User talk:Raptors/Archive

Keep out of it &mdash; Skuld 10:53, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Stay away from Eloc, simple. Everytime I see you two together you and Auron just team up on him. I'm gonna go ahead and keep in it until I see this conflict resolved. --- Raptors
 * The situation is being dealt with, I'd request that you please try to not inflame the situation further (a la hockey's "third man in" rule). [[Image:User Aiiane-a.gif|Go to Aiiane's Talk page]] (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 22:34, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Yea, whatever. --- Raptors

>.>
Cookies. >.>  Vengeance  18:13, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, cookies are indeed very good. --- Raptors

The REAL Raptor's talk page!!!
I found it!

Aww
Aww, I'm no longer your friend?-- §  Eloc   §  15:46, 10 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I didnt think you ever even saw that, thats why I got rid of it. Im still your wikifriend dude and I got your back from all the haters. --- Raptors
 * I remember why I took my name off of that list now, it's cause of the God thing on your userpage. I am a Christian and it sort of offended me. I'm not saying that what you think is wrong but thats how I feel about it. --- Raptors
 * =S, I removed it anyways. I has to shorten my userpage as it was getting too long anyways, my entire familiy is Christian but I just don't have as much faith as them I suppose.-- §  Eloc   §  22:24, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I understand what you mean completely, but don't worry about it, its no big deal. --- Raptors
 * LoL, nvm. Was just curious why you were off my list. Also, vote for me in the Election :P.-- §  Eloc   §  23:04, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't think I have enough edits to vote in a bcrat election. --- Raptors
 * Hmm, I'll check for ya.-- §  Eloc   §  23:30, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, after checking for you, I found that you have 7/100. So...93 more edits to go! :P.-- §  Eloc   §  23:33, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Haha yea, I'll get right on that >_> --- Raptors
 * LoL.-- §  Eloc   §  18:10, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Ty
Ty for your constant support and helping me. I truly do appreciate it ^^.-- §  Eloc   §  18:24, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Np man. --- Raptors
 * However defence in the form of continued personal attacks at Gem or any other user will not be tolerated on the talk page for Eloc's candidacy or anywhere else for that matter. -- Lemming [[Image:User Lemming64 sigicon.png]] 01:09, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The only thing I could barely consider a personal attack would be telling her to stop harassing Eloc about his candidacy. Other than that I see no personal attacks. --- Raptors
 * Personal attack number 1: "Gem, just go back to taking your little break and stop harassing Eloc, or you'll get harassed back, like you should."
 * Personal attack number 2: "and he should be able to do that without getting harassed by some girl on the internet."
 * The first comment is a threat and the second comment is an attack can be taken one of two ways. Either you think gem is a girl and are attacking that as something bad. Or you know gem is a guy and you are calling him a girl like it is a bad thing. Either way you have been warned, read the GWW:NPA policy and try not to step over the line in the future please. -- Lemming [[Image:User Lemming64 sigicon.png]] 01:27, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * A pink diamond and username Gem are all more girly things than guy things. I honestly thought Gem was a girl. But I dont care either way. I'll shut up for now. --- Raptors

Removing comments
Please don't do this again, as it breaks userpage policy. Thanks. - Auron 01:48, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * That was an accident, cause I highlighted what you wrote to copy and paste it in case I needed to, and starting typing while it was still highlighted, removing it. So chill out with the policies. --- Raptors
 * Just an accident, really no harm.-- §  Eloc   §  05:17, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Editing comments
Don't edit other people's comments please. --Santax (talk · contribs) 12:43, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Show me the policy where I cant. --- Raptors
 * It's wikiquette (as is signing with four tildes), and just common sense. --Santax (talk · contribs) 12:46, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * All I did was capitalize God, it's not like I vandalized. As for the 3 tildes, I like it better. --- Raptors
 * And what's wrong with him not capitalising god? --Santax (talk · contribs) 12:50, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Because its a typo, and I fixed it. According to the userpage policy I can correct obvious typos. --- Raptors
 * Well, it isn't a userpage, but I figure it should still apply. --- Raptors
 * You can correct your typos, and how do you know it's a typo? Not everyone capitalises god. Look, I'm not going to have a big debate with you about this, so I'm gonna leave it there. --Santax (talk · contribs) 13:01, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Good, cause its not wrong. To make a deal with you, I won't correct where you didn't capitalize God just now. Kkthxbai. --- Raptors
 * It really depends which god he was talking about. LordBiro 16:44, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * If I want to type god in lowercase I will! :p -- Lemming [[Image:User Lemming64 sigicon.png]] 17:01, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, God should always be capitalized. It's the core of all language to capitalize a religion figure head. Even before Science, there was religion.-- §  Eloc   §  20:03, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The core of all languages is it? I don't know what the core of a language is, but I hope to Science that it's not religion. Unsurprisingly I don't agree that "even before Science, there was religion", but this is a wiki about Guild Wars, not religion. To get back to the issue at hand, altering the capitalisation of the word "god" can significantly alter its meaning, especially to someone who does not believe that one exists. While I am not completely opposed to altering another person's comments (provided it is only to improve readability) I do think that altering someone's desired meaning is a terrible act. In general I would say altering someone else's comments should be prohibited because of the problems it can cause. LordBiro 21:21, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * XD, even Guild Wars capitalizes Balthazar, Dwayna, Grenth, etc. This is because it's formal because they're Gods.-- §  Eloc   §  21:42, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * This is obviously because that are names.. poke | talk 21:44, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Yea, and God is a name too... FYI, instead of because that are names, it should be those are names. I could barely understand what you meant. --- Raptors
 * It can be a common noun and proper noun (wiktionary: god, God) and changing between the two can change the meaning like LordBiro said above. -Smurf 23:21, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * You obviously have no idea whats going on. --- Raptors
 * Considering it was my comment that was edited does anyone want to ask me what it was I intended? Considering I am an atheist and do not believe in a god or gods as such. -- Lemming [[Image:User Lemming64 sigicon.png]] 00:25, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * No, I don't think anyone cares. --- Raptors
 * Then why did you change it? You either care or you don't, you can't have it both ways... -- Lemming [[Image:User Lemming64 sigicon.png]] 00:45, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, I cared about the misspelling of God, I just don't care about your life story of how you're an atheist and why you spelled it (imagine a lowercase G)od instead of God... --- Raptors
 * I'd hardly call it a life story, but each to his own. -- Lemming [[Image:User Lemming64 sigicon.png]] 01:31, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, this is getting out of hand it seems. Ok, all beliefs aside, the word "God", should be capitalized because it is a proper noun and proper nouns need to be capitalized.-- §  Eloc   §  05:55, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * It's nice that after all this discussion you can come to a compromise. LordBiro 06:59, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * It can be a common noun and proper noun (wiktionary: god, God) and changing between the two can change the meaning like LordBiro said above. -Smurf 23:21, 19 August 2007 (UTC) - B e X  [[Image:User BeXoR sig.gif|iawtc]] 07:11, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, God is a person or proper noun, and god is like a species.-- §  Eloc   §  07:44, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * How about I won't change anymore lowercase God to the correct spelling of God, and you all get out of my talk page? --- Raptors

Flashing message on your user page.
I have removed this as per this line "Material patently offensive to others" of GWW:USER. Your attitude towards others lately has left much to be desired and this is not helping the situation. -- Lemming 22:41, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I fixed it. I hope I didn't hurt your feelings with that bad word. Shame on me!!! --- Raptors
 * Abbreviating the same phrase doesn't make it any better. -- Lemming [[Image:User Lemming64 sigicon.png]] 23:55, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Would you rather have it as GTFO or get the fuck out? It seems that the former would be better. --- Raptors
 * I think I made it fairly clear that neither is acceptable. -- Lemming [[Image:User Lemming64 sigicon.png]] 00:00, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * There we go. I hope you like it better now. --- Raptors
 * I think Raptors' is allowed swears on his page because a little while back I asked if swearing was allowed and the answer was as long as it's not directed at someone else. Although, it's highly frowned upon.-- §  Eloc   §  04:09, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

The swear words aren't allowed because of this line in GWW:USER "Do not include any material generally deemed offensive and insulting." Swearing certainly falls under that criteria - Lemming has pointed out that he finds it offensive and I'm sure if others were aware of your user page they would say the same. So I would ask that Raptors removes it from his page, both for the sake of the policy breach, and to avoid stirring up further controversy. - B e X   04:21, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh ok, I didn't realize it violated GWW:USER.-- §  Eloc   §  04:24, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The current version of the policy is a bit hard to read imo. - B e X  [[Image:User BeXoR sig.gif|iawtc]] 04:26, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * So no swearing at all? --- Raptors

''It was the context not the swear words. --LemmingImage:User Lemming64 sigicon.png 10:21, 21 August 2007 (UTC)''


 * Swear words weren't the problem, I'm putting them back. --- Raptors
 * They are still breaching the user policy as I stated above. - B e X  [[Image:User BeXoR sig.gif|iawtc]] 10:31, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Just because swear words were not direct the problem of the original policy violation, pointless swear words can be taken as breaking the section of the policy that bex has pointed out as generally deemed offensive and insulting. If requested to removed something by another user who deems it obviously offensive it seems prudent to do so -- Lemming [[Image:User Lemming64 sigicon.png]] 10:35, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Sailors wouldn't find it offensive, so its all about opinion. Who knows if everybody would be offended by it, not just some. --- Raptors
 * The point is that swearing is commonly found offensive, and that is reason enough for it to be removed according to the policy. - B e X  [[Image:User BeXoR sig.gif|iawtc]] 10:44, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't find it offensive, it should stay.Sailors 10:58, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * It is a breach of policy and should be removed. If you don't make this change yourself Raptors then I will. - B e X  [[Image:User BeXoR sig.gif|iawtc]] 11:03, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Two find it offensive, three don't. We win. You can't change it without breaking the rules of the game. --- Raptors
 * Not that it is down to a vote, but I don't think whoever Sailors is, some randomly created account to just comment on this article counts. -- Lemming [[Image:User Lemming64 sigicon.png]] 11:08, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Every user on this wiki is equally as important as the other. --- Raptors
 * Not when it's a Sock Puppet -- Scourge  [[Image:User Scourge Spade.gif]] 11:13, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Got any hard evidence? If not then GTFO. --- Raptors
 * BeXoR: there is no profanity censoring on this wiki, you're misinterpreting the policy. If it's not insulting or directly offensive to anyone, it's fine to stay. There will always be people overly sensitive to an issue or another. Someone may get offended by the "don't be a dick" on my userpage, someone else may get offended by the content of Kurd's userpage, someone else may get offended by the stuff on Auron's quotes page, someone else may get offended by a "Tea sucks, coffee rocks" statement. The criteria isn't "does anyone find this offensive?", because there'll always be someone who gets offended by something (you even have to think twice before opening the door for someone these days, as she may be a feminist who finds that action offensive and belittling). In my personal opinion, even if probably very immature, the words on Raptor's page now are not insulting to anyone in particular, and should stay. If you want to ban all "bad" words wiki-wide, then start a discussion about it somewhere. --Dirigible 11:17, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * <3 You're my new best friend. --- Raptors
 * Dirigible I totally disagree and I believe you are the one misinterpreting the policy. I quoted a section of the policy above, and as I said swearing is something that is generally found offensive, especially considering the audience of this game. Consider that swearing is censored on television whether it is directed at a person or not. This is not a minor disagreement between likes or dislikes. Swearing is socially interpreted as being vulgar, rude and offensive. And there is questionable intent behind the notice on this page. If someone is offended by material on your user page, or if it is something that is generally found offensive it should be removed and the user policy supports that. - B e X  [[Image:User BeXoR sig.gif|iawtc]] 11:48, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree with Dirigible. Stop doing things for the sake of it imo. &mdash; Skuld 11:59, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * If that's how you interpret my intent then so be it, but that is not why I am saying these things. - B e X  [[Image:User BeXoR sig.gif|iawtc]] 12:02, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Using profanities may be vulgar and rude, but that doesn't mean its offensive. Not in my social circles, at least; it's not offensive to my family, friends, coworkers, guild mates, or even uni professors. It's not even offensive to you personally, judging from IRC. It's not offensive to any 14 year old I've ever met (that's the minimum age to play GW, if I recall correctly), even though it may drive their overprotective mothers in tilt, (I guess they think their kids don't know those words, that they never hear anyone online, in school, outside or elsewhere use such naughty words, and want to keep their minds and ears clean from such rubbish...). What I'm saying is that while these words may be vulgar or rude and immature, they are not offensive or insulting per se, even though many will take offense at them. If you are making the claim that bad words are always insulting and unacceptable, then it goes for the entire wiki and not just userpages (being allowed to swear in all namespaces except the User ones doesn't really make sense). So, maybe start a discussion about it somewhere, so the community can speak their thoughts?
 * As per "If someone is offended by material on your user page [...] it should be removed and the user policy supports that" <-- uhm? Can you give me a quote of the policy where it says that? By the way, I'm offended by that hateful statement on your userpage against those delicate and beautiful beings that God created and that we call ants, so please remove it. --Dirigible 13:03, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

My claim is simply that the user page policy states no offensive content and to abide by the RoC which apply to the Guild Wars websites and fansites and that the material on this user page falls under at least two points on these documents. The manner in which this material is is presented and the context behind it makes the content is offensive. Your social circle may not find swearing offensive, but culturally it is. And I imagine that if that comment was posted anywhere else, it would either be removed or the commenter would be asked not to use such language.

If the policy needs to be clarified then do so, but picking and choosing which sections of a policy to enforce because of your view on the subject is setting a bad example. The policies are there for a reason. - B e X   13:21, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

And the minimum age to play Guild Wars is 12.


 * And I imagine that if that comment was posted anywhere else, it would either be removed or the commenter would be asked not to use such language. - B e X  [[Image:User BeXoR sig.gif|iawtc]] 13:21, 21 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't quite get that. What are you trying to say?. I have special privileges? --- Raptors


 * I believe BeXoR is saying that there are many other sites, such as forums etc., upon which such comments would be removed. LordBiro 06:29, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

"Sailors wouldn't find it offensive, so its all about opinion. Who knows if everybody would be offended by it, not just some. --- Raptors"
 * "The point is that swearing is commonly found offensive, and that is reason enough for it to be removed according to the policy. - B e X  [[Image:User BeXoR sig.gif|iawtc]] 10:44, 21 August 2007 (UTC)"
 * "I don't find it offensive, it should stay.Sailors 10:58, 21 August 2007 (UTC)" OMG! That's priceless. It's going into my random quotes section.-- §  Eloc   §  22:55, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm not really sure I want to get into this particular conversation, but I'm more than a little surprised that no one's linked to this old conversation yet. MisterPepe talk 23:01, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Wow, I totally forgot about that discussion...and I started that old one ;P.-- §  Eloc   §  23:07, 22 August 2007 (UTC)


 * On the upside, that tag reminded me to finally get around to disabling the blink tag in my browser. Among the worst tags ever created for the internet. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 21:35, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah.. Blink and Marquee imho.. Random article found by google: http://www.mcli.dist.maricopa.edu/tut/tut17.html poke | talk 21:38, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

300
Take that crap off the list, please :) 220.101.63.109 10:37, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Why? It has blood, violence, and sex. Every straight guy in the world should like it. --- Raptors
 * All three of those, the movie screws up. And it's got a terrible storyline. 220.101.63.109 10:50, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * My cousin didn't like it either so I'll replace it just for you two. --- Raptors
 * How can 300 have a crappy storyline? No one wrote it, it was a real battle.-- §  Eloc   §  22:55, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Right, 300, historically accurate? and yes somebody did right it. Frank Miller did. -- Lemming [[Image:User Lemming64 sigicon.png]] 22:57, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * But it's based off of the Battle of Thermopylae.-- §  Eloc   §  23:08, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Doesn't mean that was what happened, It was about 2500 years ago. -- Lemming [[Image:User Lemming64 sigicon.png]] 23:11, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Ya, I know, but that's what it was based off of loosely. Sort of like Pearl Harbor (movie), I highly doubt the real Pearl Harbor had so much romance in it but that's what it's based off of.-- §  Eloc   §  23:16, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok to clarify my point, just because it is based on an actual event does not mean it can't have a rubbish story line because it is dramatised, the two are not mutually exclusive. -- Lemming [[Image:User Lemming64 sigicon.png]] 23:18, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Raptor hasn't complained about it yet ... but I can't help but wonder if he would prefer this discussion to be on one of your two talk pages rather than his. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 23:21, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * XD, well I saw it here so I thought it would be talked about here.-- §  Eloc   §  23:23, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Heh, I don't care if they argue about it here. That link to the nude guys was a bit much though o_0. --- Raptors
 * LoL, never noticed that :P.-- §  Eloc   §  23:44, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Link to Goatse
Please refrain from linking to such material. -- Scourge   07:58, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * What's the material?-- §  Eloc   §  08:14, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Um if you haven't heard of Goatse I don't want to be the one to explain it to you, I also strongly urge you not to search for it. -- Scourge  [[Image:User Scourge Spade.gif]] 08:15, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia might have an article for it?-- §  Eloc   §  08:39, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

The link you put on your user page, removed by Scourge, was in violation of the user policy. Linking it the way you did tricks users to click on a link they have no idea where it would lead. Please refrain from making such links and linking to such material. As the user policy explains, failure to adhere may result in a block. (As this was a perticulary offensive way of linking, I also think removing without making a note first was perfectly acceptable) - anja   11:06, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Straw that broke the camels back in my book, Tricking people to viewing material like this through the use of the wiki's messaging system is unacceptable. You have been blocked for one day. I hope this time allows you to reflect on your actions so that you will not repeat them. -- Lemming [[Image:User Lemming64 sigicon.png]] 11:28, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

In case you guys are wondering I found it on User:!'s page. --- Raptors

Blinking Message Change
I think you should change the message to "OMG CONTROVERSY!". That best sums up this watergate scandal doing on here.... hell even Gaile gray got caught in this... Counciler 20:07, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Well at least that wouldn't be against the GWW:USER Policy.
 * I re-removed the offensive content. The history Skuld was talking about was a link on his page that was not offensive (the Admin Ranks) and was inappropriately removed from his userpage. The blinking words in the black banner are clearly offensive and do not belong here. If you disagree discuss it on the Guild_Wars_Wiki_talk:No_profanity page or User_talk:Gaile_Gray/Offensive_content_discussion, but do not revert it back to a version with the offensive words. If the policy discussion results in the community deciding that Profanity is allowed then by all means use profanity. Until then it falls under the restricted content as defined by the GWW:USER Policy:
 * Do not include any material generally deemed offensive and insulting.
 * Material patently offensive to others, including ArenaNet's competitors.
 * Material in breach of the wiki's policies or the game's terms and conditions.
 * --Thor79•[[Image:User-thor79.png]]•Talk 22:28, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't see anything blinking =S.-- §  Eloc   §  00:17, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

You guys are letting this user to make us all look like fools. Everyone knows that the content is offensive, everone knows that he put it there on purpose. Those words are not part of anything reasonable, they are just random offensive words put as the most visible thing on the user page. Letting him put it back there and not banning him for this is like telling him that it's all ok and not harmful at all. Remember his past history of policy violations? He is just continuing on the same path and probably will just keep doing it since it's causing so much trouble. -- (gem / talk) 01:13, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not breaking any policies. If they make it where we cannot swear at all, I will certainly change it. Please Gem, lets not bring up the past, I have been banned for things I have done in the past and those things are over. --- Raptors
 * If you'd read GWW:USER it is very clear that those words are not allowed. The fact that you are defending the action of placing them on your user page shows that you either have no respect for the community, the wiki and other users or that you are trying to harm the community in some way. If you would respect us and wouldn't want to harm us you would have removed those words from your user page because so many users are against them. I guess you understand that they don't do any good to anyone. Why not remove them if someone thinks they are harmful and they don't add anything good to your user page? I just can't think of any reason to keep them on your user page. -- [[Image:User Gem sig.png|Gem]] (gem / talk) 01:21, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I think you missed the above discussion where we decided it is breaking no rules. So no, it is not clearly breaking policy. --- Raptors
 * It is breaking this rule "You may not use sexually explicit, harmful, threatening, abusive, defamatory, obscene, hateful, or racially or ethnically offensive language." - B e X  [[Image:User BeXoR sig.gif|iawtc]] 01:29, 16 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, this is one of the very rare cases where I give shit about the 'consensus' on this matter. Those words are clearly offensive to any sensible human being that I know irl. I don't know what kind of environments the rest of the wiki users are from, but it seems that either they have grown in a very different world than I, or they have other weird reasons to think otherwise. I bet you know that those words offend many users and I bet you know that your admin ranking does also offend some people. I don't give a fuck about the thoughts of those defending you, and I do remember the past when your current actions clearly show that your continuing on the same lines.
 * I hope you come to your senses and do the best thing when considering this wiki and the community and remove those words. Note that I never use words like that when writing stuff to the internet and the above text is using them only because I think it fits this very laughable and idiotic situation that the wiki has run into. -- [[Image:User Gem sig.png|Gem]] (gem / talk) 01:33, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah, I'd never be this undiplomatic as an admin. It's really fun not to be one so I don't have to be a 'role model' for other wiki users like admins are asked to be. :D -- [[Image:User Gem sig.png|Gem]] (gem / talk) 01:35, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I think you missed the part at the bottom of the admin rank page where I said in bold, in all caps, THIS IS JUST A JOKE. Not one person has said they were offended by it. --- Raptors
 * See User talk:Santax. -- [[Image:User Gem sig.png|Gem]] (gem / talk) 01:47, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Gem...how can you take a person who says "Misunderstand" seriously O.o? I read the persons comments, and was like "You got to be shitting me". Readem   Hate Mail Goes Here  02:14, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

<3 I think I'll go to bed now. Sleep well! -- (gem / talk) 03:41, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Yea all these people were talking about arbitrating me from the community on irc and I'd like to avoid that, so I removed the crap. Happy now? --- Raptors


 * I'm glad that you have altered the message, Raptors. I'm not sure where the word "misunderstand" was used, but just for the record it is a word. Not particularly important, just wanted to clear that up. LordBiro 11:21, 16 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I was wondering about the 'misunderstand' thing too and decided not to reply. -- [[Image:User Gem sig.png|Gem]] (gem / talk) 12:12, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I didn't know what he was talking about either. --- Raptors
 * My bad, context lol "no i dont, you simply misunderstand." Readem   Hate Mail Goes Here  17:33, 16 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Hmmmm....I've read what I typed before and it makes sense. Admittedly i explained myself in a somewhat overly complicated manner. How about instead of making snide comments, you just ask me to explain the words you're having difficulty with readem? I'll help you sound out the meaning. Salome 05:03, 18 September 2007 (UTC)


 * That makes sense to me... Perhaps you're the one who misunderstands? LordBiro 18:27, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Signature
Your signature is breaking GWW:SIGN. Please read the second bullet point at GWW:SIGN and rectify the matter as soon as possible. Thank you. - B e X   01:31, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * OH NOEZ!!! I'll change it. --- Raptors
 * Thanks mister. - B e X  [[Image:User BeXoR sig.gif|iawtc]] 01:36, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * XD, it's only like 1 pixel off.-- §  Eloc   §  02:35, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * No, its cause I would have to upload my own version of the warrior shield instead of using the one already here. Not like its hurting anyone anyway, but still, policy is policy. --- Raptors

Reminder to self: Don't vandalize and try hard to keep being a dick.
LoL.-- §  Eloc   §  22:50, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Haha yea, my personal message. --- Raptors / RAAA!

NPA
One more breach of NPA and you will be on a time out, and it won't be 24 hours this time. -- Lemming 02:25, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Fix Auron's. --- Raptors / RAAA!
 * My comment is about your actions. Your comment was about me personally. There's a difference. - Auron 02:29, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh... and yes, I do wear them :) - Auron 02:29, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Very interesting. --- Raptors / RAAA!
 * I was not aware of Auron's page until you pointed it out, parts of it can be considered personal which I have removed, however my original statement stands about your actions on your page. -- Lemming [[Image:User Lemming64 sigicon.png]] 02:33, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Ohhh Lordy! Ima sorry' sir, Ima neva gonna break no more NPA rules, no way no how. --- Raptors / RAAA!

XD
XD, we'll all miss you, I'm sure of it! :P, anyways, ttyl in GW's.-- §  Eloc   §  20:31, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Please STOP
Please stop editing the page Raptor --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:The Warior Of Timi.
 * no u --- Raptors / RAAA!
 * Please stop the revert wars. - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 19:09, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * And please stop adding that trivia... poke | talk 19:11, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Your just jealous there's not an assassin skill named poke or something. --- Raptors / RAAA!
 * If you think it's legit trivia, ask Emily to confirm. Until then, it's pretty far-fetched to have in the article. - Tanetris 19:43, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Why hello Tanetris Kumori --- Raptors / RAAA!

yo
WB - elviondale  (tahlk) 03:58, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Haha its good to be back. --- Raptors / RAAA!
 * That lasted all of two weeks :P -- Lemming [[Image:User Lemming64 sigicon.png]] 19:42, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Yea things were getting a little too quiet for my liking so I decided to come back and spice things up :P --- Raptors / RAAA!
 * Seemed longer than 2 weeks for me =S, dang, I need to learn to keep track of time ;P.-- §  Eloc   §  21:35, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Things here were getting too quiet? How would you know unless YOU NEVER LEFT! - B e X  [[Image:User BeXoR sig.gif|iawtc]] 02:52, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Naw, he asks me on occassion ingame how the wiki is going.-- §  Eloc   §  04:40, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * You could have made up some really exciting stories. :/ - B e X  [[Image:User BeXoR sig.gif|iawtc]] 07:45, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Like the time my aunt fought Frankenstein and Hulk Hogan in a steel cage match? Now THAT was an exciting story! --- Raptors / RAAA!
 * !0.0! - elviondale  (tahlk) 22:39, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Running
LOL Unless its in the Shiverpeaks, my ranger runs everything for my guild. - elviondale  (tahlk) 22:46, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Yea right now I only have one other person in my guild and he was offline, and my other friend was offline too, so I had to get a runner...what a disaster... --- Raptors / RAAA!
 * Getting an all desert tour right now and its actually going very well. --- Raptors / RAAA!

Muffins ftw - elviondale  (tahlk) 02:11, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes! Another muffins fan! Shoes is still pretty good too, but Muffins and Hard Hitting Questions are my favs. --- Raptors / RAAA!

Sigh..
I moved it elsewhere mate. &mdash; Skuld 20:59, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * bite me --- Raptors / RAAA!
 * /me takes a bite from raptor's jugular vein &mdash; Skuld 21:32, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * What now?-- §  Eloc   §  23:34, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Heh nothing no worries. --- Raptors / RAAA!

queers
add some parameters to the search, it took me to User:Smurf/myskin.css. - Auron 00:06, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I have absolutely no idea how to do that, I'm a wiki noob still. --- Raptors / RAAAAAAAAAA!
 * I don't either, that's the problem... lulz. - Auron 00:16, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * lol --- Raptors / RAAAAAAAAAA!
 * I got J.Kougar. What are the odds?-- §  Eloc   §  13:57, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Funny, nothing happened for me when I clicked it... -- Lemming [[Image:User Lemming64 sigicon.png]] 06:25, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
 * No?-- §  Eloc   §  07:11, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Lemming don't lie, it probably took you to your own userpage, didn't it? --- Raptors / RAAAAAAAAAA!

GR8 SHAG build
If anyone has any advice or knows how to make it lined up more towards the center top of the page instead of the left top of the page, I would greatly appreciate it if you could let me know. Thanks. --- Raptors / RAAAAAAAAAA!
 * Use   Fall 03:21, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you!!! <3 --- Raptors / RAAAAAAAAAA!
 * Anytime :) Fall 03:32, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

<3 that skill bar ;) -- ab.er. rant  05:51, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Ha thanks ^^ --- Raptors / RAAAAAAAAAA!

Welcome
Hello, Raptors, and welcome to the Official Guild Wars Wiki! If you need help with anything, don't hesitate to add a message to my talk page. I highly recommend that you check out the "Welcome to the wiki" page - it's extremely useful as an initial guide. Best of luck and happy editing! --67.159.45.93 14:04, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you! --- Raptors / RAAAAAAAAAA!
 * For the record, that wasn't me ^_^. Although I must admit I like the humour. --BlueNovember 14:36, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * XD.-- §  Eloc   §  17:45, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Aww comon
Do we really want to get into that again? - elviondale  (tahlk) 00:26, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
 * This is me politely asking you to remove your banner. - elviondale  (tahlk) 02:04, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

What's going on here...
About 3 months ago, me and my buddy made up the raptor thing here. As some of you may recall, we were quite a nuisance. Getting different IP's, and making user names left and right just to upset people. And now.... What's this?! An impostor??!! I don't like this.... Not at all... This guy who is parading around as "Raptors" is NOT the original. CLEARLY not the original. He/she is seen backing down several times, as well as submitting and trying to get along with you WikiPeople. He/she is clearly an impostor, and I want to make sure some of you still appreciate the ORIGINAL WikiRaptors. And I can prove it..... Would the impostor... Remeber to do this at the end of the message? Cookies R Gewd Butt Nawt As Gewd As Kake!! RAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! --- TheTrueRaptors
 * Ok...-- §  Eloc   §  04:21, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Deleting all pages
All your pages have been marked for deletion. Since they are considered user requests, speedy deletion applies. But I just want to double-check and confirm. -- ab.er. rant  09:26, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
 * He's blocked at the moment isn't he? - B e X  [[Image:User BeXoR sig.gif|iawtc]] 09:27, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Great. Oh well. I'll just leave it and see what he's up to. -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png|sig]] 10:09, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Ya, 2 Month block I believe it is this time.-- §  Eloc   § 
 * 2 week block. -- scourge  02:05, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, but why not delete his User page. He is allowed to mark it for deletion, no policy against that.-- §  Eloc   §  02:32, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Ab.er.rant wanted to double check that the Raptors really wanted all the pages deleted. Hence: "But I just want to double-check and confirm" -- scourge  02:35, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I know him ingame (on my friends list), and he says he does want his pages deleted. If you need more proof than that, I'll get a pic of him saying it to me next time he's online.-- §  Eloc   §  03:39, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * But his userpage doesn't seem to say that he's in your guild... yea, sure it's just technicality, so this will get deleted soon if nothing else happens to prevent deletion. -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png|sig]] 03:57, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Don't apply to talkpages tho'. Backsword 04:05, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Aberrant, he isn't in my Guild. He was for a little while but we still talk on occassion. He asks the odd question about the Wiki to me.-- §  Eloc   §  04:23, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Oops, right, misread that. -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png|sig]] 14:30, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I blocked out his username at his request but this shows his reasons for wanting to delete his user/talk page and that he has left.-- §  Eloc   §  04:44, 1 November 2007 (UTC) Had to remove image as requested by Raptors.-- §   Eloc   §  04:57, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Hiya raptors, you're awsome --Cursed Angel 02:14, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ya man, everyone here loves you. You should totally run for bureaucrat someday lol-- §  Eloc   §  02:21, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * inorite? --- Raptors / RAAAAAAAAAA!
 * Back again? Wow, you've had more comebacks than Rocky Balboa... than Frank Sinatra... than John Travolta... - elviondale  (tahlk) 06:07, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Welcome back :P Could you please add the timestamp when signing comments? It's a bit confusing to see you posting but not knowing when this was. Thanks ;) poke | talk 12:43, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Good luck. I mentioned it to him before. -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png|sig]] 13:47, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I doubt you'll get him to add the time stamp. He says he likes  better-- §   Eloc   §  15:02, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Maybe just doesn't want to wear out the ~ key - elviondale  (tahlk) 18:05, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * If I added 3 I'd be just like everyone else. I wanna be unique. --- Raptors / RAAAAAAAAAA!
 * Everyone else adds 4. :P - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 21:21, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm dumb, stupid typo. bleh --- Raptors / RAAAAAAAAAA!
 * Ok, then I wanna be unique, too 21:25, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Fun isn't it? --- Raptors / RAAAAAAAAAA!
 * yarly 21:28, 7 November 2007 (UTC)21:28, 7 November 2007 (UTC)21:28, 7 November 2007 (UTC)21:28, 7 November 2007 (UTC)- elviondale  (tahlk) 21:28, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Dang  ;P-- §   Eloc   §  03:58, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * sieg heil raptors --Cursed Angel 00:58, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * sieg heil indeed Cursed Angel. --- Raptors / RAAAAAAAAAA!
 * LoL, when I saw that I almost pissed my pants laughing! &mdash;  ク  Eloc  貢  01:26, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * why,why,why do you people keep giving me stupid automated welcomes!?!!??!?!?--Ryudo 02:45, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * that made me laugh as hell :D keep up the good work raptors.--Cursed Angel 02:55, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Hahahah.. it took me a minute to figure that out.. Wow. Someone has too much time on their hands. - elviondale  (tahlk) 16:57, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

"welcome"
If someone has made it clear that they do not wish to have an automated welcome template dumped on their page, please respect that decision. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 02:57, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm trying to be nice and welcome people for a change. --- Raptors / RAAAAAAAAAA!
 * Lying is bad for the soul. - B e X  [[Image:User BeXoR sig.gif|iawtc]] 03:00, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I hear chicken noodle soup is good for it though. --- Raptors / RAAAAAAAAAA!
 * I'm really confused. If his automated welcome template goes on their page it is already there.... How can they express their desire to not have it if it has already been placed? This really doesn't make sense....Dancing Gnome 22:44, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Think about what you just said, does Raptors ever really make sense? &mdash;  ク  Eloc  貢  22:48, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

...that movie you linked... i loled tbh - Y0_ ich_halt  21:04, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Helper
You, a helper? You're not a helper, you're a troll helper! ;) - anja   11:03, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Trolls need help sometimes too! --- Raptors / RAAAAAAAAAA!
 * Of course :) - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 17:31, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I expected more from a sysop, (I didn't really but that doesn't have the same effect). I guess assume good faith only applies to edits and not his intentions with his presence on the wiki. I guess it's ok for Thulsey to give me a message because you and the other "in crowd" haven't shown a prior conflict with him but when Raptors does it we create a whole new policy. Dancing Gnome 22:50, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * ? I didn't get your point :/ - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 22:53, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * See the smilie behind Anjas message and think about it. -- [[Image:User Gem sig.png|Gem]] (gem / talk) 23:01, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * YM smiles. &mdash; Skuld 23:13, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * feed teh trolls --Cursed Angel 23:14, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I must have missed the last "in crowd" meeting, because I am confused. -- Lemming [[Image:User Lemming64 sigicon.png]] 00:05, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * DG was critisizing the original post by Anja. I understand why although I think Anja wasn't too serious due to the smilie. -- [[Image:User Gem sig.png|Gem]] (gem / talk) 00:09, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * New word - Raptors is a Trollper ^^  Snog  rat [[Image:User Snograt signature.png]] 22:54, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * that sounds like an illness to me... - Y0_ ich_halt  [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 23:07, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * that sounds like Mirrored Stance.. or wait, no it doesn't --Cursed Angel 23:54, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Ban raptors, you idiots. &mdash; Skakid9090 01:33, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * He's won the wiki. People like Erasculio are right, powerful sysops are definitely evil by default and would not have prevented this from happening. - Auron 01:34, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Skakid you <3 me, don't deny it. --- Raptors / RAAAAAAAAAA!
 * yeh but you're a dickhead and deserve to be banned ;) &mdash; Skakid9090 01:45, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * If I wanted to I could make a whole new account and be a great guy and make people like me. Seemed to work with you earlier. I choose to be a dickhead, I'm glad you think I am! Nicest thing on my current talk page imo. --- Raptors / RAAAAAAAAAA!
 * Warning! Potential evil dictators are watching you! ;) I'm starting to wonder if you really do have a nicer account... -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png|sig]] 03:16, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Leaving
Good. Don't come back and take your fail with you. -- scourge  02:04, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I was gonna leave for a while but with all this juicy stuff going on I can't. --- Raptors / RAAAAAAAAAA!
 * Way too many retards to troll mirite Raptors? :P - Auron 02:12, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Someone has to do it, ill miss u raptors :_( --Cursed Angel 18:01, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * He's not going to leave Cursed. Don't cry, lol. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  貢  00:02, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * He'll leave when he wants to, by his own accord. He has more sock puppets than PBS, I think. Well, Raptors, this could be interesting.  Calor  - talk 00:05, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * XD, that made me laugh. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  貢  00:21, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * PBS comment = ftw! 58.106.236.226 07:39, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

*chan
I've never seen someone so publically affected by a *chan like you. Cool. Vael Victus 15:18, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * What is *chan? Anon

Arbitration case
You have been temporarily unblocked so that you can partecipate in your arbitration case. The only page you are allowed to edit is Guild Wars Wiki talk:Arbitration committee/2007-11-15-User:Raptors; everything else is going to get reverted immediately, regardless of how harmless or innocent it may be. And if you insist on trying to post outside of that arbitration page, you'll simply get blocked again. Cheers. --Dirigible 10:48, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * this is why what you wrote got removed and skulds message wasnt. --Cursed Angel [[Image:User_Cursed_Angel_Signature.jpg|19px|talk]] 02:34, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Gotcha, thanks Cursed Angel. --- Raptors / RAAAAAAAAAA!

Welcome
''Troll messages removed. --- Raptors / RAAAAAAAAAA!''

Woot! making a point here...reanor 01:24, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * [[Image:User-Cursed Angel Mirrored Stance.jpg|25px]] Mirrored Stance on you --Cursed Angel [[Image:User_Cursed_Angel_Signature.jpg|19px|talk]] 02:07, 27 November 2007 (UTC)