Feedback talk:User/Dark Morphon/Mirror of Ice

i don't give a hoot about pvp, but this just looks like a fun skillAkbaroth 01:56, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
 * If you don't give a hoot about PvP then it doesn't make sense to comment on a PvP change, now, does it? Dark Morphon 13:17, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I like the idea. Although I see it as a quick semi-Aegis / Reversal of Damage thing. :/ I like how you came up with the idea though. Mirror, Ice. Clever. :) Than 00:06, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * It's not that he had to come up with much, this is practically a slightly better version of the original function, on the other hand i don't know if ele's should have a buff that can target other allies directly...just doesn't seem to fit the class in my opinion. Lou Wolfskin 03:40, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

So, people will just revert to SS, WT or IS. Big deal. It's like giving eles an elite that heals themselves. Pika Fan 00:09, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * How about: "Hex Spell. Target foe moves 66% slower (1-7 seconds). The next time that foe casts a hostile spell, that foe takes X damage instead.", more useful? Dark Morphon 11:40, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Useful, Monk-destructive. Recharge, casting and energy cost still the same? Than 04:39, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
 * And pray tell, how is it "Monk-destructive"? Really, you got to start paying attention to what people say:"The next time that foe casts a hostile spell". @DM That is actually much closer to what an ele is like - just remember that it's effect is stronger than shackles and therefore the recharge and energy has to be modified accordingly. Pika Fan 14:06, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I especially like it because it is still good at stopping casters while indeed giving it more of an Elementalist role. Concerning the stats, Icy Shackles potentially has a 90% snare. I don't know how much more useful that is than a 66% one (it seems to me that 66% is already so much that 90% won't add very much difference) so uhm, would be about right? Dark Morphon 15:42, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I personally dislike elementalists having a permanent or close-to-permanent snare(for that same reason, I would go ahead to create suggestion pages to nerf the recharge on freezing gust, if only I wasn't lazy) even if it is elite. I think 15 recharge would work right, or you hit the recharge to that of diversion, split the effect (something like, for 1-6 seconds, target is 66% snared. Additionally, for 6 seconds, the next time target foe casts a hostile spell, that foe takes X damage instead). Eles should have to commit 2-3 skills on their bar to perma snare anything, if at all. Pika Fan 22:57, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
 * By splitting the effect do you mean that when the hostile spell conditional triggers the snare still continues? I don't know whether that's possible. If the recharge is going to be 15 seconds I assume 10 energy and 1 cast is fine? Dark Morphon 16:35, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes. I am sure GW is able to program something like that, just need to set something like
 * while(mirrorOfIce == 1)
 * movement = movement * 0.33;
 * int i = 1;
 * if(cast a spell that targets a foe)
 * if(i == 1)
 * i = 0;
 * spell fails;
 * health = health - x;
 * }
 * }
 * }
 * or similar :P. 10-15 energy and 1 cast should be fine. Pika Fan 17:26, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it should be easy to program, it's just that I haven't seen a skill that works like that before. At any rate, I'll suggest it. I don't expect Anet to seriously consider these suggestions anyway, the skill is balanced the way we worked it out and that's all we can do. Dark Morphon 13:17, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * imo:
 * Elite Enchantment Spell. (5 seconds).  Remove a Water Magic hex from target foe.  Your next  Water Magic spells that target foes apply that hex to their targets.
 * Needs some tweaks, but I like the concept. :> [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  17:18, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 * imo:
 * Elite Enchantment Spell. (5 seconds).  Remove a Water Magic hex from target foe.  Your next  Water Magic spells that target foes apply that hex to their targets.
 * Needs some tweaks, but I like the concept. :> [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  is for   Raine,   etc.  17:18, 3 March 2010 (UTC)