Talk:Feast of Corruption

signet of capture > Rotscale also has this
 * Rotscale isn't a boss. Sorry. Ayumbhara 20:17, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Selvetarm isn't a boss either. -- Gordon Ecker 05:53, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * But the Frostmaw Spawn are. -- Gordon Ecker 01:20, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi, can someone plz explani why this skill is often reffered as a good PVE main dmg dealer skill???

I mean in the DoA balanced team its stated tht the 3 nukers can be replaced with FoC Necros, or in the Slavers Balanced team its stated that the SS necro can be replaced with this. All i see here is a 139 AoE armor ignoring dmg (lvl 18 curse) every 20 seconds, even if you eco the skill and make 139 AoE dmg every 10 seconds its still far from good... The energy cost is too high too 15en for 139 AoE dmg, is too high to make it a good pve chioce...

Lets do some fast math:

++ = 278 AoE dmg 45 20 = 13,9 dmg/sec;  6,1dmg/1;

+++ = 440 AoE dmg 35 20 = 22 dmg/sec; 12,5 dmg/1 + you got your free elite slot!

Spaghetti 12:09, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * sry but that just fails, everyone knows that rising bile is worthless and that FoC shall be used with AoE hexes --Cursed Angel [[Image:User Cursed Angel Signature.jpg|19px|talk]] 13:13, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Show me why should anyone use FoC vs Rising+Putrid, or vs SS for that matter. As i have shown FoC is inferior in both dmgps and en manegement. I dont see what "everyone" sees in this skill but the math states differently....Spaghetti 13:39, 22 January 2008 (UTC) I mean cmon 139 aoe dmg every 20 sec lol what kind of elite is tht? Spaghetti 13:42, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Saying rising bile is bad means you don't know how to play tbh. The difference on the maths here is that the FoC damage comes quickly+ it lifesteals when you use suffering or w/e with it, you don't wait for 20 secs. Lord of all tyria 13:44, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Rotting Flesh + Rising Bile + Arcane Echo + Rising Bile = 50 which is not 35 as u stated, also wth do u get 440 aoe dmg from? rising bile does 120 dmg after 20 seconds which means that ur fantastic combo takes 40 seconds to do 240 aoe dmg with, which is, as everyone can see, gay as heaven, even u should know that u have no idea what ure talking about, i have played necro for 2 and a half year and u seem to FAIL horribly at it--Cursed Angel  13:54, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Cast bile on 2 targets. Lord of all tyria 13:59, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Look dont take me for a Bile fan, i just took the first combo i tought, bt there are many non elite aoe armour ignoring dmg skills better than this one. lol even skills like are more spammable aoe higher dps skills. I dont even want to start making comparrison with Ele skills...

Any way, since 278 dmg (for 45en) is not likely to kill anything the "instant dmg" talk does count little. To repeat the combo you have to w8 20 seconds (with low en considering tht you have spent 45). So yes this is a 278 spike dmg, bt in zones like DoA or Slavers the amount of dmg il laughable and the high rech time make it useless. I wanted to hear the opinion of the others sine i see tht this sill is often reccomended bt i dont see the reason for it... Spaghetti 14:12, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Well you're missing the lifesteal, for one. FoC+echo=2 slots, so you should probably take rotting out the maths for the second equation. Lord of all tyria 14:15, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes but FoC is Elite! and the others are not, + we are talking about dmg not health gained, since that health does not change much ( foc not spammable and nec hp pool not large). Bt lets skip this bile+rotting combo perhaps its not the best example to show tht FoC needs a buff, lets see Feast of Corruption vs Cry of Pain combo.

++ = 278 AoE dmg 45 20 = 13,9 dmg/sec;  6,1dmg/1;

++++=  400 AoE dmg 55 24 = 16,5 dmg/sec;  7,2dmg/1;

I did not add in this chain to keep the comparrison simple bt with Eco this combo will pull out more than 800 dmg in approx 20 sec! So still think FoC is good? Spaghetti 14:43, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Think of pvp, buffing FoC will not end well. FoC spike was pretty awesome for a long time, buffing this would be a bad idea. Lord of all tyria 14:57, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes could be that, they could make it to increase with DMG with every next foe affected. Something like if it affects 1foe deals 100 dmg on 2 foes deals 110 dmg (each) on 10 foes deals 200 dmg (each), so it will be less effective in PVP... idk my 5c to this elite. Spaghetti 15:07, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * 80 armor ignoring damage + 40 life steal, instant aoe 120 dmg instead of bile which requires ur foes to stand together after 20 seconds, which will never happen, never, and theyre probably dead before or get removed. And srsly compare it to Cry of Pain/lightbringer gaze? its pve skills, theyre meant to be overpowered. --Cursed Angel [[Image:User Cursed Angel Signature.jpg|19px|talk]] 17:02, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Lol appart from espressing pov, even offending once a while you dont state facts or numbers. And you dont have to rewrite the FoC statistics, as you can see above i have done that and even calcuated dps and dmg/en relations of it, i have even placed the skill in a combo to see its dmg output. Still seems low dmg for an Elite skill. Perhaps they are calculating the health gained from it, but even as i sad b4, the health gain is not rellevant (useless). And again if you see better i have made a comparrison with other Blood and Curses Skills, here the difference is not so big as with the PVE only skills, bt the spells are almost even, and if we consider tht this is elite and those are not, its clear that there is something to be done with FoC. And yes, if you go and see top i have stated PVE! and this skill in relation to the team builds for DOA or Slavers. For the Bile talk id suggest you go to the Bile talk page and express your rage and pov about it, lol, here the main discussion is about FoC. So my question is why spend the free Elite slot for FoC when you can take an other non elite to do a better job?Spaghetti 01:39, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 * all i see is ur experience in this that fails, buff it and welcome all the old FoC spike groups in pvp, guess u didn't even play gw back then. There's a reason why it's kept low and PvE skills are strong, and necro's aren't supposed to nuke so why is ur argument like "compare necro dmg skills to ele nuke skills and see im right", give up ur just embarasing urself --Cursed Angel [[Image:User Cursed Angel Signature.jpg|19px|talk]] 09:02, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

The numbers are just up on this page, i invite you to read them..


 * Oppressive Gaze + Arcane Echo + Oppressive Gaze x3 times... What? thats confusing. what do u mean with using Oppressive Gaze 3 times after Arcane Echo? Also you need a skill that causes AoE Weakness, read it, u need weakness on all the foes for the lifesteal to take effect. Thats another energy cost and Enfeebling blood that causes life sacrifice. --Cursed Angel [[Image:User Cursed Angel Signature.jpg|19px|talk]] 11:09, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

The Gaze comparrison is not good since it has too much conditional dmg...Spaghetti 11:41, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

First off: FoC is a horrible DPS skill, no-one is arguing anything different. The reason it was used in DoA groups was that it's a good spike skill for use in tank+spank groups: an invicible (traditionally spellbreaker + stoneflesh + bonds) tank draws a big group of monsters together, the dmg dealers run in, unleash their combo and everything dies within a few (<10) seconds, before the monsters get a chance to kill all those squisy nukers. That's why comparing FoC and Bile is useless, Bile is just too slow. As for Cry, that's of course better than FoC, it's better than every other nuke, and serious tank+spank groups run Cry nowadays, not FoC and not Searing whatever. PuGs still run Fire+Spiteful, because that's the way it was done a year ago and learing a new build is obviously too much to ask. Now if you want to fairly compare FoC with anything, compare with Defile/Desecrate Enchantments. 134.130.4.46 14:25, 29 January 2008 (UTC) Yes, Cry owns FoC, so there is little sense in creating pve team builds and using foc or even fire when this is much more effective skill.Spaghetti 18:34, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

You really rarely see this skill used by anyone other than players who are new to the game and even in pvp it's horrible because of it's extremely long recast time, two second casting time, and the secondary effect requires that the foe to be hit by the first affect unlike searing flames where the target might not be on fire first but eventually will on the next time due to them being in range.Highway Man 02:45, 2 February 2008 (UTC) time.Highway Man 02:42, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Since when is capping this skill something a person new to the game is gonna acomplish? First timed i capped it was like 6months ago for skill hunter title. and my account was started 1 week after gw came online.--Justice 07:26, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Feast of Corruption is insta failure. 87.189.190.132 12:43, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree, this skill is epic fail. If you see anyone running this skill, kick him and tell him to get a non-elite.
 * This skill is inferior to stuff like Searing Flames, period. In the time it takes this skill to do 120 damage and recharge (at 15 Curses), Searing Flames has hit 7 times for up to 698 damage (at 15 Fire Magic, against a 60AL, Lv.20 foe). Even taking into account that FoC's damage isn't affected by armour, it's way underpowered. I'd like to see this cast in 1 second and recharge in 10, reduce the conditional lifesteal to 20, but make it so that everyone takes the lifesteal if the target is hexed (rather than requiring all foes to be hexed). Until then, if you're running Curses, take a proper elite like Spiteful Spirit. Astralphoenix777 22:44, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Changed ever?
Was gonna ask if this skill has ever changed since prophecies release but i checked on the other wiki. As bad a skill everyone makes this to be its one change was actually to make it 5e more. According to other wiki and even the prima guide it used to be 10e ;-) Perhaps if i droped this on 3 necro heros and gave them arcane mimicry aswell lol--Justice 02:58, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

skill is used
peeps use this in a FoC spike.--Justice 18:49, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

December 11th
Why didn't FoC get changed? --Chaos Messenger 09:21, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Inscribed Guardian
Just capped FoC from Inscribed Guardian it is very difficult but is possible so adding to aquisition. And to those who don't believe me I tried to get a Screen Shot but barely had time to cap skill itself I needed to use Symbolic Celerity to shorten cast time of Cap Sig. Monk Texas Ranger 19:04, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

smart guy ;-)  --Justice 07:31, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Buff Needed
This could be a viable elite if it was buffed, shortening the recharge to 15 would make it usable in PvE, and with all the PvE-PvP splits on skills now, why not get this back on to my necro's bar? I'm getting sick of using SS on everything. 216.167.213.148 17:54, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe increase the range to nearby?--138.88.227.218 23:05, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

The problem with this skill is that its easy to get 120dmg out of it and a minimum of 40 healing. Reduce the recharge and more peeps will use it and then it will become a commonly used non-scatter spike skill. Increase the aoe and its the same thing. The more people use it the more it becomes unbalanced, even without any changes to its current form. Its silly but its the way it works.--Justice 02:52, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Ridiculous Skill
This skill is a mockery of necromancer skills. You may compare it to nuking skills but it's on a different fail level of its own. Most other AoE lasts for a certain amount of time dealing damage over second that way multiple foes can get damaged running through it. Feast of Corruption is a one time attack every 20 seconds. 22 if you count the slow cast. Most Pve monsters are not grouped in such a way for this to work well. With the exception of elite missions or area where a perma can round them up. Necromancers shouldn't have to use 30 energy for a decent spike. (15 off suffering and 15 for FoC) This is a bigger joke for PvP. No team with a brain stands that close together to be spiked. A 2 second cast for a "spike" skill that can be so easily interupted is not even funny. For an elite, this skill has few practical uses and ,in my opinion, is useless for most of Guild Wars.The Emmisary 22:24, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * It's actually used in a few select teams. -- -Ch  ao  s-   15:00, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

I mentioned that. Read it again --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:The Emmisary (talk).
 * There are more useless skills on GW. And this skill is neat if you got a prepared team. For example, you can easily wipe an area using 4 people: Warrior tank (Permas are zzz), bonder, Battery necro and FoC necro. Try it out, it's fun.  Titani [[image:User Titani Ertan Sig2.jpg|19x19px]]  Ertan  { {Snappy the Turtle}} 18:29, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * So you don't think this makes a good elite for monks? Backsword 18:34, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Best frickin Monk skill I know  Titani [[image:User Titani Ertan Sig2.jpg|19x19px]]  Ertan  { {Snappy the Turtle}} 18:38, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The icon is pretty sweet, if nothing else. --Jette  [[Image:User_Jette_awesome.png|19px]] 18:56, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Signet of capture
It seems to me on Selvetarms page that the drider boss has this skill, is there any reason it is not capturable. If it is it should be added to the list MrPaladin  &dagger;  talk 13:58, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Selvetarm is a boss-like foe, like all of the end-of-dungeon monsters. You can't cap skills from BLFs. -- Hong 14:01, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
 * ahh that explains it... thanks... just saw the word boss and my mind switched off :) MrPaladin  &dagger;  talk 14:02, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Oh FoC!
It always tickled me that its initials sound like that one word that means that one sweaty activity which puts you in a state of ecstasy, usually.. Or a word of dire screw up, something... I've lost interest now. -/- Discuss 15:39, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * o.o The way you described that first line just made me horny D:-- Unending fear  User Unendingfear Gw2flyingmountsiglol.png 16:09, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd like to know what goes through your head, Discuss, when you see Power Shot. Mr J 16:15, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Nothing too interesting, it sounds like an condensed energy drink.. or PS like in letters. -/- Discuss 16:20, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * This is what I think of >.> [[File:Ray of Judgment.jpg]]-- Unending fear  User Unendingfear Gw2flyingmountsiglol.png 16:43, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

I just don't understand why this hasn't been split in PvP/PvE SamoK
 * Because besides UW/FoW caster speed clears, it's useless in both. Titani [[image:User Titani Ertan chrome.png|Uth]] Ertan  17:03, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
 * iirc some brave hexways have used it -- -Chaos- (talk) -- 20:57, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah... in Prophecies GvG before CoF. Titani [[image:User Titani Ertan chrome.png|Uth]] Ertan  15:25, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Please A NET BUFF THIS SKILL!!!