Help talk:Ask a game question/Archive1

Thank you so much for starting this, Gem. Good idea. - Thulsey   - talk 06:35, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Wow, I agree massively! I know it was primarily to divert game questions away from the "Ask a wiki question" page but still, this is my type of help page :) -- Snog  rat [[Image:User Snograt signature.png]] 08:05, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

"Click here to ask your question about Guild Wars" link
The link was not changed so every new sections were added to Help:Ask a wiki question instead. I fixed it and hope that there are less game-questions on Ask a wiki question ;) poke | talk 17:45, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
 * LOOOL. xDDDDDD My mistake. :D I was wondering what the hell was going on. :DD -- [[Image:User Gem sig.png|Gem]] (gem / talk) 19:14, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
 * hehe :P poke | talk 19:24, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
 * omg. thanks.  so simple (smacks head) --[[Image:VallenIconwhitesmall.JPG]]  Vallen Frostweaver  16:57, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Time to archive?
And what is everyone's thought on the best way to do that? - Thulsey   - talk 08:23, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * In my opinion - yes its time to archive, but only up to around the 15th (31 days in the month so about half way?) perhaps put it here Help:Ask a game question/Archive2007 07 1-15. The title being Archive July 1st-15th --[[Image:User The Great Tomato sig.jpg|The Great Tomato]] The Great Tomato 08:28, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Done :) I think it's fine to just archive as the need arises. -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png|sig]] 09:38, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

once again. we got 96 topics and a huge page now. my scrollbar is smaller than 0.5cm - Y0_ich_halt 00:47, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * That's funny, my scrollbar's still 1cm :P but yeah, sure. -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png|sig]] 02:52, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * i'm not using full screen. :) - Y0_ich_halt [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px]] 16:35, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * So much for archiving on the 15th. - elviondale (tahlk) 20:54, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * oops. forgot to watch the date. - Y0_ich_halt [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px]] 20:55, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * LoL I don't mind one way or the other, it was kinda getting long. I just figure maybe some questions answered on there might prevent someone from having to ask the same one again. - elviondale  (tahlk) 22:17, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * hmm.. yer right. but as long as the help links link to FAQ and not here and as long as we keep adding those faq there i think it will be ok. - Y0_ich_halt [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px]] 23:05, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Already getting a warning about the page being too long... - elviondale (tahlk) 06:19, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

I made the page for the next archive.. This fills up FAST! - elviondale  (tahlk) 18:43, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * yup. seems like everyone was just waiting to see this. - Y0_ich_halt [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px]] 18:44, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah.. I could see people refreshing the page waiting for it to show up. - elviondale  (tahlk) 18:48, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * hehe, "come on! can't you start a help page already?" - Y0_ich_halt [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px]] 19:25, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Everyone's so excited to archive! woohoo! - elviondale  (tahlk) 19:26, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * we could also archive every 100 questions :D that would make archive naming easier. - Y0_ich_halt [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px]] 19:33, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Doesn't matter to me, but uniformity for the win - elviondale  (tahlk) 19:42, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I think date is an easier reference. A question 2 months ago is much harder to look up if I have to search for archive1000-1100 or archive1100-1200, etc... :) And it doesn't really have to half a month, if it becomes necessary, make it 3 times a month. -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png|sig]] 02:08, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

for our records:
 * 1) = number of headings

just had the idea this would be funny :) - Y0_ ich_halt  16:24, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Why not just archive it every 32KB?-- §  Eloc   §  17:16, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * if you're looking for a question that you asked, will you rather remember the date or the 32kb block it was in? see above. - Y0_ ich_halt  [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 17:27, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, you got me there.-- §  Eloc   §  17:44, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

FAQ
Just a little note to all who watch this page that if you guys notice a question that keeps getting asked, do add them to Guild Wars Wiki:FAQ. -- ab.er. rant  09:38, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

i'm not content with how many people handle this wiki... the recent comment ("plz just answer, i don't have time to look it up") just calls for violating NPA and telling him "then ***, lazy ***". i think answering questions and such is fine, but i'm against helping people with their laziness, lazy enough to not type "armor" into the search panel. opinions? - Y0_ ich_halt  22:40, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I've added a request to use the search feature at the top of the page. -- Gordon Ecker 01:04, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Yea, it sucks helping people like that. But we're not obligated to help, so feel free to ignore such people. -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png|sig]] 09:18, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * this was more of a call for a rebellion against lazy ppl ;) - Y0_ ich_halt  [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px]] 15:12, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

GWW Helpers
how about adding a link to the GWW Helpers program? - Y0_ich_halt 19:39, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * To have all the game questions on our talk pages? No, thanks.. poke | talk 19:42, 7 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Maybe a good idea, but given the level of some of the questions posted, it might be better if the Helpers watched these pages and responded, rather than wait for someone to patrol over to the Helper page, select someone, and then ask them a question. I'm not disagreeing, I think a link would be good, but not an alternative for vigilance regarding this page. - elviondale (tahlk) 19:44, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * yeah, convincing... lol. - Y0_ich_halt [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px]] 19:46, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Yikes
Somewhere along the line people stopped being able to spell and write coherently. Its hard to reply to comments that make no sense. - elviondale (tahlk) 16:37, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, given that the game is filled with players from all over the world, and the wiki being only in english, it shoouldn't be so surprising. -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png|sig]] 15:13, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 * You're assuming that all of these people are from non-English speaking countries, I wouldn't. The internet seems to encourage people to abandon spelling and grammar. - [[Image:User HeWhoIsPale sig.PNG]] HeWhoIsPale 12:18, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm starting to notice a trend of half-questions too. I just had to answer a question with another question; someone wanted to know "how to register eye of the north". (that quote is the entire question, yep.) But hey, it's easy enough to ask "can you be more specific?" and be done with it. Either they clarify, or they're not knowledgeable enough to check back here for an answer. --[[image:User_Jioruji_Derako_logo.png]] Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> .cнаt^  12:22, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * agree. i don't like those half-questions either... - Y0_ ich_halt  [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 12:55, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * HeWhoIsPale, you said you're assuming they all come from English speaking countrys?-- §  Eloc   §  13:43, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm having the same problem with reading and understanding half-questions, and I think He is contradicting aberrant's supposed assumption that all people are not from English-speaking places, but neither said that all people who post on this page don't natively speak English (if that made any sense). Personally, I think people are typing as they type in-game, with "ur" and "i" and little punctuation.Also, I believe that some of the editors on this page don't natively speak English, but a bit less than half (60/40, roughly?).  Calor  - talk 18:46, 1 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Most of it doesn't look like they have trouble with English, but more, have trouble with spending more then two minutes typing a question. --[[image:User_Jioruji_Derako_logo.png]] Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> .cнаt^  18:49, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * On a totally different note, what's up with the sudden spike of people saying "I lost my account name and E-mail, but I have my access key. What do I do?". Did they pull a Jason Bourne and lose their memory (sorry, I'm reading Ultimatum right now)? Or are they just scammers who somehow got an access key and feel like hacking an account? Or are they genuine klutzes who managed to lose/forget everything about their account?  Calor  - talk 18:54, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * No, I'm just saying that people from English speaking countries are just as likely to be completely incomprehensible on the internet. - [[Image:User HeWhoIsPale sig.PNG]] HeWhoIsPale 19:03, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Just as right either way, i suppose.  Calor  - talk 18:40, 2 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I aggree that people should T-Y-P-E O-U-T their questions, instd f sundng lik his,r wrse, lk tsssss. Save it for your guild chat or for MSN people. Besides, that two minutes is worth it to get a legite answer. Oh... and Calor, Borne FTW--Raph [[Image:User_ Raph_ Sig.png|19px]] 01:14, 14 November 2007 (UTC)


 * The Bourne GWW:Help Ultimatum.
 * Answer Everything; Forgive no bad-typing.[[Image:User Ereanor sig.jpg]]reanor 01:21, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

bla
add this to the top... - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> 22:00, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Ya, I know they are. Like, join a Guild and go bug them (not to be rude or anything to the people who ask question here).-- §  Eloc   §  22:04, 19 October 2007 (UTC)


 * No kidding, i dont know how many people are asking the SAME questions Example: "My account was stolen and i cant find the access key, bla bla bla....."not to be rude, but some things just get reeeeeeeeaaaaaaalllllyyyyyy annoying--Raph [[Image:User_ Raph_ Sig.png|19px]] 23:47, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * If they get annoying don't answer. Its just people who honestly need help, and they may not understand a wiki well enough or just may not look through the whole page. --- Raptors / RAAAAAAAAAA!
 * LoL, real mean.-- §  Eloc   §  03:01, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I just don't like it when people criticize others who are honestly looking for help, that's all. --- Raptors / RAAAAAAAAAA!
 * Still, they should de more wiki-searching and less asking.[[Image:User Ereanor sig.jpg]]<strong style="color: black;">reanor 15:54, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I would not have guessed that this would ever happen, but I fully agree with Raptors on this one. --Xeeron 15:56, 13 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Everyone's against me!! *hides in a corner*. But seriously, i DONT answer all of them, but they do get very annoying. I understand peopl really want help, but they should take the following action to do so: 1. join a guild and ask them, 2. ask a freind they have on their list, or if they havent strted playing yet (heaven forbid)....3.look for similir questions. If you see none, ask on the page. Thats how thorough you should be--Raph [[Image:User_ Raph_ Sig.png|19px]] 01:08, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Time for an archive?
The article page is huge.  Drago 
 * Yo seemed to.-- §  Eloc   §  22:33, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * He did. Largest minus number I've ever seen on RC. Something like 109k characters.  Calor  - talk 23:52, 1 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Here's the log...


 * ( diff ) ( hist ) . . m Help:Ask a game question‎; 17:34 . . (-103,519) . . Y0 ich halt ( Talk | contribs ) (archiving)
 * ...it was so big, it bolded the number of characters removed. And most of those questions were quite short... definitely overdue for that one. Although I found Y0 ich halt's use of the Minor Edit button quite funny when compared to the magnitude of the edit. :D --[[image:User_Jioruji_Derako_logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  03:35, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
 * It bolds anything over 500 characterd I believe.-- §  Eloc   §  03:44, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Well then it's broken, it obviously should have superbolded that like 207 times over. --[[image:User_Jioruji_Derako_logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  03:55, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
 * lulz, i use the minor edit button for archiving since that's not really a meaningful edit ;) might also add one of those "This user's minor edit button is glued to the ground"-box - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 10:13, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

about archiving... we have decided in a discussion above to archive every month on the 15th and the last day of that month. - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> 10:19, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ooh, I got a minor edit userbox lol.
 * We may need to start doing it every week instead of every 2 weeks if alot more questions come.-- §  Eloc   §  13:45, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
 * i think it's enough like this. :) - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 14:22, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ya, for now though, but more people will start being aware of the Wiki and then be asking questions, plus, there will be people who just come to us for every little question they have...what ever happened to asking someone on your Friends list or someone in your guild?-- §  Eloc   §  14:58, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey, I'm not complaining. All those months of telling people to "just check the wiki" are finally paying off, and I'm willing to deal with the consequences. :P --[[image:User_Jioruji_Derako_logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  15:24, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ya, true there. I always tell people to check Guild Wars Wiki & they're like Guildwiki? And I'm like, fuck no, GWW pwns Guildwiki anyday. Go hit F10 and search what you're looking for. We got a few members in my guild who have GWW accounts.-- §  Eloc   §  15:32, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
 * unfortunately GW is still kinda better if you look at content and completeness ¬.¬ anyway, until it really gets too much i think archiving every half month is enough :) - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 16:26, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Aye, Yo hit the nail on the head there. Guildwiki has close to 5000 more articles than us in the mainspace. FIVE THOUSAND! We all try to catch up in articles, but they just keep producing, despite the fact that most "Average Joe" editors are beginning to use GWW instead of GW.  Calor  - talk 18:39, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
 * But I think we've advanced alot further than they have in a faster amont of time. If anything, we get people over here so they can go onto Gailes page or Izzys page to complain about some recent update or they ask the questions here. We also get users who switch over from Guildwiki to here (like me). I bet there are alot more users switching over to here than those switching over to Guildwiki. I'd say we have the advantage over them.-- §  Eloc   §  22:38, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I made the switch, too, but...5000 articles requires more than a few people, and that wiki is still gaining articles, and has better quality articles.  Calor  - talk 22:40, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
 * ours look nicer :P - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 22:42, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

ads = do not want! (sfw) - elviondale  (tahlk) 23:01, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Account name / password questions
It's pretty obvious a lot of people don't read the page before asking how to recover their account name (which is nearly always their e-mail address) and password (which is described via a link on the GW login screen, and countless times on this page). How about making it a policy that login issues shouldn't be posted here, and just include the info on a separate page? It would remove a lot endless repeating of the same questions and answers. Biscuits 17:00, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * The thing about a seperate page with the info on is that noone would actually check the page. Even if we had a link here, people would still post their 'problems' about login and accounts; they don't even read the rest of the page (even reading the contents would suffice), to see if someone had the same problem. [[Image:User-brains12-sigicon3.png]] br12  ~ 17:06, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * But at least by disallowing it, and providing the all the answers via a link, we can remove the questions without having to see the same thing repeated 50% of the time. Biscuits [[Image:User Biscuits sig.png]] 17:12, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree this is a problem, but I think that makimg it a policy to remove such questions is too restrictive. These pages are supposed to help people, whether or not other people before them have asked the very same, or that they haven't searched previous headers. [[Image:User-brains12-sigicon3.png]] br12  ~ 17:19, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * This page is fine as is. It's a media through which people can aquire help and countles players have already used it succesfully. No one forces you to answer, but someone else might have the time to do so. -- [[Image:User Gem sig.png|Gem]] (gem / talk) 17:26, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * yes, but i like the idea of having the info for account problems on a seperate page. i'd suggest a very short page name so that it's a quick work to give people that link where they find their answer. i'd really like it with, e.g. 1. or if that's too undefined, maybe AP for account problem. - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 17:30, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps a better suggestion would be to have a separate page for account and password related questions (as Y0 suggested above). That way, the many questions about passwords/accounts/access keys could be separated from other questions regarding in-game content, and this page could better focus on helping people who want to understand aspects of the game better, rather than the sort of 50% technical support it is now. Biscuits 21:46, 11 November 2007 (UTC)


 * How about aswering "check previous question Help "?[[Image:User Ereanor sig.jpg]]<strong style="color: black;">reanor 15:59, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I was thinking more along the lines of just moving the question to the other page, via the template. Biscuits [[Image:User Biscuits sig.png]] 16:34, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * That's overbooking (I think that's the word).[[Image:User Ereanor sig.jpg]]<strong style="color: black;">reanor 16:36, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Well I don't know what it means in that context if it is the right word, but it sounded like a dismissal. Any other views on making a separate page for account-related questions, and having any posted here moved there? Biscuits [[Image:User Biscuits sig.png]] 08:52, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Could we put it in the faq and mention that most account and password questions are already answered in the faq in the notes section at the top? -- Gordon Ecker 09:02, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't think that would stop people asking new questions, and if they actually have a question that would stop it getting answered. If we have a separate page, we can shift the question and replies there, where there will be more of the same info, the question will get answered, and it will not clutter up this page. Biscuits [[Image:User Biscuits sig.png]] 09:56, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * but it's always so much work to do the whole moving stuff... - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 13:40, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * You suggested it. :p Biscuits [[Image:User Biscuits sig.png]] 14:24, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * That's what I meant, pages can only be moved by Sysops right? So asking for a move slows things down.[[Image:User Ereanor sig.jpg]]<strong style="color: black;">reanor 14:30, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * no, he means creating a page, e.g. Help:Ask an account question. and a)everyone can move b)he meant moving by replacing the question with to. my suggestion was writing an article that contains all explanations and has a short name like acc prob - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 14:34, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * So your suggestion is adding it to some sort of FAQ and send them to it. Don't we already have a FAQ to add it to?[[Image:User Ereanor sig.jpg]]<strong style="color: black;">reanor 14:37, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * two times yes. but the faq is long and it's too much work for a lazy gw player to actually look up where the answer is. - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 14:38, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * So, we read this page, categorize some questions (like account-related ones) as frequent, and then create a special FAQ for Help:Game. I like it.
 * Note that we are assuming that those who ask here are lazy gw players. It doesn't sound nice, but it's probably true, since many questions here wouldn't exist if they had wiki-searched first. As suggestion #9 clearly states in the article.[[Image:User Ereanor sig.jpg]]<strong style="color: black;">reanor 14:40, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not talking about making a FAQ that won't get read, I'm talking about having a separate page for account-related questions. Then any account-related questions posted here can get moved (just the question, not the whole page, which any user can do) there. Biscuits [[Image:User Biscuits sig.png]] 14:52, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * What makes you think a separate page will get any more read than a FAQ? We'll just be more specific and send them to the "account-related" question of the FAQ.[[Image:User Ereanor sig.jpg]]<strong style="color: black;">reanor 15:00, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * biscuits means creating another Help:Ask a x question. then we have three of them, one for wiki, one for game, one for acc. - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 15:05, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, another HELP:X page. I get it. Let's do it, then.[[Image:User Ereanor sig.jpg]]<strong style="color: black;">reanor 15:10, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

OK, if nobody objects or beats me to it, I'm going to make Help:Ask an account or password question tomorrow. Biscuits 20:08, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * /me beats Biscuits xD - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 20:12, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Simply Help:Ask an account question will be better than "or password". With HELP:ACC or something as redirect.[[Image:User-brains12-sigicon5.png|Talk|14px]] br12  • 20:15, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Well I wanted to avoid the type of person who is thinking "omg, i lost my pwd and cant play gw", glances at the options, doesn't see a password page, and clicks Ask a game question. :p Biscuits [[Image:User Biscuits sig.png]] 20:17, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * "Help:Ask an account-related question" - HELP:ACC and HELP:PWD/HELP:PASS as redirects. I really dont like "Help:Ask an account or password question" :S [[Image:User-brains12-sigicon5.png|Talk|14px]] br12  • 20:19, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * How about Help:Ask an account or password or login or e-mail or access key question? :p Biscuits [[Image:User Biscuits sig.png]] 20:23, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * HELP:ACC - HELP:PASS - HELP:LOGIN - HELP:EMAIL - HELP:KEY [[Image:User-brains12-sigicon5.png|Talk|14px]] br12  • 20:25, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Help:Ask a question related to Guild Wars accounts, account passwords, e-mail addresses, account managing, asking support and other similar stuff. no, jk, Help:Ask an account question is fine imo. - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 20:42, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I like the second one, with a redirect of HELP:ACCOUNT, perhaps?  Calor  - talk 20:58, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's better than Help:I'm a noob who forgot his password.[[Image:User Ereanor sig.jpg]]<strong style="color: black;">reanor 21:04, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Which one are you referring to, Calor, by "the second one"? [[Image:User-brains12-sigicon5.png|Talk|14px]] br12  • 21:39, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Help:Ask an account question - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 22:50, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I (no sarcasm here) agree with Calor.[[Image:User Ereanor sig.jpg]]<strong style="color: black;">reanor 00:24, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Y0's second option. Shoulda been more specific the first time. EDIT: Just noticed, brains, that you suggested that first. Don't go stealing credit, y0, bad boy ,* ban stick * . JK.  Calor  - talk 02:44, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Y0! Brain got brain! Don't do no stealing up in he'![[Image:User Ereanor sig.jpg]]<strong style="color: black;">reanor 02:49, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey all.. linking to these uncreated pages is great and all.. but think about what its doing to the wanted pages list. >.< - elviondale  (tahlk) 06:56, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Y0 actually suggested "Help:Ask an account question" up above - "no, he means creating a page, e.g. Help:Ask an account question.". But thanks Ereanor :P [[Image:User-brains12-sigicon5.png|Talk|14px]] br12  • 14:25, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * i suggested a page that contains only answers, not another question page. and i never tried to hog credit. read the discussion again and you'll see that i actually said 'agree with brains'. and the idea of another help page was by biscuits. - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 15:25, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * We know you'd never steal credit, Y0. But questions should be asked and answered on the page, as there are certain unique situations. But at the top of the page (In big letters that nobody can miss), there should be a comment of BEFORE YOU ASK... then a bunch of bullets beneath listing common info, such as that your account name is usually your e-mail, etc., etc.  Calor  - talk 19:30, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * ya, we should make them uppercase. :) - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 19:32, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * And bold. Flashing perhaps? - elviondale  (tahlk) 19:43, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * and colored red! - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 19:52, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * "and lo, it was created, and many repetitive questions were asked" -Book of Biscuits 15:11:07-21:28 [[Image:User-brains12-sigicon5.png|Talk|14px]] br12  • 21:35, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Wiki coding doesn't have a tag, does it? Sigh..  Calor  - talk 23:57, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Some wikis do, this one doesn't. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  00:23, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I was gonna make READ THE FAQ first big, bold, and flashing...but now my hopes and dreams are shattered...goodie twoshoes question answering time.  Calor  - talk 01:19, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * A simple solution would be to find a location to put all the answers that keeps getting re-answered ready for copy-pasting. -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png|sig]] 02:12, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * A few bullets that somehow prominently stand out beneath the current pieces of info at the top of the page would suffice, imo (or above, it doesn't matter too much).  Calor  - talk 02:35, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Template:Accanswer? (using {{subst:) - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 13:39, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * What does {{tl|Accanswer}} mean? &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  15:31, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * account answer: "A simple solution would be to find a location to put all the answers that keeps getting re-answered ready for copy-pasting. -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png|sig]] 02:12, 16 November 2007 (UTC)". copy-pasting => subting a template - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 15:54, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ahh, now I see (and hopefully Eloc). I never was template-savvy.  Calor  - talk 15:55, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * oh, and btw, aberrant, that's exactly what i suggested in the first place XD - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 15:56, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, I was just confused of what {{tl|Accanswer}} stood for. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  16:16, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, I did make Template:Support. ;D Biscuits [[Image:User Biscuits sig.png]] 21:26, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I added a warning to {{tl|Support}}.[[Image:User Ereanor sig.jpg]]<strong style="color: black;">reanor 16:42, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Kind of apocalyptic. ;) Biscuits [[Image:User Biscuits sig.png]] 17:26, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Warning at the Top of the Page
I think there should be warning at the top of the page telling people that this section is maintained and answered by other users just like them, NOT Arena-Net staff. Some of the answers here and very definitive and are often not correct, but players are inclined to trust people, sometimes under the misconception that they are talking to an Arena Net employee. Anon
 * Anyone object to the update? - elviondale  (tahlk) 06:58, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * No. -- Gordon Ecker 07:29, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I personally think that's stupid. People can figure out that it's not just Arena-Net staff here. Hit F10 ingame, it says "community wiki". I'm sure they can figure out what community means. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢 
 * T.T Stupid? Just look at the questions posted and tell me that they know we're not anet reps.... - elviondale  (tahlk) 07:47, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Some of them, but this may be the only place people can find to get any type of contact with ANet representatives. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  07:53, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Good idea. Why not just use one similar to Help:Ask an account question? At the top and obvious is the way to go. :) Biscuits [[Image:User Biscuits sig.png]] 13:12, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Yea, do it for all the "Ask a question" pages. -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png|sig]] 16:35, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * agree with ab.er.rant to put it at top off of all the help pages.<font color="FF99CC">話す  <font color="#FF0033">priestess donut  <font color="FF99CC">寄付 17:55, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I support the idea, too. Eloc FTL[[Image:User Ereanor sig.jpg]]<strong style="color: black;">reanor 18:42, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * &larr; Just kidding :P. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  20:31, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * yeah, let's put this on the top instead of the proposed note. /sarcasm - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 20:35, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Blue Links
Should we be using blue links on this page? A lot of the people who ask questions here might have no idea how to use them or what they mean, maybe we should make these things easier to understand for non wiki savy users? SystemisFlawed
 * A blue link is a standard internet behaviour that has been around since the beginning of the web. I don't think we should go out of our way to explain the workings of the internet to people. ;) Biscuits [[Image:User Biscuits sig.png]] 15:46, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * someone who doesn't know what a link is doesn't deserve to play gw, tbh... - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 17:02, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Aye, and you need to know common things such as how to type, what a URl is, what a website, is, what links are, etc. to use a computer, else it would be "What does tbh mean?" (I think I set myself up to be partially quoted by y0, but sacrifices must be made for knowledge lol).  Calor  &mdash;  talk  19:34, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * this doesn't qualify for quotes in its funniness score. pleh ;P - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 20:09, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * You're not a quote! You're not a quote! --[[Image:User-brains12-sigicon5.png|Talk|14px]] br12  • (talk) • 20:14, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Ya...these quotes are pretty lame. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  01:49, 7 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Aside from wanting to repeat the above answers, I also have this to ask: What else is there to use? -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png|sig]] 05:38, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmm. Click on this writing to go to the wiki page we are talking about . ;-) Biscuits [[Image:User Biscuits sig.png]] 10:36, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm trying Biscuits, but it won't work!!!! ZOMGEE THE HUMANITY!! - elviondale  (tahlk) 17:03, 7 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Im trying papa.... i really am....i really am trying to click it, but it wont go to the page. No! NOT THE BELT!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!....--Raph [[Image:User_ Raph_ Sig.png|19px]] 00:46, 8 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I think we should just accept the fact that we know more then most of the people that ask questions here, and take full advantage of it. Make links hard to find . --[[image:User_Jioruji_Derako_logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>  <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  08:39, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * What the crap man? Thats just cruel - elviondale  (tahlk) 09:21, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * That's politics. And life. :p  Calor  &mdash;  talk  15:03, 9 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Lmao. Now were just making fun of Noobs who have the brains of a retarded lizard. Go ahead, all you nublets. Try to click on the blue writing...;)--Raph [[Image:User_ Raph_ Sig.png|19px]] 18:56, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Aye, we kinda are. I think I can, I think I can, I think I can, I think I Can.  Calor  &mdash;  talk  19:47, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, I loved that story when I was a kid. The little blue engine link that could [disrupt pages and confuse users] ... --[[image:User_Jioruji_Derako_logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  19:55, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Alem's Remedy
I would like to know how much alem's remedy costs, i need it for my rit farmer.
 * The wiki doesn't give prices, as it can be edited by anyone, and prices would be a target for mass vandalism. Check GWGuru or GWOnline for prices, as they should be given there.  Calor  &mdash;  talk  19:46, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * A couple . &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  21:38, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Yep. The wiki doesn't give prices.
 * ... --[[Image:User-brains12-sigicon5.png|Talk|14px]]  br12  • (talk) • 18:46, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Just because the wiki doesn't doesn't mean it will stop me from :P &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  21:38, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Help:Ask_a_game_question
Er, should I have done that? Not sure of the official stance on that, and I did try to make it very off-putting (sorry, I am very rarely 100% serious in tone). It's possible that I might possibly be enjoying use of said program, or maybe I'm not, depending on banstickworthiness. I sometimes may split infinitives a bit also. -- Snog  rat  20:53, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
 * The split infinitive rule is archaic and was "invented" by grammarians based on Latin because--guess what--it's physically impossible to do so in Latin. It's a silly rule and so I say, split away, my friend, split away! Kokuou 21:09, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I shall boldly do so :) -- Snog  rat [[Image:User Snograt signature.png]] 21:15, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
 * well, someone (maybe the same person) asked the exact same question before, and i talked him off without mentioning third-party-programs... the only thing i think has been done wrong was eloc's link... if there are computer newbs, don't show them links they don't understand. if they're experienced enough, they'll know how to do it themselves, or at least to search guru. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px|Have a look at my page]] 22:11, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
 * If they're experienced enough, they wouldn't be asking here, no would they? :P &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  17:04, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * which leaves those asking here being the noobs i spoke of who shouldn't know :D - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px|Have a look at my page]] 18:22, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * XD &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  01:50, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

New Template proposal
Template:AAARRRRGGGGHHHH! AKA, Read the list at the top, use the search, don't be lazy. But in all seriousness, I think we should come up with some way of handling the many posts where the poster has not read the instructions (like removing them). The only issue I can see is that they may just ask it again (we could use a "This message has been removed because it does not follow the instructions" notice to solve this). Of course, some people will always answer the questions, but I'm detecting some people are contributing less because they are getting tired of questions that shouldn't be asked here. I do not want to come off as suggesting we be unhelpful here, but we do generally have a policy of removing content that doesn't conform to policy, and also, if we remove the bad questions, that leaves more room for the good ones to get answered. :) Biscuits 16:09, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Nice idea, I am getting frustrated with some of these people. But like we do with the guildspace, can we put a bolded message on the edit screen telling the person to use this as a sort of 'last resort' and to search and read the messages on top first?  Calor  (t) 16:11, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh, I'm in customer service (sorta) and I'm used to answering the same inane questions over and over again, so it doesn't bother me. I think answering the question and adding a gentle prod in the direction of search is the best policy. -- Snog  rat [[Image:User Snograt signature.png]] 16:52, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * But you get paid for it. ;) Also, all these redundant questions clog up the archives and make people who genuinely search through them have a harder time. Biscuits [[Image:User Biscuits sig.png]] 18:42, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * We'll just have to keep answering them, as there will always be people who just aren't good at reading instructions. The whole RTFM thing and all. As for the archives, I actually have no problems with deleting the obviously redundant (and silly) ones. -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png|sig]] 13:58, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * agree. i'd also suggest we just answer the questions (but telling them the answer's already there first) and then deleting those questions in the archive. maybe some special text-tag to mark them, so we can use browser search to find those questions faster? - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px|Have a look at my page]] 18:54, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Stupid question? Or is that too abrasive? I'm all for deleting archived 'stupid questions'.  Calor  (t) 19:43, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * doesn't need a template. just write the answer yourself and add something like... |noarchive| maybe. but if we do it like that, we should all put the same tag there of course. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px|Have a look at my page]] 21:18, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Or we could just archive it as soon as they post it ;P &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  22:15, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
 * XD - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px|Have a look at my page]] 22:21, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

So I made noarchive. It still allows the question to be answered, but is a clear and easy way for both the archiver to see to skip that one, and lets the user know to read the guidelines next time. I was thinking about putting it in a fancy box, but I thought that would be too intrusive. Biscuits 13:30, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
 * It looks good to me. It doesn't stand out, and I suppose someone'll want that fixed, but it'll suffice for now.  Calor  (t) 16:47, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
 * May I suggest at least keeping a record of posters whose questions were not archived due to such, just in case someone asks what happened; then at least someone attempting to help find their post can go check, see that it was not archived due to repetition, and inform them of such. [[Image:User Aiiane-a.gif|Go to Aiiane's Talk page]] (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 00:48, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Help:Ask a game question/NoArchive-Archive? ;) - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px|Have a look at my page]] 13:01, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm... wouldn't that defeat the purpose of not archiving in the first place? -- ab.er. rant [[Image:User Ab.er.rant Sig.png| ]] 02:19, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
 * it was a joke. when archiving, we could leave those questions' headings and instead only put "not archived" or something below it. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px|Have a look at my page]] 12:53, 13 February 2008 (UTC)