Talk:Spectral Vaettir

Farmable?
In Jaga Moraine are Groups existing out of nothing but these Vaettir, abaut two dozen foes...If you get around the other groups before these and can create a build that can own theirs, this could maybe work... —Zerpha The Improver 18:25, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
 * What's there to farm?  Calor  - talk 18:34, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Glacial Stones. Backsword 18:39, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Glacial Stones, for which you can trade 100 for Glacial Gauntlets. They are very farmable; I have done so during the preview weekend.
 * They'll just spell-spam themselves to death. Run out there from Sifhalla and just zone back and forth from Bjora Marches to continuously farm them. --Valshia 18:50, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, thank you :) I thought so...there are players again and again that try to sell 100 for far too high prices... —Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 17:58, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmm lol it's also mentioned in Talk:Glacial Stone —Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 18:07, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

inspiration
i have hard time finding their inspiration atribute, maybe it changes like chromatic drakes ? --lussh 19:18, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

12-13 in HM MystiLefemEle 08:03, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Hard Mode
Are these bugged in HM? Just tried to vanquish the area with a team and I can't do more than 5 damage to one with a hammer... now, this is essentially a caster creature, surely I should do more than 5 damage to it?BorisDePig 23:43, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
 * They hav inherent abnormously high armor rating, this and their build suggests that vaettir don't like physicals. Ɲ oɕʈɋɽɕɧ  23:45, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
 * If you think about it they are kinda ghosts so its not that surprizing that a hammer goes through them.90.227.60.42 21:15, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I've done 45 dmg to them with Savannah Heat during whole 5 sec (3,6,9,12,15). On normal mode. This surely is abnormal. Gunm 15:17, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * That suggests they have around 170 armor in NM from the lower Armor_rating table (21 * .1487 = 3.1227 ~= 3) --Falseprophet 18:29, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

My Discord does 115 dmg to themHubbard The Dervish 18:05, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Discord is armor ignoring damage, not elemental or physical damage. KILL MementoMori 22:52, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

farming
kk i farm these on HM i go though the long way were the guy is with the barrels i (perma) after u run the long way with the barrel guy u perma then u agro one side take and drop the barrels real fast u might want 2 move the drop bundle button 2 the chat screen so if u miss u dont move then u press v 2 select the barrel guy then u use an teleporting assassin skill 2 go 2 him make sure they surround u then u drop away just zone in and out after u kill 60 of them

have fun ur favrite GW member

Holy And Unholy
 * Well, that is one way to farm them :) MystiLefemEle 12:43, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I prefer something like OgVEMLSJzxYAk+fVtxSgHmNWiA and I just run from Longeyes.--68.32.187.152 06:33, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, running from Longeyes is easier, just have to be aware that an occassional spawn of the "Solo" Frozen Elemental may show up. MystiLefemEle 08:01, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Total Health?
Does anyone know just how much health these guys have in HM? --68.32.187.152 14:44, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Using Rank 5 Light of Deldrimor 9 times put their health at about 600, making them pretty ridiculously tough with that armor. --Mister Snipey 04:20, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

warriors?
Since they have such high armor, couldnt it be that these creatures are W/Me? because they have load more armor then most casters and theyre attack is melee. and they drop a lot of sword, axes, hammers and shields... im thinking these guys have a mixed profession
 * They drop mesmer tomes. They're not warriors.198.37.19.137 18:40, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

How to nerf Kegfarm:
Swap Lyssa's Aura for Illusionary Weaponry. gg. 128.255.216.144 21:28, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, since we would all love to vanquish 60 level 26 with ridiculously high armor that ignore armor themselves. Very nice. Paddymew 15:10, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

You dont try vanqing all 60 at once... and IW was a very good suggestion since it cuts right through SF meaning no tanking soo many at once Justice 21:11, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Observed drops
Is it just me, or do these guys only drop Mesmer weaponry? My VoS derv farm only gets these anyway. Pastafarian Hunter 16:05, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
 * If I recall, they drop other weapons too.MystiLefemEle 12:31, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I've gotten everything form axes to hammers, to wands form them. No different than anything else really Nay the One and Only [[Image:User Nay the One and Only SIG.png]] 21:46, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
 * They drop; Gold: Daggers, Bows, Axes, Hammers, Swords, Shields, and Mesmer Wands, Offhands, and Staves, including the semi-rare skin Fuchsia Staff, shields drop both as strength and tactics and sometimes motivation, since I last "Keg Farmed" them the drops do appear to be slightly different but it may just be coincidence. Imo this is the last best solo farm in the game and is best for Golds and Holiday drops, Mesmer tomes and Glacial Stones are also plentiful with enough farming here. --71.210.33.118 09:22, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Still farm them
I do. Put a message on my talk page and I'll give you the ASSASSIN build.--Bestat Talk to me! 09:44, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

More Damage when moving?
Do they deal more damage when they hit you while moving? I am asking this becouse i farm them often and they hit with 0 when im standing still, and with 4-12 when i move. the build i am using is A/Mo Vaettir Farm build
 * from the critical hits page "If you strike a moving foe in the back, you will always score a critical hit. This is particularly important to remember when Kiting as you may end up causing more damage to yourself by the critical hits your attackers are making." 65.6.156.101 10:31, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I love that build, when I'm not AFKing thats one of my fave thing to do. --Bestat Talk to me! 11:30, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
 * If you wish to avoid these critical hits, you can simply use the backwards-movement key to move (albeit slowly) without taking the critical hit damage. [[image:User_Yena_Newsig1.png‎|Talk‎]] ena. 11:32, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, that explains, thank you.

HP
I removed this comment "These creatures have somewhere between 600 and 700hp. (if someone knows exact, plz tell)" if someone wants to research it and get a solid number in HM and NM I guess it could go back 192.203.160.241 17:08, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Ive reaserched it. 6 Crystal Waves at 15 earth magic (=100 damage each) Kill them. Reapeat.thats 600 damage. they die after 600 damage. therefor. they have 600 Health. Done. -- Nei l2250  ,    Render Lord User Neil2250 sig icon6.png 18:37, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * test 1,2,3,4: 600 damage taken = dead every time. -- Nei l2250  ,    Render Lord User Neil2250 sig icon6.png 18:42, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * This only proves they have between 500 and 600 health. --BlueNovember 10:04, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Not between 500 - 600, but 600 HP.MystiLefemEle 08:25, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Update
5/21/10 update says they've got a new skillbar. I smell nerf D:. Can anyone confirm skillbar?69.249.223.63 22:29, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Just wandered out there, Obby Flesh farm still works perfectly, I dropped Obby Flesh once, and they now have Mind Wrack. That's the only difference I could see; forgot the SoC.
 * Ok. Thanks. Also, wouldn't SoC not work (no bosses)?69.249.223.63 23:17, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the confirmation, i was shatting bricks thinking my last well-rounded farm was out, but it isent, so yay ^_^ -- Nei l2250  ,    Portal Jumper User Neil2250 sig icon6.png 23:41, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
 * A/Mo farm still works fine, too. Wombatt 02:08, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Subjective
To prevent 1rr bringing this to talk "Interestingly, these creatures deal earth damage. " should be replaced with "These creatures deal earth damage." what is interesting is subjective to the player. It is however odd and that is why it is noted. MrPaladin  &dagger;  talk 19:32, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Probally due to them being of Mesmer class, the fact they deal earth type damage is noted and of notable interest.MystiLefemEle 08:27, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Drop rate data
Use this section to add drop rate data for farming SVs in Hard Mode. (Total drops = number of any type of drop, including those listed to the right.)

damage note
as far as i know the note is wrong (it used to be right), Vaettirs dont deal Earth damage, they deal Elemental Damage, wich means armor vs any type of elemental damage works (and all mantra's work etc). (KILL MementoMori 23:21, 12 March 2011 (UTC))
 * Incorrect; their attacks triggers mantra of earth -- Neil • User Neil2250 sig icon6.png 23:24, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Neil is right I've tested it before other mantra's won't work BTW Hi Neil =D --User The Holy Dragons sig.png The Holy Dragons 23:27, 12 March 2011 (UTC)