User talk:Xeeron/suggestions/Make it PLAYER vs PLAYER again

Maybe if 50 more people make the same suggestion, anet might actually...nah they'll never get a clue. ~Shard  23:28, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe if people like you are a bit nicer to the makers of this game, they would, maybe, listen. On topic: It is called PvP for a reason, and lots of people are making the suggestions already. Demonic Cobra 22:41, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * No, it's the other way around. We'd be nicer if they "listened."  I was nice to anet for 2 years and nothing happened, so I tried something new, and it gets results.  If they didn't want everyone yelling at them, they should "listen."  ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 22:48, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * On topic: It is called PvP for a reason thats MY POINT. If we're nice they don't care, if we're a little more harsh, they still dont LISTEN. So we might as well let them know. -- adrin [[Image:User_adrin_ecto_sig.png]] 22:46, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * They may not "lissen" but generally they do listen. They may not act on what they've heard, but they do listen.- TheRave [[Image:User_TheRave_sig.png|talk]] (talk) 22:53, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * This is my point. You rather language bash then have a decent suggestions that Anet needs to change something. Or maybe help them out. People dont listen to rude people. Especially not when they have the power and you have nothing. I would like to ask you to try and be kind for a week, and see what results you get. And yes, you are allowed to correct my fantastic gramma. Because i are not english person. Demonic Cobra 06:30, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * If they're listening but never doing anything, what's the point of adding this namespace? ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 08:48, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Resetting indent... I totally agree with this. We need to drop the heroes thing. Also, bring back 6vs6 HA! That's where all the fun was at anyways! That's practically what it is right now... Teaseway Needs a nerf, but seriously, just don't let people bring heroes. Colonel Hawk 05:42, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I dont know yet about the 6 man HA. Lots and lots of people quited playing because of this. I rather see that they do something about the heroes first and then make some decent changes in all the maps. Teaseway will be killed when heroes get kicked out of HA. But if the heroes get kicked out when it becomes 6 man again, ill sign up for that. Demonic Cobra 09:31, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Saying "it's literally correct" reminds me of the Anchorman movie: "It's AnchorMAN not AnchorWOMAN, and THAT'S a SCIENTIFIC FACT!!"--Skye Marin 18:46, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Why it may not work out
This new argument posted today is ridiculous. Before Nightfall nobody had heroes to form parties with. Let people use some social skills to get that rank. Yes that means you have to learn the rules and basics of the Heroes Ascent game. That is something most hero ways lack these days. It will be hard making a party, but it is the same problem when you are higher ranked. Most of the higher ranked play with friends they met when getting the first titles. Plus the fact that there are plenty of people that don't care about rank if you play well. Demonic Cobra 10:20, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Cool so why do I encounter bad pve teams with 4 heroes all the time in GvG? The problem isn't that heroes can be taken into PvP, the problem is that they are good. People could always take henchmen into HA/GvG and I don't think anyone complained about that, because they were bad, but people still did it when they couldn't get a full 8 man team. Make reasonable suggestions that actually fix the problems, not create new ones. Let's fix Palm Strike by buffing Can't Touch This! :D Misery  10:25, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * So fixed Palm Strike with Can't Touch this! ? okay. So it becomes something like this? [[Image:"Can't_Touch_This!".jpg | 35px]] 5 [[Image:Tango-energy.png]] 20 second [[Image:Tango-recharge-darker.png]] Shout. For 20 seconds, the next touch Skill used against this ally fails. I doubt it will fixed the meta game. I would rather see that heroes just get kicked out of HA. Demonic Cobra 13:21, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
 * But you just nerfed it. Vili [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 12:44, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
 * It should be working on all allies. But I quess it needs a rework to this then. [[Image:"Can't_Touch_This!".jpg | 35px]] 5 [[Image:Tango-energy.png]] 20 second [[Image:Tango-recharge-darker.png]] Shout. For 20 seconds, the next touch Skill used on a party member within earshot fail. 'Can't touch this' ends on that ally.  It that any better?  Demonic Cobra 13:21, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
 * You know when I said "buff can't touch this to fix palm strike" I was giving an example of the wrong way to try and fix something. Misery  13:26, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I know, im just trying to fixed it the Anet way. It might work and get introduced into the game. /sarcasm The problem still remains. Palm strike is still an ridiculous because of its ability to skip the lead attack AND do a lot of damage + condition. But the main problem is still the heroes. Rupts on every thing + weapons on nearly every target. But Anet doesnt seem to care since they didnt respond. Maybe the April update will fixed it, after every one has left Guildwars. Demonic Cobra 13:38, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The reasonable fix is to just gimp hero AI in PvP so no good team would take them over a human. Make them as bad as a pug. Interrupts on recharge and maintain weapon spells on themselves kthx. Misery  13:59, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Keep Heroes? WTH?
With the incorporation of heroes, we have lost the 'real player' aspect of the pvp side of the game. Who could really spam "Tease" like Norgu? No one, that's who. Ever since heroes was introduced, World of Warcraft has boomed. Don't believe me, buy WoW and ask players who used to play GW? The answer I got many times was, "Yes I used to play, but ever since they brought heroes into PVP I quit". The reason I know this is because I too quit for 4 months as the PVP part of GW was the only one I really enjoyed playing anymore. Since they brought heroes into PVP, I left and decided "Oh what the heck, I'll buy WoW too and see what the fuss is all about" Well, I lasted a month and came back to GW as I didnt like Wow. I still love GW but it's harder and harder each day to go to Heroes Ascent and watch a completely human Rank 10 team get slaughtered to Rank 3 guys with 2 heroes. No I'm not a rank snob but have you ever considered how hard we've worked to get those titles just to watch Norgu and his leet Tease spam beat us into submission?

Geez Anet, think you might want to admit this wasn't the most brilliant idea you ever had? Now we are being told that Anet is considering making PVP in GW2 comparable to WoW's pvp. Just another way to kill off the PVP community, like we're not dead in the water already, really, how much more harm could you really do to us? We're already becoming HA dinosaurs, keep the heroes and watch us become extinct like them too. Oh ya, if we become extinct, that means GW does too. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Jsgetty (talk).