ArenaNet talk:Skill feedback

Using for NON-Suggestion Feedback
There seems to be a misconception that this section should no longer be used for Dev Feedback. That is NOT what the Devs had said though, only that they couldn't use it for feedback that involved SUGGESTIONS. And I do not appreciate Backsword being the sole decider of this section's use or Future, and I Contest his attempts to have it "Shut Down". This Section is unique in that its pages CAN be created to allow COLLABORATION and APPENDING on a specific skill topic where-as the Article page of a User-Space can only be edited by a single User per GWW User Policy. Thank you. -- ilr  21:15, 28 June 2009 (UTC) (you've been OutRanked) -- ilr  02:08, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * No one "shut down" this section. The whole point of this section is that ArenaNet is supposed to use it to illicit skill feedback from players, hence why it's called ArenaNet:Skill feedback. However, it can't be read by ArenaNet atm, but the feedback policy is getting changed soon since the wording is done. Once it's done, all this stuff needs to be moved since it isn't license compatible, and the section will need to be reworked since Linsey mentioned she has no problem reading + commenting on this stuff so long as it's done in awhile that lets her be able to tell people she's read some suggestions without commenting, etc, make it easy, etc. Maybe I misunderstand what you mean, but no one is taking this section away, it's just temporarily shut down because ArenaNet can't use it, and it is feedback space created for use by ArenaNet. DarkNecrid 22:53, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I believe you mean "It can't be commented on"... which is FINE. It's not even part of the original Question.  But what I'm talking about is this:  ArenaNet:Skill_feedback/PvE/Classes_of_2009_Issues ...very simple.  It's just examples that more and more people started contributing to.  And it would be nice if it could remain in that state where other users could continue to collaborate on it's Article page for easier reading than a Talk Page provides.  And I can't stress enough the Footnote at the bottom which clearly asks that suggestions NOT be included.  What I'm annoyed by, is that one User posted a big "STFU" over it by adding the Move template when there was no need to, for policy OR Anet Licensing issues... When/If the time comes to move it to the new Namespace (But NOT a UserSpace), I'll be more than happy to see it moved, or facilitate that move myself.  Hope that Clears it up! -- ilr [[image:User_ilr_deprav.png]] 23:14, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Perhaps you missed this ---> . [[Image:User DrogoBoffin sig icon.png|Talk page]] Drogo Boffin 01:38, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Nope, I sure didn't... Perhaps It is you who missed the BIG BOLD footnote at the Bottom that stated: "THIS IS NOT A SUGGESTION PAGE.", hmmm? -- ilr [[image:User_ilr_deprav.png]] 01:59, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks like a suggestion page. [[Image:User DrogoBoffin sig icon.png|Talk page]] Drogo Boffin 02:04, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * "Nothing in the article is a suggestion, otherwise Wyn would have 'X'ed it out days ago when it first appeared on Linsey's Page"

That is your opinion. Maybe she just overlooked it. Drogo Boffin 02:10, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay now I KNOW you're not doing your research first. Look again, she was part of the discussion. Though I'm sure that won't be enough for you. What's your next judgment call gonna be?  Talks like a duck and Walks like a duck?  Emily being wrong too?  Some kind of technicality involving the ButterFly effect and data-transfer through a wormhole?  Sheer Boredom?  It may sound hypocritical at this point but I'd rather not have this argument go on any longer since we really do need to start focusing on the new Namespace... -- ilr [[image:User_ilr_deprav.png]] 02:34, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * BTW my research is done by talking to the people that matter. See below. Thank You and Have A Nice Day. [[Image:User DrogoBoffin sig icon.png|Talk page]] Drogo Boffin 02:44, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

"Collaborative Feedback"

 * Follow Up: There has Not been a large and formal discussion on the future of Collaborative Feedback articles. ...Particularly in the new Feedback Namespace.  While it does present Licensing issues in that only parts of the article created by that users here can be Migrated to that namespace, a general and overwhelming consensus does exist which states that all existing articles in this namespace will need to be archived ANYWAY regardless of where they are, Dev pages, "Feedback", Single-Contributor, UserSpace, or otherwise. ...ALL will have to be archived and/or removed if those articles are to be copied verbatim to the new Feedback Namespace by each individual contributor.  IE: Nothing in current policy is preventing us from using this Namespace right now (or until it starts being Archived) and nothing (according to Emily anyway) will prevent us from Migrating the actual IP-Legal Feedback-parts of this section to the new namespace.  Thank you, Gentlemen... and Good Day -- ilr [[image:User_ilr_deprav.png]] 01:35, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Im sure Ladies read the wiki too.[[Image:User DrogoBoffin sig icon.png|Talk page]] Drogo Boffin 02:07, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Nothing created by users here can be moved or migrated to the new feedback namespace. Everything there has to start from scratch. Anything posted here is just going to be permanently archived, so feel free to have your discussions :D -- Wyn [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon2.png|19px ]] talk  02:42, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I didn't mean the suggestions or wiki-text, silly... :p -- ilr [[image:User_ilr_deprav.png]] 03:19, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

New Section
Shouldn't there be a link to where to go to give feedback now? Some big giant block of text at the top in 24 pt font or something that says 'click here to give feedback'. Right now there isn't anything saying where to go. It says to use the feedback namespace when it goes live, but not how to find that thing. And I'm assuming it's gone live by now, so it needs to be changed from 'when it goes live' to 'it's live, use it'.
 * There will be as soon as the Feedback namespace goes live later this week. These pages will all be marked as archives, and links to the new area will be present. -- Wyn [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon2.png|19px ]] talk  00:17, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Awesome!! I was wondering when feedback area would happen.  thanks!! StatMan 05:07, 12 August 2009 (UTC)