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[edit] Two Titles?

It was my understanding that the Lucky and Unlucky titles were different, both in name and acquisition. Is there a reason they are merged? 68.104.205.160 16:01, 7 April 2007 (EDT)

The lucky and unlucky titles are closely related to eachother which is why they were merged.--Bane of Worlds (talkcontribs) 22:20, 26 April 2007 (EDT)

[edit] The max...

Since it's now possible to get the highest rank in both Lucky and Unlucky, we'll need to scout out those who have the Prosperous title and are advancing with it. Hopefully we'll get a confirmation as to whether or not Golden and Wretched are the highest rank for their affiliated titles. Sadly I'm not up there to do the research myself. — Sixshot 16:51, 28 April 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Blessed By Fate

Berry Hoodlum, please provide a screenshot for this new max title. --BigBlueImage:Monk 20.png talk 06:12, 29 April 2007 (EDT)


Tried, can't figure it out now, too tired. Come look at american district 4 i am afk there, you can see i got golden. Why would i lie about this anyway...

Blessed By Fate 2,500,000 Berry Hoodlum

I'm in American 4 now - can't see you. Shing Jea Monastery, right? Image:User Fox.jpg Fox (talk|contribs) 06:48, 29 April 2007 (EDT) Edit to add -- confirmed this with several others in Boardwalk Image:User Fox.jpg Fox (talk|contribs)
I'm in American D4 now I see Berry he has rank 5 -- Scourge Image:User Scourge Spade.gif 07:06, 29 April 2007 (EDT)
EDIT: You're too rich damn it >_< I want money lol -- Scourge Image:User Scourge Spade.gif 07:07, 29 April 2007 (EDT)

Confirmation- http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/2513/goldenni7.jpg Doctor 16:01, 29 April 2007 (EDT)

Saw that on guru too.:P at least people we get 1 more day but still 2.5mil is killer but 2mil would have been fair...yet again the pattern for this title made sense on why it's 2.5m...(rambling on...I'll selfdestruct)just add a "zero" to the first 3 lol.--Bane of Worlds (talkcontribs) 01:11, 30 April 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Effects of titles on drops

Is it true that these titles effect your chances on gold/green drops from monsters/chests? I wanted to know because my unlucky track is advancing faster than the lucky track :P (using lockpicks) DBZVelena | (Talk page) image:User_DBZVelena_sig.jpg 01:01, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

If it does it would require some heavy testing to prove. The arenanet official line is that your lucky title only affects your chance to retain lockpicks. --Lemming64 15:30, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Well the rumor has been going round for a while. Perhaps instead of testing we could simply ask them if they have implemented that? saves us the trouble of testing :P DBZVelena | (Talk page) image:User_DBZVelena_sig.jpg 01:07, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Next unlucky title

I got Wretched rank 5, Jinxed is the next title at 250k unlucky points. Again, no screenshot, i guess the same goes up for this one as for the Blessed by fate title about which i posted, up to you if you believe me. Berry Hoodlum

Met someone ingame with Wretched (5). He mentioned that Jinxed (6) is the next title with 250,000 losses. Got a screen of the conversation and one of the guy wearing Wretched (5) if needed.

People it helps if you sign your posts. And please post ya screenshot too. DBZVelena | (Talk page) image:User_DBZVelena_sig.jpg 20:35, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

To sign a post you have to be registered or something? I did post my in game name with it though. Well, i don't really care if you believe me or not, i am just trying to help. A bit strange though, when i wrote about blessed by fate the lucky title track did get updated. Anyway, i guess more people will follow soon that reach wretched, then they can confirm it. Berry Hoodlum

Everybody can sign their comments with ~~~~. As unregistered, your IP will be shown. On topic: Screenshots would be fine to confirm, the 3 unsigned comments are made by different IPs and could be hoax also two of them state that Berry Hoodlum made them. I also could type "Berry Hoodlum" under this comment, but I use - MSorglos (talk|contrib) 20:26, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

True, although all my IPs begin with 88.159 probably not a coincidence ;) Let me try signing 88.159.149.178 03:58, 8 June 2007 (UTC)Berry Hoodlum

I can confirm that berry is right with unlucky title. 72.11.116.63 20:41, 26 June 2007 (UTC)Nigel of Tufnel

[edit] Salvaging Runes and Upgrades

Does Salvaging runes or upgrade pieces from an item using expert salvage kit contribute to lucky/unlucky if it doesn't destroy the item/destroy the item? - User:Invincible Rogue

Nope, it does not, although it would make sense in my opinion. -- CoRrRan (CoRrRan / talk) 22:38, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A Charmed One?

This is probably just a coincidence but I feel like saying it anyways. The first rank in the Lucky title may be a reference to the show Charmed, as it is displayed as "Charmed (1)" and during the show the sisters are commonly refered to as "The Charmed Ones" or "A Charmed One". Just a thought.-Broodling67 21:47, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

umm. . . Lucky Charms, anyone?--67.33.164.96 15:20, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rank 6 is max

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10120992&page=23 post #454. (84.104.182.16 12:35, 2 August 2007 (UTC))

I have not seen proof of rank 6 is the max of the lucky title on this forum. All i have seen is some people showing they have achieved rank 6 so far. As long as you don t have the mousepointer on the title when you make your screeny, you can not see if a certain rank is the max of a title. Nice thread though :D. Silencio 06:06, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
You cán see its the max. The bar is full, look at the treasure hunter above it! (84.104.182.16 21:00, 12 September 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Point name change

i would just like to point out that the points of these titles are tickets won and lost i think they should change it to lucky and unlucky points because it would make more sense seeing as you can get the points in more then one way then the game. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:75.165.112.222 .

Yea, but when it comes to textual changes, ArenaNet are usually slow about it, if at all. As I recall, it was something to do with the needs for localization and internalization. -- ab.er.rant sig 10:28, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Honor

It sais it can be displayed, it doesn't say when, does that mean its the first one?90.240.114.176 10:24, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

It requires rank 2 to be displayed, as it is listed on the "Honor" page itself. Yukiko Image:User_Yukiko_Sig.png 10:45, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
put that into the article just because its something people might wanna know. 76.238.24.203 05:13, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Calculation

I added the 14k plat calculation, as calculated by: 250000pts*(1 key kept/250 points)*(1 chest/0.65 key kept)*(1 key bought/(1+0.65) chest opened)*1.5k/key bought. -- Alaris_sig Alaris 21:40, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, 14K would be great if Max title was 250,000. But, ya gotta add a zero to get the real max which is 2,500,000. Sooooo when we redo the math with the same equation and the multiplier 2,500,000pts you get, yep you guessed it, 140K. I changed the Notes section to reflect this recalculation. I'm not a mathematician either, really quite bad with that side of my brain, but I also think this equation fails to address the increase of probability with the increase in the title. I dunno?--67.33.164.96 00:40, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Check those calculations again. Just using keys at 50g each, it would cost 500k to open the required 10,000 chests, and lockpicks are much costly than keys for lower-grade chests until you reach a very high retention rate. I'm not sure what you're doing with some of the middle of your equation, but I came out with a much larger number. 2500000 pts * (1 chest/250 points) * (.35 pick/1 chest) * (1.5 g/1 pick) = 5,250,000g Taking into account increased retention chance per tier:

50000 / 250 * (1-.65) * 1500 +
50000 / 250 * (1-.67) * 1500 +
150000 / 250 * (1-.69) * 1500 +
250000 / 250 * (1-.71) * 1500 +
500000 / 250 * (1-.73) * 1500 +
1500000 / 250 * (1-.75) * 1500 = 3,978,000g

and furthermore, if buying picks from players at 1,250 each, multiply the result by 5/6. In addition, each rank of the Treasure Hunter title will further reduce the total price by 450,000g for 1500g picks or 375,000g for 1250g picks. --Thervold 22:40, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Note the difference between "Xk plat" and "Xk g". So far there are 3 wastely different calculations here: 14 million gold, 140 million gold and ~4 million gold ... --Xeeron 23:39, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
"wastely"? Did you mean "vastly"? :P -- ab.er.rant 04:11, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Unlucky

Is it confirmed that rank 7 unlucky is max and/or that "Cursed by Fate" is the actual name of rank 7 unlucky??? Does anybody have rank 6 unlucky yet??? 88.159.130.14 22:38, 19 February 2008 (UTC)Berry Hoodlum

I'm pretty sure it's been confirmed. Calor Talk 22:46, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
I haven't seen any proof of this, except from the ATS server. I myself got r6 lucky (2.7 million) and 185k unlucky points. I have my doubts if somebody has r6 unlucky yet. That's why i am asking if the r7 unlucky title is proven. Besides, it doesn't seem logical to have r6 lucky as max and for unlucky r7.88.159.130.14 10:24, 20 February 2008 (UTC)Berry Hoodlum

I would like to propose we remove the r7 unlucky until someone posts a screenshot. Im confident in the ATS test data, however, without confirmation on the live servers there is no reason to post as fact. Besides, if anyone had r6 unlucky, they would probably have been showing it off by now. 76.105.241.17 06:22, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Removing it seems logical, since this site is based on facts, not on assumptions. I posted about the blessed by fate title a while ago, then nobody believed me and didn't want to add it till they saw a screenshot and this r7 unlucky title just came out of nowhere, without any screenshots or anybody claiming to have achieved the title. 88.159.130.14 07:29, 10 March 2008 (UTC)Berry Hoodlum

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/5572/cursedbyfateex5.jpg might wanna change it back :) --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:213.118.14.36 (talk).

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