Talk:Guild Wars Eye of the North/Archive 2

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Contents 1 EotN skills preview 2 3rd Project? 3 Price? 4 Currency 5 Onlinewelten.com - Eye of the North presentation video: part 1 part 2 6 Collector's Edition? 7 Polish districts 8 Prerelease Bonus Pack 9 New titles? 10 Skills taken from Gw.dat 11 The trailer 12 Day later in Canada? 13 Price cont. 14 Missions 15 Soundtrack?!? 16 Box contents 17 The (Updated) Tyrian Map 18 Content list of GW:EN retail package 19 Map? Map of what? 20 Guild halls 21 6 years after Prophecies? 22 How old does that make gwen now? Is she old enough to fight? 23 GW:EN Bear Edition 24 Trailer 25 Magma Hands and Assassin Mask 26 Other Norn heroes? 27 GW:EN Official Demo Overview 28 Charr Homeland? 29 Some observations from the high-def video on gametrailers 30 Far Shiverpeaks first?? 31 Pricing Policy 32 GW:EN English Manual 33 GW:EN Cast 34 Getting to GWEN 35 Missions? 36 Characters that can get there..... 37 My computer keeps crashing on Gwen 38 i have heoroes and lots of random nighfall stuff. 39 Elite skills 40 In Review 41 exact time of in-game store availability? 42 storage 43 -image 44 Acts? 45 hardmode?? 46 access quests

EotN skills preview

Short version of the story, apparently the guys that are in the ATS testing event can see some EotN skills. They are under no NDA, before anyone asks, not that it matters much anyways.

MESMER @ 6 fast cast 12 illusion 11 inspiration
Aneurysm 10e 1c 20r - Spell. Target foe regains all Energy. For each point of energy gained in this way, that foe takes 1 damage. Dom Magic
Power Lock 10e 1/4c 15r - Spell. If target is casting a Spell, that Spell is interrupted and disabled for an additional 1 second. Dom Magic
Signet of Distraction 1/4c 20r - Signet. If target foe is casting a Spell, that Spell is interrupted and disabled for 1 second for each signet you have equipped. Dom Magic
Calculated Risk 10e 2c 10r - Hex Spell. For 17 seconds, target foe has 50% chance to miss with attacks but does +10 damage. Inadequacy 10e 1c 8r - Hex Spell. For 9 seconds, the next time target foe attacks, that attack is interrupted nad all nearby foes take 46 damage.
Illusion Magic
Logic Bomb 10e 1c 10r - Hex Spell. For 10 seconds, target foe suffers from -3 health degeneration. When this Hex ends that foe has Cracked Armor for 17 seconds. Illusion Magic
Sum of All Fears 10e 2c 20r - Hex Spell. For 25 seconds, target foe moves, attacks, and casts Spells 20% slower. Illusion Magic
Signet of Recall 1c 20r - Signet. You lose all Energy. For 10 seconds, you have -4 energy regeneration. When this effect ends, you gain 12 Energy. Inspiration Magic.
Wastrel's Feast 5e 1/4c 20r - Spell. If target foe is not casting a spell or attacking you gain 12 energy. Inspiration Magic

NECROMANCER @ 11 blood 6 soul reaping 12 curses
Masochism 5e 1c 10r - Spell. Steal 16 health from target foe for each Condition you are suffering from (maximum 60). Blood Magic
Cacophany 10e 2c 15r - Hex Spell. For 17 seconds, whenever target foe uses a shout or Chant, that foe takes 119 damage. Curses
Entropy's Grasp 5e 1c 3r - Enchantment Spell. For 5 seconds, target ally's attacks cause Weakness for 5 seconds. Death Magic
Putrid Bile 10e 1c 12r - Hex Spell. For 5 seconds target foe suffers -1 health degenration. If that foe dies while under the effect of this Hex, all nearby foes take 25 damage. Death Magic

MONK @ 12 healing 12 divine
Balthazar's Signet 1c 20r - Signet. Target foe takes 10 holy damage. If that foe was attacking you gain 1 energy. Smiting Prayers
Purifying Veil -1regen(maintained) 5e 1c 8r - Enchantment Spell. While you maintain this Enchantment, Conditions expire 25% faster on target ally. When this Enchantment ends, one Condition is removed from that ally. Smiting Prayers
Smite Condition 5e 1c 8r - Spell. Remove one Condition from target ally. If a Condition was removed. Foes in the area take 5 damage. Smiting Prayers
Cure Hex 10e 1c 12r - Spell. Remove one Hex from target ally. If a Hex was removed that ally is healed for 102 Health. Healing Prayers

ASSASSIN @ 12 dagger, 12 crit, 2 deadly
Lotus Strike 10e 12r - Off-Hand Attack. Must follow a lead attack. If it hits, this attack strikes for +22 damage and you gain 17 energy. Dagger Mastery
Assassin's Thirst 5e 8r - Dual Attack. Must follow an off-hand attack. If this attack hits, you steal 14 Health. Deadly Arts
Misery Signet 1c 8r - Signet. You gain 14 health for each Condition on target foe. Deadly Arts
Shadow's Embrace 10e 1/4c 45r - Hex Spell. Shadow step to target foe. For 10 seconds, this Hex does nothing. When this Hex ends, you return to your original location and that foe suffers a Deep Wound for 7 seconds. Deadly Arts.

RANGER @ 0 marks 6 beast
Rapid Fire 10e 2c 12r - Preparation. For 3 seconds, you attack 25% faster. Marksmanship

ELEMENTALIST @ 0 attributes
Glyph of Swiftness 5e 1c 10r - Glyph. For 15 seconds, projectiles from your next 2 Spells moves 66% faster.
Winter's Embrace 5e 1/4c 10r - Hex Spell. For 4 seconds, you and target touched foe move 66% slower. Water Magic
Glyph of Immolation 5e 1c 10r - Glyph. For 15 seconds, your next 3 spells that target a foe also cause burning for 3 seconds. Fire Magic (note this is listed as fire magic despite the fact none of the numbers scale with fire attribute)
Grasping Flames 10e 2c 15r - Hex Spell. For 5 seconds, target foe moves 66% slower while Burning. Earth Magic.
Ward of Weariness 10e 2c 20r - Ward Spell. You create a Ward of Weariness at your current location. For 5 seconds, foes within that location become Weakened for 5 seconds whenever they take elemental damage. Earth Magic
Shell Shock 10e 1c 10r - Spell. Target foe takes 10 damage and has Cracked Armor for 5 seconds. Air Magic

RITUALIST
Pure Was Li Ming 10e 1c 30r - Item Spell. Hold Li Ming's ashes for 5 seconds. Whilst you hold her ashes, Conditions on you expire 10% faster. When you drop her ashes all allies within earshot lose 1 Condition. Restoration Magic
Energetic Was Lee Sa 10e 2c 30r - Item Spell. Hold Lee Sa's ashes for 5 seconds. while you hold her ashes, you gain +1 energy regeneration. WHen you drop her ashes, you gain +1 energy. Spawning Power --Dirigible 15:00, 7 April 2007 (EDT)

You do not have permission to post non-released info from a beta test server onto a public website. They assume in good faith that you won't run your mouth off, so don't. Also, I believe that when you accept the ToS when using the beta server, that there is an entire clause on secrecy. You risk losing your beta account. - DяấĢő

Do NOT remove that comment again, Drago. It's perfectly within all of this wiki's policies, so just don't do it. That decision is not up to you. --Dirigible 15:14, 7 April 2007 (EDT)

There's no NDA, and it's not like ANet are shutting people out. If an ATS tester could get their hands on icons, they could even make pages for the skills! --Santax 15:33, 7 April 2007 (EDT)

Did you read the entire EULA when you activated your test account, things discussed concerning upcoming campaigns is not to be released. It's not your information. It's confidential. Show me where a dev has given you permission to produce skill previews. - DяấĢő 15:46, 7 April 2007 (EDT)

I never even said that I am in the beta testing, Drago, so don't put words in my mouth. Which means that this info may very well be false and just a rumour for all we know, which is also the reason that I posted this on a talk page, and not in the main article. Because without proof, it's pretty much just speculation. Correct? And if we remove this speculation, we'd have to remove the comment that some guy might leave tomorrow about GuildWars2 happening on Mars and featuring laser guns. Guild Wars Wiki:No alpha leaks failed to become official policy on this wiki for a reason, Drago. --Dirigible 16:20, 7 April 2007 (EDT)

OK the skills were not posted at full (12-16) attribute level, but 99% of them sound like total crap. Especially wondered about the once mentioned useful PvE skills for mesmers, I see none. --Longasc 10:42, 8 April 2007 (EDT)

I like most of them - the Elementalist spells are amazing. The "once mentioned useful skills for mesmers" were never mentioned as being a GW:EN feature - they are something Arena Net is looking at now, not half an year from now. Erasculio 13:15, 8 April 2007 (EDT)

They could be new skills added with Hard Mode, Eye of the North skills, changes to existing Core, Prophecies, Factions and Nightfall skills that mainly or exclusively affect PvE (such as adding some adjacent damage to Backfire or making certain skills have additional effects against bosses) or all of the above. -- Gordon Ecker 19:51, 8 April 2007 (EDT)

Longasc, you think they sound like total crap because you yourself are a crappy player. If you do not see the usefulness of some of those skills, you should uninstall guild wars. --Omigawa 06:29, 12 April 2007 (EDT)

Guys, 2 things to add here. Number 1: It's perfectly fine to post these skills. The beta testers never agreed to any sort of NDA, and A.net has said many times during the beta that we're free to take pictures and talk about the beta. Number 2: It was also said that these skills are preliminary to the point of uselessness. It's almost garaunteed that every one of these skills will be changed signifigantly for release. Marin Alacet 20:12, 8 April 2007 (EDT)

Agreed. 74.108.248.112 23:40, 10 April 2007 (EDT)

I really hope they change Signet of Recaal, currently it's just total shit. Are you sure that's whit 11 Inspiration, not whit 1? Now it costs more than you gain at the end. Sir Bertrand 13:23, 13 April 2007 (EDT)

Signet of Recall seems completeley useless. Losing all of your energy and having -4 degend isn't worth 12 mana. Also, it's a known fact, No one reads the TOSs or EULAs :3 68.193.113.198

Signet of Recall would be ok if there wasn't the -4 energy degen, That means you would have no energy and not get energy for 10 sec. and then you would get 12. There is a mistake somewhere in the posting. Natalie Black 7:21, 8 July 2007 (CST)

If the degeneration decreases with higher Inspiration Magic or there's some new Mesmer skill that takes advantage of having less energy than your target, it could be decent, otherwise it's an inferior knockoff of Ether Lord. -- Gordon Ecker 21:45, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

100 new profession-specific skills (10 per profession, none of which are elite) No Elites can this be confirmed MisterGrim 18:53, 2 August 2007 (UTC) MisterGrim

I can't find the quote, but Izzy has confirmed that there are no new Elites in Eye of the North (although, from the context), although, from the context, it's possible that he meant there are no new elites among the 100 skills which can be used in both PvP and PvE, with the possibility of elite PvE-only skills remaining open. -- Gordon Ecker 00:00, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

3rd Project?

3rd project behind GW:EN and GW2? Could someone please post the source of this? It sounds really interesting I would really like to know more about it.--Alien 19:25, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Gaile Grey on the incgamers forum. -- Gordon Ecker 19:39, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! --Alien 19:40, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

I sure hope something else comes out between GW:EN and GW2... that is a long wait time inbetween if GW2 doesn't come out until 2009 or 2010! We want our GW ya know? hehe Foxysheri 04:14, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

The project is almost certainly the Bonus Mission Pack announced today. -- Gordon Ecker 04:39, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Or possibly a framework that would allow these types of packs. -- ab.er.rant 06:03, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

I agree it most likely is this bonus pack, but I can't quite understand the article. it says: The Guild Wars Mission Pack is not transferable and will only be available to the exact account that fulfills this promotion. does this mean that only the people who recieve the promotion can get the full version? Also if anyone does get this promotion pack please post some information about what kind of things you can do and how it works, :) like do you play as your current character or do you play as characters back in these times, such as turai ossa and gwen. :P --Alien 20:29, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

I believe it's just a legal disclaimer stating that the bonus pack is automatically and permanently attached to the account with which you make the purchases, just like everything else from the online store, and cannot be transferred from one account to another, and that you can't get the free stuff from the promotion unless you actually meet all the requirements for the promotion. -- Gordon Ecker 21:46, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

And as for how it plays, you can rest assured that 4 months later, you'll be able to read the mission articles on this wiki. -- ab.er.rant 05:04, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

ok :D thanks for cleaning that up for me :)--Alien 11:50, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

I thought the bonus mission pack was the third thing but in this post I am thingking they may have more secrets still. Inc Gamers Forum If you read the Collectors Edditon bullet piont she says "We feel that because GW:EN is an expansion pack, and because we have other projects (some yet unannounced) in the works, we do not want to stretch ourselves too thin by taking on too many projects." When she says "some yet unannounced" and the post was on July 10, 19:26 (CST) then there must be more secrets still. The Bonus Mission Pack news has been out for awhile now.--Natalie Black 5:10, 11 July 2007 (CST)

Price?

I'd think pricing would be something that's dynamic enough it doesn't belong on a mainspace wiki page. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 21:54, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Well why not? Maybe some people could be checking this page because they're curious of the price and this seems like the place to have it. It's not like it takes up alot of space either, right? Just a small section at the bottom in which there would be like 3 currencies really, Canadian, American and Euro.--§ Eloc § 21:57, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Price is something that can vary alot from each retailer, especially if they have special offers and such. And I don't see how knowing the price in Canada benefits the community. If we list Canada, we should really list any possible country. That would take up space. - anja 22:05, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

The other reason pricing shouldn't be on the main article is because it is advertising 1 retailer over another, 1 reason why we removed the articles to EBGames before. -- Scourge 00:01, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Well not every country. It would just be countries that speak English which would be like Canada, USA, some of Europe and that's about all.--§ Eloc § 00:12, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

All this is ignoring the primary reason I already specified above: content like pricing is so subject to change, not to mention being from many difference sources, is not something that belongs on a wiki page which is designed for reference purposes. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 00:17, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Couldn't it stay there until GW:EN comes out? The price is not likely to change while it's not even out yet.--§ Eloc § 00:52, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

What's the point of only listing the price until you can actually buy it? Not to mention the numerous other arguments against it: favoring one source over another (you may not realize it, but there are many different retailers who carry Guild Wars), needing to represent all places of purchase equally, currency conversions, et cetera. There's simply very little reason to have it on the page, and quite a lot of reason not to have it. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 01:43, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I strongly oppose having the prices on here for reasons to do with why we do not list prices for in game items. Also I expect it may be an even greater issue. This is an official site of anet and the retailers themselves may have problems with them showing who is cheapest to buy from. There are no prices on GW.com and probably for good reason. I have to agree with Aiiane here, it is a possibly quite controversial, and a lot simpler to just not "go there" as such. --Lemming64 01:51, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

First off, from a wiki perspective, putting down the price is pointless. There's just too many retailers in too many countries for it to be accurate or definitive. As Lemming64 said, even Anet does not list the retail price. Why? Because it's up to the retailers on how much profit they want to sell it for.

Secondly, Eloc, I'm offended that you would actually type it out that only ppl in Canada, the US, and some of Europe actually speak English. Do you know that there are quite a few active contributors and users of this wiki who are from countries not even close to those you mentioned? Did you know that people in quite a few countries in Asia always join US servers for online games because we don't understand Japanese and Korean? And you even left out Australia, a primarily English-speaking country. I think you probably do realise that people in other parts of the world speak English; you just didn't bother to be thoughtful about the words you chose to use. -- ab.er.rant 02:05, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I did miss Australia and thought about it after I typed it all out. As for Asia, in my own eyes, most of it is fairly poor and I find that there's mainly one language there, Mandarin, or however you spell it. We all know it as Chinese. But besides that, I don't consider a whole lot of people in Asia speaking English. Those were also the first 3 areas that popped up into my head. I'm not gonna take like 10 minutes writing out every country that speaks English because English is the 3rd largest language in the world which means people from every country must be speaking English in every country.--§ Eloc § 02:10, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Like I said, I know you realise that other people speak English. The part that really irked me is this: "and that's about all". That phrase, I find particularly insensitive. It's like saying they're not important and there's no point considering them. And you just contradicted yourself. First you said most of Asia don't speak English... then you said people "people from every country must be speaking English in every country".... but doesn't matter. I'd just like you to know that sometimes, a little phrase implies a lot. And PS: you're wrong about it being Mandarin or even all the Chinese dialects (that's mostly just the Chinese). There are many more languages used in Asia. -- ab.er.rant 02:32, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I said that English is a minority in Asia and odds are someone is speaking one of the 6 largest languages atleast somewhere in the world. As for Mandarin, it's the world's largest language, with 873 million people speaking it. This language is centered around Asia, so I consider it the language that's most largely used in Asia. I do realize that there are alot more languages in Asia. Some that come to mind right away are Mandarin, Japanese, Korean, and Russian.--§ Eloc § 02:49, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Eloc, Asia is a huge place, you shouldn't generalise an entire area. Mandarin is mainly spoken in the People's Republic of China, there are still heaps of other locations inside Asia other than just China: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asia -- Scourge 03:40, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Well not my fault Aberrant has to complicate everything. Like who cares if he is offended. He should just keep that to himself. All I did was try to contribute and he went and had to complain for something as fucking little as that.--§ Eloc § 03:45, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I think we've gotten rather off topic - if you'd like to continue this discussion, why don't you take it to user talk? (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 03:47, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Or everyone just STFU as of now.--§ Eloc § 03:49, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I suppose it won't help much, but I should point out that a few people here need to keep GWW:NPA in mind. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 03:51, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

"Racial, sexual, homophobic, ageist, religious, political, or ethnic epithets directed against another contributor. Disagreement over what constitutes a religion, race, sexual preference, or ethnicity is not a legitimate excuse.

• Using someone's affiliations as a means of dismissing or discrediting their views — regardless of whether said affiliations are mainstream or extreme.
• Threats of legal action.
• Threats of physical violence, particularly death threats.
• Threats of vandalism to userpages or talk pages.
• Threats to interfere with the usual operation of a user's computer.
• Threats or actions which expose other contributors to political, religious or other persecution by government, their employer or any others.
• Posting a link to an external source that fits the commonly accepted threshold for a personal attack, in a manner that incorporates the substance of that attack into discussion, including the suggestion that such a link applies to another editor, or that another editor needs to visit the external source containing the substance of the attack.

Revealing or threatening to reveal personal information about another contributor."
I don't see any of these that I've broken--§ Eloc § 03:55, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

The comment was not necessarily directed at anyone in particular. However, I was more referring to later sections of the article. That's all I'm going to say here, as this is heated enough, but if you'd like to converse further, my talk page is always open. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 03:57, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

"Additionally, editors are strongly discouraged from using profanity in comments to other contributors. These examples are not inclusive. Insulting or disparaging an editor is a personal attack regardless of the manner in which it is done." - BeX 04:00, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Bex got to the post before me ... please, everyone take a moment on other tasks to relax (either on or off wiki), and if you feel more that is relevant to Guild Wars Eye of the North, then post here. If you have comments related to the discussion above, please take it to user talk pages, as it doesn't appear to be directly relevant to this article at this point. But, if you do take it to user talk pages, please continue to remember the GWW:NPA line quoted by Bex. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 04:08, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Blocked for a day. I will not let him get away with "Asia is poor and mandarin" as if that's some how a "flaw" in Asians or make them less important to consider. --Karlos 19:23, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Currency

Well here's something. The online store royally screws Australians who want the Bonus Missions because they want to charge us in British Pounds, which of course has nothing to do with us because we're on the other side of the world. Partly because of the crappy exchange rate, they'll be charging us all at least AU$8 more than what we would pay at EB, and receive less due to no box or paper stuff.

Now, since I'm in the US at the moment. I could buy it retail here and end up paying AU$4 less than what I'd pay at EB. Support tickets get us a whole load of BS about how it can't be changed and it was automatic when we bought our game at the retailer. However, no one ever stipulated that we'd have to pay in pounds from then on whilst online. How the heck did they decide to automatically make us pay in Pounds? A totally unrelated currency from a place halfway around the world? At least American Dollars are easy to convert and use.

Why can't the online store offer us different currencies to pay in like most other online shops? If Anet really believe they are in the service industry, they better pick up their game. Sirocco 04:37, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Well, it's not completey unrelated, seeing as we are a part of the British Commonwealth, but I would definitely prefer to be paying in US dollars. Am I correct in assuming if I had bought the imported US copies of the game online rather than waiting for Australia to get a supplier, I would be purchasing in US dollars? (Initially Guild Wars wasn't released here and the only way to play was to buy the imported US copies). It's all really annoying. If we buy the game from EB, it is highly doubtful we will get our pre-order packages early if at all (when we pre-ordered the Factions CE, we didn't get our pre-order packages at all because EB games gave them out to people who had bought the normal version while we were waiting for Australia to get more CEs in - remember the shortage?). - BeX 05:05, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

My Collectors Edition of Nightfall didn't come with the Pre-release Bonus back, I had to drive to another store and get it, even then they said they didn't have any "in stock" didn't stop me getting one though lol -- Scourge 05:09, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Wasn't supposed to come with Pre-release bonus pack. You were supposed to buy that wayy before Nightfall came out.--§ Eloc § 05:21, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Things work differently here. We were lucky enough to be buying from a branch that was giving them out when you put down your deposit. Other Australians had to pay for them, or didn't get given them until they got the game. - BeX 05:26, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

As BeXoR said, the only option for the stores I went to was to wait until the game came out even though I had my copy preorderded for a few weeks. -- Scourge 05:31, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

On another note, I imagine anyone who has preordered EOTN at EBGames in Australia will never see any type of bonus materials with their game without ringing up the HQ in Queensland first. -- Scourge 05:33, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

EB Games Australia definitely scares me. I'm considering buying from the in-game store because they are so unreliable. I really want the boxes and documentation though. :( When my boyf pre-ordered the director's cut of FEAR they gave away all the bonus content to regular customers and he totally missed out. Sometimes it's just ridiculous. - BeX 05:36, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I enjoy reading through the art books, so buying online is going to be a kick in the pants as they say. -- Scourge 05:45, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Does the online store not charge you in the currency of the server you are on? So even if you live in England for example, but play on the US servers you will get the US version of the online store. I would therefore suppose that the reason that Sirocco is being charged in GBP is because you are playing on the Euro servers and have the language set to english? This is just a hypothesis currently and I have nothing to back it up :) --Lemming64 11:50, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I play on Euro in English districts and is charged in Euro, not pounds. So they have some weird ways of telling who pays in what currency then :P - anja 12:04, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

The reason I bring it up is I live in the UK and I used to be on the US servers, and I bought a char slot while I was on there, could have sworn I was charged in dollars. But now I am back on the Euro ones and don't want to use up two switches to check! --Lemming64 12:27, 12 July 2007 (UTC) Actually scratch that, found the email receipt and I was charged in GBP so that theory is out the window. --Lemming64 12:28, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm in Canada but they charge me USD. No suprise there but meh.--§ Eloc § 15:51, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

(reset) I got word from other people that changing district doesn't affect your billing. Apparently, it's tied to your account when you linked it to the store. For me, that's f*ing ridiculous cause I'm Australian. Not British. So it makes no sense whatsoever. American Dollars and Euros aren't so bad. But Pounds? -_- Sirocco 18:35, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Split the topic, since it's not really related to the first anymore. And I think it's bad they automatically set a currency for you and not give you options for that. Here, lots of banks charge extra if we pay in this or that currency with our credit cards, luckily I got euro, so that's not too much extra charge. Maybe we should instead make this a support issue, if lots of people send in tickets about the currency problem, that would make them aware it is a problem :) - anja 18:55, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I started out GW in Europe but then moved to the American server to find better pings, my store is still in Pounds though even though I've changed to the American servers. -- Scourge 01:15, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Well, as it turns out. Sending a support ticket is worthless cause they can't help. Asking Gaile was worthless too, because she can't talk to NCSoft. So I guess us Aussies are screwed and there's no way around it. gg ANet. Sirocco 17:52, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

What I don't get is A-Net has been very good to its customers with GW, (at least that's how I felt) up till now. This Bonus Mission Pack has caused a lot of trouble for many people because a) difficult to access for some people, b) you won't get your box/manual/map etc, c) have to buy online, d) you don't choose your currency. Sure you don't need to "buy" the bonus missions but if you are paying just as much as somone else for the same product just you go to the store and not online, you get less in-game content and the missions seem really exciting to me which I don't want to miss out on. I'm not sure why A-Net forced this ultimatium on it's customers but it doesn't seem very rewarding to me. The joy of the bonus missions will be tainted by the loss of the box/manual/map/etc and the knowledge that A-Net chose it to be that way. Ironic in the Guru thread Gaile Gray said she had cleaned her house and thought the boxes/cd's/etc caused a lot of clutter yet on here she said she hoped someone would send her the box with the Bear and Jora on it from European release to add to her shrine. I guess she might appreciate the loss some players will feel with this box. Dancing Gnome 20:52, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Onlinewelten.com - Eye of the North presentation video: part 1 part 2

i would say only 1 word: WOOOOOOW! --Gret 07:34, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Collector's Edition?

According to Bol.com there is going to be a CE for EotN, I thought there were no plans on a CE? Sirrush 16:18, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Unless it comes from ANet, don't believe everything you read. ANet says no CE, so there won't be a CE Dargon 07:22, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Polish districts

I think i remember seeing on Gaile's page or on the Gaile/Frog talk that Polish districts arent "likely to be released with GW:EN" as it says on this page. brains12 16:43, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Actually they are in Guild Wars - go International district and you will see PL & RUS distr...--Grethort 08:02, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Well they are now, i wrote that message yesterday, before the update brains12 (talk) 14:57, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Reflex ftw! xD --Grethort 17:01, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Prerelease Bonus Pack

It will head the stores at 20 July! At the same day that the winners of the European Return to Tyria Sweepstakes will be announced! Woo! But i am really curious about the price of it.. does anyone know? the source of all this is on the official sites. -- Mepp 19:33, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm expecting it to be quite cheap... The Prerelease packs for Factions & Nightfall were only £2 (UK) so hopefully it will be the same :) -- Indochine talk 17:34, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

New titles?

ANet has stated that there will be "numerous (...) titles" in GWEN. I am very, very curious about that - what types of titles can we expect? Certainly there will be titles basing on clearing the dungeons (something like "Protector" series present in all 3 stand-alone campaigns) and gathering Reputation among all 4 races (Dwarves, Asura, Norn and Ebon Vanguard). Anything else...?

I'd love to see two new titles' series:

1. Basing on completing quests ("normal" ones, event quests wouldn't count) in all 3 campaigns. Not every player wants to complete hundreds (?) of the side-quests - players that do so could be awarded (by getting the special titles).

2. Basing on gathering XP. There are some players that focus on using only one or two character(-s)... Characters that are used for completing whole campaigns, quests, fighting, farming, capturing skills, collecting character-based titles and so on. Because of this, these characters are packed with large amounts of XP (for instance: my main character, who is in the middle of GWN now, has got around 1.800.000 XP - and there is no way to show that I have played much, much more than somebody that has just reached lvl 20*). 20 remains the level cap in GW1 and it's OK for me, but I think that there should be possibility to show how eXPerienced we are (without any additional effects, just "4fun")!

How do you find it? Dear Gaile :) ?

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• Of course, there are many other titles that indicate my achievements - Protectors, Cartographers etc., but (IMO) there is a lack of the simplest, most basic title...

MonkOfWar 17:07, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Title for farmers, koreans and leavers? I say "no"! --Grethort 05:15, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

"Farmers, Koreans and leavers"? Not at all... Look:

1. "Farmers" - so what about the following titles: "Survivor" (it's almost impossible to get a high rank without special, safe XP farming), "Wisdom" (people buy "gold unids" for around 1k/item in order to get a high rank; how do they get large amounts of money for it? especially from farming, of course), "Drunkard", "Sweet tooth" (the same thing - they buy loads of alcohol/sweets), "Defender of Ascalon" (the most farm-requiring title ever :) ) and higher ranks in "Lightbringer"/"Sunpsear"? Of course, "XP-title" would be the most interesting for farmers, but... you can say it about every title mentioned above.

2. "Koreans" - every title requires some time to be acquired, so it doesn't make any difference. A lot of time involved = high rank in ANY title, not only XP-based one.

3. "Leavers" - errrm? If you are a leaver, you don't get XP for completing particular mission (we're not talking about PvP, as XP amounts collected there are too small to count). If you are a PvE leaver, it just irritates your team-mates, but, in fact, usually doesn't give you any in-game benefits (except earning some XP before leaving or completing only a part of the quest that you were interested in completing, hm). Haven't you had "leecher" on your mind? However - leechers can gain benefits from completing missions/quests (completed by their team-mates), but they don't get XP from killing monsters, as they stay out of range. Anyway - leavers/leechers wouldn't get this title as fast, as any "normal" player would. MonkOfWar 09:15, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

That's a weird response Gret... farmers don't do quests in case you didn't realise. They uh... farm... not do quests. Do you have something against Koreans? What kinda evidence are you basing on to suggest that Koreans have the most XP or do the most quests? Leavers? Like MonkOfWar, I also do not understand how people earn titles by "leaving"... -- ab.er.rant 14:03, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Yay! More titles! BTW, I resent the Survivor comment, as it is possible to get to Survivor (3) rank by doing quests and missions. Otherwise, yes, titles tend to reward those who spend time & effort getting them. I'd like more skill-based titles, like the Protector series & the hard mode ones, but farming ones are OK too as long as they are reasonable maxable. Alaris 14:37, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

I dont think your idea on XP titles is that good. im afraid its gonna bring the rank discrimination from HA and PvP areas into the PvE realms and all of a sudden you will never be able to get into a PuG cause your new characters XP rank is too low. sorta like what happened in DoA with the lightbringer title. other than that i really love the idea with quest completion as it actually requires a lot of time and efford to do them very much like explorer, vanquisher, guardian and protector :P Quest Master title ftw! -ArcticWind 18:02, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

I agree about the rank discrimination with regards to XP-based titles, however, something I like to see is a slight alternation to the way the game announces your character levels up -- instead of simply announcing char has gained a skill point to also include the number of skill points earned.--DaveBaggins 15:00, July 30 2007 (CST)

Skills taken from Gw.dat

In some of the GW fanforums, players have mentioned how they were able to extract what appear to be GW:EN skill names from the gw.dat file. Should we display this information (the skill names) here on the talk page? Or would that be considered leaking material, hacking or whatever? Erasculio 14:42, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Why not just provide a link here? (so I can take a look too :P) -- ab.er.rant 15:15, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Fine : D I just heard of something else along the same lines. Here is the link with the skill list. And here is what appears to be GW:EN armors extracted through the same gw.dat file. In both (although more on the second), posters have stated that they those are fakes, but... Erasculio 15:25, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Woot! I can't wait to try those mini-games! -- ab.er.rant 15:34, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Nice, :) cant understand why people dont like these new armors, they look great! :D (that is if they aren't fake, which I doubt). Good job Anet! =] --Alien 15:50, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

It's interesting that, although at least one Asura golem summoning skill has been confirmed, none of the Asura skill names mention golems. I suspect that the three Asura summoning skills from the thread are golem summoning skills which summon golems based on Naga Shaman, Ruby Djinn and Mursaat. -- Gordon Ecker 23:40, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

It seems that the armour post has been deleted, anyone know where I can find the pictures of the armour? -- Scourge 01:44, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Bump! on the (broken?) armor link statusMan of Steel 17:52, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

It's been deleted, several other threads mention it. A shame... --Valentein 17:59, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

The trailer

I have two comments. First, who's that statue guy with the winged helmet, sword and tattoos? Second, I hope that kid with a spear isn't the Paragon hero. -- Gordon Ecker 23:20, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Also, is that a giant Lemarchand box? -- Gordon Ecker 02:03, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Day later in Canada?

Right at the top, it states GW:EN will be released August 31st, September 1st in Canada. Can I get a source for this?

Proph, Factions, and Nightfall came out simoutaniously with the rest of America here in Canada, and I see no reason why GW:EN should be different. On top of that, Best Buy told me that I can pick up my copy on the 31st of August. Marin Alacet 17:57, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

According to the FAQ, it's the same date worldwide.. Sounds odd it would release one day later in Canada. - anja 18:01, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

I've removed the comment about it being released a day later in Canada from the article. If Arena.net, as well as the stores who will be selling GW:EN, says release is on the 31st, I'm willing to bet it's on the 31st. If it is a day later, just put it back in. Marin Alacet 18:08, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

It's per place. Some stores take release date as ship date, hence its always one more day. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:24.190.54.20 .

So it's the store's problem then. No problem with the release date. -- ab.er.rant 09:34, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Price cont.

This page lists the price of the game as US$39.99 or 34.99 euro. How much is it going to cost in GBP? There is a big difference between those two prices at the moment, and with the exchange rate and credit card fees, if it's leaning towards the euro price, it will actually end up cheaper for me to go and buy the game from EB. I might not get the mission pack, but I'll get all the things that come with the game instead. - BeX 04:32, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

It looks like it will be GBP 24.99 (AUD$55). If we were able to pay in USD if would be AUD$45. If we paid in euro it would be AUD$55 also. If we buy the game in store from EB it's AUD$50, and with that we get the map and other bits and pieces. What benefit is there for us to buy it from the in-game store? We pay more and get less. - BeX 15:52, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

I think that's a losing battle. The bonus mission pack will be released the way it's being released now. I think I read somewhere A-Net intended it to be a kind of test run for possible future add ons to the game, and judgeing by the upset it caused in the forums and the MANY complications and dramas we've seen them dealing with over this it looks to me like a failure, at least image wise. A lot of people will probably buy GW:EN from the online store just to get the bonus mission pack though, so financially it might be a success and they will continue to do things like this. Hopefully next time they will just let you buy any future bonus mission packs instead of jumping through hoops. I doubt the currency problem will ever change. Dancing Gnome 21:00, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Missions

I've noticed that the mission count has been omitted from the Eye of the North feature list. Does this seem odd to anyone else? -- Gordon Ecker 06:00, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

hmm it does seem a bit strange your right. maybe GW:EN will jut be a long line of primary quests instead of missions. --Alien 11:41, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

A long line of mini-missions perhaps. Which should be unlikely because if there are no missions, then that kinda implies no Protector and Guardian as well? -- ab.er.rant 04:48, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

I wouldn't mind as long as they're repeatable dungeon mini-missions instead of those non-repeatable mini-missions. What I suspect is that there are missions, but the mission count is really low because they invested their zots in dungeons. -- Gordon Ecker 05:32, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

When they say 18 multi-level dungeons, I wonder if it's 18 different explorables areas like one oversized DoA type or 18 different superexplorables.... that would be one helluva PvE exploration fest. But hmm.... since it's all underground... I hope there's still a cartography title for it (not that I managed to get any 100% cartographer yet... :P ) -- ab.er.rant 05:49, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Soundtrack?!?

Sooo... Anyone heard word of how we will be able to get the soundtrack on a CD? I love the GWEN Theme, and would love to have the soundtrack on CD, like with all 3 campaigns. -WNxZexion 21:14, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

DirectSong may release it, which you can burn on to a CD. -- Indochine talk 09:41, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

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Box contents

The box contents listed on the Gaile News page. I think it would be a good idea to include that here. I'd do it myself but I've got to go in sec. - BeX 00:40, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Copied the information over, looks a little empty --Gummy Joe 20:16, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Gummy. Yeah there's not much in it is there. I still would like the DVD and map though for reinstalls, etc. - BeX 04:02, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

I just want the map and manual, even if it's just to put them on a shelf. It's at least something to look at that doesn't require me to be online and logged in. I probably have to choose between an actual box on my shelf or the bonus missions pack. -- ab.er.rant 04:47, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Yer that sucks, I wish they offered the bonus mission pack with the store bought game so I can have both. Or an option to pay more online to have the box shipped out to you. Dancing Gnome 20:40, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Wow I went through the history of this page because its on my watch and Dancing Gnome... wow man if you really are that negative about GW:EN why bother buying it? While I agree with your points about buying from the store vs in game, just.. relax a bit. -elviondale (tahlk) 23:51, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

W00t W00t, DirectSong is now featuring GW:EN music!!! --trekie9001 • tlk • 18:46, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Someone got a link to a torrent? I mean.. uh.. so I can report it. -elviondale (tahlk) 19:30, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

The (Updated) Tyrian Map

The Tyrian map that has been added appears to include cleared area's of the new game.I wonder if that is all the area's? It doesn't seem like many. The island in the top left corner for example - I was certain that would be used. Hopefully that's just a shot of the map in the early stages of the game (The Tyrian map is very large however, so maybe it's just a optical illusion). --Jingomania 09:17, 23 July 2007 (UTC) Scrub this: I was obviously having a brain explosion - OF COURSE the majority of the game will be under ground.--Jingomania 09:24, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Probably that's all the areas there will be, above ground. We will have dungeons and stuff, and I guess most of the game will be under ground, which can't be seen on the map :) - anja 09:19, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

I know it's an expansion and not a campaign so we pay less, but they said they had more time to work on end game content because they didn't recreate a beginner area. I thought this would mean we would get MORE level 20 areas than we had in previous games. I looked at the explored map on the wiki and the Charr area looks very small (about 1/3 the size of the Norn area), I hope it is bigger once released as I am most excited to be seeing the Charr homelands. I was hoping the Charr homeland would have been it's own Campaign but that won't happen now :P. Dancing Gnome 20:39, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Content list of GW:EN retail package

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Just an idea, is there any chance so people who buy GW:EN online can actually download the GW:EN map as a .pdf from wiki or guildwars.com? People who bought several slots online, might want to buy GW:EN and the prerelease bonus pack online in the gw-store. But they will miss out on a very nice map, which is a nice asset for a true fan.. Just an idea ;-) -- (Tribina / talk) 20:48, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

How would a digital copy of the map even remotely come close to being compared to a real physical map? And if they choose to release the map in digital format, pretty soon it'd be easily located and downloaded (legally or otherwise), without needing to buy GWEN. -- ab.er.rant 10:09, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

I see what he is getting at: If there is a high res digital map avaible, you can print out your own real map. --Xeeron 09:24, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Unless you have one of those big commercial printers with superb colors, you'd probably only be able to print them out on separate pieces of papers. Nothing beats the real thing! :P And I've decided to sacrifice the box for the bonus mission pack, given that the retail price for GWEN was calculated to be a bit higher than the online store price for where I'm at. Oh well, there's goes a box I'd love to have. -- ab.er.rant 10:52, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Map? Map of what?

ok, does anyone know what the map in the GW:EN retail package is a map OF, yet? an overlay of tyria, or something totally different? -70.191.81.74

Probably the Eye of the North in-game map, just like the Elona map that came with Nightfall and the Tyria/Cantha maps that came with the Prima guides. It sounds like the map will be pretty small, the Elona map is about 14 by 24 inches, and the older maps are bigger than that. 24.151.140.197 02:24, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

I imagine it might be Image:User Santax Tyria Small.jpg. - BeX 02:27, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

That's what I thought first too, but the dimensions aren't right. The image has a h/w ratio of 0.888, while the announced 11x17 map is 0.647. They'd have to pad the image by ~37% vertically to fit the announced dimensions. More likely, I think it'll be a composite of only the new EotN areas. —Dr Ishmael 02:47, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

It might be an underground map of the Depths of Tyria... not sure how they'd pull that off though, if these new dungeons are multi-level like they say they are then there'd be no way to map it properly all on one page. --Santax (talk · contribs) 17:10, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

The new map of Tyria is in, just go in-game. That's probably what it is, because it's about 40% taller than it used to be. Alaris 17:52, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

They probably pad the map image with a fancy-schmancy border thingy (since you got all technical with the dimensions I decided I had to use technical terms too).  ;) --Rainith 21:12, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

They could, but that would be one wide-ass border on the top and/or bottom with nothing on the sides. Not to mention that it would be nearly impossible to make out any details if they scaled the full map down to that size. —Dr Ishmael 22:18, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

They might crop out the southern portion, since you presumedly won't be visiting the Ring of Fire Islands or the Crystal Desert in Eye of the North. -- Gordon Ecker 22:31, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

That won't work. Remember, GW:EN takes place in northern areas such as the Charr homeland, but also there's the Tarnished Coast - which is down in southern Maguuma, and I think there's a little something added onto the bottom of the SOuthern Shiverpeaks. We'll just have to wait and see! Image:Esig2.jpg Eldin 00:07, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

They can crop out the Ring of Fire Islands and the Crystal Desert. -- Gordon Ecker 03:02, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Who cares, just buy it and hang it proudly -Elviondale 05:02, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Guild halls

Will there be any new guild hall choices with the release of Eye of the North? The architecture on the log in screen looks awesome, so I hope there are! - BeX 04:57, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

I really hope they do so we can have one of the Charr lands and another underground/dungeon one would be nice.-- Natalie Black 00:35, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

The burning forest would be nice! And probably unfair, people with lower end graphics cards would likely lag and crash in it giving richer players the advantage! Dancing Gnome 20:32, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Not really, people just run the game at whatever settings run smoothest for them so shouldnt be a problem. Having said that running at top spec is helpfull in GvG to be able to see everyone a lot better and who's doing what going where etc. --ChronicinabilitY 06:00, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

As I have posted on forums and answered in the game, there are no new guild halls in Guild Wars: Eye of the North. --Gaile 15:44, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the answer here Gaile. - BeX 02:24, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

6 years after Prophecies?

When does the game take place? 6 years after the Searing, 4 years after Factions and the end of Prophecies and 1 year after Nightfall, or 8 years after the Searing, 6 years after Factions and the end of Prophecies and 3 years after Nightfalll? The trailer implies that it's 6 years after the Searing, but I guess it's possible that Gwen's narration could take place 2 years before Eye of the North. -- Gordon Ecker 22:07, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Timeline says 6 years after the Searing, and that's been up there since May, so with the trailer agreeing with it, I'd say that's the answer. - Tanetris 22:14, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

That's not exactly a widely visited page. I'm gonna ask Gaile on her talk. --Heelz 15:39, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

10,000 hits isnt bad. :P - BeX 04:17, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

For the record, it was confirmed as 8 years after the Searing by Linsey Murdock here. -- Gordon Ecker 09:18, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

How old does that make gwen now? Is she old enough to fight?

As the trailer stated gwen is 6 years after the searing but how old was she then and how old is she now(+6) is she old enough to be fighting a war? to me she look around 6-8ish in pre(searing) and that +6 is 12-14 is that old enough to be fighting in a war? although in the gwen trailer she does look closer to the age of 16-18 witch is more aceptable for a waring age since our heros, aiden,devona mhenlo ect are/were in there 20`s.I know this is nothing major but we got the ages of the other heros but not gwen. think of it as a story questions un answerd. --Atrix 14:36, 30 July 2007 (UTC)Atrix

You got waay too much free time ~ Kurd 14:30, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

I think she looks about 12 in pre. - BeX 14:37, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

I reckon she is about 10 in pre which would make her 16 in eye of the north. I wonder if we can get Gaile to tell us --Lemming64 21:06, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

10 to 12 in pre-Searing looks about just right. Actually, now that you've mentioned it... are they going redraw Devona and gang to look older? Cynn, Mhenlo, Devona, and Eve may not have changed much since they're still probably just in their twenties, but Aidan would've likely hit 40. And it'll be passing through a time machine when you jump from a GWEN outpost to a Proph outpost, lol! -- ab.er.rant 01:59, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

I wonder what will happen to our characters? Maybe some wizards will enchant us so we never age LOL -- Scourge 02:16, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

I think she was about 10-12ish in Presear. I think that the henchmen will look the same and only Gwen will age. The hench didn't even change clothing in Elona. -- Natalie Black 01:14, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Just an upgrade of armor would be nice, maybe it'll make Aiden a bit more attractive :) Thelordoflard Talk!! 09:02, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Aiden needs better skills, not better looks. PS, please fix your sig code so it doesn't shrink other people's text... :P Arshay Duskbrow 09:24, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Hopefully Aiden will have an elite in this game, and maybe even one that does SOMETHING not the silly practiced stance. Dancing Gnome 20:31, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

You guys forget the Searing itself is two years, so its been 8 years since we last saw Gwen not 6 (because you see Gwen TWO years before post searing, searing takes 2 years, and then you start in post). Which would make her 18/20 if she was 10/12 in pre. Dancing Gnome 20:35, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

GW:EN Bear Edition

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Hiya Gaile, just a quick one. Will the "Bear Edition" of GW:EN only be availible in europe? I've heard this from a couple places, just wondered if it was true. Thanks --Alien 16:43, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Bear edition is merely a different cover, nothing different in contents. So it doesn't really matter which version you get. (Qanar | talk) 06:17, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

I think Alien knows that. He/She justs want a "Bear Edition" box for the box itself. -- ab.er.rant 06:27, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

yup, what abe said, I just wondered if it was true that they were only being sold in europe, as this is what ive heard from my local retailer and also from a couple of forums. --Alien 13:51, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

It is true that North America will have the Jora box, and Europe will have both the Jora and Bear boxes. I believe you could order from a European retailer if you feel you want to have a bear box. (I will hope that one of my friends at NCE will send me both versions so that I can add to my Guild Wars Shrine!) ;) --Gaile 18:05, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

If you happen to get one of the "Marketing Boxes" from GameStop or EBgames (The ones that say, "Coming Soon!" and, "Pre-order Now!"), they are Jora+Bear boxes. How do I know this? I have one! Marketing Box =DBlackie ewilson92 18:23, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Trailer

3 Great Notes to watch for 1) 1 min 32 seconds in you see a boy with a spear facing a wolf (300 and Leonidas?) 2) 1min 35 seconds in you see a Devourer the size of a Seige Turtle 3) 1 min 16 seconds in Greyscale Dwarves? (Grey Dwarves from D&D?)

Can someone else check up on these things and get back to me on them? Also note other strange movie/game reminisceint points in the trailer and post them (If this isn't removed from posts) ty. [Z. Ametefe] 4:06 p.m. August 1, 2007 --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:70.74.126.173 .

Hahah, awesome catches. I didn't think too much about the boy, although it had stuck out a few times in my mind. -elviondale (tahlk) 22:19, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

I never noticed them when I first watched it, lol. -- ab.er.rant 01:51, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

I thought the same thing about the wolf scene being like 300. Guess I wasn't the only one ;)--Stormrunner 00:24, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Hey, Z. again, just asking but is there any speculation on HOW a devourer could get so big? Also, reviewing the movie i found that it appears that the Charr were trying to either capture or bind it based on the chains and leather all over its back. Nasty surprise for the Ascalonians should another invasion come eh? Also, Feedback and speculation on the new developments of this HUGE creature is welcome ^_^ [Z. Ametefe] 12:23 a.m. August 2, 2007

That devourer is soooo going to be Molotov Rocktail Dancing Gnome 20:21, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Magma Hands and Assassin Mask

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i was watching the E3 Demo Video [[2]], and the narrator said you can get these special items not connected to a certain prof. can you tell us more about them? 24.79.130.137 08:02, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Wow, I just want to say, "Good Job ArenaNet!" I am just blown-away by that demo. You see what you did to me??? Now I can't wait!Blackie ewilson92 15:37, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Ditto, can't wait until it is released :D (OT) but can we use gift cards to buy in the official store right? (must get GW:EN & PBP while being Earth friendly...)--Bane of Worlds 16:16, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Do you mean gift cards like the Visa-branded cards? Yes, those are accepted in the In-Game Store and/or PlayNC Store. I know this because while we were discussing how best to address the needs of players (particularly Europeans, for whom owning a credit card is less prevalent), we talked about how the Visa Gift Card is accepted, which seems a very good option for some players. --Gaile 17:37, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Agreed with Blackie and Bane! That video really made me go "Whoa! :o" - IH 16:43, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

I will definitely inquire (today, if I have a chance) about how much we can say on the subject of special items and their not being connected to professions. :) --Gaile 17:50, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Ok, there's not much to say about this, except that the items that you're mentioning -- the ones that that are not bound to a specific profession -- are pretty special, and they will not be easily obtained. I guess because of the sheer versatility, they are items that will be especially desirable and I think you will have to work for them, rather than expect them to simply drop off a monster. Does that mean crafting? Special rare item collecting? Finding a certain NPC and dancing with him by the light of the silv'ry moon? I'm not sure yet, but I'll let you know if I find out more. --Gaile 05:01, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, anything that's available to every class will probably be popular on any class that can't normally get such-and-such an ability... can we expect any "PvE-only" armors? :P Or will these have balanced effects/be released to PvP characters as well? -- Jioruji Derako.> 05:21, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

I have not heard anything about PvE-only armours, and in fact, armours are very time-consuming and exacting to create, so I don't believe that they would be likely to appear. I could be mistaken, but that's my instinct. -Gaile 05:28, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

I know this sounds a little weird, but, I hope that the "Special Items" are at the end of some ginormous dungeon/world, time consuming, 100 quest, Quest Line. That would sort of add some hope to anyone who wants to obtain them.(for free) But at the same time, it would add a lot of prestige to the items if you actually earn them.Blackie ewilson92 16:35, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

This makes so much sense it feels like a spoiler posting it. Not bound to a specific profession? You mean like Lightbringer Skills? I'm guessing they will be bound to allegiance ranks to the factions in GW:EN and you gain them in a similair method in which you gain Lightbringer Skills. Max rank Lightbringer is, well it's easy but it takes a long time I guess. Everyone can gain allegiance ranks no matter their profession. These items might also corespond to the PvE skills. Then again you all probably came to the same conclusions I did :P. Dancing Gnome 22:14, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Other Norn heroes?

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Magni the Bison and Sif Shadowhunter are each referred to as heroes in at least one article. Are they recruitable heroes, or are they non-recruitable NPCs who are heroes by the common English definition of the word? -- Gordon Ecker 00:39, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

I do not know for certain, and since it is the weekend, can't get an answer on this one right now. However, one clue would be the use of the word "heroes" or "Heroes." The use of capitalization sets them aside as recruitable NPCs, as I recall. Let me check that in a couple of days. --Gaile 01:12, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Not to mention there was at least one article that said you would "unlock Norn heroes in the fighting tournament." Sounds like misinformation on the part of the article writer to me. Capcom 01:16, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

GW:EN Official Demo Overview

http://uk.media.pc.ign.com/media/896/896299/vids_1.html Click the video with the same title as this header. Suggest adding the information contained in the video? I'm still new at adding information to such an important page so I'll leave it to an expert. Tr33zon 17:43, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Nice find! :) Don't be afraid to edit, even if you do do something wrong it can always be corrected. :) --Alien 17:59, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

I kinda feel like crying. 1) because its so awesome 2) because my computer will in no way handle the forest fire 3) seeing your heroes petrified is kinda sad. -elviondale (tahlk) 18:30, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

haha, xD Im so excited! I can't wait any longer. Also if you listen carefully I think they are going to add a little noise to each npc when you click on them, which looks awsome, reminds me of so many other games with that feature like the warcraft series and the Age of empires series. :) --Alien 18:38, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah I thought that was pretty cool -elviondale (tahlk) 18:40, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I'm thinking that might have come from Dungeon Runners instead. Clicking on DR npcs produces some really funny response. -- ab.er.rant 06:31, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Charr Homeland?

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Hi Gaile, I'd like to know if you can release any information on the Charr homeland, more specifically the name. Currently it is difficult to document information on the Charr homeland, since it hasn't actually been referred to as anything else yet. If you can't share anything on the name, could you perhaps tell us why? Does it have some sort of significance to the storyline? That wouldn't make much sense to me since every player in the game will know what its called within a day of release. Anyway, hope you have some info to share, and thanks. --Santax (talk · contribs) 11:01, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

I would be happy to ask about this. Let me see if we have some info to provide during the upcoming week. Thanks for a good question. --Gaile 18:58, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

I spoke with Ree, who is writing the story for Guild Wars 2, and she tells me that yes, the Charr homeland does indeed have a name. She also told me that it's not yet reveal-able. Charrleston, anyone? :D --Gaile 00:15, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

LMAO! Charrleston!-Now to my question- So Guild Wars 2 DOES have something to do with Guild Wars 1?Blackie ewilson92 02:50, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, yes, of course. I mean, Guild Wars, Guild Wars 2 -- there's some sort of connection, wouldn't you think? ;) It's a few hundred years apart, so if you look at human history, a lot could take place in the space of a few centuries. I mean, consider just the 100-year span from the U.S. Civil War (1861-1865) to 1965. From horse-and-carriage to space travel! From Spencer Rifles to light sabers! (Well, almost!) Anyway, I don't expect GW2 will be exactly like Guild Wars, but it will surely have many things in common. --Gaile 02:57, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Ok so are you saying that the Charr homeland will be unnamed in EOTN? And that it will only be named in GW2? Counciler 06:33, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

It WILL have a name in GW:EN but she can't reveal it to us yet. --- Raptors

Some observations from the high-def video on gametrailers

• Town and outpost names: Eye of the North, Gunnar's Hold, Longeye's Ledge, Rata Sum
• Gunnar's Hold NPCs:
  • 20 Gellir Frostshield (Norn Fighting Tournament access NPC)
• Polymock Coliseum NPCs:
  • 20 Wokk (Polymock Judge)
  • 20 Yulma
• Polymock pieces: Fire Imp, Gargoyle, Mergoyle and Skale
• Imp skill bar: (polymock) flare, (polymock) immolate, (polymock) meteor, (polymock) power drain, (polymock) remove hex, (polymock) glyph of concentration, (polymock) ether signet, (polymock) glyph of restoration
• Yulma's skill bar in gargoyle or mergoyle form: polymock glyph of concentration, polymock lightning orb, polymock storm djinn's haste
• Arachni's Haunt NPCs:
  • Asura space marines:
    • 20 Commander Hixx
    • 20 Hudd
    • 20 Vask
  • Monsters:
    • 20 Earthbound Ooze (skills: Shockwave)
    • 20 Ominous Ooze (skills: Consume Corpse, Signet of Sorrow, Vile Touch, Ooze Combination, Ooze Division)
    • 20 Deadly Lavastrider (skills: Needling Shot, Incendiary Arrows)
  • Unknown dungeon NPCs:
    • 28 Forge Master
    • ? Luk the Mischeivous

-- Gordon Ecker 02:01, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Nice work, I was thinking about making a page for the Asuran character (Hero or NPC, not quite sure) Commander Hixx, since you see him more than any other new char. -elviondale (