Talk:Hidden Treasure

Bogroot Growths
~ Zero rogue x 06:12, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) 141 Gold
 * 2) 200 Gold
 * 3) 124 Gold

Sepulchre of Dragrimmar
--Thervold 18:17, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) one didn't appear (said treasure was revealed, but no chest appeared)
 * 2) random gold
 * 3) random gold
 * 4) Bolt of Linen

MithranArkanere 01:48, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) Didn't appear.
 * 2) 140gold
 * 3) 157gold
 * 4) 143gold


 * Yes, the first one always fails. Presumably a mistake in placement. Backsword 09:49, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Cathedral of Flames
I had better luck than usual... Eldin 21:49, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) ~40 gold
 * 2) ~60 gold
 * 3) Diamond
 * 4) Sapphire
 * 5) Did not appear.
 * 6) Diamond
 * 7) ~160 gold
 * 8) Sapphire
 * Thats 4k that I got for nothing :D Woot for Sapphire! --[[Image:Amethyst Aegis.png|19px]]Exalted Amethyst  12:49, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Arachni's Haunt
-- bcstingg (talk • contribs) 03:31, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) 169 Gold
 * 2) 167 Gold
 * 3) 130 Gold

Random or not?
Has anyone tested whether hidden treasures spawn randomly or whether they are always at the same spot? Also, the info on treasures should go on the individual dungeon page, fits better there and too much info for one page anyway. --Xeeron 13:55, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Same spot. That's how the chest above can fall through the floor every time. Backsword 09:48, 4 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Based on the locations given and what is actually found, it seems the drops are randomized among a number of fixed locations.  So while the locations for a possible treasure spawn are fixed, the probability that a given location will actually spawn is not.   Some locations always seem to spawn (like ally spawns), others (like loot) do not.  For example, if Allies = number of ally spawns, and the Treasures = number of treasure spawns, then the total number of spawn locations will be:


 * Allies + (Treasures + N) = Total Number of Locations, where N = some number of surplus locations not actually used per run, but a surplus only applied to treasures and not allies. "N" appears to be a fairly small number, so most of the stated locations should spawn, but you may find some locations that have not been mentioned yet. I have posted a few new ones myself. --Rpger 00:22, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

One use only?
Are these one use only? I fif the Gem (gem / talk) 16:32, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * the spots are fixed, doesnt always appear though (KILL MementoMori 04:17, 18 March 2009 (UTC))

New drops
With the update today, these seem to drop lockpicks and dungeon maps in normal mode.

Rare Crafting Materials
Checklist (cross out everything observed)
 * Amber Chunk
 * Bolt of Damask
 * Bolt of Linen
 * Bolt of Silk
 * Deldrimor Steel Ingot
 * Diamond
 * Elonian Leather Square
 * Fur Square
 * Glob of Ectoplasm
 * Jadeite Shard
 * Leather Square
 * Lump of Charcoal
 * Monstrous Claw
 * Monstrous Eye
 * Monstrous Fang
 * Obsidian Shard
 * Onyx Gemstone
 * Roll of Parchment
 * Roll of Vellum
 * Ruby
 * Sapphire
 * Spiritwood Plank
 * Steel Ingot
 * Tempered Glass Vial
 * Vial of Ink

I was helping a guildie do a dungeon and uncovered a Hidden Treasure that yielded for her an Onyx Gemstone, which I thought was worthy of mention. Maybe they can drop Rubies and Ectos, too? ;) --Cjad the Nord 16:41, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I saw a diamond drop once. Brownspank 15:24, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * They drop rubies (pre update). Never saw an ecto though. --Xeeron 17:00, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I've added a checklist. I suspect that they can drop everything except amber, clay, ectoplasm, jadeite and obsidian. -- Gordon Ecker 07:09, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I haven't paid attention to HM farming (except that they drop materials more often in HM) these chests, but i took the liberty of scratching off materials I have gotten from them in normal (which, for the record, is almost everything. Yay for farming Cathedral of Flames 300 times for FoW armor). Mesodreth Blackwing 23:46, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Found a Monstrous Fang in NM --Mic Zvpunry 18:30, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I got a Bolt of Damask once in CoF on HM Swift Aura
 * They're supposed to be crossed off if they drop, I've added a note. -- [[Image:User Gordon Ecker sig.png]] Gordon Ecker (talk) 06:49, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Better drops in Hard Mode?
Are the drops from these Hidden Treasures better in Hard Mode? Perhaps there should be a seperate research table to see the differences between NM and HM treasures. kaheiyeh 09:45, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure they are better in Hard Mode. In a dungeon run on NM, I contantly got 50s and 60s from them, whereas in HM I got 150+, maps, lockpicks and even an onyx. Ooooze~ Lowerletters 18:04, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Only money increases in Hard Mode, material drops seem to be the same (i've gotten a couple of Ruby's in NM too) (KILL MementoMori 19:04, 17 May 2009 (UTC))

Dialogue
I recently got a Dungeon Map, and if i remember right, the treasure "said" something diffrent than "you take what was hidden". —Zerpha The Improver 16:46, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Glitch on first treasure in Cathedral of Flames
On the third level right outside of the entrance usually there is a marker revealed when using Light of Deldrimor, yet when I cast again to bring up the box it gives the message that the LoD has revealed it but the chest never spawns. 118.92.28.39 02:34, 15 January 2008 (UTC)


 * On a run today, I heard a rumor that the chest is more likely to bug if you don't kill the monsters near it. Noelahg 23:35, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Random rare item?
In this edit, an unregistered editor added "random rare item" to the list of possible drops. Has anyone seen one of these drop anything besides gold, cash or rare crafting materials? If not, that entry should be removed. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 07:59, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe he/she confused these chests to treasures found in NF campaign. I don't recall ever getting any rare items from Hidden Treasures. Mediggo 08:33, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

NPC or Interactive object?
I have been doing lots of CoF runs lately...And I have been seeing that the hidden treasures are considered NPC, as it gives me some messages such as "You cannot attack (invulnerability)" "im Talking to Hidden Treasure!" I posted this as an anormally.--Calerouxz 22:50, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Happens with Xunlai Chests too. Mith[[Image:User MithranArkanere Star.png]]Talk 00:04, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

High end chest?
I'm assuming they don't, but do these count as high end chests (ie count towards treasure title)? Chibot2000 23:38, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * They don't. Only chests with a key cost of 600 or higher (or locked chests that require a lockpick) count towards Treasure Hunter title track. --Lhoj 14:02, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Skepticism
Perhaps I'm being overly skeptical, but I have some trouble believing that Amber, Jade, Ectoplasm, and Obsidian drop from Hidden Treasures. Could someone confirm that these materials do in fact drop? --Irgendwer 09:12, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure Amber and Jade drop, but I don't believe for a second that Ectoplasm and Obby Shards do.--User Oneshot O.JPG neshot.      moo.  09:54, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Agreed, I've done every dungeon dozens of times, always carrying LoD, and never ever saw one dropping neither for me nor to my partymates. This must be proved with a screenshot or at least, be confirmed by a bunch of trustworthy players. --Lhoj 10:20, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I just reviewed the history page and found that a lot of very rare matereial were added on dec. 30th 2009. I'm calling vandalism on this one and reverting his changes. Thank's for your vigilance ;) --Manassas  [[File: User Manassas Mannysig.png]] 10:29, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Ty for your work reviewing all the history. I'm not saying that something is false just because I haven't seen it happening, but some things seem so weird that it's hard to believe it if there's no proof of it :) --Lhoj 10:41, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * You seem to be living in those dungeons. Could you try to confirm if Elonian Leather squares drop from them (I suspect they do and you didn't include them in your exclusion note). --Manassas  [[File: User Manassas Mannysig.png]] 11:07, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure they do, though I have no screenies to prove it. I play very little now, and when I do I try to finish up some titles (such as lucky, wisdom..) so I haven't been into a dungeon for a while, but I'll try to get it confirmed --Lhoj 11:33, 23 June 2010 (UTC)