User talk:Wynthyst/Archive/Jan 09

Happy New Year
Happy new Year Wyn -- Silent Storm   00:49, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Happy new year Wyn my love! have a great 2009 and stay fabulous! -- Salome  [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]] 00:59, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
 * "Incontrovertibly unrelated to both GW and GWW" I highly disagree but wish you non the less the Best year ever for 2009!. -- S ilverleaf   [[Image:User Silverleaf sig.png|Special:Contributions/Silverleaf]] Don't assume, Know! 01:20, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Happy New Year! -- Shadow phoenix  [[Image:User Shadowphoenix Necromancer.png|19x19px]] 02:20, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Happy New Years all :D (I waiting til it was actually 2009 in central time :P) --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn/talk 06:07, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Happy New Year! :> poke | talk 16:48, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Happy new year, and may you get a minipet polar bear. The only one who deserves one more than you imho is my wife. Thanks for bringing some manners and maturity to the wiki. 145.94.74.23 17:28, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Happy New Year Wyn -- Kakarot  [[Image:User_Kakarot_Sig.gif|Talk]] 20:54, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Happy belated New Year!! --  W  o  B  [[Image:User Wings of Blood sig icon.png|24px]] 03:28, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Kallisto
She is my girlfriend. She wanted to get an account on wiki so I build her page after she registered. --Rycharde 02:18, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * That's cool, I was just being nosey :D Happy Wintersday :D --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn/talk 02:20, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh Noes!
LMAO check this out! ...xD -- W  o  B   08:13, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * You are weird. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn/talk 08:15, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Ty, ty. I saw that at Wal Mart today xD^^ -- W  o  B  [[Image:User Wings of Blood sig icon.png|24px]] 08:20, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * ROFLMAO, "With opposable arms and gliding action", I so want one now! -- Salome  [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]] 09:25, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * ROFLMFAO. That is hilarious. Sadly, this prooves how much religion has been absorbed with merchandising. -- Konig Des Todes 15:29, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * When you think about it, it sound's depressing. =[ -- W  o  B  [[Image:User Wings of Blood sig icon.png|24px]] 16:54, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Your characters
Have awesome names. 122.106.62.101 04:24, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I was a jeweler for 10 years, and have always loved gemstones (primarily the semi-precious variety), so I thought it would be a different idea for a naming theme. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn/talk 04:32, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Skill bar
Ive changed the Skill bar is it still being deleted??? Dark Defender Dex 02:02, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

My Userpage
Hi, Just a quick word to say that you may notice that some of your userpage things will be on mine. This is only temporary as I learn how to format my own colours and pictures etc.

Hope you don't mind, The Deathless Derv 05:41, 4 January 2009 (UTC)


 * You are welcome to use any/all of my templates, that's what they are there for. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask :D --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn/talk 05:54, 4 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I think I'm finally done with re-doing my userpage! Thanks for the Template, hope you like the new colours I've given it! (could be a bit to bright, but meh :P) The Deathless Derv 14:23, 4 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I have a logo for your nav bar, but I can't upload it due to wiki issues. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn/talk 14:25, 4 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I have made a logo myself, but would love to see what you've created! Will proberly be better than my poor MS Paint attempt. At least I'm not the only one with uploading problems. The Deathless Derv 14:28, 4 January 2009 (UTC)


 * No, you are not the only one, it is a wiki issue that has been reported, but ArenaNet IT is off for the holidays, hopefully they will be back in the office tomorrow, and get the problem sorted. I didn't do anything overly fancy, so don't get your hopes up, but I will upload it when I can and you can decide if you want to keep it. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn/talk 14:31, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Guild pages
Wyn,

I've moved the guild page for Guild:Helping Hand Of Ascalon out of historical because the guild still exists - it's in the alliance my guild is applying to join. However, there's a redirect in the alliance nav - it points to (historical), not the main guildspace - and it redirects (historical) to the main guildspace. Is there any way to fix this? Nbajammer 06:16, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I looked over the page, and I deleted the redirects left from the move. Everything looks fine. You did however fail to change the Historical guild tag back to the guild tag, so it was still categorized as historical. I fixed that. should be good to go :D --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn/talk 07:29, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Just for my information, where were those redirects located? I noticed that in the navbar, the link pointed to (historical), but in the navbar coding it just had the name of the guild. And oops on leaving the historical guild tag in. Guess I got in too big of a hurry. Nbajammer [[Image:User_Nbajammer_sig.png]] 05:12, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm? The redirects were on the (historical) pages, placed automatically by moving it. I have no idea why the alliance nav was redirecting anything, it might have been server cache lag. I didn't touch the nav box. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn/talk 05:15, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I must have overlooked making sure the (historical) page didn't have redirects, or I confused myself in the process, whichever the case may be. I think what was confusing was that the code in the navbar listed the guild, but mousing over it it showed (historical) even though that wasn't in the code. After I fixed the page, I checked it again and it didn't show (historical), but the code was the same as before. Am I making sense, or confusing things further? Nbajammer [[Image:User_Nbajammer_sig.png]] 05:22, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I really can't tell you what happened, when you move a page, the software automatically creates a redirect, those were the ones I deleted. The alliance nav bar simply creates a link if the page exists exactly as it's typed (thus we don't use tags in the nav). When I went to look at it initially after your message, the only code I changed on the page was the guild tag and delete the move remnant redirects. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn/talk 05:26, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Probably just a case of me forgetting to back and tagging for deletion, which I customarily do. Just wasn't sure if something was out of the ordinary, or if I'd overlooked something. Apparently, it's the latter. Nbajammer [[Image:User_Nbajammer_sig.png]] 05:28, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Again, out of curiousity:

 * "Is it possible is the wrong question to ask... ~>Sins  WDB [[Image:Assassin-tango-icon-20.png]] 03:47, 10 November 2008 (UTC)"
 * "I think he didn't mean to ask..." 145.94.74.23 08:24, 10 November 2008 (UTC)"
 * "It would be insanely hard because then... Crimmastermind 08:41, 10 November 2008 (UTC)"
 * "Actually, it might not be... --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:96.233.8.116 (talk). "
 * "He can always farm it like all people do. -- NUKLEAR  [[Image:User NuclearVII signature 3.jpg|19x19px]] IIV  20:52, 25 December 2008 (UTC)"
 * "I agree. Thanks for the update, I always like it when underused skills are buffed to usefulness. And you even adressed hexway while doing so. :-) 145.94.74.23 12:23, 12 December 2008 (UTC)"
 * "Sry, but having a single Elite hexremove doesn't adress hexway... 82.82.176.65 11:14, 15 December 2008 (UTC)"
 * "I can't say that I like every change... MA Anathe 17:24, 13 December 2008 (UTC)"
 * "I suppose I can take comfort in the fact that "big update" still means "big update" instead of "ups we just made bugfix". Whether it actually fixes things... Vili [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 06:17, 14 December 2008 (UTC)"
 * "Any person capable that looks beyond single skill changes will see... 145.94.74.23 19:13, 15 December 2008 (UTC)"
 * "Ehmmm...Iz is working on GW2 and what does creep mean? -- S ilverleaf   [[Image:User Silverleaf sig.png]] Don't assume, Know! 03:29, 17 December 2008 (UTC)"
 * "TBH I prefer Erasculo's response better. But anyways, its interesting.  If you look at the powercreep here you have to ask...  Kelvin Greyheart 05:43, 17 December 2008 (UTC)"
 * "Wild Blow... Vili [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 11:41, 28 December 2008 (UTC)"
 * "I assume that they did not take any adreline skills in the dervish line because... Fox007  [[Image:User Fox007 sig2.png|19px|User:Fox007]] 12:37, 28 December 2008 (UTC)"
 * "That's why some elites were buffed... 145.94.74.23 15:02, 29 December 2008 (UTC)"
 * "I did it with heroes. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 00:18, 29 December 2008 (UTC)"
 * "Its no longer a community portal...  Lilondra  [[Image:User_Lilondra_Eviscerate.jpg|19x19px]] *gale*  14:40, 1 January 2009 (UTC)"
 * I don't get it. What's the difference?  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  Raine   - talk  12:42, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * For one thing, they for the most part aren't walls of text.. for another they aren't speculation or opinion on what ArenaNet is or is not doing/thinking. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn/talk 12:52, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Some of those are parts of walls of text. Also, I wasn't aware that length made a post less valid.
 * Some of those are very much speculation on Anet's doing/thinking.
 * I can pick examples out of each, if you'd like. [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  Raine   - talk  13:20, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * All but 2 of the topics on Izzy's page were stopped by either by being moved, or by sysop request because they had become discussion among users. As the notice at the top of Izzy's page states, that page is for questions for Izzy, not for community feedback/discussion. You are Not Izzy, so you should not be responding to questions put to him on his talk page. If you wish to respond to the OP, do it on the OP's talk page not on Izzy's page. This has been said over and over and over for the past 3 months and it still hasn't sunk in. It's not for users, you or anyone else to provide answers in place of Izzy or the balance team. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn/talk 13:34, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

I may owe you an appology...
On your Jora vs. Livia page, I may have fed a troll. mtew 14:35, 5 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I made that page to feed the trolls.... gives them something truly important to debate. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn/talk 14:41, 5 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you. That is a relief.  I didn't intend to be a troll myself.  Again, I hope you do not mind too much.  While I'm not sure Jora vs. Livia is important, it is fun.  I hope I didn't mess up the fun.      mtew 15:00, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The sheer LACK of trolling on that page and on this wiki makes me wonder why the hell you even bother trying to give them something to do. Let humour slide, else I might actually be forced to show you what trolling truly is. Your definition of trolling is ridiculously wrong. 82.34.128.19 21:43, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank You....
....for being my eyes and ears while I was not wiki-side. &mdash; Jon   Lupen  21:47, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Image:User Nbajammer Sarah Holyspear.jpg
Per GWW:IMAGE, the picture of my Paragon fine without screenshot because it's not taken "in game". See [], 2nd bullet. People need to stop reverting my changes. Nbajammer 05:35, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but I still stand by the fact that if you are in the game client, you are "in game". Just my two cents though. --[[Image:User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png|19px]] Wandering Traveler  05:36, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * NO, character load screen is IN GAME and requires the tag. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn/talk 05:37, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * We can continue the discussion on my page, but according to GWW:IMAGE, it doesn't require the tag. It is not "in game", as I cannot manipulate the actual game in any way, shape, or form. Please take the discussion there. Nbajammer [[Image:User_Nbajammer_sig.png]] 05:39, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry you found the explanations of GWW:IMAGE unclear or not to your liking. I'm not sorry I blocked you, you had blatantly violated GWW:1RR. If you feel I overstepped my authority and wish to start a reconfirmation (which was indicated in the emails you sent to my colleagues rather than taking the time to discuss the situation with me) feel free, simply go to [] and add your name to the Reconfirmation section on the bottom. I do find your stance on GWW:IMAGE rather hypocritical since half of your character images have screenshot tags (all taken from the character select screen I might add) not to mention considering adding necessary tags as vandalism is also a bit outside the norm imo. As I pointed out on your talk page, the tags simply provide copyright attribution. I would like to know what copyright you feel those images should carry since you seem to feel they are not ArenaNet. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn/talk 18:48, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Additionally the Image in Question here has had the screenshot Tag for all the time until you reuploaded the same Image (just a little bit darker) and removed it. So why should it suddenly not be a screenshot anymore? -- Silent Storm  [[Image:User SilentStorm MySig.png|Talk to me|19px]] 18:59, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Help!
Hey Wyn, if you have time can you have a look at the recent uploads by Jdoggivjc because I've been trying to move them for the last hour, some work but most fail as in they get redirected to the new image name but the image doesn't actualy move. I would continue but I also wanted to see if it was just me that they were failing for ... that and the fact I'm supposed to be getting up for work in around 5 hours and should really get some sleep. -- Kakarot  05:43, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * *mutters something unintelligible about "experimental" features* Vili [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 05:53, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I believe I got them all, and fixed all his links. The did work just fine for me. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn/talk 06:24, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * It worked for me too without any problems.. Just Pling's first try failed :P poke | talk 08:04, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Hello Again
It's your neighborhood ask a million questions dj.. haha. I was wondering if u Know if they have mad a Temp let for the canthan new year items. You know so u can keep track of what u Have. If you know of one that would be Great. Or If there isn't One maybe i will try and make one ^.^ anyways either way thanks for you help in advanced!! - Kelli   11:32, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * You mean the feast ingredients? I don't believe there is a template, but I can make one. Just to let you know my guild already has everything to host a district for the entire day of the feast and Blade Radio is invited to join the party :D I don't announce the district until the time comes, because I don't like choosing district1, last year we were in int d11. Anyway, I can whip up a feast ingredients template for you if you wish :D --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn/talk 11:39, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Try this Kelli User:Wynthyst/Template/Canthan Feast I think that will do the trick for you. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn/talk 12:12, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Wynn i now say you are the Greatest!! I was just trying to play around with that... Haha save me lots of time. LOL I'm getting better but still learning! Thanks Again ^.^ YOU ROCK!!! - Kelli  [[Image:User_Tesla_Kellisig2.jpg]] 12:26, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks Wyn, i needed that to. --Burning Freebies 17:06, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

el oh el
(diff) (hist). . User talk:208.22.79.249‎; 19:07. . (-484) . . 208.22.79.249 (Talk) (Removing all content from page)

Have fun with that Wyn. I almost reverted, then my senses came to me and I realised that he doesn't like me very much so I should probably leave his talk page alone and stop antagonising people today. Misery 17:09, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for that consideration. And I've already dealt with it. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn/talk 17:12, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Perhaps they don't teach interpersonal skills at Virginia Commonwealth University? Ghosst  [[Image:User_Ghosst_Ghosst_Sig.jpg|19px|I Make Dead People]]  •  Talk  •

Making My User Page
Hi Wynthyst,I'm trying to make a nice user page like you have, but I don't know how to link more than one page together. I found the template for a character page, but so far have not found a good user page template. My current user page is just of my warrior, but I'd like to have a page for each of my chars and about me. If you can help I'd appreciate it. I'm not a big web page builder LOL but I'd like to give it a wing. Thanks, Mari 21:09, 10 January 2009 (UTC)Mari
 * Sure, the way you link them together is just create links. Most people use some form of navigation bar. To create a link to a subpage of your userspace in wikicode it should look like  . replacing  with whatever the title is for that subpage. What will show up as a link is just the name of the page. You can find other editing help at Help:Editing, though I'm happy to answer your questions. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn/talk 15:00, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 * So if you wanted to move your warrior information to it's own page the link to it would be  . Then just click on the red link and it will take you to the edit screen of that page where you can paste your warrior information. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn/talk 15:09, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps what I need to know then is how to make subpages, as I have figured out the template thing. Thanks. Mari 21:09, 10 January 2009 (UTC)Mari
 * Well, I basically explained that above. If you want to make a subpage for your warrior create a link User:Mari/Acantha Mnembo and click on it. It will take you to the edit page. The User:Mari designates your userspace, the / designates the subpage name. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn/talk 02:11, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

LOL Yes I figured that out, now if I could only find a good User page template :P. Mari 18:03, 11 January 2009 (UTC)Mari
 * Well, look around.. find a page you like and copy it :D --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn/talk 18:06, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

quick help plz
how do you change your name, so i can make it more exciting? --Fusylum 19:39, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 * You...can't? --[[Image: User_Ezekial_Riddle_sig.jpg|19px|Talk]] Riddle 21:11, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Do you maybe mean your signature? There is help at the sign policy and the signature help page - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 22:04, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh noes Kelli again
Hey Wyn Hope all is well. I've been working on Ct Pound'spage... Trying to figure out your template. Can u look it over and make sure i did everything ok on that. it's like 4 am here. haha. well i'moff to bed thanks so much - Kelli   11:35, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
 * You made one slight error on one of the subpages, which is why it wasn't laying out quite right. I fixed it and made a couple of minor changes for aesthetic purposes, other than that you did very well. The userbox table will move over as more text gets added to the sections on the left. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn/talk 12:09, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much for doing that ^.^- Kelli  [[Image:User_Tesla_Kellisig2.jpg]] 10:02, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

You are
Too fast. -- Antioch 17:07, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Canthan New Year
Why are you against documenting information which people have demonstrated a desire to know? Even on the talk page people have queried when the event is never mind the many times people have expressed they would like to find out about weekend dates sooner than the short time period prior we are currently given. We have that information and a very reliable source for it, I don't understand why you removed it from the wiki. 122.105.153.221 10:45, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Because until it is officially announced on gw.com, we don't really know when it's going to be, let alone any specific information to document. People can speculate all they want on the talk page. This is the rule of thumb for all event pages. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn/talk 10:51, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Arena Net has confirmed on a GWO thread that the event will take place on 27th January-2nd February. However, i guess making an event page isnt a good idea yet, because there are limited details on the event. I mean, Arena net could totally change it. --Burning Freebies 19:36, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism
Hello Wyn! If you look in my userpage history, there has been a case of vandalism. Could you do something to the offender (who is using an IP address) to stop him editing my page please? Thanks, --Burning Freebies 19:36, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Normally, you would take it to the Admin noticeboard because Wyn isn't always around. Also, I've already reported it. --JonTheMon 19:38, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Wyn, please can you help restructure my page after that vandal ruied it. He has deleted my Character tables, my nav bar setup, everything. --Burning Freebies 20:10, 13 January 2009 (UTC) (Woops, forgot i could undo it all)

Images
Hey Wyn,

I saw you uploaded those image "banners" for Kelli and Frozenwind. How did you make them? --Burning Freebies 17:01, 14 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry about the RC spam --Burning Freebies 17:02, 14 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Trade secret :D --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn/talk 17:03, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Lame.
 * Photoshop, a font, colors, a glow. If I still had PS I could've made one pretty easy too, not hard to figure out. Mini Me  [[Image:User Mini Me sig.png|19px|talk]] 18:42, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually it has nothing to do with Photoshop, but keep trying :P --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn/talk 18:46, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Secret? Aww. Would you be able to make me one please? Or if i give you my email address, maybe you could PM me the secret. I promise i wont tell..--Burning Freebies 19:06, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Your logo is already on your sandbox page... --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn/talk 19:08, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Who put that there? Its just, i was thinking of a more gentle sort of thing, and with Mr Freebies, rather than Burning. Ah well, ill look around for some online generators. --Burning Freebies 19:52, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Lol, well, I'm sorry you don't like it, feel free to overwrite it. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn/talk 19:55, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks for trying to impress my standards. I really need some lessons in appreciation. --Burning Freebies 20:05, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * No worries, I just figured since you had that blinding orange/red color combination going that the flames would be good. Once you have a color scheme determined, let me know, I'll make you a new one. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn/talk 20:20, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Meh, i dont want to hassle you to much, so ill keep the logo. I like the way it burns. By the way, could you try and make me one of those bullet things please? (The ones that seperate the page links on the nav bar). Thanks, --Burning Freebies 20:22, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * There are bullets available in Category:Special images. If none of them work, tell me what you want. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn/talk 20:58, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I think ill find something. Thanks for all your help Wyn, and for putting up with me throughout these past months. --Burning Freebies 21:01, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * You realise that if it isn't photoshop, it should be? :P Ale_Jrb  ( talk ) 21:32, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Psh, use gimp. :P Lord Belar 21:36, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * GIMP is the most overrated piece of software in existence. It is less powerful, harder to use, has fewer features and has a smaller community than Photoshop, which is why it isn't used for professional editing. If you use GIMP, I shall eat you. Ale_Jrb  ( talk ) 21:41, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * But it's free! :P Lord Belar 21:47, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

I have photoshop... and use it for many things... just not my userpage logos. -- Wyn/talk 22:01, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * My turn to guess...Illustrator? Vili [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 23:58, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * *sings*I know Wyn's secret! Hehehe. ^.^ -- Konig Des Todes 01:35, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually for those of you recommending Gimp, if you want a relatively easy to use free photo editor that actually supports lossless cropping try Irfanview. It's not what I use for my logos, but I do use it for cropping/resizing renders. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 16:43, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * wow, you just reek of elitism. 67.159.44.138 17:25, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * If recommending an easy to use free software is being elitist well, then I guess I am :D --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 17:34, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * i was referring to you trade secret comment and your coyness regarding it 67.159.44.138 18:06, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * You have very lax standards for elitism. Mori no Kinoko ni go Youjin [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|QQ]] 18:10, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey Wyn, you could put me on your userpage projects, because you did make a rather cool banner for my userpage. Your choice though. --Burning Freebies 19:23, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

A little help needed
Hi Wyn, I remade a friend's wiki page as she requested, however I am having a slight problem. I made a header for the nav bar the same way you do *won't say how to not spoil the fun above this section* however I don't know all the colors that are usable on the wiki and as such cannot find a color that matches the background of the picture. I have tried changing the background of the image but it doesn't work out. >.< A little help would be appreciated. (friend's userpage: User:Katherinezoltin) Also I hope you don't mind I used one of your userpage templates. :) -- Konig Des Todes 04:54, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Try #1D0D28 as background color. poke | talk 08:44, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * It should be better now. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn/talk 12:46, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

one day...
You will join me on a AB match even if you leave halfway through. Of course after I get my gaming computer back. +P -- WoB  ( contribs ) 00:57, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Image Cache
Hey Wyn, first off- thanks for letting me know about the purge command, it does seem to come in handy in some cases. However, I was wondering if there's any other way to handle the issue of images not updating when replacing an older image? I've had some cases where a new image just won't update or updates only on the source page- leaving re-sizes or linked images displaying the old file. I've also noticed a couple of similar cases on the wiki that remain unchanged long after the image was replaced (for example the image on Prince Rurik's page) which leads me to think these cases won't resolve themselves if they're still not fixed a couple of days after the image was replaced. Is there any way to deal with this apart from re-uploading the images until they appears properly? Thanks in advance  Nate 18:02, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * For those that get 'stuck' in the server cache (this often will happen if someone tries to purge immediately after uploading), the best option is to drop a note on Emily's talk page and the IT guys will find it and clear it, though this may take some time it also allows the IT guys to see where the problems are and potentially fix them once and for all. The other option is to rename the image (I generally add a 1 at the end of the name) and upload it clean. You just have to make sure you correct every link to the old image. The cache seems to be worst for those images linked to many places, which only makes sense, or are involved in dpl lists, of course that is only a personal observation. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 18:09, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Righty then, works for me. Thanks for the quick answer :).  Nate [[Image:User Nate Alluran MyTalkPage.png|20px|User talk:Nate Alluran]] 18:16, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * People of Antioch also mentioned to me that you can click on the clock on the upper left side of the page to try to purge the cache and refresh the current page. Sometimes works, sometimes not but also worth a try. Luke1138 21:06, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Box request
Hiya Wyn - I've been helping someone from Guru with their userpage recently and I suddenly realised that there doesn't seem to be a user box for Guru contributors. Do you know of anyone who could knock one up? Heh. -- snog  rat  22:50, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
 * You could easily create yourself one ;) Check Userbox -- Silent Storm  [[Image:User SilentStorm MySig.png|Talk to me|19px]] 22:54, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
 * You want to knock up a Guru contributor? Lord Belar 22:54, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure.. I will do it. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 22:56, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Template:User Guru there you go. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 23:23, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks Wyn, you're a star. And :p to all you nay-sayers. -- snog  rat [[Image:User Snograt signature.png]] 23:28, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Hello Wyn and thanks!
hahah, i know! i laugh everytime i see it comes out different, and then i click edit and there are codes that was not previously there appearing. 19:08, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
 * See Image:User Jon Lupen Help.png, have a look inside the red box, make sure that's checked. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  19:45, 19 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Another question if I may, I am trying to include my Idea of Level cap here: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/ArenaNet:Guild_Wars_2_suggestions/Level_cap_issues but there's seems to be something preventing me from doing that. it preview fine but after I click save, it appear at the bottom of the page, when I return a while later whole things i gone. same with another Idea that I try to post under miscellaneous. is there anything that I don't know about that is preventing me form posting certain ideas but not others??


 * thanks in advance, yay siggy works! Pumpkin pie [[Image:User Pumpkin pie sig.jpg|19px]] 19:47, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Please do not remove comments. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  19:54, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
 * It appears you are adding your ideas on the talk page, not on the suggestion page itself. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 20:29, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
 * If you are working mostly with suggestions, I might suggest that you create a personal suggestion page in your userspace, User:Pumpkin pie/Suggestions, and link it via the personal suggestion link in the suggestion sidebox. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 20:33, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Guild page
Am I allowed to move the guild page to a different name? Like my guild Dont Nerf My Builds along with other members of my alliance will be merging to one guild and will have a different name all together. So I would like to move Guild:Dont Nerf My Builds to Guild:New Name To Come. Brian78wa 19:32, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I believe you should archive the old guild page and create the new one separately. If you have something on the old page that you wish to keep, just copy the code. Lord Belar 22:27, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Well thats the thing. I will be keeping everything on the page except the name. Just seems like a waste of space to leave the old one up. Brian78wa 22:47, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, it only takes space away from future in game storage upgrades. Lord Belar 22:52, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Come to think of it, please sign your comments with ~ Thanks. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Belar (talk).
 * Did I really forget to sign that? Wow. Well, it's good to laugh at oneself, I suppose. :D Lord Belar 01:19, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

About Image:Guild Wars Prophecies logo.png
Khe hkem… did you sa my comment on the image? Or my comments in Talk:Main Page? Plus, compare the sizes (64.37 KB (65910 bytes) — my vs 82.2 KB (84169 bajtów) – original. At least leave the comment… Faalagorn☎/⚔ 21:24, 24 January 2009 (UTC).
 * If you want to replace the image with a higher quality one, you simply upload a new version, not a completely different name/image. The second one is considered redundant. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 21:28, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, since it isn't linked to anything it would be deleted as an orphaned image soon anyway. I did tag it as a standard delete to give it 3 days of discussion rather than a speedy that redundant images usually get. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 21:33, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Citing myself: “The reason I uploaded this image is to having the original for Guild Wars (w/o redirecting toward Prophecies) and having this one for Prophecies.”. The Image:Guild Wars logo.png is protected BTW. I can't reupload a new one. I also added a Image:Guild Wars logo.png into the Guild Wars article. Now it’s (uncorrectly) redirecting toward Prophecies… —Faalagorn☎/⚔ 21:38, 24 January 2009 (UTC).


 * PS. Sorry, I thought it was a speedy anyway o.o…
 * Adding a misdirecting link to an article is not a good idea regardless, so I've removed it from Guild Wars. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 21:42, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I will hold myself from edits from now on, but you see, the reason you deleted the image was the reason I wanted to have two (redirecting one and non-redirecting one) images with the same logo. I would swapped them already, but I don’t have any rights to edit anything in Main Page. Other images done in the same manner: Image:Main PvP.png (protected) and Image:ArenaIcon.png (normal) You could leave the image in Guild Wars article and wait for someone with admin rights IMHO, but I won’t be reverting it. —Faalagorn☎/⚔ 21:52, 24 January 2009 (UTC).
 * Well, you see, I do have admin rights, that's not the issue. If you want to have an image in the Guild Wars article, use the image you just uploaded and redirect it properly, that would remove the delete reason, as well as make it not orphaned. The biggest issue with replacing/changing the logo images is that they are linked to sooooo many pages it will make the image cache almost unusable for a fair period of time. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 22:05, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, if you wish to propose replacing the image on the Main page with your version, you can make the change here and then discuss it on the associated talk page. That's how changes to the Main page are accomplished. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 22:16, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Your Strikethrough and My Proposal - NPA
I wanted to say something about your strike through comment on my talk page, while most would think you typed it and went back and struck it out because you realized the personal attack. I checked the history and you typed it like that on purpose. You could have erased the comment before you ever hit save. Instead of taking it out, you hid it in plain site where I could see it. You left the comment and meant it as subterfuge. I am sorry if I insulted you in any way and at any time during my proposal to change the signature image sizes, but that statement made the way you made it was very sneaky and very uncalled for. Just because I haven't been here since the start is no reason to make such a rude comment.

Yes, I have spent a lot of time playing in my own userspace to learn enough to be able to have an opinion about things. Your statement assumes that I have never explored any part of the wiki except my own private world. Which you know is false assumption to make and had nothing to do with the conversation at hand. The desire to change the icon sizes was born out of an honest desire to improve my and others experience here on this wiki, not to make more work for anyone. Now that I know that its so much work for you to do, I understand. I think its a bullshit reason but I can understand because human nature is also to be lazy (read human nature not sysop nature). So is the human nature argument, because human nature is already slipping one past your nose every day. Signatures slide through the cracks way over the suggested 200 character limit more than one or two lines in the edit window. Signatures hit pages with ugly colors, font sizes, and backgrounds. So... If it is already happening then what are you fighting against? Loading issues? Ok, so users will have to archive a couple comments earlier. Give me another reason. It's ugly? I could say that about signatures already in place so that is not a valid argument either.

Of course, because I brought it up... If I were to make my signature as loud as say, User:PheNaxKian I am sure I would immediately get stepped on by the wiki police, yet his name is way bigger, way louder, than what I was proposing. Saying that the "bad people" are the biggest reason for not making this policy change has got to be one of the stupidest cons for a discussion I have ever heard. That is as dumb as saying don't print money because people will steal it. It's already being printed, its already being stolen, I just want a few dollars in my account(earned by legitimate means). So, if it is your job to police this place and sysops duties are really nothing more than cleanup and policy enforcement then do your janitorial duties then pick up the trash and don't let me find an example to compare my 100px signature icon with. Because as long as there are signatures that take up more than 100px worth of line space image or not... there is no reason to oppose my proposal. Elric 16:31, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Wyn clearly stated she didn't mind the extra work, she does a lot of work here and other pages related to the GuildWars community. You may have failed to read that. Your tone is clearly argumentative so you might expect some of the same back, regardless of who the poster might be; we're all human. The points against larger signatures is mostly to avoid ugly, garish, forum-style banners clogging up the wiki and disrupting the actual flow of information (which is what the wiki is for, not colorful, pretty pictures that take up more room than a users contributions). Because people don't agree with your suggestion doesn't mean you have to go off on a rant, be rude, or give up. Try and look at the argument from both sides:
 * Yes, pretty pictures make things more individual (I even have my own banner on my userpage!)
 * When I read a discussion, no, I don't want to spend more time sorting through the pictures than finding the information I want quicky.
 * So, it's a pretty simple decision for me: the signatures are fine the way they are. Am I right though? That's up to everyone else to decide, not me. This is a community effort. Ghosst</I>  [[Image:User_Ghosst_Ghosst_Sig.jpg|19px|I Make Dead People]]  •  Talk  • 17:09, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


 * For what it's worth, wyn has asked me to change mine (it's about 206 characters now). But i feel a couple of points should be mentioned. Wyn would have striked through any comment rather than removing it, because of the sites Archive policy. As for signatures, you have to allow some breathing room on the 200 characters. My user name alone is 10 characters, so if you say the average user has a name of about 6 characters, you need to allow around 4x4=20 characters (2 lots of 4 each for a link to the user and talk page and one lot of 4 for the image naming conventions). Truthfully there was actually a bit of unnecessary code in my signature (the font size part, which did very little). As for "ugly signatures", that's a very opinionated based argument. You can't argue "this signature" or "that signature" is ugly, it's opinionated, what one person considers ugly, another things is nice. I'd also like to point out, the fact none of the sysops have bothered to point out my sig sooner, is the fact that I have very few (very few) contributions, which actually require me to sign (i have less than 200 contributions total, and the majority of those will be on my userpage/in my userspace).
 * There is actually quite a lot wrong saying as long as there are signatures that take up more than 100px worth of line space image or not... there is no reason to oppose my proposal. Images that are 100px long will take up more "Disk space" )can't really thin what to call it in this situation), compared to a signature of the same size. ~PheNaxKian [[Image:User_PheNaxKian_sig.jpg]] Talk  17:13, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * For everyone responding... Check the history... She did not say what she had to say, hit save and then use strikeout and then save again. She intentionally used strike out and then hit save knowing full well that it would be read and that someone would eventually say something about it. She could have just as easily highlighted it, hit delete, and then saved so nobody would have ever seen it.  At this point I understand why the change wont happen and am no longer going to lobby the change.  I just don't agree with the cons of the proposal and feel let down about the subject.


 * Yes... Art is subjective even when it is done with css. I could say the same about my postings Phenaxkian, I don't post in a lot of places either but that fact is not relevant.  Doesn't change my opinions.  You changed your signature because you wanted to be recognized and I want the same thing.  I just want to use a different medium.  Any signature other than a default link back to your user page or your talk page invites creativity and individuality.  I am just appalled at the choking grasp we have on creativity because someone else might abuse it.  Elric 18:15, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I have to say that Elric is right that I made the strike through comment ON PURPOSE, out of frustration, and yes, insult. It was childish, and you will notice that I stopped participating in the discussion at that point to keep from doing anything worse, though in my opinion it was not a violation of GWW:NPA. I would like to take this opportunity to apologize for it. I went to your talk page to encourage you not to give up if it was something you really wanted to see changed, because that is your right as a member of this community, and I will fight for each and every member's rights here regardless of whether or not I agree with their views as long as they are participating within the bounds of current policy.


 * Elric, I have not been here from the beginning either, I started here about 8 months before you did, and yet I have managed to make 2390 entries in mainspace, furthering the purpose of this wiki. You may or may not have read any of my rants, but if you have, you will know that one of my pet peeves here is the social editor. While you are not the typical social editor you also have made 0 edits in mainspace.


 * You may be asking "What does this have to do with signatures?", well nothing, other than to have you say that the only reason the sysops don't support your change is that we are too lazy to do the work it would entail really upsets me coming from someone who has done NO work towards the purpose of this wiki (documenting the game), while we spend a great deal of time every day working towards that purpose. I was fighting for YOUR right to make the proposal, even though I didn't agree with it, I never once said it was stupid, or anything else insulting. While you fairly quickly started insulting our intelligence and experience and calling our reasons for opposing it "Stupid and without merit" and continuing to infer that we were just being lazy. As for my job as a sysop being "picking up the trash", I can guarantee you that I do more of that every day here on this wiki than I do in my own home. The fact that you were able to find examples for your comparison is not a reflection on the amount of work I and the rest of the sysops do, simply the amount of priority that signatures actually have in the grand scheme of things.


 * As Phen stated, after seeing your chart, I DID ask him to change his signature, and he did so promptly, and without rancor. Quite simply I don't see his signature often enough to have paid any attention to it.


 * You focused on trying to bully us into agreeing with your ideas by insulting us, placing the emphasis on us being lazy rather than seriously considering the amount of work it would create. There are more signatures on this wiki than any other type of entry. Enforcing the 19x19 image is relatively simple, and if a few sneak by the 200 character suggested limit, it's not the end of the world, and doesn't disrupt enough pages to make it something we worry about. However, if everyone were to have a 19x100 image, on every page where signatures are used, not only would it have a vast visual impact, we would be doing nothing but checking those images for size (yes I do), or writing notes to users to change colors etc. This does not further the purpose of the wiki. While your specific image you want for your signature is not loud or disruptive, I can guarantee that not everyone is going to be as reasonable about it as you.


 * The server image cache and load time are also a necessary considerations. Each time a page is loaded by someone every image has to pass through the server image cache. The addition of larger images for signatures would simply compound the problems we already experience with the image cache, especially with busy talk pages like Linsey's, Regina's, and Gaile's.


 * I am stepping out of the discussion on the change proposal because I think I have made my reasons for disagreeing with it clear, there is no need for me to continue. If enough people decide to agree with the change and reach a consensus to increase the size of the allowed image, I will abide by the change, and do what in needed to enforce it. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 18:23, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for the acknowledgment of your strike through statement. You are right about a couple of things.  I did say some things that were rude regarding sysops and I am sorry.  Human nature coming out in me.  I saw your refusal based on the bureaucracy it generate for you and the other sysops and saw that as typical human nature to be lazy.  However, your comment was very intentional and deliberate, it was premeditated because you knew it was going to be considered a personal attack, but you wanted to make sure everyone saw it.  You thought about it and intentionally left it with the strike-out.  I, on the other hand, reacted to a base human nature and made comments on that nature.  If you are truly so busy that you are a cat in a rocking chair factory perhaps signatures should be text only with a link to your userspace.


 * As you pointed out, I have also made zero mainspace edits. As I pointed out, I have been spending my time learning the wiki system and learning how to input data the way I want it to appear.  A lot of that education was on my Wii, before I got my laptop... you ever try learning wikicode when you can only type one character at a time with a laser pointer (no copy and paste bull crap...) thus having to memorize the entire code and only see about 100 or so characters in your edit box.  Long signatures?  Don't get me started... I had to scroll forever even on short sections with only a couple of sigs to get to the bottom just to add my comments.


 * 2390 contributions to the mainspace? Does that make you better than me or anyone else?  If not why did you even mention it?  So, no I have made no contributions to the mainspace but I have been working hard to understand wiki code and css so I could participate in the User Space.  Social Users?  I do believe the user namespace was designed to foster community spirit, etc... and that people need help whether its in participating in said community spirit or documenting facts.  I am honestly curious though.  How much server space does the mainspace take up versus how much server space does the userspace use?  Guild namespace?


 * And on a final note... because you mentioned it, I did read your rants. Its really funny how you cry about your individuality and at the same time oppose my battle cry for the exact same creative individuality only mine is with a different set of paint and brushes.  I honestly thought that the change would be good for US the users and the rest of the community.  I honestly expected the majority of users to be tasteful as they ALREADY ARE.  There are really only a few of the bad apples that keep being mentioned.


 * IMHO... The amount of work you as sysops have to do based on those policies should exempt you and all other sysops from expressing their opinions on the subject. A sysop's personal opinion about how much work would have gone into the enforcement of the policy after the change makes him/her biased against the policy and willing to look for any possible reason to block it.


 * Even if you say that you would be happy to do the work. Just like your strikethough comment and its subtle subterfuge... How do I know that wasn't a psychological ploy.  "Suuure, I'd support it iiiif it passed" *wink, nod... but "I'll fight it so it doesn't".  I know, you are going to respond and defend yourself and say... no... thats not what I meant... and so will any other sysop, bureaucrat, or politician.  I feel no ill will toward you or any of the other sysops.  Its a job and you don't get paid for it.  But you also volunteered for the job... Don't like it now that you realize its a bunch of stuff you don't like doing?  Didn't realize it would get harder?  Didn't realize that eventually people would ask for more?  THAT IS HUMAN NATURE.  We want more, we want some one else to give it to us, and those of us that don't get what they want become destructive like the bad apples that would abuse my proposed changes because they don't have the restraint I do. Elric 19:18, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


 * AGF please. If Wyn says something, she means it. Wyn brought up her contrib count and your count because of the intent of this wiki: documenting the game. If that is paramount, then things that overly detract from that are not good. So, she's saying that her contribs speak for her dedication to this wiki and her focus on its goals.
 * Also, I would say that human nature is also highly biased towards the status quo. How often have you heard about people doing things the same, old, inefficient way because it's familiar? Just throwing that out there. --JonTheMon 19:32, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, my strike through was thought out (for about 2 milleseconds) while I was angry with you due to your continued insults, as you point out, human nature. The fact I can type a strikeout in as little time as I take a breath, it make it no less reactionary than yours.


 * I point out the differences in our contributions not to say I'm better than you, simply that time editing means little in amount of contributions possible. And yes, I have learned wiki code, one letter at a time, I knew nothing about wiki code when I started, but quite seriously, to make contributions in mainspace, furthering the purpose of this wiki does not require much of any knowledge of wiki code, and zero knowledge of css, so saying that is why your contributions are strictly in userspace and guild space is nonsense.


 * I believe you misconstrue the purpose of the userspace, it is a built in feature of the software, designed to promote communication between editors, but other than that, is not part of the primary purpose of this wiki, and unfortunately imo has become the primary focus of far too many editors. Also, my rant about individuality had nothing to do with signatures, but everything to do with graphics that I create for use in my userspace. Yes, I like to have a unique userspace which unfortunately is virtually impossible and that particular rant was written again, while I was annoyed at the fact that my graphics were usurped within 30 minutes of posting them. Again... human nature. I have said nothing about your wish to have a nice userspace, to document your characters progression through the game, just that along with that, you should try to find a little time in your busy schedule to correct a typo, or provide a bit of your game knowledge to the rest of the community by contributing to the mainspace, since that IS the primary purpose of this wiki.


 * I am totally serious when I say I will uphold any change in policy that reaches a community consensus, whether I personally agree with it or not. That is what being part of this community means, and how this community works, and for you to infer otherwise is more insulting to me than anything you have yet said. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 19:40, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


 * BTW Elric, I could say that your mention of being invited to MENSA at age 13 is just you trying to say that makes you better than the rest of us, but that would be just as unfair to you as you are being to me. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 19:52, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


 * You could, but that is in my user space meant to share information about me with other people who may question the intelligence behind any of my posts. It is not a direct comparison to anyone.  The fact is that you typed it... you struck it out... and saved it.  The act of making it a strike out proves that you knew at the time you said it that you were making a personal attack.  Intentional subterfuge of the GWW:NPA policy..  Not very lady like.  Especially now that I know you have a personal rant against people who don't make mainspace changes, it makes the statement and its subsequent strike out even more serious in terms of personal attack.  Why did you strike it out?  Why not just say it.  You KNEW you were violating NPA when you typed it even in that half of a breath it took to hit the keys.  I was not making a personal attack on any one specific sysop.  I was commenting on the human nature to be lazy and the fact that anything that increases someone's work load is going to make them generally oppose it.  It's that thought process that is crippling this entire world (but that's another story)  I have made more than User space edits.  Maybe not to the massive degree that you have (possibly compensating for something? need recognition since you brought up that huge number? psychology 101?) Elric 20:06, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Yawn. Kiss and make up already; walls and walls of text are being written over something quite insignificant at this point in time, and something that's already been discussed, reasoned, apologised for, and discussed again. If you can't do that and forgive it, forget it and move on. -- [[Image:User Brains12 circle sig.png|18px|]] Brains12 \ talk 20:14, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * All I want is acknowledgment that a sysop intentionally broke the GWW:NPA policy through subterfuge. Until then the apology is empty. Elric 20:17, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


 * "I was invited to MENSA at 13 and my logic in this situation is not flawed." {Copied from Guild Wars Wiki talk:Sign your comments NOT your userspace. Please don't tell me I can't read.) And no, what I did was not a violation of GWW:NPA though you can feel free to report it on the Admin noticeboard and see if any of the other admins agree with you. Maybe not very ladylike, but I've never claimed to be a lady, just a female. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 20:22, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * As for the contrib count? It's just easy to check.


 * [[Image:User Wynthyst Elric count.png|220px]] || [[Image:User Wynthyst count.png|220px]]
 * }
 * --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 20:30, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 20:30, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh that one... its on my user page too... That was self defense, not a comparison. People were questioning to my intelligence, I responded.  Whats your point?  I would rather you just admit it yourself and then apologize.  I don't want to see you banned for any reason.  Elric


 * I have nothing to admit to or apologize for that hasn't already been done. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 20:31, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


 * "Insulting or disparaging an editor is a personal attack regardless of the manner in which it is done." "The prohibition against personal attacks applies equally to all contributors, including admins." Add on a helping a subterfuge and you have intentional NPA violation meant to look like a moment of passionate typing and then changed upon second thought. My last words on the subject.  Sorry you feel the way you do.  Elric


 * Well, if that is the standard you are judging by, 80% of what you have said about me and about the rest of the sysops could be taken as a violation of GWW:NPA who's got double standards now? --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 20:35, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Guys. Let it rest and stop mudslinging. You're both talking to brick walls that won't budge. Please just let it go, then maybe we can go back to doing something useful. -- [[Image:User Brains12 circle sig.png|18px|]] Brains12 \ talk 20:39, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Ya'll talk too much. Also, how do I get to that contribution counter? I want to see mine :D--  anguard  20:37, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * User:Poke/GuildWarsWikiTools bottom of the page. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 20:42, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, I get the little popup box with my name but then it doesn't do anything when I click "OK".-- [[Image:User_Vanguard_VanguardLogo.png|19px]] anguard  20:44, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Scroll up, it's at the top of the page. Make sure you're using Firefox or something. -- [[Image:User Brains12 circle sig.png|18px|]] Brains12 \ talk 20:47, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

NPA
Hi there Wynthyst!

I noticed you made an NPA violation, here! As you should know, this is against policy! Please refrain from doing so in the future or you could get banned! You may want to read GWW:NPA for more info. Mini Me  18:21, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Please point it out to me and I will ban myself. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 18:23, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Isn't that CUTE! Mini Me is looking out for Elric even after Elric himself brought it up!  It's so ADORABLE! --JonTheMon 18:52, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you mini but I think I've already mentioned the subject. Repeated accusations do not help. Elric 19:19, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * lol you're a funny guy Mini Me  [[Image:User Mini Me sig.png|19px|talk]] 20:59, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

So? Wyn made a b00 b00? Let this one slide. She is honorable enough to correct herself and not post any more pa's. -- S ilverleaf    Don't assume, Know! 21:19, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Protting
Hi Wyn! I noticed that you protected my page due to vandalism. While I appreciate the sentiment, I actually appreciate vandalism because it generates more attention for my pages and I. So it's no fun if the page is protected. :) Could you remove it? Thank you! Vili 00:00, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

PET TYPE
Your template is causing PET TYPE to show up on the wanted pages section. Perhaps I could talk you into changing the code on that line in your usage notes? Since people are doing a direct copy and paste. This won't correct the current pages linking to the non existent page but will prevent any further incidences. I can suggest other changes that would involve the template itself (in regards to this one detail) if you like. Elric 00:11, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * current - pet = A level 1-20 hearty/dire/elder PET TYPE called "Petname"
 * suggested - pet = A level 1-20 hearty/dire/elder (pet type) called "Petname"
 * Umm.. no, none of my pages are showing up as linked to that missing page, except my talk page due to your link above. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 00:22, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes... You are correct.  None of your pages are linked directly.  But people ARE doing a copy and paste of YOUR instructions.  Your instructions are causing people to put a page on the Special:Wantedpages due to lack of clarity of use. Elric 00:25, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I found it and corrected it. Thanks. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 00:27, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Elric 00:27, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Cry For help
wyn u ahve done alot for me these past few days about size of files and fix ups but atm i canot get my goals box on the side canu plz help --Fall of th Living 06:46, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Where exactly do you want it? you have it inside a table atm, so it will naturally align to the left. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 16:27, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * if u could i would like it to fall on the right side outside the userbox sectionFall of th Living 22:53, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

The suggestion on Linsey's talk page
I had suggested pretty much the same thing, but was then denied and later ignored ;_; Good call on asking Linsey directly, I was just looking at her page's archive to point how it's still bigger than it was less than one month ago. Erasculio 22:31, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, we had asked her previously, and she had nixed it then, however, she is quite literally drowning in her talk page, and the temp archive has just doubled it. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 23:39, 27 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Now that you've protected her pages it might be nice to make the Notice, the lovely red box, the first thing you see. Look at Gaile's page with her "Paws to Ponder: Are you on the right page?" box.  Have linsey's at the top so you don't have to scroll down the page to find it, it might make it more noticable. Just a thought.  [[Image:User_Aba_Malatu_sig.png]] Aba Malatu  means Forbidden Truth  04:11, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
 * If you look, there IS a lovely red box at the top of her page.... I did that before I protected it. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 04:32, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I put it above the TOC. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 04:34, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
 * So was I mistaken? [[Image:User_Aba_Malatu_sig.png]] Aba Malatu means Forbidden Truth  04:42, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, it was there, just below the Table of Contents. Now it's above the Table of Contents. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 05:01, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Linsey's page now kinda looks like Emily's. Better though *thumbs up*  Was just thinking: maybe a scrollable box could be added in the space below the Attention Box that could have the contents of the FAQ on it, so it's right there when people go to her discussion page. Just a thought. Aba Malatu means Forbidden Truth  19:41, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I blatantly stole it from Emily, so that would make sense, and no, there will be a different link to the FAQ once it's really up and running, I'm thinking that the center box can be used for her updates on the content updates.... like the HoM stuff coming up. Though all of this will really be up to Linsey. I just kinda ninja'd stuff in an attempt to help her get a bit more organized. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 19:58, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, it's just a suggestion. Ninja away!  ^_^  Let's just hope Linsey has some time in the next few days.  [[Image:User_Aba_Malatu_sig.png]] Aba Malatu  means Forbidden Truth  20:04, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Guild page tagging
If a guild requiring an inactive tag also requires guild cleanup, should both tags be placed on it? I've run into several guilds that meet this criteria during tagging, though I'm not sure if both should be placed. -- <font color="#D2691E">Wandering <font color="#D2691E">Traveler  05:22, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
 * No, Guild Cleanup takes priority because the page will be deleted if it isn't done, rather than archive an out of compliance page. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 05:24, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Mmk. I'll place cleanups on the ones I passed over. Thanks. --[[Image:User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png|19px]] <font color="#D2691E">Wandering <font color="#D2691E">Traveler  05:25, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

ban on 67.159.46.10
nuff said. --JonTheMon 18:18, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Need this still?
User:Wynthyst/Sandbox/Guild pages to be moved its putting links on wanted pages.
 * I emptied it. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 23:45, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Tyvm Elric 00:07, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Little Help If possible
Could someone re format my page so that i can just type everything in there =), i dont like how its set up here, i dont want to have to put Links and then organize links
 * I can take a look at it. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 00:50, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

If you are still about...
Care to take a look at User talk:Mattijs Mertens‎, specifically about image naming, I don't know policies well enough to comment but I reckon it's better to get him uploading images correctly from the start rather than have a big mess to clean up later. Sorry to pick on you, but I don't really see this as AN worthy and you were the last active sysop on RC. <font color="#DD0000">Misery  17:40, 30 January 2009 (UTC)