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Desu
If any more discussion should be needed... - Y0_ ich_halt  17:24, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * nead moar desu &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 23:16, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
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 * unyuu! :D &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 12:08, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * they should've translated that with "yum" :P - Y0_ ich_halt  [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 12:37, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * wasn't unyuu some expression hina used to say every now and then, that actually doesn't make sense, but she used as name for these rice sweeties? &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 13:44, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * afaik it's an onomatopoeia for yummy things. it's as if you'd say "LOOK IT'S A MOO!" xD - Y0_ ich_halt  [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 14:07, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * ahh i didn't know that. but i can actually remember that she said that out of the blue sometimes without refering to yummy things... :/ &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 14:28, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * i could imagine using it while pondering. just like normal ppl would say "eto" or whatever they prefer maybe hina likes unyuu xD or of course i'm totally mistaken right now because this is all what i think i remember ;) - Y0_ ich_halt  [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 14:36, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * anyways, i think she was even cooler than desu-suiseiseki ^-^ &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 14:55, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * my favorite char is souseiseki :P - Y0_ ich_halt  [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 15:03, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

 Spoiler alert: The following text contains spoilers relating to the story of Rozen Maiden.
 * omg spoiler so we've chosen of all dolls the two as our favorites that weren't restored to life at the end of the anime ;.; /spoiler &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 15:40, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * ya, it's a shame their rosae mysticae were stolen by suigintou. - Y0_ ich_halt  [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 16:08, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * wasn't the actual reason why they couldn't be retrieved because they are the only dolls who were not killed by barasuishou, the "fake doll" from Rozen's apprentice? 18:46 ^^ Yet suigintou was repaired at the beginning of rozen maiden träumend despite being defeated by shinku, that's a strange contradiction... And at the end of rozen maiden träumend ep12 (19:55) you can shortly see "the rabbit" with their rosa mysticae...there are many open questions left; it's a really strange ending O.o &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 19:43, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * that's exactly what i said. suigintou stole their rosae, and since she's a legal member of the alice game they couldn't be retrieved. suigintou herself could be resurrected because shinku hadn't took her rosa after defeating her. there wasn't anything unclear for me. the only question that's left for me is: what/where's the real seventh rozen maiden? and with that, why was it known barasuishou would be the seventh as if she were really one of their sisters? - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 20:03, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

but shinku didn't take hinaichigo's rosa either when she defeated her in the early begginig of rozen maiden. shinku said Rozen would have cut the tie that provided Hina indirectly with Jun's energy, and for that reason she "felt asleep" and her rosa went to shinku. barasuishou was believed to be the seventh doll because she introduced herself as such to shinku in one of the first episodes of träumend. this rabbit is stranger to me, because he also apparently supports rozen's apprentice for some reason. The "real" seventh doll's name is only mentioned in the manga (i looked that up in wikipedia :P), though you can see her for a few seconds in the anime with the rabbit as well. &mdash;Zerpha The Improver 20:22, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * didn't they talk like they always knew the seventh doll's name was barasuishou? what exactly are you trying to say about hina? i don't really get your point. o.o - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 21:19, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * maybe you forgot about that part, but shinku tried to hide the message about the seventh doll at first, but then she told the others after souseiseki said to her that she has to tell it if her secret was about the alice game. Now to the hina-issue again^^: her and souseiseki are the only two dolls that couldn't return to normal. you said that'd be because suigintou stole their rosa. but she only stole the rosa of souseiseki. hina lost the alice game to shinku in one of the first episodes of rozen maiden when she broke the tie between her and tomoe in order to save her life. shinku didn't take her rosa; and provided hina with her energy which she again tapped from jun, making jun indirectly the medium of hina. In rozen maiden träumend ep10, hina gets tired because their father breaks - according to shinku, see 8:15 onwards - the tie between her and hina. because of that, hina didn't get any new energy, and felt asleep. her rosa then went to shinku, as she once won the fight. (she was also still keeping hina's rosa when she gets killed by bara, though that doesn't make any difference.) Finally, the conflicting point: shinku didn't take hina's rosa mystica, but unlike suigintou, Rozen didn't/couldn't return her, though. (On the other side, suigintou is a survivalist anyways: She gets raped three times. The first time - in the ouverture - when she gets torn apart by souseiseki, she was alive without a rosa, which is normally impossible. Shinku assumed that the reason for this were her strong feelings towards the father.) sorry for this wall of text, lol. i hope you understood this time what i was trying to point out :P &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 22:36, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Did you really need to do that? lol couldn't you of just typed it in german? &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 22:43, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * this one is the savest way, isn't it? :P oh btw@yo maybe it's also because suigintou didn't have a medium and couldn't lose a tie with a ring at the time she was defeated by shinku, that could be the reason of the contradiction...maybe^^ oh yeah, and if you want to stop me right now with this, i'll do so :P &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 22:57, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * -- Wolf [[Image:User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png|19px| ]] 23:04, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * ;) &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 23:12, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Maybe I should have started by asking why things where white XD. -- Wolf  [[Image:User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png|19px| ]] 23:18, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * @zerpha: no, i do remember the part of shinku trying to hide it. my problem is, didn't she only try to hide the fact that bara appeared, but regardless they had always known the name would be barasuishou? about the other issue, suigintou was killed by barasuishou and her rosa went to shinku, so she could be retrieved. souseiseki was killed by suigintou so she couldn't. hina was defeated by shinku so she couldn't be retrieved either. the important point isn't where their rosa went but who they were defeated by. and as long as that one's a legal member of the alice game, the rosa stays where it went. at least that would explain it :P - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 15:17, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * At least i can't remember that they reacted as if they always knew her name. And about the other thing: I know that it's important who killed them rather than where their rosa went. My point was that suigintu lost the alice game to shinku at the end of rozen maiden, yet she became retrieved at the beginning of rozen maiden träumend despite having been defeated by shinku, a legal member. On the other side, she didn't have a medium at this time, unlike souseiseki and hina at the time they got defeated. &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 13:43, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * but suigintou was defeated by barasuishou, not shinku o.O 3:36 onwards - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 13:56, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * yeah, i'm aware of that, but that's not what i'm refering to.^^ As i said somewhere above, suigintou was raped three times, once in each season: rozen maiden (ep 12;10:52 ), rozen maiden traumend (ep12; 3:34, as you said) and rozen maiden ouverture (ep2; 12:33). The first time she gets raped (or rather the second time if you follow the timeline) - in rozen maiden, the first season, shinku defeated her, yet she was returned to life somewhere in rozen maiden träumend. In episode6, she remembers that when she meets with bara (12:49), and bara states that only "their father" could repair broken dolls, and that it was done for the alice game... (btw, Shinku asks at 20:15 for bara's name) &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 17:16, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * when shinku asked her name she didn't even think of her as a rozen maiden doll yet afaik. i haven't watched ouverture yet, but in first season suigintou is pwned by jun. lookie 10:47 - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 17:41, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * now you mention it, it could possibly really have been jun, that would explain it all. though suigintou states in träumend episode6 that it was shinku who turned her into junk, and shinku also blames herself for her death in the first episode. &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 17:48, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * maybe the alice game realtime engine thought otherwise :P - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 18:10, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * maybe^^ &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 18:48, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * i just watched overture. suigintou didn't even get pwned there after she got her rosa mystica :)> - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 19:18, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * hehe^^ good idea concerning the spoiler tag btw! xD you had to remove lots of span tags &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 19:59, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

hey can you help me find an image...
Remember you said something about "We will save the shit out of you"? Well, I need help finding that image xD. Also my computer "my main one" is in the shop getting fixed and I start school tomorow =[ Blood [[Image:User Blood234 Blood sig icon arg.png|19px|User talk:Blood234|]] 18:47, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * i looked for it where i orginally found it: fukung.net, but it's not tagged as it seems. looks like i have to browse through my 500 1000 files folder of fun stuff... - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 18:49, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * found it. how do you want it? upload it here and delete right after? no, that would be wiki misuse... rapidshit? - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 19:08, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * "upload it here and delete right after?" <_< :D poke | talk 19:31, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Lol, well if you can find GFDL that would be great. and that didn't entirely make sence xD. Blood [[Image:User Blood234 Blood sig icon arg.png|19px|User talk:Blood234|]] 05:12, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * i'm pretty sure it's not GFDL, and what didn't make sense? also, - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 12:00, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * actually it is, it was on their copywrite page. You can double check but it says it was a PD image which is compadible, right? Blood [[Image:User Blood234 Blood sig icon arg.png|19px|User talk:Blood234|]] 17:24, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * idk - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 19:50, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Ritter ^^
Sooo...when? =D LunarEffect  19:35, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * uuh... well, kinda forgot about that completely xD since this is my last holiday week, we should either do it this week or some weekend. i saw i can just take a train right from here to stuttgart and then keep going until waldenbuch with one single ticket, so it's not even gonna be expensive (12 euro to be exact). i'd be free thursday or friday, if that's possible :) - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 19:58, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * huh? rl role playing? :P poke | talk 20:02, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * ya, we're doing "Ritter Sport" xD - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 20:05, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * As in...CHOCOLATE! =D I'll find out if I've got time by tomorrow evening. I'll keep you updated ^^ LunarEffect [[Image:User_LunarEffect_Moon.png]] 21:19, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * eh? Was macht ihr o.O? poke | talk 00:06, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Ich weiss nicht. Du hast mich. (feel free to correct my German if it's wrong.) -- Wolf [[Image:User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png|19px| ]] 04:35, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * ...was "du hast mich" supposed to mean "you got me"? i don't think there's an equal expression for that in german, at least i can't think of one. wir gehn zur ritter-sport-fabrik :) normalerweise macht man das an unserer schule mindestens einmal als exkursion, aber unsere klasse hatte noch nie die ehre. darum hab ich beschlossen einfach selber zu gehen, und da er in der, nun ja, nähe wohnt und trotzdem seit ewigkeiten nimmer drin war... ^^ - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 11:12, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Coole Sache ^^ Wenn das nicht so weit wäre, würd ich mir mein Ritter Sport Freund Shirt anziehen und mitkommen :P poke | talk 12:32, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I want one of those shirts too :( And visiting that factory doesn't sound too bad either.. - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 13:29, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I have two! (one Marzipan and one Nougat) :D poke | talk 14:54, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Pics! - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 15:49, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * exactly. pics or they don't exist. (also, that would make a great excuse for me uploading a "we'll free the shit out of you"-pic :P) - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 16:30, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) also, lunar, maybe we should meet in icq or somewhere to exchange phone numbers, that would make this much easier :) - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> 16:31, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note to self: Make a picture of your shirts and upload them.. poke | talk 16:48, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I know you have a camera. Use it. - anja  [[Image:User Anja Astor sig icon.png|talk]] 17:18, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

My German sucks guys XD I have this user box for a reason: Only been through one year of german, so my vocabulary is extremely lacking XD Oh, and that's correct right? -- Wolf  22:30, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Hehe, you should possibly better use the word "Benutzer" rather than "Verbraucher" for "user", as "Verbraucher" merely refers to "consumer". &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 23:26, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * My school never did something like that. D: But we went to a brewery with our chemistry teacher once, that was fun^^ There wasn't any chocolate to taste, or t-shirts offered for sale, but some beer and pretzels :P (lol at this germanized word^^)  &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 23:26, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * woul've been fun. our class only visited the Audi Forum... o.O - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 12:00, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm seriously jealous, that sounds so extremely interesting. &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 12:25, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Haha, this grew into more than I expected. I was scrolling down the page looking for the topic with three replies...and then this oo". Anyway...this week is a bit full for me. I guess a weekend (not this or next weekend xD) would be better...or we could wait until the "Herbstferien" ^^. I haven't used ICQ in years. I'll have to dig up my account lols. LunarEffect [[Image:User_LunarEffect_Moon.png]] 20:18, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * make a new one :P we could also use e-mail or anything else. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 15:17, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

First. ..
new section on this page! No fun YO &mdash; Seru    Talk 20:43, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * i can't archive a discussion that's waiting for at least two links to pictures :P - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 20:51, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * True &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 20:53, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm
Any idea why the header here is like that? (last topic) &mdash; Wolf  23:27, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * If you're referring to how the first topic doesn't start until after the archive box, it's because the discussion is inside a table and the archive box table is outside. -- Gordon Ecker 01:06, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * No, look at the last topic. The [edit] is under the line for the topic name. &mdash; Wolf  [[Image:User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png|19px| ]] 01:12, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I see it now. The anchor doesn't work in k-meleon or IE6, which is probably related. -- Gordon Ecker 01:50, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * According to Wikipedia's Help:Section page, black headings breaking anchors and TOCs is a known issue, I suspect that this is a related bug. Using rather than a regular space works. -- Gordon Ecker 02:00, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * looks fixed. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 15:17, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Hey
Long time no chat, sorta. lol &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  02:34, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * ya xD you need to get icq :P - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 15:17, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * No one uses ICQ here.. It's all WLM where I live. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  23:30, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * what's wlm? - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 08:46, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Probably Windows Live Messenger, formerly known as MSN Messenger. -- Gordon Ecker 09:01, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * ah, they just renamed it to get rid of the virus trade platform image? - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 09:52, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Nah, I'm pretty sure they changed the name when they created live.com &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  17:01, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Userbox with time stuck?
Hi Y0 ;) I have added this userbox with the clock to my page. Mine says: "This user lives in The Netherlands (UTC+2) where it is currently 11:39 (CEST)." And is kinda stuck on that...It has been ginving the same time whole day. Did I do something wrong? -- <font color="#009292">Pepper <font color="#009292"> - Dewdrop talk  22:14, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * when that clock is wrong, it's most likely a cache issue. to solve it, press ctrl+F5. not sure if that works in ie, if it doesn't, click the clock next to your user name at the top. when the page is reloaded the box should also give the right time again. it works for me, so tell me if the problem is still there for you. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 22:18, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * You could use the time template but that uncaches the whole page. &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 00:08, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yay thx alot, that solved the problem. Both options given by Y0 did actually, but I like clicking the clock on top of the page the most ^^ (and I think I just leave it with that and not go change the userbox - cuz I like it better when it's stolen borrowed x] -- [[Image:User_Dewdrop_Sig.png|User_talk:Dewdrop|19px]]<font color="#009292">Pepper <font color="#009292"> - Dewdrop talk  13:19, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Anker-Funktion?
Servus, Ich arbeite in letzter Zeit wieder etwas an meiner Page und wollte jetzt mal was neues ausprobieren. Das ganze könnte ich mit Ankern wesentlich übersichtlicher gestalten. Jetzt weiß ich aber ehrlich gesagt nicht, ob man bei Wiki sowas einsetzen kann. Hab auch schon ein wenig in den FAQs rumgeblättert aber leider nix gefunden. Kannst du mir dies bezüglich weiterhelfen?

mfg: --Maria Murtor 17:07, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Meinst du Anker-Links? Die kannst du normal mit  ansprechen. Zum Erstellen von Ankern musst du leider den Umweg über Überschriften nehmen, da entspricht dann der Überschriftentitel dem Ankername (solange der eine bestimmte Länge nicht überschreitet). Die Überschriften kannst du dann z.B. über   ausblenden. Zudem bietet es sich dann an, das automatische Inhaltsverzeichnis über   zu deaktivieren. poke | talk 17:35, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * problem gelöst schätz ich mal. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 19:50, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Jepp Dankeschön :-) --Maria Murtor 23:12, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Friendly Rocket Chess
"[...] i.e. "friendly fire" is disabled)." lol. I didn't know you can play a Counter Strike simulation with a simple chess set. :P &mdash;Zerpha The Improver 20:21, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * friendly fire is no cs term o.O it's used everywhere if there's a possibility to hurt allies. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 20:27, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * wiki: "Friendly fire or non-hostile fire, a term originally adopted by the United States military, refers to fire from one's own side or allied forces, as opposed to fire coming from enemy forces." :P - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 20:28, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * oops, ok nvmd then, it's just that i never heard of this term outside of cs :P &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 21:01, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * not at all? have you ever played anything else? o.O - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 21:10, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * yes :P other KILLERSPIELE  (for those who don't know what it means: that's a negative paraphrase made up by politicians for violent video games, most often shooters)  i played so far are Call of Duty and Battlefront :P But i mainly play them on LANs only. &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 13:18, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * your definition is wrong. tetris is a killerspiel, too! - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 13:41, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * i'm still serarching for the violont factor in arranging blocks in a row. :O &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 14:07, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * and worms, too. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 14:09, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * ahh...i had good times with Worms Armageddon. That was fun :D &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 14:16, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * it's brutal and it's not even USK 18! - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 14:19, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * HAAAA-LA-LUJIAAAA! *shit blows up*. Holy hand grenades ftw. -- NUKLEAR  [[Image:User NuclearVII signature 3.jpg|19x19px]] IIV  15:11, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * One word: Sheep! --Xeeron 15:16, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * banana. and what are you doing here, xeeron? finally back? :D - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 15:18, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Holy hand grenades? --[[Image:User PoA Sig.png|Talk]] Antioch 15:20, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * yup, worms. those were always fun, although i like the insta-kill cluster granade more. in case you didn't know, in worms 2 if you placed a cluster granade on a worm's head, all clusters would detonate immediately and kill the worm regardless of current health. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 15:22, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * when talking about the best weapon, the concrete donkey is by far the best one. seriously, that thing's seriously OP in Worms Armageddon :D And the poor mole is too weak compared to super sheep, banana, mad cows or the holy hand grenade. (even a regular sheep is better than a mole imo) &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 19:56, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * yeh, some weaps were just useless. though there was stuff that could keep up with the donkey, other superweaps afterall. I didn't like armageddon that much, but stuff like the pandora bullet (or whatever it was called) was really nice. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 16:17, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * i liked it^^ you are talking about this chasing bullet with "rainbow effects", right? I think the dunkey is the best one, though, as you could often kill about three worms at once and eventually without killing one of yours. &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 16:28, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * that one, yes. i loved it, but it was hard to get to the other side of the resulting gap if you hadn't activated unlimited ninja rope. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 16:56, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * unfortunately the bullet sometimes stuttered on a point and exploded without finding getting to the target i had chosen when i used it. my friends and me most often played everything unlimited except for the donkey. You always use jetpack rather than rope then (mad cows + jetpack ftw), but ninja robe was the weapon that required most skill in the game imo. i can remember a tricky mission with it^^ &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 18:45, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) i love it. you can do all kinds of really fun stuff with it. ever used the swing power to give your granade a good throw range? :D - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> 18:51, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * i can only remember that you could cause some sort of vibration by making it as short as possible and pusing in to one direction. you could even hurt your worm with that afair. &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 20:52, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * you can drop granades while hanging on the rope, just like dynamites. they will fall down vertically, but if you have a nice swing it's just like throwing them :D and what sort of vibration? o.O - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 21:10, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * ah yes you're right. About that "vibration", i coincendially found a video on youtube that's shortly showing it. (0:05 and 0:08) &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 21:15, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * oh btw: O.O &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 21:18, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * that's just if you are already swinging and then make it very short, similarily to a rubber ball when it jumps only some mm. you could hurt your worm if fall damage was on, because this swinging caused massive throw power if you dropped the ninja rope. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 21:26, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * yeah, i knew that it was caused by fall damage; but we actually always had it active as it's more interesting with it^^ &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 21:34, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Hep me...
Ok, I don't know what's wrong. User:Lancy1214/Template/Userpage heading2 variable seems to not function. Can you take a look at it please? -- Wyn 00:55, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * rofl, i found it by coincidence. when i was testing her inclusion, i c+p'd the part for heading1, then replaced all 1s in the copy with 2s (to reproduce the code for heading2 from the assumably working heading1 code). but instead of fixing, heading3 now didn't show either. solution: the comment end tag after |content1= had a space between -- and >. therefore, the whole heading2=... part was commented out :D - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 09:42, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, so it was my bad.. I just couldn't see it/find it, and needed a fresh set of eyes to look at it before I pulled all my hair out. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 09:44, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

ecs
About half an hour later? O.o Some of your tabs had fallen into oblivion, huh? xD &mdash;Zerpha The Improver 13:28, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * ya... everytime i tried to save i was eced, and after the fourth time the tab took long to load so i went browsing other sites in the meantime... i think it was loaded after a minute, but, yeh xD - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 13:32, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * i see^^ &mdash;Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 15:57, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Chess Tournament
See who you are playing against. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  03:25, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * gl hf ;) [[Image:User Why Are We Fighting BlackRose.jpg|Talk]]<font color="#808080">Why 12:10, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * same to you ^^ - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 14:39, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

wieeee
pls give some feedback on my balance page Lilondra   *poke*  17:49, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * tl;dr until now. maybe tomorrow if i actually get time for something else than school. fckn abitur is already getting me up to 230. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 16:51, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Gaile Gray Impersonator
Most likely, one of the characters in the username was not actually a letter, but rather a unicode symbol for something else; it's possible the "i" in "Gaile" was really the unicode symbol for the complex number "i." *Defiant Elements*  +talk  21:13, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * seems it was. apperantly i confused something when c+ping, since after checking again (c+p the i from real gaile to imposter) it actually turned red link. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 21:20, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Assault Enchantments
"Change to: Elite Skill. Removes all enchantments. Deals 10...21...25 damage for each enchantment removed. Must follow a dual attack." I think you should add a max, like (max +50) such as Eremite's Attack, comes to mind. And a few others.-  Vanguard  21:57, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * hmm, got a point. i'll use a pretty high limit, though, since it's already hard enough to get to assault. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 17:46, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Hammerfall Fan
Ever seen this? I found it to be rather....creative. --  Wandering   Traveler  22:53, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * wow that was epic &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 22:57, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * here's my account page. check my favorites page 2, line 3. been quite a while since i added it ^^ - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 12:44, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Epic ^^. Just makin' sure :P. --[[Image:User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png|19px]]  Wandering   Traveler  13:14, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * make sure you add me as a friend if you have a youtube acc ^^ - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.jpg|18px]] 13:32, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh yes! You must see the crazy epic videos I have made! :D --[[Image:User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png|19px]]  Wandering   Traveler  19:24, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

You are an oxymoron
How can a seasoned, intelligent and capable player so often be that insulting and narrow-minded as you are? I mean, I respect your knowledge and PvP experience but sometimes (and sometimes very often) it seems that you are just another PvE hater. Please, clarify my view. Noctarch 00:16, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't call him insulting well nnot to me, he's funny. As for PvE, YO you gots some explainings to do-s! -- <font color="#CC0000">Blood [[Image:User Blood234 Blood sig .JPG|19px|]] <font color="#CC0000">contribs  00:27, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Funny people can be unfair as well. And if you call "PvE. Who cares about PvE and balance anyway"* funny I for myself don't get why. Noctarch 00:54, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, to me it sounds' like he was being what I call a "smart-ass" which means he was trying to make a smart joke about something that really doesn't need it. As you said; " funny I for myself don't get why." *people have different sences of humer (get what I'm trying to say?) -- <font color="#CC0000">Blood [[Image:User Blood234 Blood sig .JPG|19px|]] <font color="#CC0000">contribs  01:29, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * *shrugs* I would let Y0 speak for himself lol. but PvE isn't balanced PvE is for drawing in new people to the game. &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 01:51, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree, I couldn't say it better then Seru. YO you got some explaining-s to do-s! -- <font color="#CC0000">Blood [[Image:User Blood234 Blood sig .JPG|19px|]] <font color="#CC0000">contribs  01:58, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, there are some people who play it and don't use it as the commercial hook. They even gave in petitions to rethink about the Ursan Blessing if they were fun and not success oriented. I don't call it the more important of the two parts (nor do I call PvP to fit that role). But I agree, he should speak for himself. Noctarch 02:27, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Just an FYI Noctarch be careful not to violate NPA here &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 02:31, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * With "speak for himself" I only mean that I wish he could explain his attitude towards one half of the game to me - nothing else. And if that what I posted until now is any step against the NPA I have to delete once more an account of mine. Noctarch 02:34, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I dont believe it is but just be careful you don't &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 02:40, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) what are you referring to anyway? o.O (didn't find any rant or user box that would match this except maybe for the pvp player one) - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> 10:05, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Maybe, misinterpretation. But I was trolling traveling skill talk pages and found a comment as such. I think (my mind's wrecked up with some other impressions, too) there was another statement like that somewhere else. Maybe, I'll be judged for my behaviour..Noctarch 10:22, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * ah, aggressive refrain :D if that comment at the top here was supposed to be a quote from there, please quote correctly: "PvE: who cares about that? AI won't focus (...)" the context should make clear "that" refers to "cracked armor", not pve, but i admit i could've worded it better. i don't particularly like pve, but if it were for balancing, i'd always try to find a solution that works in both pve and pve first. if i couldn't find any, i'd make it suited for pvp (with some exceptions like shadow form). - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.png|18px]] 11:02, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * We all seem to make mistakes. Me in particular. I thank you for pointing out what I so frankly asked for. Uh, and by the way, I care about that Cracked Armor thing. Some foes love to exploit the conditions (Mandragorae, certain Devourers), lesser Armor makes you the attraction of the monsters - especially with this SY stuff on each other party member - and finally you might've read that I H/H; heroes like to deplete their energy for nothing. Noctarch 11:37, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * i always H/Hed in pve, too. mostly because there's too many noobs without any idea there. idk, i didn't encounter any problems with my paragon. my monk heroes usually had enough energy to give me some prot if it got stripped (ya, even tanking with that 60AL >.> prot spirit+Spirit bond+SoA+spirits+cries+...) - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.png|18px]] 11:47, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Balance in PvE doesn't matter. When it comes to talking about skills and their pros and cons, bringing PvE into the discussion is very often a bad idea, since the cutoff for PvE is so low.
 * Pity he wasn't talking about PvE, this could have been a fun section. - Auron 12:00, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Y0 du halt, see it? That' what I looked for that is to say didn't want to encounter. May I risk to accuse Auron of what I wrongly accused you? Noctarch 12:02, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * @auron:take it to Talk:Player versus Environment and troll there :P maybe i'll join in. @noctarch: carefully read, auron did what he usually does: express other peoples' opinions (written or only thought) a bit more ...directly. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.png|18px]] 12:06, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * We're so narrow-minded, so narrow-minded. Let's liberate our minds, ya, liberate our minds. I am sorrow I never can resist the call for off-topiccing :( Noctarch 12:10, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * i disagree with it. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.png|18px]] 12:11, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Mere over-amplification of mine. I always see the bad in subjects and humanity. Nah, here you have the one to kick out; me. Noctarch 12:13, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * you don't get it, i disagreed with being an oxymoron :P - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.png|18px]] 12:14, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * THAT was just a pathetic hook to lure you into a discussion with me. Mwuhaha. Noctarch 12:16, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * i didn't eat the cake. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.png|18px]] 12:35, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * However, you made a cake for me! The cake of end-my-horrible-boredom, I thank you ;) Noctarch 12:47, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Psst
Psst &mdash;  Ebañy   Salmonderiel  17:41, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * sure, just pick your color. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.png|18px]] 18:10, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Black, but I won't be able to play for a short while, now. &mdash;[[Image:User_Ebany_Salmonderiel_Cake.jpg|Cake!|19px]]  Ebañy   Salmonderiel  18:12, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * no problem. i'll add the info and make my first move so you can jump in anytime. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.png|18px]] 18:13, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, just playing now. &mdash;[[Image:User_Ebany_Salmonderiel_Cake.jpg|Cake!|19px]]  Ebañy   Salmonderiel  18:27, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Back from dinner, making a move. &mdash; Ebañy   Salmonderiel  19:31, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, and Image:User Y0 ich halt sig trans.png [[Image:User Y0 ich halt sig trans.png|19px]] &mdash;[[Image:User_Ebany_Salmonderiel_Cake.jpg|Cake!|19px]]  Ebañy   Salmonderiel  20:22, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * (The red is a span background to show the transparency, not working quite so well) &mdash;[[Image:User_Ebany_Salmonderiel_Cake.jpg|Cake!|19px]]  Ebañy   Salmonderiel  20:22, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * compare [[Image:User Y0 ich halt sig trans.png|19px]] (yours) to [[Image:User Y0 ich halt sig.png|19px]] (mine). it's exactly the same. the problem is that images at this size are for some reason a bit taller than the line height for a span. also see: [[Image:User Blood234 Blood sig icon arg.png|19px]] [[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|19px]] [[Image:User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png|19px]] . - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.png|18px]] 20:34, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

as proof that it's really the span tag, here all the images inside a division: - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> 20:34, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

yours, too, btw: -- :) - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> 20:36, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Eh, oops. I saw the thing about inkscape on your page, and took your old sig image to do that with, didn't realise you'd already done it, two days ago.  &mdash;[[Image:User_Ebany_Salmonderiel_Cake.jpg|Cake!|19px]]  Ebañy   Salmonderiel  20:37, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, and here is yours inside another span: [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.png|18px]] &mdash;[[Image:User_Ebany_Salmonderiel_Cake.jpg|Cake!|19px]] Ebañy   Salmonderiel  20:39, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * i'm so not gonna add padding into my sig :P - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.png|18px]] 20:40, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Got so many moves worked out, I just need to see what your next one is/will be (i.e. I can't wait to start playing again) &mdash; Ebañy   Salmonderiel  09:45, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Need help with some maths
I'm trying to get a function that inputs xp and outputs your current level. This is what I have so far (where X is the xp, and L is the level): &mdash; Ebañy   Salmonderiel  16:16, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Umm i dont see a point with that lol :\ are you looking at raw exp or like exp per kill? &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 16:30, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * rofl, no. he's looking for User:Y0 ich halt/Templates/VirtualLvl. just that he (like me, too) doesn't want to describe the levels 1-23 each for its own, but with one single function. i tried it, too, and got to the result that it actually can't be put inside one function. how did you get to what you have now? - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.png|18px]] 16:34, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * /doh i get it now. I think anet might have curved it so the survivor is it 1337million exp. (So it wouldn't be a constant function but more of a piecewise possibly?) &mdash;  Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 16:41, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Ill see what it looks like in a graph see if i can get a nice equation &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 16:47, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * that's why i said it's not one function ;) from lvl 23 on it's linear, that's for sure, but before that... it's a function of growth that is neither linear nor logistic or exponential. that means the best you could do is define functions for each two or three steps. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.png|18px]] 16:54, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * @seru: i have a calculator that can automatically calculate rational functions and functions of growth only from coordinates given, and there is not a single one that even starts at (0|0) (as the calculator will return an average function if there's no fitting one). - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.png|18px]] 16:54, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah. I gotz a 86, 89, 92 around. Hmm im not sure then. &mdash;  Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 17:02, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * casio cfx-9850gb - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.png|18px]] 17:09, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for that template, Y0. That's nearly what I needed (but I can use #ifexpr to limit it 0-20). &mdash; Ebañy   Salmonderiel  17:14, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * check the template code, that's exactly what it does ;) - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.png|18px]] 17:19, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * No, I want it to display a number from 0-20 for the level, not, say, 42. PS. want to carry on that game of chess?&mdash;[[Image:User_Ebany_Salmonderiel_Cake.jpg|Cake!|19px]]  Ebañy   Salmonderiel  17:28, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * that's a nice idea. i'll add it into my template. i totally forgot people could want that, too, since i intended it to be used for calculation of the level your character would have without lvl cap :D - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.png|18px]] 18:02, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Duet
I'm beginning work on a composition as of right now. I should have it done within the week if school doesnt decide to bombard me..... --  Wandering   Traveler  16:58, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * ok. feel free to make mine a bit challenging... ;) - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.png|18px]] 17:03, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * know what? i'll also compose something and we just play both of them. how about that? :D - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.png|18px]] 17:04, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yah! =D --[[Image:User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png|19px]]  Wandering   Traveler  17:06, 27 September 2008 (UTC)