Talk:Languages of Tyria
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[edit] Canthan
I found this thread, which has a link to this photo of a Canthan alphabet key, taken by Shi Violet. -- Gordon Ecker 03:12, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- Oooo...Nice find! Arduinna
11:52, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
- I've removed Kaineng. None of the other named emperors are referred to using Kaineng, suggesting that it was part of his name rather than part of his title. -- Gordon Ecker 07:35, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
- Hmm, indeed that's strange none of the others are called Kaineng. But Ermenred writes "In the Canthan tongue, the title went from Kaineng Chang, literally "emperor lord," to "Kaineng Weh no Su," or "Emperor Near to the Stars." So the word Kaineng definitely means Emperor, maybe precisely because it was the name of the first emperor. Maybe it's the same thing with Chang. It was first part of the name of Chang Hai and then went to mean Lord? Later Ermenred continues "the warlord Kaing took the name Kaineng Tah when he declared himself the first lord emperor of the dragon". So indeed Kaineng was his name, just slightly modified. Unless the Kaing/Kaineng homophony is purely coincidental. Hem, that's starting to get a bit confusing! But what annoys me more is the full title Lord Emperor Kaineng Tah! Somewhat redundent. Maybe we should ask Ascalon Press to republish Ermenred's long out-of-print Canthan-Ascalonian Dictionary? - MORTUIЯUS 12:05, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
- Is this from a magazine article? -- Gordon Ecker 23:01, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
- Hmm, indeed that's strange none of the others are called Kaineng. But Ermenred writes "In the Canthan tongue, the title went from Kaineng Chang, literally "emperor lord," to "Kaineng Weh no Su," or "Emperor Near to the Stars." So the word Kaineng definitely means Emperor, maybe precisely because it was the name of the first emperor. Maybe it's the same thing with Chang. It was first part of the name of Chang Hai and then went to mean Lord? Later Ermenred continues "the warlord Kaing took the name Kaineng Tah when he declared himself the first lord emperor of the dragon". So indeed Kaineng was his name, just slightly modified. Unless the Kaing/Kaineng homophony is purely coincidental. Hem, that's starting to get a bit confusing! But what annoys me more is the full title Lord Emperor Kaineng Tah! Somewhat redundent. Maybe we should ask Ascalon Press to republish Ermenred's long out-of-print Canthan-Ascalonian Dictionary? - MORTUIЯUS 12:05, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
- I've removed Kaineng. None of the other named emperors are referred to using Kaineng, suggesting that it was part of his name rather than part of his title. -- Gordon Ecker 07:35, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Archaic Canthan?
Btw, What about the chants in Tahnnakai Temple? They really look Canthan. Since they are magical incantions and all words are monosyllabic, that might be an archaic version of the language? I don't know where to put them, so I put them here... "Yaa ziin, yaa yun...shae yaa, dom vi... / Nao o hoi be mao." - MORTUIЯUS 12:05, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Alphabet image
It could be me but it slightly resembles both hiragana and katakana. For example, the upper left letter is exactly the same as the character 'he' (both hiragana and katakana), and the I like letter is the same as the 'e' character in katakana. Furthermore, the second left letter from the bottom row looks like the hiragana 'no'. Just wiki it.Sephira 12:52, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
- Actually, Matthew Medina used the Pheonician alphabet to create the Tyrian one. - MORTUIЯUS 11:53, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
- For the record, the image referenced is not the "Tyrian" alphabet, but old Ascalonian runes. It is not associated with the spoken "common" language, but does still show up quite frequently in common documents and other writings because of the efforts of many generations of Ascalonian scholars. --Matthew Medina 16:03, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Phoenician
[edit] Tyrian
[edit] Trivia?
Is it worth noting that "Common" is frequently used by the fantasy genre when referring to any "universal language" used by various sentient races and one that most non-humans will know as well -- or at least a smattering of it (for practical reasons, ingame language barriers can can bog games down when frequently used). A good example would be DnD's "Common" ("default tongue") used by culturally diverse races and is easily learned but capable of expressing only basic concepts (aka English by default, though "Common" typically is the language being used by the player/reader). Compared to Elven's arcanic-fluid language or Dwarven's pragmatic-runic language, Common is language that evovles with the times and displays a wide variety of debased-dialects, slang-riddens, pudgin variations and a jumbled mixture of every other language. --Falconeye 17:06, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
- No, because "common" is a player-base term and Trivia's are for in-game references to other things. If, in game, the language was given the name of "common" then yes, that should be added to Trivia, however, because it is player-base, it should not. -- Azazel The Assassin\talk 22:28, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
