Talk:Necromancer Vabbian armor

it's too hidden in my opinion, for what gives the both galleries. it's not much too had on the main page, why are you against it ? lussh 15:50, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Previous discussion about dyed images resulted in the support of having only the renders and gray components. Formatting changes like this are likely controversial and should be discussed on the appropriate talk page. In any case, they don't need to be linked from the main article page. They are gender specific and logically anyone looking for dyed pictures would check the galleries first anyway. The article names aren't correctly capitalized either. - B e X  [[Image:User BeXoR sig.gif|iawtc]] 16:07, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

5k
Honestly I love this armor but I dont think that it should cost 5k to craft. The materials alone alotogether ar most likely 10k for each piece, so altogther u would pay about 60k for this armor. It is nice but I dont think it is worth 5k, maybe 1k or 1.5k. --Shadowphoenix 03:37, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
 * O.O Please tell me you're joking. This is the least expensive Prestige armor for Necromancers, the runner-up being 8k in the Elite Scar Pattern armor. The materials just bring it up to normal prestige price as it is, if I'm doing my math right. I would just laugh if they brought every piece of armor in this down to 1.5k. That said, it is rather ridiculous that this requires 16 sapphires and rubies, but like I said, it seems to balance out the 5k. Chaiyo Kaldor  talk contribs 03:45, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Nope not joking in fact I have alot of people in game that agree with me, this armor is nice but not nice enough for 5k each --Shadowphoenix [[Image:User-Shadowphoenix Shadow Phoenix Signet.jpg|19px]] 03:46, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, that explains why not many people are using it, then. It probably would balance out the cost if it was 2k or less, but I just don't see it happening. If I could remember the average value of either, I swear I could figure it out, but right now I suspect it to hover around 2k, not one. Chaiyo Kaldor  talk contribs 03:54, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I would be willing to settle with 2k I would say it would be worth that. Instead of this armor I got Sunspear because it is cheaper and looks just as nice, it is not the fact that I didnt have th cash it just semmed unjust for that much of a price.  Also I have only seen 2 people with this armor, i am sure there are more but that is what I saw.  I do think it has to do with the price --Shadowphoenix [[Image:User-Shadowphoenix Shadow Phoenix Signet.jpg|19px]] 03:59, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Two people in your entire Guild Wars... dare I use the word 'career' in relation to an MMO? Anyway, that doesn't surprise me either. I've only seen this twice as well, but the first time I saw it was this article, so I guess it doesn't count. I bet that 5k would be acceptable to some people if the amount of precious gems was cut down to 8 each, at the least. Chaiyo Kaldor  talk contribs 04:10, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes if they cut the price of gems it would be more sutiable for 5k. But until then We all have alot of saving up to do lol --Shadowphoenix [[Image:User-Shadowphoenix Shadow Phoenix Signet.jpg|19px]] 04:15, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I see this armor everywhere and I think it's really nice. Not everyone likes Obsidian but should they lower the price on that? Personal taste shouldnt be cause to make Anet change something. If you don't like it, then don't buy it. I have 3 sets of Vabbian already, and I'll be getting my 4th soon. I love the art, so it's worth the money and time. - B ex [[Image:User BeXoR sig.gif]] 04:26, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Well as i said I luv the armor alot, in fact i think it is realy cool. but i dont think it is worth 5k.  --Shadowphoenix [[Image:User-Shadowphoenix Shadow Phoenix Signet.jpg|19px]] 04:27, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Then don't buy it. :P Loving an armor set includes at least accepting the cost of it. - B ex [[Image:User BeXoR sig.gif]] 04:28, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I plan to eventually buy the armor but i still think it is a horrible price for the armor. --Shadowphoenix [[Image:User-Shadowphoenix Shadow Phoenix Signet.jpg|19px]] 04:32, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Rubies and Saphires are selling for 3.3 K now with 16 of each that cost 105 k alone. This isn't considering the other materials plus the 5k per piece of armor. So the price of 5k a piece is kind of expensive. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.109.77.203 (talk &bull; contribs) at 15:48, 30 April 2008 (UTC).

I don't see anybody's point, it's elite armour, it's supposed to be expensive so those who work hard for it can reap the benefits. (or you could just farm for a long time). when I bought elite kurzick for my ritualist, I didnt complain because it cost nearly 130k, because I liked it, I just bought it.


 * I really don't see what people are complaining about... compared to the price for the materials, the 25k is nothing! If you can afford to buy the materials, the small ammount of money it takes should be really easy to gather up.Katzchen 00:50, 23 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I personally dislike the use of this reason in an argument. The fact of the matter is that 25k compared to 105K is pretty much 25%. So, after raising the 100% you need for the gems and other maths, raising the other 25% is just a kick in the balls since it goes -nowhere-. it's a goldsink nothing more nothing less. At least the gems are shiny. Sparhawk 20:39, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm just going to stick with the fact that I'm grateful it's not 10-15k a peice like every other armor, no matter how expensive the materials are for them. Anet have already reduced the price of this armor by 1/2 to 1/3 of all the other elites, why can people not be satisfied? Katzchen 06:33, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * You're right, its a gold sink. ALL the prestige armors are gold sinks, nothing more nothing less, unless you've found some secret ability in yours.  all your money on any prestige armor goes "nowhere".  you gain nothing from any prestige armor other than the looks.  so how is that even an issue?


 * Um, maybe because it is the 2nd most expensive armor in the game. It really dodes need to be that expensive, honestly; I wouldn't mind if this was brougt down to 1k a piece and then taken off the prestige armor list, because the armor may be nice, but it is not nice enough for me to paymore than what I payed for my elite Luxon armor :P -- Shadowphoenix [[Image:User Shadowphoenix Necromancer.png|19x19px|Please, talk to me; I'm so lonely ;-;]] 21:22, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Then don't get it. [[Image:User Bathory Spirit to Flesh.jpg|18px]] Bathory   talk  16:04, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I decided I wanted this armor. Took me a day and a half to get it, the black dye for it, and the runes for it. If you really truly want this armor, then you'll work for it, no questions asked. --68.214.73.177 04:55, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

No more complains about the price please! If you dont like it, dont buy it. I think its worth every single penny, even if it was 15k per piece I'd have bought it!! (KILL MementoMori 22:34, 22 July 2009 (UTC))
 * Agreed, I wud've bought it too if 15k each, even if it had a double price for 50 ectos as an extra material, though gooey jewels... User_Timus_Madking.jpg‎ Timus  - Talk  15:08, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Entire Cost
Here is the cost of the armor and materials with the current costs of the materials(p for platinum/g for gold): Scar: 16p 165g Chest: 52p 85g Arms: 20p 695g Legs: 36p 390g Feet: 20p 695g Entire Set: 146p 30g I hope these numbers are correct, they should be, but they are going to change eventually. Siria 16:37, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Every "penny" is worth it :P  S entry007  [[Image:User Sentry007 sig.png|19px]] 18:44, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Here's the math at mid-February 2010 merchant prices (including 5p crafting cost per item): This price assumes that you are just buying everything from merchants instead of salvaging any materials yourself. Average price for sapphire and ruby runs 4p 600g - 4p 800g each. Tanned hide squares were way overpriced when I checked today (2x normal), but other components were at their usual cost. The current "average" grand total is probably closer to 190-200p, which is about what mine cost last month. - Tekn0mancer 03:47, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Scar: 25p 780g
 * Tunic: 78p 200g
 * Gloves: 29p 400g
 * Leggings: 53p 800g
 * Boots: 29p 400g
 * Grand Total: 216p 580g

Since the price of rubies/sapphires more than doubled the total cost is now just over 320k [i]for the rubies/sapphires alone[/i]131.180.115.31 10:15, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Clipping issues
I added a note claiming that the female version of this armor has clipping issues with most shields. and YES, it does have clipping issues with about 80% of all shields in Guild Wars, i really tested almost any shield and there are barely any that work with this armor´s gloves. 95.88.121.61 16:58, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't forget the clipping issues with most emotes to. I like this armor but with all its clipping issues it makes me not want to use it.--Yozuk 08:48, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The male version also clips the Lion Mask festival hat from the Canthan New Year. That enormous collar sticks out of the mask's mouth like a tongue, which is actually kind of funny. I'd post a screen cap but can't figure out how. -- Tekn0mancer 15:40, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

prestige?
Are we certain that this armor is indeed prestige armor? On the Ascended armor page uncertainty has been declared... RedShadowHuntress 19:19, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
 * It is as per "Resilience" and Prestige armor. [[Image:User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpg]]Rose Of Kali  13:13, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Looks
In my opinion, the only worthwhile Elite Female Necromancer armour in Elona. Elvynd Doomscythe 20:45 24 January 2010
 * Yep. And this and elite SS are the only ones that don't look retarded on light skin. [[Image:User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpg]]Rose Of Kali 21:53, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Bumblebee!
Lol, I like it and all, but come on, Female one looks like a bug...wtf xD?! And male, i'd get, if it wasn't an overly done, was to overpased crappy vampire theme... with all these vamp obsession, vamps are out of the way.... Haunted Shadow 14:51, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Everything in Vabbi is elaborate and overdone, that's the point. Vabbian armor is excess for the sake of excess, even more so than other Prestige armor sets. -- Tekn0mancer [[File:User_Tekn0mancer-Awaken_the_Blood_19px_sig.jpg]] talk 21:53, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Honestly, the only vabbian armor worth while to me are: Sin, Ele and Ranger more or less.... not only is the model way too overly-done, the price is too....200k+ for all....-_-' wtf? Haunted Shadow 14:44, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Wow!
This armor is the best elite necromancer armor in the game (my opinion...) Spotina 18:03, 21 June 2010 (UTC)