Talk:Hall of Monuments

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Contents 1 Hall of Monuments; Are we wasting our time and money?? 2 HoM devotion question 3 HoM 4 Bugs 5 Additions? 6 Suggestions on the mechanics of the HoM 7 Another HoM statue? 8 Just a few thoughts on the halls?? 9 Names 10 Passage? 11 Multiple Accounts 12 Deleted chars

[edit] Hall of Monuments; Are we wasting our time and money??

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Hi Gaile.

Tried to ask you about HoM when you were in Shing Jea today, but I don't know if I got a good answer. Many players are wondering how the connection between HoM and Guild Wars 2 are going to work. We have had a few discussions about this in my alliance recently but we don't seem to find a good explanation of how its going to work. The one explanation we think is the most accurate is that one character from Guild Wars 2 will inherit the HoM from one of the characters from Guild Wars, but how would that work if I create a Charr? Charrs and Humans are not related to one another. While I was in Shing Jea, I saw a lot of players that was questioning the fact that only the names from Guild Wars was going to be inherited to the Guild Wars 2 account. If thats the case, then we have been wasting our time and money to max out our HoM:s. I think ArenaNet really needs to clarify how the connection between the 2 games are going to work. If players realize at the release of GW2, that they have been wasting a lot of time and money to max their HoM, nobody knows for sure what players reactions are going to be like. You might not be able to reveal all the secrets but you could atleast tell us if we are wasting our time or not. Thanks, Arthas The Warrior -- Treasure Boy 23:01, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh really, why cant people just read the archieves? It has been said over and over and over and over, that gaile has no news on this as its too early and that no one is forcing you to max the HoM, so if you don't want to take the chance then wait til gw2 comes out and then try and max everything. until then however anet and gaile owe you nothing and that includes answers to this question. *shakes head at the demanding tone some people use when asking questions* -- Salome 23:12, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Because the archives aren't exactly prominently placed. I'm betting the HoM is just going to be a room you can visit to drive home exactly how little you accomplished in those four thousand hours of your life. :P --71.229.204.25 23:16, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

No, You are NOT waiting your money for HoM. But know since everyone is wildly farming, title maxing etc. The end rewards may just be luke warm. I still think HoM is a good idea. But chose what you want to max. Maxing it all is a utter waist. 68.151.27.108 23:53, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

As Salome has implied there have been many discussion on this subject, that in itself tells you something about the interest players have on this subject. Just as you are wanting answers there are many, many players who waiting with you. The answers for the growing questions on the Hall of Monuments seem to be very far off, which is frustrating many players but this page is not for that. Gaile has moved previous discussions from this page in regards to this subject, I suggest you look in the Hall of Monuments page for any updated information and keep an eye on it because that is where updates may be made. House Of Furyan 00:04, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

titles are a waste of time... end of story. 24.141.45.72 02:11, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Different folks, different strokes. If you want to grind for titles, go ahead. enjoy til your heart's content. HoM isn't a required thing to have for GW2 but will certainly make you feel like you've faithful to GW. Renin 02:16, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, maxing titles is a waste of time.......but then again so is playing video games. Right now I doubt there are any hard and fast answers to the questions you ask, only intents, the actual how, and what may not be answered yet. Just be patient, and play the game for what it is right now, not speculate about what it might possibly be. Med Luvin 16:05, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

what annoys me the most is that there are "account wide and character" titles.. HoM should have been for just ONE of your characters but all you titles from you whole account count towards HoM. Ive maxed my hall, but i really cant say its been fun deciding what character i would max it with. I the end, since i have not heard otherwise, i think its a total waste of time. The whole idea is cool, but the implementation and reward system is unfair. For one that it has to be armor sets, two that you have to have 11 destroyer weapons and three that you have to do everything over again if you want another character to gain the same "mystery" benefits for GW2.

First, for the comment mentioned by Med Luvin above, if you think playing video games is a waste of time, i ask, why are you monitoring this wiki? and if it's just to place those types of comments, i think we'd all thank you to stop. But on the other subject, A-net will probably have some sort of way to distinguish who's hall your character will inherit, syaing i'm the great granson of so-and-so, etc. in teh character customization screen. As fo rthe other races, i can only draw a blank on how it will all tie to together. And if it was only our names beign passed on, what's the point of a whole HoM, so lets all be confident that there will be rewards for us to reap in Gw2, kinda like the biggest, best pre-order package ever. Lord Zepherr 09:13, April 24, 2008 (UTC)

[edit] HoM devotion question

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If I have added a minipet in my HoM and sell my dedicated minipet then it will still be in my HoM. So does that mean you get still the reward in GW2 , if it is in your hall of monuments, but not anymore in your storage or inventory? Or do you need to keep it in your storage and inventory to reccief the reward for it in GW2? Death Sligher 12:23, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

After it's dedicated, it can be sold or destroyed. Same goes for all monuments. You can salvage armor and destroyer weapons for scrap once they are added to the hall.--Pyron Sy 15:33, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

And then you still will get reward in gw2? Death Sligher 15:34, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

If it's in your hall, it's going to count for the reward. So, yes.--Pyron Sy 15:39, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Of course, nobody has said what the reward is yet. So it might not be anything you wanted. Sadie2k 01:37, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

I thought the designers had said that the devotion alter was the only one which they weren't certain was going to have rewards in GW2. Like all the rest will, but they haven't decided if minipets will equate any reward in gw2. Which kinda makes sense to me, as thats kinda like getting a present for getting a present -- Salome 04:11, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

If that's been said, I hadn't heard. All I know is that the word is you don't need to retain an item after it's been added. There's no telling what reward, if any, you actually get.--Pyron Sy 04:58, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

That would seem out of place to have the Devotion monument not give a reward considering this:

" Then, when Guild Wars 2 arrives, each of these monuments will correspond to special features your Guild Wars 2 characters can "inherit" from your own legendary past, giving you access to exclusive titles, companions , weapons, attire, and miniatures. These inherited items are unique: there is no other way within Guild Wars 2 to acquire them." Quote from the Hall of Monuments (may be out of page and need an update if this is now wrong)

Please notice the word each. Anet hasn't confirmed any solid information about the Hall of Monuments bar what has already been released which is very limited, causing a bit of confusion and a lot of questions from the playing community. The Hall of Monuments page is probably the best place for this question. Sligher, might I suggest you check this page Monument of Devotion page. House Of Furyan 05:29, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

I think there's no point asking about it. We'll know when they've made an official announcement. They haven't made any announcements because they're not ready to commit to anything yet, so it's pointless to ask. They just aren't 100% sure of how it will work. They're not waiting for a date to tell you... they're working on it so they have something definite to tell you in the future. -- ab.er.rant 06:22, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

I was only asking if I would need to keep the dedicated items in my storage to get a reward if they give one. If there will be a reward wasn't the question. Death Sligher 14:33, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

The question of GW2 rewards is a very hot topic at the moment; it's inevitable that any question even tangentally related to the topic of rewards will spawn the above discussion. To actually answer your question: you don't need to keep dedicated items. As long as it's in the HoM, you will get a reward for it -- the original item can be sold or even destroyed and you will still be rewarded. Assuming there is a reward for that specific item, of course. ^^ --Mme. Donelle 06:58, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] HoM

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Referring to this post has there been any other word on customizing the 'rearrange' algorythm? I am regretting adding all my titles now because I cannot display what I would like to display at the same time... IE. if I want to display Legendary Cartographer, there is no way I can display my Master of the North or Kurzick title at the same time, as they are too far apart on the list or rotation. Whereas, if I had of waited, watching others HoM's and seeing what the statues look like and hand-selecting my personal 5, I'd be able to display those without a problem. Any idea when(if) this will get looked at and possibly changed? — Rappy 00:50, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Maybe it could be made, so player could choose from the list which titles to show (of course, he could only choose as many titles as there can be shown). --Шєвч [TALK] @ 09:54, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

I have not heard of any changes planned to Hall of Monuments. If I learn more, I will of course be happy to relay it. -- Gaile 06:13, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

I think that would be a great thing for the devs to upgrade in the HOM. Make it more user-friendly. :) Foxysheri 02:35, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Yea... it's somewhat ironic that they called it "rearrange" when it's really just "rotate". -- ab.er.rant 02:49, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Something along the lines of a drag and drop feature, I'm sure it wouldn't be to difficult to add in and plus would be more user friendly. I myself having 33 achievements in my HoM makes it hard for me to get a good set with the current "rearrange" button, especially with all the maps I own :/ --Kickass 09:31, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Or a "remove from" option would work too, allowing you to remove and re-apply titles. I thought I recalled seeing the ability to remove stuff from one of the other monuments (mini-pets maybe), so if the functionality is there elsewhere, would seem the easiest route to fix this issue. -- Alesain 00:24, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Just checked HoM, I guess I was seeing things with the remove option on mini's. But it's an idea at least! ;P -- Alesain 00:29, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bugs

I found 2 unusual things while I was just sitting in my HoM: When you use Summon Ruby Djinn and try to get it in front of a tapestry it shows up like it's behind it, while it isn't. Second: when you use Life and the spirit dies, the stands for the Destroyer weapons on the Valor monument are healed. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:62.45.0.165 (talk).

what is gw:en? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:90.208.127.13 (talk).

In the future, sign your comments by typing four tildes (~~~~) after your comments, please. GW:EN is short for Guild Wars: Eye of the North, the expansion this whole page is related to. -- Mafaraxas 16:39, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Additions?

OK, this bit is for those of us who want the devs to add soem stuff to the hall, feel free to add your own suggestions, and please, sign the petition below if youy agree and want these additions added. 1: Make all end game weps dedicatable, and if not all, at least the new prophacies end game weps. 2: Make all gold weps dedicatable, as long as they fulfill these requirements: First they are completley upgraded with all manner of added parts, and an inscription, Second, they are customized to their respective cahracter. 3: Make all Pre-order weps available. ( I mean, when you read about them, it says they're really important to the culture of their creators, and they're not even displayable, which makes me wonder if they were really important at all.) 4: Make all unique(green) items displayable, aslong as they are customized. That's really all I can think of now, so please, iff you agree sign your name, if it's a suggestion, notify that it is first before adding it. Lord Zepherr April 24, 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestions on the mechanics of the HoM

I really like the idea mentioned here of GW2 having a HoM displaying the weapons you placed in it in GW1, and then any character you make in GW2 could choose to take them out in the form of a "token", which can be exchanged for a "Legacy" weapon corresponding with the type of weapon in the HoM. The Legacy weapon would be a unique GW2 skin.

This would mean that the GW2 HoM would have to be account-wide, so you can choose which character you created in GW2 is going to "inherit" a weapon. And you'd have to be able to choose any weapon you placed in the HoM. This way you could create multiple classes and select the Legacy weapon you can best use on your new character(s) out of one account-wide HoM.

There is another thing I would like to see:

• Make weapons placed in the HoM dedicated and not customized.
• Make the HoM's of all your characters add up in the GW2 account-wide HoM.

Why? Because now in Gw1 the HoM's are character based. We currently don't know how the Gw2 HoM will work. The way it looks now, it's not wise to spread out all your accomplishments, minipets, hero alite armor and valor weapons across your characters, because you'll end up with multiple half-filled HoM's. So to be on the safe side, people collect stuff like mini's, elite armor for heroes and themselves and destroyer weapons, and add them in the HoM of their MAIN character. This results in two problems imo:

• Because valor weapons get customized, you can only use them on the selected main character and his/her heroes. This makes no sense to me, as I'd like to be able to use these elite weapons on my own characters, not my main characters' heroes. Make them either dedicated or, better yet, make sure all Gw1 HoM's are added up in the Gw2 HoM (which therefore should need to be account wide!), and problem solved.
• As long as we don't know how the Gw2 HoM will work, people that like to hunt for titles and stuff to place in their HoM, will start using their secondary characters less, and their main character more. This results in less variety in classes in the game being played, which is bad imo.

So to conclude: Making the Gw2 HoM account wide AND adding up all achievements, minipets, hero armor, valor-weapons and elite armor from all your GW1 HoM's into the Gw2 HoM would ensure multiple positive things:

• people would no longer feel the need to play ONE main character in Gw1, making the game more diverse again. (title hunting on multiple characters is more fun too imo, unless you want to have a high KoaBD title)
• you could customize whichever weapon you like on whichever character you have on your Gw1 account to their respective HoM's, and continue using them on those characters instead of the main characters heroes. The Gw2 HoM would display them all anyway.
• Having Elite armor on multiple characters would pay off. Of course, elite armor of a certain profession would only be availabe as "legacy" armor in Gw2 to a character of a corresponding class (which doesn't necesarily have to be the same profession, as Gw2 will probably have entirely different classes)
• Double achievements would just be available as "legacy" titles in Gw2 as many times as you achieved them in Gw1. You could choose which characters in Gw2 inherit which titles. Same with double weapons.

Lastly I'd like to see it possible to add ALL end-game greens from ALL campaigns to the HoM. Possibly also tormented weapons. Sjeng 08:29, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

I agree with you. But I can almost give you a 100 percent guarantee that the hall of monuments will never be collectivly added togther to make one big one in GW2. That would leave the HoM open for abuse. But weapons that have been posted to the HoM should be dedicated instead of customized. Effigy 03:25, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

How would that leave the HoM open for abuse? I don't see how it could be abused really... could you explain? Sjeng 10:09, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you ever so much Anet for listening to the suggestions of the community!!! Thank you!! Sjeng 07:00, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Another HoM statue?

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Why isnt there a stsatye in the HoM for completing the quest "A Time For Heroes"? --Burning Freebies 20:48, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

I think the idea is that the HoM itself is the reward for completing the quest. That being said, I wouldn't mind another statue. 76.120.124.95 03:09, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

You can use HoM waaaay before "A Time For Heroes", so HoM is defenitly not the reward for that quest. --Шєвч [TALK] @ 18:19, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Freebies -- this sounds almost like a suggestion! Did you want to add it to the GW Suggestions page? (There's a link on the upper right of this page, if you wish.) -- Gaile 03:52, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Just a few thoughts on the halls??

I think our halls could be greatly beneficial with a few tweaks.

/> Add a "Hall of Monuments" button under the "Guild Hall" button on the "[G] Guild" menu screen.

/> Add a Xunlai Chest inside the HoM.

/> Add the ability to display all of our Festival Hats.

/> I'd also like to see all my Heroes standing around in there... like Vekk, Ogden, & Gwen already are.

/> More weapons to the "Valor" display. (not just tormented..which singles out NF.)

/> Statue of the Great Destroyer in honor of my victory on the "Honor" display. (Eternal Hero of The North)

/> Guild Banner flying somewhere in the hall.

/> The ability to display more PvE titles.. sometimes I think Anet focuses way too much on PvP at the expense of PvE. (imho)

Overall we aren't completely sure what Anet has in store for the HoM & GW2.... so I hope that they think ahead alot and consider all the things we poured ourselves into while playing GW1.. (guilds, titles, quests, etc...) I just say this...cause I was never really into PvP.

Hodjedi 18:40, 6 July 2008 (UTC)Hodjedi

1: under H rather than G

2: why not? :P

3: Since there is only one possibility to get them i don't think people should be rewarded for that in gw2

4: I don't really care..

5: Agree

6: Agree

7: Don't care

8: Aren't all pve title displayable in the HoM..? (agree on the pve pvp thing but HoM is one of the few things focused on pve where anet has put allot of effort in

Pulpulpullie 11:24, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Problem with 2 would be The Eye of the North being an explorable area. --Arduinna 13:13, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

That wouldn't be a problem.. It just hasn't been done before.. Pulpulpullie 17:16, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Dragging precious items to the storage is a very common action. It would be too easy to drag-n-drop an item on the ground by mistake and log off. When using the storage, a player should be in a controlled environment in order to avoid possible accidents. Vezz 02:05, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Names

Okay, I know I'm going to feel really stupid after I get the answers back, but I really wanted to know. I saw that they switched over to account based, but I just wanted a little clarification on this. Does that mean that if I have character "Bob" and character "Jack" on GW1, and on Bob I add a certain title and on Jack I add a certain hero, will character "Tim" on GW2 get both the title and the hero? Thanks in advance for answering my stupid questions! -«troy frostwind­» 04:21, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't know, but I'm sure we will find out after this weeks update. --Arduinna 13:11, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Passage?

Has anybody noticed that behind the Honor monument there seems to be a passage leading up into the blackness? Lord Zepherr 22:56 July 25, 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Multiple Accounts

I've not seen any mention to how the HoM will work for those of us with multiple accounts. As it was, when I started playing GW you only had 4 char slots, and so to make all 6 professions, you needed 2 accounts. Add to this the fact I played at weird times for Europe, and I purchased a 3rd account to play in the American districts. What I'm wondering, as I'd asssume the improvements you made in GW will be back again for GW2 (extra char slots, changing servers etc) is how my HoM achievements will transfer over. Can I link multiple accounts for GW to a single GW2 account, or are my combined efforts on these 2nd and 3rd accounts with relation to the HoM for nothing. Is it going to be a PlayNC account based thing, cause my gf and mine accounts are all on the same PlayNC account, so how would that work as we both want separate GW2 accounts? Any information would be appreciated. Thx Magua 15:17, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

For as far as I know, if you get 3 gw2 accounts you can transfer all your gw1 achievement's to gw2. I don't think they will ever allow you to transfer multiple account achievements to a single account. Pulpulpullie 10:33, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deleted chars

I'm thinking about deleting my ranger main, to start all over on GW. My ranger has all the monuments fully modded. If I delete this char, will the achievements still be there for GW2? 89.150.88.23 16:26, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

I would wait at least until the HoM update comes live, and even then I probably wouldn't take a chance. Until a developer gives an answer to your question, this would be my advice. -- Alaris 16:52, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

My advise: NEVER delete your main character.. make a 2nd, it's only ~7 euro.. :P Pulpulpullie 20:47, 15 September 2008 (UTC)