Talk:Hunter's Shot

If you use Great Dwarf Weapon, and when it hits it causes a knockdown, will this apply bleeding, or does the target have to be knocked down when the arrow hits? Because GDW has a 20-40% chance to KD, and if you use Hunter's Shot while you have GDW on you, and it causes a knockdown, it should cause bleeding too, right? 70.126.107.48 23:26, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I believe that It hits before Knockdown. I'll check sometime. Halogod35 12:44, 14 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Alright, I thought that it might hit before it causes a KD, but I hadn't tested it. 70.126.107.48 21:19, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Bug
I was hit by this while not moving and I started bleeding... 122.104.165.13 12:58, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Were you knocked down? lulz Loser223 07:17, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Or lag on your side, you didn't look like you were moving, however, the server said you were when you got hit.--75.94.77.148 11:44, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Can't even make it work with turret builds anymore so it's total shit now. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.81.251.137 (talk).

This update is inconsistent to what you have it listed in game. You removed the 1 sec cast time, plus changed recharge to 10sec. What are you thinking? Is this supposed to be a weaker version of screaming shot now or are you trying to remove true turret builds?

Well now it's official, you can just remove this skill cause there's no point in it's use anymore.
 * Or you can use with Burning Arrow and Apply Poison for unconditional super degen spam. It's actually on par with Screaming Shot now. Mediggo 06:30, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * On par with Screaming Shot? Uhh, sure, if doing much less damage at a longer recharge time is on par, I guess it is...

Wrong idea bub, that's for condition builds. I'm referring to spike with 1 sec skills and marksmans wager. Anyway if their goal is to kill that, they sure as hell didn't work hard enough.
 * Quickly activating bow attacks was just bad idea in the beginning. That's why there's skills which increase attack speed and skills which make your arrows fly lightspeed. And rangers are truly meant to be applying conditions and interrupting, anyways. Mediggo 11:39, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Umm, why should rangers be pigeonholed like that? Variety is a GOOD thing, not a bad one, the idea that one class should only do 1 thing is just...sad.
 * the idea that one class has über armor and be able to fricking-flicking spike without even beeing EXCACT is just...sad.

May 14 update
Now that bleeding is easy as ever to peg, should they remove the -40 armor from Barbed Arrows or they just forgot to remove that?--ShadowFog 11:23, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * This skill is pretty bad, no reason to touch Barbed Arrows. Misery  11:27, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Barbed really needs a buff at this point when you compare hunters/screaming to it. take out the -40 armor and add dmg. Maybe +6?
 * Wut... Misery  11:54, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * -40 armor doesn't really mean this or that. With Barbed Arrows you're 1) not going to need either Hunter's Shot or Screaming Shot and 2) you'll be able to apply bleeding more repeatedly and use skills which work with mass bleeding, like Lacerate and Ulcerous Lungs. Mediggo 11:59, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * So since -40 amor really doesnt get in the way or mean something and now the ranger has no issue pegging bleeding, Hunter's Shot, Screaming Shot and Barbed Arrows(or never had?) they should just remove it. Who's going to get hurt if the -40 armor gets removed?--ShadowFog 12:15, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Of course there's always a chance you'll get hit when using Barbed Arrows... but if you're not stupid, you use it when you're not being hit, or not going to get hit. So yeah, it's pretty worthless. Mediggo 12:20, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * omfg, just revert it then to no fast activation, this has double the recharge and -5...17 bonus dmg than the original version... - Wuhy 86.101.134.142 13:05, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Seriously why the hell did they change it like this? Didn't they remember to pay attention to the past updates they included last time? Now it's worse compared to what it was like new.
 * It's pretty much what a non-elite version of Poison Arrow is, utterly useless. I used to like this skill for being a 1 second cast 5 energy bow attack not for the bleeding.(marsc 17:43, 15 May 2009 (UTC))

I know. This skill was originally supposed to be an addition to your other attack skills and bleeding was only a side benefit you gained if you met the needed action. So what do we have now for a replacement? sundering/penetrating and powershot cost too much, needle is a joke and quick shot just has to be a ******* elite! C'mon give us a friggin viarable alternative here!!
 * Sorry, you're a ranger. Anet has decided rangers are only allowed to deal damage via conditions now, apparently, if you want to be a ranged damage dealer, you're supposed to play a different class it seems:-/

Is izzy back on skill updates? Like, wow. Aro 21:04, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

If he's the one doing all this, I don't like him already.
 * And the downside is that high armored foes take advantage of this update. Well I say the closest thing to this is Keen Arrow and Determined Shot, too bad they dont inflict a condition like Hunter's Shot did. @"...sundering/penetrating and powershot cost too much,..."-> Precision Shot too.--ShadowFog 17:15, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

THIS IS A DIRECT NERF TO RANGER AS A WHOLE. HUNTER SHOT WAS A FILLER SHOT PUT ON EVERY BAR FOR IT'S 1 SEC ACTIVATION, BONUS DMG AND REASONABLE RECHARGE. YOU NERF THIS AND YOU NERF THE RANGER CLASS AS A WHOLE. WELL NOW IT'S GARBAGE AND SO IS THE RANGER. IF BURNING ARROW DISAPPEARS THERE IS NO ROLE FOR RANGERS; THAT'S HOW FRAGILE THIS CLASS HAS BECOME.
 * What the raging IP doesn't know is that rangers are still overpowered - they're just the least overpowered of the gimmick professions, so it seems like they're weak when they're really not. ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 22:06, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Rangers are only overpowered because of the scythe gimmicks, RaO, and spear gimmicks. And maybe interrupt spam. Other than spamming interrupts mindlessly without penalty or limit, bows are pretty much complete garbage. Lowest attack rate and worst DPS in game, and they really have no non-elite damage skills. Spears outdamage bows in every way and you can use a shield with them.
 * I'm actually surprised there were no spelling errors in that. And yes, rangers are still very strong. King Neoterikos 22:31, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Anyone who says that bows are strong is an idiot. Scythes and spears outclass bows in every way. Warrior damage is better and dagger combos are still OP. Bows do the least damage and have the lowest DPS and all they're good for is Apply Poison (which a spear is better at anyway since it can spread poison faster), spamming interrupts, and crippled condition. Rangers are still OP not because of bows, but because of interrupt spam (condition spam is not OP if it uses your elite) and use of scythe/spear/melee gimmicks.96.233.8.52 18:03, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Who said rangers were OP'd because of bows? King Neoterikos 02:49, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

I just wonder why it has 10 recharge now. Was it not enough to remove the 1 second activation time? --Longasc 21:14, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Shard (the infamous wiki troll) wants to pay Anet to nerf bows more and re-instate his banned account.72.43.62.68 00:48, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * itt: shitter arguments.
 * First thing it's time to learn is that big ranged damage is broken. Bows aren't supposed to DPS like champs because it would be broken, and has been every time rangers had access to it.
 * As it stands now, rangers are a jesus profession. Whether it's solo-wiping teams (with monks) with Poison Arrow, throwing melee-like damage on spikes from across the map with Burning Arrow, blowing up everything you look at with Expert Focus and Savage Shot, or shutting down 2 casters with Magebane Shot, rangers hardly have the short end of the stick.
 * Okay, boo hoo, you can't blow people up with Hunter's Shot anymore. If you want to blow people up, run a different build – rangers can still do it.
 * tl;dr lern play. &mdash;  Raine Valen  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  1:17, 23 Aug 2010 (UTC)

Concise description
"Hunter's Shot causes bleeding for 3...21...24 seconds which is promptly removed. You autoattack for the rest of the game since all ranger non-elite bow attacks are elite, inviable, or have 10 second recharge. (Attribute: If I want to play the game with one attack button, Runescape is way better)"
 * "Inviable?" ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 00:40, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes. Inviable, like you, since you're the one who got banned and I'm not.
 * Weird huh. 10 seconds recharge. Not even Feral Lunge or Screaming Shot is that awful.--ShadowFog 00:52, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
 * This needs some bonus damage back or a lower recharge to be balanced with the other non-elite ranger skills for bleeding (those stated above and Barbed Arrows). <>Sparky, the Tainted 00:55, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
 * This skill sucks now, its just a mindless spam, has no bonus damage and a shit recharge. I mean, 10 seconds for 21 seconds of bleeding? I could just take Apply and get more degen for longer and affects several targetsCrimmastermind 07:11, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
 * They threw out the quick activation too. This skill is officially useless, I would like it rolled back to its original balance (revert update and remove 1 second quickshot effect)72.64.8.217 21:15, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Unlike what other non-ranger supporters say, we do want the 1 sec activation. Don't let our opponents have any more leeway then they've been given already.


 * To be honest with you, this is a rather good nerf for me, it allows me to properly apply bleeding for my Burning Arrows build now without being too close, also, please sign your posts, but of course, this nerf robs me of one of my essential newbie help build's skills. - Vonturn Runesworth 14:45, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
 * wut--173.59.20.251 17:57, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The 1 second activation made this a spike skill and caused a nerf. Get rid of the quick activation and make it bleeding + unconditional damage.

This will being back screaming shot on bars huh? -- Halogod35   16:34, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

A lower recharge would instantly make this a effective yet balanced skill. (Say 3 or 4)

Rangers have turned into Burning Arrow + a bunch of trash fillers
 * BA is a horrible elite. The sad thing is that it is one of the best ranger elites, seeing as it is the only one not to be nerfed to the ground (or just started off badly.). <>Sparky, the Tainted 00:38, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * agreed, quick shot is the best Ranger elite.88.244.3.83 15:23, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Bow Attack. . If this attack hits a foe that is moving or knocked down, that foe begins Bleeding for  seconds and you strike for + damage.
 * someone wanna make suggestion i cant im bad ?  Raemon  21:51, 26 November 2009 (UTC)