Talk:List of armor collectors in Ascalon (pre-Searing)

It looks like this page is very similar to pre-Searing armor collectors except for the by profession table. Seems merging the 2 pages would be the correct thing to do. Just a matter of which makes sense to use pre-Searing armor collectors or List of armor collectors in pre-Searing Ascalon. Prof alf 13:24, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

I broke out the profession table into it's own page: Profession/Collector armor (pre-Searing), and placed the link to it in the Profession section on the bottom of the page. So I believe deleting the other page would be safe. Prof alf 20:34, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

um is that word supposed to be there?

i looked back in the history and i dont know where or when but Im sure that word shouldnt be in the warrior boots Karleen gives

Upgrading all 5 armor pieces

So not every profession can upgrade all 5 armor slots in Pre-Searing Ascalon?

Nope, the table at the top is just slightly confusing. here is an alternative layout (click on the headers to sort the data)

Profession		Item	AR	Armor bonus	Value	Collector	Location	Collecting
W	Warrior	Krytan Gauntlets	27	Armor +20 (vs. physical damage)	9	Jacobs	Lakeside Country	3 Baked Husks
R	Ranger	Krytan Boots	12	Armor +30 (vs. elemental damage)	9	Jacobs	Lakeside Country	3 Baked Husks
ME	Mesmer	Krytan Footwear	7	Energy recovery +1	9	Jacobs	Lakeside Country	3 Baked Husks
W	Warrior	Krytan Cuirass	27	Armor +20 (vs. physical damage)	9	Kaylee	Lakeside Country	3 Grawl Necklaces
R	Ranger	Krytan Vest	12	Energy +5 Armor +30 (vs. elemental damage)	9	Kaylee	Lakeside Country	3 Grawl Necklaces
W	Warrior	Krytan Cuirass	27	Armor +20 (vs. physical damage)	9	Hatcher	Regent Valley or Fort Ranik	5 Unnatural Seeds
R	Ranger	Krytan Vest	12	Energy +5 Armor +30 (vs. elemental damage)	9	Hatcher	Regent Valley or Fort Ranik	5 Unnatural Seeds
MO	Monk	Krytan Vestments	7	Energy +5	9	Hatcher	Regent Valley or Fort Ranik	5 Unnatural Seeds
N	Necromancer	Krytan Tunic	7	Energy +5	9	Hatcher	Regent Valley or Fort Ranik	5 Unnatural Seeds
ME	Mesmer	Krytan Attire	7	Energy +5	9	Hatcher	Regent Valley or Fort Ranik	5 Unnatural Seeds
E	Elementalist	Krytan Robes	7	Energy +5	9	Hatcher	Regent Valley or Fort Ranik	5 Unnatural Seeds
W	Warrior	Krytan Leggings	27	Armor +20 (vs. physical damage)	9	Varis	Regent Valley or Fort Ranik	3 Spider Legs
R	Ranger	Krytan Leggings	12	Energy recovery +1 Armor +30 (vs. elemental damage)	9	Varis	Regent Valley or Fort Ranik	3 Spider Legs
MO	Monk	Krytan Pants	7	Energy recovery +1	9	Varis	Regent Valley or Fort Ranik	3 Spider Legs
N	Necromancer	Krytan Leggings	7	Energy recovery +1	9	Varis	Regent Valley or Fort Ranik	3 Spider Legs
ME	Mesmer	Krytan Hose	7	Energy recovery +1	9	Varis	Regent Valley or Fort Ranik	3 Spider Legs
E	Elementalist	Krytan Leggings	7	Energy recovery +1	9	Varis	Regent Valley or Fort Ranik	3 Spider Legs
W	Warrior	Krytan Helm	27	Item's Attribute +1 (Stacking)	3	Professor Yakkington	The secret garden (Regent Valley)	50 Red Iris Flowers
R	Ranger	Simple Mask	12	Item's Attribute +1 (Stacking)	3	Professor Yakkington	The secret garden (Regent Valley)	50 Red Iris Flowers
MO	Monk	Dragon Scalp Design	7	Item's Attribute +1 (Stacking)	3	Professor Yakkington	The secret garden (Regent Valley)	50 Red Iris Flowers
N	Necromancer	Ragged Scar Pattern	7	Item's Attribute +1 (Stacking)	3	Professor Yakkington	The secret garden (Regent Valley)	50 Red Iris Flowers
ME	Mesmer	Discreet Mask	7	Item's Attribute +1 (Stacking)	3	Professor Yakkington	The secret garden (Regent Valley)	50 Red Iris Flowers
E	Elementalist	Third Eye	7	Item's Attribute +1 (Stacking)	3	Professor Yakkington	The secret garden (Regent Valley)	50 Red Iris Flowers
N	Necromancer	Krytan Gloves	7	Energy +5	9	Gwynn	The Catacombs	3 Skeletal Limbs
W	Warrior	Krytan Boots	27	Armor +20 (vs. physical damage)	9	Karleen	The Catacombs	5 Gargoyle Skulls
R	Ranger	Krytan Boots	12	Armor +30 (vs. elemental damage)	9	Karleen	The Catacombs	5 Gargoyle Skulls
MO	Monk	Krytan Sandals	7	Energy recovery +1	9	Karleen	The Catacombs	5 Gargoyle Skulls
N	Necromancer	Krytan Boots	7	Energy recovery +1	9	Karleen	The Catacombs	5 Gargoyle Skulls
ME	Mesmer	Krytan Footwear	7	Energy recovery +1	9	Karleen	The Catacombs	5 Gargoyle Skulls
E	Elementalist	Krytan Shoes	7	Energy recovery +1	9	Karleen	The Catacombs	5 Gargoyle Skulls
E	Elementalist	Krytan Gloves	7	Energy +5	9	Mindle	Wizard's Folly	3 Enchanted Lodestones
W	Warrior	Krytan Gauntlets	27	Armor +20 (vs. physical damage)	9	Savich	Wizard's Folly	3 Icy Lodestoness
R	Ranger	Krytan Gloves	12	Armor +30 (vs. elemental damage)	9	Savich	Wizard's Folly	3 Icy Lodestoness
MO	Monk	Krytan Handwraps	7	Energy +5	9	Savich	Wizard's Folly	3 Icy Lodestoness
N	Necromancer	Krytan Gloves	7	Energy +5	9	Savich	Wizard's Folly	3 Icy Lodestoness
ME	Mesmer	Krytan Gloves	7	Energy +5	9	Savich	Wizard's Folly	3 Icy Lodestoness
E	Elementalist	Krytan Gloves	7	Energy +5	9	Savich	Wizard's Folly	3 Icy Lodestoness

-Chieftain Alex 14:34, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Quick navigation table

I re-added the removed useful info and took up the idea of adding the collectors in the table. This way it's far more useful than with just the common armour. At least that's how I (used to) use it. Steve1 (talk) 17:34, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

The reason for my edit was the unsightly empty cells in the table. A quick navigation shouldn't include all options, but only the most applicable information. The rest of the article is sufficient in informing players about alternative options. Hence the footnote at the bottom of the smaller table.

"¹ Excluding profession-specific alternatives, listed below."

Strongly suggesting going back to the previous version. - Infinite - talk 11:58, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Actually, a much cleaner way to present alternative options could be extracted from the table and made into a list instead:

Pre-Searing "Max" Armor collectables quick navigation1
Profession	Headgear	Chest armor	Hand armor	Leg armor	Footwear
All	Professor Yakkington: 50 Red Iris Flowers	Hatcher: 5 Unnatural Seeds	Savich: 3 Icy Lodestones	Varis: 3 Spider Legs	Karleen: 5 Gargoyle Skulls

• ¹ Excluding profession-specific alternatives, listed below:

Alternatives

Warrior

• Chest armor from Kaylee, requires 3 Grawl Necklaces
• Hand armor from Jacobs, requires 3 Baked Husks

Ranger

• Chest armor from Kaylee, requires 3 Grawl Necklaces
• Footwear from Jacobs, requires 3 Baked Husks

Monk

• Hand armor from Mindle, requires 3 Enchanted Lodestones

Necromancer

• Hand armor from Gwynn, requires 3 Skeletal Limbs

Mesmer

• Footwear from Jacobs, requires 3 Baked Husks

Elementalist

• Hand armor from Mindle, requires 3 Enchanted Lodestones

Something like this might work? - Infinite - talk 12:14, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Well, the way I have been using this table since February 2014 was to have all the relevant info available at one glance. So when you removed the class-specific info, you made the table far less useful for me. Your alternative isn't too bad, but still inferior to the overview table.

Counterproposal: We call the table "Pre-Searing "Max" Armor collectables overview" or "Pre-Searing "Max" Armor collectables at a glance" and part of the problem goes away. ;)

Joking aside: I'd still prefer the table with many empty cells to your alternative list.

Test it yourself and (honestly) tell me which version gives you all of the relevant info quicker and easier. Steve1 (talk) 16:43, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Changed my mind. I doubt I will be using the table much in the future. Feel free to ignore my previous objection. Steve1 (talk) 17:02, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

I am currently trying to go with the original table, except making the profession-specific part of the table expandable. Either my wiki-fu is low, or GWW's table's aren't coded for it. - Infinite - talk 11:19, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

How's this? :) - Infinite - talk 11:54, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Nice. Trying to find something to nitpick ... can't find anything ... bummer ... ;-D Steve1 (talk) 16:34, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Fabulous job! Thanks for tackling that one folks. G R E E N E R 18:00, 20 October 2016 (UTC)