Talk:Spoil Victor

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Small addition to notes

"Ressurecting an ally will also trigger Spoil Victor (assuming that the resurrection skill is a spell), but casting a healing spell one oneself doesn't". Results were predictable since a dead ally with 0 hp likely has less hp than the monk resurrecting him, but to be sure I tested it in a scrimmage match. QED 14:24, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Question, if you have negative hp (like getting deepwound when you have less than 20% hp) will it still trigger when rezzing? StatMan 22:18, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Note Changes

Changed note to read "...for players who don't have Factions." instead of Prophecies.(Aeos 20:40, 22 September 2007 (UTC))

Reverted, as this skill is used as a replacement for Spiteful Spirit which can only be found in Prophecies - I've updated the note to clarify that. As a side note, not having Factions will remove accessibility to this skill. Oscidaes 20:42, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
Replacement? I prefer this over Spiteful Spirit, pretty much everywhere. =\ Shouldn't the note say something instead of opinions (prefered, used instead of etc etc)? RitualRitualistDoll 05:17, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
No, it should say that this > SS when fighting few but strong enemies, but SS > this when fighting lots of less powerful enemies. Paddymew 16:56, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Icon

Does anyone know what the skill icon is ? Crazy 12:31, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Looks like someone with a Laurel wreath to me. That would make sense given the "victor". --Xeeron 15:57, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Kinda looks like my dad shouting :) Ninjas In The Sky 14:22, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
^i lolled :p , it looks like that necro icon with a medusa head too.. :p 78.20.153.111 19:23, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Evokes the "Olympic Laurels" and bibilical "Crown of Thorns" Farlong 08:53, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Looks like Jughead, if someone had just jacked his plate of burgers. (96.225.75.201 00:50, 24 September 2008 (UTC))

Doubt Note

I was thinking of adding this note but I don't want it to be seen as a personal opinion and might need some word play:

  • To forcefully activate Spoil Victor against a NPC, you can send in a low level pet or minions to attack the NPC, thus since the pet/minions have lower health it will trigger Spoil Victor once the NPC attacks or activates a spell against them.--ShadowFog 15:51, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
That's true, but anywhere where SV is arguably needed, everything you'll be fighting will be higher than lvl 20 anyways. --click moar Mafaraxas 00:01, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
"This triggers on stuff w/ lower health, so send in stuff w/ lower health" seems a lil too obvious to note. 66.190.15.232 00:40, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
Yes it's obvious but more obvious if you can exploit it like this.--ShadowFog 02:03, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Ambiguous description

The skill description could be read to mean that SV triggers when casting spells on targets with lower health and when attacking (something independent of its current health).--69.117.36.57 03:13, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

i guess i never read it that way. It seams clear to me anyhow--Justice 05:11, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

this

owns monks if it's not removed in time 86.91.141.232 14:11, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

it owns about everything. ---Chaos- 14:59, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
I run this on a blood necro in place of the curses necro in the modified sabway I use with my Rt... the combination of low health spirits and low powered minions cause the enemys to obliterate themselves killing the unimportant targets... MrPaladin talk 15:02, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Blood?

Shouldnt this skill be curses? I dont see why its blood. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Raptaz Fanatic (talk).

Life loss ;o .. Oh, and having viable blood skills to bring ofc.. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 14:41, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
Yea, and balance. That's a funny thing, balance. NuVII 15:05, 1 November 2009 (UTC)