Talk:Realm of Torment

Obelisks
Did a little looking into the obelisks and it turns out there is nothing to translate within them. The symbols scrolling are just copies of a 6x5 block of characters, all different, rotated and flipped to appear differently. --Talonz 01:13, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
 * you really wasted time doing that?
 * Unlike you, there are people out there who enjoy the lore of the game. In fact, there are many who do, and make lots of speculation and theories on the unknown aspects of the lore. -- Azazel the Assassin/ talk 22:44, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

there is so many things to discover in the real world, why not search things about that?--SHIT 00:40, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * People enjoy writing. People enjoy reading. People enjoy playing video games. People enjoy sports. People enjoy all sorts of things, who do you think you are for insulting others about what they do and don't like? You go enjoy what you like, and others will enjoy what others like. There's no need for insulting others because you think we should do something else. There's no point to life if you don't do what you enjoy doing, and if what you enjoy doing is learning the lore of games and stories, then you should do that. So if you think looking into the lore of Guild Wars is a waste of time, why don't you just leave. -- Azazel the Assassin/ talk 02:11, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

no matter what you do in life, wether you enjoy it or not, there is always a point the only points in existence are having children and having the best intellectual and physical characteristics. it is like hat, it has alays been and will always will be. thinking that the only point of existence is having fun is to be really stupid.--SHIT 13:13, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Says the man who wastes his time trolling people on the internet. Also, would you be so kind as to adjust your signature so that it better represents your user name? Misery  13:44, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

i don't wate tme. it doesn't even take 2 minutes to write 3 lines.--SHIT 14:19, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * The point of life is to enjoy life. If you don't enjoy life, why bother living? The race will continue with others. Intelligence and physical characteristics doesn't matter much in the long haul. Why? Because our lives are short, and our influence on existence is just as minuscule and hardly lasts very long. Unless you are one of the few people like Plato, Alexander, Hitler, or another of the handful of people who have their names last centuries, your life is only as significant as how many people you save, kill, or bring into the world. The only people who truly have "no life" are those who do not enjoy their life, and don't affect other lives. If you're one of those basement folks, you still can have a life if you are enjoying your life. If you think that kind of life is terrible, then I can only assume one of two things: You have a dull life which you dislike and envy those who are able to enjoy their life, or you have that kind of life and think it is worthless when it isn't.
 * And you do waste time, one troll comment wouldn't be wasting time, but coming back to troll multiple times is. Either way, you're trolling and wasting your own time by insulting people who enjoy their life more than you enjoy your own. -- Azazel the Assassin/ talk 05:11, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Defending a point of view is not wasting time. And, by the way, having children is, somehow, the only way to potentially live forever. Maybe YOU can allow yourself to have fun all day long., but that means you are useless to the human race. Why are you useless? Because by letting your brain and body lying on a chair all day long you are weakening your DNA. If we just bother having fun, our DNA will become weaker and weaker untill we become extinct.

We didn't make it to the top of the food chain having fun. And we won't stay on the top of the food chain having fun.

And do not tell me that it is important for people to have fun. You can allow yourself to play video games and coming on this website all day long because our race fought during 2 million years to make us what we are.

Thinking that fun is the most important thing in the world is a dessecration of our ancestors.
 * You act as though you actually know something. Who said those who enjoy reading or discussing things (whether of a game or of something else) is just sitting in the chair all day long? Who said you cannot advance while having fun? Fun for some is playing sports. Some people have fun by studying. Some people have fun is finding ways to advance technology. Who said those who enjoy games (whether playing, or going into the lore), do nothing but enjoy games? Also, DNA cannot "weaken" or "strengthen" in one generation (unless there is some unusual mutation or disease). So just take your self-rightous attitude and leave. ^^ -- Konig/ talk 21:32, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Wasting time trying to find a meaning in history and places in a video game is stupid.

I didnt say it was not correct to have fun

I said it is not the goal of existence.

DNA CAN strengthen or weaken.

Everything we do with our bodies remains inscribed in our DNA. Thats how we survive in different weathers, adapt to diseases, get our sex and shape and everything else.

If DNA didn't strenghten through generations, you'd still be an unicellular molecule eating in water. In fact, we would all be.

Don't try making me think you're more intelligent than me.

I know what I'm talking about.
 * You completely misunderstood me. I didn't say DNA cannot strengthen or weaken, I said it doesn't in a single generation. But it does "though generations". And I never said that "I know what I'm talking about" (the only thing in the world which I know is truth is that the only thing which must exist in existence is doubt) but what I do know is that "trying to find a meaning in history and places in a video game" is not stupid to me and many others. It may be stupid to you, but I don't think it is stupid to the people who make the video games. I guess you can just not play the game since you are calling them stupid (and they have said themselves that they enjoy reading people's views and finds of game lore). I think you are wasting time insulting people and continuing to insult people. Wasting more time than someone who is not only enjoying him or herself but also enjoy someone else's labor. People who, by your terms, "waste time" are in fact keeping the economy going, thus keeping the capitalistic country which produces the game which you play. -- Konig/ talk 02:25, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Genetics CAN change in somebody's lifetime.

video game lore may not be stupid to you, but you are stupid so its stupid.

its also stupid to do something because those who make the game enjoy it.

money is not primordial to survival.

good genetics are.


 * Wow, I cannot read this treasure trove of idiocy. Some of our ancestors actually agreed that life is about having fun and not being a robotic child-factory.  Some of the greatest thinkers in history were not actually physically fit or possessive of "desirable" genes.  That fact that you come here and start playing around with terms like that is a dead giveaway you're a pitiful person.  And the fact that you come here to insult what other people enjoy expands you to both pitiful and miserable.  If this is how you feel about life, please, go back to wasting your brain cells on your drone job, or beating your 17yo pregnant woman, or whatever monotone miserable things you think are better than what anyone else does.


 * Actually, while we're on the topic, having children is only going to expedite the fall of mankind, seeing as how we're too stupid to implement other means of power and resources that are wholly proven to be infinite or near infinite until the Sun swallows us. So if your mind really enjoys being set so firmly in the future, maybe you'll consider NOT spawning another little demon-kin to contribute to the exponential increase of human consumption and degradation of our societies, cultures and intelligence.

And you are not the thing responsible for determining the goal of existance for any other man or woman. Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә    ѕνәи  Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 22:40, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * ""I said it is not the goal of existence.""


 * Ok, I read it. And I must refrain from stating what I wish to state for it is profane beyond imagining.  Please go back to the womb and take your baseless insults with you, you sound like an angsty little teen babbling about genetics.  Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ  аІiсә  [[File:User Aliceandsven 1.png]]  ѕνәи  Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 22:50, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

having fun looking in my contributions and answering them?

i dont think we went from 3.5 billion years of evolution to just hear: "lets play guild wars, instead of making children or being useful to the race, the sun will swallow us and i dont feel like going into space"

come on.--Tipttttttttttttttttttttttttttt 23:20, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

What?
Shiro was a victim of circumstance. In fact so was the Vizier. Why on earth would the gods condemn them as "twisted evil" worthy of eternal anguish, aside from being touched by Abaddon? It was Abaddon's doing that led Shiro to become anxious over the Harvest Ceremony, sparking everything that would lead him down the path we see in Factions. These guys did some crazy evil things, but they were being manipulated by Abaddon. I am probably missing something. Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә    ѕνәи  Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 22:24, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * If you are, so am I. I always thought it was sort of unfair... --[[Image:User Large sig.png|talk]] Large 22:33, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Khilbron is less of a victim of circumstance. Various quests point to Terick corrupting the Vizier before the Cataclysm. A Fleshy Operation and Lost Souls (which mentions of the Vizier of Orr - though it is uncertain if it is Khilbron, though Orr has a bad line of viziers if it isn't) hint at him being corrupted as well. Shiro, with his first death, was a victim of circumstance - probably why he was given the position of Envoy, it wasn't until he tried to go against death that he was sent to the Realm of Torment. -- Konig/ talk 23:45, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for clarifying. Admittedly, I don't know much about Khilbron, I was going off of what I remembered during my playthrough.  As far as Shiro goes, I always attributed his rebellion against the spirit world to feelings of betrayal and revenge and such, not a twisted evil.  Even put frankly as "going against death", it does not seem fair at all.  But, what do I know compared to the resident lore guru of the community :)  Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ  аІiсә  [[File:User Aliceandsven 1.png]]  ѕνәи  Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 00:51, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

miaou--Tipttttttttttttttttttttttttttt 17:24, 13 December 2009 (UTC)