Talk:Hall of Monuments Reward Calculator

Merge?
I propose that Guild Wars 2 Reward Point and Hall of Monuments/Rewards be merged into Hall of Monuments Reward Calculator, because the three really go hand-in-hand. The calculator is where you see your reward points and what rewards they get you. Otherwise, you'll be jumping between the articles to figure out what reward you want and how to get the points for it. - Brian Kendig 12:46, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Agreed! Vael Victus  [[Image:User_Vael_Victus_Sig.jpg|18px|Pancakes.]] 23:16, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * As creator of all the pages I also agree, until they are at least fleshed out that they should be merged.- TheRave [[Image:User_TheRave_sig.png|talk]] (talk) 13:58, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Any more past 30?
Is there going to be any rewards (except the titles) past 30?
 * Hall_of_Monuments/Rewards would indicate only titles. 65.6.156.101 14:09, 17 October 2010 (UTC)


 * I really hope they will add at least 1 thing from 31 to 50 for all those who have been the most loyal and hardest working fans! It is still "Beta" so anything can change. It would also be a great way to create a renewed interest in making HOM accomplishments in GW. I have noticed a drop off latley. Many people are like why bother with 50 when all of the goodies are given in the first 30 points. I find this sad along with the fact that a player doesnt have to get any statues to get to 30 either. 32 points can be gotten by filling the 4 monuments around the honor monument. A player can just buy thier way there which taints the value of the goodies as being granted for recognition of a players achievements in GW1. The Honor Monument part of the HOM is the best measure of true support, effort and loyalty to GW as these achievements can't easily or cheaply be faked. Completeing the Honor Monument for most will be the last accomplishment they do as it is the hardest and the most deserving of rewards in the first place! Those who maxed the honor monument are in my opinion going to be the players who also put the most time and money into GW2 so it only makes sense to add awesome goodies even if odd or only 1 goody each to points 31 to 50.Cinnamongod 20:28, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 * No. The players who maxed the Honor monument are the players who like to grind. The Players who maxed Devotion are rich or have been here a damn long time. Etc. Because buying gold is illegal, I refuse to respond to your denigration of gold-related rewards - I'm not a rich player, but the reward is not cheapened because you can buy it instead of grinding it. You just choose where you want to grind. Some things (FoW armor, Legendary Survivor) are harder to get than others, but it's fine that we're not rewarded exhorbitantly for them. Someone can choose to do something else that fits their playstyle instead, or they can go for it. It's a choice. The current system, with minor prestige rewards for extremely dedicated players - who have been shown to like titles, because, hey, they maxed a ton of them in GW1 - and items that aren't exceedingly hard to get, looks perfectly good. At this point, if they added more items, I feel that the somewhat more casual portion of the fanbase could just as well give up as get energized. The HoM monument is a very intimidating thing for the newer players I hang with, and not feeling like you need to max it, I believe, is a good thing. --76.166.187.131 16:46, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
 * To the person above, 50/50 hom isnt for grinders, im not a grinder, and never have been. I have 50/50 hom and im a casual player, i dont whore SC's (i may do the occasional 1), i got my armors by playing the game, clearing vabbian/fow with guildies years ago doing proper runs every so often, not with noob SC trash that every scrub needs. I also earned my consumable titles without buying a single point, and maxed them all off the last christmas event which made it easy. You just have to play smart, example 1: i sell all junk items like voltaic spears and other expensive junk to that doesnt go in the hom, to stupid children, which then pays for armors and so forth.
 * But then again, all people who've only played this game for a year or 2 (yeah, you) think everyone whos got everything are grinders. You sir, suck. peace.124.191.57.178 18:16, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Monuments section too large
I think the Monuments section is too large and it takes too long to scroll down to the rewards. So I came up with this possible solution: User:Adul/Sandbox

Any thoughts or suggestions? --Adul 23:42, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I went ahead and made the changes. Discussion is still open in case someone has qualms about it. --Adul 07:46, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Duplicate Acheivements
Do duplicate HOM statutes from different characters on the same account contribute toward acheivements like total number of minis or companions? 74.197.118.134 04:20, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * No, only 1 unique title/statue/achievement per account. --Falconeye 04:36, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Tied to account or character
When we play GW2, will our achievments and titles carry over to all new GW2 characters, or just new characters that share the old GW1 characters names? Also, /bonus > heirlooms, why would anyone take ideas from WoW? Rose Of Kali 01:56, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Who knows, but taking a guess off WoW, cuz GW2=/=WoW, the armor/Weapons will be available to one of your characters- with the ability to swap them between your characters themselves. while the rest i guess is prolly for all.so yeah; lots of racoons and cats when we all join. -- Neil • User Neil2250 sig icon6.png 21:48, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Why not just read the FAQ? "You can, however, generate as many of the items as you want for your own account, so all of your Guild Wars 2 characters can benefit from the rewards."

not trade-able?
the HoM FAQ said the items wont be trade-able, i get that about the weapons and pets and stuff but will it be that way for the mini pets or will it be like the ones they did for gw 1?Auren X neruA 01:15, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Chances are they will make the mini-pets untradable as well. If those without HoM access to an Orrian Chicken were just able to buy them, they would no longer be as special, and Anet seems to want to reward returning players of GW1 in GW2. G R E E N E R  01:32, 9 February 2011 (UTC)


 * These might be like the items you get when typing /bonus: pre-customized to the character and untradeable. If it were any other way, carry-over players could spam new toons, accidental lose their rewards, or have an unfair advantage over players joining the GW universe for the first time. — Tennessee Ernie Ford ( TEF ) 01:47, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
 * but its kinda like the pre ordering factions or nightfall where they got a mini kuun/varesh. they were able to get it once but not again. i understand why they wouldnt make them tradable, i just was wondering if it would be the same as kuun/varesh.Auren X neruA 06:06, 9 February 2011 (UTC)




 * No, re-creatable items, not tradeable. — Tennessee Ernie Ford ( TEF ) 06:15, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Mini-Pets
What happened with the mini-pets? How can 1st year minis and 5th year minis effectively have the same value even though your account has to be over 5 years old to get them. In all those years the player had to for some reason suffer on inventory space in order to hold on to those minis even though they had no idea that there was ever going to be any other reason to hold on to their minis. How do you also compare the value of the Black moa chick that any charcter can get at any time provided they complete the necesary quests with other green minis like mallyx that requires the gambling of very valuable gems with an extremely low chance of success (less than 1% chance) or even harder to get minis like the mini Dhuum. Keeping the Mini monument in the HOM calculator the same would make sense if there was an additional benefit like: Any dedicated mini-pets would also translate to the same mini-pets being accessible in GW2 or maybe (something even cooler) any dedicated mini-pets would translate to a pet of that mini being available (even if certain criteria had to be meet) in GW2.Cinnamongod 20:55, 14 February 2011 (UTC)


 * We created the Feedback:Getting started section of the wiki so that contributors' ideas may be read and used by Anet (which will not happen with your ideas being located here). This page is meant to discuss any concerns or questions related to the article on the HoM. G R E E N E R  21:06, 14 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Cinna: it is a weird situation, but here's how I decided to look at it:
 * ANet has always rewarded people for persistence and participation: there are items (mostly masks) that you cannot get unless you were present during special events. We get special rewards for having begun playing on day one (far before my time).
 * ANet has extended that idea to its logical extreme: the most persistent and dedicated players will have an easy way to boost their HoM score to 50, but the rest of us will have to go to more trouble.


 * I think that's fair because (a) the people who crossed to Drok's without heroes deserve special consideration and (b) it's not all that hard for dedicated players to reach HoM30 (that doesn't require many points in Devotion &mdash; I think I had 15 mins when I hit 30). — Tennessee Ernie Ford ( TEF ) 21:41, 14 February 2011 (UTC)


 * BTW, you can also create a new avatar which will get a 1st year mini after one year. So: equal value! 66.170.212.17 21:49, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

PvE Based Achievements?
For me I'm not a very PvP oriented guy, I really love PvE. Any opinions that we should ask ANET to make it possible to get the PvP reward title more easily for PvE based characters? As one of you pointed out above, people can just buy their way into the game. Plus I can't farm very well so the fact that these titles are so grindy, it is daunting. Powerboard 00:43, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Then work on PvE titles, if you like PvE. Making PvP titles easier for PvE players makes no sense. Would you also make things like guardian, vanquisher, cartographer, etc. easier for PvP players just because they don't like PvE? Also, as was pointed out just above, refer to Feedback:Getting started. [[Image:User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpg]]Rose Of Kali 15:18, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Er, hate to burst your noob bubble, but theres only ONE pvp title required, and guess what? theres a PVP title thats actually a PVE TITLE?! Yes, thats right! the wonderful whore title of ZAISHEN! I got glad r3 years before zaishen title came out so im not concerned, but yes, its not hard to get.124.191.57.178 18:22, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Can I salvage dedicated armor/weapons?
Can I salvage dedicated armor/weapons or do I have to keep them in my posession for them to count? Roland of Gilead talk 19:48, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Once you dedicate something, a copy of it stays in your Hall forever. You don't have to hold on to the original. --Irgendwer 20:30, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Beta
Should it be noted that the calculator is still in Beta? (as seen on the HoM calculator page itself)-- Mark,     het Beest  00:03, 2 May 2011 (UTC)