User talk:Kyoshi/Mursaat

A copy of the page, before Zesbeer even gotten to it. Yep, it needs more. -- riyen ♥  09:21, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The lore section has been nearly halved. As I said on the talk page of the Mursaat article, and as Konig said on the feature page, most people don't care for lore, and it's not (most of the time) what they come to the page for. (Konig also said that it should be cut off at the Veil Falls part of the GW2W article, but I think that the sections should be shortened and removed from sections.) At least make the creature info visible from when you first open the page, makes it more pertinent to the presumed use. In addition I'd rather it didn't flow like a storytelling but instead like listing simple facts, for consistency with the rest of the wiki. No other creature article I've found is this long (correct me if I'm wrong), and I don't think it should be this long.
 * If you have an objection to these causes then please voice it, and if you think that my edit doesn't fulfill them then explain why. --Kyoshi (Talk) [[File:User Kyoshi sig.png]] 09:55, 15 December 2009 (UTC)


 * My complaints: Firstly, that red link needs fixed :P (Justiciar not Justicar). Secondly, needs more spaces. I honestly don't see the point of the first spoiler, as that is pre-GW storyline and thus not really a spoiler, especially how very little is from just the BMP mission. In fact, only one sentence (second to last) of that section is from just the BMP. All of the rest can be found in the Prophecies Manual, thus not a spoiler. And honestly, that is the whole story, there is nothing more to it, so it can lose the "For more information see the Saul's Story page." bit.
 * No where is the Maguuma Jungle said to be the place in which the Mursaat were found, everything which says for where Saul was is simple the term "a dense forest" which could easily mean north of Kryta or beyond the Maguuma - same goes with the Ullen River. I realize these were there before, but I didn't notice... Just letting you know about these here (I shall edit the main article - and the GW2W version, which I could of sworn I removed then). I personally dislike the complete use of the GW2 lore and would prefer to just rewrite, not copy from GW2W (which is what I would of done but Zesbeer said he'd take care of it, didn't know he meant copy/paste...).
 * I personally hate the storytelling format which is on both this and the actual article... A mass rework can be done on this article to be honest. -- Konig/ talk 11:17, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the input, Konig. I did notice the Justiciar edit, I always thought I had it spelled right though, heheh. I didn't know if it had been mentioned that it was the Maguuma or not so I just went with what the article said, so I can fix that up as well. I suppose I agree on the spoiler tags as well, makes sense. I had figured it should be there mostly because it mentions that the Mursaat aren't good-godly or something like that. (Lack of sleep has addled my mind, could well be another reason, but probably similar.)
 * I'm not quite sure I understand on the last part, but are you saying that you hate the format on my edit and the Mursaat page, or the Mursaat page and the GW2W page? (More sleep addling my comprehension, I'm sure.) --Kyoshi (Talk) [[File:User Kyoshi sig.png]] 11:37, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I dislike the format of your version and the article itself (with the GW2W it is fine as it is history and can only get by being on that wiki by being in a storytelling format of the topic's history). -- Konig/ talk 11:42, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Right, okay. I disliked the format on the other two (thought I thought the same of the history on GW2W) and I thought I had fixed it. I'll see if I can do more after I get some decent sleep. --Kyoshi (Talk) [[File:User Kyoshi sig.png]] 11:44, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
 * By the looks of it, editing the first two parts is all that is really needed. I'm gonna finish up the article rewrites I have here if I can today, then write up a new version of the Mursaat article if the issue hasn't been settled by then. Also, sleep is for the weak. >:) -- Konig/ talk 11:46, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
 * And I am not yet strong. See you in the morning and happy editing. --Kyoshi (Talk) [[File:User Kyoshi sig.png]] 11:51, 15 December 2009 (UTC)