Talk:Nameless Lich

/excited :D-- Mark,     het Beest  15:05, 25 October 2010 (UTC) What does that got to do with this? GW1 servers will still be running, new content will still be coming, and so forth when GW2 comes out. I wouldn't be surprised if the Live Team get more resources due to less being needed for GW2 once the initial release is out due to the core foundation of the game being made. -- Konig / talk 17:05, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Now you know who gives the new quests oO DemonicFahrirDesecrate_Enchantments.jpg 15:19, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
 * "Everything here..." + She have her position locked (she turns back after interacting with her)as if she is looking at the ship... or is she looking in the same direction as something else in Droknar's forge? ;) --Orgeron 16:38, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Glint is evil unless you steal her eggs!!!!!-- Mark,  User Markisbeest sig.jpg]]   het Beest  16:55, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Maybe she's staring toward where Orr used to be? 66.170.212.17 03:58, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * No, too far west. Staring right at the ghost ship - which would be closer to the Tarnished Coast/Ring of Fire Islands. I doubt that. My personal theory is that she's part of a faction that'll be opposing the Lunatic Court - main reasoning being that all previous costumes have been of two rival sides (Grenth vs Dwayna, Shining Blade vs White Mantle, Liches vs Lunatic Court?). The trust thing could be for the players not to trust the Lunatic Court (and I do say we shouldn't trust insane people), and "Everything here is not what it appears to be." could be referencing the Halloween decorations - meaning that what we see isn't what it actually is (which is the case, more or less - perhaps confirming that the holiday decorations here are merely (powerful) illusions). Furthermore, with the reward dialogue of The Killing Joke and An Ingenious Plan, I think that the Nameless Lich (and the Lunatic Court) are intended to be expanded upon in the future (next year). -- Konig / talk 04:41, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Boy. I sure don't wanna wait that long. --Musha [[Image:User_Musha_Sigc.png|19px]] 06:48, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I hardly think so. It seems obvious there's more content coming within the next few days. Especially when you consider that, with any luck, GW2 will be out by this time next year... Arshay Duskbrow 11:22, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I am sooooooo disappointed in Anet if they don't do anything but give these 6 quests and add 3 people, one which doesn't do anything...-- Mark,  User Markisbeest sig.jpg]]   het Beest  16:00, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Six entertaining, lore-filled, highly-rewarding quests is quite more than I hoped for. Manifold [[Image:User_Manifold_Neptune.jpg|19px]] 16:03, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * 6 of which 4 are "Kill enemy X, kill enemy Y, kill enemy Z, get your reward". Dialogues and texts are awesome, but the quest content doesn't really excite me. Waar Kijk Je Naar 16:33, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * "with any luck, GW2 will be out by this time next year..."
 * Except, if Anet is good at business at all, the opposite will happen. A viable plan would be to have all GW:B content done with a reasonable amount of time before GW2. Considering that they're doing GW:B to keep people interested until GW2 comes out, Anet is probably going to follow this plan.  No need to waste additional resources on a past project, they and the playerbase will be better off if they put everything they've got into GW2. 24.118.99.65 02:23, 28 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Hey who knows, maybe if this game runs for 25 more years, we'll see the fall of ascalon. and if it runs for 250 more years or so, guildwars 1 will be guildwars 2.
 * Considering that they're going to be keeping GW1 up after GW2's release, it would be silly to rush - and in turn half-ass - the GW:B content. Especially when taking the amount of resources they have access to into account and the fact that they're not gaining money through GW:B except through the costumes. There isn't any "wasted" resources, and all that's being put into GW1 atm is a handful of designers and programmers (I think it totals to 3 designers, 2 or 3 QA, and their producer at this point in time) - any extra people that work on it (such as all art resources they get) is done on overtime of those people's time. To me, it would seem silly not to continue content after GW2's release, seeing how people won't be getting GW2 for various reasons, and people will be getting GW1 (and returning to GW1 for new content).
 * Edit: @Nibelhim: ... I do hope you're joking because the game's timeline clearly doesn't follow reality's timeline... After all, Nightfall was released a year after Factions, but takes place 3 years later (same goes for EN to NF). -- Konig / talk 02:41, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
 * How completely unrealistic, how could they implement something so wrong like an unrealistic timescale in a game, completely unlike that one thing,what's it called again... magic? It's just blasphemy!-- Mark,  User Markisbeest sig.jpg]]   het Beest  14:55, 28 October 2010 (UTC)


 * I know right? well, even if they slowed down time somehow... following prescheduled holidays... they are forced somewhat to follow a certain timeline. and this is still assuming the servers are up and running 250 years from now when we are all dead. or... zombies... or living in jars.... or cyborgs.... lolNibelhim 15:02, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

I travelled to Orr and look what I got, more time with my grandchildren, and a good meal when they died^^-- Mark,     het Beest  06:22, 29 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Was hoping the Lich would take part in some new Halloween finale event =/ and now halloweens over... Frostnova 16:00, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * ^My feelings exactly. I want to see a conclusion to our new halloween quests. :(  67.149.248.3 00:37, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
 * There will be a conclusion. Don't be surprised if further developments pop up as time goes on, instead of it just strictly being the entirety of it happens next Halloween. I'm not that mean. Usually. XP John Stumme 23:16, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

John Stumme
John Stumme mentioned this NPC in his most recent edit of his user page ("Random Thoughts: Surely, that Lich must do SOMETHING!" ) and his talk page. --Silver Edge 04:03, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Didn't bother mentioning here due to the wtfhating comments above, but Stumme has allowed the TK to say that the Nameless Lich during Halloween was merely foreshadowing. -- Konig / talk 07:20, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Or is it... ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 07:21, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
 * DUN DUN DUNNNNNNN!!!!!!! King Neoterikos 07:24, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Meh, if this is one of those "oh, but you were helping the wrong guy" kind of things I'll be a little disappointed. 203.109.218.36 20:03, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Goal ?
Maybe Nameless Lich is just here to promote the costume. Joeyw 19:31, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I know I would advertise my product in a remote corner of a town nobody visits. ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 01:46, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
 * So, to be continued ? Joeyw 11:03, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, you didn't see John Stumme's comment above? You should read it. --Musha [[Image:User_Musha_Sigc.png|19px]] 06:56, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Livia
'nuff said. -- Large 14:32, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I never understood why everyone says that Livia turned into a Lich after taking the Scepter. --Santax (talk · contribs) 15:37, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Since Livia was mentioned, I must say a comment which I find humorous: People have been wanting Livia to be a "sexy lich" for a long time (always seemed weird to me). People get a "sexy lich" (female lich outfit), and people complain that it's slutty. xD -- Konig / talk 19:04, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, yeah, maybe it's not Livia. We don't really know how the Vizier turned out to be the Lich, but of course the Scepter of Orr had nothing to do with it, since he is already a Lich when we see the Scepter for the first time. However, it is a female lich right there, and it could be foreshadowing. Additionally, the WiK did not shed any light as to when Livia finds the Scepter. Bottom line: I'm purely speculating, but I enjoy that a lot. --[[Image:User Large sig.png|talk]] Large 05:25, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Khilbron's turning into a lich is highly implied to be caused by the Cataclysm - though the Shards of Orr hints at him being older (that, or Orr has had multiple corrupt necromantic viziers). -- Konig / talk 05:30, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Other speculation
During the Halloween event, it appeared this creature was staring at the ghost ship. Outside of the event that ship is different. Canthan perhaps? Could the lich have been an omen related to the upcoming Winds of Change? 76.164.71.104 17:31, 29 April 2011 (UTC)