Talk:Arborstone

Semi-Impossible?
I'm sorry that this is off topic, but I've tried this like 10 times both with henchies and PuGs (who were fairly intelligent actually), and always get destroyed by the final stone guardians. Does anybody have any tips for taking down these guys? Also, I'm not sure if the tip on pulling some of them before they join the boss is of real use. It seems pretty hard to do this, I think there is a script set in to order them to move to the boss's position. Every 2 seconds or so, they will stop coming after you and fall back. Eldin 19:34, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Are you talking about hard mode? The standard mode is fairly simple (coming from someone who's rubbish at the game!) but I can see the stony freaks being a royal pain in HM -- Snog  rat [[Image:User Snograt signature.png]] 21:35, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * The only problem I ever had trying to do this mission, was with Danika. She gets herself killed very easily, she often gets stuck, or just stands there and gets pummeled by the final group.  It can be frustrating, but when you know what you're doing, it's not too much of a problem.  If you try hard enough, you should be able to pull most of the monsters in the final group individually.  Keep the urn near the back, and make sure Danika isn't following you up.  Easily doable with heroes/hench, and I won't pretend to be an expert at the game :p172.212.27.253 19:26, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Easy Mission
If this mission was so easy,please enlighten us all as to why it was so easy for you to do. Prince Karak

Arborstone Notes
If Arbor is Latin for "Stone" then it would it Be StoneStone not Stone Tree. But really arbor is defined as follows.Ifive 13:36, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

ar·bor (är′bər)
 * noun
 * 1.a place shaded by trees or shrubs or, esp., by vines on a latticework; bower
 * 2.Obsolete
 * a garden or lawn
 * an orchard

ar·bor (är′bər)
 * noun
 * Bot. a tree, in contrast to a shrub


 * Arbor People make my head hurt.- [[Image:User HeWhoIsPale sig.PNG]] HeWhoIsPale 13:40, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey! Arbor is not just a Latin word, it's English too! There is no need for that note. MithranArkanere 19:00, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Difficulties
This mission can be made a lot easier by the following: Appropriate use of the urn. - Have whoever is holding it in the fight so they actually take enough damage to charge it fast - puller comes to mind. Don't give in to the temptation to put it on a backline caster - or if it must be on a backline caster, have that caster step up and take some damage. - Try to drop it when as much of the group as possible is gathered around the bearer, as otherwise the bearer will have trouble going through his or her damage absorption while the rest of the group might be dying due to lack of immunity.

Skill selection - Forget anything that casts at 2 seconds or slower unless you're a Mesmer. Be prepared for the rocks, don't bring builds dependant on tricks that break down if those tricks are interrupted. Wait until AFTER a rockshower to start casting any possibly slow skills you might have.

Chose the right path for your group. If you're, say, running a few MMs, than you quite possibly shouldn't go through the middle - the minions will make sneaking past the groups in the main cathedral difficult, and probably do some crazy aggroing. The same could be said of henchies or heroes.

The mission really is by no means difficult if you think about the environmental risks and build to avoid them in the first place.

As for taking down the boss group - remember that you only actually need to kill the boss. If you take the path through the dredge, you can attack him from the door, and Danika will open the gate quicker. :p

HM Times for Master
Are the NM and HM completion times the same? I completed the mission in HM in 18:35 for Master Reward. -- Arduinna  15:53, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't know, but I got HM Masters in 23 minutes.--Emberlights 17:01, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I did HM Masters in 17:49 just now with a modified Discordway team (7 heroes). Astralphoenix777 07:46, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

HM
Rts near start are level 25. Mesmers are level 26. Warriors are level 26. Rangers are level 26 and the rts inside cathedral are 26 also. Will add to main page after -- Chieftain  Alex 15:01, 4 August 2008 (UTC) apologies forgot to log in.

Why is middle route recommended?
I've done this mission several times now and agree that the southernmost route is the most difficult due to the drege but I think the center route is almost as difficult because of the large number of wardens in the area at the bottom of the stairs just before you get to Stone Judge.

I found that the northernmost path is actually the most manageable. It may be a longer path but it's easier to pull the various undergrowths and control aggro.

So far after several attempts, I've never done this successfully via the southern route, completed it once (but gotten further) on the center route, and have completed it several times on the northern route.

What is everyone else's experience? Luke1138 13:44, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The centre path is recommended due to it being the shortest length, you can lure most to you away from multiple mobs, dropping the urn in safe areas for Danika. Shortest = easier = masters ... any questions? :) --[[Image:User_Chieftain_Alex_Chieftain Signature.png]] Chieftain  Alex 21:22, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Personally I tend to take the path filled with Dredge, I think they are easy foes and the end sits conveniently near the door so you can get Danike there fast to open it. Did it in HM with H&H in 26 minutes. -- Nox Coma 00:58, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Danika
After you pick up the urn, be sure to wait untill Danika follows you. More than I care to remember has she just stayed there while I was off fighting to the end. Then after you figure out where she is, she takes a different route then you did, and she dies because that route still has mobs. NPC's suck. I can't even remember how many times NPC's have screwed up a mission or quest because they do stupid things. Just a note to remember. Sjeng  16:17, 29 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Also some extra info on Danika, don't take a MM on this mission, if you do she'll spend all her time healing the minions and you'll never get the cathedral doors open. Shame really because a MM would be amazingly useful.--Whisperwind 11:36, 31 January 2009 (UTC)


 * MM work fine. Just flag the MM where you want Danika to go and she'll open the doors when her spells need to recharge. 64.30.95.118 02:06, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

I just had her get stuck on the stairs in the center. No enemies around her, I was carrying urn the whole time, just stood there doing nothing. Couldn't get her to budge and had to restart. Bug? --SunJinyu 02:55, 9 January 2010 (UTC)


 * The pathfinding on this mission is foul. On HM just now: cleared the northern route in no time with a modified 7-hero Discordway team, only to find that Danika was still back the start. Went back; took me several minutes just to get her to move off the stairs. At this point she promptly decided to run at full pelt straight through the Wardens down the middle path and get herself killed. The programming on this mission is definitely not one of ANet's finest hours. Astralphoenix777 07:22, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Faction Reward
Quote: 1 You can only earn the faction reward the first time you complete the mission at a certain level in either mode, you will not earn faction for completing it in the other mode. That is simply not true. I just received 3x1000 faction for mastering it in HM and I'm already Protector of Cantha. Manassas 20:56, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Confirmed. I gained faction for completion of both this mission and The Eternal Grove in HM after achieving Protector of Cantha. Athena Dominus 05:57, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * If you completed the mission in NM before the Nov 13 update for the Protector title, this would be reasonable and the note still be true. The update notes explicitely state that "this is a one time only reward." --User Ring sig.png Ring 01:45, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Recently completed this mission for the first time with my Prophecies character, I got it on masters on the first attempt (Normal Mode), and got 3x1000 faction reward. Needs to be confirmed and main page updated. Josestefan 08:00, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
 * The same happened for me, but I think that's supposed to happen. The "You will also get 1000 Kurzick faction points upon completion of this mission, regardless of time taken or mode completed." seems to be an (updated) relic from before the update mentioned above, which I'm going to remove... --User Ring sig.png Ring 01:45, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Edit
Previously said to head East, but actually you head West across bridge MystiLefemEle 15:04, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Good catch! Luke1138 00:17, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Energy Bug
During the last part of the mission, I (necromancer) couldn't use any energy skills when holding the urn. My energy was full, and I tried spells costing from 5 to 15 energy, but an error message said that I had too little energy. Paddymew 08:21, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Zaishen Mission Bug
I was doing the Zaishen Mission when I used Song of Concentration in order to prevent Danika from being interrupted. However, although my party died and it said I failed the mission, Danika completed the Blood of Zu Heltzer spell and my Zaishen Arborstone Mission was updated for completion (except the time, either I took too long or that doesn't count if the party dies). Than 05:08, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Text bug
It said Melheno must survive, not the other bitch. -- Halogod35   03:18, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

URN
Just completed Misson without the URN. FYI
 * Yeah, I did that. I (W/R in an H/H group) picked it up, then wandered around dropping it periodically so I could attack (silly me, I didn't bring a spell-caster secondary...).  I dropped it for the final fight before Danika opened the door, then didn't pick it up again.  It was fun watching my character standing there empty-handed in the cinematic, babbling about how we had retrieved the urn...  I crushed the mission, though, no problem at all.  Cynique 16:25, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Locked Chest
Killed all the stone guys at end and a chest poped up. Danika literally got stuck between this chest and a rock (rock and a hard spot hehe). Fortunetly she backed off it within 30sec but it had me scared. 23:41 HM, lots of deaths though, damned bip livia ;-) 150 Zcoins... Justice 07:07, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Mhenlo is weaksauce
Really buddy? Couldn't climb over that little stone wall???