User talk:Raine Valen/Archive 15

first
pvp protip: stop standing still. Vili &#x70B9; 09:50, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

edit: ToC on the right of the archive box looks fail. :< Vili &#x70B9; 09:51, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I wish people could move while casting, I really do. Except that would break everything except Dervishes, who would benefit greatly.
 * Also, idk how to switch them. :( [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  09:55, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Like that. - Mini Me   talk  10:01, 25 February 2010
 * [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for  Raine,   etc.  10:11, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * All casters should be played by primary Mesmers, imo. You'll get faster res sigs too! Vili &#x70B9; [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 10:10, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * That would just be so far beyond gay. [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  10:11, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * How to kite while knocked down? :< Misery  10:21, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Shadow Walk. [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  10:22, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Junundu Tunnel. Vili &#x70B9; [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 10:23, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Vega is so full of shit. Grapple->Shadow Walk->Shove never worked for me. It did mean I got to laugh at Saint for like a full half hour though when he went to go prove to me it worked. Misery  10:24, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Aura of Stability. I herd gothspike teams had that.  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  10:50, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Vega (and Saint) specifically claim that Shadow Walk cancels knockdowns. Misery  10:52, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * It used to work iirc. --Frosty  [[Image:User Frosty Frostcharge sig.jpg|19px]] 11:42, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Did it take a specific timing? [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  11:49, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I have no idea, but I never got it to work and Saint was all "I do it all the fucking time" so I was all "Show me then ffs!" and he was all fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail, fuck rage, "Maybe they nerfed it". Then Vega did it again to him in TA and he raged. Misery  13:02, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Mizzles, let tye shove spike pro tell you: "lolgrappleshadowwalk" will not "un-kd" you, your char needs to have alredy been KDd for ~0.9 seconds, aka, when you are on your back..
 * Silly mizzles, l2shadow cancle  dark  chaos  kawaii 02:23, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, if I dont forget, I will maek u jewtube vid of haow2shadow cancle, kks? If u rlly want it bug me.  dark  chaos  kawaii 02:26, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't really want, but run my eurospike if you get it to work, that shit be amazing. Misery  06:58, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Link it to me -- dark  chaos  kawaii 19:44, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Grapple both monks, then shadowwalk to target to spike. Misery  21:19, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Awww, shadow walk fuckd everything over, zzz, also iwhen u do the trick, i was using disrupt dag after i shadow walked and it would activate the skill, the skill would begin to recharge, i could kite fromthe target out of half spell range abd when the KD animation ended, the damage and effect of ddagger was executed...
 * you can use the skill, but it wont "activate" till you "stand up" . I only tried it a few times but Ill give it more thought later  dark   chaos  kawaii 22:50, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Late, but w.e, it was fixed two updates ago, zzz -- dark  <font color="gray" face="courier new">chaos  kawaii 22:39, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

oh also
s4 now has a PvE mode, is hard :<

developer tip: games that start out PvP-based should stay PvP-based. I don't care if they die in ~1 hit, you vs. 5 enemies at once for like 10 waves is too hard in a game where things are supposed to die and res frequently. Vili &#x70B9; 10:34, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Use more sword. <font color="#A55858">Misery  10:35, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Aftercast is too long and AoE too small, tbh. A number of enemies also cause knockback with every hit which stops you mid-swing too. Might be able to get away with a CS boom-boom-boom except there's also tons of enemies with guns too. (And I was only on the first level!) It is just not designed for solo play (unless I am totally missing something) - there are just not enough health drops, and none of the defensive skills in s4 are meant to protect against that many foes. (Especially if they surround you. It's like Chaser except you can actually lose the game. I am wondering if there are out-of-the-way places to Fly to, but can't afford it.) Vili &#x70B9; [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 10:43, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Panic and I used to make people lose Chaser all the time :> <font color="#A55858">Misery  10:46, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I used to make people lose Chaser all the time. PS knocklock chains are fucking epic win.  :>  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  10:49, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I am pretty sure enemies have greatly reduced stun duration but I guess I don't have anything else to try. It would help if the bosses didn't have a billion health since stun does so little damage (something like 10-20 FULL SMG clips discharged, with a bunch of criticals and ALSO +50% attack buff on - and there's two of them - and that is only the tutorial). Vili &#x70B9; [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 10:53, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I mean in chaser. You could just Jump -> dash -> heavy (wall KD).  Over and over again.  Hell, you didn't even have to Jump except to drain SP at the beginning.  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  10:57, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh. I preferred juggling them with Rail Gun shots. :> Too much room for error at melee range if the chaser also carries some melee (most do these days, even if just the Training PS)...especially when more than one person is knocking the chaser around, sometimes they'll hit them against a not-wall and then you are in trouble. Vili &#x70B9; [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 11:05, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * You can usually tell whether the KD was successful before you get owned (still causes a decent knockback); that gives you plenty of time to react. Swords are pretty damn clumsy at a distance; if you can get in the clear before they recover from the blow, it's not hard to dance around until you get another opening.  I'm bad, so I don't weaponswap much in sword matches, but it just becomes loleasy if you've got a CS or bat on a swap.  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  11:11, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Misery and I were pretty amazing at wall locking chasers with storm bats. Just get them on a wall, put one person on either side and spam left click. WWWWWHOCK! WWWWWWHOCK! WWWWWWWWWHOCK! Also, I was unbelievably epic at uppercutting chasers off the circle map. Misery's seen me end a Circle Chaser in 5 seconds several dozen times probably. And if they brought fly, just rail gun them. Mr J 12:54, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * S4 is awesome btw. Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ  аІiсә  [[File:User Aliceandsven 1.png]]  ѕνәи  Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 22:15, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes. <font color="#A55858">Misery  22:16, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
 * It's awesome except for the fact that it is impossible to stay solvent without playing a hell of a lot. I calculated it one time, and you need to earn like... 900 PEN every day for armor stuffs (and that is assuming you stay with the cheapest pieces), anywhere from 4-18 PEN per minute depending on how many and what weapons you are using, and finally 9 PEN per minute for skills. Costs can be reduced a little bit by using the "training" equipment and HP+15 skill, but even those cost a little bit of PEN eventually for "repairs". You could also skip some of the optional armor pieces like shoes and gloves, which only give small bonuses, but that makes you less and less competitive. Basically, to stay fully equipped, one needs to earn 900 PEN every 24 hours regardless of actual time spent playing, and during time playing, you need to average at least 27 PEN per minute of game time to break even on weapons and skills.
 * Although S4 starts out a new character with a few freebies, and you can earn some less-powerful weapons from the "license" tutorials, it's really easy to lose that head start. By the time you reach Level 5 and do all of the starter missions, you should have like 50,000 PEN or so. But there is one critical thing that makes this really inadequate: most of your freebie weapons are inferior to the buyable counterparts, so you are still at a disadvantage - and, to be able to properly play in all of the game types, a multitude of different equipment/skill sets are needed! With few exceptions, the same setup won't work in every place. SP Mastery, Anchor, Block, etc. are a must for TD matches, Detect and Flying are great in DM or Chaser, Bind is for super pros, I don't know what works in Arcade ... you need a Handgun for running the ball in TD, at least one melee weapon to participate in a lot of matches (melee-only are popular), a Rail Gun and/or Semi Rifle since snipers are almost always useful, and so on and so forth. While it is certainly possible to fight matches on your own terms and with your favorite equipment, like I did, it's an uphill battle against more specialized opponents. And since you need to earn a certain rate of PEN, one can't afford to lose very often, or even to win cheaply.
 * The real irony is that even if you are pro player in one gametype, s4 has an "anti-farming" code that scales your rewards if you play too long in any one match type. For example I'm best in Deathmatch, but if I just played that all day I'd earn less and less rewards, even if my performance remained consistent. It's essential to mix and match game types...yes, even if you are a real pro, you must play some Chaser matches once in a while to keep the farming penalty down. (Not to mention that the Weeklies frequently cover all game types anyway...and those are essential to do also.) Vili &#x70B9; [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 03:45, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Or, just roll a new character every time you run out of cash and play in free. New character, tutorial, detect license, heal license (if you are me, Smash Rifle if you are Panic), hand gun license is optional because then what you do is waste the ridiculous amounts of starting pen on Fumbi weapons until you have a +6 of whatever you want, a handgun and hopefully a nice plasma sword too. Also, I use detect on everyfuckingthing except chaser because it is a ridiculous advantage to know where your opponents are and I know pew pew jumps on almost every TD map so I can usually keep pace with anchor and fly nigs anyway. <font color="#A55858">Misery  09:48, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I told you years ago that new characters can't Fumbi anything until like level 5 or 10 or something now. Vili &#x70B9; [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 11:44, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
 * You never told me D: <font color="#A55858">Misery  14:23, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Brown Coat
About the browncoat remark, I hope you didn't take it as an insult. I meant it as a compliment since many people with revolutionary actions like MLKjr, were considered browncoats. Heck, at one point obama was once considered the least likeliest to win the presidency back in 2006. In any case discussion, and going against the grain is something that's admirable to do (as long as it's a civil discussion, which I think that's what we were doing) since it makes people think about the issue more critically, and I agree, the wiki is not a democracy. :) -- Lania Elderfire 19:03, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Ra ladder
Its not just MB and VoR.What are the odds we'll ever see Ether Prodigy eles again ? Or Energy Surge mesmers (more likely), A good shock axe/dev hammer and a good monk can do alot.I'd even say that if both are good enough they will get atleast 10 wins.So they are competitive.My problem is that by design classes that don't rely on monks as much would be favored.Mesmers with distortion,Eles with block stances,Ranger got nat stride,.... I can go on but you get the point.At best you'd be getting a pretty defensive ranged arena Yeen  16:32, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Whhhhhat? <font color="#A55858">Misery  18:01, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * How often does that happen? Compared to running a bsurge ele or something mindless, playing war in RA (ESPECIALLY one with frenzy!) is eating bees.  You'll lose half the matches you get in (and that's being generous) regardless of what you do, and it's totally out of your control (if the other team has a bsurge or a necro or a dom mes and you don't have a monk, just /resign because you basically don't exist for the short remainder of the match).  That's not competitive.
 * In a balanced RA, player skill would have more to do with player ability. But as things are now, that's really not the case.  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  18:12, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * and as long as that isn't the case Ra should not have a ladder imo Yeen  18:20, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh wow, to put my previous comment into context, I was very tired and confused and thought this was my talk page. Also, I love you Raine, but I still stomp kittens in RA on a warrior no worries. <font color="#A55858">Misery  21:10, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I like playing war in RA, but I have to say, bsurge and faint make me QQ. I can still push through kills on lazy dom mesmers decently easily, but bsurge and faint ruin me. Empathy is less problematic than those 2 imo. -- <font color="Black">Tha Reckoning [[Image:User Tha Reckoning Sig2.jpg|19x19px]] 23:13, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I actually hate Empathy the most. -- -Chaos?- (moo!) -- 23:19, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I actually hate Empathy the most. -- -Chaos?- (moo!) -- 23:19, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Hi Raine. -- -Chaos?- (moo!) -- 23:19, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Also. unb&! MSN? -- -Chaos?- (moo!) -- 23:46, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Well faint is baed,its OP but you can still attack.You can still *do stuff*.If empathy hits you you pretty much lose your IAS *and* take damage at the same time.Bsurge is even worse since you can't do a thing anymore.I can asure you that if the monk keeps me clean few monks live through me playing whirling (because like none of them prepares to play against knockdowns other then balanced so lol whirling chop chop chop bull shock pewpewpew).Then ofcourse it would have been much easier if the ranger could take out these skills but I'm pretty sure he's already busy dshotting randomly :) or taking out MB or VoR.Ow and why do they always target me ? Even if there are 3 warriors they are like LOL OBSIDIAN PRIDE MUST TARGET! It makes me a sad panda :( Yeen  06:04, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Frenzy + Spirit Bond ignores stuff like Empathy. Vili &#x70B9; [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 07:17, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I like to save my energy for killing stuff.Monks prefer prot spirit aparently.Wich is understandable considering its duration Yeen  11:31, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

You're misquoting alex
His drunkenly glorious statement is actually: "anymore the eviscerate executioners strike spike dont work but its fairly effective. very weak against any type of anti-melee and shock is a costly interrupt skill. " cheers. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:TahiriVeila (talk).
 * Alex? You think it was Alex? What the fuck Jake, get your internet right... <font color="#A55858">Misery  08:20, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * wasnt it mizzouman? - Auron 08:50, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes. <font color="#A55858">Misery  10:23, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Mizzouman voted 3-2 on Shock Axe and that was his reasoning. People just trolled the hell out of the guy and now it's sort of a meme to vote 3-2 and quote that. I counted 9 removed or non-removed votes which refer to it. -- -Chaos?- (moo!) -- 10:23, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Ups I thought alex came up with it since he voted 3-2 on every build on wiki using that reasoning. My bad--TahiriVeila 16:02, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

OH THE IRONYZ
Check out the edit count. <font color="Black" face="cambria">Karate  <font color="Black" face="cambria">Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">23:29, 4 March 2010  (UTC)
 * (diff) (hist) . . Guild talk:Fixed On Christ‎; 19:27 . . (+666) . . Raine Valen (Talk | contribs) (tl;dr: y so butthurt?) →[ » Halogod User Halogod35 Sig.png  (talk)« ]← 23:30, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Well damn. [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  23:32, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * This is true. I'll see ya here in a few. <3 →[ » Halogod User Halogod35 Sig.png  (talk)« ]← 23:34, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * A big get together in hell, eh? :3-- / u / nending <font color="#990000">fear  User Unendingfear Avatar.png 00:09, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Pretty much. Hell's going on a trip to colorado, we're going skiing before we decide to melt it all. :) →[ » Halogod User Halogod35 Sig.png  (talk)« ]← 00:15, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Augury of Death
Is psychic like the Ghostly Hero. ~Shard   02:36, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I would guess the note is incorrect, it was just Dancing Daggers' separate damage packets. [[Image:User_Felix_Omni_Signature.png]]elix Omni 02:41, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
 * No, I frequently spear people to death with 1 damage packages in one shot from ~100 health thanks to Augury of Death. Augury monk ownzzzzzzzzzz. <font color="#A55858">Misery  07:09, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

lern2read pl0x
"Smiter's Boon PVE" last tiem i checked pve didnt have gvg matches 127.0.0.1 16:32, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Wots context, m8?
 * Last time I checked, skills that are imba are imba. 5-energy skills that remove a hex, do 85 hugeass-AoE holy damage, and heal for 85 are pretty ridiculous.  It would be retarded in GvG, and it is no less retarded in PvE.
 * Reading comprehension is hard, but if you work hard, I'm sure you can figure it out. [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  16:43, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * the healing is not enough (cus as overpowered as those socalled pve skills are so are the monsters in general damage and numbers) and when you face a hex in pve you usually face it six times at least so for a hex removal it was useless most of the time 85 is not huge ass its mediocre specialy wehn you got liek one damage spell that doesnt suck no you apply your gvg standards to pve without ever playing pve fro anythin but farmin dungeons with a onk thex context of teh thread was pve period any addin of how overpowered its in gvg doesnt matter at all oh and since most pvers are lame stupid lazy copycats they wouldve got the hook on this overblastpowered smiters boon and kick teh shit ouf ot pve guess what? they didnt and why? because it was extremly weak flexibilty and doin tow things at a time doesnt earn you medals wehn your just mediocre cus of taht yes i figured it out i may not be aware of gvg and stuff but you sir lady dont have a clue of (specialy) hm pve 127.0.0.1 16:56, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * She's a m'am, not a sir. Also, lol@thisconversation. <font color="Black" face="cambria">Karate [[File:User Karate Jesus KJ for sig.png]] <font color="Black" face="cambria">Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">17:03, 12 March 2010  (UTC)
 * It's FREE healing on SMITE skills. It's MORE than enough of that.
 * Also, mobs are pitifully retarded. So what if they have big numbers?  Big numbers do not matter AT ALL when you can tank them (or better yet, have minions soak up all the damage) all just the same.
 * Ever hear of Hexway? It's this thing in PvP where the other team puts 14 hexes on each member of your team while a dervish runs around spamming Wounding Strike.  The hexes are easily reapplied.  The Deep Wound is easily reapplied.  Do you know how you beat Hexway?  BY SHUTTING DOWN HEXES AND DEEP WOUND.  That includes removing them.  No part of PvE is as hex-heavy as a real hexway, so your argument is invalid.
 * 85 holy damage with massive AoE is better than Rodgort's in a LOT of endgame content. Oh, and it removes a hex.  Oh, and it heals for half a Patient.  Oh, and it casts twice as fast.  Oh, and it's 5 energy.  Pretty weak skill, right?  The reasons that most PvEers don't run anything other than Sabway or Discord is because they and their heroes are either (2) too bad to play a real build or (2) too lazy to play a real build (which doesn't matter, because they steamroll PvE, anyway).  It's the same reason people running dungeons make a fortune.
 * You mean like HM vanquishes? Balanced dungeon groups?  Full Deep clears?  DoA?  FoW?  UW?  Been there, done that.  It's boring as fuck because it's so ridiculously easy.
 * Because what? Because you said so?  A skill that's OP in GvG isn't OP other places because you don't feel like it is?  Maybe try a real argument.
 * Protip: smiting isn't as effective as anything running minions because the AI blows so bad. Smiter's boon is ridiculous; the terrible AI is even more ridiculous.  But that's a different topic, isn't it?  That's why.
 * And as far as "extremely weak flexibility", please tell me where hex/condition removal, healing, and damage are bad. By your logic, no one should ever run heals because they're very one-dimensional.
 * Mediocre? How is Holy Hex-Removing Orison Rodgort's mediocre?  It does several things, and it's extremely effective at at least one of them in any given scenario.  Judge's Insight is mediocre?  You said it yourself - mobs in PvE have ridiculous stats.  20% armor pen and holy damage is better there because of it.  Holy Wrath is mediocre, maybe?  It's not bad in PvP, let ALONE in an environment where mobs like to ball up and clusterfuck a person, essentially farming themselves for you.
 * Okay.
 * You mean like HM vanquishes? Balanced dungeon groups?  Full Deep clears?  DoA?  FoW?  UW?  Been there, done that.  It's boring as fuck because it's so ridiculously easy.
 * Anyway, I'm done. That wasn't worth the effort and this definitely isn't worth more than that. ♥   [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  17:46, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Obviously you have no idea what you're talking about because you've never finished like any of the PvE campaigns without someone dragging you through them. *cough* Vili &#x70B9; [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 01:30, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * On the contrary, I finished each campaign once on my dervish without needing to be dragged. :> [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  17:38, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * How ridiculously easy is hexway PvE as a human dervish? -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 18:12, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh my god, I should try that. I've been running Splinter/Smite heroes with my dervish because lolexplosions and lolIkillbossesin4hits.  But PvE hexway could be lulzy, too!  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  18:22, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd be willing to provide another three heroes, assuming we can get schedules to meet. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 19:03, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I want to do a smiteway/hexway hybrid and call it smexyway. [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  19:53, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Protip: smiting isn't as effective as anything running minions because the AI blows so bad. Smiter's boon is ridiculous; the terrible AI is even more ridiculous.  But that's a different topic, isn't it?  That's why.
 * And as far as "extremely weak flexibility", please tell me where hex/condition removal, healing, and damage are bad. By your logic, no one should ever run heals because they're very one-dimensional.
 * Mediocre? How is Holy Hex-Removing Orison Rodgort's mediocre?  It does several things, and it's extremely effective at at least one of them in any given scenario.  Judge's Insight is mediocre?  You said it yourself - mobs in PvE have ridiculous stats.  20% armor pen and holy damage is better there because of it.  Holy Wrath is mediocre, maybe?  It's not bad in PvP, let ALONE in an environment where mobs like to ball up and clusterfuck a person, essentially farming themselves for you.
 * Okay.
 * You mean like HM vanquishes? Balanced dungeon groups?  Full Deep clears?  DoA?  FoW?  UW?  Been there, done that.  It's boring as fuck because it's so ridiculously easy.
 * Anyway, I'm done. That wasn't worth the effort and this definitely isn't worth more than that. ♥   [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  17:46, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Obviously you have no idea what you're talking about because you've never finished like any of the PvE campaigns without someone dragging you through them. *cough* Vili &#x70B9; [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 01:30, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * On the contrary, I finished each campaign once on my dervish without needing to be dragged. :> [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  17:38, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * How ridiculously easy is hexway PvE as a human dervish? -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 18:12, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh my god, I should try that. I've been running Splinter/Smite heroes with my dervish because lolexplosions and lolIkillbossesin4hits.  But PvE hexway could be lulzy, too!  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  18:22, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd be willing to provide another three heroes, assuming we can get schedules to meet. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 19:03, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I want to do a smiteway/hexway hybrid and call it smexyway. [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  19:53, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh my god, I should try that. I've been running Splinter/Smite heroes with my dervish because lolexplosions and lolIkillbossesin4hits.  But PvE hexway could be lulzy, too!  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  18:22, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd be willing to provide another three heroes, assuming we can get schedules to meet. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 19:03, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I want to do a smiteway/hexway hybrid and call it smexyway. [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  19:53, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

I just creamed myself. -- <font color="black" face="courier new">dark  <font color="gray" face="courier new">chaos  i love chaos 22:00, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Sour cream? :3--<font color="#9c5a3c">/ u /  nending <font color="#990000">fear  User Unendingfear Avatar.png 22:02, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

edit summaries
yeah, know your limits -- pling 20:31, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Admit it, the quote is pretty epic though :> -- -Chaos?- (moo!) -- 20:46, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I only quote epic things. :> [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  20:48, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Yay, now you got in trouble for it, too! ^-^ [[Image:User_Ryuu_R.jpg|19px]] Ryuu  - talk  16:50, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
 * That made me laugh.
 * Unfortunately, every muscle in my body is like "NO, GOD, PLEASE STOP! NO MORE!  FRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMM!!!!", so I couldn't really enjoy the laugh. :\
 * I'll tell you about my day if you get on MSN before I pz for the day. [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  17:06, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I probably will, though it's hard to say, really. Spring break is over. ;; Also, wiki-ing in computer classes is so serious. Ryuu wins. [[Image:User_Ryuu_R.jpg|19px]] Ryuu  - talk  17:11, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The fuck did you do to yourself? -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 00:14, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I told you it was one pineapple too many. <font color="#A55858">Misery  09:04, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I understood slicing them beforehand is also a good idea. -- -Chaos?- (moo!) -- 10:28, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

so i herd
ur campin elix Omni 15:16, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * You were lied to. =3 [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  15:19, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I gib up den [[Image:User_Felix_Omni_Signature.png]]elix Omni 15:19, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * It's for the best. ♥ [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  15:26, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * you're smuggling arms through the Amazon. Vili &#x70B9; [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 17:34, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * She's trying to get to da chopaaaaaaaaaa.-- *Yasmin Parvaneh* [[Image:User_yasmin_parvaneh_sig.png]] 17:35, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Do a barrelrooll -- <font color="black" face="courier new">dark  <font color="gray" face="courier new">chaos  i love chaos 22:12, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Btw
I tried to MSN yesterday, but, I got like, spontaneous and/or impulsive plans created on me the second I actually like, almost got home. >_> Sorry. Also! Why don't you just MSN my phone? So easy 2 do  Ryuu  - talk  15:34, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Could've sworn I replied to this. I guess it died someplace in the bowels of Chroms. :\
 * tl;dr version: I assumed you were busy, since you weren't available.
 * Related story: I hate when people leave voice messages on my phone. [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  18:07, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I didn't even know you had a phone. Vili &#x70B9; [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 18:21, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Once upon a time, I had a phone and I used it frequently. Over time, people grew comfortable with the "Michelle uses phone" concept.  They'd call me frequently.  They'd text me frequently.  They were always in contact with me.
 * I bloody hated it. A call every now and then?  Fine.  But I really don't need any sort of constantly-vibrating device in my pants.  I love attention as much as everyone else, but there are standards!  You don't want everyone's attention, you want certain people's attention.  I was getting way too much of the former.
 * Then a great thing happened a while back:
 * I lost my phone. I have no idea how or when, but it was gone!  The incessant "Hi what's up" (I am NOT fucking Twitter) stopped.  Even better, the "Guess what!" stopped.  I swear to whatever gods, nothing is as irritating as those two words.  I don't care what's up.  As if that wasn't bad enough, you are wasting my time by not just bloody telling me in the first motherfucking message.  And then those messages that say "Hey, pls call me back".  As if I needed to check my messages because I couldn't see the MISSED CALL notification.  If I wanted to call you back, I'd call you back.  Damn.
 * Anyway.
 * I've since replaced my phone. However, I barely use it (and I don't mean "barely" as in "a few times a day", I mean "almost never"); this is for a couple of reasons.  Firstly, my number changes every couple of months.  Secondly, the people who I regularly give my number know better than to bother me with trivial shit.  It's one thing on MSN, where I can say "Hey, I'm available, I'm not really doing anything else right now, so let's talk!".  It's something else when you're carrying it around with you every hour of the day, regardless of what else you're doing.  I mean, if I'm not on MSN, I'm probably out somewhere, and that means I'm busy.  Do cellphones care?  Nope.  They'll buzz just the same.
 * Regardless, I lost my phone two days ago; I currently don't have a number. :>
 * I'll get that dealt with eventually. But I'm definitely not in a hurry.  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  19:24, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * "any sort of constantly-vibrating device in my pants."


 * oh thats hawt. pers  onn5 [[Image:User_Personn5_sig.jpg|19px]] 19:27, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh shi- You're right. That's my next QotD :3--<font color="#9c5a3c">/ u /  nending <font color="#990000">fear  User Unendingfear Avatar.png 19:29, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * This is why I went the antisocial route around the time I started high school. Why do you give any sort of attention to the people who send you a text saying "plz2calbak"? -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 21:42, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

For the record, I'm not sure how you got "phone me and talk to me and leave message pwease <3" out of "msn my phone" see, I have my number linked to my msn account, and when I'm offline, any messages you send to me are forwarded to my phone, via text. It's like MSN, but I don't have to sit at my laptop, and I can type on my phone and do it anywhere. Also, you fall into my "certain people", category, so I'm never really that busy! Except maybe if I'm like, writing an exam or something... Ryuu - talk  21:57, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I think you missed the point about constant availability. <font color="#A55858">Misery  23:38, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I think you missed the point about timezones. [[Image:User_Ryuu_R.jpg|19px]] Ryuu  - talk  00:12, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, if you don't get it because you're Misery, constant-ness isn't possible with... Oh, forget it. [[Image:User_Ryuu_R.jpg|19px]] Ryuu  - talk  00:16, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm just being mean Ryuu. You know me. <font color="#A55858">Misery  06:55, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The Wall O' Text was in response to Vili's "I didn't even know you had a phone."
 * In response to "MSN my phone": k. [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  13:14, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I have several fake but real numbers that I give out to people I don't want to talk to very much to avoid that problem since that was a problem for me in the past. I just go through the phone book and find numbers to names that sound mean...lol. You should get your number changed when you get a new phone, and then give out the number to just a few people you trust that won't advertise your new number to every person they see. I do that every time I get a new phone upgrade so that the few annoying people that somehow divined my real number would stop calling or texting me. -- Lania Elderfire [[Image:User Lania Elderfire pinkribbon.jpg]] 14:33, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I just ignore annoying people. It's remarkably effective and means that people who don't suck who have my number from some point in time can always find me. <font color="#A55858">Misery  14:44, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * You should teach me how to do that some day. I can do it somewhat effectively in person, but I just can't seem to do it on the internet, for the most part. And, even in person, it's really difficult to stay committed to. [[Image:User_Ryuu_R.jpg|19px]] Ryuu  - talk  15:01, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * One thing I like to do sometimes is just stare at them straight in the eye while they blabber at me incessantly while maintaining a poker face... doing that seems to unnerve people quite a bit... especially people who are trying to impress me. They start getting flustered, talk faster and get annoyed.  Some people get angry which can be funny.  After a couple of minutes they stop talking and walk away.  I think a lot of annoying people just like to hear themselves talk and to get a reaction from it.  If they get no reaction whatsoever, they don't seem to get the pleasure out of it at all.  One thing I notice is that staring into the left eye seems to work better than into the right eye.  It's also a good way to telling if they are lying or not too. -- Lania Elderfire [[Image:User Lania Elderfire pinkribbon.jpg]] 18:55, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Nodding Acquaintance
Listen to it.  is for  Raine,   etc.  19:51, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Sexting Listen to it. -- <font color="black" face="courier new">dark  <font color="gray" face="courier new">chaos  i love chaos 22:15, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

could you
MSN, like, now? I swear I'll be quick. Vili &#x70B9; 01:18, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Is that
even water? o.O -- Armond Warblade 01:19, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * idk and I didn't ask. [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  01:51, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I wish I could see where the water connects :< --User Ezekial Riddle silverbluesig.png <font color="#dce2e8">R <font color="#cfdae5">I <font color="#b8c2cc">D <font color="#a1b1bf">DLE 01:55, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Considering that the foreground is basically in regular proportion as if you were standing right there, I'm gonna assume it's not an aerial. Vili &#x70B9; [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 01:56, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * idk, that's assuming that those rocks are relatively small; they could well be largeish. If you look at the water (if it is, in fact, water), the pic looks like it was taken from pretty far away.  I'd wager that it was taken off of a cliff or some such.  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  02:12, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * That brownish/yellow stuff almost looks like an iron mine runoff by the way the rocks next to it is stained... kinda like this . In any case it looks unnatural :-/... where didya find this? -- Lania Elderfire [[Image:User Lania Elderfire pinkribbon.jpg]] 19:58, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * A friend sent some pics from her trip to Costa Rica; I've been using them for the past couple of days. [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  20:00, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, so I checked it in high-res; those are definitely trees, so I'm going to have to say it was taken from a high place. [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  17:19, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Audiosurf
Anyone?  is for  Raine,   etc.  07:46, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, I've seen that before. Sometimes when I am looking on YouTube for that is the only video available. Which is annoying since it tends to be crap quality: not only degraded by YouTube but also since it's playing through another program as well. Other than that I'd still prefer something more like Stepmania. But then I'm terrible at racing/driving games and will always hate them. :) Vili &#x70B9; [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 12:33, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * It's fun, but I have the same problem as Vili. Also, it's on Chloe's Steam, which means I don't get a chance to play it anymore. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 15:44, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * They need to introduce an achievement for playing through all (17 minutes) of in-a-gadda-da-vida while totally smashed and/or high. - Auron 19:05, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Audiosurf while smashed is a reward in and of itself. :> [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  19:36, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

editing section links
yeah, know your limits. -- pling 22:51, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi!
 * While I've got your attention, I feel inclined to bring up something that I've been considering for the past couple of days.
 * Trolling not beneficial to the wiki. What would one have to do to get an anti-trolling policy put in place?  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  00:06, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
 * You would need to get the wiki to agree, and I wish you luck if you wish to try- I expect you'll need it. Not foreseeing anyone saying GWW:TROLL > discretion any day soon. – Emmett  00:10, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Draft said policy, perhaps, or find someone willing to.--User Oneshot O.JPG neshot 00:12, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah - draft something and start a discussion. You could read Guild Wars Wiki talk:No trolling to see a previous attempt, but obviously that was a long time ago and things have likely changed. -- pling User Pling sig.png 15:41, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

"If we replaced boxing gloves with shotguns, would it make boxing less stale?"
Well, done, my adorable friend. Well, done. <font color="Black" face="cambria">Karate  <font color="Black" face="cambria">Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">20:46, 26 March 2010  (UTC)

Haiku
.....I lol'd so hard. Thanks for the haiku! I will ponder it tonight to try and figure out what it means.... MiraLantis 23:39, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
 * You're very welcome! :D [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  02:19, 28 March 2010 (UTC)