Talk:Miniature Celestial Ox

Cropping the blue
I tried to upload a version with the blue background cropped. For some reason it didn't take, so I reverted. The image did upload properly to my user space. Oh well, if anyone wants to use it, and knows how, go for it! (Ralmon the Gen 16:29, 25 January 2009 (UTC))
 * Now I'm really confused. The original image had blue background. The one I uploaded had white background, but wasn't showing after the upload (causing me to revert). Now I see the one I uploaded (with the white background) even though I reverted back to the original. It's Madness! Madness, I say! (Ralmon the Gen 04:44, 26 January 2009 (UTC))
 * Did you purge the image cache after uploading and wait a few minutes? Sometimes when you upload a new version of a file, it takes a while for the servers to update appropriately, or it could be stuck in your Web browser's cached temporary files. Vili [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 04:52, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll say no I didn't since I don't think i know how to purge the image cache. I did purge my browser cache, though. A time delay for its appearance would make sense to me. However, I'm now puzzled why my revert didn't seem to restore the original image, but rather now shows the image I uploaded (the one with the white background). What do you see, blue or white background? (Ralmon the Gen 05:35, 26 January 2009 (UTC))
 * On this page itself, the image shows transparant, as it ought to; if I view it at the image itself, it's blue/black background, no matter which revision I look at. Vili [[Image:User Vili sig.jpg|User talk:Vili]] 05:42, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * What a bizarre mystery. Perhaps reverting images is not recommended. I guess in the future, I'll not upload over an existing image, but rather use a new name. For now, if it ain't broke... (Ralmon the Gen 16:58, 26 January 2009 (UTC))
 * It's probably just an image cache issue, since Emily uploaded the transparent one today. It will resolve itself. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 02:37, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

One of The Largest?
I've noticed that this mini is realativly big, is it possible its bigger then the 3rd largest? Exalted Amethyst 14:28, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * It's possible, though other than the Miniature Destroyer of Flesh, size is rather a matter of opinion when it comes to miniatures, seeing as theres no real way to accurately calculate the size, either that or I haven't discovered how to. ~ Ryuu Desu [[Image:User_Ryuu_Desu_Sig.png|User_Ryuu_Desu_Sig.png]] Talk  16:46, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * It's not that big, really. Depending on how you define size: if you mean tallness or bulk, it's medium. If you mean size relative to its full-sized counterpart, it's very small. Going by tallness, I found fully 8 minis in my unimpressive collection of 13 that were bigger than the ox. --Mme. [[Image:User Mme. Donelle sig.jpg]]Donelle  23:16, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

obtain
what the hell man, i opend like 1.5 thousand of thoose fortunes not one ox.--Trapper randy 02:14, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Keep trying. I was lucky enough to get it on my 4th fortune. Aganork

i juust opend another 50 i give up anet just dosent like me im broke, i get bad drops, i opend so many of theese my figer hurst form clickign the butto nso mny times i give up--Trapper randy 02:51, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

I opened ~50 or so and got one just keep trying and you'll get one eventually--KageNoYugata 03:18, 31 January 2009 (UTC)


 * 200...no luck so far...-- Shew 03:53, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

lol, luck is on my side, i only had to open 7 to get my first ox :D --Craz1 05:15, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Alright...about 300 fortunes used...and I finally got one. -_- Shew 05:35, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

I used only 31 and got 1, it's only a question of lucky....-- Itay Alon 07:16, 31 January 2009 (UTC) I used 25, got 2!--D AV  A   08:18, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 100 Lunar Fortunes 3 times a mini Ox Believe me or not im stunned to if the droprate is 0.33%. Cult Mephisto 10:13, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The drop rate is higher than 0.33 percent. Some people in my guild got 5 ox minipets last night, and most of the people with lunar fortunes got one in their first open. Must be a higher drop rate. --Burning Freebies 10:31, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

So far me and a friend of mine have opened about 200 each and no luck but im not giving up and neither his is because we are on a mission to try and get all the mini pets we can (apart from the polar bear) before GW2 is released truesimzy 16:07, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

I used 92 fortunes and got no ox. I'll try again once I've obtained about 100 fortunes. Xerxez 17:51, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I opened about 95 fortunes and got 2 minis. Weird thing is, same thing happened last year. ^^ --Mme. [[Image:User Mme. Donelle sig.jpg]]Donelle  17:55, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Finaly after opening just over 320 tokens i got one. Thought i was cursed because with the polar bear i spent hours of farming for nothing. Koiboysg1 21:18, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
 * You're not cursed. The polar bear has an exceptionally low drop rate; the majority of people who formed for one did 200-1000 runs and got no bear. At least the farming wasn't for nothing, though: you got a bunch of sweet, drunk and party points out of it. Cha-ching! --Mme. [[Image:User Mme. Donelle sig.jpg]]Donelle  23:07, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
 * So I tried again with 178 fortunes and got 3 miniatures this time. Xerxez 16:24, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Opened another 5, got another ox. XD --Mme. [[Image:User Mme. Donelle sig.jpg]]Donelle  17:19, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 500 fortunes....no fraking ox. grrr. this game hates me Garreth MacLeod 00:40, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Opened 539 fortunes, yielded 5 oxen. I still think the drop rate got increased compared to last year, or perhaps it helps to be born in the year of the Ox =) --Dash 06:14, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I have to agree with you, but maybe it depends on your Lucky title - I'm Golden and got 4 Golden Oxen opening about 350 fortunes. I could have probably gotten more, but I decided to go gift bags after that.  I also opened an old Year of the Rat fortune I had saved and got a rat on my first one (I still have 28 left...).  In response to above, mini polar bear is extremely rare - I did 500+ runs and 0 polar bears.  --Falseprophet 20:36, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Think I may have to squish you theory about the lucky title helping in obtaining the Ox. I had 175 fortunes and no lucky title

and they dropped 4 OX minis, were as a friend of mine who is Golden and opened over 3k of fortunes and got nothing but fireworks..... I think this goes a little towards proving its just totally random --madhatter 12:49, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * All of my Factions characters got one, but none of my other characters who visited Cantha did.Ramei Arashi 13:24, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
 * i opend 3 and got one

Mini Page?
Has anyone added this mini to the mini page with the rest of them? I looked at the page and i didn't see it...
 * Be my guest. -- Arduinna [[Image:User_Arduinna_Companionship.jpg|15px|talk]] 14:42, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Honestly I dont know how.

i've opened over 200 and only get crappy fireworks... i know the mini is close to worthless cuase its so easy to get and theres so many floating around...but i want one! and i rly don't feel like being the 1 loser that has to buy one

I got a mini ox on my 4th fortune trying to get one... I was pretty glad, but if i had known that on average it would take 300 fortunes to get one, and 300x3 = 900 tokens x 100 = 90K i would be extatic. How much are they worth?
 * I've seen people trying to buy for 150g each, and people being more scabby and selling for 200g each. Congratz on your mini, I got mine on around the 60th Fortune ^^
 * I got mine after my 30th --[[Image:User Wild rituals signature.png|Talk]]Wild 04:18, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

I couldn't tell you on which fortune I got mine since I cover my eyes, mash the mouse click, and then look around see if I got lucky. Worked every year so far. :) --King Of Kamelott  05:50, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

I got one after about 200+ fortunes... The One to Fear --71.58.173.149 11:32, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Opened 92 Lunar Fortunes, got 2 of them. --Nekki 13:22, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Do the fortunes have to be used during the festival weekend to get the mini?--MagpieGrumpyPants 13:26, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 * No, Anet never does that to noncheaters. Backsword 15:38, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I've opened about 100 now but have about 35 left. Will you still have a chance at the ox using them after the festival is over? Also what about left over festival tickets, anywhere to use them after the festival is over? Thanks again--MagpieGrumpyPants 10:30, 2 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Ox will always have a chance of dropping. Also, Festivsl tickets can be sold back to merchants at the same price, ot just hang onto them until April, when its the Guild Wars 4th anniversary, where the boardwalk will re open. Failing that, 5 days of Dragon festival call for a reopening og the boardwalk. --Burning Freebies 19:43, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Whew I had about 5 fortunes left out of that 35 and got my ox...he's cute. I sure know it's very hard to play a map when you're about half through with the screen swaying all around you, I did that a few times as I forgot in the beginning of the area to click my forture. LOL WOW!!!!!! thank goodness for the u-map, it was the only way for me to complete the map but boy was I starting to get a headache, taught me my lesson hehehe.--MagpieGrumpyPants 11:48, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Is it possible..?
That there is no % chance of drop, just random like the zchest? Because i opened 83 fortunes, got one, then got 33 more and got another, then got 17 more fortunes and got another mini, when people open more than me and get one or even none.  —Daɽkɘʃʂ   ӍcÇɧaoʂmonǥɘɼ  I Like HA 01:38, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
 * It IS randomized; there is a % chance of drop because it has a set of items (Unlike the ZChest that can give out virtually every weapon in the game), like drinks, fireworks, gold, the blessings and the mini. It is randomized between them and that's how you get the %.--[[Image:User Large sig.png|talk]] Large 02:21, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
 * That percentage is wrong though. Some of my friends have got like 5 oxes from 83 lunar fortunes. --Burning Freebies 08:57, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
 * The more people that post results on the drop research page, the more accurate the percentage becomes. being told that someone got 5 out of 83 does nothing, without knowing what else they got. If you look at other drop research pages, for example Wintersday Gift/Drop rate in calculating the percentages for the first five entries the percentage fluctuated much more than they did after 30 entries. By the end, the percentages were changing less than .1% per entry. It's how determining average percentages work. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 11:08, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. --Burning Freebies 19:32, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
 * being told that someone got 5 out of 83 does nothing, without knowing what else they got. Is that really the case? I'm not calling you on it, I just don't understand. (Maths isn't my forte.) If you opened 100 fortunes and got 3 oxes, and 97 non-oxes, doesn't that imply a drop rate of 3% for oxes? Why do we need to know what those 97 non-ox items were? --Mme. [[Image:User Mme. Donelle sig.jpg]]Donelle  20:07, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, the other stuff is for total consistency of the underlying trends. Because it's random, in small groups it won't seem so random. But when you do it enough times, it tends to get closer to the underlying percentages, making it more accurate. --JonTheMon 20:12, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I get how large samples improve accuracy, just not how differentiating between "sparkler" and "lucky aura" makes any difference to the mini's percentage. :/ --Mme. [[Image:User Mme. Donelle sig.jpg]]Donelle  20:22, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, that. Well, it really doesn't make a difference to the mini itself, just that if you're keeping track of how many you open, why not keep track of what you get? --JonTheMon 20:39, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I look for overall accuracy of the drop rate tables and percentages. I'm not just looking at just the mini, or any other one item. By having the numbers for everything, it provides easy checks. I didn't phrase it correctly, and with the fortunes and the 3 effects it IS decidedly more difficult to track exact total numbers. I was trying to say that ok, if you have one person that gets 5 minis in 83 fortunes, that's great, but does not reflect the average percentage with any type of accuracy, since there are others that have opened hundreds of them with no minis. It takes the pooling of results from many thousands of fortunes to achieve an accurate drop rate. --[[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png | Wyn's Talk page]] Wyn 21:15, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 364 fortunes, one ox. 10,900 gold, About 66 sparklers, 34 champagne bottles, 40 bottle rockets. (edit) I got the ox within the first 20 fortunes, when I was lucky enough not to get spiritual possession. I zoned out every time I got it. It's quite possible that it reduces the drop rate, or so it would seem. ~ Ryuu Desu [[Image:User_Ryuu_Desu_Sig.png|User_Ryuu_Desu_Sig.png]]  Talk  03:07, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Nah, I got all 3 of my minis with spiritual possession active. At the time I actually thought the drop rate was affected by having too many fireworks on the ground, because there was always only 2 or 3 I hadn't picked up yet when I got the ox. Others think displaying your lucky title or having a high lucky rank is key. In reality, I don't think there's any way to increase your chances, and those of us who think there is are just being wishful thinkers. --Mme. [[Image:User Mme. Donelle sig.jpg]]<font color="#001100">Donelle  12:27, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I suppose, at the time I got my ox I had about 30 fireworks on the ground. I guess there isn't really a way to increase or decrease the drop rate. And even if there is, it likely isn't anything simple or within our modification. Guild Wars never seemed like the game to have fluxtuating droprates. I'm just glad that I got my ox this year, completely missed the past two Canthan new year minis. ~ Ryuu Desu [[Image:User_Ryuu_Desu_Sig.png|User_Ryuu_Desu_Sig.png]] Talk  16:44, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * All that reminds me of myths about fourleaf clovers and horseshoes. Backsword 23:29, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't forget the existence of god! --Mme. Donelle 04:57, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
 * What?! Are you saying the existence of god is a myth? May the 5 (or however many) gods of the mists strike you down for such blasphemy! Hehe... 76.30.79.54 18:54, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Mini makes sounds
Could someone add that this mini makes a lot Moo-ing sounds while the owner is moving in explorable areas? Personally i hate this sound tbh... --  Pixy | Talk 12:35, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * There is already a note about the mini making sounds. :) And yes it is annoying after some time! --Sensei 12:42, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Oops missed it xD ... I must be getting blind hehe --  Pixy | Talk User_pixy_hand.png 21:02, 4 January 2010 (UTC)