Talk:Flare

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[edit] DPS Data

Full data gathered while Testing Damage per second(DPS)
2,016 Over 62 seconds.
average dps of 32.
Best damage in a single second of 56 at 1 second
Death occurred at 18 seconds
Data collected using the standards written Here.
~ Zero rogue x 08:10, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm confused. If the spell's damage is 56 at 12 fire magic, and all standard projectile spells like this one have a .75 second Aftercast delay, isn't it just assumed that the base DPS of this skill is (56/1.75) = 32? I'm okay with your numbers, I'm just wondering if it's worth bothering to list the DPS for every skill? (especially one so simple to calculate without a training dummy as this one is...) --Mystisteel 20:34, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Im doing all elementalist skills, This is just one of the first. ~ Zero rogue x 21:18, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Right, but for what reason? As I've said in your analysis of MoR, it's quite pointless. Skills are either very easy to calculate, such as this one, or it's completely impossible to list all the right conditions for a spell to be of use (MoR, in which you listed how much damage it does against a single target). I'm not asking you what you're doing, I know that. I'm asking you why in the world are you doing it?

Maybe he is just really, really bored.Old Man Of Ascalon 23:25, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

It's not that hard, just flare spam the master of damage at the isle of the nameless and he gives the stats, rouge did the same thing. Justing6 22:48, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

I think rogue is making a very good point actually.It shows how low youre damage output actually is when youre WASTING all youre energy on this skill.It needs a buff obviously Lilondra *gale* 15:35, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

On a primary mesmer with fast casting 16, the dps is raised to 56. Paddymew 13:04, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

And what if you shorten recharge time with spells? Does it go up, or down? /snarky | 72 {U|T|C} 14:38, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

If can spam spells more you can deal more damage... isn't it obvious ? Elephant 14:51, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

If you can spam spells, I can deal more damage? Also, by your reasoning, numbers aren't needed for damage calculation, since "it's obvious they will die at some point anyway". I didn't say "ME DOES MORE DAMAGE HURR DURR", I specified the dps. Paddymew 16:55, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

56/(.48+.75) != 56 dps. 24.197.253.243 17:08, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Indeed, more like 45.5. Which is still interesting in that it's better than an Ele with 16 Fire Magic, which is ~39. | 72 {U|T|C} 18:45, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Skill icon

Am i the only one that's seeing a burning flying skull in this pic? —ZerphaThe Improver 02:51, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Let's have a look.

Sorry, I do not see it. - Vanguard 16:59, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

I see it, somewhat. its more looking downwards from my angle, but I see it. I think its just coincidence there. Wandering Traveler 18:18, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

I talked to someone about this before, it's completely unintentional. One can easily make an accidental illusion if you only have so many pixels to work with. 76.235.135.238 23:02, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Huh, imagine that. I never noticed the skull in there >_> NeonCrusader 21:57, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

*cough Pareidolia cough* -- Salome 15:43, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

I see Jesus in that fireball. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Misery (talk). 15:45, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

I see Fire in that fireball Lilondra *gale* 16:38, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

I've seen fire and I've seen rain. Once, at the same time. --Belker 05:30, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Still not seeing it. Vili 05:47, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

[[1]]--Acerbity 12:52, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Won uw in HA with 6 people taking flare, uploading screenie tomorrow 62.140.137.125 22:19, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Notes

"Combines well with Fire Attunement and Aura of Restoration. "

So would every other Fire Magic skill. It's not noteworthy enough to be honest. Using a fire magic skill with another skill that gives you energy for fire magic skill usage is like 1+1 = 2. It's nothing specific to this skill, or even a small group of skills. -- Brains12 \ talk 18:46, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

I disagree. The combo allows you to continuously spam it without running out of energy. Something that hasn't been possible until the update. So I find it very relevant to note that. 145.94.74.23 17:22, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Or you could do something sensible like switch to Dervish and smack shit with your rape stick for twice the damage Flare does and also not run out of energy, plus you don't have to keep pressing a button over and over to do it. Bad combos don't need to be mentioned. --Jette 19:09, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Just like mending helps mitigate extra damage taken while frenzy heal sigging, so it's a good combo and must be wikified!Pika Fan 19:14, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

You mean like switching to a Dervish that is unblockable, unblindable and doesn't need speed boosts or snares to catch his target right? Of course a scythe does more damage, but that doesn't mean that spamming flare inbetween your big spells is automatically useless. 145.94.74.23 06:24, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Actually, it does, because you dropped a good skill for a bad one. Vili 点 06:27, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

What Vili said. If you even have flare on your bar, you are doing something very wrong. -Auron 06:28, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

The actually good combo is Mind Blast, Immolate, Fire Attunement, Aura of Restoration. That being said, that is practically an entire build, so please shut up. Misery 06:49, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

If the best thing you can find to do is spam flare as an ele, you may wish to consider reading the guide on how to play. Oh, wait... that guide sucks. Brb, rewriting (tell no-one). And in regards to the comment about blindness and whatever, I was making a generalization. If you want to be immune to that shit, just run Rodgort's. --Jette 07:17, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey. Dual attune FC flare gets me gladz. Raine - talk

Did you know that by using Double Dragon and Glyph of Elemental Power, you could be spamming Flare at 20 Fire Magic for 80 damage every 1.75 seconds or so? That's incredible. Vili 点 21:55, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Did you know that If I D-shot you once, you stand still for 20 seconds? ~Shard 22:08, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Remember that AB where you, Swift and I kept taking turns d-shotting that guy's flare?--*Yasmin Parvaneh* 22:18, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

The bar has enough space to also spam Meteor and Rodgort's on recharge.

Also, fastcasting. Raine - talk 22:19, 12 June 2009 (UTC)