Talk:Medal of Honor

Anyone figure out what it does yet? --203.185.229.15 01:22, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Probably something later in the war, or in fact post-war for having this item. --70.112.39.144 01:28, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Tradeable for White Mantle weapons, probably. Manifold [[Image:User_Manifold_Neptune.jpg|19px]] 02:42, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The guy who looked through the .dat only saw SB weapons. So that what I would assume.  Eive_Windgrace 04:25, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Exciting quests! Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ  аІiсә  [[File:User Aliceandsven 1.png]]  ѕνәи  Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 04:57, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
 * New addition of the HoM? --M age [[image:user MageMontu sig.png| ]]M ontu 06:17, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Please see my talk page for the pictures of the 'new' weapons, also check User:Zora/Gwdat for anything else.-- Nei l2250  ,    Portal Jumper User Neil2250 sig icon6.png 09:46, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
 * well i just got one... can't seem to do anything with it Dinsy 14:19, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
 * They will likely have a similar usage as an Amulet of the Mists or a completed Bonus Mission Pack storybook. Trade it in for a new weapon skin. --Musha [[Image:User_Musha_Sigc.png|19x19px]] 17:38, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Keep them seems the gw.dat cointains new weapons that will probably req this medal to obtain them --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 95.180.9.137 (talk).

Its probably just me, but if you stand back a bit from the icon... it has an uncanny resemblance to the Standard of Heroes in Diablo... user:NaiHasu
 * I see it too. Reference: http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/images/1/1f/Standard-of-heroes.jpg For those who haven't had the pleasure, the Standard of Heroes was one of the rewards of a difficult post-game quest. It has a level requirement but doesn't do anything. Manifold [[Image:User_Manifold_Neptune.jpg|19px]] 18:29, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I also see it. The fact that it too serves no purpose is also interesting. Plus, the way it says "it must be valuable, right?" seems like an ironic way of saying: "Nope, this is crap". Idmz 15:01, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
 * You know, there are still people who insist that SoH does something. It boggles the mind. But I hope this will have a use at some point, even if its just a special something in the Hall of Monuments. FleshAndFaith 03:49, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Omfg... Thank you for filling me with the worst kind of grief imaginable... Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ  аІiсә  [[File:User Aliceandsven 2.png]]  ѕνәи  Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 20:30, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Royal Gifts
Just a suggestion...drop rate on these seem to be kinda high from the Royal gifts (3 out of 7 opened for me) so I recommend not buying, but just getting gifts and hoping for one (Usaf1a8xx 19:38, 22 May 2010 (UTC))
 * "Droprate" from Royal gifts seem to be in the neighborhood of 12% giving a cost of 125 War Supplies per Medal of Honor. Which is 5 times as expensive as bying them. (provided that a MoH are what you are after). --Manassas  [[File: User Manassas Mannysig.png]] 12:51, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Well true...if they are what you are after. But seeing how they currently do nothing, it would be simple enough to buy them later with War Supplies, and test your luck at something useful (at least for now) from your Royal Gifts, and take your Medal of Honors as they come (I'm up to 9 on one account and 3 on the other).  Obviously once we know what they are good for, and provided it's worth getting, then it wuld be in one's best interest to trade War Supplies for them at that point.  (Usaf1a8xx 03:10, 8 June 2010 (UTC))

GW2 Beta Access
Umm, is that just vandalism, or what? My heart says yes to this being true but my mind says no way. Nevermind, it was vandalism. 99.6.219.224 22:21, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
 * yes it was a vandal.ive reverted it within a min.you just got lucky timing.-- Nei l2250  ,    Portal Jumper User Neil2250 sig icon6.png 22:28, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Unlucky timing, it got my hopes up, lol. 99.6.219.224 22:38, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Well the GW2 Beta is going to be open, so :P - Maskeus User Maskeus sig.jpeg 17:11, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * How do you know that? o.O Spotina Talk 22:17, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Trivia
People, can we not at least agree it is possible that this is a reference to the video game(s) of the same name? I am really surprised that no one had posted about the possibility of this before me, though that could be due to how obvious a possibility it is.99.241.34.49 03:23, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The game is named after the medal. It's a medal given out by a number of different armed forces in many different countries. ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 03:25, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
 * . . . . . . . . . its a medal. . . in the millitary. . . for people. . . who did good things. . . its like trying to refrence cheese to the moon. just dont Sonic Monday User Da Sonic Sig2.png 03:26, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Omfg we should so refrence the cheese on the moon! True, its a medal.thats of honor for killing something, Nothing trivial. Next week: Sack of Random Junk Go talk to them about it being a sack full of Random junk -- Nei l2250  ,    Portal Jumper User Neil2250 sig icon6.png 15:05, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
 * lol....idiots eh? --Risus 17:07, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Possibly a reference to the Ebon Vanguard Battle Standard of Honor! Has anyone checked to see if having this medal in your inventory makes it more effective?? :P 67.182.24.195 04:10, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * It does, actually. -- N  aoroji   User Naoroji Golem - Green.jpg 19:30, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Proof plz...don't need random rumors. Need some kind of confirmation that carrying a medal of honor makes your Vanguard titles of skills better.  (Usaf1a8xx 00:31, 26 May 2010 (UTC))

First two words in the medal of honor collector is like modern warfare then later u see call of duty and the name could be after medal of honor series --The preceding grammatically incorrect unsigned comment was added by 69.135.211.198 (talk).
 * As laughable as the mass pounce on the original poster is, I hate having to tell you that he was right. It might do to actually check what someone is saying before you assume stupidity and post accordingly. True, while attributing a reference to an earlier reference isnt the way to go, in this case it appears Anet was actually referencing the game medal of honor and/or the wartime FPS genre. If you doubt, simply read the dialogue for the collecting NPC. [[image:User_Yena_Newsig1.png‎|Talk‎]] ena. 12:34, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you Yena. I am well and fully aware of WHAT a medal of honor is thanks guys, and that the game of same name is indeed merely a titular reference to the item in question. THAT being said, you must admit at least the POSSIBILITY that it is a reference to the game as WELL as the award. I was simply putting it out there. 99.241.34.49 00:45, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Since the guy who gives this stuff mentions Call of Duty, I think Anet refers to the game, not the real medal.--Graahk 12:21, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
 * To put in my 2 cents, I agree that the game is a reference to the medal, however in this instance I believe that the term Medal of Honor, is in fact referencing the game and not the actual medal, this is for 2 reasons, firstly the whole big chat you have with one of the collectors where it mentions almost every major FPS and secondly, when you have more than 1 medal of honor, it is not known as medals of honor, as would be appropriate instead it retains the singular and thus retains the reference to the game of the same name. Just my 2 cents though. -- Salome   [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]] 12:36, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't say this is a reference to Call of Duty exactly due to the block of text from the collector referencing Army of Two also, another FPS. I think it is more of a reference to 1) the actual medal and 2) warfare FPS.
 * Right now i'm thinking that the medal is referenced as a medal and the chat has it's own share of references to a lot of FPS games ... all of them seem to be war themed so it's a reward (medal) you get in War (In Kryta) times Sneaker 20:20, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, the Royal Gifts aren't pluralized either. The fact that the Medals of Honor aren't pluralized in the game is not a reference to the game, but an oversight by the live team. --Musha [[Image:User_Musha_Sigc.png|19x19px]] 17:54, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
 * They should stop playing CoD and work on WiK. Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә  [[File:User Aliceandsven 2.png]]  ѕνәи  Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 20:33, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Red Herring?
It states "This item cannot be traded or sold.". Although it's pretty unlikely, since the phrase "It's uncommon, so it must be valuable, right?" most probably is not intended to set the players on the wrong track, but instead just wants to say "keep it for now, this item will have a purpose later". I think the live team would not dare to piss off the players that way, but it would be a pretty funny trolling attempt nonetheless. Just because nobody would think of it because of aforementioned reasons. &mdash;Zerpha The Improver 21:17, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * my bet is you will have to use theses for the weapons the white mantle are sporting these days.- [[Image:User_Zesbeer_sig.png|link=User talk:Zesbeer‎]] Zesbeer 05:25, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Well under US Law (read:Federal Law)false ownership of a Medal of Honor is an offense constituting a fine and possible prison time. This also extends to anyone other than a Medal of Honor owner (in case of posthumous bestowing)allowing someone to buy or even wear the Medal in question.  It would make sense then that ANet decided to make Medal of Honor unable to be traded, rather than a fine be payed in game or have your account temporarily banned for a period of time. 96.245.7.179 12:54, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Clarification, Federal law prohibits anyone other than the original recipient from wearing or displaying the medal on their person.96.245.7.179 14:47, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Clarification, Federal law is trash. --76.114.80.153 05:15, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
 * lol@rebuttal. 96.245.7.179 02:15, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * It's better than taking federal law seriously Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә  [[File:User Aliceandsven 2.png]]  ѕνәи  Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 20:35, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Regardless of whether or not Federal Law is trash and shouldn't be taken seriously it explains WHY the description states it's uncommon so it must be valuable AND why it can't be traded to other players. 96.245.7.179 23:36, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Lol, definitely. I was just being silly. --76.114.80.153 16:19, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Lol, that will translate into "our American friends will not be able to trade these medals, if and when a collector or such will start to appear", as this would indeed violate local law in that small part of the world over there.... funny, innit?

84.56.177.201 16:19, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Standard of Heroes similarity
The way I see this, this item refers to the Standard of Heroes from the Diablo II computer game. I have added this to Trivia in the article. Mad King&#39;s Stewardess Tell 21:57, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I seriously hope you're just a troll because that's retarded, there's no similarity whatsoever between the icons. This is a silver medal with the Shining Blade emblem on it, and the other is a green banner of arms (a.k.a. a battle standard) with a completely different design on it. I'm removing the note unless you can get some type of confirmation from the devs. » User_Keneth_sig.png Keneth O'Connor, 08:55, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Out of curiosity stewardess, what made you think their was a similarity between the two? -- Salome   [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]] 12:37, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, if you forget to wear your glasses (or put on those of someone whose vision "numbers" are totally different from yours), you can sort of kind of see a resemblance there, assuming you can even tell wtf you're looking at now. Other than that... a pin-on medal vs. a flag on a totem pole? Um... no. [[Image:User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpg]]Rose Of Kali 20:36, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
 * While I agree the Medal of Honor looks like the standard of heroes from D2, I think it's safe to say that's a coincidence. I think the Medal of Honor looks like a Medal of Honor. 122.111.7.236 07:35, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Off topic: Osht! Why is the real thing an upside-down pentagram? :O [[Image:User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpg]]Rose Of Kali 10:23, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * When I first saw the item, it actually reminded me of the Standard of Heroes immediately. The icons might not represent similar things, but thay look alike, and I can not understand how anybody would not be able to see this. Other than that, the functionality is completely similar as well; the Medal has a line suggesting that it has value, while the Standard has a Level 90 requirement which implies that it really is useful. I'm positive that this item refers to the Standard of Heroes. Mad King&#39;s Stewardess Tell 16:03, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * That's like saying shields are a reference to watermelons because they're both round. General geometric shapes do not make a reference, nor does the fact that they're both supposed to hold some value (wtf lol). » User_Keneth_sig.png Keneth O'Connor, 21:50, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't understand why none of you can see what Stewardess is trying to say, it's really not that revolutionary. The items are somewhat similar. They are both given in response to a difficult task, and they both have perceivable value which doesn't actually translate into anything in-game ATM. User:Healer Of Malice 15:21, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Exactly, it's like a real medal of honor. ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 23:39, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Except they're not valuable because you can get 100 in an hour and they're fucking sitting my storage doing NOTHING Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә  [[File:User Aliceandsven 2.png]]  ѕνәи  Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 01:17, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Hmm... sorry but I don't see it to me the Medals of honor just look like general medals and the standard of heroes look more like banners, like the medal somewhat with the actual coin/medal or w/e removed.

I think they are both based off of real world medals hence why their is a slight similarity but its a pretty big push to suggest that the MoH "refers to the Standard of Heroes from the Diablo II computer game." Dinsy 06:15, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
 * A big push? It's been done before. Anet is always referencing other media and undoubtedly in some cases other games. I'd say it's very possibly a reference to the item in Diablo II. Pariah [[File:User Pariah Pariahmoa.png]] talk  04:55, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Very possible yes, but considering the item in question can be a reference to real life as well, I say it's more likely not a specific call on D2. Now, if it was a Horadric Cube... ---  Ness Hrin   [[File:User Ness Hrin SBIcon.png]] | 06:29, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Possible? .. you're way too kind to that absurd theory. Just look at the thing. It's a medal and a ribbon - just like any real world award medal since the dawn of times. Just because a cloud in the sky has a very vague resemblance with Lady Gaga, it doesn't mean the gods had her in their thought when they made up todays weather. --Manassas  [[File: User Manassas Mannysig.png]] 08:47, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

New Weapon Skins - Possible use for the MOHs
In riverside province during the Temple of the Intolerable quest a white mantle npc carries new weapon skins. - Noticed June 18th 2010 - This is mere speculation. ~Naraphim
 * (Update - July 8th, 2010 - I was right - ftw - but will they eventually be collected in the HOM?)


 * Me and Zora beat you to that by more than a month.See? -- Neil  2250  User Neil2250 sig icon6.png 18:06, 18 June 2010 (UTC) User Neil2250 New White Mantle Weapons.jpg
 * Anyone tried this to extract the models/textures and make its own renders in 3ds max ? Yseron - 90.15.63.174 21:01, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Seems odd to receive Mantle weps for fighting on the Shining Blades side...I want a sword called the Shining Blade darn it :-pBurrTheKing 22:15, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Probably the best prediction I've seen yet.Spotina Talk 22:17, 24 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Listen up,heres my prediction:


 * Shining Blade win the war (Duh.)


 * We get the 'Spoils' of war.(Aka: The weapons)


 * The weapons will come at a price, Medals of honor.


 * These weapons will probley come between 1-3 medals of honor each, might be to do with Offhand/Wand/Sword/Twohand.


 * Simply:
 * We get the white mantle weapons (for a price) for killing the white mantle in the war-- Neil  2250  User Neil2250 sig icon6.png 22:28, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that was my thought as well. It's the easy way out, that way no new SB models have to be made. Efficiency, yay. ---  Ness Hrin   [[File:User Ness Hrin SBIcon.png]] | 00:06, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
 * If it's only 2-3 medals each wth am I gonna do with the 20 something I have collected lol? But yes I did consider the spoils of war option...I would just like Blade weps moreBurrTheKing 16:44, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I seriously doubt it will only be 2-3 metals per. I'm expecting something like 2 more quests so we get five completing those and then for them to cost 7-10. Or similarly only needing a few more past the quests should you complete them all. Unless its finally something else (better) we can display in the HoM, and then I wouldn't be surprised if they cost 20-50+ or something ridiculous. Since they can not be traded, I do expect there to be a smaller reward with consumables or something that only costs 1 MoH ea, so you don't get leftover junk stuck in your inventory. Lillium 15:47, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

The battle for Lion Arch
Can someone confirm that after this quest, a weaponsmith is exchanging MoH for new weapons ? thx. 194.2.20.67 07:24, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, greens and golds. 10 medals per weapon.--200.83.56.18 07:43, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't suppose they can be placed in the Hall of monuments? -- FreedomBound [[Image:User_Freedom_Bound_Sig.png|19px]] 12:19, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Update to page
Since we now know the purpose, should we not have a collectors section like every other trophy? The Orlando 02:49, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

If you do not have 10 Medals of Honor at the end of the quest(...)
Should be noted that if you take the reward after the battle in lion arch keep, you will need to rezone to get the collectors?--85.53.64.94 14:33, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * i know it's late but.. FAIL! ;3--The Holy Dragons 18:22, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Valor
Are these easier to get then tormented and destroyer?-- Icyyy Blue   00:38, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
 * depends on your situation and if u like to grind. if you have a lot of money you could easily buy the components to get any of them if you have a lot of diamonds and the components to get destroyer they are the easiest to get if you are willing to grind out the wik quests they they are easy to get if you are willing to grind out gemstones then torment weapons are easy to get.-[[Image:User_Zesbeer_sig.png|link=User talk:Zesbeer‎]] Zesbeer 00:50, 6 June 2011 (UTC)


 * (Edit conflict) (Expanding on Zesbeer's comment.)


 * You mean, are Medals of Honor easier to acquire than armbraces or 10 diamond/onyx+granite-stack?
 * Tormented: Armbraces require 15 gemsets (lots of DoA runs) or 22-25 ecto. &larr; difficult/expensive
 * Destroyer: You can farm Kamadan for diamonds (1-2k), onyx (500-1000g), or granite stacks (7-10k); the total costs would probably be 40-80k each (depending on which mats you already have). The trip to Slavers' is trivial. Alternatively, you can repeatedly visit Oola's lab (granite from the golem stones, onyx/diamonds from LoD and the end-chest).
 * Oppressor: You can farm WiK bounties and/or HotN mini-mish to produce 250 war supplies, to convert into medals easily. Or you can buy the weapons for 50-70k each directly. Or you can buy the war supplies for 250-350g ea (62.5k-87.5k total).
 * (Above prices reflect market conditions over the last year; your mileage will vary.)


 * So easier depends on what you think is easy. Personally, if I was helping a friend fill their monument, I would buy a single Tormented weapon and divide up the remaining 10 (or 14) between Destroyer and Oppressor weaps. With a bigger budget, I would get 1 T-weapon, 1 D-weapon, and 9 (or 13) O-weapons, because I think most of the D-weapons are ugly. — Tennessee Ernie Ford ( TEF ) 00:55, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
 * yea that's basically what i did.-[[Image:User_Zesbeer_sig.png|link=User talk:Zesbeer‎]] Zesbeer 00:59, 6 June 2011 (UTC)