Feedback talk:Main

Feedback portal suggestion
Suggestion... For the feedback portal! Anyways, anyone that watches the feedback space knows about the large amounts of vandalism it gets, most of it unintentionally through ignorance. Well, we currently have the "add a suggestion" bit in a user's feedback, does anyone think that if this bit was added to the categories as well it might help stem the improperly submitted ideas? Wouldn't be too hard to add to the pages, really.--Neithan Diniem 16:10, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
 * The system is set up so that users maintain responsibility for their suggestions, They have to follow the progression, and have to read instructions. If they can't be bothered to do that, they certainly can't be expected to maintain responsibility for those suggestions. I don't believe deviating from the established process would do anything other than make it worse. None of what we see here is "vandalism" it's ignorance, and it's solved through education. -- Wyn [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon2.png|19px ]] talk  21:47, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm... true. I didn't think about that bit of their responsibility. Most of the suggestions that have been placed onto the category talk pages or the main pages themselves have been minimal at best, and no where near complete suggestions (or at least understandable). Guess it would be right to think that such suggestions would probably not be maintained after their posting, then. Meh, it was worth mentioning I guess, cause now anyone else with the idea would see this now.--Neithan Diniem User Neithan Diniem Sig.png]] 04:15, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

anet staff...
could we make a template that we can put on top of all the anet staff pages saying something to the effect of "WAIT: is this the appropriate place to post this? is your comment a suggestion to improve the game? if yes please post all feedback suggestions in the feed back user space found here. if someone else sees it as a suggestion it will be moved to your own feed back space." ?- Zesbeer 09:48, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
 * They've been on the older dev pages for years. No one ever read them. [[Image:User_Felix_Omni_Signature.png]]elix Omni 10:21, 6 March 2011 (UTC)


 * I support Zesbeer's idea. Many people read them and will change their behavior accordingly. They also serve as a warning (preventing the kind of hey, you didn't warn that Troll before blocking it digression that has happened in the past). I hope that it will also enable sysops to act more quickly to move inappropriate posts (although recently, the team has been better about that). — Tennessee Ernie Ford ( TEF ) 16:55, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
 * How would that fix anything? Look at how well the feedback talk pages' warning message is so expertly followed.--Neithan Diniem User Neithan Diniem Sig.png]] 22:09, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Sysops warn on individual user talk pages on a case by case basis. The rules of the feedback space already covers the consequences for abusing developer staff pages. I agree with Felix that posting stuff at the top of the staff talk pages means nothing because the majority don't read them anyway. Reasonable but uninformed people will move their suggestions when it's explained to them where/how to do it properly, unreasonable people won't care and will do whatever they want, and end up banned by the sysops. -- Wyn [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon2.png|19px ]] talk  22:18, 6 March 2011 (UTC)


 * A friendly reminder does no harm, will cause some people to refrain from posting inappropriately, and will prevent some of the griping that goes on after a suspension. You can easily find Stumme's feedback page without seeing the rules of the feedback space so this would make it more likely that reasonable people are also informed people. I wouldn't expect it to solve all problems since, of course, some people won't care no matter what.


 * It's hard to measure the effectiveness of preventative measures because, by their very definition, if they work well, we won't see the effects. Let's not assume that because unreasonable people didn't pay attention to the warnings on the older dev pages that no one paid attention. — Tennessee Ernie Ford ( TEF ) 00:47, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Obsolete suggestions
What is the appropriate way to deal with suggestions that are now irrelevant, that have been added to the game, or that the creator has changed their mind about? For example, Standardize hero listing or Add Summoned Creatures (From Stones) to Party List. Manifold  00:58, 11 March 2011 (UTC)


 * delete If they are irrelevant or the creator no longer cares about them. Perhaps we could also create a template for outdated suggestion that would filter them from the main Feedback list.


 * However, I don't think that it should be up to the community to make that decision (after all, many people would say that certain ideas are obsolete when they were originally suggested). Post a note on the discussion page (or the creator's talk page) and ask them to take appropriate action. It doesn't do any significant harm to have an outdated suggestion; it's just inconvenient. — Tennessee Ernie Ford ( TEF ) 01:21, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Alright, thanks. I'm going to update the FAQ accordingly. Manifold [[Image:User_Manifold_Neptune.jpg|19px]] 02:06, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
 * There is a parameter  in the infobox template. Use that, but don't delete otherwise valid suggestions. poke | talk 18:10, 12 March 2011 (UTC)