User talk:Eloc Jcg/Archive3

Userboxes =)
Hehe, seems you liked them, thank you =D LunarEffect 01:07, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Yep, I love userboxes ^^,-- §  Eloc   §  01:44, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Yup, couldn't help noticing ^__^. Nice collection you have there. LunarEffect 08:53, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
 * This looked like the correct place for this. I was wondering what I might need to do to have the sunspear rank userbox I made a little easier to edit and use on the official wiki.  I didnt copy the other wikis box and I don't know enough about how to properly make a page so the template works when you use the short version of the userbox template, and I thought you may be able to help with that.  If that all made sence do you have any tips for me? Bartelby 04:00, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, give me a second and I'll make you an template in order to do that. No one else beat me to it please (ie. poke, lemming or any other sysops lol)-- §  Eloc   §  04:02, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * There, finally got it! Go to here for instructions.. In short you can add it by typing  Be sure to tell me if there are any bugs or anything wrong with it.-- §   Eloc   §  04:21, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the fast response. Man you are fast! Bartelby 04:33, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ty :). I know some people here who are even faster. Compared to them, I'm a complete noob at the GWW coding.-- §  Eloc   §  04:37, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Well I hope to maybe be considered a noob at GWW coding someday. =D Oh, one thing I noticed on the template was that when I left the ":" in front of the user sunspear part the userbox would not show up.  Once I removed it, it worked fine.  I'm not sure if that is just something with my computer or if it does need to be taken out since the box does work in the example on the template page. Bartelby 04:43, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * One more thing. I'm planning to make a lightbringer userbox too, unless it has already been made of course.  So I may, if you don't mind, ask for another template page in the near future. Bartelby 04:48, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I fixed the thing with the :, just tell me when you need the Lightbrigner one.-- §  Eloc   §  04:53, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * ok, I created a similar userbox for the lightbringer rank. I was thinking of giving a go at making the page for the template but I decided it is best to leave that to the pros. So if you have some time to make another one for me I'd appreciate it. Thanks for all the help! Bartelby 05:32, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you for making the template for me again. I hate to bring it up but again I don't know how to change it. Lightbringer is spelled wrong in some of the template. You have the n and the g switched in some of the spellings. Bartelby 05:30, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh? Let me check it again. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  貢  06:39, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
 * There, should be fixed now. Sorry I didn't get to making it faster, but I didn't see that you posted all the way up here. Don't hesitate to add a new section. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  貢  06:43, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

My userpage has a bug in IE
Hi Eloc, I have a problem with my userpage, and was wondering if you could please help me with it. Using FireFox my userpage looks fine, but if I look at it using IE, it stretches the info column all the way to the right side of the screen and doesn't display the links and pictures sections. If you have any idea how to resolve this problem, I'd be most grateful for any advice. Have a great day! LunarEffect 20:59, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Fyi, it's also fucked up with Opera. I'll look into it. -- [[Image:User Gem sig.png|Gem]] (gem / talk) 21:11, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
 * fixed ;) poke | talk 21:17, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Bah, I had just made a fix too by adding a couple clear tags. Shouldn't start randomly editing before looking throughly where the problem is, since you're fix is a bit better. -- [[Image:User Gem sig.png|Gem]] (gem / talk) 21:20, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh my, that was quick! Thank you so much guys, I appreciate it! LunarEffect 21:23, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh wow. That was quick. Damn you guys and your fasteness. Srry I couldn't have been of any help.-- §  Eloc   §  01:43, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome
Well the header pretty much sums it all up :) I noticed on your user page that you're one that provides UP layouts... how do I do that? Of course I'll credit you or whoever else I decide to borrow one from that was on the page :) Thehockeydude44 03:23, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm assuming the userbox which looks like

this.
 * Is that what you mean? If so, just add User page layout somewhere on your userpage and you'll get the nifty little box and be placed into the Users providing user page layouts category.-- §  Eloc   §  03:46, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Well thats the box, but I meant how do I use your layout? Thehockeydude44 16:37, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Just to note, I've subst'd the userbox above so that this talk page doesn't appear in Category:Users providing user page layouts -- AT (talk | contribs) 16:46, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah thanks for the welcome. So far I'm not very good with wiki format, just trying to upload some armor images. Hopefully without screwing too much stuff up. Good to know there is someone to ask from. :P -Nian 15:11, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, np. Your armor images seem good so far. Feel free to ask me if you have any questions.-- §  Eloc   §  15:12, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the welcome :) --Lundis 17:28, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

stop hitting everyone with your welcome-templates, eloc xD - Y0_ ich_halt  20:01, 7 November 2007 (UTC)


 * i liek the welcome-template, its on every new user now lol --Cursed Angel 20:10, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * i like it two it so welcoming you to the club of wiki editing.t  priestess donut  + 21:26, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * LoL, it's like my new project. I will welcome anyone I see who hasn't been welcomed yet, & with 650 pages on my Watchlist, I'm bound to find some people who haven't been welcomed yet ;)-- §  Eloc   §  03:49, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * haha now youre hitting people with welcome templates again :D --Cursed Angel 01:51, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Hellz ya! Everytime I login to, or log out, I check RC to see which users have nothing on their talk page yet.-- §  Eloc   §  01:52, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the Welcome! Sir Zarox 18:46, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
 * stop saying him thanks :P he's just throwing around welcome templates... xD but he's a nice guy anyway. - Y0_ ich_halt  [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 18:49, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Hehe, GG. Keep it up Eloc. I think it's a good way of welcoming new users too. A empty talk page is a lonely talk page. :P - nian 21:25, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * XD, I pwn like that. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  貢 

Grr!
You know the rules, Eloc. No editing other people's userpages.  Drago  03:54, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Srry, just removing an underscore which isn't quite needed.-- §  Eloc   §  03:56, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Lol. My bad [[Image:UserDrago-sig.gif]]  Drago  03:58, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Np, just make sure to check the the history each time.-- §  Eloc   §  03:59, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Heya
Heya and thanks for the warm welcome...even though I've been around here a bit :P. I do more on Guild Wiki than this site though. Wondering if you can answer me a question... On this site, during skill evaluation events, do the descriptions of the skills get updated? It was my general understanding that the answer was no... but I may be mistaken. Isk8 02:00, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I am quite not sure. I'd assume that they would get changed to match the ones ingame and just change it back when they change it back, but I don't know that for sure. I normally work on Locations, not skills.-- §  Eloc   §  02:20, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * So...what am I doing wrong to recieve a cleverlly worded cation mesage?--Ryudo 20:12, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Everything Nothing, just saw you didn't have any welcome msg on your talk page. &mdash;  卍  Eloc  卍  20:13, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

You draw my attention
And i just had to look at your page, but O MY GOD!! 1,14MB? are you kidding?(In short, your userpage is too big) ~ Kurd  21:37, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm guessing it's the userboxes lol. Don't worry, I will shorten it down soon. I'm also planning on making a contest for people to design my userpage for me and the winner gets some prize amount ingame (probably somewhere around 100P). &mdash;  卍  Eloc  卍  21:39, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Interesting*Puts page on watchlist* ~  Kurd [[Image:User Kurd sig.png]] 21:41, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Aww, I wish I was any good at designing userpages :(. Mine's just a rip off of Anja's. [[Image:User-brains12-sigicon4.png|Talk]] br12  ~ 21:42, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, it is. There will be a few rules involved when making it (like theme colour, certain content required, etc), but besides that, it's all about creativity. &mdash;  卍  Eloc  卍  21:43, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Sign me up! I need some in game cash, lol. --- Raptors / RAAAAAAAAAA!
 * I'll work on a rules page & stuff tonight. But as of now, I'm supposed to be researching an essay in class lol. &mdash;  卍  Eloc  卍  21:45, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * eloc, i think we will need to meet sometime in the game so you can give me my price. ;) - Y0_ ich_halt  [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 21:57, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Do you mean prize? Or do you actually mean price? &mdash;  卍  Eloc  <font color="Black">卍  21:59, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * lol, no. i'm just getting a little tired... remember, it's night here. - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 22:03, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * True there, lol. How many hours are you ahead of me? I believe Brains is 7 ahead of me, so you being in Germany would be 8-9? &mdash;  卍  Eloc  <font color="Black">卍  22:04, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * idk exactly. are you more to the east or the west? - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 22:10, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Western Canada Alberta. &mdash;  卍  Eloc  <font color="Black">卍  22:12, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * i'm 8 hours ahead. - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 22:18, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, I was right. &mdash;  卍  Eloc  <font color="Black">卍  22:19, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * go congratulate yourself :)> - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 22:20, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Your new signature...
I know Nazis had the swastikas pointing in the other direction, but they also used red and black in their flag, so I can't quite help wondering if you are attempting to represent the Nazi ideology through your signature. Could you please shed some light on this, because so far, I'm finding it rather offensive, since what happened back under the Nazi regime was one of the most terrible and sad chapters of the history of mankind. Many people from many different cultures visit this site, and I think a symbol like that should be used in consideration of other peoples feelings towards it. Please know that I also know about the use of this symbol in other cultures, and if its a peaceful message your are representing with it, I apologize. LunarEffect 22:23, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * He said he would change it, but i agree it is unnecessary ~ Kurd [[Image:User Kurd sig.png]] 22:27, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Guild Wars Wiki talk:Sign your comments [[Image:User-brains12-sigicon4.png|Talk]] br12  ~ 22:28, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Tribute to some holiday, or something, iirc. Also, it's similar to a swastika, but it's also a sign for good luck in some culture (I forget which ;. Definitely not meant to be some sort of tribute to Nazis.  Calor  - talk 22:37, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Even if that sign once stood for good luck or whatever it reminds people about nazism as they stole it.--Cursed Angel 22:42, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * If it isn't a swastika, how the hell does it offend you? Lord of all tyria 22:43, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * No, I'm pretty sure it is a swastika. The words swastika doesn't only refer to the symbol used by the Nazis, its more general in terms of...its a cross with arms that bend at 90° angles. So its not similar to a swastika, nor is it not a swastika, it is a swastika. LunarEffect 22:58, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * The one that I'm using is Japanese for Buddhist temple & Indian for luck. I apologize for offending you, but it's Rememberance day here in Canada and the symbol makes people remember of the evil things the Nazi party did. It will be changed tommorow, and again, it will be changed tommorow. Also, do see Guild Wars Wiki talk:Sign your comments. It was used for an example there. Again, I do apologize for offending you. &mdash;  卍  Eloc  <font color="Black">卍  23:11, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * ADDED: It's not a Swastica, it's acutally called a Manji. Just incase you're wondering. &mdash;  卍  Eloc  <font color="Black">卍  23:12, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * and it's not the symbol for buddhist temple >:O - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 23:21, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Sauwastika <-- 2nd picture on the right &mdash;  卍  Eloc  <font color="Black">卍  23:37, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * ah, so you meant they're like, the symbol that marks buildings as temples? because i was thinking about the letters. they have symbols as letters :) - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 23:45, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * "what happened back under the Nazi regime was one of the most terrible and sad chapters of the history of mankind." People really need to take more history courses. It wasn't even the most terrible regime of the century, how on earth would it be one of the most terrible period? - Auron 23:47, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I was going to write a long and elaborate answer about how wrong you are, but after reading your userpage, I wont even bother. LunarEffect 00:11, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Remembrance Day is for World War I. Nazis were World War II. - Tanetris 23:48, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, ok. Go to User:Eloc Jcg/Sandbox to see what my new sig will look like tommorow. Also, Lunar, the colour schem is a coincidence. &mdash;  卍  Eloc  <font color="Black">卍  23:50, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * In Canada, we use Rememberance day to remember all conflicts, including the current one in the Middle East. &mdash;  卍  Eloc  <font color="Black">卍  23:51, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * You start walking around going "Sieg Heil", we're going to have some issues Eloc... -- scourge  23:52, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I wont lol. Keep in mind I'm changing the signature tommorow, so there shouldn't be any issues. &mdash;  卍  Eloc  <font color="Black">卍  23:53, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

I wouldn't welcome any more new wiki'ers with that sig Eloc, just incase they think its insulting. br12 ~ 00:03, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, good point. I'll actually change it right now. &mdash;  卍  Eloc  <font color="Black">卍  00:37, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Does this look good? &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  00:39, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Weeaboo? :P - Auron 00:44, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, I like it better than the "s" thingys. 貢 means contribution, & トーク means talk, but I just took the last symbol to be lazy. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  00:48, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Dude your page is Awesome! How do you make your page Protected?Edit:how do you get a signature, Xd i hate being a newb to something.Jordan23140 00:56, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * His page isnt really protected. It's just a fake message. --- Raptors / RAAAAAAAAAA!

ok i found out how to make a signature, but I dont know how to make a page protected.~^v^~Jordan23140~v^~ 00:59, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Only an admin can make a page protected. --- Raptors / RAAAAAAAAAA!

XD me = Wiki Newb --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Jordan23140.
 * Ty for the compliment. I like my page too, but it's getting to bug, so I have to shorten it down soon. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  01:25, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your replies Eloc, I appreciate the time you took to clear things up here. I'm sorry for not replying sooner, but some members here...got me sidetracked... *sigh* LunarEffect 14:39, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Np. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  01:27, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Lol I was wondering why your sig said: ku eloc +some kanji I dunno. Looks nice like that tho haha. - nian [[Image:User Nian Sig.png|16px]] 21:33, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

No new messages
I love it! Totally fooled me I saw it and I was like wtf? Great work :) <font color="Black">Lyra' <font color="Maroon">Valo'  01:07, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * On an unrelated topic the Devil May Cry userbox I made that you use was destructed when the image of Dante was deleted due to "copyright infringement". You may want to take it off your page. <font color="Black">Lyra' <font color="Maroon">Valo' [[Image:User_Lyra_Valo_LVsig.jpg]] 01:14, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Aww, but I love DMC... &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  01:21, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, I hope you don't mind, but I edited your DMC userbox since the image was removed anyways. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  01:24, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * No problem, although I will now use your version of the box :). <font color="Black">Lyra' <font color="Maroon">Valo' [[Image:User_Lyra_Valo_LVsig.jpg]] 01:31, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * "hands up" yeh got me too. -- Lemming [[Image:User Lemming64 sigicon.png]] 00:06, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * XD, aint it quite amazing? &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  01:28, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

User_talk:Ryudo
Back off. Continuing on the current line of discussion you initiated on that page is most certainly within the bounds of harassment. If a user does not want to be welcomed by you, you should respect that. Given the response the user in question had initially given you, the userbox response was in extremely bad taste. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 02:54, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Wha?! Aiiane, please check again. You are mistaken. History I did back off and it was Raptors, not me.. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  02:56, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Eloc wouldnt do that, he said that he would never talk to him again. --Cursed Angel 02:58, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Aiiane, you should know me a little bit better than that. I said I would back off & leave him alone, and I keep my word. I've always kept my word. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  03:02, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Eloc, I wasn't referring to the second welcome. I was referring to the initial conversation, and that you should have backed off much earlier than you did. Just pointing that out. [[Image:User Aiiane-a.gif|Go to Aiiane's Talk page]] (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 03:07, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, but why post this now when it's been over with for a couple hours? I already said I would back off and haven't talked to him since... &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  03:09, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Probably because it wasn't brought to my attention until now. [[Image:User Aiiane-a.gif|Go to Aiiane's Talk page]] (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 03:10, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Sigh...not to sound rude, but couldn't you have just stayed out? Like, I'm not saying that to stay out completly, but like, to just leave it as it is. I agreed to stop, I said sorry, I've stopped talking to that user, what more could you want from me (did that make any sense?)!? &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  03:13, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * For the simple reason that it is not something I wish to see happen again in the future with another user - from the conversation, it appears that you didn't think you were in the wrong here, but when someone has to tell you repeatedly that they don't want to talk to you, you should respect that, and not only on the 3rd or 4th time around. [[Image:User Aiiane-a.gif|Go to Aiiane's Talk page]] (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 03:26, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Kinda like what's happening right now right? --- Raptors / RAAAAAAAAAA!

(ri) Pardon me for reverting into 3rd grade insult vocabulary, but getting offended by a welcome is RETARDED.  Vanguard  03:32, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Not everyone shares your social mores. [[Image:User Aiiane-a.gif|Go to Aiiane's Talk page]] (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 03:38, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't see the point in "hi, welcome" and getting a "OMG DON'T WELCOME ME." It just doesn't make sense, but perhaps I should know Ryudo's mindset first.  Vanguard [[Image:User-VanguardAvatar.PNG|Vanguard]] 03:41, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * It's more of a "hi, welcome", getting a response of "I'm not exactly new" and then being told "yes you are". [[Image:User Aiiane-a.gif|Go to Aiiane's Talk page]] (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 03:44, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * See, now that makes sense.  Vanguard [[Image:User-VanguardAvatar.PNG|Vanguard]] 03:45, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I share his social mores. Being offended by a welcome is RETARTED. --- Raptors / RAAAAAAAAAA!
 * Agreed --Cursed Angel 04:02, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm still kinda on both sides of the fence. On one hand, Eloc should have made his humor more clear. On the other, it's fucking stupid for any dispute to be made over a friendly "Welcome."  Vanguard [[Image:User-VanguardAvatar.PNG|Vanguard]] 04:05, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I loved the userbox- which was a direct reply to him saying that he failed.  You were merely providing the adequate userbox to express how he felt.  I don't understand this guy. zomgie. - elviondale  (tahlk) 08:22, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Humor is only humor if the audience appreciates it. [[Image:User Aiiane-a.gif|Go to Aiiane's Talk page]] (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 08:23, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Myself, Elviondale and Vanguard (an audience) all found it funny, Ryudo would've foung it funny as well if he didn't have his head up his arse. <font color="Black">Lyra' <font color="Maroon">Valo' [[Image:User_Lyra_Valo_LVsig.jpg]] 10:06, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Don't forget Cursed Angel and I also found it funny. That doesn't qualify as an audience? --- Raptors / RAAAAAAAAAA!
 * Ok, as I see it right now, I seem to have people on both sides of the fence. Some saying that it was rude to be so mad about getting simply welcomed, and some saying that I did drag on too long. I do wish for this to stop, I've agreed to stop & have tried to keep out of this conversation, so why is it still going on? It's over with, why keep discussing it? &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  21:01, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * IT keeps being discussed because you sparked the Harassment policy :/  Vanguard [[Image:User-VanguardAvatar.PNG|Vanguard]] 21:04, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Aww, fine, ok. But I'm going to try & stay out of this as much as I can because I don't want to get into anymore trouble. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  21:35, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Someone's number of contributions does not mean a damn

 * Well obviously you haven't made yourself known or contributed enough to get a welcome message before lol. — 卍 Eloc 卍 20:22, 9 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Ya, I check out your user contributions. You probly didn't get a welcome sooner as you don't even have 50 edits yet. — 卍 Eloc 卍 20:26, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Look, dude, keep comments like that to yourself. That's just plain out hostile and rude and offensive and elitist (even to me, that wasn't part of that discussion). The number of users who regularly edit the wiki are a vast minority to those who don't, and that's perfectly fine. There's more than enough other good reasons to have an account on this wiki besides editing it. You just can't go around telling people "hi, you're a newbie, welcome to OUR wiki". Especially so when they've had edits since as early as May.

Similarly, I've seen you tell anons to register accounts randomly, even when it has nothing to do with what's being discussed. Please do not do that anymore. Just like no one needs to edit the wiki to have an account, no one needs to sign up an account to edit it. When you tell a new user to register an account they, not knowing who you are or how the wiki works, can very possibly be lead to believe that registering an account is necessary/mandatory/recommended/whatever. Again, that is not the case. So, please, don't do so anymore. Thanks. --Dirigible 12:24, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, np. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  20:58, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * If he hasn't violated any policies, and may very well have acted in his best intentions, doesn't that mean everyone reprimanding him for not breaking any rules and defending his actions account to bullying? He explained his reasoning for the post... he didn't say the guy was noob or invaluable or anything of the sort. He simply explained why he believes his welcome message appeared after the 6 months the account existed for. He didn't say "you're a newbie" - everyone has inferred that from his comments because they are all too sensitive to read them from a neutral viewpoint. Stop crucifying him - he wouldn't have posted the welcome message if he didn't believe the user was new. His logic for determining how "new" that user was has been demonstrated to be flawed but not impossible to understand. His welcome message isn't greatly different from the one I received in its wording. Look below, someone was happy to receive it. Dancing Gnome 00:01, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Agreed with DG. -- [[Image:User Gem sig.png|Gem]] (gem / talk) 00:05, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ty for your support Dancing Gnome. What you said did make alot of sense & it looks like you puy aloy of time into typing all of that. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  01:28, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * No, just because he's not breaking any policies and has good intentions, us telling him he's doing something wrong doesn't mean we're bullying him. There's many mistakes one can do that aren't ban-worthy and are still unhealthy to the wiki and as the saying goes, that road is paved with good intentions. Criticism/advice/suggestions are not bullying. Do you really expect us to leave every problem unconfronted until it reaches the level of policy infraction and deserves a ban? Weren't people recently whining at sysops and bcrats and regular editors for not intervening when they thought something was wrong, until they had a policy to back them?
 * Do you really think that I'm trying to bully Eloc by pointing out to him that making users register accounts goes against the idea of an open wiki, or that I'm bullying him when I note that that by taking that kind of condescending tone with other users just because they have few contributions he's antagonizing those who are the real reason why ANet decided to host a wiki in the first place? If you do, then you are simply wrong and are missing the reason why I decided to bother posting the above here today, after weeks of barely activity on this wiki. Do you really think I'm here trying to kick him while he's down? I'm not. It's simply about not letting some of the wiki's most basic ideas get lost. This place has forgotten so many others already. --Dirigible 01:56, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * If I say I forgive eloc, will people finally shut up about it? ~_~ cause I do, since he apologized. I mean, ya, he pissed me off but oh em gee, it was like 24 hrs ago, drop it already folks, lmfao.--Ryudo 02:19, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ty Ryudo. I do agree with you that it should be dropped. I've apologized, Ryudo has forgiven me (I think he did atleast?), could we just get on what really matters here? &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  02:25, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Dont bitch about me correcting my name spelling, and your forgiven ^_^--Ryudo 02:28, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I see where you are coming from however I did feel the outlash against eloc was unreasonable. Well-meaning people make mistakes, and you should correct them when they do. What you should not do is act like their mistake was deliberate. Correct, but don't scold, - from Guild Wars Wiki:Assume good faith. The inferences you and others took from Eloc's example contrast with this. I was not going to post this here to avoid further inconveniencing Eloc and others involved but I decided it was important to say it. I am more than happy to continue this on my talk page, but don't wish to continue spamming Eloc's for what I beleive well a well intentioned mistake and misconception. Dancing Gnome 10:39, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

indent rest
 * --Ryudo 20:34, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

hey thx again
for the welcome and showing me how to sign and telling me to use : to make space lol im a noob but now i want a cool userpage like urs how do i do that??--MuffinMaster 06:51, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * There are alot of different ways to make a cool userpage. It all depends on what you're looking for. To see what my userpage is comprised of, click here. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  06:52, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * that all looks rly confusing i just want som cool boxes like u have on ur page how do i do that?--MuffinMaster 06:55, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * In order to make userboxes, go to Userbox and then there should be instructions on how to make them. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  06:58, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * ok thx alot eloc i know i had alot of dumb questions lol--MuffinMaster
 * Np. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  07:04, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Means you can pester him as much as you want, I know I pester Anja and poke about stuff all the time. <font color="Black">Lyra' <font color="Maroon">Valo'  10:09, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Contest...thing
When do you plan on starting the "Design Eloc's Page (for him)" contest? Because I'm in, likely, if there will be one.  Calor  - talk 21:17, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Pretty soon. Most likely when I stop getting into trouble. If you want to talk more about it, just PM me ingame under Eloc Jcg. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  21:36, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * i never meet you online :( - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 21:42, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ya, kind of crappy. I did add you to my friends list under "Yo Ich Halt" so I'd remember who you were. I'll be on once I finish going through my Watchlist. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  21:43, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * the problem is, i g2g. i need to get up early tomorrow :) - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 22:10, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Aww, how could that be a happy face? Oh well, I got Monday off, so maybe I'll see you later tommorow or on Monday sometime. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  22:11, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * i got scholl all day on mondays... >.< morning school, afternoon school, evening guitar class, ... - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 22:25, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * you can be rather sure to meet me on wednesdays around... what is it for you... 6am to 2pm... - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 22:26, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, odds are I wont meet you on Wednesday, lol. Maybe some weekend. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  22:27, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * ya. - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 22:31, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Kk, for whenever you start. And how do you get in trouble? I'm too smart to get caught :P.  Calor  - talk 22:33, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll get the rules up once I finish recruiting for my guild and get my Watchlist finished. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  22:36, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * No rush.  Calor  - talk 22:37, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Meh, might as well get it done. My page is over the limit in GWW:USER. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  22:38, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * whispers* It's not cheating until you get caught. :D  Calor  - talk 22:45, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * User talk:Eloc Jcg &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  22:47, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Fine. You win ;-(. Where are you gonna post the "tournament".  Calor  - talk 02:49, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Tournament? Also, I'll make a banner on my userpage giving a link to a subpage which will give the rules & the prize. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  02:51, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Contest, and thanks.  Calor  - talk 04:03, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * There, added. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  04:06, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

User talk:Anele Mea
I added your image comment to his/her archive, so no need to add the exact same again :) - anja   21:47, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Oopsies, didn't see the archive there. Could put a link to the archive at the top of the page or put an archive box there somewhere (with the users permission of course)? &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  21:50, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Weird Signature Effect
Are you aware the swastika appears when someone copies your signature? Sorry I realised that was an old signature. I struck it out to prevent causing you more trouble.Dancing Gnome 00:14, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * see Guild Wars Wiki talk:Sign your comments poke | talk 00:18, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * It was a rememberance day theme for my signature. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  01:25, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Image
Hi, thank you for your message :D.But i don't really understand what you mean , so i have to reedit the name location ? Greets Elite Healer An 11:18, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, lets see here...your images, Image:Blocparty copy.png, Image:Jetli2 copy.png, Image:My chemical romance copy.png, Image:Wolfmother copy.png, Image:P9100008.jpg & Image:Light graffiti.png, would all have to be reuploaded under the names Image:User Elite Healer An Blocparty copy.png, Image:User Elite Healer An Jetli2 copy.png , Image:User Elite Healer An My chemical romance copy.png , Image:User Elite Healer An Wolfmother copy.png , Image:User Elite Healer An P9100008.jpg & Image:User Elite Healer An Light graffiti.png. In each of their summarys place User image. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  19:28, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Ok ,thank you :). --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Elite Healer An.
 * Np &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  19:25, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Hey
I left [DW] cos the time difference is just too big, I never see you or anyone else on. Hope you dont mind,  br12  • 21:32, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Alright, np. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  22:02, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

O hai
AD.. o rly? - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> 18:50, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ya..rly. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  19:24, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
 * no wai! - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 22:38, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

what month? ;) - Y0_ ich_halt </tt>
 * July. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  23:13, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

O.O
So I see your signature while I'm on a school computer and I realize that its not ? Eloc ?. LoL. - elviondale  (tahlk) 22:08, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, thats the problem. Not all computers have a Japanese character set installed. =) LunarEffect 23:07, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ya, lol. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  23:13, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
 * your lucky that your schools firewall hasn't block the wiki yet.<font color="#FF99CC">話す  <font color="#FF0033">priestess donut  <font color="#FF99CC">寄付 20:58, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * It has, but the teacher is away some days. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  02:28, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Hrm...
You stole/Borrowed my userbox! where's my credit! :p Teo 06:21, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * He steals everybody's userboxes and never gives credit. Don't expect to get credit, lol. --- Raptors / RAAAAAAAAAA!
 * hrm... atleast some1 liked it... ah well as long as i know... btw that "lol" was totally uncalled for [[Image:User_Teo_Sig_Icon.JPG]] Teo 14:04, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Whys that? I'm not a total and complete asshole. I can be if thats what you'd like. --- Raptors / RAAAAAAAAAA!
 * Oh yeah... that's what i want. ? [[Image:User_Teo_Sig_Icon.JPG]] Teo 06:46, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

wiki projects
for you userpage, do you expect to add more to the list of your projects? or in other words: do you expect the list to become longer? - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> 21:06, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I plan on only doing Landmarks until I completely finish them. Images and all info comfirmed. Does that answer your question? &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  02:29, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * nope. the question is whether i can format the project list as a nav bar. - Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 15:27, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I suppose so if you want? &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  15:00, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

RFA
Ever thought about creating an RFA for yourself? br12 • 22:26, 13 November 2007 (UTC)


 * ogawd Armond 22:30, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * By that I didn't mean "i think you're fantastic" (or that I hate you), just wandered if you've thought about it. [[Image:User-brains12-sigicon5.png|Talk|14px]] br12  • 22:33, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Even if he is I don't think it would be wise for him to say so on the wiki before he does it. Just wait and see? --- Raptors / RAAAAAAAAAA!
 * Wait and see. Eloc, you're great, but we've seen you make rash decisions and seem to be overaggressive when it comes to vandals and user disagreements (Ryudo still sticks in everyone's mind) at times, and that would kill you in an RfA.  Calor  - talk 00:06, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * If you want to talk about this talk to him in game please. I know once Eloc says anything about if he will or not many people are just going to swarm his talk page and tell him what they think about him  (It only took one post before that happened) which isn't needed at all. --- Raptors / RAAAAAAAAAA!
 * I've thought about it, but as of right now, I don't honestly think it would be a smart choice at the current time. I'd gladly accept any nominations. Also, PM me ingame if you wish to talk more about this subject privately. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  02:30, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I be famous--Ryudo 07:33, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ya, just a bit, lol. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  14:34, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * *cough* -- [[Image:User Corrran sig.png|CoRrRan]] (CoRrRan / talk) 17:19, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Pfft, that's totally different. Thats Beaurocrat, not RFA. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  01:40, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi!
CoRrRan  &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by CoRrRan (talk &bull; contribs) 17:16, 14 November 2007 (UTC) (UTC).
 * what a noob. Didn't even use show preview. --- Raptors / RAAAAAAAAAA!
 * Do you live here Raptors?? [[Image:User_Teo_Sig_Icon.JPG]] Teo 21:04, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I pop in and out on occasion. --- Raptors / RAAAAAAAAAA!
 * Yeah.. pop. some serious poping if that's the case :p [[Image:User_Teo_Sig_Icon.JPG]] Teo 21:08, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ya, Raptors totally lives here. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  01:39, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * no life i guess. [[Image:User_Teo_Sig_Icon.JPG]] Teo 15:00, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

so i herd
you're a member of the translation task force? ... don't tell me you're playing gw with german text. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> 23:03, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I alternate between German, English & Japanese :P. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  01:40, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * you speak enough japanese to use it ingame? o.o wow. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 15:29, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Where would I speak it ingame? It's not like they let me go to the Japanese districts, right? &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  17:09, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I think he's asking if you encounter a japanese person, do you know enough to have a conversation with them? Like, I know some german but probably not enough to have a full out convo in it. Which sucks.  Vanguard [[Image:User-VanguardAvatar.PNG]]17:10, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't think I've ever ran into a Japanese person as all of them are in the Japanese districts mainly. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  17:11, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * So... do you hop in those districts?  Vanguard [[Image:User-VanguardAvatar.PNG]]17:14, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * i meant that he's advanced enough to understand descriptions and npc dialogue and stuff. but on the other hand, i don't read any descrips since i know mostly all skills... - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 17:16, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, considering I've been playing GW for over 26 months, I pretty much know everything off by heart, so I can switch languages and still find my way around the game very easily. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  23:54, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

userboxes
could u hav possibly any more userboxes!!???!!!!??!<font color="DarkGreen">«º¤¥Ω☼Vørråx☼Ω¥¤º» 02:45, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * He possibly could. He's currently having a contest to see who can design the best userpage for him, following certain guidelines, one of which is "no userboxes", with in-game rewards.  Calor  - talk 02:50, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ya, I've been soo tempted to add more recently, lol. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  03:44, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * On a random note, are you ever gonna bring back the old sig with the S-like symbols?  Calor  - talk 04:08, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I dunno, I like this one better :P. Why? You liked the s Eloc s one? &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  14:57, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * The current one looks too random. Symmetry ftw [[Image:User-brains12-sigicon5.png|Talk|14px]] br12  • 14:59, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Symetry is why I got bored of it. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  15:00, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * yo eloc can you at least archive them? I'm not done thieving.  Vanguard [[Image:User-VanguardAvatar.PNG]]15:03, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ya, I'll make sure to have an Archive on my new userpage. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  15:06, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * i'd stick with the history as archive. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 15:29, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Back from edumacation time. Ya, I liked the S one because of symmetry, and I immediately knew it was you when I saw the S because you've had it for ages...as long as I've been here, at least. But if Chinese characters suit you, then keep them. They are kinda neat.  Calor  - talk 19:26, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * they're japanese :P and they get a nice stretch to the sig imo. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 19:28, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Can't tell difference between Chinese and Japanese &rArr;  Calor  - talk 19:49, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * chinese are always complex (similar to the right one in eloc's sig), when they look like that then it's hard to tell, but incomplex ones like eloc's right one are definetely japanese. symbols with circles and many 90° angles are korean. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 19:51, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Japanese writing uses three different types of "letters": Hiragana, Katakana and Kanji. Katakana is used for foreign words, borrowed from other languages or foreign names, it looks like a more "cornery (xD)" version of Hiragana. Hiragana and Kanjis are used for Japanese words as well as Japanese names...etc. Kanjis are the same "letters" you see in Chinese writing, so a person who can speak Japanese can read Chinese to a certain degree and vice versa, although a lot of the pronunciations are completely different (On and Kun readings or something like that). Some words in Japanese however are written exclusively in Hiragana, which looks a lot simpler than the Kanjis. As far as I know anything you can write with a Kanji can also be written in Hiragana...or Katakana for that matter, for reasons of simplicity and readability. If you are reading a modern Japanese text, you will likely see examples of all 3 letter-types. I hope I got all this right...long time since I last looked into my Japanese book xD LunarEffect 20:41, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll stick with 26 of the same letters, and the Arabic numeral system. Thanks for the little lesson, considering I have tomorrow off :P  Calor  - talk 20:46, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I find that Japanese symbols are the easiest, Chinese and semi complex and Korean are just messed &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  23:56, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * /agree. and about pronounciation: you can replace all kanji, hiragana and katakana with the other alphabets. which one is used depends on the word and what readers you're expecting (little children won't have to bother with kanji...). that's because every letter of hira- and katakana stands for one syllable, kanji can stand for more than one and describe objects and such. kthximaleavenow xD - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 15:12, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Switch Kanji for Romanji. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  15:15, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * in what way? i meant you can replace the three japanese alphabets with each other. and course you can also replace them all with romaji. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 15:21, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I mean like an easy way to learn to pronounce japanese words is to read it in Romanji. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  15:24, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

(Reset indent) to learn pronounciation i'd rather watch some anime originals... xD - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> 15:55, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Woot! Go Anime! &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  16:10, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * naruto shippuuden ep34 right now. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 16:12, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Sweet deal. I got bored of Naruto though. I like to watch Gundam Seed Destiny, Bleach, & Deathnote. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  16:12, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * ya, i was close to cancelling it, too. stupid with all those fillers. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 16:25, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ya...Inuyasha had alot of fillers and in the end they didn't even catch the person they were trying to catch for like 4 years on the air. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  16:26, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * it's always like that. the actual goal of the story is usually on OVAs. you know hunter x hunter? the tv series didn't end with anything close to the protagonist's goal: finding his father. then there's three OVA series, in the third of which he finally gets his old man. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 16:36, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Bush Userbox
about ur pres. bush userbox we didnt elect him he lost the popular vote :P<font color="DarkGreen">«º¤¥Ω☼Vørråx☼Ω¥¤º» 20:48, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ya. There was this whole fiasco with the Florida electronic voting machines, and Gore claims he had more votes, but nobody really knows. Also, on Youtube, there is a Saturday Night Live skit with an actor posing as Al Gore mentioning the 2000 election. It's obviously a joke, but the actor, "Al Gore", was touring his "trophy room", and in it is in award relating to the 2000 election. He said, roughly, I'm going by memory here: "Now this, this next award has nothing to do with An Inconvenient Truth. It's called a POPPY. It goes to that candidate for president who wins the most votes, but doesn't actually get to become president."  Calor  - talk 23:54, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Good Old Days
Well, considering your userbox..collection...is about to be taken away, I wanted to show you something you said on your own userpage a while ago. I was looking back to see how the collection got so large in the first place.

"Ok, normally I am against user boxes but I will keep the choices down to a select few and will not make any myself."--Eloc 06:15, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Funny how people change. Enjoy,  Calor  - talk 04:40, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ya...the gold ol' days...lol &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  04:55, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * haha "I will keep the choices down to select a few", that made me laugh, you've collected whatever u see and probably have over nine thousand userboxes :D --Cursed Angel 08:06, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * wasn't it around 300 userboxes? xD - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 13:42, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 215. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  14:59, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * duh, only 215 - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 20:04, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * if eloc keeps the page design he has now and dosen't take the userboxs away I will probably be in second if he takes them away ill probably be in first :). <font color="#FF99CC">話す  <font color="#FF0033">priestess donut  <font color="#FF99CC">寄付 22:49, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * you have only slightly more than me, and mine are all unique :P - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 22:52, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * i think alot of mine are made by me i got to count but im 2 lazy to do that also when i said second up there i meant first :). <font color="#FF99CC">話す  <font color="#FF0033">priestess donut  <font color="#FF99CC">寄付 22:54, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * ya sure, i figured you mean first. and your boxes are boring :P - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 23:32, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Well the reason I'm getting rid of them is because it's violating GWW:USER. Yours might be violating it atm Priestess. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  00:28, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

hi again
have a look at http://de.babelfish.yahoo.com/. you can test your german a bit. insert some url into the lower text line ("Übersetzen Sie eine Website"). then it will automatically translate that page. i'm not sure whether you speak german enough, but i think it'll be good for a laugh for you, too, if you translate my user page... may also wanna try ab.er.rant's xD - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> 20:03, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * and your page is mostly done, btw. 84.164.86.150 20:52, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I could also use http://www.google.de/language_tools?hl=de. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  00:27, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
 * well, have you tried it? - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 14:32, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ya, I tried it, but I'm not that good at German yet :P &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  20:12, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

userboxes
You don't mind if I borrow a few of ur userboxes do you? I see you have some pretty good ones, and also ones that look suspiciously like ones I made up to put on my page ;). Ashes Of Doom 01:28, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Go right ahead. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  01:46, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I think I accidentally stole you some userboxes :p. Thx for the welcome btw :) Rayd 11:25, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Accidently eh? :P &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  20:09, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanx
Thanks for the welcome :)-Warior kronos 02:54, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Np. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  03:08, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
 * hai eloc, can you give me the welcome template so people write nice thanks on my talk page too?, there are too few of them now. --Cursed Angel 16:56, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Do you want me to post a welcome on your talk page, or do you just want me to give you the link to the template so you can use it? The link is Welcome btw. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  17:05, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
 * thanks, now i'll go welcome people.--Cursed Angel 17:12, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, :P &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  17:12, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Mine's better Mine's better Mine's better Mine's better. eh-hem, not copied from Eloc in any way, shape or form. [[Image:User-brains12-sigicon5.png|Talk|14px]]  br12  • (talk) • 19:58, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I've welcomed 9 people now :) --Cursed Angel 20:00, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
 * i foresee that every newcomer will find three different welcome templates on his talk page in gww's future. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 20:40, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I think its better to personally welcome them, but i have too less time for doing so. --Cursed Angel 20:44, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 3? &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  00:17, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * maybe 4. you, brains, cursed, me. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 13:18, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, I thought you meant 4 different templates, or do you mean 4 differente templates? &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  17:04, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * that, maybe, too. i don't intend on using the mainspace one in its current state. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 17:11, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I plan on keeping on using Welcome. I've gotten more thank you's than complaints. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  17:12, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Just you wait - it's only a matter of time before someone comes up with pissoff :D (j/k - I like the Eloc dude ^^) -- Snog  rat [[Image:User Snograt signature.png]] 19:11, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * you're late. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 19:25, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

(Reset indent) The stupid thing is, I bet some people will actually use that on new users' pages.... br12 • (talk) • 19:26, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Make a template that troll people too :D, to insult them and so. lol--Cursed Angel 19:28, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmm, closest think I could find to a template involving trolls is this one... &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  02:46, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Contagion, mini skill icons
Well, i know that one should use this in the skill section, but may these be used in the notes? Its not me that is disturbed by this, as this can also be useful with the icon, as some players may remember the skill without being forced to click on the link. but maybe there are several reasons for not doing this, e.g. because it enlarges the height of the lines. The notes are sentences, instead of only skill names. —Zerpha The Improver 12:45, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Alright, that's fine. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  15:06, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * ok, thx4info. i'll also use icons if i make other notes sometime. —Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 21:37, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Np. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  17:03, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Sig Pic

 * hai, how can i add a picture to my signature? --Cursed Angel 00:30, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Take whatever image you want, upload it under something along the lines of "Image:User Cursed Angel sig icon.jpg". Then, go to my preferences, and edit the third input box down with the wiki code you want for your sig. Also, check the box right below the input one. To put the image in, put the image file name in brackets, as if linking it, then save your preferences. You can make additional changes with the font and such by editing the code some more. Note that the picture in your sig must be 19px x 19px, no larger.  Calor  - talk 00:59, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I've tried for 20 minutes now, i suck at this i admit it, could you help me? it's this picture:Image:Image-User Cursed Angel sig icon.jpg, i want it to link to my talk page, and i want it to be 19px, lol my signature is f*cked up :/ --Cursed Angel.&#91;&#91;Image:Image-User_Cursed_Angel_sig_icon.jpg &#124;talk 08:56, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Lol, it's a start. I had problems editing my sig, too. For the image to redirect to your talk page, go to the image's file page. Edit the description and put in #REDIRECT User talk:Cursed Angel . Save. Now the image redirects to your talk page. EDIT: Half my post didn't save. I'll redo. Anyways, after redirecting to your talk page with the image, try using this code for your actual sig: Cursed Angel[[Image:Image-User_Cursed_Angel_sig_icon.jpg|19px]] . That will make Cursed Angel direct to your userpage, and the image (if I got everything right) to your talk page. Knock yourself out :p.  Calor  - talk 15:48, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * If you want to use a sig as an example, here's mine (this is what is entered in the "Nickname" field - . That ends up becoming - [[Image:User-brains12-sigicon5.png|Talk|14px]]  br12  • (talk) • 15:59, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * cursed, the problem with your sig above is that you put the image into the user page link. as a model: you used  there's two mistakes in here:
 * a)you put the image inside the user page link
 * b)you open two links while only closing one of them
 * correct would be  - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 16:29, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * This in the nickname;.
 * Should become this; Cursed Angel [[Image:Image-User_Cursed_Angel_sig_icon.jpg‎|19px|talk]]
 * But becomes this;--&#91;&#91;User:Cursed Angel&#124;Cursed Angel &#91;&#91;Image:Image-User_Cursed_Angel_sig_icon.jpg‎&#124;19px&#124;talk]]]] 16:47, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your help but i still fail :(
 * have you checked the "raw signatures" box? if not, do it. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 17:03, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Umm, to answer your question. Read all that's above, lol. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  17:04, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * i didnt know i was supposed to do that, thanks :D --Cursed Angel [[Image:Image-User_Cursed_Angel_sig_icon.jpg‎|19px|talk]] 17:10, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Funny how something so small does something so big..good job.  Calor  - talk 17:11, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ya, it's looking good. You should add some colour to your signature though, Cursed Angel. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  17:14, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * (Edit conflict) x3 I quote: "Also, check the box right below the input one. [...] Calor - talk 00:59, 22 November 2007 (UTC)"... he did say you should check the box ^^ and we outtalked eloc on his own talk page, mwahaha! - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 17:14, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * EC x3..very nice. I did say that in my jumbled instructions, but then again..it's from a sleep-deprived teenager. Anyways, looks good!  Calor  - talk 18:34, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * XD, you didn't out talk me, I was sleeping and couldn't see the message until you guys already jumped right over it. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  23:48, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

HELP
Who can give me a code, thet can use in user page to not edit some special places??? advanced thanks... PM --Anele Mea 19:13, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * you mean you want a tutorial with wiki editing? anytime :) - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 19:19, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * no i searched this code  .... but also i want to know all wiki codes... like u say tutorial ;) --Anele Mea [[Image:User_Anele_Mea_ico.JPG|19px]] 19:30, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * if there's a link to a wiki editing tutorial page, i'd also be interested :P i know abaut the "common" wiki codes, but i don't know how to do something more complex like tables with special elements. —Zerpha[[Image:UserZerpha The Improver sig.png|talk]] The Improver 19:34, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Check out some of the links on Help:Editing. [[Image:User-brains12-sigicon5.png|Talk|14px]] br12  • (talk) • 19:36, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I recommend you to look at wikipedia's Help:Editing (and its subpages) as it contains nearly everything you can do with the wiki syntax. poke | talk 19:38, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thx you all ;) --Anele Mea [[Image:User_Anele_Mea_ico.JPG|19px]] 19:39, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * the most important of which will be tables, since nearly everything here can be done or is done with tables. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 19:40, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * once you know it a bit, have a look of Anja's, poke's, ab.er.rant's or my userpage. they're basically one huge table. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 19:41, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I prefer chairs (and who said I had a bad sense of humour?) --[[Image:User-brains12-sigicon5.png|Talk|14px]] br12  • (talk) • 19:43, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) Then you would have to look at my old userpage as my current one has no tables :P poke | talk 19:44, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * because you're div-aholic :P - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 19:46, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Dam, you all beat me to answering the question. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  23:50, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

User Picture
I found already balthazar ;) i to thinking to put balthazar and Grenth.. cuz i follow them!!! but its not yet black ;))) so when it will be done.. i'll give you!!! --Anele Mea 13:03, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  16:37, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

HELP
Category: Protected pages - which code is this to protect tha page from editing??? -- Anele Mea 13:48, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * see anja astor's page. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 15:37, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Why THANK you!
Oh hi, thanks for welcoming me. I mean I figured it was about time considering I've been here 2 1/2 months now. My suggestion is to work on your response time. Maybe you'll one day be able to cut it down to a week! SERIOUS! Vael Victus 18:23, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * it's random. sometimes new ppl get their welcome after 5 minutes, sometimes it takes him a full year. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 18:25, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Just be glad you got a welcome. I don't go through Special:Listusers and welcome everyone. I just glance at Special:Recentchanges every so often and see who doesn't have anything on their talk page. Anyways, all in all, your welcome Vael. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  19:51, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Welcome
Hello, Eloc Jcg, and welcome to the Official Guild Wars Wiki! If you need help with anything, don't hesitate to add a message to my talk page. I highly recommend that you check out the "Welcome to the wiki" page - it's extremely useful as an initial guide. Best of luck and happy editing! &mdash; Skuld 18:28, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * lol, right. he hasn't been welcomed yet. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 18:34, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * lol he deserved it :D --<font color="Black">Cursed Angel [[Image:User_Cursed_Angel_Signature.jpg|19px|talk]] 18:36, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * User_talk:Eloc_Jcg/Archive &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  19:46, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * that was a long and boring welcome...--<font color="Black">Cursed Angel [[Image:User_Cursed_Angel_Signature.jpg|19px|talk]] 19:48, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, it was. And I didn't bother reading through it at all, lol. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  19:49, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I wish we had those old colorful and good looking welcome templates back ... (oops, violation of Guild Wars Wiki:No Sarcasm again :/) poke | talk 19:57, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * No matter, it was rejected. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  20:00, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I know, but it's fun to violate it :P poke | talk 20:10, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * XD &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  20:10, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * i think it is terrible to violate it. - <tt>Y0_ ich_halt </tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt_sig.jpg|16px|Have a look at my page]] 21:00, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I think that the old template was awfully big and too long and boring to make someone excited to contribute. --<font color="Black">Cursed Angel [[Image:User_Cursed_Angel_Signature.jpg|19px|talk]] 21:45, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't think any welcome template can make someone excited to contribute... poke | talk 21:49, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Say they get porno if they contribute. The Internet is full of people like that. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  21:54, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Maybe welcome templates don't make people excited to contribute, but they sure make some people remove all the content from the talk pages, and then make the one who put the welcome template to come back and tell him that he just broke a policy (which is not really welcoming after a welcome). Welcome templates are evil, i say. (but again, there is this other "welcome" page that should get changed.. can't remember the link)--Fighterdoken 22:03, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * GWW:WELCOME? &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  22:06, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Nope, was about MediaWiki:Welcomecreation (took a while to find). I see it was changed after all, but still could become a bit more user friendly i guess.--Fighterdoken 22:15, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Feel free to propose a better text on the talk page :) (btw. Eloc, you need to archive) poke | talk 22:39, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I never read that text when I created my account. And his page isn't longer than Gaile's yet :p.  Calor  &mdash;  talk  22:42, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Holy crap, I just archived 3 weeks ago. I'm pretty popular :P. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  23:40, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * We love you eloc :D --<font color="Black">Cursed Angel [[Image:User_Cursed_Angel_Signature.jpg|19px|talk]] 23:41, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

GWW:SIGN
Would your signature be allowed under the new GWW:SIGN? It states "The user's signature may show at most one image (or icon)." -- br12  • (talk) • 22:01, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * It is allowed as mine is a character. The ク in my sig is equivalent to your Talk page link, and my 貢 is equivalent to a contributions link. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  22:05, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * x2 I believe those are characters, not icons. And Eloc won't change his sig unless he wants :p. Check his archive.  Calor  &mdash;  talk  22:06, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, didn't know how to categorise your thingies. --[[Image:User-brains12-sigicon5.png|Talk|14px]] br12  • (talk) • 22:09, 23 November 2007 (UTC)