User talk:Silver Edge

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Signature?

I've always wondered why you don't get your signature to link to your talk page instead of the non existant user page? If you just liked the color of the broken link you could use [[User talk:Silver Edge|<span style="color:#a55858">Silver Edge</span>]] which would produce an identical appearance to the current one you use ( it would look like Silver Edge ). Chieftain Alex 13:38, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

I use the "Your signature with timestamp" button found at the top of the editing window and I haven't entered anything in the "New signature" field in my preferences. One issue with linking to my talk page is that my signature will be bold when used on my talk page because it links to this page (e.g. Silver Edge), which I find to look a little odd. --Silver Edge 20:42, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

You can always add some more css to fit your needs ;) Silver Edge [[User talk:Silver Edge|<span style="color:firebrick;font-weight:normal;">Silver Edge</span>]] ***EAGLEMUT*** TALK 17:02, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I've changed the link in my signature to link to my talk page. Thanks guys. Happy editing! --Silver Edge 21:21, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

New Category

Maybe it needs a discussion so it doesnt look like an "edit battle". If Guild Wars Wiki is to provide players with information and we already have user (character) pages and also guild pages... why not alliance lists as well? Maybe you could put some sort of global announcement at the top like election message sometimes appear. So that all alliances that find this link (feature) usefull can add themselves. I was just the first one. Which I feel kinda odd considering the game has 6 years.Yoshida Keiji 10:48, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Time on upcomming...

I was looking ahead to see what is comming up, and noticed the time for Wintersday is saying 2pm or would it be 12pm start?.MystiLefemEle 08:27, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

I just copy and pasted the announcement that appeared for last year's Wintersday from Weekend events/2010. If I remember correctly, last year's Wintersday started later than the usual noon start time. --Silver Edge 08:53, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Light my Fire and vanqing

Hi there, I'm going to copy the vanq comment back to the HM page because: If going for vanq you're by definition in HM so you might as well do the HM version of LmF for better rewards instead of doing the HM thingie twice. Steve1 13:22, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Generally, we point to the nm quest, since the walkthrough and notes are identical (or nearly so); we do this for the same reason that we post one walkthrough for quests, missions, and dungeons: even though some spawns (and mechanics) are different, most of the advice is the same.

For this particular situation, I'm ambivalent about whether it needs to be present on both LMF and LMF (HM) or not: the suggestion shouldn't be missed, but really, the main reason we have a LMF (HM) is simply b/c the quest ID is different — people really should be encouraged to read/post at LMF and talk:LMF.

I have rephrased the note, however: the synergy is one way: you should take a few additional minutes to VQ as long as you have started LMF, but you shouldn't go out of your way to ensure you have LMF (or LMF-HM) active if you were planning on VQing (there's a lot of extra steps to make that happen). – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 16:48, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

→ moved from User talk:Tennessee Ernie Ford#Light my Fire

What I was trying to get to was the following: If you're planning to do both the NM and HM version of LmF plus the area vanq then it would be best to wait with the vanq until you can do the HM version of this Q. THen it's only 1x nm + 1x hm unstead of 2x hm. Steve1 16:45, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

There are two distinct one-way synergies. One is about taking a few extra steps for a substantial reward; the other is about minmax advance planning. The first is useful to know before starting the quest; the second is useful to know before beginning the VQ. Accordingly, there are similar (but distinct) notes on the relevant articles. (I admit, however, that the VQ note implies, but does not explicitly state the full benefit of avoiding a third visit to the area.) – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 16:57, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm fine with the way things are now. Although there's one thing I would like to add: The "taking a few extra steps for a substantial reward" is for the LMF HM version! ;) If you're doing the LMF NM Q, then it's not just a few extra steps, you have to change from NM to HM and things are bit more of a hassle then. ;-D

PS: Are you following me around? I think I saw you zeroing in on quite a few of my edits recently. ^^ Steve1 17:18, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

D'oh! Good point about the "few extra steps." Not enough caffeine? I'll fix it (if you haven't done so already).

Re:stalking. No, that's your ego talking ;-) More seriously: I do (sometimes) patrol RC and use recent edits as an excuse to spot check an article. All of our articles deserve to updated to current wiki standards, but it's too much work to review even a small fraction of those without recent edits. Sometimes someone updates an article with a useful idea, but forgets to update the same on similar articles...and again, patrolling RC is the easiest way to notice. – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 18:09, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Hadn't had the time - but you were quick enough!

I had a lengthy talk with my ego and it says you're wrong! ;)

Hullo Mr. SilverEdge, we're having this conversation here on your very own user page so you could chime in instead of just reverting our edits on the LMF HM site. Steve1 21:44, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm actually okay with SilverEdge's edit: as mentioned, we really treat the HM-quest pages as placeholders/pointers and include all relevant details on the nm pages. It's cleaner to be consistent about it b/c it means that folks will know that they should always look at the nm-quest page. If we start putting useful notes on any HM-quest pages, it will mean people will also have to look at both pages to be sure they found everything. (In fact, I have been thinking that it might have been a mistake for us to create two quest pages rather than to treat these like mish & dungeons: they, too, have identical names in nm/HM, but different spawns etc...but that's a convo for another time.) – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 22:32, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Fanboi, pah! j/k In that case I have a suggestion: Add a marker to HM Qs about the NM article (like NM Qs have if there is a corresponding HM Q) e.g. "This quest has a Normal mode version — see Questnamehere. That page may include additional information!" I've been lurking on this wiki since its very beginnings - and know about that placeholder standard since about 6 hours. And I think other folks may have similar experiences. Steve1 23:24, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Correct way to create a duplicate image

What is the correct way for me to create a duplicate image (e.g. for Nicholas the Traveller when he is in a location that he has visited previously)? Thanks in advance. --Combatter 23:23, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

As suggested at Talk:Nicholas the Traveler#DPL on Nicholas the Traveler/Research, redirects should be used. If you click the red link that appears in the infobox on Nicholas the Traveler when no image has been created, it will take you to the Upload file page (where you cannot create a redirect), so you should instead copy the file name (e.g. File:Nicholas the Traveler date.jpg) and paste it into the search box and click go or search and then click the red link that appears there to create the redirect. --Silver Edge 05:50, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! :-) --Combatter 09:32, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Xunlai agent

Shouldnt the rest of the "Xunlai Agent" mentions be changed to "Xunlai agent"? Drogo Boffin 05:57, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Of the three instances of "Xunlai Agent" in the dialogue, only that one uses a lowercase "agent". --Silver Edge 06:09, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Ah nice catch. Drogo Boffin 06:09, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Unclaimed items

Thanks for fixing my mistaken and repeated attempts to describe how to reposition the box. My apologies for creating extra work for you. (Also: have a happy and a merry.) – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 23:58, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

No problem. Happy holidays to you also. --Silver Edge 05:54, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the help

Thanks for the format editing on the Quetzal Crest page.--Remlwc 08:02, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. Happy editing! --Silver Edge 08:06, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Skills and Targets

I've seen that you've partially reverted your edits, but here's a few thoughts about targeting anyway:

• Target isn't just a synonym for "selected creature", it's a term that's relevant for Shame, Mistrust, Guilt, Vow of Silence, Well of the Profane, Spell targeting prevention and others.
• The target is usually the selected creature, but there are documented exceptions.
• Gaze of Fury is not considered to target the selected foe, but the spirit that gets replaced. target=spirits and a note was (imho) the best way to document that.
• Doublecast skills currently consider the selected creature to be the target, even if it's a foe. See this forum thread. Whether or not that's a bug remains to be seen. For now, I think we should either wait on the official word or document it as an anomaly.

Not a complaint, just a FYI. Thanks for the work you're doing on the wiki! Tub 01:16, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Should I make any additional changes, reverts or leave it as is for now? --Silver Edge 04:34, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

[Defend North Kryta Province (Hard mode)]

1) NONE of the other titan Qs list their NM counterpart as a prereq!

2) and that's because in case of the titan Qs it's strictly linear: defend DF (NM) -> defend denravi/ NK (all NM) / LLD -> titan source (NM) -> defend DF (HM) -> defend denravi/ NK (all HM) / LLD -> titan source (HM)

2b) so the NM Qs are not a req for their HM counterpart, they are for some earlier Qs

2c) in case of the beyond Qs it's different: you don't need to finish the whole NM Q line before you can begin the HM Qs. So there both the NM Q and the preceding HM Q are both real prereqs.

3) So I will undo your undo again, because it wasn't correct! Steve1 09:19, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Sorry for my mistaken revert. --Silver Edge 20:02, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

NP, I hope I didn't sound too patronizing ... :S Steve1 21:44, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Weekend Activities

Thanks for fixing up my complete fail with the weekend announcement for Alliance Battles. Couldn't work it out early in the morning. Robdalf 19:12, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

No problem. --Silver Edge 20:02, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Plural meaning singular

I think plural nouns can also target singular entities right? As in, "people wanting to catch the train should leave early" also applies to a single person. Although, in the case of Guild Wars and Glimmering Mark, it would definitely be more accurate to say "target foe" if only meaning the target :). P.S. This is just for discussion's sake, not serious about the bug note :). udas 21:24, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

True. I find it odd that they used that description for Glimmering Mark. Fevered Dreams also affects foes in proximity of the target foe, but its description clearly states that only the target foe will get dazed. I see there is an active topic about Glimmering Mark on the support forum, perhaps someone from QA will clear up whether Glimmering Mark's functionality was suppose to match its description. --Silver Edge 21:53, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Odd?

Can you explain this edit? Chieftain Alex 22:56, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

After taking a quick glance, I thought the content was spam. I'll pay closer attention next time. --Silver Edge 04:22, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Finding Gadd‎

How is it worded in the game? It looks like it should say "inscription stone" instead of "inscription" Drogo Boffin 06:03, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

It's "inscription" in-game (screenshot). --Silver Edge 08:27, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Ah thanks. I cant log in right now. I woulda taken your word for it. Drogo Boffin 14:26, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

"You" vs "Your party" in solo mission

Hello! I fixed yesterday the "party" in notes in Tihark Orchard, you returned back to previous version. I wouldn't like to insist that I was right and I know that it's a common phrase almost for all mission notes; besides this, a single person is a particular case of a party. However, my point is that a common sense is more important. No other players, heroes or henchmen can enter this mission; also the summoned allies and pets (not strictly a party members) cannot travel to outpost with player anyway, the same for mission-assigned allies (Vabbi Guards). Solo mission, solo finish. --Slavic 15:16, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

I've edited it again so it's now consistent with the note on Augury Rock, the only other solo cooperative mission. --Silver Edge 22:11, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

PvP skill notes

I wasn't going to copy the notes over originally, but then I saw that they were for some like Savannah Heat. Should the (duplicate) notes be removed from those PvP skills? Regardless I won't be around to mess up pages on this wiki much longer, I've got to get some sleep. Toraen 05:37, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

I originally did this for the hard mode quest pages that were created during part one of Winds of Change, where the information that can be found on the non-hard mode quest page isn't repeated on the hard mode quest page. That format was also continued to be used on the hard mode quest pages that were created by other users with the release of WoC part two and three. Since then, I've removed redundant notes, related skills, and trivia from PvP skill pages only when I encounter them; I haven't gone on a mass cleanup of all PvP skill pages (the reasons probably being that I haven't gotten around to it yet and I was also waiting to see if there was any opposition to it). I found that having the the same notes, related skills, and trivia on the PvE and PvP skill pages was redundant (since the pages are linked to each other at the top of the pages) and meant that two pages had to be edited when changing any of that aforementioned information (and I've seen occasions where the information is changed on one page, but not on the other). --Silver Edge 06:07, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Morale Boost

Hi, I saw that Dwarven Raider will give a MB after 25 kills. Do you know if the other 3 Reputation Blessings in EotN also give a MB after 25 kills? Steve1 16:18, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

I believe that's only the case for Dwarven Raider, since that's the only blessing that can be received in dungeons, while the others can be received in explorable areas. --Silver Edge 18:02, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Okay, understood, thanks. And one will not get a MB after 25 kills without Dwarven Raider? I was under the impression that the MB is a dungeon specific thing.Steve1 16:23, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

It's definitely linked to number of foes killed...and I've always assumed that required the bounty/blessing. I'll delay taking one next dungeon visit to see if it happens anyhow. – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 16:53, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Awesome! Thanks in advance. I haven't been inside a dungeon in ages ... :D Steve1 17:28, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Edit Conflict

Thanks for helping clean up that article a bit...First time I've created an NPC page. :P -- Thon Ghul|Talk 21:56, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome. Happy editing! --Silver Edge 21:59, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

YHM

You have mail (slightly timely, not anything critical — just sharing an observation).

In other news, I like what you did with Blood Pact, the Flux on historical content, and the updates for the festival. – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 04:55, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Wintersday in July sales

The NCSoft/GW1 store is having a "Wintersday in July" sale for 3 weeks (each week, a different offer). I thought I remembered something in the login messages, but I didn't see it today.

It seems to me that this should be linked to the "this week" or "this month" sections of the main page or somehow be more prominent, but... I'm not sure what would work best. I'm posting on your talk instead of main/edit copy, news, or events because I'm not altogether sure where this should go.

I'm hoping you might remember how we handled this the last time there was a changing sales event that coincided with an in-game festival.

(For those playing along at home, the current sale started 5 July and is a 50% discount on individual merc slots and 50% off any skill-unlock pack; no word that I could find on what will be on sale on the 12th or 19th. The announcement for this year's WiJ comes late, since it's in a week. (It's also taking place about a week sooner than normal, no doubt to avoid a conflict with BWE#3.) ) – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 17:31, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Usually festival-related sales, i.e. costumes, are noted on the festival page. I don't think there has ever been a "changing sales event that coincided with an in-game festival". There was the Sixth Anniversary Sale that occurred for five weeks from May to June 2011 with a different sale each week, but that didn't start until the last day of the Sixth Year Anniversary Celebration, so it didn't actually coincide with an in-game festival and was more of a sales event in celebration of six years since the release of Prophecies. That sale was only mentioned on the wiki via the GuildWars.com news and Sixth Year Anniversary Celebration, but the latter only had a note about the sale added to the page when it was the second week of the five week sale and it was at a time when the Sixth Year Anniversary Celebration no longer appeared on the Main Page since that in-game event was over.

You could either add a link to GuildWars.com news#July 5th, 2012 in the "this week" or "this month" section of Main Page or, since it has already been announced on the official site create Wintersday in July 2012 and mention the sales there and link to that in-game event page in a "next week" section on the Main Page. The former would probably be the better option since the sales event is three weeks long, while the in-game event itself only runs for a weekend and having a link to Wintersday in July 2012 on the Main Page when that weekend event is over would be odd.

I wouldn't call this year's Wintersday in July as being announced late on http://www.guildwars.com/, when other events, such as the Dragon Festival, don't get announced on the official site and have their event page updated until the day the event starts.

Also, the Wintersday in July event isn't "taking place about a week sooner than normal". It always occurs in mid-July, the first weekend after the "Arena Bonus Weekend" (2008, 2009, 2010, 2011). --Silver Edge 22:13, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Wintersday in July 2012

I know the notes section is found in previous WiJ events, but they both seem redundant. I would think a note would be in order if CCS dropped from PvE foes. When I first read it, I thought perhaps this year was going to be different. Just thought I'd run that by you for your consideration. Thanks! Sardaukar 05:14, 10 July 2012 (UTC)