User talk:Raine Valen/Mass Balance/Paragon/Skills/Leadership

Boro's Proposal
DISCUSS PLZZZ (Need feedback) Boro 12:17, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * "Skill" and "Attack faster" are a dangerous combination. Don't make that combination. Dark Morphon 09:29, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Decreasing the adrenaline to 1 would probably fix it. Maybe remove the bit about enchantments as well. 145.94.74.23 14:11, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Boro's Proposal
That's ridiculously overpowered. A maintainable godly buff to adrenaline users that can't be removed in any way? That's just ridiculous. Really, what makes Paragons broken is that they have irremovable party-wide buffs that can't be removed. Change something about that instead of making ridiculously overpowered skills like this one. Paragons are kept weak for a reason. Dark Morphon 09:34, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Now the buff is less godly and is less maintainable. Boro [[image:User_Borotvaltgandalf_Sig.jpg|10px‎]] 16:46, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * You still don't get it do you? That's still ridiculously overpowered and you will just end up having a weak and useless skill if you keep nerfing it because there is no way an irremovable party-wide buff can be balanced. Just fix that. Dark Morphon 11:27, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Power Attack Prot Strike Dismember Power Attack Prot Strike Dismember Power Attack Prot Strike Dismember Power Attack Prot Strike Dismember Power Attack Prot Strike Dismember Power Attack Prot Strike Dismember Power Attack Prot Strike Dismember Power Attack Prot Strike Dismember. --71.229.253.172 11:43, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't think the skill needs to be changed. On the contrary, I think it's pretty powerful the way it is now. The only change I'd like to see is that it gets moved from Leadership, which has too many powerful skills AND a great energy management. It should have either. Right now, the skill basically says: gain 0-2 energy, your party gains 3-4 adrenaline. Refresh Aggressive Refrain. That's very strong already. 145.94.74.23 14:14, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * In this case then what skills/skill types should remove chants? Boro [[image:User_Borotvaltgandalf_Sig.jpg|10px‎]] 10:49, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd say, make Daze have some effect on it. Xhata 08:56, 19 April 2009 (UTC)