User talk:Jon Lupen/Archive2

Greetings From Windows 7!
Glad to see another person with it. /W7 Special Highfive -- WoB  ( contribs ) 23:29, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * /highfive * &mdash; Jon   Lupen  23:29, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Fuck windows 7. -- Halogod35  [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|15px]] 02:41, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Meh, it's baiscally Vista with a few more bells and whisles, faster, more optimized, and much more stable. It's got a slightly different UI though. It's Vista v2.0 &mdash;  Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  02:57, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Internet! --75.71.67.5 02:57, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * @IP: Care to fill me in a little there? &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  02:58, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Person 1: Hey, I'm doing/using (something)!
 * Person 2: Hey, I'm doing/using (something) too! Rock on!
 * Person 3: Fuck (something).
 * Person 4: lol internet. --75.71.67.5 03:04, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Um, Windows Vista is windows 7. The original project was windows 7, but they needed a gimmick so they just threw out windows vista. -- Halogod35  [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|15px]] 03:06, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Actualy, Vista was the original project, Windows 7 was a result of the code for Vista being so sloppy and such a resource hog, as well as being buggy and unstable. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  03:08, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm, where's the source for this? xD My source is my brother. :o -- Halogod35  [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|15px]] 03:15, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * My source is Microsoft. Having trouble digging up the article or I would have linked you to it. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  03:17, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Way to go microsuck. -- Halogod35  [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|15px]] 03:23, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * It happens with every company when they get big enough and have such little competition. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  03:24, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Lol I hope apple or linux does something about it. -- Halogod35  [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|15px]] 03:52, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * It's not the most direct pressure or competition, Apple a little more so though. They are still having a push in on Microsoft a bit, getting a bit stronger as Apple expands while Microsoft is in a slump. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  04:00, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Windows 7 is vista code. It has a new kernel that is MUCH more efficient then vista's. Essentially its Windows Vista that...actually works. Dominator Matrix  23:38, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Quite so. If Vista can handle programs, applications, drivers, ect, then Windows 7 will handle it just fine, if not better. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  23:40, 12 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Not so unfortunately. Some programs are already failing...unknown though, so there probably really old apps. Windows 7 can decode so many more formats then vista, and isn't a resource hog, no please mother may I (it can though IF you want to), Media Player Slim, less apps bundled, IE8 can be removed, 16GB install, clear taskbar, boot parallel so its faster. Its what vista should have been. Dominator Matrix  22:18, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * It's Vista 2.0 &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  22:23, 22 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Not really. Windows 2000 was 5.0, XP was 5.1 (minor, only back end updates), vista was 6.0, and windows 7 is 6.1. Which means its not vista 2.0 but rather vista + .1 :P. (Hopefully this is not a trend of Microsoft to do large updates, then minor, as it would get really annoying). Dominator Matrix  00:47, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * To be technical about it, (which I normally am) yes. Here is hoping Microsoft remembers what they learned with Vista and Windows 7, and we don't have another Vista repeat with our next major OS. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  01:11, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Lol, hopefully the p.o.s. won't be so bad. -- Halogod35  [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|15px]] 02:26, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * XP was pretty far from a POS and Windows 7 is mcuh better than XP after all the time I've spent on it. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  02:41, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Lol, my bro just ripped the skin from windows 7 and put it on his XP. -- Halogod35  [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|15px]] 12:09, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * XP is older and unsupported, he is more likely to get hacked or viruses among other things. He should upgrade to Windows 7 when it comes out. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  14:46, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, he doesn't get viruses cause he knows what he's doing and everything. Besides he keeps hacking me lol QQ. -- Halogod35  [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|15px]] 18:44, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * There are security holes in every OS, granted they are usually patched up as soon as they are found, but XP is no longer supported, so will have to fend for its self. Eventually, someone is going to find one (or more) in XP, and you'll soon have viruses that know how to get into your computer and past your anti-virus and protective software. I know what I'm doing out on the web, my machines are locked down like Fort Knox, and I've still gotten a virus or two on one of them (running XP still). It's bad practice to run an unsupported OS for too long, you'll quickly hit the point where all your vital software no longer supports your OS, driver's won't install for it, ect. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  18:50, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I know, I just pirate the things I need and save them on an install archive cd, it works for me. -- Halogod35  [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|15px]] 12:00, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

I just don't pirate, period. &mdash; Jon    Lupen  17:47, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * GG -- Halogod35  [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|15px]] 12:07, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

D2
Shard and I were thinking about hosting a Diablo 2 night for some of the people here on the wiki to join and kinda get to meet us. Knowing your addiction as I do, perhaps this is a dangerous offer?-- *Yasmin Parvaneh*  22:22, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Ha, just a tad. Given time and effort, I've learned to keep things under wraps. The main issue is time though, when being the big question. I'm lucky to find time to wiki as in-frequently as I do during the week, but the weekends are a lot more open. Keep me posted, I'll see if I can pull something together. Oh, and I'll be free game for pretty much anything after May 16th, as that's graduation for me. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  22:30, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Shard re-installed last night, and I need to get my copy out of storage (we recently moved--again--and I have it packed up) plus I need to get hamatchi again, so it will be a little while before we actually set it up.-- *Yasmin Parvaneh* [[Image:User_yasmin_parvaneh_sig.png]] 23:00, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Alright, which reminds me, I need to re-install my copy fo Diablo 2 also. A few things haven't made it back onto my computer since the Vista install, but then again, I haven't played it in so long. If I can make it, I'll be there. Playing as a Necromancer and Barbarian was a lot of fun. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  23:05, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Vista made me install it in safemode a few months ago...did it make you do that too?-- *Yasmin Parvaneh* [[Image:User_yasmin_parvaneh_sig.png]] 23:06, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Idk, I'll find out as soon as I dig up my disks. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  23:09, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * *Update* No, Vista didn't require me to install it in safe mode. Odd. Why is it that Diablo 2 can auto-patch but not World of Warcraft? &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  23:59, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I guess diablo 2 is more simple and easier to patch. -- Halogod35  [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|15px]] 19:30, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

NPA
Regardless what people like to think, insinuating that we're a bunch of idiots is not good PR, and as such I would call the people doing such things morons.

But hey, if I get banned oh well, not like I can't create new accounts via proxy or anything. --Dazra/Ryuujinx 04:26, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Where did you get it from the Gaile was insinuating that we are all a "bunch of idiots"? I've been around long enough and been around enough to know that Gaile insulting someone, or implying an insult is just not possible. Don't read into comments deeper than they were written. Don't go looking for hidden messages when people are being up-front about it. Also, you don't repay insults with insults. An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  04:31, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, if you don't clean up your act, your proxies will just get banned, and any time you go around hatemongering, your only going to get your words deleted or burried in an archive somewhere very fast. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  04:38, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * "Watch yourself. Shard has been blocked a fair number of times, and for great lengths of time for crossing that line a fair number of times, often in the same manor as you just did. — Jon Lupen 04:14, 16 April 2009 (UTC) Retrieved from "http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User_talk:Dazra"
 * You crack me up everytime you say that!-- *Yasmin Parvaneh* [[Image:User_yasmin_parvaneh_sig.png]] 05:28, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I laugh at that, I have no intention of trying to get banned, but if you honestly think you can ban every proxy out there... kudos to you, a quick google search reveals more then a few, in addition every time I restart my phone it likes to give me a new IP.. but whatever. "Yes, that's right. Would you like me to explain that damn / body part thing to you? I mean, I can go off on the whole linguistic differences between derivations of the word "doom" and references to body parts, but I don't imagine you really need the education." directed at me or not, is an insinuation at their intelligence. You don't have to look far to find bad PR. But I'll be fair, Square Enix, Blizzard and NCsoft aren't any better. --Dazra/Ryuujinx 06:24, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * @DazraI know fair number of people that are quite intelligent, but not very well informed in certain areas. For example, questioning someone's computer knowledge is not insinuation at their intelligence, as they could very well know more about math or physics than I do. Doubting somoene's knowledge in a certain area is not doubting their intelligence.
 * @Yasmin:Serious question, what's so funny about that? Am I missing something? &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  17:57, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Shard is your example...anytime you mention NPA, banning, blocking or the sort, his name is always attached. Its just funny to me--in a cute way. Its almost like a catch phrase.-- *Yasmin Parvaneh* [[Image:User_yasmin_parvaneh_sig.png]] 18:19, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, He's just the one that comes to mind first. If I were to mention vandalism, Raptors is the first one that would come to mind. Shard has a record for himself, when he cleans up his record, (which he is doing a good job of from what I've seen) I'll rethink who I use for examples of NPA breaches. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  20:26, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * "No one" is a pretty good one tbh. -- [[Image:User Brains12 circle sig.png|18px|]] Brains12 \ talk 20:31, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I usually follow the "Event -> Effects -> Example" format, but I could easily omit the "Example" step if you would like. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  20:56, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

30 pc games
is a pretty lacking list. it didn't even mention baldur's gate 2, which is probably the best pc game I've ever played for a myriad of reasons, and starcraft wasn't actually listed, only mentioned in passing. people could easily skip bad games like civ 4, rome total war, hitman, or grand prix legends for either of those :/ (and more to the point, while EVE is a complex MMO, wow is a superior game - someone looking to try a bit of everything should honestly trial both to see what's what). tl;dr don't put much stock in that list, because it kinda sucks - Auron 05:28, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * It was a lot better than I was expecting. Most of those kinds of lists top with Halo 1-3 depending on when they were published. :/ --75.71.65.109 05:31, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * any list with halo 2 or 3 on it is an automatic fail. halo 1 was actually pretty groundbreaking when it came out, following wolfenstein/doom and goldeneye as revolutionary FPS games. i agree, i wouldn't put halo 1 on a list of must-try pc games, but it would definitely be on the list of must-try fps games. - Auron 05:34, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Totally agree with BG2 belonging there. &mdash; Why [[Image:User Why s.png|User talk:Why Are We Fighting]] 15:34, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * If they made halo with halo 3's special sttuff (like dual weilding and swords and good graphics) That would so be kick ass. Also, it would have to keep halo's weapons and damage ratio. Cause I loved the pistol so much, it was a must keep weapon. -- Halogod35  [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|15px]] 15:49, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * @Auron: I'm not putting too much stock in it, it's just one group's opinions, and they are entitled to it. It still points the light on some pretty good games though. I was actually surprised to see a lack of Star Craft on there. Have you played Eve Auron? &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  22:11, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * An hundred years ago. - Auron 14:56, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Come again? &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  20:22, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * He played Eve long time ago. -- Halogod35  [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|15px]] 21:15, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

My ranger.
If you remember that old discussion about what ranger armour I should get? Well I've decided.. Primeval. xD -- Halogod35   01:13, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Nice, excelent choice. :) &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  01:33, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Psh, Norn FTW.-- [[Image:User_Vanguard_VanguardLogo.png|19px]] anguard  01:35, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Norn is nice too. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  01:35, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * om nom nom nom-- [[Image:User_Vanguard_VanguardLogo.png|19px]] anguard  01:41, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I already have Norn, on my thumper xD -- Halogod35  [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|15px]] 01:48, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Template:Datediff
Idk what you mean by this, but it might be useful. :P &mdash; Why  15:42, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't know if it's sad or not that I'm already counting down the days this far out, but things will be clear with time. Right now some plans need to be more firm before I say more than I know. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  21:22, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, and thanks for the heads up on the template. :) &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  23:15, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem :D &mdash; Why [[Image:User Why s.png|User talk:Why Are We Fighting]] 23:57, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

By the way
I was wondering, have you ever heard of poke's Guild Wars Wiki Tools? Judging from the custom tabs you placed on your page you haven't, 'cus they interfere with it. That's not a problem, but it made me wonder. Daily GWW life is so much easier with poke's toolkit. :P &mdash; Why  00:28, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * No, I haven't. I'll have to check it out. Thanks for the tip. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  00:30, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

NWN
Our forum is up for Sanctaria. Since you play D2 with us, you might like our NWN module.-- *Yasmin Parvaneh*  07:59, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll be sure to check it out when I have a moment. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  16:50, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I apparently had an interesting night the other day when you boys were playing D2.-- *Yasmin Parvaneh* [[Image:User_yasmin_parvaneh_sig.png]] 21:46, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Extremely. :) &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  21:50, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Every day the number drops
and I am getting more and more curious. It's near the time college starts, right? At least, my 2nd year at uni will start the 1st of September, something like that. &mdash; Why 21:40, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Past that but yes, it is close. I start college (first year) August 24th and the count-down is until Spetember 4th. More on that soon.
 * On another count-down note, I'm out of high school in eight days (including the weekend, and not counting today because it's pretty much over). =D In a way, I actually can't wait for college, for two reasons. First off, I'll finally get away from a good number of the apathetic slackers and scum that inhabit public schools, and secondly, I'll be starting programming classes again. I loved my programming and computers classes, until I exausted my school's suppply of them last year... &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  21:50, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Wew, sounds good ^^ I still want to learn programming, but I'm just too busy at the moment. Besides, I'd probably not have any talent for it anyway. It took me ages to figure out wikicode. :P How old are you actually, if I may ask? &mdash; Why [[Image:User Why s.png|User talk:Why Are We Fighting]] 22:55, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * As my java teacher once said, "Programming is as much a state of mind as it is knowledge and talent." I have a feeling I'm going to have even less time than you once college starts up. I'm 18, if you would like to know. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  00:08, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I highly doubt that, but I'd feel very sorry for you if you turn out to be right. Lol. Also, 18 ftw. I don't look forward to my birthday in 2 months, 19 sounds... different. Somehow I prefer 18. But hey, I suppose that'll change once I'm 19. &mdash; Why [[Image:User Why s.png|User talk:Why Are We Fighting]] 00:12, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * A large part of programming is not just how much code you know, it's how well you can use it and such. I personally found it to be true, but that's just me. Now, if you will excuse me, I need to take some leave of the wiki and stop stealing time from finishing my late term paper. :P Late due to the giant snowball pile of work I'm behind on, on account of my skiing accident back in February. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  00:29, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I suppose that'll learn you to be nice to trees in the future :P Good luck ;) &mdash; Why [[Image:User Why s.png|User talk:Why Are We Fighting]] 00:31, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey! The trees need to be nice to me! I'm the one that came out of the ordeal in worse shape than I started! X) &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  03:08, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

So.. School's out for you? -- Halogod35   18:26, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, just got out today. :) &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  01:13, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You luck ass lol just kidding. xD --  Halogod35  [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|15px]] 16:10, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Lucky? Pfft. I'd love to be back in school atm. You think you never get tired of "summer", but when it lasts for more than just the 1-2 months... Vili &#x70B9; [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 21:47, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, don't get me wrong, I love some of my classes, a few I'm indifferent towards though. For me, it's the apathetic slackers that ruin it. I consider myself lucky in that I don't have to deal with a large number of those people anymore. It's certain people I'm glad to be away from, not the classes. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  01:27, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Temperature
I thought I'd ask you first. The area around my laptop (specifically the exhaust port) floats around 120-135 degrees, peaking at 143 rarely. Is that a problem? I run Folding @ Home on this one whenever I'm plugged in (uses one whole processor), sometimes for hours at a time when I'm not actually using my laptop. -- Antioch 16:37, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Is this fahrenheit or celsius? If the temps are in fahrenheit, then that's around 60 degrees celcius and your fine. Laptops are more prone to heat problems than desktops because of their size and compression. If celsius, then your laptop is getting God-awfully hot, and you have reason to worry. My video cards (yes, two of them) peak around 80-90 celcius and those things are monsters. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  16:43, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Forgot to mention that! Yes, Fahrenheit.  Is there any way to find out the actual temperature of the processor, not just the exhaust? --[[Image:User PoA Sig.png|Talk]] Antioch 16:45, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Core Temp can help you out with that. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  16:48, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 65/62 C. Thanks. --[[Image:User PoA Sig.png|Talk]] Antioch 17:02, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem, happy to help. :) &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  17:16, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Would be kind of fun if it was in Celsius ^^ [[Image:User_Teo_Sig_Icon.JPG|Click Here]] ^ Teo ^ 11:50, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Your butttons
obscure my tabs. -- Brains12 \ talk 15:32, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, I'll see what I can do about that. Any suggestions? &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  15:34, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Move them down a bit or add them to your monobook, perhaps? You could use something like the latest update template design, for example how Aiiane has. Since none of the interface would be covered by something like that, it might be a better idea. -- [[Image:User Brains12 circle sig.png|18px|]] Brains12 \ talk 15:38, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Alright, I'll get to work on that. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  15:40, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Taken care of. As long as they are on my user page, they will serve their purpose. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  16:01, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, hope it wasn't too much trouble. I'm sure you can keep the tab look for yourself by editing your js/css (one of those jiggerypokery pages), although I don't exactly know how. -- [[Image:User Brains12 circle sig.png|18px|]] Brains12 \ talk 16:28, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem. I couldn't exactly figure out my monobook, so I figured this would hold over until I got that figured out. Just something so I still have the links in a not so disruptive way. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  16:31, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

I..
...wasn't trying to gain anything from it. I was merely giving a good 'ol bud chum of mine a pretty, sparkly little link and everyone got all defensive and acted as if Lemming was their daughter whom just got their barbie stolen. ^.^ there was no real harm intended, and, well.... what can i say? :D - L ena   talk 18:17, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * What your intentions were and what everyone else thought they were are often completely different. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  18:20, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Indeed they are. - L ena   talk 18:21, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * When people get defensive like that, either clarify your intentions to dispell any misunderstanding, and quickly, or leave and give them a victory. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  18:23, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

As much as you speak the truth on what I should do, I just simply can't. I'd rather just let them they try and figure out/make up unique stories of who I am (and enjoy reading the 49450342394 different stories each person throws at me). >:) - L ena   talk 18:26, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Stories, or rocks and knives they throw at you? &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  18:29, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Mmm... Both, tbh. :) - L ena   talk 18:31, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * That's borderline war mongering for the fun of it. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  18:34, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

lol - L ena   talk 18:37, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * There is a special corner of Hell reserved for those that take pleasure in commiting such a monstrous act. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  18:39, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * "you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater." Just keep that in mind. --JonTheMon 19:15, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

lmfao!!!!! ok... that SO just made my day. thank you for that, jon. that was funny as hell-- ESPECIALLY since i've been up for ~29 hours now w/ no sleep. xDDDDDD - L ena   talk 18:42, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You seem to have missed the part where I'm not laughing. Seriously, your playing with some very dangerous chemicals like a child's toy. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  18:44, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * erm, just to clarify-- i don't take wiki no where near seriously enough to consider it "dangerous chemicals around a child".... or what not.... anyways, i'm off to bed... maybe we'll continue this convorsation of ours later, you little chemical spiller of love you. ;) - L ena  [[Image:User_Lena_Sig.png]] talk 18:47, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You may not take the wiki seriously, but plenty of others do. Look beyond yourself and stand in their shoes. Friends may come and go, but enemies accumulate. You stand in a position to very easily accumulate a very large number of enemies, many of them very powerful. Mix your chemicals carefully, many of them explode, and when they do, you'll have blood and war on your hands. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  18:51, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Are you serious? Mini Me  [[Image:User Mini Me sig.png|19px|talk]] 19:36, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * If I wasn't serious, you wouldn't have to ask that question. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  19:37, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * So you're serious? Mini Me  [[Image:User Mini Me sig.png|19px|talk]] 19:39, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Very. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  19:40, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't believe you. Mini Me  [[Image:User Mini Me sig.png|19px|talk]] 19:42, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Then don't. I'm not forcing you to. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  19:43, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Well if you are serious... You're taking this wiki waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too serious. Mini Me  [[Image:User Mini Me sig.png|19px|talk]] 19:45, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * It's more of the people on it than the wiki its self. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  19:46, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Why? Mini Me  [[Image:User Mini Me sig.png|19px|talk]] 19:47, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * To put it simply, it's the way I'm wired. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  19:56, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Works for me. Mini Me  [[Image:User Mini Me sig.png|19px|talk]] 19:58, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty much like that. -- Halogod35  [[Image:User Halogod35 Sig.jpg|15px]] 20:56, 22 May 2009 (UTC)