Talk:Storm Djinn's Haste

Energy
The description says you lose one energy per second, but in the notes, it says its like only having 3 regen. This is slightly inaccurate, correct?
 * I think the notes mean that while moving, you're losing energy in a way that makes it equal to having three arrows of energy degeneration? Or is it 3 arrows of regeneration maybe.. It's certainly not clear :P - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]]  (contribs)  17:25, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Doesn't look right. Am changing '3' pips to '2'; perhaps that may generate the rationale.Oye 02:05, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Cancel that. Regen used to be 2 pips per second but it appears to be 3 pips per second now.Oye 02:09, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
 * No, you have energy regeneration of 4 and you lose 1 per second, but gain back 1 energy every .5 seconds or so.   So basically, your saying when you have storm djinn's haste up, you gain back 1 energy every two seconds.  Think about it67.81.169.196 23:21, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 3 pips = 1 energy per second, so this is equivelent to having -3 energy degen 76.26.189.65 12:43, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * In other words, its like only having one pip of energy rejeneration while moving under its effects. This means that at 22 sec of duration, you would only regain 1/4 of the energy you would normaly. It also means that after 22 seconds of continuose movment, the TRUE energy cost of the skill would be 27e for 25% increase. i hope that clears it up!--79.70.101.66 23:05, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 2 lazy 2 read the other thins above, but with my Ranger (with 3 "arrows" of regen) im not losing any energy at all. It goes 14>15-1=14>15-1 etc. Mlw640[[File:User Skallen640 Skull.png]]

Bug?
This skill is bugged. I tried to use it on my Ele hero for FFF runs. Once Shadow Form ends (health drops to approx 40) you start losing health instead of energy. It doesn't drop below 1 so the hero doesn't die though. Erszebet 13:48, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
 * It is bugged, not just after Shadow form either. I'll add the tag. Invincible Rogue 06:55, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
 * The bug used to occur when heroes were beyond compass range. In Live build 24899 and later, the bug should be fixed for this skill and a few others. Are you guys still seeing the effect? Austin Spafford 20:38, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Haven't seen it at all in a while, removed the tag Invincible Rogue 16:31, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Yup, it's fixed - thnx :-) Erszebet 10:54, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure thing! :D Austin Spafford 23:45, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

update
why did the movement speed get decreased with Flame Djinn's Haste? This could have been stayed at 33%, as it is really inferior to his fire magic equivalent. 5 Energy and half a second less activation time, and you get a huge energy loss over time instead of pbaoe. ridiculous...i mean, that's like an energy degen of 3, making this skill at the end much more expensive only for half a second less activation time and no damage. &mdash;Zerpha The Improver 07:45, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
 * As a pure running skill, this is actually still better than the flame counterpart imo. If used by a caster you actually have no energy loss at all. I guess it has to do with the flagg running in GvG (article link on page). It's gonna have a small effect on my FFF runs though :p Erszebet 09:27, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Related skills
Last time I checked, we required more then just +speed in the profession to be related...even flame djynn's haste is so different from this. The only one I could see being related is burning speed, because you'll faster for X duration at the cost of Y.

For now, I'm removing all related skills from this. If you have good reason to, add them back but be sure it's more reason then +speed... -- Barkingllama

Golden Sun reference anyone ?
Storm Djinn's: --cut link reason below-- Flame Djinn's: --cut link reason below--
 * ok I remove your links... when I followed them it did take me to the intended page but some other element like an advertisement or some code on the page started acting maliciously with a popup claiming I was infected... then it mouse trapped me so I could not get away... had to end process on my browser MrPaladin talk 12:27, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * check you comps security some anti virus software could help

Another related skill?
Would Lyssa's Haste be a related skill since they're both an enchantment, both give a speed boost, and both have an effect for each second while running.(Health/energy loss or gain)

1 more outpost
I bought this skill in gate of torment.--95.176.184.216 08:56, 23 September 2010 (UTC)