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where is the goddamn skill update?
give it to me>.< - Wuhy   15:29, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * *Sigh* -1 (For the above comment of course, we don't want to create wrong intentions,right?) -- Cyan [[Image:User Cyan Light sig.jpg|19px]] 15:31, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * -1 - Wuhy  [[Image:User_Wuhy_sig.jpg]] 15:38, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * do want Infested Hydralisk  15:38, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Patience young ones. &mdash; Jon  [[Image:User_Jon_Lupen_Sig_Image.png|18px]]  Lupen  15:49, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I think patience is a virtue ANet has managed to eradicate from their population with their tardiness, false promises and general shitness. --92.14.218.64 15:52, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

We haven't had a major skill update in 6 months anet. The meta is dead and I know you don't want to change things up right before double gvg weekend and a week before the mAT, but seriously this is getting old--TahiriVeila 16:02, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * fuck patience, this is getting worse and worse. - Wuhy  [[Image:User_Wuhy_sig.jpg]] 16:13, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Wait, did someone just agree with me?--TahiriVeila 16:18, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * /agree --92.14.218.64 16:20, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * looking at her journal from 04 dec, i think they havent started with it before that date :/ Infested Hydralisk  16:30, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Are you sure you want a major skill update? It took them a year to fix the last one :/. Meh, it has been 6 months since we got anything even mildly resembling a skill "update". I guess it's time for a new one... Karate [[File:User Karate Jesus KJ for sig.png]] Jesus  16:53, 11 December 2009  (UTC)
 * Tbh, we've gone past the stage of "come on guys, if we nerf a few things and balance a few things this game will be balanced for pvp and fun again!", and now we are in the stage of, "no one cares lets make a massive update change lots of things and watch the lolz ensue", I fully support the latter. --Frosty  [[Image:User Frosty Frostcharge sig.jpg|19px]] 16:56, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * ^ things aren't much less broken than they were right after dec 2008 update (lol 1/2s dagger attacks + expertise) and the meta is just boring. I'd rather a new update that makes thing sexciting for a while even if it breaks the game a bit more than to just continue with this boredom.--TahiriVeila 16:57, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I believe everyone agrees, and they disagree a few weeks after the new meta has been on. Screw tomorrow's worries. -- -Chaos- (talk) -- 21:27, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * even if it changes the meta, i dont care Infested Hydralisk  21:28, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Q.Q more everyone. Its not like yesterday was the last chance for them to update the game. stop bitching and be patient. pers  onn5 [[Image:User_Personn5_sig.jpg|19px]] 21:30, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Yea, everyone. It's only been 6 months since we had a real skill update. Oh....wait.... Karate [[File:User Karate Jesus KJ for sig.png]] Jesus  21:35, 11 December 2009  (UTC)
 * Yeah, why don't we just be patient until gw2, it'll only be like, another 12 months!--TahiriVeila 21:49, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * why would i buy gw2, other then the charr looking really awesome? <font color="#000000">Infested <font color="#CD0000">Hydralisk  22:27, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Stop being bad IH, the thunderballs are sparkly and cute. Pika Fan 00:01, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
 * its oke, but needs more Psionic Storms <font color="#000000">Infested <font color="#CD0000">Hydralisk  01:10, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Not jumpin on the ANGRY train here... but the least they could do is make good on their plans to give us the rough draft of what's expected to change... That'd give most people here enough food-for-thought to tide them over. (though personally I think just giving us the exact Details on the SF changes would be more than enough) -- ilr  23:39, 11 December 2009 (UTC)


 * It is here *points inside nose*. Just imagine how hard must be to figure a way yo change Shadow Form to be less excessive, but upsetting farmers as less as possible. It will take time until they see it's impossible and make something else, XD. Mith[[Image:User MithranArkanere Star.png]]Talk 00:28, 12 December 2009 (UTC)


 * RAGE FLAME RAWR GNASH TEETHE ANET YOU SUCK BITCH MOAN WHINE COMPLAIN! Please cry less. >.> Briar 00:47, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Cry less about other people crying--TahiriVeila 01:13, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Cry less about other people crying about crying. Let's make a convo, we can do it! -- -Chaos- (talk) -- 01:46, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Tbh, this whole argument could be made just by saying, "Go obs sometime." The meta is ridiculous right now, and I've heard that they obs....so surely they know right? I mean....it's bad everywhere... <font color="Black" face="cambria">Karate  <font color="Black" face="cambria">Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">01:17, 12 December 2009  (UTC)
 * If you were Regina, would you even bother to answer this crap? Wuhy, next time you start something in the way you started this, expect a ban. -- Wyn [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon2.png|19px ]] talk  01:37, 12 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Wuhy and others this applies to: If you're going to be rude, please don't comment. -- Regina Buenaobra [[Image:User_Regina_Buenaobra_sig.png]] 02:13, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
 * If you want positive feedback, then I can give you a huge wall of hearts just for responding to comments <3 -- -Chaos- (talk) -- 02:16, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
 * There won't be positive feedback without positive output. Also, they were rude, yes, but they asked you a question. If you're just going to come and respond to troll the trolls, and not to release answers, I wouldn't respond if I were you, either. -- <font color="Black">Tha Reckoning [[Image:User Tha Reckoning Sig2.jpg|19x19px]] 02:19, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
 * ^ oshit! Good response. <font color="Black" face="cambria">Karate [[File:User Karate Jesus KJ for sig.png]] <font color="Black" face="cambria">Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">02:25, 12 December 2009  (UTC)
 * ^ there's no point in telling us to be rude. I don't understand why you can't simply tell us, skill update wasn't ready this month hopefully we'll have it for January. Instead of doing a bug patch the day we normally expect a skill update, not publishing patch notes for 24 hrs, and then ignore the annoyance of the community, why didn't you just let us know the skill update wouldn't be happening this week? I don't see how that could possibly be an overburden or be releasing critical information the community shouldn't know. =\--TahiriVeila 02:34, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
 * @Wyn: If I were in Community Relations, yes, I sure as hell would. [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  04:44, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
 * @Tahiri. So rude. She might have answered, if asked nicely. I don't blame her for her answer. I blame the others for not asking correctly. -- [[File:User Ariyen sig icon.gif]] riyen ♥ 05:07, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I blame others for QQing cuz theyre so hell bent against playing meta that they have to bitch about good skills and flame ANet untill theyre Crying and Footstomping gets them what they want. Theres a word for people who do that. Its called crybaby. And theyre always stomping their feet saying "SKILLS NEED TO SUCK MORE THEN THEY ALREADY DO!" Im sure that pisses devs off to no end. >.> Briar 07:28, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I was talking about pvp =\ Playing the same builds for 6 months because the meta doesn't change because there's no skill updates gets really boring--TahiriVeila 07:32, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I suggest starting a new meta build. Its challenging and entertaining to see what clever little gimmicks you can come up with. ^.^ try it. its fun. Briar 07:37, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Except that PvP is not balanced enough to draw some lines on paper and build a new team setup around it. If you have not noticed, most teams consist of abusing your PA, spamming overpowered skills over and over, and lame gimmicks. And gimmicks are bad for a game that should promote skill.  Koda  [[Image:User_Koda_Kumi_UT.jpeg‎|19px]]  Kumi  09:31, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Truely skillful players should be able to beat gimmicks. ^.^ <3 Briar 10:01, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Briar you are retarded. Please stfu. Regina, you are Community Manager, do some fucking Community Managing instead of saying "don't be rude, it hurts ma feelings". Perhaps people wouldn't be rude if you actually fucking did something worthwhile every half a year? --92.14.218.64 11:01, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Dude, wtf is your problem? Tbh, you don't deserve crap, nor does any of you who come here every single day and post your rants for all the world to see. I mean, with what right do you come here to demand anything? And don't come up with the excuse that since Anet broke the game they should be the one to fix it. They don't have to do anything, they created a game, they sold millions of copies and all they owe you is continuing to host the servers. They are not required to make updates every single month and they, in no way, should put up with the load of crap you're spewing at them. - Reanimated X 11:48, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
 * LMFAO! That nub IP Vandalized my page. ROFLROFLROFL! But srsly, guy, please gtfo. Stop stomping your feet and crying cuz you cant roll meta. What ANet does with their game is theirs to decide. not anyone elses. When we start PAYING for updates THEN yall can start bitching about what nots happening in them. But since your not, you need to stop crying. Srsly. With love, <3 Briar 11:58, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Regina has been nowhere near rude to anyone of you, stop flaming her for doing a job none of you couldn't do anywhere near as well. Wuhy was unthoughtful to post a comment like that, and Regina doesn't have to answer to idiocy. But can everyone seriously just shut the fuck up, because I think Regina has more important things to do than read through nonsensical walls of text. Bring it on the damn talkpage of game updates or something, just to leave her alone. -- -Chaos- (talk) -- 12:25, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
 * to be rude or not depends on who u are if a securety guy says to gtfo thats not rude its normal but if mr president does well its definatly rude and what regina buenobra did there 'was' rude she isnt in her jobtime writin here but she doesnt stop who shes and has still some things to do or to dont do 127.0.0.1 12:34, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't care. Shut up. -- -Chaos- (talk) -- 12:36, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

GW is dead anyway. Stop caring. Dark Morphon 15:54, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Just wow
You may not be able to answer this, and I know I hate these types of questions, but how is it possible that someone has this much money? I mean, at that exchange rate that would be 67 stacks of ectoplasm. I feel like that person could single-handedly bottom out the GW economy if he/she wanted to. A) How does someone get that much money and B) Is this type of player at all a concern of the Live team? ( Satanael |  talk ) 18:38, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
 * It is entirely possible that somebody could have that much money. Also there are players that have ebayed gold and were not banned because they contacted and admitted to Anet staff that they did so. I know of 2 people right off the top of my head. I could probably name about 10. [[Image:User DrogoBoffin sig icon.png]] Drogo Boffin 18:48, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I think it was Lena who sent me a screen shot of his monk's inventory full of stacks of 250 ecto filling every slot.-- *Yasmin Parvaneh* [[Image:User_yasmin_parvaneh_sig.png]] 19:00, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The same screenshot that Teal used. LoL. [[Image:User DrogoBoffin sig icon.png]] Drogo Boffin 19:01, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Lol you care about ecto ? There are people who have that many armbraces and didn't even have to dupe.Once you get to high end merching the profits you make are simply insane (After 3 weeks of merching I made about 100p profit a day and that wasn't even close to high end ;)) Lilondra  [[Image:User_Lilondra_Sig.jpg|21x21px]] 19:10, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Lil said what I wanted to. Ambrace duping. NuVII  [[Image:User NuclearVII signature 3.jpg|19x19px]] 19:18, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

*Rolls eyes* Of course, I should have known I would get the "That's nothin' you should see my buddy, he has infinity money" response. That's not the point, I wasn't trying to say that this person has more money than anybody else. I'm just saying that it's too much, people shouldn't be able to accumulate that much wealth in the game, they become dangerous. And the ambrace guys aren't as dangerous as the ecto guys because ectos can be sold at a trader, which could drive the price of ectos down to nothing if they wanted to. ( Satanael |  talk ) 21:01, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm confused... So what you're saying is Ectos are our $USD? And This guy is China, who plans to sink the rest of our awful economy b/c we can't store enough Gold and Platinum anymore? Wouldn't that make ShadowFarmers "the Fed" then?  If so, we could probably tag this question already answered according to Regina's last Journal  >.>  -- ilr [[image:User_ilr_deprav.png]] 22:24, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

I'll admit I don't know much about the GW economy, but how is it bad for items to become more affordable for more players? This is in reference to Sat's comment about the price of ectos getting driven down. That would, however, make them more accessible to more players, as I said, which I don't think would be a bad thing. I'm just asking, as it seems a bit odd that such a thing would be considered bad. --Nathe 01:34, 17 December 2009 (UTC)


 * You dont even have to buy gold. or do anything like that. just staying ahead of the game and paying attention to new farms. For instance, lets say this person had been solo-monking UW back when that was still do-able. Then after that he found out about perma. Then after that RR day. So on and so fourth. If you really think about it that much money isnt all that hard to get. it would take an annoyingly long ammount of grind sure, but its completely feasible to do on your own with no outside sources. i myself made 2 stacks of zkeys from a single solitary RR day. And zkeys and ectos are fairly close in price range. or were back when RR day was still around. >.> Briar 11:14, 17 December 2009 (UTC)


 * It's called inflation, and it's bad because everyone else that already has ectos and uses them for trade would suddenly have worthless items. Imagine if you had a stack of ectos you were planning to use to buy some super cool and really rare weapon that you wanted, and suddenly ectos could be purchased from traders at 100g, no one would accept your stack at a proper value and all that work farming them would be wasted.
 * Also, making ectos more affordable won't make things easier for the players that don't already have ectos, either, because the price change would only be temporary, but in that time a vast number of people would have purchased huge quantities of ectos. And all along the super rare weapons that cost 100k or more will still be super rare, but since so many people will be "rich" the price of those things will skyrocket. That will make it even more impossible for the people who didn't cash in on the ecto inflation to get the cool rare stuff they want. ( Satanael |  talk ) 15:07, 17 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Satanel: A) It would be remiss of me to speculate on how random players spend their gaming time, so I'm not sure. B) If you have a specific person to report, you can submit a support ticket. -- Regina Buenaobra [[Image:User_Regina_Buenaobra_sig.png]] 02:32, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

lost all cant recall name !!
I got a few acc to keep old armor and req 9 stuff all I got is the email and pw to lock in... after so many years the email is dead and cant recall the name of the players are U killing me..all my armor


 * You have not lost all. As noted in the FAQ about the update, please contact customer support, and they will help you out. -- Regina Buenaobra [[Image:User_Regina_Buenaobra_sig.png]] 02:47, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

can U in anyway call back the update 1-2 days so I can get the names and recover my stuff and acc...!!
 * dude you can just contact support and secondly it sounds like it isnt your account anyway.- [[Image:User_Zesbeer_sig.png|link=User talk:Zesbeer‎]] Zesbeer 03:21, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
 * @189.153.236.197: Check your screenshots if you have any. That's the only tip I can give you. --[[Image:User_Qaletaqa_sig_icon.jpg|talk]] Qaletaqa Hania  09:38, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

great I..I lost my armor all the good req 9..dust..bones..iron...nice xmas gift from anet to me...might go stab myself.
 * Are you retarded? - Mini Me   talk  13:08, 22 December 2009

Real or not, this is EXACTLY a good reason why A.net adding this "feature" is more of a PITA than a benefit to anyone. It's *unreasonable* of them to expect someone to have to contact support. As I pointed out elsewhere, someone returning after some significant time away is rather likely to remember their user/pass, but not any character names. They'll just give up and try something else than have to deal with tech support. And they'll definitely feel resentment about in the future, say when GW2 comes around. --Emkyooess 17:48, 22 December 2009 (UTC)


 * While inconvenient for a few players, this security update is important because it will address the current issue, and help secure the accounts of a much larger number of players than it inconveniences. It's not going to please everyone, and we know that, but we have to balance different needs, the convenience of players and account security. There are other means which would have been as effective (or more), but it would have been much more inconvenient for players than this update. -- Regina Buenaobra [[Image:User_Regina_Buenaobra_sig.png]] 20:02, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

why not call back the update for 2 day so players got a shot to get the names...! ---ce devilman---
 * Maybe cause they don't want to give a bunch of hackers the opportunity to quickly strip the accounts while they have the chance? honestly if you can't remember any char names at all, that's weird. -- Salome   [[Image:User_salome_sig2.png|19px]] 00:20, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I only have 6 characters and I couldn't remember exactly how ANY of them were written in-game because they're not exclusively GuildWars characters, they're characters I use for art & comics or other games, and Guildwars' fucked up naming system forced me to give them awkward variations on their names that I wouldn't remember anyway or even wanted in the first place. This is obviously a case where Anet totally jumped the gun and created a huge hassle when all they really needed to do was post a warning a week ago for everyone to write down atleast one of their character's names per account.  That woulda been just enough warning w/o tipping off too many Phishers. -- ilr [[image:User_ilr_deprav.png]] 01:28, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

oh well got 1 of 2 acc back (armor storage)...lets see how PlayNC Support can help me get the realy good stuff back ---ce devilman---

Not being able to remember the name of a single character is way too weird, and even more suspicious. The great naming system GW has enforces names in the style of "Name Surname" and makes impossible stupid names like "D4rk-23||_L0P", yet still people make names like "Ill Asdf Ill" or "Ooo Fdsa Ooo". Most of my characters have names so long that use the name character limit or get pretty close to it, I remember all of them, yet I'm the person with the worst memory I can remember. And you can always contact a friend or guild member, so they give you the name that appears in the rooster or friend list. MithTalk 22:26, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I was just about to say what you did, "is your character name: Aeryedsfhdshgf Ldfdhdhfdhg" lol. I used to see a lot of those in Bergen Hot Springs.-- *Yasmin Parvaneh* [[Image:User_yasmin_parvaneh_sig.png]] 22:40, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

@Salome: As a person that has 35 accounts all being used for storage and such, it is not easy to remember all the names on each account. Anyways I will be contacting support soon, since I can remember 4 accounts character names and not the names on the rest of my 31 accounts. Toffin 02:59, 25 December 2009 (UTC)


 * WHOAH! O_O How do you even remember what's in each one? Or the fact that they exist, for that matter? O_o And the standard advice applies: check your screenshot folders. [[Image:User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpg]]<font color="#000099">Rose Of Kali 19:44, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Thursday, December 17th Update Bug
In the Ascalon Arena, my festival mask option is turned off but the mask always shows. Also, is the arena set up as a Codex? All of my skills are locked on the exception or about 5-6. I can provide screenshots if needed. Magic  <font color="#0000EB">Talk  20:15, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, the "Snowball Dominance" quest, aren't the two team supposed to be split up as a Dwayna team vs a Grenth team? I've noticed the last few games that the teams are all mixed up. :S Magic  [[Image:User Magic Icon.jpg|19px]] <font color="#0000EB">Talk  21:15, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I dunno if they ever said that about the Snowball Dominance teams, I think that was speculated by the wiki. --Kyoshi (Talk) [[File:User Kyoshi sig.png]] 21:24, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Portal Jumping
Hey Regina,

I just have one question: Is Portal Jumping seen as exploiting? (and thus bannable?). Thanks, and a happy new year! Kinlo 16:33, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
 * What is portal jumping anyway ? Lilondra  [[Image:User_Lilondra_Sig.jpg|21x21px]] 19:25, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
 * It's something we can use in Cartography to exceed the intended 100% title or to go to the edges of the World-Geometry that we weren't intended to. It is done by Shadow Stepping *PAST* a Zone-Portal's trigger area usually allowing you to walk into the next zone and explore portions of it with no mob/monster interference.  However Anet itself has allowed certain parts of explorable areas to be explored to their "End of the World" Edges where all you see is huge empty space.  4 Examples are T.G.N.W. ,The Frost Gate, Spearhead Peak, and Marga Coast. -- ilr [[image:User_ilr_deprav.png]] 00:14, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
 * There's even a project for it on GWiki]. [[Image:User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpg]]<font color="#000099">Rose Of Kali 04:30, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Sounds like an exploit to me. Why wouldn't we have a page about it on this wiki, exactly? --Kyoshi (Talk) [[File:User Kyoshi sig.png]] 05:37, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Well it became easier with the change to shadowsteps so I'm guessing its not that old ? Lilondra  [[Image:User_Lilondra_Sig.jpg|21x21px]] 07:59, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
 * 7+ months since project creation is "not that old?" :P The "exploit" has been around for years. Then again, GWW is usually late with this kind of stuff. [[Image:User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpg]]<font color="#000099">Rose Of Kali 13:39, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
 * It is an exploit, but compared to others (like the Deadly Haste bug) it is not harming anyone, so I suggest not to waste any time on it.  Koda  [[Image:User_Koda_Kumi_UT.jpeg‎|19px]]  Kumi  16:55, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
 * If this is considered an exploit, I know a lot of people who are in danger of being banned. -- Arduin [[Image:User_Arduin_Companionship.jpg|15px|talk]] 21:14, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Banning them would actually be a really, really dumb move. It's not like they're manipulating ladders or anything. --User Ezekial Riddle silverbluesig.png <font color="#dce2e8">R <font color="#cfdae5">I <font color="#b8c2cc">D <font color="#a1b1bf">DLE 21:17, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah. Banning them would mean banning all 600/smiters and shadowformers. --Boro [[image:User_Borotvaltgandalf_Sig.jpg|10px‎]] 08:55, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Considering how RR was handled, I'm willing to bet anyone using this tactic is not in any considerable danger. ···  Danny  Pew   Pew  23:08, 29 December 2009 (UTC)


 * This is a support question. I am not in the position to make rules decisions on possible infractions. -- Regina Buenaobra [[Image:User_Regina_Buenaobra_sig.png]] 21:53, 18 March 2010 (UTC)