User talk:Daññy

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Btw, furst. Karate  Jesus  20:01, 8 January 2010  (UTC)
 * What a fucking huge wall of NPA X treme 12:38, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

NPA
Yes, yes it is NPA. Unless you're referring to a bundle of sticks, which you are not, addressing someone as "faggot" falls into the category of NPA. Keep it up and you'll be blocked for a while. calor  (talk)  05:25, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * How is it NPA if it doesn't offend the user(s) it is directed at? ···  Danny  Pew   Pew  19:12, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Who said the person had to be offended for it to be considered a breach of the NPA? 118.93.45.67 19:48, 14 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Why care if they're not offended? Enforcing policy for the sake of policy is bad. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 19:53, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not going to touch your comment with a 40 foot pole. But, just know you made me lol.  118.93.45.67 19:54, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Common sense and policy work together? LOLOLOL. Karate [[File:User Karate Jesus KJ for sig.png]] Jesus  19:56, 14 January 2010  (UTC)
 * I take it you disagree, 118? So we should go make a bunch of random contradictory policies and enforce them all just because they're policies? Is that how I should interpret this? -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 19:58, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I forgot to log in. I honestly don't care either way; the entertainment level of this page is making my bowl of cereal far more invigorating than normal.  As for the matter at hand, it's beneath me on either account to take seriously so, as above, the entertainment level of this page is making my bowl of cereal far more invigorating than normal.  000.00.00.00  20:07, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Whether Chaos feels offended or not is just one small issue. When viewed in a larger perspective, it should not become a norm to fling around foul language on a wiki, whose main purpose is to be informative for GW players. And that includes talk pages.  Koda  [[Image:User_Koda_Kumi_UT.jpeg‎|19px]]  Kumi  20:47, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Go ahead and try both defining "foul" language and justifying why it shouldn't be used. I could use a laugh. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 21:50, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm with Armond on this one. As far as I'm concerned, "fuck" is just another sexual act. ···  Danny  Pew   Pew  21:59, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The wiki is about documenting the game, and I am glad some people are still serious about it. Sounding as professional and mature as possible is the better thing to do. I don't want to be in a wiki where trolling, calling each others 'faggots' or 'retards' is the norm; it sounds immature, it's not funny, it drives potential editors away from such a seemingly 'hostile' environment because god knows who's going to be attacked next. It's not my intention to lecture anyone, I just honestly believe the community benefits from a stricter enforcement of NPA, as 'carebear' as I may sound. I am aware I have no rights to judge anyone's actions, but I am sure I have the right to state what I am not willing to tolerate as a member of a given community. Those who believe 'foul language' is fine, whatever the definition of it is, go around testing at your job or university - you'll soon find out what is appropriate and what is not. -- [[Image:User Sensei sensei-sig.png|19px ]]Sensei | talk 18:32, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I used the word "fuck" while describing how a chapter in the biblical book of Ezekiel (and one in Enoch, which is pseudepigraphal not biblical) directly correlated with the way in which mobile media affects pre-teens. If I remember correctly, that thesis was both published and earned me a scholarship. However, apparently that language is just terrible. Karate [[File:User Karate Jesus KJ for sig.png]] Jesus  18:38, 15 January 2010  (UTC)
 * Exceptions are exceptions, context is context. The norm, however, usually tells to avoid certain words or behaviors - my point is to support the argument where a personal attack doesn't need to be taken as offense directly to be considered an NPA violation - other editors can be indirectly offended, too. No one cares about other people's 'internal jokes' or have any obligation to 'know the catch'; those who want to use such terms should take it to a private messenger. -- [[Image:User Sensei sensei-sig.png|19px ]]Sensei | talk 18:55, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * If a person is "indirectly offended" by another person's comment, then simply by definition that is not a "personal" attack. If people would like content edited for their poor, virgin eyes, then they probably shouldn't be using a wiki...which has no age or content restriction (short of the minutia of what's expressed in policy). Karate [[File:User Karate Jesus KJ for sig.png]] Jesus  19:02, 15 January 2010  (UTC)
 * Welcome to the internet. You must be new here. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 19:07, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * @KJ: What I mean is that even if an editor is not offended, it doesn't mean it is acceptable by the rest of the community. For example, general usage of the word 'faggot'. But now I'm just repeating myself over - excuse my bad english and congrats on that thesis (honest, forgot to post up there). :)-- [[Image:User Sensei sensei-sig.png|19px ]]Sensei | talk 19:20, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * That thesis was several years ago, but thanks I guess. And obviously I agree with you that any word that discriminates doesn't have a place on the wiki (that's why I pointed out the use of the word "retard" earlier). However, "foul" language, I think should be ok on user talk pages. Again....as long as it doesn't discriminate. Karate [[File:User Karate Jesus KJ for sig.png]] Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">19:32, 15 January 2010  (UTC)
 * When did swear words become a personal attack....comedians must be complete bastards<font color="#b22222"> X treme 20:30, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Breach of GWW:NPA
^ Your comment is in breach of GWW:NPA. As the first line in GWW:NPA states, "Comment on content, not on the contributor." Calling people "faggots" as you have is commenting on the contributors. Furthermore, saying someone is retarded if they think it's a breach of GWW:NPA is also in breach of it. You're calling someone retarded based on their actions, not calling their actions retarded. Please don't do it again. Thanks.<font color="Black"> --  <font color="#0104C6">Lacky 05:26, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * wot, i thought people on gww weren't carebears anymore? MAFARAXAS 05:30, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * LOL the one comment I saw was FACT not an insult. Learn to interpret policies better.  Hmmm I have a bad feeling about this.<font color="#b22222"> X treme  11:21, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Regardless of whether it's a fact or not, the policy is designed to stop personal attacks. Danny calling Chaos a faggot, for instance, is akin to negro rappers calling each other "nigger". If Danny was more eloquent, he would have put it that way instead of calling the overzealous policy criers "retarded" but, alas, he is only a pretty face. Mr J 11:29, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Explain something to me then...how can it be a PERSONAL Attack when the person he directed it to didn't take it PERSONAL? Unless of course Lacky took it personal meaning he must be comming out of the closet....or on the fence in any event.<font color="#b22222"> X treme  12:06, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * My explanation is that you misunderstood. It simply wasn't an attack. Mr J 12:20, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The fact of a person being not offended by it is irrelevant.<font color="Black"> -- [[Image:User_Lacky_Blue_Paw_Sig.png|15px|link=User_talk:Lacky|My Talk]] <font color="#0104C6">Lacky 13:10, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * How so? We aren't allowed to call a black man black?  Or a bad player a bad player.  That makes no sense.  You will be banning until the cows come home on that logic then there will be no one left.  Funny thing is I don't think Danny really cares.  However the point is still valid.  Be more careful on following the "rules".  And at Mr.J...sorry you are right "my bad"<font color="#b22222"> X treme  13:13, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Well it also states "referring to other editors is not always a personal attack" and you of all people being a sysop should know this. Being a policy hore dosen't fit you well.  Just revert the ban and I will assume good faith in you again.  BTW this is a principal thing not a personal one.  You know the difference?<font color="#b22222"> X treme  13:32, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Lacky is not a sysop.
 * Daññy is currently not banned.
 * No one in this section has been banned.
 * In other words, WTF? Erasculio  13:36, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not a sysop Xtreme, and I haven't (and can't) ban anybody. And yes, I do understand the difference. I'm not a "policy whore", I am just trying to keep the wiki stable and from being disrupted, which this conversation is slowly turning into, so I shall just leave it at this. Danny breached policy and has been notified by me and a sysop. As I would understand it, since a Sysop did warn him, he obviously did do something wrong. End of discussion.<font color="Black"> -- [[Image:User_Lacky_Blue_Paw_Sig.png|15px|link=User_talk:Lacky|My Talk]] <font color="#0104C6">Lacky 13:45, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Eras is correct on all accounts, so Xtreme, your accusations are not warranted. Also, in your quoting of policy, you seemed to have used a part of the sentence without reading it in its entirety, i.e. when there are disagreements about content, referring to other editors is not always a personal attack. Do not take a part of a sentence and use it out of context in order to try and solidify your case. Please understand policy before quoting it, like editors are strongly discouraged from using profanity in comments to other contributors, which does encompass Danny calling Chaos a faggot. Finally, do not make personal attacks as well, such as calling Lacky a "policy hore". Oh, and you mispelled hore, it's whore. &mdash; Gares 13:52, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Lacky, I signed with "Chaos is gay" on PvX for a while, and it's a running joke. Calling me a faggot in that context just makes me laugh, and Danny, as well as most people here, are aware of that. I appreciate your concern, but his comment was pure humor. Even if it isn't a reference to me being gay, it is a winning reference about the autism on PvX...... Why the hell am I being so polite? :> -- -Chaos- (moo) -- 13:59, 14 January 2010 (UTC) What you did on PvX or anywhere else really doesn't matter. Statements like that are a violation of GWW policy. It doesn't require the person it's directed at to be offended, if it is perceived by anyone in the community as a violation, it pretty much IS a violation. Please keep your personal jokes between yourselves in personal/private messages, or in places (like PvX) where it is not a breach of community policy. Thanks. -- Wyn  talk  14:54, 14 January 2010 (UTC) . That is where you have it wrong Xtreme. Talk pages belong to the entire community. Any member of the community is welcome to comment on them, or monitor them. They don't have to "be involved" to cite a policy breach, and they don't have to be an admin to notify/warn a user of a policy breach. -- Wyn  talk  16:04, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay then....PS sticky W<font color="#b22222"> X treme 14:12, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * (EC) "Policy Whore" is actually a breach of NPA as Xtreme is using your personal traits (whether they be truthful or not doesn't matter) as a reason for why your point of view in a discussion is incorrect. Danny calling 3 people whom he is friendly with "faggots" in a discussion which can at best be described as circle-jerking is not an NPA violation. As for an admin warning him, remember that calor is human (afaik) which means he is not flawless in his discretionary judgement. He is within his rights to ask Danny to refrain from that behaviour, but whether he is correct that it is an NPA breach or not is another matter. Danny (and other users) are within their right to calmly and logically discuss how or if it is a breach of NPA and should strive to do so for the improvement of policies and their enforcement. If they're capable, that is. Calling people retarded and living in your own fantasy world (wtf Xtreme?) aren't exactly constructive means, though. Mr J 14:17, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * An addendum because I've just had the chance to read Gares' comment. My understanding of the spirit of NPA is that editors should encourage constructive discussions and not try to "win" them by with intimidation or ad hominem arguments. Admins however have the discretion to ask users to refrain from whatever behaviour they decide is unacceptable, so the discussion about whether it's NPA or not is purely academic. Mr J 14:38, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * For thouse who miss the point...he isn't an admin...he can't ban...he is wrong about policy....and I did take the policy out of context but the point is still valid.<font color="#b22222"> X treme 14:45, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * "I signed with "Chaos is gay" on PvX for a while, and it's a running joke. Calling me a faggot in that context just makes me laugh, and Danny, as well as most people here, are aware of that."
 * His "breach" of NPA falls under "Racial, sexual, homophobic, ageist, religious, political, or ethnic epithets directed against another contributor."
 * I see that that which he said was not directed against me, or anyone else, and was obviously a joke. -- -Chaos- (moo) -- 15:05, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Mr. J, I'll agree with you on almost all accounts, however, NPA doesn't explicitly factor in the possibility of friendly banter just for one good reason...name-calling is name-calling regardless of the situation. However, there is a gray area, but that is where discretion comes into play. It is a courtesy and in good faith for us as admins to ask to a user to refrain from such behavior, but as stated before, we also have the discretion to act if we see fit, albeit, it should be done fairly, with just cause, and without any bias.
 * Xtreme, users can ask for others to refrain from such behavior, regardless of whether Lacky can ban or not is a moot point. &mdash; Gares 15:02, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I think it gives some room for banter in that it states what types of behaviour are explicit examples of what it not acceptable (even though it states those listed are not exhaustive) but it merely states that users are strongly discouraged from casually using profanity. The reason for that clause of the policy is because they can be intimidating to some types of people and since all profane words are superfluous in the English vocabulary there is no loss in discouraging their use. We agree on the gray area covered by discretion and that was what I was trying to get across at the end of my addendum; even if it isn't NPA, Calor (presumably made an admin because a majority of users trust his judgement) asked him not to do it and he is within his rights to take whatever action he deems appropriate if Danny ignores that warning. Mr J 15:20, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Gares the point is valid for it was between 2 people and if anyone should be involved is the ones in the banter. IF Chaos screamed NPA then I am fine with that...however when someone who isn't involved (besides admins) and shouldn't even have any say in NPA in that contribution.  My point was that Lacky isn't an admin and shouldn't be sticking his nose in where it dosen't belong.  His grey area in NPA is the problem here.<font color="#b22222"> X treme  15:33, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * He was an admin 2 hours ago. Mr J 15:44, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * "however when someone who isn't involved (besides admins) and shouldn't even have any say in NPA in that contribution."
 * I understand all that but he totally took it the wrong way (grey area)...man why is this so hard to understand....if that is the way things are done here....then fine....I will learn to ignore such events.<font color="#b22222"> X treme 16:36, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

I love how Gares manages to kick large amounts of ass even when I'm disagreeing with him. This whole thread seems to be an exercise in "letter of the policy vs spirit of the policy", which I had thought GWW's admins had gotten over years ago when we realized it doesn't work. -- Armond Warblade 17:06, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Mr J just violated NPA by calling me "nothing more than a pretty face," which could be read as "Danny is dumb." But, really, that's hardly NPA if I don't care about being called dumb. Also, Wyn, have you ever bothered to read Responding to personal attacks? If my cordial language with Chaos bothers you, just ignore it. We gays have every right to call each other faggots if we want. ···  Danny  Pew   Pew  19:11, 14 January 2010 (UTC) It's not just about them. In this case Lacky felt that Danny was being hostile towards a member of the community, because of his use of the word faggot which in general is considered a violation of the policy. The easiest way for this not to happen is for you all to keep your private jokes private, in IM or email or some such, rather than posting it on a community accessible page here. -- Wyn  talk  19:28, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but GWW:NPA is generally meant to be applied in cases which other users may feel as though another user is acting in a hostile manner towards them. ···  Danny  Pew   Pew  19:15, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * What I was saying below, put in a better way. -- -Chaos- (moo) -- 19:16, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Danny really is kinda cute. The face reminds me of a fellow from a series who turned out to be a murderer. Oh, and if anyone would actually read through the policy again, they'd conclude that nothing in what Danny said is against the policy, or even the spirit of the policy, which was drafted for completely different cases. -- -Chaos- (moo) -- 19:16, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * "...cases which other users may feel as though another user is acting in a hostile manner towards them."
 * I can't seem to find where you quote that from. And that text would seem to say, that it's NPA if I feel like Danny is being hostile against me, not when Lacky feels Danny is acting hostile against me. Carefully review the grammar, do you see what I see? -- -Chaos- (moo) -- 19:36, 14 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, if you use a PA to greet your buddy, you are kind of sowing confusion. And it was harvested at the start of this topic.  Koda  [[Image:User_Koda_Kumi_UT.jpeg‎|19px]]  Kumi  19:32, 14 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Ever since the PvX community merged into the GWW community (at least partially), the faggot jokes haven't really been private - they encompass a fair number of members of the community, all of whom feel that calling each other faggots is fine because none of them give a shit if they're called a faggot. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 19:34, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Feel free to call me a faggot. I really couldn't care less. <font color="Black" face="cambria">Karate [[File:User Karate Jesus KJ for sig.png]] <font color="Black" face="cambria">Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">19:43, 14 January 2010  (UTC)
 * KJ, you're a faggot, gtfo and produce beautiful Danny-like children with me. -- -Chaos- (moo) -- 19:45, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Things like "faggot" and other homophobic epithets have generally always been frowned upon on GWW. I dislike the casual personal-attacks-which-aren't-personal-attacks-if-you're-in-with-the-joke thing that PvX seems to have an abundance of, and I don't really want to see that here, either. It can be misinterpreted by other people, and lead to stuff just like this. If you want to integrate with the GWW community, it would be wise to follow its practices/advice and avoid stuff like "faggot"ing people. If I went to PvX, I'd feel comfortable faggoting the lot of you, cos that's what happens, and that's considered (I expect) the norm and acceptable to a degree. Here, though, no thanks. — pling 20:00, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Pling, I've seen plenty of inside jokes around here that could just as easily be misinterpreted. Now, none of them were as rash as calling someone a "faggot", but some of the easily offended people around here could have had the same reaction :/ <font color="Black" face="cambria">Karate [[File:User Karate Jesus KJ for sig.png]] <font color="Black" face="cambria">Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">20:15, 14 January 2010  (UTC)
 * Name one? [[Image:User_Felix_Omni_Signature.png]]elix Omni 20:18, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Several users were calling each other "retarded" for quite a while (not reason to name names). On top of that, it's common to allow people on this website to use the term "retard" or "retarded" or even "mentally handicapped" to describe comments or things that happen on this wiki. In my opinion, that should be much more offensive than the word "faggot". <font color="Black" face="cambria">Karate [[File:User Karate Jesus KJ for sig.png]] <font color="Black" face="cambria">Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">20:22, 14 January 2010  (UTC)
 * A mentally handicapped retraded faggot person human phd went by me as I was herding poro's with my ferrari. --  -Chaos- (moo) -- 20:30, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * This is so wrong...it is all about intent....if someone corrects my spelling and I take that to heart...then that is more NPA then calling Chaos a faggot. IT IS ALL ABOUT INTENT!!!  Something GWW lacks....judgement.<font color="#b22222"> X treme  20:48, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

In that situation you mentioned, KJ, if someone did get take offense, it would be just like this. With three admins here already involved here and stating not to do it, it's pretty clear that calling someone a faggot is not the best thing to do on GWW. Rules vary on different sites. I think we all know that. When a user participates on a site, they either follow the policies set for that site, or risk disciplinary action, e.g. see Chaos' status now. &mdash; Gares 20:49, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm confused about why that was directed at me, but I was just pointing out that there is a double standard around here. Calling someone "autistic" will earn you a ban, but calling them "retarded" wont. Calling someone a "faggot" will earn you a ban, but being vehemently passive aggressive wont. Just saying... <font color="Black" face="cambria">Karate [[File:User Karate Jesus KJ for sig.png]] <font color="Black" face="cambria">Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">20:55, 14 January 2010  (UTC)
 * I don't mind if people call me autistic. :3 [[Image:User_Felix_Omni_Signature.png]]elix Omni 20:58, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Haha, Felix. You know what I meant :D <font color="Black" face="cambria">Karate [[File:User Karate Jesus KJ for sig.png]] <font color="Black" face="cambria">Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">21:01, 14 January 2010  (UTC)

I've yet to see any good reasons for why "faggot" is an offensive term in and of itself. "Stupid" or "gay" are easily just as offensive. I certainly could restrict my actions to making negative statements on IRC, but I see very little difference in a case where I am not attempting to intimidate another user. If I had been attempting to intimidate or be generally hostile towards Chaos or any other user, I could clearly see the issue. However, one user involving himself in something that he or she does not need to involve him- or herself, particularly when those actions don't coincide with any possible interpretation of the resolution portion of NPA. If it is undesirable for users to view these comments, don't travel into the user talk spaces of users who do not mind such language. ···  Danny  Pew   Pew  21:48, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * "I certainly could restrict my actions to making negative statements on IRC, but I see very little difference in a case where I am not attempting to intimidate another user."


 * Oh snap! I lol'd. <font color="Black" face="cambria">Karate [[File:User Karate Jesus KJ for sig.png]] <font color="Black" face="cambria">Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">21:50, 14 January 2010  (UTC)
 * mmm smells like it's time for some tasty troll nuffins--TahiriVeila 21:55, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Damnit, Jake, "nuffins" isn't going to be a meme again no matter how hard you push it :/ <font color="Black" face="cambria">Karate [[File:User Karate Jesus KJ for sig.png]] <font color="Black" face="cambria">Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">21:56, 14 January 2010  (UTC)
 * It's oldschool kettemoor though :( --TahiriVeila 21:56, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * KJ, way above I think you misunderstood me, only the first sentence was thrown your way. Retard, faggot, gay, "he rides the short bus", w/e, it's all the same. I actually banned TahiriVeila for calling someone retarded. I don't discriminate. &mdash; Gares 00:25, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * What about the words "No offence". You are one pathetic loser....no offence (don't NPA me it is a quote from a movie...name it)<font color="#b22222"> X treme  17:51, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * No, Lloyd, I'm not going to ban you for your example. Usually "No offence" comes before something NPAish just to soften the blow, for example, if someone said: "No offense, but you are a complete and utter moron." Regardless of the "No offense", the NPA is there. &mdash; Gares 20:27, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Am I still allowed to use "stupid" as a descriptor, then? I mean, if I can't use faggot, cunt, fuck, shit, ass, nigger, or any one of the other numerous and various words that can be deemed offensive, I don't see why I'd be permitted to use a word that is easily just as offensive as retarded, autistic, or palsy-stricken. If that's the case, I'm perfectly alright with it as long as we make sure to start banning anyone who uses offensive language, regardless of context. ···  Danny  Pew   Pew  21:05, 15 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Tbh, Danny makes a very good point. I don't think the wiki can or should try to place "limits" on offensiveness - "this word is worse than that one, so you can say these but not those". It's all up to individual interpretation in the end, anyway. (Related: Dirigible is syphilis awesome.) -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 21:22, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * remember this? Vili &#x70B9; [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 02:00, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
 * oh danny, you stupid faggot cunt shit ass nigger retard autist <3 MAFARAXAS 02:13, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
 * maffles, if i could marry you without making many a woman very sad, i would do so. <3 ···  Danny  Pew   Pew  23:00, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Sorry
To have all of this retarded converstation on your talk page<font color="#b22222"> X treme 17:00, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * lol GWW. Also, hi Danny. -- <font color="#342EFF">Dee <font color="#00008B">Strongfist  19:17, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * /ave. ···  Danny  Pew   Pew  19:22, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * You sure are popular today. <font color="Black" face="cambria">Karate [[File:User Karate Jesus KJ for sig.png]] <font color="Black" face="cambria">Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">19:42, 14 January 2010  (UTC)
 * tl;dr. give me the sparknotes version so i can troll too--TahiriVeila 21:11, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Bad people are being bad about NPA. Something about how unoffensive shit is bad unless the in crowd OKs it. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 21:49, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * it is worth a read...lol<font color="#b22222"> X treme 01:12, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Timestamps
You know they're common practice here? - J.P. Talk </b> 07:39, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * i sign with three tildes on pvx, so i forget pretty often. you're welcome to fix any ones i miss. ···  Danny  Pew   Pew  09:00, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * since when can you sign with 3 tildes on pvx? And i always just hit the sig button anyway =\ --TahiriVeila 14:37, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * If you have a customized timestamp (like Danny and I), you only sign with 3 tildes. Otherwise, you end up with 2 timestamps like this ---> <font color="Black" face="cambria">Karate [[File:User Karate Jesus KJ for sig.png]] <font color="Black" face="cambria">Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">14:59, 31 March 2010  (UTC) 14:59, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The downside to this is that I can't be bothered using 4 tildes here, except when having a discussion about it, because I simply don't remember. Not to mention, timestamps are relatively pointless as long as you sign in the correct place. ···  Danny  Pew   Pew  13:37, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Not that I super-care, but timestamps are really a courtesy to other users, and making up false ones (like above) will probably just irritate people. [[Image:User_Felix_Omni_Signature.png]]elix Omni 18:49, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Tbh, Danny, you should have made it December 22, 2012. <font color="Black" face="cambria">Karate [[File:User Karate Jesus KJ for sig.png]] <font color="Black" face="cambria">Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">18:54, 31 March 2010  (UTC)
 * ups. i thought it was the 12th. i don't keep track of apocalyptic dates. ···  Danny  Pew   Pew 
 * Actually, it's the 21st. Which means I won't make 26 by just a day ): BlazeRick 05:36, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Ofc, because it's totally real and all...<font color="Black"> -- [[Image:User_Lacky_Blue_Paw_Sig.png|15px|link=User_talk:Lacky|My Talk]] <font color="#0104C6">Lacky 06:49, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * On a similar note, did you know that in the terms the Bible lays out, we are under constant threat of the anti-Christ? People have been claiming he is within their generation for countless decades. ···  Danny  Pew   Pew 
 * 'Course it's real. Repent now, before it is too late! BlazeRick 11:49, 11 April 2010 (UTC)


 * hey now, the mayans aren't ones to cry wolf. we gotta take this shit seriously until they call another date the apocalypse and that one doesn't happen either.  After that we can ignore anything the mayans, or their ancestors, have to say.  like base 20 math.  what the fuck is up with that? MAFARAXAS 05:40, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Cute heading...
What? ._.-- <font color="#990000"> ɹɐǝɟ ƃuıpuǝu  <font color="#800000">\ n \ 17:52, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Hit "edit". Says "Wikis LOVE ". ···  Danny   Pew   Pew 
 * Ah, would've never noticed had you not pointed it out <.<--User Unendingfear Avatar.png <font color="#990000"> ɹɐǝɟ ƃuıpuǝu  <font color="#800000">\ n \ 17:54, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Check the heading on your stalklist, too. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 21:25, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Hey Misery
I know you are having fun socking, but I need to speak with you on MSN. <3 --<font color="Black">Frosty  16:21, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Ban
You have been banned for continued disruption and trolling.


 * 1) Trying to disrail the discussion at User talk:Pling/Pruning by repeatedly asking about options that had already been dismissed, even after this was pointed out and trying to disrail other parts of the discussion
 * 2) http://wiki.guildwars.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Misery&diff=prev&oldid=1982009

Continued after warning:


 * 1) http://wiki.guildwars.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Misery&diff=prev&oldid=1982043
 * 2) http://wiki.guildwars.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Mis%D0%B5r%D1%83&diff=prev&oldid=1982074 --Xeeron 16:43, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
 * HAHAHAHA. I love the common sense around here. Ups. <font color="Black" face="cambria">Karate [[File:User Karate Jesus KJ for sig.png]] <font color="Black" face="cambria">Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">18:41, 13 April 2010  (UTC)
 * I've worked kids who have downs that make more sense than your reasoning there/posts you made on those pages--TahiriVeila 19:30, 13 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Really? Man, next you'll tell me I shouldn't have banned Rhys. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 19:45, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Comparing Danny to Rhys is pretty hilarious. Still....you have to admit....a month for "derailing" a talk page conversation that's basically about nothing is just strange. <font color="Black" face="cambria">Karate [[File:User Karate Jesus KJ for sig.png]] <font color="Black" face="cambria">Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">19:58, 13 April 2010  (UTC)
 * It's completely expected. He has a history, and judging from history, Xeeron's a fan of increasing block lengths by one mediawiki standard unit without regards to other circumstances. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:User Armond sig image.png]] 20:30, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Seems like walking on egg shells around here. Funny how things are viewed differently from site to site.<font color="#b22222"> X treme  12:56, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Danny,
It's OK, you can still be awesome on PvX. <33333 Iffy 96.231.229.227 01:13, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * You are so active of late....I love it<font color="#b22222"> X treme 10:03, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * And yah lrn to sign<font color="#b22222"> X treme 15:33, 20 July 2010 (UTC)