Talk:The Mists

There's only 20 articles linking to here, why does everyone feel the necessity to write something silly just to make that link blue? I really don't get it. This article has been created a bunch of times so far with stuff like this. =\ --Dirigible 13:41, 25 April 2007 (EDT)

region infobox
Should this get the region infobox template, and, if not, should the Underworld and the Fissure of Woe articles get the region infobox template instead? -- Gordon Ecker 21:39, 16 May 2007 (EDT)

Access
Are the mists, accessable to all three campaings or just nightfall? I have not progressed deep enough to find out yet.LeFick 13:50, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Image
This is going to be impossible to get a proper image for, cold we use the loading screen as the main image potentially? &mdash;  Cloud Xan  17:02, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I dont think it is possible :\ &mdash; Seru   [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] Talk 03:50, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Snowball Arena in the Mists?
I know that the loading screen for the Snowball Arena is the same as the one for the Underworld, Fissure of Woe, and the various Tombs maps (not sure for HA, since I hardly do that), but is the Snowball Arena really in the Mists? I mean, the arena and outpost uses a redecorated version of the Shiverpeaks arena (next to Yak's Bend). I would be more inclined to say that the Dwayna vs Grenth is in the Shiverpeaks, not the Mists. -- Konig / talk 04:36, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Plural vs Singular
I think that it is both plural and singular, so to speak. When using "the Mists" it is singular, despite the s, and thus would use "is" - however, the pronoun to use would be "they" and therefore the verb would be "are" - I argue this because of the quotation. It uses "they are" repeatedly, however, it ends with "this one place" - "one place" referring to the Mists.  Konig / talk 00:55, 7 July 2011 (UTC)


 * It's awkward and jarring to use both: if it's The Mists are, then they are one location is proper; if it's The Mists is then it is one location gets the job done.


 * In any case, whatever we decide to do is going to give conniptions to grammarians and OCDers (including consistency mavens); I think we should, as best we can, try to rephrase to avoid adding to any potential confusion. (We don't have to follow ANet's inconsistencies.) — Tennessee Ernie Ford ( TEF ) 01:12, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Technically, it is one place - one very very very big place, that encompasses... well, everything. So it should be singular. But we don't exactly know the nature of the Mists. "They are" could be referring not to the location that is the Mists, but to what the Mists is made up of (the protomatter, which is very much plural). Which to me makes sense - the location doesn't touch all things, or is the source of all things, but the protomatter does/is.  Konig / talk 01:47, 7 July 2011 (UTC)


 * That should make it be easier to be consistent: The Mists is a singular realm and the Mists are the plural/collective noun describing the material of which The Mists are composed. → if we discuss a location, it's singular, while the protomatter, would be plural. (Sort of the difference between economics is a tough subject and the the game's trade economics are complex, which we would probably punt to the game has a complex trade economy).


 * (On the other hand, Astronomers refer to The Cosmos as a singular location and the matter of which its composed is also singular, e.g. Dark Matter is (in US English, anyhow). (The Cosmo is a singular drink, but I don't think that's germane.)


 * In the end, I don't have a preference for whether we treat it as singular or plural; I only ask that, at least in the same paragraph, we phrase/rephrase to avoid using both. (And, ideally, in the same article, we stick with one.) If folks would like to see the wiki distinguish between the single realm and the plural substance of which its made, I'm okay with that, too (again, as long as we don't bounce around between is/are). — Tennessee Ernie Ford ( TEF ) 02:09, 7 July 2011 (UTC)