ArenaNet talk:Skill feedback/Necromancer/Order of Undeath/Archive 1

76.25.197.215's
No! Don't keep this the same in either! It's complete shit in PvP now, and it wasn't broken beforehand! Just revert the whole thing, PvP and PvE. D= RitualDoll 11:26, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed Gelei 10:34, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed 87.189.248.173 09:38, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Connall's Discussion
It does look like it doesn't do much at first glance, but have you tried using it with Death Nova with Bone Minions? It's possible to get 945 aoe damage going off at once. I haven't tried it myself, but it's worth testing before saying the skill isn't any good. --Rururrur 20:43, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * No, it isn't. --76.25.197.215 08:04, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * He's right, it's not. You could at least use Signet of Creation and have some patience if you want your minions to go kaboom at once. Besides, you can cast Signet of Creation and have time to use Death Nova, with this you gotta use it before you even touch your elite. Lame. RitualDoll 11:28, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Order of Undeath
The change to Order of Undeath took what had been a fantastic skill for PvE and turned it into garbage. This **should** have been a perfect opportunity to use the PvE/PvP Split to buff a skill for PvP while leaving it just the way it was for PvE. Please revert the change for PvE.

Also, I've recently heard tell that you honestly believed no one was using this skill; and that Ensign tried to tell you that it was, in fact, the **only** elite used by high-end PvE Minion Masters. What Ensign told you was true. Until you screwed it up, Order of Undeath was **THE** skill for high-end PvE Minion Masters. Now it's garbage. If you'd like further confirmation, please read this forum thread: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10315142.

Again, please utilize the PvE/PvP split to revert this skill for PvE. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 160.39.48.247 (talk &bull; contribs) at 18:08, 24 August 2008 (UTC).
 * I kinda like it. It gives players who don't own Faction a substitute for a Flesh Golem (which is stronger than a Pet too). This skill promotes Death Magic play that doesn't primarily focus on minions...which is interesting to say the least. It just isn't meant for Minion Masters. 145.94.74.23 09:05, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Actually this really would not work well for the pve/pvp split. Anet already said that the split will only make minor changes to skills and not to change the whole skill function. OoU was a decent skill for pve but it failed in most hard mode places where minions die too easily and jagged bones seems to be the way to go. I actually like this skill. I took it into RA with a bone fiend which deals 46 damage per second to 60 AL. I got an 11 game winning streak first try. Evil Penguin 18:03, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Unyielding Aura says hai2you. -- NUKLEAR   IIV  19:26, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Good point, but unyielding aura actually needs the buff for pvp and who knows if thats going to get changed to something similar but not overpowered. Evil Penguin 15:33, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Revert
Well done guys & a massive ty for reverting :) Klefer 08:55, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * needs to be archived. I'll do it tomorrow, but I'm way too tired atm. -- NUKLEAR  [[Image:User NuclearVII signature 3.jpg|19x19px]] IIV  20:56, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Done. -- Gordon Ecker 02:15, 25 September 2008 (UTC)