User talk:Xeeron/suggestions/PvP without the Heroes

The Battles Isles should be a place where people fight it out, not heroes. (Demonic Cobra 12:32, 24 January 2009 (UTC))
 * Just a note. People might make mistakes, but a hero will do the exact same thing every time.  You can exploit some of their behaviors if their master isn't keeping them on a short leash.  Point being, that while people make mistakes, heroes can be a disadvantage because they don't and can be countered more easily as such.  Kelvin Greyheart 15:50, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

ANet should understand that the best way to balance heroes in PvP is actually to ban them from PvP...Ysalis 20:48, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Kelvin, any more, people don't bring heroes as a substitute for an MIA player. They're brought on builds that utilize no lag, omniscience, and computer reaction time&mdash;the time it takes to process being aware of X and having the ability to counter it, which is probably less than 0.005 seconds&mdash;while keeping chance of error minimal ( and for starters) --[[Image: User_Ezekial_Riddle_sig.jpg|19px|Talk]] Riddle  21:58, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * You know you fail at balance when your pvp metagame is pve. ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 23:24, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * QFT. I dont mind heroes being in the game, just dont let them join into a Player vs Player world. Demonic Cobra 23:32, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Note that I never said that they are always worse. I am saying that they are reliable.  This is a disadvantage in some regards.  You can anticipate their skill usage in certain situations, and this makes them slightly more vulnerable to well timed interrupts.  I am all for removing them from pvp, just thought I would note that I have found them to be easier to interrupt or diversion in certain situations.  Kelvin Greyheart 02:13, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Being beatable does not make something balanced. ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 02:21, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Where did I say that they were balanced to begin with? Kelvin Greyheart 02:56, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * You're defending heroes. Usually you don't defend something you're against, so I assumed you liked having heroes in pvp.  ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 08:39, 26 January 2009 (UTC)