oh, cool, thanks, Gordon. That sounds very reasonable. --[[Image:User Large sig.png|talk]] Large 13:48, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

NM Vs HM?
Gifts havent really been out too long and I dont find my results sufficient enough. But is it possible that recieving the gifts in HM as opposed to NM increases the gifts worth/value? Like it being relative to getting a better "drop rate". (Hope that makes sense...) Any ideas? --Sol 09:06, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * My idea is that the drop rates of gifts aren't influenced by HM, else there should have been 2 kinds of gifts from Nick, like Gift of the Traveler and Uber-Gift of the Traveler. xD-KlinH4xx0r
 * I doubt that the mode of the game determines the drop rate. Similar to Birthday Presents, Lucky Charms from the Canthan New Years events, presents from Wintersay, etc. The chances are fixed in gift items - or so I would assume. Items shouldn't be affected by NM or HM. I'd say that the more commonly found items just have a very high % drop rate compared to, say, mini Yakkington - which is probably a .5% chance or something. -- Azazel the Assassin/ talk 02:42, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm going to have to agree with Klin and Azazel on this one. [John Hargrove]  [[Image:User John Hargrove sig.png]] <font color="#990000">talk  22:42, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thats like saying if you open up your bday presents in a HM explorable area on a double green weekend, you chance of gettting the ggreen mini increases...wait...sum1 go test this b4 the even is over! --68.9.110.29 22:29, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I did get a mini gwen in my b-day gift today.--Pyron Sy 23:12, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I had just this idea and opened 2 birthday gifts (whites) and 85 gifts of the traveller. No green minis. <I>Ghosst</I>  [[Image:User_Ghosst_Ghosst_Sig.jpg|19px|I Make Dead People]]  •  Talk  • 23:25, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Bug at Zen daijun?
Everytime i talk to nicholas he says thank you and some stuff but he doesnt give me the gift and i havent done the thing for this week? anybody got this problem and maybe it has to do something with vanquishing the area cause me and my friend has the same problem but my other friends who hasnt vanquish the area are able to get it...16:23, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Submit a bug report to Support on guildwars.com, this sounds like a bug, if you indeed have not yet gotten your 5 gifts this week. Include both your account and your friend's character name for them to investigate.  [[Image:User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpg]]<font color="#000099">Rose Of Kali  16:45, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Bit late perhaps, but I doubt it has something to do with that; I had the area vanquished before also and had no problems getting my gifts. Still sounds like something is wrong if you hadn't turned in your stuff yet. Hopefully it was fixed for you.--131.174.17.97 14:58, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It must have been a personal bug, I havent gotten round to vanquishing that area, and I managed to get my gifts. Hope you managed to get yours before the end.--<span style="color: darkblue; font-family: Old English Text MT, script; font-size:110%">Neithan Diniem User Neithan Diniem Sig.png]] 16:25, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

I've vanguished every area in GW. Never had problems with getting gifts.84.26.144.104 18:08, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Just an idea... but was your inventory full? I could see a problem with a full inventory and him not being able to give you the gifts MrPaladin talk 18:34, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Arborstone Rez Shrines
Currently, the fastest way to get to Nicholas the Traveler is by exiting Tanglewood Copse into the Arborstone (Explorable) with more Luxon than Kurzick faction points, all you need to do is simply die (As more Luxon than Kurzick points obtained, thus disactivating the closest shrine) and become ressurected at a neutral shrine, after, just go to the right down a corridor and he is in the cave. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:RSS122 (talk).

search has started for the next location......
gg people find him now! 24.233.254.51 15:04, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Are there any wiki mods?
Because it seems the kids got out of school. (Ixillius 15:36, 6 July 2009 (UTC))
 * It's summer break, at least for kids in North America. --<font color="Green">Curse You [[Image:User Curse You sig icon.png|Curse You]] (talk|contribs) 15:49, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I blame the parents. The wiki is not a place for kids to go around rampaging. Anyway, back to my question if there are mods. Because we need some bans in the wiki :/ (Ixillius 15:51, 6 July 2009 (UTC))

<.< That's what happens when 8 year olds find out about MMOs and their related help sties... Revelation Bringer 15:52, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Better question: Does it make you feel mature insulting/assuming someone's age across the internet?  There's something very ironic about this... 68.193.113.198
 * Something ironic indeed. - Tanetris 19:48, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Protection
Mods should protect this page from edition when the location of Nicolas changes.

gotcha
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8925/gw153p.jpg Its german. He's collecting feathered avicara scalps 79.246.150.76 15:51, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * No wonder it took so long :/ Good find (Ixillius 15:57, 6 July 2009 (UTC))
 * How many per gift? Kasei 15:58, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 3 according to the screen(Ixillius 15:59, 6 July 2009 (UTC))
 * Where in the Souther Shivers is that? It's on the page nvm. /facepalm--<font color="SaddleBrown">Short  <font color="Darkgoldenrod">talk to me  16:07, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The party window suggests the picture taker is a W/D, but the skill bar shows R/W or W/R. There's also 4 different names for necro heroes. 76.84.34.210 16:17, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * That's because it's German, they have different names for the professions, looking at the skillbar either D/R or R/D 81.106.16.151 16:23, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * http://www.cubeupload.com/files/879400gw343.jpg Confirming location and 3 Scalps per gift. Albrect Karew 16:25, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed with Anon. German screenshot. The "W" stands for the german word for ranger. And the they simply have two Livias in their team, making one of them a "Shining Blade Necromancer".   ~ D ragon   [[Image:User Zaishen Dragon sig.png|User talk:Zaishen Dragon]] 16:28, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, interesting, thank you. 76.84.34.210 16:32, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Now we just need a way to farm them -_-;; Miskav 16:33, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Just getting to him is probably going to give a lot of what you need. 68.113.151.226 16:37, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 55 monks can farm Avicara in Talus Chute, just like the old troll run. You could also speedclear Mineral Springs, since it's almost entirely Avicara. Albrect Karew 16:55, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Exactly. Simply take Shield of Absorption to guard agaisnt the dual shot rangers with preparations and Mantra of Resolve to stop the warriors from interrupting you, and you can farm the first several mobs with a 55 monk with ease.  Then the portal is right there beside you to start over again.4.88.49.255 17:50, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

(indent) While there pick up a few Icy Dragon Swords the old fashioned way... MrPaladin talk 17:02, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Lame new location is lame (or I'm probably too lazy :\) --J0ttem™ 17:45, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * So Yakkington, a herbivore, wishes to wear the scalps of dead animals. Gotcha. --151.207.242.4 20:23, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Naw he just likes to be pampered... I would assume nick is gonna clean up the scalps and only get the softest of feathers... the yak has a right to feel pretty MrPaladin talk 20:32, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Absolutely, :) I mean, he does carry around Nick's stuff all the time.  I'm just kicking myself for salvaging the 30 or so I got while elite capping in Mineral Springs two weeks ago.  HURR.  Elysea  [[Image:User_Elysea_ElyseaSignatureImage.jpg|19px]] 20:52, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nick does'nt appear if you have Defend Droknar's Forge quest active.--Soul of misery 23:30, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Screenshot confirming Nick will not appear if Defend Droknar's Forge is active. http://www.fliqr.com/image/286.jpg (76.10.154.41 05:35, 7 July 2009 (UTC))
 * I would add that but a) no idea where it would go and b) page protect prevents it, I'm guessing it would be important to note in case people do actually have the quest but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. 81.106.16.151 11:23, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * It's not really a bug, Defend Droknar's Forge has always altered the spawns in Mineral Springs. I should still be noted though. --<font color="Green">Curse You [[Image:User Curse You sig icon.png|Curse You]] (talk|contribs) 15:12, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Nick Speaks
Thank you for collecting a pile of shitty stones to further my own personal profits, now run across two maps and collect more shit for my animal who's not even intelligent enough to know what the hell he's wearing, and come back again next week to kill and collect even more shit like you've been doing for the past 4 years. It's totally worth it, consumables and more .004% chance vanity items. This is, of course, something I would only ask marvelous heroes such as your selves to do. It's every veterans dream to repeat the same f'ing shit again and again and pray that one day the computer dart hits that miraculous .004%. Oh but don't tell anyone I said that, the zaishen and I are infact new and unique pieces of content; people actually existing in a mission outpost is new, isn't it? Yes, yes it is, and you will agree because Anet is wonderful and they said that I was an idea 3 years in the making, that alone means I am a worthy piece of content, and you'd better respect Anet for re-releasing the game with cooler, shinier currency. Also if any one of you complains I'm gonna go sheep-mode and tell you that you need to be quiet, because they're working on GW2, and because you don't know how hard it is to make a game. And that's all I'll say, perhaps I'll even be sarcastic and personally insult you, AND get away with it, so much for those silly wiki policies, who needs them, ha! If you'll excuse me I need to go update my journal with more entries about how I worked for 5 days straight or some such, pity-farming and all that.

PS. If you see them in your adventures, tell the QA team to put on their f'ing glasses and fix your hair. It is TRANSPARENT and weird-looking. Yes, I'm looking at you, silver-haired paragon. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:68.193.113.198 (talk).
 * QQ moar? And congrats on using way more words than are necessary. --JonTheMon 23:42, 6 July 2009 (UTC)


 * @Nick: Hey, dude, no problema. Great tah see youse, as per. Yeah, whassup with those other vets? Too rich to spend time to help, so they just bought themselfs sugaries those lil minis? Wassup they doan thin' they gotta grind no more? This here game is like work, ain't it? Yew jess gotta do what ever is there ta do, no matter how much it pains ya. No point in findin' somethin' else you like moah and spendin' yer proceeds accordionly. Yew jess gots to grind and grind and grind and grind and...


 * And doan gets me started on those folk what decided that they can just suggest somethin' to ANet. Them smarty pants think they too good for the likes of you and me, bein all constructionist when they criticize. Them developers jess causin' trouble sayin' they took them thar ideas to heart, th' moah storage, th' kit packs, changin' names.


 * An' they don't think that ANet rally must makes cash to keep gowin? Tho' I ain't intendin' meself to spen' another nickle on this heah game what grinds me so, shirley I'm within my rites insistin' that ANet cater to me anyhouse? Doan tell me if I want constant new content I have to join one of them thar monthly-fee MMOs? Why, we all know that pay-to-play is illegal! --The preceding sheepish comment was added by Tennessee Ernie Ford 02:02, 7 July 2009 (UTC).


 * Looks like they missed one of the chimps when rounding them up the other day at Chester Zoo 81.106.16.151 03:48, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thats odd, in my game nick is holding a gun to my head and Yak is forcing me to do all this... ohh wait thats only in my dreams... in reality you don't have to do any of this... you can happily do whatever makes you happy in guild wars and theres no need to grief anyone.... shoot why don't cha go have a look at the Zquest stuff... I hear they are popular... meanwhile I kinda like the weekly change of pace, I actually found a part of one map that I had never been to before while hunting the scalps! and I get to help out guildies who are not as well versed in combat in these area's MrPaladin talk 12:41, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, people who want everything given to them without actually having to DO something to get it simply don't fit Guild Wars. This isn't a game where you have certain "rights" whenever the people who made the game add new content that doesn't hurt you at all. If you don't want to explore new content, don't. It isn't illegal not to have done everything. Meanwhile, some of us like new stuff that doesn't remove anything from us, and feel that this is a nice addition to the game. Paddymew 13:00, 7 July 2009 (UTC)


 * @User:68.193.113.198: Please take your trollfest with you and go play WoW. Now move along. -_- Batchie 20:02, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't feed the trolls... [[Image:User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpg]]<font color="#000099">Rose Of Kali 02:02, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Gives the big ugly troll a cookie* xD C4K3 [[Image:User_C4K3_Signature.jpg]] Talk 17:58, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Cookie delivered to the wrong section, you're looking for the one just below this. There be the real trolls of our community 68.193.113.198

Ideas for items he should collect, and to help the ingame economy.
I just had a wild idea. One week, [or for a longer period :)], the traveler should collect 5 ECTOS per a present, [or more :), like 20 :P]. I think that might help the ecto recover, even if it's a little bit. Though there might be the posibility that the ecto would drop, since people sell presents @ 5k ea, and many people have stacks of ectos. We'd have to see... 75.74.169.102 18:05, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Dumbest. Idea. Ever? Ectos would spike a little bit for a short while, as would the presents. And, most likely, very few people will be getting presents that week to beging with, it wouldn't be worth it for your 5 tonics or 10 fireworks that you get most of the time. That means that the presence of ecto in the game wouldn't change much, and the prices would bounce right back to where they were in a week or two. I would take that week as a needed break from farming Nick items and just wait for the next.  [[Image:User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpg]]<font color="#000099">Rose Of Kali  18:26, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 * no fool would buy 1 ecto for a freaking 0.006% chance at something worth anything, let alone 5 or 20. Ecto is plainly moderated by supply/demand. If your so worried about the price of ecto, spend your time instead on asking for a nerf of the cheep ecto farm builds (NOT the creditable ones that actually require a brain and skill). /agree Rose Of Kali, dumbest idea for an item.--<span style="color: darkblue; font-family: Old English Text MT, script; font-size:110%">Neithan Diniem User Neithan Diniem Sig.png]] 18:57, 11 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Purchase price of ectos at the RMT has been between 4.4k and 5k for at least 10 weeks. That's just over 13% variability. If you're concerned about the materials market volatility, why not worry about Spiritwood (dropped over 40%, from 230gp to 130gp)? That took it out of the realm of profit-for-crafting to craft-at-a-loss. If you store cash in a commodity, expect to get burned from time to time. The Warren Buffets of GW are buying ectos now, which will drive the price up again without any government intervention required, allowing speculators to profit nicely. Tennessee Ernie Ford 20:21, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 * As I said before when Nicholas was in Zen Daijun, it seems - though a lack of evidence cannot support this - that all materials he takes can be crafted from common materials - to that comment, John Hargrove (the person who made Nicholas) said that my observation was wise (i.e., giving an implication that I am correct - though I won't say I am and that he meant that). -- Azazel the Assassin/ talk 22:44, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Just because ecto is worth less doesn't mean the economy is broken, gold is worth more, this is probably due to a crackdown on bots and rl sellers which means less gold is in the economy. -- Lemming 23:25, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 * And due to continued SF and 600/Smite farming. I think the main reason Anet is leaving those alone (despite all the whining and moaning) is because a nerf would suddenly and severely affect high-end market, ran exclusively with ecto.  But yes, I do appreciate the bot crackdown, my gold coins are still worth something, yay!  [[Image:User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpg]]<font color="#000099">Rose Of Kali  05:48, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, if SF was to be nerfed already expensive weapons would become WAAAAAY to expensive, i mean most people in GW will never have more then 25k at one time, pretty much only dupers would be able to buy a q9 eternal sword, and @Neithan Diniem people already spend 5k on these presents, ive even sold some for 8k -- so people are more then willing to pay 1 or 2 ectos for that chance C4K3 [[Image:User_C4K3_Signature.jpg]] Talk 17:54, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Dupers? In Guild Wars? Why, where have you heard that funny idea? [[Image:User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpg]]<font color="#000099">Rose Of Kali 21:26, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * There were once dupers in GW, back in the days of the old armbrace of truth fiasco. (lots of people got banned when people had duped tons of armbraces and made trades) But I HIGHLY doubt there are dupers in GW anymore...Underated Skill 12:55, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * @cake- thats a rather odd comment... with my warrior alone (never touching shadowform) I've spent at least 500k plus on him... SF could vanish completely for all I care there are tons of ways to make cash that do not include SF... as for q9 eternal swords... its a vanity item just like any other... but anyway back to the gifts... People already buy the component items for gifts at about 3-5k per gift... people sell the gifts for about 5k... using ecto will not change this... (unless ya do somethign silly and make the gifts be 3 ecto per gift, in that case people will hold onto their ecto) MrPaladin talk 13:36, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, my point was kinda i remember seeing a post on guru, where one sold for WAAAY to many ectos, or armbraces, (kinda the same) and a mini vizu -- if SF was to be nerfed, prices were to go up, not to as much, but they would go up, so would ectos, but not as dramaticly, and the duper thing just came to my mind because i remember that somebody wrote "now we know who's been duping" C4K3 [[Image:User_C4K3_Signature.jpg]] Talk 17:02, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Fair enough :) MrPaladin talk 17:17, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Nicholas the Butcher
Is it just my imagination or did Nicholas just send us all out to slaughter dozens of relatively innocent Tengu and bring back the scalps from their heads so that he could make a hat for his dolyak? And we went ahead and did it. I guess the Tengu Wars really weren't much of a surprise if most people in GW think like Nicholas. I suddenly sympathize with the Sensali.--Shai Halud 14:20, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Innocent? They're hostile. It seems like the humans and most of the Tengu are still at war. They attack random villagers, too. RandomJF 15:04, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Not really war, but skirmishes. When you say war, I'm sure you think of the Tengu Wars, however that only happened in Cantha - not Tyria. The only peaceful clan of Tengu is the Angchu (Talon's clan), the others are hostile. But that is mostly due to them being highly territorial and in the Caromi's case - pushed out of their lands for generations. Tengu, along with most other cultured races, despise humans due to the past events (and in some cases, current) of being oppressed in some way by humans (Tengu, Centaur, and Charr were all pushed out of their homes in Tyria; Elonian Centaurs were forced into slavery and forced off their lands; etc. etc.). That is, of what we know of history and via implications (not all said *mainly that about Tyrian Centaurs* are fact). -- Azazel the Assassin/ talk 18:25, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Um, charr forced off their lands? No. They've been just fine in the Charr homelands trying to take the human lands. Haru 19:44, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * In the past, the Charr lands also included the now Ascalon. You should read The Ecology of the Charr. Charr were not pushed off of all of their lands, but half of their land. -- Azazel the Assassin/ talk 21:39, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * It's usually more polite to point people to what you are asking them to read instead of mentioning a random article name for something that does not exist on this wiki ; ) The article Azazel is talking about is this one. Erasculio 21:54, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

July 13, The Breach
Strange as it sounds, confirmed. He collects 1 Charr Hide for 1 Gift of the Traveler. Flipper 16:18, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Real Childish there flipper, vandilism tsk tsk.74.173.107.209 16:24, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Believe it or not but it is true :D


 * On a side note, I believe this marks a first for the traveler, in that this is the first time he has requested a stackable salvage-type item. Flipper 16:38, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, it's been confirmed, several times, on Guru, with a screen attached : http://i26.tinypic.com/ilko51.jpg 90.5.158.37 16:29, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Could be photoshop but doubtful. Now get a map on the wiki.74.173.107.209 16:30, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I will lol if the farmers try to sell this one for platnums... any low level player could use a build with low level henchies and get this drop... MrPaladin talk 16:32, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * LOL!!!74.173.107.209 16:33, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Love it when Anet gets lazy.
 * Signed for the lazy MrPaladin talk 17:07, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Rofl! This is the most ridiculous Traveler request yet. And people in Lion's Arch are selling them for 1k, Piken's Square selling for 200g-300g...haha. I got all my hides in one run while travelling to Nicolas. Awesome. ☼ Kasei  17:30, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

I just got me and a guildie 5 each extremely easily, saw someone in Piken selling for 500g. -- ne shot  17:34, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * They will scam a few people I'm sure... I could see paying maybe 200 just for the sake that rich people owuld pay the 1k total for 5 just to not bother taking the time farmin it... tho as you say even that does not take long MrPaladin talk 17:43, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Just saw someone buy them for 200g each at Piken. Lawl. People are so lazy :< ☼ Kasei  17:46, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Naw put it in perspective... you can either farm them yourself taking a few mins... or you could be using those mins to be farming something much more profitable... time is money... tho I really dont see there being enough demand for this item for it to come over the 200g mark MrPaladin talk 17:53, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I see. But a few minutes is a very small portion of time. Farming 24/7 imo is very mindless and boring. But whatever floats their boats xD ☼ Kasei  18:41, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

funny enough if he needed 5 per gift, peeps would be selling/buying for probably 100g each. This is a very lazy week for gifts Justice 18:09, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree Anet probably should have made it 5 hides per gift.


 * A gift from the traveler should take at least some effort to obtain, either in time or gold spent. One hide per gift takes almost no effort at all, and tends to belittle their value. Flipper 19:54, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Be quiet you. Karate   Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">19:55, 13 July 2009  (UTC)
 * Oh did you just start doing this today? 68.193.113.198


 * I half expect next week's requirements to be insanely high... you know... to balance out ("OMG-WTF" /cough) the easy factor of this week. <font color="Black">000.00.00.00  04:01, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You know, where I come from a gift is something you give to someone else for free. Not as a reward or as an exchange of goods. [[Image:User Xelonir sig.png| ]]Xelonir 11:23, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Anyone else find it kind of amusing that Nick's standing exactly where the resurrection shrine would be in pre-searing? (If you don't get it: LDoA) --Mme. Donelle 01:36, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nicholas is just a couple of years late to get the title :P Paddymew 15:21, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Pyre Speaks
Just you wait... 250 years from now, when your great-great-grandsteaks are strolling along on their merry comfortable way, my people will reap the vengeance you're about to plant. Every Charr harmed over your petty sentiments for a stone wall will be one finger ripped off the hands of your descendants... No, perhaps we'll rip the nail off first, THEN the finger! See how you like that, Nicholas the Meatsack!
 * Rofl... [[Image:User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpg]]<font color="#000099">Rose Of Kali 22:24, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * This guy needs a hobby instead of spamming this page with anti-Nicholas stuff... -- Azazel the Assassin/ talk 23:17, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Seriously. Yakkington must have run over his dog or something.  Elysea  [[Image:User_Elysea_ElyseaSignatureImage.jpg|19px]] 23:45, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Perhaps Yakkington keeps leaving steaming "gifts" in Pyre's pack? ;) (I do find these posts by Mr 68 IP to be quite amusing though.) - Zaxares 00:23, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * So many of us totally agree with this highly perceptive, noble-minded young man or lady. -- 85.216.92.11 14:47, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

irony
Anyone else feel that todays dialog drips of irony? Nick wantign to be a farmer (the little reference to his Presearing sweetheart Mary was nice too) MrPaladin talk 16:35, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Skelk Claws
Unfortunately, the only place to farm these is in Verdant Cascades- the skelk in dungeons drop Skelk Fangs instead. General path to hit all the skale mobs:



At least you can kill all the skelk in the area without encountering any other groups, except for a couple quetzel in the southwest (I'd recommend heading there first, since they'll sometimes kill-steal the skelk mobs). I've been getting about two claws a run, but mileage may vary. 68.118.255.219 17:41, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism
This page should be protected every monday 14:30 to 16:00 UTC, the vandalism is seriously annoying C4K3 Talk 15:38, 6 July 2009 (UTC) Edit: I just counted the history today, this page has been vandalized 27 times today C4K3 Talk 15:49, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Did you count the vandalism only, or did you include the fixes aswell? (Ixillius 16:02, 6 July 2009 (UTC))
 * I included all IPs, as it was IPs doing all the vandalism C4K3 [[Image:User_C4K3_Signature.jpg]] Talk 14:41, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Those individuals who post phony location information should be banned permanently from the site. Flipper 16:04, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, now ive got a screenshot of the amount of edits done to this page today, and there was more than that, that's what i could fit in one page ^^ My suggestion would be to create something like Nicholas the Traveler/editcopy (like the Main Page/editcopy and then just have this page protected, then when somebodys made a edit to the copyedit page an admin can check out if its true, and then edit this page (i know its exaggerated but its kinda annoying being unable to patrol the recent changes every monday at this time) C4K3 [[Image:User_C4K3_Signature.jpg]] Talk 18:52, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree absolutely. - Reanimated X 18:55, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd go for something like this... this should be ab easy weekly change... instead its a battle to keep the page clean 65.6.156.101 11:03, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I also agree. Or at least semi-protect this article so only auto-confirmed users can edit it. --Silver Edge 20:12, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yay having this page semi-protected fended of all the vandalism this week :D Thx alot Kakarot! C4K3 [[Image:User_C4K3_Signature.jpg]] Talk 16:42, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Psychiatric Analysis of Nicholas
It is evident that Nicholas seems to be suffering from a type of post-trauma disorders. The loss of his beloved Mary and his entire home has lead his brain on a course of trying to equalize the world with his own situation. He feels subconsciously that the rest of the world deserves loss. Consciously he thinks he is just asking other people to do favors for him, but this isn't the case. He is comforting himself with the slaughtering of life, it comforts him to "balance" out the equation of his loss. 68.193.113.198
 * I will see you next week, Nick. 68.193.113.198
 * Lol IP --JonTheMon 19:58, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I just wanna know where he keeps the elves making the gifts... MrPaladin talk 20:00, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, seriously, the IP was funny at first, but now he's just annoying. Temp-ban anyone? *please?* -- Azazel the Assassin/ talk 00:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry I forgot I was dealing with a bunch of babies. There's something explicitly wrong with getting upset over a non-offensive post on a talk page.   68.193.113.198
 * The offensiveness is not what "upsets" me (which, by the way, upset is a too general term, it deals with sad, angry, or annoyed - I am the later most), it's the uselessness and consistency that annoys me. Also, it is offensive - mainly to John Hargrove who made Nicholas. Though if he even cares is a different story.-- Azazel the Assassin/ talk 20:02, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Plus we do try to keep talk pages relitive to the content of the page it talks about... for humor or banter you can take it to user pages or forums... tho at times we can all fall into this at times (see my elf comment above) you seem to desire to make this a constant thing you do... this brings up the nature of the topic MrPaladin talk 20:06, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Well I definitely care about how Nicholas is doing, but I also try not to put too much weight on any given comment or psychiatric analysis. :) Right now I'm just kind of excited because Nicholas' page is probably going to hit 1,000,000 views next week! (I'm guessing on Monday?) I've been enjoying popping in from time to time to read his talk page and watch him climb the "charts" a bit!  As for the above analysis though, well, it was an interesting read, but obviously way off. XD   [John Hargrove]  [[Image:User John Hargrove sig.png]] <font color="#990000">talk  03:43, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I understand it is tough for you to see your child this way. He needs a good father figure in his life right now 68.193.113.198
 * Troll? --Max 2 20:03, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
 * No.. The guy's funny. - Reanimated X 20:12, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Take it easy guys, this is not Wikipedia (thank goodness). As for me, Mr 68 may integrate his point of view into the main article page, why not. Heading: "Nicholas Sandford as a teacher of ethics" --85.216.95.254 23:46, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nice call, he hit 1 million views today. 68.113.151.226 01:21, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Stingray Strand, right when you walk out of Sanctum Cay, nothing else to fight, and there's a ton of em.

Well for me this was really fun. Tons of feathers/granite slabs and some white and black dye not to mention the runes. So thanks for showing me another easy farm :D.84.26.144.104 23:56, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Nice to see fishermans haven and west kryta not so forgotten after all, i kinda like the way they are seldom travelled, makes it feel like GW has some wilderness left :), but lets have some in maguuma soon ;p. Shogun 15:44, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

New Location
So its been a while since he was in elona... probably not vabbi. maybe kourna somewhere? -- Chieftain  Alex 08:37, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * If you look at the previously established patterns, I think you will find it most likely that he is in Cantha, Boreas Seabed is my bet. KJZ 15:50, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Couldn't find him there . That was my first thought also. Maybe i missed it, but he wasn't at Boreas Seabed arena. 84.50.132.52 15:53, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

he might be somewhere in GW:EN again, as he has been there only twice, compared to other areas, hes been 6 times in kryta, 3 times in both cantha and elona, so he might be at north again, but who knows.
 * If you take a look at the number of zones each chapter/expansion has, Proph has on average twice the number of areas the other chapters/expansions have. I would expect him to show up twice as often in Proph as any other chapter/expansion.  KJZ 17:08, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

In the GuildWars Wikia, someone has entered: "NEW Location Issnur Isles - collect Silken Spider Webs 6/1 gift". It's there for 10 minutes now, no one has falsified it yet (http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Nicholas_the_Traveler). -- 85.216.95.254 17:09, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * the ip that made that change also reverted himself... MrPaladin talk 17:11, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, got tricked by my browser's cache ... :( -- 85.216.95.254 17:14, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Vandals don't even put any thought into things. Beknur Harbor isn't an explorable area... And now I don't see the research link for past locations... 65.184.76.241 17:25, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Vandals, or scammers... I see people using this site to try to spike prices and get qick sales... MrPaladin talk 17:27, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * He's in Twin Serpent Lakes looking for 1 Haring per present 83.131.60.174 17:28, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * No, he's not. Checked. Merty 17:30, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Haring? He's into Keith Haring? Now we now what kind of art he likes too. Wow, we're really getting quite the profile on Nick :) 65.184.76.241 17:33, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I lol'ed... you think if your gonna post misinformation you'd try to make it look legit... MrPaladin talk 17:35, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Check better next time - http://s1002.photobucket.com/albums/af146/razor39999/?action=view&current=gw142.jpg 83.131.60.174 17:36, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * God, no >.< . Why Herring? - Reanimated X 17:38, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not even in a position where I can check... but I will revert edits all day on bad/incorrect/second hand information... the picture you provide helps greatly in our efforts to keep the wiki correct and up to date... MrPaladin talk 18:19, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

YES HE IS WHERE THE LAST PERSON SAID HE IS!!!
 * I can also confirm it, I'd post a screenie if I knew how. 68.113.151.226 17:48, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I too can confirm it. I did not believe it when it was posted on guru. KJZ 18:03, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Hes in twin serpant lakes collecting herring

http://img132.yfrog.com/img132/5938/july27traveler.jpg - A less confusing map 173.27.173.188 17:56, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Basically he is collecting 5 bog skale fins >.< --User Ezekial Riddle bigsig.png Rid dle 18:14, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Scoundrel's Rise (NM) is an easy area with lots of skales, I farmed there when getting the herrings for the Black Moa Chick quest. Any AoE specced lvl 20 character can just mop them up. 83.131.60.174 18:23, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * yep I did the same for the moa... just zone and hit those groups of 6/7 MrPaladin talk 18:29, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

I just tried this and there were far more mergoyles than bogs...and I didn't see any groups of 6/7 bogs... what area are you talking about specifically? 65.184.76.241 18:46, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I assume your zoneing there from the mission and you'll have to fight past the mergoyles... but up near the shipwrecked boats you'll see larger groups of them... its best to zone into the other areas rather then back to the mission zone so that you dont have to fight past so many mergoyles and you can get tho's fins instead MrPaladin talk 18:49, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Um. What? No, I'm not in the mission. And as for the rest of what you said, what? I asked for specific areas. "zone into the other areas" doesn't help, lol. I started from the Gates of Kryta outpost and went up and zoned into North Kryta Province, and there were just more mergoyles. Does the "reversing the skales" quest affect the number of Bogs? Maybe that's it. I'll have to look for the shipwrecked boats...65.184.76.241 18:54, 27 July 2009 (UTC) Ok, no matter which point I zone into Scoundrel's Rise from, there are no groups of 6/7 bogs, there are however a very high ratio of Mergoyles. I now have 6 mergoyle skulls to my 1 bog skale fin. There are more Bogs in other areas, like on the way to Nick. 65.184.76.241 18:58, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok rewording... enter Scoundrels from Gates of Kryta (outpost) in NORMAL MODE (thats why here is better then other places, soft targets) fight past the mergoyles to the spot on this map File:Scoundrel's Rise map.jpg marked Krytan chest... around that area you'll see a large concentration of Bog's... after killing them fight the few mergoyles and Zone in to Griffon's Mouth then zone back... rinse and repeat on the easy targets until you have all you need.. and you wont need an overly fancy build as the targets are rather soft unless your a melee MrPaladin talk 19:05, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the map and info. However I was in that area and the largest group of bogs I ever encountered was 3. usually there was just one bog with 2 mergoyles, or a large group of mergoyles. I'm wondering if my quest log is affecting it. 65.184.76.241 19:08, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * yer the 1 bog with 2 merz is common... but I know theres larger groups then that, and I'm sure I didn't hardmode it when I was lookin for the moa... I'll check again this evening when I'm at my home PC MrPaladin talk 19:10, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Um... have any of you managed to get into the bog, as that's where the bog skales are? About a dozen of them.  Rezone into Griffon's Mouth nearby, as suggested before.  The bog is where the boss comes from during the quest that puts a bunch of undead there instead (taken from Captain Graywind, iirc).  So, if you see undead, finish the quest or abandon it.  Also, if you have the quests to travel to Kryta from Beacon's, finish those as well, as they will put undead in the whole area.  Those are the only quests that would affect it.  [[Image:User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpg]]<font color="#000099">Rose Of Kali  19:33, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * any of you? ohh common rose... that hurt... :) MrPaladin talk 19:38, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I think Rose meant North Kryta Province, not Griffon's Mouth 68.113.151.226 20:47, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * that works also... MrPaladin talk 20:48, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Stingray Strand, right when you walk out of Sanctum Cay, there's a ton of Bogs and nothing else in the way.65.184.76.241 19:43, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Just Drakes...NPK, in the swamp to the north east of lion's arch there are the low lvl skale that are easy to kill with simple fire aoe. Nothing facny and NO, being in HM isnt worth it so any lvl 20 can solo these guys easy Justice 07:00, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Nick Speaks Again
Hello good chaps do you have some Herring?? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:68.193.113.198 (talk).
 * "You must go to the mightiest tree in the world and chop it down with.... A HERRING!" *hands out the herring you just gave* -- Nicholas. (Sorry couldn't resist. :<) -- Azazel the Assassin/ talk 09:56, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey don't fucking come here one week and call this shit annoying than come back the next week and act like a retard too, what the fuck is your problem? If you're gonna be a uptight bitch than please be that way --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:68.193.113.198 (talk).
 * Take a break. Possibly include some mouthwash.  [[Image:User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpg]]<font color="#000099">Rose Of Kali  20:37, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 * And please sign your comments MrPaladin talk 20:39, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I am here forever unless them perma ban me. CAUTION SOMEONE IN THE WORLD IS HAPPY!! --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:68.193.113.198 (talk).
 * Don't say you didn't ask for it... [[Image:User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpg]]<font color="#000099">Rose Of Kali  02:52, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I only said that as a one time joke. It's one thing to make one joke, and a completely other thing to make constant insults about a feature. And I laugh at the fact that you called yourself a retard. :) -- Azazel the Assassin/ talk 03:25, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes well we all have to grow up and realize how awful we are, no matter how great we THINK we are. I feel pretty bad for you guys. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.193.113.198 (talk).
 * Funny thing is, it is only you who seems to think yourself as awesome. My luck and flaws are horrible, and I admit that. I am in no way awesome (though some friends would disagree, but meh). -- Azazel the Assassin/ talk 01:08, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow guy nice reading comprehension. "...how awful we all are".  Where did I ever say I felt I was awesome.  Also, constant - "changeless: unvarying in nature".  Every single one of my nick posts are an insult to the feature?  Are your eyes seeing some higher plane of reality?  This one wasn't even an insult in any way.  Again I must ask, what is your problem?