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Restoration request

Please restore this as per Guild_Wars_Wiki:Formatting/Missions. I don't know why a sysop would delete it, when it's part of a guideline usage. Kaisha User Kaisha Sig.png 07:08, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Guidelines are guidelines. They do not trump consensus, and it looks to me like there's a consensus on the relevant talk pages that this template and the others like it are redundant, with the only objections raised being appeals to bureaucracy. A deletion tag was placed, it was left in place for 2 weeks to allow for discussion, and then deleted appropriately. Not restoring. Feel free to work on making the guideline reflect consensus. - Tanetris 07:55, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
Will do, once consensus is formed on the reflecting talk page. Kaisha User Kaisha Sig.png 08:21, 13 August 2011 (UTC)


page created by another user 15:28, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

never mind, I thought blackname had no contribs 16:20, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Changing a talk page comment made by another user (talkcontribslogsblock log) has changed a talk page comment made by another user [1] and reverted an edit that changed the comment back to its original form. [2] The user that originally made that comment has stated that the IP isn't him. --Silver Edge 05:03, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Considering the IPs only three edits are reverting someone's comments for no apparent reason (other than censorship perhaps?), I've blocked him. ~FarloUser Farlo Triad.pngTalk 05:27, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Trying to edit a table. Autoblocked?

Trying to change a page under my userspace. User:ChaosBurst/Char Table. Reason: "Mainspace, large removal (not autoconfirmed)" ChaosBurst 04:54, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

check the talk page they are talking about this exact issue.-User Zesbeer sig.png Zesbeer 05:43, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
This issue is slightly separate from the one on the talk. But yeah, user pages were supposed to be excluded from this filter, but apparently I didn't take into account sub-pages. It should be fixed, but I'll try to keep an eye on it. --JonTheMon 12:30, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
IDK if you were saying you fixed or it still needs to be fixed, but if it was the former, than, its still messed up :(( ChaosBurst 13:25, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
Give it one more try? --JonTheMon 13:35, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Guild drama

Cupcake Brigade--vandalized 3x in last few days. Vandal bounty123 (talkcontribs (deleted) • logsblock log) Vandal (talkcontribs (deleted) • logsblock log) Vandal (talkcontribs (deleted) • logsblock log). 02:00, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Signet of Secrets (again)

For the 12-month period ending mid-July 2011, there were 83 edits to the Signet of Spirits article:

  • 6 were substantial and were made by registered users.
  • 3 were administrative protective edits.
  • 74 were vandalistic or reversions of vandalism.

As a result, the article was blocked for three months. 50 hours after the block expired, the article was vandalized another 10 times over a 48 hour period, which resulted in several more administrative blocks, each of which was evaded by the vandal.

This article is an attractive nuisance. It will keep getting vandalized as long as the vandal has access to the internet.

I urge the admins to indefinitely extend the current semi-protection. (At the very least, it should be be longer than the previous block, which would be consistent with how blocks are extended against individuals.) The last 15 months provide strong evidence that the community is better off with the protection than without. Thanks. – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 00:58, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Given the rate of vandalism and the stubbornness of a few of them, I'd agree with the continued protection of the page, at least for unregistered users. ~FarloUser Farlo Triad.pngTalk 01:17, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Is there any way to trace the vandal IP and contact local authorities/his ISP? Generally internet vandalism isn't taken lightly by said organizations. That would be a better long-term solution to the problem, both for the user with mental troubles and for the wiki. -Auron 05:56, 17 October 2011 (UTC) and, both coming from New Jersey on Verizon. I've never contacted an ISP about vandalism, but if you wish, go for it. Oddly enough, both IPs have less blacklists (according to that site) than mine o.0 ~FarloUser Farlo Triad.pngTalk 08:42, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Use of the GW2 wiki to evade email blocks

Given the global nature of accounts here, apparently users blocked from emailing users on this wiki can still use the other one to email the same users, since account information is all the same there, or something. So while I'm not sure if this is the right place to bring it up, someone might want to do something about that. Maybe. I dunno. I mean, they are separate wikis, and all; in theory someone with terrible issues here could behave there, right? Although I suppose using there for ban evasion isn't exactly behaving, now is it... *wanders off, mumbling* -— Apheori (talk) 02:24, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Use different e-mail addresses for the two wikis if you're worried about harassment. User Felix Omni Signature.pngelix Omni 03:36, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
It's not that; a User:Ariyen apparently emailed multiple users trying to get them to edit for her by proxy, and considering that she's banned on both wikis, indefinitely with email blocked here, and for a year there, it seems to be a bit of a hole, especially since by default any user here is contactable through the same account and account information on that. Basically a form of ban evasion, but while I don't know how the database(s) are set up around here, either a global block or just changing the settings there too would resolve it in cases such as this. I didn't really want to get involved with specifics, though. Sometimes specifics involve scary bitey things, especially when it involves... folks... -— Apheori (talk) 10:37, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
It's up to those users to simply ignore her - she probably has their contact information from past exchanges. Or are people still really getting emails *via* the wiki from her? -Auron 12:44, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
Oh, yea, she's not email blocked over there. I'll fix that. -Auron 12:51, 27 October 2011 (UTC) (talkcontribslogsblock log)

Not sure what should be done, if anything about this, its proxy of User:Nathe, as mentioned here, and evasion of ban. Basically he reposted all his spam but in text form at the bottom of all the anet employee pages. User Chieftain Alex Chieftain Signature.pngChieftain Alex 17:21, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Looks like Jon handled it. ~FarloUser Farlo Triad.pngTalk 18:16, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Orzech Ochronaiarz (talkcontribslogsblock log)

he posted this link in the page "aion wings" under "Here you can find free Aion Wings key". judging from the type of link it looks like a pishing or scam site, but i don't dare to check... --User Kyx signature Skull.gifKyx 20:45, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

In the future please just link the contribs rather than the ad link in question. Blocked. - Tanetris 21:26, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Global CSS changes for the Interactive Maps

Following this discussion,

We're trying to implement shadows and better text effects for the maps, but for them to work on IE, we'd need to edit MediaWiki:Common.css. I've copied the code to be added into the hidden box below (it breaks the page layout) so we can keep the discussion in one place. I'm not very knowledgable in the code myself, so I'll leave this one up to Tub to explain. ~FarloUser Farlo Triad.pngTalk 04:48, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
I'll go through the discussion later today and add it if necessary. poke | talk 14:06, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Wintersday Theme and feature

Both are done and ready to go live, preferably on Monday (so hom walk thew can get its 2 weeks) normally i poke poke about this [pun intended] but felt like i should let any admin have the pleasure of making the change. -User Zesbeer sig.png Zesbeer 23:25, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

^this please^-User Zesbeer sig.png Zesbeer 05:37, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
ups, i'm slow. -Auron 00:33, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
Why you so slow?? ~FarloUser Farlo Triad.pngTalk 02:19, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Nicholas the Traveler new maps

tl;dr: if asked to delete a new Nick location map in favor of a redirect, also remember to create the redirect article using the same URL (and pointing to the cycle #1 file with the same location).

gory details: For the moment, I think the consensus is that we continue naming Nick's location maps using the first cycle's naming convention, Nicholas the Traveler location YYYYMMDD.jpg. For any cycle #2 locations that are repeats, we should create redirects rather than uploading duplicate maps. Anyone can do this by typing the correct file name into the search box and then clicking on the redlink for creating a new article.

However, since this cannot be done using the upload file utility, we are probably going to see other examples of people creating files (instead of redirects). This will lead to requests to delete that file so that the redirect can be created. As soon as that happens, we will lose this week's map from Nick's article until we create the redirect.

Alternatively, we could go with a new naming convention (and update the relevant templates):

  1. Cycle 1: Nicholas the Traveler location <requestedItem>.jpg
  2. Cycle 2:
    • If same location, use same convention.
    • If different location, use Nicholas the Traveler location <requestedItem> Cycle 2.jpg.
This allows for an arbitrary number of new requests and new locations and is extensible through a third cycle (if GW1 is even around in 2015). For what it's worth, it's almost exactly what Guild Wiki has done.
Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 00:19, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
Tub implemented a better solution, making the above moot. – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 19:53, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Bonus effect

Are main space talk pages suppose to be deleted if its associated article was deleted, even though the talk page had the deletion discussion relating to the deletion of the article? If no, then Talk:Bonus effect should be restored, since that discussion may help users in the future determine if that page should be created. --Silver Edge 08:28, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

I agree, some (most?) similar discussions are worth preserving. Could an admin restore the talk page? Maybe Silver Edge or I can find another article to which the convo can be moved. – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 18:06, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
For reference's sake, GW2W has gw2:Category:Orphaned talk pages for this purpose (and the discussions are kept on their original pages).
Edit: forgot I'm an admin again and can view deleted pages. Anyway. I generally prefer to keep talk pages when they have substantial or important discussion which could be relevant to other cases or that same case should someone else recreate the page. That doesn't really apply to this talk page (it's 3 short comments regarding one skill that one user interpreted in a way that most others wouldn't/didn't). pling User Pling sig.png 18:12, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
Good to know that GW2W had something setup for this kind of thing, and I'm all for doing the same here, but like Pling said, I don't think this particular page has enough discussion or importance to bother saving. ~FarloUser Farlo Triad.pngTalk 20:47, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
Maybe Silver Edge and I are misremembering which discussion took place where — neither of us are admins, so we don't have access to the deleted text. – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 20:50, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
I was actually thinking of where to copy the text for you guys to see but I got distracted, so here it is. ~FarloUser Farlo Triad.pngTalk 22:06, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Wintersday is over

Alas, the main page is still showing the cool wintergreen/minty fresh colors. (On the other hand, it's nearly CNY, so perhaps we should just switch in two weeks to its theme, assuming there is one.) – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 19:52, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Well where's the fun in that? I reverted to the last non-Wintersday theme. Where there any changes besides the theme that I missed? ~FarloUser Farlo Triad.pngTalk 20:17, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. (The only way I would know if there were diffs between main and edit copy is to diff the two.) – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 20:23, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Partywide IMS and Related Skills

I recently updated the "related skills" lists of various IMS skills, because I disagreed that some of the skills in the lists were related. But also because I wished for them to be more specific and as so narrowed down. Afterall, there are specific Pages for skills that are closely related all up, such as IMS, IAS etc. However some of my edits were reverted, and when confronting the person who reverted them (which I did in a somewhat rude manner, without it being the intention, and for that I apologize), I was met with hostility, and continuous refusal of discussing or focussing on the disagreement, and rather use personal attacks (however discreet they might have been). The user who reverted my edits is Thrain (talkcontribslogsblock log). Exmaples of hostility include make obviously poor examples that the user attached as being my opinion (making me sound stupid) "by your logic Seed of Life shouldn't be linked to Healing Seed". "Seed of Life and Healing seed shouldn't be linked, they can just check the enchantment page if they want to use them!". Examples of lacking interest in discussing include "Yes, 6 linked skills is better than 2 or 3 in this case. Why? Because there are 6 skills that related to it." Hope to get a revision of this issue, and get it settled. Thank you very much Gaudy Gourd God 17:48, 5 February 2012 (UTC)


User posted access key information, could this be deleted from the page history? Thanks. --ஸ Kyoshi User Kyoshi sig2.png 20:09, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Done. pling User Pling sig.png 22:47, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Evading ban

User:Winrar is the new account of User:Nayru Teh Winrar (an account banned for "troll account solely used for vandalism and personal attacks". User Chieftain Alex Chieftain Signature.jpg Chieftain Alex 21:48, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Good catch. - Tanetris 23:03, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Email needs to be removed from history

This is the page. User DrogoBoffin sig icon.png Drogo Boffin 18:00, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Oh he made a double post so it will be in there a few times. User DrogoBoffin sig icon.png Drogo Boffin 18:01, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Done by Tanetris. pling User Pling sig.png 22:46, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

User talk:Borotvaltgandalf#Dev talk pages

Since Boro's been using devs' talk pages improperly (mainly John Stumme's), I've warned him against posting there at all. If you see him posting, he may need blocking. pling User Pling sig.png 19:33, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Forum Highlands/Map

This is petty, but since the name of the page has "forum" in it, every spam bot goes for it :p Could I please request protection against IP edits on that page? User Chieftain Alex Chieftain Signature.jpg Chieftain Alex 23:52, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

k dun -Auron 00:20, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Recent Changes Spamming

By User:Kuby8388 in three consecutive days while ignoring message at talk page. Block? User Yoshida Keiji Signature.jpg Yoshida Keiji talk 08:46, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

No? -Auron 08:59, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Vandal target in Feedback

Page: Feedback:User/Lord_Marshal/Let people buy HOM items in Gem Shop
History: [3]

Three different people (2 anon, one not) vandalized the above user Feedback page 5 times. Please keep an eye out (e.g. if it gets worse, consider semi-protecting for a day or three). Thanks. – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 22:29, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

FYI Block evasions (suspected)

A blocked user has been suspected of evading their suspension using two different IPs:

  • a few days after the original block (19 May).
    • Confirmed via CheckUser
    • Blocked for 3 months.

No further action required as of this point; the IPs have been blocked and the edits were reviewed/cleaned-up as needed. We hope that this post serves merely as a point of information and does not need to be used in the future. – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 21:52, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Actually one further action was required. Original account ban extended an extra 3 months. - Tanetris 22:24, 2 July 2012 (UTC) was just blocked for 6 months after CheckUser confirmed it was Falconeye evading his block again. --Silver Edge 05:32, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
The latest evasion on 8 July was barely a week after the previous block. This adds up to three attempts in under two months versus an original block duration of three months. – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 07:14, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Revert war on PvP reward

Vandal (talkcontribs (deleted) • logsblock log) has violated GWW:1RR by removing the same piece of information from PvP reward without explanation, even after being asked on his/her talk page to discuss those edits. --Silver Edge 04:12, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

blocked, page looks under control for now. -Auron 11:20, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Dear AbuseFilter

A recent wave of spam includes the phrase, "Not much to write about myself I think" a plain link to the the root URL, and a plain link to some external website (phrased as "here is my site" or "here is my home page"). Do you, dear AbuseFilter, think you can prevent new users from doing something like this? Thank you, kindly. – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 08:37, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

ArenaNet:Guild Wars suggestions/Professions

Is causing to list an unexisting Category:GW Profession suggestions. The page has protection. User Yoshida Keiji Signature.jpg Yoshida Keiji talk 02:57, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Request to lock "Ask an account question"

As discussed on it's talk page and now on the the page itself, it seems time to lock HELP:ACCOUNT so that it points people directly to the official Support Forums. It's been ages since any of us have been able to provide meaningful advice for those with account questions; the forums are much more efficient than we can hope to be.

I therefore ask that the article be semi-protected, so registered users can archive the most recent questions and update the instructions. (And then perhaps we can leave it at that; it's rare that registered users ask a question there.) (PS If people want to discuss other plans, the best place is on the article's talk page.) – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 04:37, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Agreed. That "answers all point to support" comment is like a wake-up call. We've been maintaining that page for so long it's become like routine. -- User Sig.png 07:59, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
The question is whether we even need that page anymore... I'm in favour of deleting it. -- User Sig.png 08:01, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
I prefer that we keep the page so that it directs people to the right resources. Do we need it? It seems that a lot of people come here first and don't know about the forums. (Why that is... dunno.) – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 09:37, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
Added a direct link to the support page on the menu. -- User Sig.png 15:57, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

I don't suppose any of you are looking at the new user list

It looks like someone has figured out a way to get new gibberish accounts past the Abuse Filter. The accounts haven't done anything yet but it's something to look into. Cress Arvein User Cress Arvein sig.JPG 16:17, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

I second this. I've noticed it in the Special:RecentChanges page, and then decided to look at the new user log (Special:Log/newusers). This is getting way out of hand. Of all of the new accounts that have been made since at least 19 August, I would venture that only one seems to be a legitimate page. I realize we can't disable registration, but this requires attention promptly. -«troy.frostwind­» 05:51, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Er... why? The accounts are being created and attempting to edit, but the edits are being stopped by abusefilter. Banning an account that hasn't made an edit is pointless. -Auron 08:32, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
It's more the matter of having a million new accounts being added, without any intention of helping the wiki. I'm not entirely willing to rule out the idea that they're all from the same (or similar) IP addresses, and I feel like even if it doesn't have a bearing on the speed/performance of the wiki, if we have the ability to stop this from happening, it's something we can/should address. «troy.frostwind­» 15:31, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Account creations are being done by a wide range of ips, so it's hard to stop them with just blocks. We'd need a better verification for registration (CATcha?) but that would take resources that Anet just doesn't have now. Since they aren't actually making many edits, it's fine as-is. --JonTheMon 16:32, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Valid point. I hadn't looked at their IP addresses individually, I was just assuming they were related. At the very least, I wanted to make sure that people higher up than me were aware this was happening, which you all do. /cookie «troy.frostwind­» 16:40, 22 August 2012 (UTC)


Vandal Rockstar (talkcontribs (deleted) • logsblock log) is violating the one-revert rule again (was blocked as for revert warring and was blocked for circumventing that block as Rockstar) despite being informed of the one-revert rule on her talk page. On Supportive Spirit, she insists on listing a boss that has the skill for capture (revert #1, #2), even though I had clearly explained in my edit summary why that boss isn't listed. --Silver Edge 09:37, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Warned then blocked by Aberrant after continuing. pling User Pling sig.png 15:45, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Vandal Rockstar (talkcontribs (deleted) • logsblock log) again:
...and now is re-circumventing block once again. User Yoshida Keiji Signature.jpg Yoshida Keiji (talk) 09:05, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
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