Talk:The Last Day Dawns (Hard mode)

Lol 400+ damage flame bursts. What does Anet want from us, to run from ToA for this crap? In 45 minutes I could do the bounty + mission and get a gold coin. Sure, no 10k, but no time wasted trying to get together a group and a runner for this thing. 174.108.82.105 05:04, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I hurd monks were gud. -- Konig / talk 05:16, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
 * You're not clever. 174.108.82.105 05:27, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh really? (And for good measure)-- Konig / talk 05:52, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
 * It's pretty clear you're just spouting nonsensical ways to do things. If you'd actually done the quest, you'd realize what the issue is. Recommending junk makes it obvious you haven't even tried it. 174.108.82.105 17:21, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Soutl twist + shelter makes those flame bursts pretty manageable. I had an air ele, a healing monk, SoS rit, and ST rit. It was challenging, and Adelbern's allies seem to die in the first wave no matter what you do, but it's definitely doable with 3 heroes. Manifold [[Image:User_Manifold_Neptune.jpg|19px]] 17:34, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I believe it's also possible to go around (easiest heading from Serenity Temple to catch that rez shrine to the south) and you'll be able to kill 3 Armageddon Lords without ever making Adelbern spawn - the 4th can be attacked as Adelbern spawns and heads to it, so if you're good you may kill most of its group before Adelbern's group aggros, and then you just have one group with Adelbern. -- Konig / talk 17:55, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I appreciate the actual help now. Just finished it a bit before re-reading this discussion page, as we managed it with 3 real players and a smite hero. Much simpler with other players. No gimmicks or anything, just an SoS necro, a simple monk, a pious renewal derv, and a smite hero. Tryptophan does more good making charr hunters unable to nuke effectively than it does slowing the armageddon lords. 174.108.82.105 18:21, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Tips?
Any tips for a warrior? I've tried roughly 30 times over the space of 4 hours and each one fucks up at the moment... seems best success rate so far is with Technobabble on the player bar to daze the nuker charr/titan lords. According to a friend the npcs that aren't the king are going to die anyway (most initial spawns will have at least one Flame Wielder - resulting in a very quick wipe of the monk npc and two warriors). I tried going around the back but makes fuckall difference and wastes half an hour getting there -.- -- Chieftain  Alex 16:57, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Use a Paragon =P. [[Image:User Anvil_God_AsuraSignature.jpg|15px]] Anvi God  zzz...  20:19, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd suggest going /Me with a Mantra of Frost and bringing a rit/ranger SoS with Winter (Armor of Unfeeling will probably help the rit) - for the reasons stated on the page (cold damage from NPCs). Except for the Rt/R hero, have everyone else go /Me with Mantra of Frost (helps with energy and defense!). I'd also suggest leaving from Serenity Temple when heading around back (it's faster). I'd also suggest lots and lots of party-wide dp removal... @ the "perhaps too challenging" in the summary you had - these quests were made for the hard-core among hard-core folks, made to be non-walk-in-the-park even with a conset (unlike everything else). Also purely optional (shame Anet doesn't account for the fact that there's dozens of non-hardcore completionists). -- Konig / talk 20:10, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Since when do "challenging HM quests" include quests that are impossible unless you are the most hard core of hard core? And for that kind of a reward? "Its for the challenge dur dur dur" no.... -- Magamdy 16:15, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm telling you, a pro emo bonder does the job, make sure to spread out so titan smash doesnt strip whole party
 * Use spirits. Managed to get them done with 3 Spirit Heroes (an SoS, a Soul Twisting, and a Signet of Ghostly Might), no cons, no summoning stones. It doesn't matter what profession you're playing if you're doing that, to be honest. Was almost frustrating having it go so smoothly after doing every other possible combination of things before that and wasting more than an hour failing repeatedly. 99.237.250.170 20:36, 7 July 2011 (UTC)