Talk:Game updates/20090709

Update
Opted out of a skill balance to up the k-value? Ew. Karate  Jesus  23:03, 9 July 2009  (UTC)
 * Also, YAY A NEW (recycled) TONIC THAT NO ONE HAS ZKEYS TO GET! Excuse my caps. Karate   Jesus  23:04, 9 July 2009  (UTC)
 * You know there are other means to get ZKeys than just mat's ;) [sarcasm]Also Yay you just boost your rank more quickly... great...[/sarcasm] -- Silent Storm  [[Image:User SilentStorm MySig.png|Talk to me|19px]] 23:07, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yayyyyyyyyyyy~! People who grind ranks can now do it faster, and people who aren't involved can now fall behind faster~! Great idea. =^-^= ~Ryuu [[Image:User_Ryuu_Desu_Sig.png|18px]][  Talk | Contributions  ] 23:13, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Bloodspike didn't need a buff... ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 23:17, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Did it get one?Sloh Em Oshun 23:18, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * ^ lol. Should we add a note that RPs are still not being distributed? Or does it even matter anymore? Karate   Jesus  23:18, 9 July 2009  (UTC)
 * @Sloh: Yes it did.
 * @KJesus: Are they supposed to be in this update? ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 23:21, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I guess not, but was anyone expecting anything in this update? I sure as hell wasn't expecting anything....so I guess I got what I expected. Karate   Jesus  23:22, 9 July 2009  (UTC)
 * I was expecting a shadow form and wail of doom buff, tbh. --Jette  [[Image:User_Jette_awesome.png|19px]] 23:23, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * @Karate: No adding a note would be redundant.
 * @Shard: No they werent. [[Image:User DrogoBoffin sig icon.png]] DrogoBoffin 23:24, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * @Shard: How exactly did bloodspike get a buff? Skills weren't even touched in this update. And if you're referring to the k-value change, it's impartial to your build. Just not seeing it. 208.125.194.60 00:18, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You just answered your own question. Karate   Jesus  00:43, 10 July 2009  (UTC)
 * Wait, what does K-value mean exactly? DOes it mean the amount of points you earn for every rated match won? or is it the max cap you can earn for each consecutive win you get? From what I know, you only win 1 Champion and Commander point for each win, no matter the consective (unless I'm missing something). Info would help, thanks. --173.9.211.149 01:44, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * It's really not that hard to follow:
 * 100% of teams in Rated GvGs farm with BloodSpike.
 * Farming reaps rating much faster now.
 * See how that works?
 * The K-value is a part of the formula that determines the rating gain/loss per match. Higher K-value means more points won/lost. ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 01:57, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Life steal is a worst idea in this game, especially when they can spam it. This gay issue still exists unless they really want fix bspike shit. sad champion farming age.--紅茶喵._. 06:09, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah Blood Magic needs less spiking and more utility, but I doubt we're gonna see that any time soon. 82.3.254.219 08:31, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Don't you ever learn?
Skill update please. SKILL UPDATE PLEASE! (can I make myself any more clear?)
 * Please sign your rants. [[Image:User DrogoBoffin sig icon.png]] DrogoBoffin 23:28, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * LOL [[Image:User DrogoBoffin sig icon.png]] DrogoBoffin 23:29, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Even a bug fix would be nice. Signet of Spirits perhaps. 99.144.225.82 23:33, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * While the game does have a lot of broken stuff that has to be addressed, Arena Net does have a point in that the last balance update was a few days ago. There are lists of skills that need to be nerfed and/or fixed, but changing a lot of stuff at once rarely does work. Erasculio 23:35, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The IP asked for just one bug fix. Not a laundry list of them....just...one....little.....bug fix. Doesn't sound unreasonable to me. Karate   Jesus  23:38, 9 July 2009  (UTC)

Love the title. Fully applies to the initial poster. Every month there is the regular update for the tournaments and straight after idiots post about lack of skill update. sheesh, when will you ever learn.... Lynx Raven Raide 08:23, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * "and straight after idiots post about lack of skill update." and imbeciles that dont post feedbacks.--64.237.128.218 03:55, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Why do you need skill updates so badly, I never understood. Tiberium 14:44, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * you must play guildwars first.--66.50.161.12 19:55, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * And if you haven't played it, it's still pretty simple to understand: Skills have bugs (you know what i mean with bugs here, do you?), some skills are overpowered like this one. Those are usually the reasons. And Arenanet has done many skill updates lately which have made many skills bugged ("Brace Yourself!" (PvP) caused people to crash after it got an update, but they fixed that). I don't wanna list everything here :D - J.P. [[Image:User Jope12 sigicon.png|18px|Contributions]] Talk  20:24, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Guild Wars is 4 years old and Arena Net couldn't make this game balanced ? In 4 (four) years ?? I don't know what to say... 213.233.92.218 13:32, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 4 years ago, it was balanced. The problem is that we seem to be regressing development.  However, I will say that the most recent balance was surprisingly pleasant... it didn't come anywhere near fixing all the problems, but it stamped out quite a few, and that is more than I can say for the past year and a half (or more) before it.  --Jette  [[Image:User_Jette_awesome.png|19px]] 15:24, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

So...
Can we expect RPs in the next few years or so? Or is this another plan by ANet to cleverly reduce the number of people that want to buy G Build Wars 2? -- Gah_  23:57, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, really anything would be nice. I'd prefer actual functionality changes (i.e. bug fixes) rather than RPs anyway... -- Gah_  23:57, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * To quote Regina, "Another project is Xunlai Tournament House. We're digging into the code for XTH. Know that we're continuing to plug away at it. Incidentally, the folks working on Xunlai, have been drafted in to help with this, meaning that they are not full time on GW1 either, so their time must be scheduled carefully as well." So, basically, you shouldn't expect anything until at least September..... Karate   Jesus  23:59, 9 July 2009  (UTC)
 * September of next year. Canineteeth 00:07, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * ArenaNet != Valve. Is there any reason why people need RPs? --numma_cway 02:16, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * i think they are working for the government to lower the percentage of shut-ins.--64.237.128.218 03:57, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

No skill update, but what about a Bug Fix
There are several bugs introduced since their last skill update, they could have a least fix them. 000.00.00.00 00:41, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree. I guess they think that they got all of them in the 4 updates last month. Karate   Jesus  00:44, 10 July 2009  (UTC)
 * They got all the bugs that nobody cared about! That's enough, I suppose. -- Gah<font color="Black">_  00:47, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, well. I guess I'll just wait 'til next month to try and play again. No big deal. I'm used to sitting out bad pvp updates. Karate   Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">00:50, 10 July 2009  (UTC)
 * Bye. Albrect Karew 01:24, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

FA NEF I wouldn't call it "fix" but yeah they nerf the colunms/beam where you dont usually get hit 1) inner gates 2) portal near outer gates when the turtle shoots you get hit even though you're hiding.--Ridz16 05:24, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I think they just project the bug list on the wall with a beamer and throw darts to see which bugs they are going to try to fix - Koda Kumi [[Image:User_Koda_Kumi_UT.jpeg‎|19px]] talk 15:50, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * No, they have all the skill/mechanic names in a hat, then pull a random one out. Even if it's not broken, Anet can "fix" it. -- <font color="Black">Gah<font color="Black">_  21:16, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

"The K-value for winning a rated match in Hero Battles remains at 5"
Haha...hahahaha...HAHAHAHAHA! Seriously? This small of an update and it has a bug? Wow....just wow. Karate  Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">18:27, 10 July 2009  (UTC)
 * Wtb live testers. -- Halogod35  [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|15px]] 19:17, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * This and the map rotation need to be listed and reported as bugs. [[Image:User DrogoBoffin sig icon.png]] DrogoBoffin 19:19, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Did they not change the map rotations? -- Halogod35  [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|15px]] 19:23, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I double Halo. Only thing we got was a new tonic. Now i'm really waiting for Live Test Krew recruit to start. This really makes me want to spend more time in here, atleast this place works somehow properly. Not a personal attack Anet! XD - <font color="Black">J.P. [[Image:User Jope12 sigicon.png]] <font color="Black">Talk  19:24, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I triple Halo. -- Halogod35  [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|15px]] 19:28, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * But seriously....how do you do an update this small.....and still not get it right? It's disheartening to say the least. Karate   Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">19:31, 10 July 2009  (UTC)
 * -- Halogod35  [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|15px]] 19:33, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I guess tearing up the ganja+not testing would do it. Karate   Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">19:35, 10 July 2009  (UTC)
 * Good question. How many times they test these things..... once?! And they have like 2-4 testers?! And as a result of these broken updates lately, i've been away from gw for 2 weeks by now. And Halo, is that somekinda joke, which only you know? :P - <font color="Black">J.P. [[Image:User Jope12 sigicon.png]] <font color="Black">Talk  19:36, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * ._. Everyone knows what that leaf is. Lmao. -- Halogod35  [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|15px]] 19:37, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ups, Jope doesn't know what weed looks like :/ Karate   Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">19:39, 10 July 2009  (UTC)
 * Ah, they've been high, that's for sure. I only now bothered to read what the link said :D - <font color="Black">J.P. [[Image:User Jope12 sigicon.png]] <font color="Black">Talk   19:39, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * And i know what marijuana looks like, i just didn't recognize it right away. And i don't see it everyday 'cause i don't live like you do halo. - <font color="Black">J.P. [[Image:User Jope12 sigicon.png]] <font color="Black">Talk  19:43, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * ._. ih8joo. -- Halogod35  [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|15px]] 19:48, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nah, don't take it too seriously. - <font color="Black">J.P. [[Image:User Jope12 sigicon.png]] <font color="Black">Talk  19:57, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Lol I'm not, don't worry. xD I don't even smoke pot. -- Halogod35  [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|15px]] 19:57, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I thought not, but you'll never know how stranger may react, this case almost a stranger. And i try to think more what i say after the discuss on my RfA page :S - <font color="Black">J.P. [[Image:User Jope12 sigicon.png]] <font color="Black">Talk  20:01, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

I guess the Live Team was like,
 * Live Team Member #1: "Duuuuude...we should probably test this shit before making it public"
 * Live Team Member #2: "Naaaah, man, shut up and pass that blunt"
 * Live Team Member #3: "Just fucking make it Live, they already know we're fuck-ups. They'll just bitch for a few days and then forget about it like they did with the XTH."
 * Live Team Member #1: "Oh, yea, duuuuude this job is awesome!".

Karate  Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">20:06, 10 July 2009  (UTC)
 * Something like that. And when the crack comes in? And i'll never forget this update :D - <font color="Black">J.P. [[Image:User Jope12 sigicon.png]] <font color="Black">Talk  20:08, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Owned. @J.P. you'll be known in about a month or two, if you keep this work up. And Blunt = Crack -- Halogod35  [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|15px]] 20:09, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry my drug dictionary is almost empty. - <font color="Black">J.P. [[Image:User Jope12 sigicon.png]] <font color="Black">Talk  20:11, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * It's better that way. -- Halogod35  [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|15px]] 20:13, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Blunt is also a term used to describe a doobie or a self-rolled ganja cig. I've heard it used for chronic, but not often. Karate   Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">20:14, 10 July 2009  (UTC)
 * Yeah, I just said it was crack, just for short description. -- Halogod35  [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|15px]] 20:16, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Just noticed a little error on Community News on official site. - <font color="Black">J.P. [[Image:User Jope12 sigicon.png|18px]] <font color="Black">Talk  21:06, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Can't wait until it's clear that tonics didn't change either. That would be the cherry on top :D - <font color="Black">J.P. [[Image:User Jope12 sigicon.png|18px]] <font color="Black">Talk  21:08, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Watch it happen. -- Halogod35  [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|15px]] 21:10, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I almost hope XD - <font color="Black">J.P. [[Image:User Jope12 sigicon.png|18px]] <font color="Black">Talk  21:11, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * By the way, the link tells you it's marijuana. --<font color="darkBlue">syn // <font color="Black">talk  [[Image:User_Syntheticfibers_imgsig.png|19px| Contributions]] 03:59, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Epic. Fucking. Fail.
Just so I'm clear, after reading the above section... all this did was replace the tonic of the month? lmao, can't believe I even bothered restarting Guild Wars for this. -- <font color="Black">Gah<font color="Black">_  21:14, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Add to notes: "Refrained from fixing a bug that caused Anet to be worse at the game than a 4-year-old." -- <font color="Black">Gah<font color="Black">_  21:24, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I haven't been playing gw for a while, since it's so broken right now. Anet just says that they can't fix the problem (like SF), so they fix the problem around it (keg farm). I don't see any logic in this. - <font color="Black">J.P. [[Image:User Jope12 sigicon.png|18px]] <font color="Black">Talk  21:26, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * They wanted to keep perma sf -- Halogod35  [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|15px]] 22:29, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * It's the easier way: fix things around a major issue so that the major issue isn't so big. Can you imagine what they're going to do for the UWSC fixes.  <font color="Black">000.00.00.00  22:30, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Take UW out of the game? Karate   Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">22:31, 10 July 2009  (UTC)
 * @ gah: added the note to my dream update. -- Halogod35  [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|15px]] 22:38, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * WAIT! I was wrong! It wasn't just the tonic that allegedly changed - decorations were removed as well! I revoke everything I said, Anet... this made the update worth it, in its entirety, and I'm sure you'll fix the game soon. (*breaks down, laughing*) -- <font color="Black">Gah<font color="Black">_   23:45, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * @Halo: Yes, it's all about what they want. They don't care what we think is wrong in this game. Perma (in some cases 600/smite) takes away all the challenge from the game.I call these 2 methods Boringway. Sure it's fun at first to see how easy many areas are with these, but nowdays you can't find a group to do hard areas in Funway. I'm not even sure is Anet really gonna listen to us (though the idea came from them) even after Feedback namespace is ready. We'll see. - <font color="Black">J.P. [[Image:User Jope12 sigicon.png|18px]] <font color="Black">Talk  10:52, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 * This sorta BS is why I quit! ^.^ 71.56.197.124 12:37, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't forget they did manage to change GvG from 5 to 15 though. -- Halogod35  [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|15px]] 02:53, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

GvG Tournament Rotation
Tolkano lists the maps in this order: Warrior, Druid, Uncharted, Corrupted, Meditation. But my guild just played this order: Mediation, Bye, Uncharted, Corrupted, and then finished. In addition, the people in the first match were also confused. Albrect Karew 01:13, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Should we add that as an update note too, or do you think Anet is embarrassed enough as is? -- <font color="Black">Gah<font color="Black">_  16:04, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I think the rotation was fixed, the newer tournaments are in the right order, but two yesterday definitely were not. Albrect Karew 17:33, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Nice to see ANet putting time into this game
The amount of manpower that this month's updates took must have been immense. Hope they were paid overtime. Your's truly, --God --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:64.135.226.49 (talk).
 * Didn't know that 9th of july was the ONLY thursday they could have an update on. We still got couple more weeks in this month. quit your complaining. 24.233.254.51 23:25, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You expectation of updates are very low standards. for the next update, no skill balance. the year has a lot of thursdays.--64.237.128.218 03:52, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

I can understand taking a little break this month....
...Seeing as they fixed an entire class and made paragons a little bit better. But WHY do we still have skills like Signet of Spirits, which would be awesome if it actually worked right? Seriously Anet, You fixed Vampirism, which had the exact same bug, and you still havn't fixed SoS?

Or did you guys magically forget what you did to -fix- vampirism? 76.188.221.120 16:18, 11 July 2009 (UTC)


 * "fixed an entire class" - PvE ONLY doesn't count as fixing.
 * It's a start... i guess 82.176.174.199 17:17, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 * They also didn't fix anything. Most skills still suck, but now they can spam spirts. *fapfapfap* --God --The preceding unsigned comment was added by God from the IP address 64.135.226.49 (talk)
 * God faps??? :( 71.132.131.45 02:53, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure, If you want it to. You can control what your imaginary friends do. 24.233.254.51 01:52, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * if we were created to his image, god can get arouse too. yay for no restriction on the wiki.--67.224.170.119 03:18, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * If god created humans in his image, and humans are flawed and generally stupid, what does that say about him? ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 03:22, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * BURN -- Halogod35  [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|15px]] 03:28, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yay, religious debate on the wiki! My work here is done.  --Jette  [[Image:User_Jette_awesome.png|19px]] 04:03, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I think you just used the word "debate" rather loosely. More like "mentally handicapped pissing competition", or something. I don't fucking know anymore... Karate   Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">04:06, 17 July 2009  (UTC)
 * Well, any conversation about religion is going to devolve into two different colored groups of monkeys flinging poo at each other within three posts. I figure since that's the highest quality we can get to anyway, I should call it debate.  I find it rather amusing, since religious people talk about "peace and brotherhood and understanding" and all that while atheists are always on about "not burning people at the stake," but give either of them one moment online and they'll be spitting venom at each other faster than those hookers on TV.  --Jette  [[Image:User_Jette_awesome.png|19px]] 05:24, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * JERRY!
 * JERRY!
 * JERRY! ~Shard  [[Image:User Shard Sig Icon.png]] 05:30, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * That makes god horny and stupid. same attributes explaining this fail--67.224.170.119 03:18, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Pointless off topic wiki discussions are pointless -- smøni 03:19, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * -throws poo at Smøni- 24.233.254.51 01:07, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
 * :( -- smøni 13:45, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Guild Wars dried up!
It's been a month since the last update, no content added and no news about adding new Content in August (even though it is 4 months after the April Update). Hello? I Anet still there? do they remember that they have a game called Guild Wars? MarioDX 14:43, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * spoiled... yep you heard me... i'm sure an update will come in time... until then I'm still enjoying the content add from the last few updates... sit back... relax... but yer if it goes on for a drastic ammount of time I'd start to get concerned.... bout the only thing that makes my eyebrow raise on this time is the comment that we would be more informed about the updates, yet that has not happened... I remember the days when ya would buy software and WYSIWYG, no such thing as the internet to update anything MrPaladin talk 14:50, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I've heard that they PLAN to have a skill "balance" update in Thursday, tomorrow. But i don't think it's official.
 * And by the way, i think they said they only do monthly updates for now. They do updates between that if THEY think it's necessary or something is broken (in technical level -.-) - <font color="Black">J.P. [[Image:User Jope12 sigicon.png|18px|Contributions]] <font color="Black">Talk  15:00, 5 August 2009 (UTC)