Talk:Guide to character creation

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Nice guide. :) Note to self that I plan to add some info about the actual storylines of the campaigns to help people chose which one to start with also. Biscuits 12:34, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Added the info to Storyline instead, and linked from here. Biscuits 18:48, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Contents 1 Numbers In Names 2 Chinese letters 3 Calculations of Appearance Options 4 Height 5 Gender/Sex 6 Pictures of Faces

[edit] Numbers In Names

About 3 months ago i played a GvG with some people, their guild tag was in asian letters so i assume the guild was from their. The odd thing was that every person from that guild had a number in their name. Can someone explain how this happened. -84.68.39.237 14:41, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Probably because the Chinese character set contains numbers that are different to the English character set, and are thus not filtered by the game. Biscuits 15:44, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Chinese letters

Come on this is ******** Japs ans Chinese can use English letter but i cant use Chinese letters on mine American account theres no excuse for that. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:71.98.161.80 (talk).

it's your own decision to install chinese and japanese characters for your keyboard. - Y0_ich_halt 13:18, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

If you have an American or European account, you are only allowed to use English letters for character names. Biscuits 13:55, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Calculations of Appearance Options

I corrected a basic arithmetic mistake in the calculation of the number of female elementalist faces. I've noticed that this also changes the number of different combinations of female elementalist appearances, which I've also corrected. I think this must also change the number of appearance options, which the article currently lists as 237. When I add the numbers across the table up for the elementalist, I get 168, which seems a lot more different than it should have been given my original correction. Furthermore, when I do the same for assassin, I get 45 rather than the article's 58. I'm wondering if maybe there is another variable I'm missing from the calculation of the number of appearance options? Whoever did the original calculations, maybe you can enlighten us how these were originally calculated so we can make the appropriate corrections. Otherwise, maybe someone just needs to totally redo this section? (Satanael 13:14, 18 February 2008 (UTC))

27 + 28 + 36 x 2 + 26 + 28 + 23 x 2 = 237 :) My original table would have made it more obvious. Also, could you check your correction from 38 to 28 in-game? I've deleted all the old screenshots I made and I don't have an empty character slot so I can't double-check. -- ab.er.rant 16:41, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Ah, that makes sense I guess, although with my correction the number would actually be 227, right? Anyway, unfortunately, I don't really have a free character slot either. Could some kind person please help us out to clarify?(Satanael 13:21, 19 February 2008 (UTC))

Sure. :) Fresh from the creation screen:

Female Elementalist	Prophecies	Factions	Nightfall
Hair	9	10	9
Hair Colour	10	10	16
Face	12	8	8
Skin Colour	9	6	8

Biscuits 19:26, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Great, thanks all for the team effort ;-) (Satanael 09:49, 20 February 2008 (UTC))

[edit] Height

Mayhaps there could be a list showing the max and minimum heights in order (Tallest max height to shortest max height, and shortest minimum height to tallest minimum height) I'm just guessing but I think elementalists are tallest? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:207.161.129.173 (talk).

Of course, feel free to compare the relative heights and add them in. -- ab.er.rant 00:56, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

The shortest female elementalist is the same height as the shortest female warrior, so I think warriors and eles are the same height. Monks are definitely among the shortest. --Lentilshine --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:86.152.227.190 (talk).

[edit] Gender/Sex

Why do people keep changing the word sex to gender in this article? Af far as I know, gender is a more grammatical term referring to a group of words, whereas sex implies specifically male/female, which makes it the better choice. My guess is that some people don't like it because of it's "other" meaning. Biscuits 08:38, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Correct. It's the other meaning of the word. In more conservative countries or among more conservative peoples, there's a tendency to use "gender" instead of "sex". Some are just a little uncomfortable with using it. It's a culture thing. -- ab.er.rant 00:34, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pictures of Faces

Would it be useful to create a page which shows all the possible faces for each profession in each chapter? e.g. create a page called something like "Mesmer Appearance" and show a grid of all the Mesmer faces available in Prophecies, Factions, and Nightfall. This would be similar to the Armor Art Gallery. Any reason why this hasn't been added to the wiki? --Luke1138 06:00, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Because no one took screenshots and uploaded them yet :) If you feel up for it, sure, go ahead. Do a page or two and wait to see if anyone reacts. -- ab.er.rant 10:23, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I put up a rough draft here: User:Luke1138/Sandbox Any suggestions or comments? Luke1138 03:24, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Looks good, although I think the four tables at the top would be enough. What's your thought of the different campaigns? I'm thinking it might be more helpful to put the appearances for each profession and sex for all campaigns onto the same gallery page. I'll bring in some more eyes on this. -- ab.er.rant 02:28, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I wasn't clear. That demo was just to get a feel for format. I was trying to figure out if the single screen shot image was better or the face extract was better. The face extract was a real pain. Here's version 2 of the concept using the single screen shot. ---> Character Appearance Demo. I had always intended to have 2 different cuts at the display: 1) by chapter (Prophecies, Factions, Nightfall) and 2) by profession. Take a look at this more built out version and let me know what you think. Note that the actual screenshot images are temporary. I would edit them so that all 4 elements (hair, face, hair color, skin color) were visible all at the same time. More like this picture: Thanks for the feedback so far. --Luke1138 08:15, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Sure, it's an aspect of the game to document. Just go ahead and do it, as long as it gets done properly. Backsword 05:18, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Take a look at the latest mock up and let me know what you think. It's here: Character Appearance Demo. Thanks! --Luke1138 08:15, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

As I mentioned on my talk page, it's probably best to crop the images to show only the faces/hair/etc. instead of the whole screen. A gallery of screens like that makes it necessary to click on each image to be able to see the available options, rather than having all of them visible on the same page for easier browsing. The original sandbox draft is still my preference. -- ab.er.rant 05:13, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Initial gallery has been added. The placement of the info box is awkward - especially with the sample appearance screen and the statistics table. I've tried a couple different places but all a bit too busy. Anyone have suggestions for a cleaner look? Luke1138 07:07, 20 June 2008 (UTC)