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OMG SKILL UPDATE SO AMAZING &mdash; The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.149.248.3 (talk) at 20:26, 02 November 2010 (UTC).
 * Old joke is old. Get a life, or at least some new material. Kairu 20:41, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
 * "GW2 has just release a new class, the Elementalist." Is this older than the last real Skill update we got(Mesmer Update) or not? The last time we got a Skill update preview was on the 23rd of April. The last things that Regina said to us...9th of August planned outage. Before that? 4th of May out of office. Before that? Skill update preview 23rd of April. This gives you a clue as to how long this game has been dead yet? and do you see for how long your joke has been old? 173.32.190.24 21:08, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Consider the lack of updates as a game lengthening device for Mr OMG-WHERES-MY-SKILL-UPDATE??/??//? 203.109.222.68 21:13, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
 * How is that an old joke? it has been used for the third time now and I really don't think that's old. It's more like a meme, no one expects you to be surprised by and OMG AWESOME JOKE &mdash; The preceding unsigned comment was added by 89.142.51.70 (talk) at 21:38, 02 November 2010 (UTC).
 * I think it has been said before. If you can do a better job, get to it. I'm sure there wouldn't have bean any complaints if they had just thrown the same Halloween stuff at us from last year. This banter goes both ways. I personally don't give a second thought to PvP updates, I don't PvP and frankly I dont care about skill balancing. Does that mean I should "OMG CONTENT UPDATE SO AMAZING" when they release a PvP change only? Good god, get over yourselves. Kairu 21:55, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I would certainly get to it, but I don't think they'd let me. D= --70.90.155.138 23:05, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
 * These last updates scream nerf. 200.34.110.3 00:26, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * No news is good news; you'll all be crying when they nerf SOS and others. As for the "game is dead" comments: get real. If the game was so dead, they wouldn't be investing their time and money in updates like War in Kryta, and certainly wouldn't just give them away for free. --95.237.60.95 11:28, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Kairu, you are the first, yes, the first person I have ever heard of who bought GW solely for PvE. If you do not PvP then why are you even commenting here? The updates won't ever effect you anyway (well unless you had a good long QQ about SF or something) Therefore either GTFO or start PvP'ing.
 * If Kairu is the first person, then I must be the second. You could then add 90% of the members in my guild to that list too. PvP is boring, the drops are lousy and the monsters are rude. --Manassas  [[File: User Manassas Mannysig.png]] 09:50, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * if you're bad at it. zing! - Auron 10:39, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Your comment speaks for itself. Thank you. --Manassas  [[File: User Manassas Mannysig.png]] 11:46, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Is that some sort of FGSFDS comment? Because it makes as much sense as one. Thank you. Also, the fact that you suck at PvP still doesn't mean that it isn't the biggest aspect of the game, lets be honest, PvE was more of an afterthought. It is the reason the whole max 8 skills thing came to exsist. If GW wanted to be PvE orientated it would have looked a whole lot more like WoW.
 * I'm not halfway 1337 enough to have a clue what "FGSFDS" even means, Mr. Anon. - but I guess it isn't flattery. You're probably right about me not being very good at at PvP by the way, but then again I wouldn't really know since it is close to four years ago I tried it (Did you notice how your choice of words actually emphasized my point about the rude monsters?). You feel that PvP is the biggest aspect of the game, a lot of people feel differently - Is that a problem for you?. --Manassas  [[File: User Manassas Mannysig.png]] 08:10, 5 November 2010 (UTC)


 * It's an update with 0 interesting things, so wut. Not like its the first update that does nothing worthwhile. Guess IP's need to do SOMETHING when they're not in school. DemonicFahrirDesecrate_Enchantments.jpg 09:20, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Bug
I've heard about this, but what did it actually do? - J.P. Talk  20:29, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Think of normal shields with two inherent mods, those could drop w/ a shield handle for a third mod. Also applied to wands and foci.  24.197.253.243 20:36, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

So, were the items removed... or are +90HP shields still available? &mdash; The preceding unsigned comment was added by Shimozukawa (talk) at 20:51, 02 November 2010 (UTC).
 * I believe they are still availiable (from those who had acquired them during the event, that is), though by the looks of it they will be removed (or altered) soon, so I wouldn't go buying any... &mdash; The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.11.227.226 (talk) at 21:13, 02 November 2010 (UTC).
 * The Tyrian Police State will remove them ASAP Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә  [[File:User Aliceandsven 3.png]]  ѕνәи  Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 22:24, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Was hoping ...
That'd we'd see something come from that Nameless Lich, but apparently not. 203.109.222.68 20:41, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I was hoping that the halloween questlines would be finished... I mean they just stop halfway. Can Mad King Thorn come back now? Or did we fail? Did Zola make it to Kryta? Has Joko's wrath "started" already? I feel like half the story is missing. Waar Kijk Je Naar User_Waar_Kijk_Je_Naar_sig.png 21:50, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Reading the NPC text instead of clicking madly as fast as you can to get the reward is informative sometimes... "Emissary of King Thorn of Kryta : Oh, how I wish I could have seen the look on Qwytzylkak's...well, whatever it has that passes for a face, when he met his terrible end. Surely, great King Thorn must be free now! Strange...nothing really feels that different. But I'm certain our plans went ahead flawlessly! One thing is certain: the barrier has weakened. If this is not the year that we succeed, then by the next...by next year our court will rule again, and this world will once again know true brilliance!" --As for Joko, his line is a reference to the future events that will lead to the state in which Elona is at the time GW2 will be set. --74.13.148.106 03:52, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Exactly. If this is not the year that we succeed, then by the next...by next year our court will rule again. IF. Who tells me "we" failed? Nobody. Now where's my King? Waar Kijk Je Naar User_Waar_Kijk_Je_Naar_sig.png 06:48, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * It's pretty clear the plan failed. Only an idiot would not understand it. If you see a speed limit sign that say "speed limit 50 mph", will you ignore it because no one told you the speed limit is 50 mph?--74.13.148.106 09:51, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes.-- Neil  2250  User Neil2250 sig icon6.png 10:09, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Quite obviously. But on a more serious note, I would have to agree that it doesn't necessarily mean that we have to wait till the next Halloween to get anything. It could be a part of the planned GW:Beyond content for the coming months. Kairu 12:54, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I fail to see where any of the quests state "Too bad, we failed. You must wait untill next halloween to continue the quest chain." I had actually expected that Anet would add the follow-up quests (if there are any) in the last 2-3 days, or that something would happen during the finales. Waar Kijk Je Naar User_Waar_Kijk_Je_Naar_sig.png 15:37, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I was hoping too for something more from the nameless lich. I wonder if they ad something prepared but didn't have it finished on time. Lokheit 11:23, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * John Stumme recently made a comment about the Lunatic Court quest line on his talk page. --Silver Edge 03:58, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Halloween quests removed from quest list
Last year they kept Waiting Game in your quest log, but my characters that had it now have it removed from the quest log. That was annoying, last year we kept them, so I was stocking up on W.G. Well, that's just ... 203.109.222.68 20:52, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

This had to be done to get the Mausoleum out of the build. &mdash; The preceding unsigned comment was added by Shimozukawa (talk) at 20:53, 02 November 2010 (UTC).
 * It even removed my copy of Waiting Game that I got in 2009, wtf? -- R i ddle 21:36, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
 * if in doubt, remove everything xD J new [[Image:Tormented Scythe.png|25px|link=User_talk:Jnew]] 23:33, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that happened to mine too, Ezekial. Kinda pisses me off, because I was going to do it this week with some of my friends to get the UW done with. ThrainUser_Thrain_Sig.png contribs 00:21, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * That's terrible. Most of my characters still had it from last year.Ramei Arashi 01:40, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * From the looks of things, the event hasn't ended yet, so...pick the quest up again? (Disclaimer:I haven't logged on today.) -- ஸ ķ̌ɎǾshĺ [[Image:User_Kyoshi_sig.png]] 01:56, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * No, it ended. Tuesday at midnight doesn't mean "really early Wednesday." -- R i ddle 02:48, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * It ended sometime after midnight though. I rezoned well after midnight and the quests and decorations were still up.  I want my The Waiting Games back though.  I got it on a few chars, but didn't finish them, expecting to do that after the end of the holiday again. 71.146.80.190 02:52, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Midnight Tuesday morning...got it. -- ஸ ķ̌ɎǾshĺ [[Image:User_Kyoshi_sig.png]] 03:11, 3 November 2010 (UTC)


 * You know, that is irritatingly ambiguous. Taken literally, of course, it's 12:00am, but I can see how it'd be really easy to think of it the other way, too.  &mdash;  Raine Valen  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  3:56, 3 Nov 2010 (UTC)

I'm going to avoid logging in on characters that I want to keep The Waiting Game on for now in hope that they'll make it so that's not removed like the rest. -- Kirbman 03:20, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Their response so far has been just Awesome... pretend it never happened, not even a peep on Guru about it either. Yeah don't worry Anet, it'll go away if ya just keep ignoring it...  FFFFFFFffffffffff -- ilr [[image:User_ilr_deprav.png]] 04:47, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * And it probably would, for the most part, if they did. It's one quest and it'll probably be back for a week or so next year.
 * @Kirbman: if Guild Wars was programmed with enough sense, quest toggles would be server-side data, unaffected by login. -- ஸ ķ̌ɎǾshĺ [[Image:User_Kyoshi_sig.png]] 04:50, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * It's very likely that they are server-side, but simply not updated until a character logs in. This patter would be consistent with many other things, like updating your reward calculator and updating your characters' faces after the makeover addition.  &mdash;  Raine Valen  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  13:44, 3 Nov 2010 (UTC)


 * Note to self; Nail Quests to Quest Log. -- Neil  2250  User Neil2250 sig icon6.png 10:51, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

mAT games are bugged
Hello, all mAT games are now bugged (maybe because of the revert to old NPC) can you fixed this issue? please. Raton 11:04, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Is the bug: Suddenly all players are compelled to play e-deny mesmers? -- S ilven User Silven sig.jpg 07:00, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

ANeT officially insane now?
Listen to this bullshit! Logged out when new build was announced, logged in a minute later. What changed? -> They removed 2 complete register of my xunlai chest filled with weapons. NONE of them were either bugged or from the mausoleum and now there are only empty slots. Including 2 VS (r11 + r9), 1 BDS, a r9 perfect caster modded crystaline and a ton of green items.Is ArenaNet going totally stupid now taking away items from players?? I am in contact with support atm but as usual with that company, they dont really give a sh*t and you get only your automated answers until you finally get them to let you talk with some "senior gms" although later experience with support showed me that even those guys often don't even know what game i am talking about. At least they are "investigating" my case now. holy crap sh*t WHAT DO THEY HAVE A PAID TEST CREW FOR if they just throw out random builds right into their paying customer's face. If i wasn't playing this game with my friends, i would have quit it long time ago, not because of the game itself which is awesome, but because of the company and the support behind the game.
 * Cool story bro. 130.79.41.43 14:24, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * ^ - Auron 15:00, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I don't pay $15 a month for this shit! Oh wait... FleshAndFaith 15:39, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Wait test Krewe get paid now?!?!!! My cheques must be getting lost in the post. -- Salome   [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]] 15:57, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * So thats free stuff? thx salome. -- Neil  2250  User Neil2250 sig icon6.png 16:11, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I actually changed your mailing address to mine on the forums Salome, I figured lawyers didn't need more money! - Auron 16:17, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Damn you Auron! *shakes fist* -- Salome   [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]] 00:59, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * [[Image:User_Jette_Wealthy_t-rex.jpg|This is appropriate in at least 75% of the contexts under this header.]] &mdash;  Raine Valen  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  17:13, 3 Nov 2010 (UTC)
 * Nerf plz! -- ilr [[image:User_ilr_deprav.png]] 20:56, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't know if you are telling the truth or not, but if you do Id be pissed off myself; so I kinda get how you feel. Fortunately, none of the items on my xunlai vault were missing. Not that its anything expensive... lulz --Ridz16 19:13, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Mobrin is a test krewe member? He must be, how else could he get some fabulously well-to-do? FleshAndFaith 20:50, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Story: 1/10. Try again (or please, don't). -- Cyan [[Image:User Cyan Light sig.jpg|19px]] 21:01, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I know how you feel, I too was a victim of anet's updates. Like you, I was taking a slow, yet thoughtful, stroll over the iced-over Drakkar Lake when I saw the update message. I don't know if it was the chilling air that made my brain numb or the thought of a skill balancing update but I sprinted back to the nearest outpost! Once I reached Olafstead I ate some delicious chocolate which, for some magical reason, made me run faster to that Xunlai chest. I took off all my gear in the freezing cold of the Norn inhabited lands and threw it into my chest, knowing that Anet may not be able to save my character from the evil update monster but my bank would surely be there when I got back. Relieved, I closed Guild Wars and installed the updates. Upon logging in I discovered, to my horror, that all my high end (and skimpy) gear was gone! Anet you make me mad! But seriously, If you're not lying, why are your good items in your bank? -- S ilven User Silven sig.jpg 06:58, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Why are we answering this? The script they ran didn't even delete or mod items, it just identified bugged items for later work. Perhaps he just hasn't checked the tabs on his storage pane, or his account has been hacked or some other bug has effected him which support will sort out? Either way we can't help. -- Salome   [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]] 13:03, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Or he's a troll. Just guessing, you know... --92.30.225.137 13:26, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Indeed and if so "lets not feed the trolls" -- Salome   [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]] 22:14, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * The only reason this section is interesting is because it has a dinosaur in the middle. -- Neil  2250  User Neil2250 sig icon6.png 23:24, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Very true. Dinosaurs make everything more interesting. On a different note, I would like to compare computer games to a bottle of your favorite inebriant. Lets take WoW for instance. You pay your months subscription in order to buy your beer. You drink your beer. Now you have run out of beer. If you want to continue drinking beer, you must pay again. If one of those beers happens to make you feel ill because something 'bad' was added to that particular bottle, id be pissed off too. You just paid for a whole bottle of beer, and its gone off and tastes vaguely like sarcasm with a hint of purple. You feel ripped off because you have just paid for something that you don't like. But take GW now. GW is one bottle of beer. You never need to buy a new bottle, because it is an Everlasting Tankard Of Grog that you bartered from the zaishen for 50 gold zcoins... Everytime you think you have run out, you realise you havent and that you can never reach the bottom of it, contrary to what nick keeps on telling you, that crazy sonofayakk. If by chance you get a bad draught from the magical tankard, dont fret, its not like you actually paid for that particular swig - You only paid for the first couple of swigs you had ALMOST SIX YEARS AGO. You've had far more than your money's worth out of gw already anyway. It costs half that of a standard PS3 or XBOX360 game nowadays (based on prices of the complete edition on amazon), and you get hundreds times more gameplay out of it. I have played gw for nearly 4000 hours. I have never played any console game for more than 200 hours... Go figure. (Use your fingers and toes if you must). Oh, and the Test Krewe give their time for free, for the good of all Tyria! [[Image:User_Radthor_Dax_Sig.png|19px]] Radthor Dax  12:32, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Be certain, they do not work "for free" -- Oiseau | User_Oiseau_Melandru.jpg 13:27, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
 * It's more like you go to a magic genie who says, "I will grant you one wish for fifty bucks!". You pay the fee, then wish for an everlasting bottle of Guinness.  Over the years, it steadily gets worse and worse, till the point where it's not really worth drinking anymore, even if you already paid for it.  Sure, you still got a good price for four years of booze.  But the goddamn genie knows damn well that you didn't intend to get an everlasting bottle... that starts to suck a couple years down the line.  That would be stupid.  Therefore, you become justifiably irritated.  &mdash;  Raine Valen  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  13:35, 5 Nov 2010 (UTC)
 * Costumes are like little stickers you can put on your tankard. It doesn't make the ale taste any better or worse, but it just adds a little festivity to your drinking. You could just not buy a sticker, and your drinking experience would be exactly the same. And Guinness doesn't ever go bad. FleshAndFaith 19:32, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
 * You buy it for that reason: it's supposed to be good forever. When it isn't, there's the rub!  &mdash;  Raine Valen  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  21:02, 5 Nov 2010 (UTC)
 * But the thing is, you would get tired of Guinness all the time. It's not that the bottle has gone bad, you jsut got tired of drinking it. However, you can shake the bottle a tiny little bit and it is magically a little different, just enough to get you to drink more (the metaphor, for you simpletons, means changing your play style or skill bars ever so slightly). Or, you can wait until the merchant who sold you the magic bottle changes the flavor a bit. But don't rush him; he is busy making fall and winter flavors for your bottle for free. FleshAndFaith 21:31, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd like to use the same analogy. Guild Wars is like an everlasting beer. Yes, this is true. BUT!!! Like Guild Wars, there comes a time when you drink too much beer! And the grog starts to overwhelm your throat, you can't try to spit out the swill since an invisible force is forcing you to keep drinking it. You cough, you splutter, you have beer pouring out your nose and just as you're about to die you look up. You see white teeth as wide as trees, dripping with the blood of the many Guild Warsians it has devoured before you. You reach for your bow only to realise it's real life and you can't dshot Twisting Jaws, you wave your arms in the air forgetting that even if you were in the Guild Wars world, your hero monks won't heal you anyway. You Die. From the monstrous skill which, for some reason beyond your comprehension, decides to take 4 Wounding Strike Dervishes and meld them together into some kind of sinister, evil abomination. This is why you shouldn't drink and play Guild Wars, I hope this message gets through to people! ^^ -- S ilven User Silven sig.jpg 08:19, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Trust me, no one's tired of Guinness; it's just that your everlasting bottle went to shit. If you could have it the way it were a couple months/years ago, it'd be fine and dandy.  &mdash;  Raine Valen  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  16:32, 6 Nov 2010 (UTC)
 * People do not complain because they want PvE to be more exciting and PvP to be more fun, they complain because they are sick of PvE being a complete faceroll where skillful play is punished and bullshit gimmicks are rewarded, and want PvP to be playable for more than just 100 people.  Koda  [[Image:User_Koda_Kumi_UT.jpeg‎|19px]]  Kumi  17:05, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
 * People do not complain because they want PvE to be more exciting and PvP to be more fun, they complain because they are sick of PvE being a complete faceroll where skillful play is punished and bullshit gimmicks are rewarded, and want PvP to be playable for more than just 100 people.  Koda  [[Image:User_Koda_Kumi_UT.jpeg‎|19px]]  Kumi  17:05, 6 November 2010 (UTC)