Talk:Raiment of the Lich

Costume
I'll just leave this here: http://www.guildwiki.de/gwiki/images/d/d3/Todbringer-Kost%C3%BCm.png -Curin Derwin 03:17, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm buying this. Finally an evil-looking costume. DemonicFahrirDesecrate_Enchantments.jpg 07:27, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Is "Raiment of the Lich" the correct name? Translation from the german site would be "Deathbringer Costume". 81.206.17.230 16:33, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Go talk to the costume trader.-- Neil  2250  User Neil2250 sig icon6.png 16:39, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, Raiment of the Lich is correct.-- User Oneshot O.JPG ne shot.   23:14, 22 October 2010.

Am i the only one who is reminded of disturbed by this? (Ixillius 23:47, 22 October 2010 (UTC))

Halloween gives you wings XD  I think if i buy a costume is gonna be this one--Batousai 03:21, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, this reminds me of disturbed too. Daeheru 04:43, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * If I was to guess, i'd say that the mighty Kekai Kotaki designed this. Evidence being the brambley thorn circle behind the head that seems to be a feature in many of his Utopia concepts. --Shadow of Dispair 07:51, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * This costume was actually designed and created by Susan Jessup. --Mike Zadorojny 16:17, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Dye Charts.
Dw, I'm doing them now. zzzzzzzzz  Ryuu  -Matters. ♦ 23:28, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Legs!
Am I the only person who would love to see females in the male version of this costume? Awesome goat legs are awesome. (Awesome stilettos are awesome too, but sadly people aren't as accepting of women's clothes on a man as the other way round and I guess it's waste of breath to even mention males in the female costume. :p) --Wormwood 01:54, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd actually much rather look like a sex object than have those demon-ish goat legs. The wings are so fallen angel/angel of death, which are not nesssarily evil. I don't like the clashing of the two themes, if its a demon, where are the draconic wings? eh? --Shadow of Dispair 07:56, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * There's no reason why they can't include the option to for either gender to choose between demon-legs or sexy-legs, in the same way the Lunatic costume has the option of headless or headful versions. :D --Wormwood 13:10, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * If only, if only --74.130.235.214 18:13, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * It would certainly be nice, I think the goat legs look stupid as hell. Necromas 21:46, 24 October 2010 (UTC)


 * If you look closer at the female lich outfit pic, it looks like the feet are cloven hooved, whereas the male feet are not. 69.182.192.223 05:56, 29 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Looking closer in game, and at other pics, both male and female feet are cloven-hooved. 69.182.192.223 23:51, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Still, it's pretty clear that males have goat legs with literal hooves attached, whereas females have human legs clad in normal boots that are simply decorated to look like hooves. *sadface* --Wormwood 15:07, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

The Eye on the Male hands
Does that look like the eye on some of the Assassin skills? 203.118.171.225 02:19, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Options
What are the 3 pieces here? On the Lunatic Finery I understand that there is a helmet, and finery with / without a head. Can someone clear up what the 3rd option is here? Tain 04:23, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * There's two headpieces. One is the cowl and brambles. The other is a simple reskin of your character's face to match the lich skintone.--[[Image:User Pyron Sy sig.png|19px| ]] Pyron Sy 04:26, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Gotcha, sounds decent. Thanks. Tain 04:30, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Lore
Anyone else that would like to know what these guys really are? It has something to do with the lich, but... Meh, Hopefully anet will tell us in the new quests maybe :p --Orgeron 09:35, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The story where anet is milking money by releasing visually superior 'premium' gear. If only they put as much effort in the actual game's armor sets. Obsidian looks like a joke and reskins are all over.  SniperFox [[Image:User_SniperFox_IconSmall.gif]] 11:56, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * @ Orgeron, We don't know if this has something to do with 'The Lich'. Liches are frequently used in Games and stories. --Dragon7 cape emblem.png The Holy Dragons 13:11, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually we kinda know: "While it may not come with your own Scepter of Orr..." or else why would they write that :p --Orgeron 13:51, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * These things seem largely out of place, even if you try and tie them into the Scepter of Orr. More likely one of the designers was aloud to go to a fetish ball and got overly excited.  Though, you never know, I suppose.  000.00.00.00  20:04, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Aion Wings
So, does anyone have a screenshot of the Aion wings emote being used in conjunction with this costume? Lyra' Valo'  12:07, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * nothing special happens just wings.. --Dragon7 cape emblem.png The Holy Dragons 13:12, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Yo dawg, i herd u liek wings so I put wings over your wings so you u fly while u fly!!!1 Jokes aside, I can't wait to try that. It was the first thing on my mind when I saw the costumes. Markus Clouser   [[Image:User_Markus_Clouser_signature_img.jpg|19px]] 17:08, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I've noticed my female elementalist wings have less feather textures than other female classes. They look kinda plain without them -- Goniek  Talk  17:54, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I've taken a [[Media:User_Revelation_Wings.jpg|Screenshot]] for anybody interested, another [[Media:User_Revelation_Wings2.jpg|here]] - R evelation talk 15:01, 27 October 2010 (UTC)


 * The paragon skills that use chants also give a shaded/lightened version of wings when used, and they look kinda wierd when in this costume. 69.182.192.223 04:52, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Cool Clipping issue
I saw a female necro wearing the cowl today, and it looked like they had a smile with it. When I zoomed in it showed that it actually appeared to be the asuran headpiece dyed white. Anyone else want to try this? It looked pretty cool, reminded me even more of Disturbed than this costume already did. It couldn't have been a mod of theirs either because if 1 player has a mod to change the appearance of something only people that are also using the mod will see it. Edit: Their wasn't somebody standing on the person with costume on either. Daeheru 08:32, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Were they wearing just the cowl, and no costume? If so, then it was just their regular armour's chestpiece showing: the "mask" part of the necromancer Asuran armor is part of the chestpiece, not the headpiece. :) --Wormwood 16:46, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Ahh I forgot about the "mask" on the asuran chestpiece. Ya that would be why. It was still pretty cool though because the location is perfect for it to be a smile. I didn't get a screenshot of it though before the person left. Daeheru 01:21, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The asuran chestpiece is just a line, its the elite luxon chestpiece which has the teeth on it [[Image:user melheihaemathet signature.png]] Melhei Haemathet [ contributions ]

Male Buttocks
Today as I was loading into Lions arch, not all the models had fully rendered and I noticed something. The male model is wearing nothing underneath the goat legs! I saw a bare butt. Worth noting? Yorty 00:29, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Why would that be worth noting? &mdash;  Raine Valen  [[Image:User_Raine_R.gif|19px]]  3:30, 29 Oct 2010 (UTC)
 * Maybe cos it's a little 'cheeky'. Huh?  Huh?  :P  000.00.00.00  03:37, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Buh-dum-tss. -- Briar  User Briar Sig 3.jpg  The Spider  06:00, 29 October 2010 (UTC)


 * This also happened to me on a character entering temple of Balthazar. Not sure if it is location specific, or has something to do with the loading of any area.  Sometimes also have noticed what appears to be a chrome finish when on other characters' avatars when entering areas, or a solid black where the armor/costume would presume to be.  69.182.192.223 05:21, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the female costume has the same... feature, only it's not hidden. :P  Ailina 21:32, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Messed up wings
Has anyone else noticed that the wings on the costumes are in different condition depending on which profession your character is? I have a Rit and the wings look kind of rough, like been in a fight, and an ele and the wings look decent. 69.182.192.223 00:13, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it irks me a bit, I like them tattered and would like my ele to look the same. Unless there's some clipping issue with elementalists, I don't see any reason why they would look different from the other classes. I already posted that on Guru, but nobody seems to notice the difference, there's a paragon - http://i56.tinypic.com/dwdydk.jpg and elementalist picture - http://i55.tinypic.com/mw87sp.jpg -- Goniek   Talk  08:02, 30 October 2010 (UTC)


 * I am actually partial to them just looking dark, and not like they were in a fight. 69.182.192.223 05:19, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Did some close up views of my Rit, and it looks more like your para pic, maybe it is that way for the bonus professions but not the core? Not really worth noting for specific professions on the wiki, more just a point of observation.  69.182.192.223 05:24, 31 October 2010 (UTC)


 * (Part 3, sorry) I decided to add the note to the wiki page about the wings appearing differently depending on profession, as this is an actual occurance, and have had others verify this. 69.182.192.223 05:42, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
 * So I've checked all female classes and can confirm, that only female elementalist has the wings plain. I do not see the reason why eles could be "favored" in this matter, so I'm calling it a bug. I cannot check males due to lack of free slots. Players are welcome to check it out and confirm, if they wish. -- Goniek  Talk  12:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Selection Screen glitch
Lately I've noticed that if I highlight a character who is wearing the Raiment of the Lich on the select screen, the camera view moves up so the head is just positioned above the row of character avatars. Anyone else has that problem? Batchie 14:34, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Amulet on back - wires(?) to the front ? What might that be?
Do we know anything about these things? That whole costume has a touch of cyborg, if you ask me. Perhaps a way to animate dead flesh more efficiently?--Cyberman 22:25, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Chains are a wonderful thing. Little loops of metal interlinked.--Neithan Diniem User Neithan Diniem Sig.png]] 22:50, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I think the chains are supposed to look masochistic. --Wormwood 15:08, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Look closely, its body rings (piercings) with chains attached. Same idea as this just different delivery. Nay the One and Only  User Nay_the_One_and_Only_SIG.jpg 04:11, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Graphical problem on Necro Female
It does not seem to affect any of the other classes just necro, there is a chunk of the texture missing on her left thigh making it see through. [] Vrmpsy 23:54, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Wireframes showing through (glitch)
For some reason when I zoom out to a certain distance I see what looks like wire frames in the wings, has anyone else seen this? I'll try to get a screenshot on here later Nay the One and Only  04:42, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
 * <---look in the wings carefully Nay the One and Only User Nay_the_One_and_Only_SIG.jpg 04:52, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
 * When you zoom out, the quality of textures lessen for better performance. What you see are probably the infamous "white edges". -- Goniek  Talk  07:01, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Even with max settings? Idk it never happened on any textures before, look closely at the picture. I know its hard to see but if I zoom in any closer they disappear. I'm trying to get my image editing program to stop being stupid so I can zoom and modify it for a better view. It honestly looks like the wireframe skeleton used to make the character models. If I'm the only one seeing this I guess I can mark it up as my machine and not the game graphics. Just thought I would bring it up. Nay the One and Only User Nay_the_One_and_Only_SIG.jpg 04:06, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
 * No, you're not the only one, everyone see this. It also occurs on other costumes and some armors from EotN (like female mesmer's asuran armor), since they are done with newer methods. I'm not an expert in this matter, so I'm describing observations only. -- Goniek  Talk  08:23, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Update - Friday, November 12, 2010
Here's what I noticed, mind that I mean ONLY FEMALE characters:

Screenshot: http://i55.tinypic.com/ieh4et.jpg -- Goniek  Talk  12:31, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
 * white lines on wings disappeared
 * chunk of missing texture on necro is corrected
 * missing feathers on elementalist's version of the costume are corrected
 * costumes dye now in deeper hue
 * ...probably due to the missing "glossy" layer
 * the frontal tattered cloth is now not transparent
 * ...except on monks and ritualists
 * back tattered cloth and feathers are more transparent than before
 * black writings on handwraps seem to be now "cut out", looks pixelated and kinda ugly
 * mesmer's version of the costume still dyes in the same way as it was before the fix. Actually it seems to be pretty much the same except for some weird pixels on wings (edges look like a checkboard of pixels...) and the gold ornament on mesmer's back that is half covered by the cloth
 * there's a huge chunk of texture missing on monk stomach
 * some red undyeable pixels glaring on the front, which wasn't present before


 * Here's a dye comparison I've seen on my necromancer;


 * User Neil2250 Raiment of the Lich new dye colouring.png


 * Left is the old one, rights the new one. (same dye combo's)-- Neil • User Neil2250 sig icon6.png 13:22, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
 * It may or may not be relevant, but the scarecrow mask you are wearing is also a different color. Perhaps you were standing in a differently lit environment? -Curin Derwin 16:31, 19 November 2010 (UTC)


 * I think the new Raiment is horrible, I want the old one back. I don't want to see everyone's ass, and there's no reason for the back flap to be semi transparent anyway. Plus the new colours are tremendously dull and dirty looking. Plus since the change was a 'fix' for the lines on the Raiment, it clearly wasn't intended. And yes I've also noticed my female mesmer's assflap to be less transparent.--Kryzz 06:49, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 * The reason for different colours is probably the lack of layer that gave the "shine" to the costume. I'd also be for reverting them to the pre-fix version, I'd get over the lack of feathers on my ele's wings somehow... We can just hope tor the things to get fixed if the artists finds the time. I've left a whole list of "whatswrong's" on Guru forums regarding female version of the costume, I wonder if I should edit my note above. -- Goniek  Talk  11:49, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Dervish
Woot, Derv girls in this + a bow > Ranger bikini or Ritualist miracle bra, GJ Anet finally got it ;)--61.219.36.14 12:08, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't know that Costume makers are also breast surgeons, make female dervs from A to E, even more busty than Rts in this costume.--64.255.180.66 07:08, 8 April 2011 (UTC)