Talk:Unyielding Spirit

Wow. That's interesting. Can't wait to see wiped out teams in GvG do absurd damage lol. 72.79.223.41 02:44, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I really do hope to see spike teams sac'ing themselves to death 3 times before starting the fight. [[Image:User_Felix_Omni_Signature.png]]elix Omni 04:05, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * hopefully this may spark comebacks in RA for teams without monks lol, but it can go both ways WingsOfExilia 07:03, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * mix with vengeance on a split team for lulz... If only necroes were less meta :( Z  encow [[Image:User_Ox_rider_Sig.png]] 11:00, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Almost makes me wish this one was in PvE too. I suck and die a lot.  This would help me bunches :D.
 * You would still have very little health68.111.174.90 23:47, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Double vamp one hand with -50hp offhand anyone?
 * You deal 30% more damage, but die twice as fast, er no. 95.144.47.164 16:32, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Prot Spirit sez hai. --198.228.209.153 19:14, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Enchantment strip sez hai back. --User The Holy Dragons sig.png The Holy Dragons 19:56, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Echo Chain'd Aegis says hai. [[Image:User Anvil_God_AsuraSignature.jpg|15px]] Anvi God  zzz...  20:14, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Mirror of Disenchantment says hi. Damysticreaper 20:36, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Generic PvE scrub says hi there ^^. [[Image:User Anvil_God_AsuraSignature.jpg|15px]] Anvi God  zzz...  20:41, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Shadow Form says hii--99.243.162.52 21:24, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Displacement, Shelter & Union says Hi! ^_^ --Falconeye 03:09, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Halogod says hai. →[ » Halogod User Halogod35 Sig.png  (talk)« ]← 19:30, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * @Felix: They don't need to sac themselves per se, they just need to let the zaishen team kill them a few times and hard res then wait out so they don't get a morale boost. Also, sway is strong and Soul Twisting and Shelter (PvP) spam through anti-rupts will guide you through! The PD mesmer should be dead before he reaches anywhere near your rit anyway ;D Z  encow [[Image:User_Ox_rider_Sig.png]] 22:47, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Beast Masters
Tested on the Isle of the Nameless (PvP). Neither beast-master or pet is benefited by this. Even when the beast-master has 60DP (accomplished by hugging the Student of Burning) there is seems to be no difference even with Feral Agression and maximally stacked Enraged Lunge which should be doing at least the (10*1.3)+(80*1.3)=117 armor-ignoring damage at rank 14 Beast Mastery but this is not so. Thus, while you may still have trouble with unblockable pets enraged lunged->brutal strike spam, rest assured that they aren't hitting any harder than before. Z encow  11:32, 1 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Pet's don't suffer from Death Penalty so it wouldn't effect them, and the beast master isn't the one doing damage the pet is.


 * Pets DO suffer from DP in certain game modes 78.35.135.82 13:13, 1 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Does this mean saccer mes/N (Esurge) + resser mes/Mo (keystone?) sync's become pwn? 82.156.22.85 14:27, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I would bet they (the pets) aren't under the effects of Unyielding Spirit. [[Image:User Anvil_God_AsuraSignature.jpg|15px]] Anvi God  zzz...  19:49, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * It seems to me that, even if the pet IS affected, the pet is the one that needs the DP, not the handler. So it doesn't matter how much DP you have, its not going to buff the pet. 209.216.179.184 22:36, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I just wanted to make sure since the skill is used by the ranger which perplexed a large number of people. Now having issues wording it all to add a note on the article. :/ Z  encow [[Image:User_Ox_rider_Sig.png]] 22:31, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Punish a team for winning and doing better
But it's ok we're giving you more sweets and party points!
 * A trueee good team should be able to win through it regardless. ;o Z  encow [[Image:User_Ox_rider_Sig.png]] 11:21, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Exactly. Species become extinct all the time for not being able to adapt. Same happens in competition when something changes. Mith[[Image:User MithranArkanere Star.png]]Talk 11:42, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Totally useless in AB.
8| ♥ Tyloric ♣ 13:33, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * of course it is. flux only affects pvp remember?


 * AB = PvP, well mechanic wise. I dont think you get dp in ab, jq, fa though. Justice 19:01, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
 * It is indeed useless in AB as well in FA and CM due to the lack of DP in those areas. The effect is nice but poorly desiged because it does not affect all PvP formats wich it should seeing that the icon of the effect apears in all PvP formats. Damysticreaper 17:17, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Probably also doesn't have any effect in the Random and Codex Arena map The Crag, since it has no death penalty. --Silver Edge 02:34, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

No update
does that mean it was already updated into the .dat? Does this also mean there are probably more Fluxes already in the .dat?--83.82.62.210 16:46, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
 * It's June 16, not July 1. Mith[[Image:User MithranArkanere Star.png]]Talk 17:10, 16 June 2011 (UTC)