Talk:Rainbow Phoenix

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1 Real?
2 Requirements - my finds
3 Random?
4 To rezone or not to rezone...
5 Massivity
6 Growth
7 Dire Rainbow Phoenix?
8 Monument?
9 Body-blocking
10 Size
11 Do you like this pet
12 Junundu
13 GW2
14 Death Leveling
15 B-E-A-U-TIFUL!
16 Special Case: Evolving a Dire Rainbow Phoenix
17 Junundu Leveling
18 HoM
19 Still No Luck Evolving this Pet

[edit] Real?

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Is this actually for real? I've never seen it the the Hall of Monuments, and it seems to be an odd place for a charmable pet. Are there any requirements to get it to spawn? --Valshia 18:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

trying to figure that out but it isn't:

unlocking all tapestries
placing something in every monument
KobD title

from my guild only me and my GF have it that I know of... and it's only there when we enter HoM alone.. grtz -- (Tribina / talk) 19:16, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

What, if any, elite pets did you put on Fellowship? - Tanetris 19:27, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I put spider there ;-) That could be it... but it isn't.. my officer has spider up there and no phoenix... --

(Tribina / talk) 19:34, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Maybe it's post-endgame? --Santax (talk · contribs) 19:40, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Negative on that, just beat A Time for Heroes, all with fireworks and credits and stuff but no birdo --zeeZ 00:55, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

I can't get the pet to show either, I've beat the game and I've used all the 4 Tapestrys.90.229.196.238 13:19, 1 September 2007 (UTC) Whats KOBD Wow... 125.63.137.172 00:08, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

KOBD Means Kind of a Big Deal and these are the requirements to get the Rainbow Phoenix 1. All tapestries 2. People Know Me

Have to enter alone in the Hall of Monuments!!! Good Luck to the people that are going to achieve this!! Beacuse ive already got the pet and its great!!! : By Elegant Enzo

[edit] Requirements - my finds

I just beat the game, and came to HoM, alone... The phoenix was here, but when I came with a hero, it didn't spawn. Tried it a few times, and so far he only spawned when I was alone... --Torins 01:35, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Interesting, it's probably to prevent people who haven't completed the game from getting one. -- Gordon Ecker 01:52, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

not true.. there is another req.. I got the pet as soon as I visited my HoM after the release.. Wasn't even close of finishing the expansion yet ^^ removing that comment ;-) --

(Tribina / talk) 02:33, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

The current info there is still wrong, there must be another requirement --zeeZ 13:01, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

My guess is People Know Me title or a certain number of items displayed on the monuments... --

(Tribina / talk) 15:23, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

I have People Know Me, but I tried going into HoM alone and no Rainbow Phoenix yet. I'll try again when I get the last tapestry up and let you know. - Tanetris 16:26, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't think it's tied to titles or items displayed. Might be a random quest that unlocks it --zeeZ 17:42, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Okay, Rainbow Phoenix appeared as soon as I hung the last tapestry and zoned out and back in, so that's pretty definitely a requirement. I haven't beaten GW:EN yet, haven't even completed Against the Destroyers, haven't done many sidequests... As I said, I do have People Know Me. I've also beaten all 3 campaigns, that might be involved... Any other ideas? - Tanetris 22:09, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

I can report the same thing as Tanetris: All tapestries, People Know Me, GW:EN & Destroyers unfinished, (and 2 monuments empty). --Valshia 05:10, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

I have 9 titles maxed out, have beaten all 3 campaigns, and have all 4 tapestries, but no bird for me :( , So it would seem then, that the req is for the person to have People Know Me, and all 4 tapestries? Has anyone got it to show up with OUT either of those? 68.104.205.160 11:10, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

I agree the final requirement seems to be People Know Me. If someone without PKM (or the phoenix) could gain it and then confirm that afterwards the phoenix did indeed show up in their Hall it'd be wonderful. Something similar to what Tanetris did with the Tapestries. I'll try, but I'm still 3 titles off, so it might be a while. Most likely someone else will be able to sooner. Volta 15:35, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

I had some guild mates of mine try this last night. It is tied to title track as well. Have to be at least People Know Me, have all tapestry shreds up and be alone.--Cherno 15:48, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for finally clearing this up. =D -- Volta 21:13, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Not true. My Necro is PKM, had the tapestry shred and flute and whatever, but not in inventory and it still appeared. One wonders what happens if a "I have many leather-bound books" guy enters, maybe another Phoenix? I would also like to know if really PKM is required and if KOABD is not enough. --Longasc 00:10, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I misread the comment. The displayed tapestries are not shreds, but still my fault. ;) --Longasc 00:11, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I only have KoaBD but meet the other requirements. Yet no phoenix for me, unfortunately. --Volta 02:32, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Random?

Maybe its random until u find it there and then stays there till u find it --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:68.36.202.128 .

[edit] To rezone or not to rezone...

THAT is my question.

I have completed GW:EN. All the tapestries are there (only one monument currently displaying anything however). I have entered and reentered and reentered, with heroes, without heroes, even changed my secondary prof to ranger... and no pretty bird.

Got PKM?

[edit] Massivity

I just want to say WOW. Not the game, but this animal is HUGE. I'm not sure if it grows as it levels, but even at Level 5, its bigger than the guildie who charmed it... -elviondale (tahlk) 05:45, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Growth

The Phoenix does grow, my level 20 Hearty Phoenix is taller than I am, but the untamed one in the Hall is a bit shorter than me, so the amount of growth isn't much but is comparable. :) Captain Doughnut 23:11, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dire Rainbow Phoenix?

I have tried to level this thing up to 15 many times in some of the safest places I can, and have managed to raise a Dire before for other pets like a regular phoenix, yet this one stays Aggressive only at level 15... Am I alone with this problem? Does anybody have any concrete proof that a Dire with this is even possible, and not some bug? - Andrew 23:21, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

It was a bug. They fixed it yesterday I think. Readem Warning: Ignore this User if at all possible. 23:35, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

This was definitely not fixed yet, since my current phoenix was one of two attempts with the same result today, a level 15 aggressive... hmm... - Andrew 00:18, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Did you reset the name or zone in and out of town? The name doesn't update til you do. Other than that I don't see why it should stay Aggressive. According to someone else it does evolve to the next stage at level 15 but it only goes Elder instead of Dire. Would kike to see some more confirmation though Liselle Morrow 12:11, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Seems you were right, Andrew. I've tried only once, but I got the same result, a level 15 Aggressive pet. I tried resetting the petname several times as well as zoning in and out of towns, but it made no difference.

Image:User_Liselle_Morrow_Bugged_Phoenix.jpg

Seems the rumour is true and the Rainbow Phoenix really is bugged. Liselle Morrow 19:53, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

/petname Dire Rainbow Phoenix. There, fixed that problem ^_^ -elviondale (tahlk) 20:38, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Pity that doesn't fit (12 characters max remember?) ah and there is the small matter of unaffected stats.. Liselle Morrow 20:43, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Details details :p 68.104.205.160 00:37, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

I've found out what's causing these guys to fail to evolve to dire, and I'll try to get this fixed in the next update.Andrew McLeod 01:32, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

(Reset Indent) SO the bug has been fixed, but what does this mean for those who have already leveled the Phoenix to level 20 with no final evolution? Do we have to start over with a level 5 phoenix? Trobinson97 11:07, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Applaudes Andrew McLeod* Thank you ever so much for fixing this. It's been bugging me for ages. And to Trobinson, yes I think you will need to start over sadly. When my own level 15 phoenix stayed aggressive I didn't bother continuing to level it, however I did take it into AB once or twice where it died a few times. So when this update rolled in yesterday I immediately checked my pet and reset it's name: still Aggressive. Not surprising really seeing as it needs to level up to evolve. I slammed on a protective petting build and took it out until it leveled. Result: Level 16 - Elder... Still after getting a new one and leveling it up again from scratch I ended up with a nice Level 15 - Dire one :) So yes, considering it only takes about 4-5 hours to get a new one leveled, on the grand scale of things it could have been worse. Liselle Morrow 12:05, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Monument?

Does this thing get its own monument separate from the Imperial Phoenix? Nietzsche 11:51, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Currently, you get the default generic monument (animal companion)

[edit] Body-blocking

Does this pet body-block more because of it's huge size? --New.Dorling 21:28, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

I don't think so but i've got very often position lags and its size is very annoying at ha --AntiLamer 16:52, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Size

This Pet is the largest pet in the game, as it starts small, it grows rapidly

(click to enlarge image) Abbadon 15:41, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Though, it may be the largest pet in the game, there is 1 Pet that beats it in height when they are both at lvl 15+, the White Moa, its bigger than Jora!

But my friend has a Rainbow Phoenix, and we did a size comparison, seems White Moa's are taller Aerie swiftarrow 01:09, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Do you like this pet

Do you like this pet? Do you think its right to place this pet on the top of the pets - the end GW pet? I personally find it too colorfull and shiny to suit me, or my "dark" ranger, i prefer the Black Widow. Spaghetti 21:45, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Junundu

My lvl 18 agressive rainbow phoenix just turned in a junundu ^^ I have screenies, but i don't know how to upload it.

You need to have a wiki account, be logged in, then you should be able to find a "Upload file" link in the navigation to the left. You could also use a site like Imageshack or Photobucket and post it's link here, if you prefer to not register a wiki account. - anja

11:49, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

It is to big to upload ^^ Shailin 20:47, 21 January 2008 (UTC) (that was me first time)

bit late, but open the file and save it as a jpg or png... if it already is one of those, crop the picture :p Twiggie 23:19, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GW2

This may very well work as a reward-for-title mount in GW2, judging by it's size. Nicky Silverstar 22:05, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

No need for mounts when we have map travel. — Teh Uber Pwnzer 08:32, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

So you're saying it wouldn't be nice to have in explorable areas? Also, it's been said that "They even established Asura Gates in major cities to provide safe passage from city to city and promote trade." (for GW2), so I'd assume map travel gets left behind in the switch to GW2. — Galil

08:50, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Death Leveling

IS it possible to death level a dire phoenix using Lively was Mei Ling, etc? --Risus 21:52, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Lively was Mei Ling isn't a real skill. What skill are you talking about? — ク Eloc 貢 02:53, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I assume he means Lively Was Naomei. And no it doesn't work. You fail and return to outpost when you die, not res, even holding the ashpot. --Valshia 05:08, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Is there any way to death level it? --Risus 21:53, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Just train it the real way. Use this build:

Dwarven Stability and Great Dwarf Weapon are great optionals if you have your rank up. Equip a melee weapon and a shield. Go to Augury Rock and kill the Doppelganger over and over in Hard Mode. Engage the Dop at melee range, activate Whirling. It will do the same. Hold its attention while the pet slaughters with unblockable Brutal and Enraged. +396xp, takes about 45 seconds per run. Repeat until the pet gains Dire at level 15 (or continue if you want get it to 20). It's tedious but fast (2-3 hours to level 15), and a foolproof method of training any pet to Dire. I've done it many times. Arshay Duskbrow 22:14, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] B-E-A-U-TIFUL!

This animal is great! the looks are just so legendary and beautiful!!!!(71.210.61.233 20:52, 19 April 2008 (UTC))

[edit] Special Case: Evolving a Dire Rainbow Phoenix

A Dire Rainbow Phoenix is a special case. It cannot be death leveled because in order to tame it, one has to be the ONLY one in the party while inside the Hall of Monuments. When the Rainbow Phoenix kills you inside the Hall you must Return To Outpost. The NPC's inside the hall will not resurect you (they will heal you though).

The first thing to know is that there is no risk of loosing the Rainbow Phoenix, so if you fail to evolve an Agressive Rainbow Phoenix (at level 11), just give your Phoenix to a Pet Tamer and go back to the Hall of Monuments to tame another.

You can use the Standard Pet Levelng methods discussed here to begin training your pet Rainbow Phoenix. Once the pet reaches level 7, you may begin using other methods for rapid advancement.

Assuming a People Know Me title and access to all campaigns, a method that works well is to set your skill bar with this template [OgASY5LT/GehcG8GrSripGbG]:

Using Normal Mode for levels 7-9 and Hard Mode afterwards, kill the Doppleganger (Augury Rock (Mission)) over and over again. Since the mission transports you to the The Dragon's Lair, it is convenient to buy 2X XP Rampager scrolls there. Use these to double the earned mission XP. To maximize the pet's ratio, target the Doppleganger, lock the pet's mode to Fight and walk away from the fight (letting the pet do all the fighting). Use Dodge to speed up the tedious walk at the begining of the mission. Mission Entry to Entry time is less than 1.5 minutes.

To speed up evolution, immediately after leveling up, run the Augury Rock mission 8 times using the 2X XP rampager's scrolls. Afterwards, use the Junundu method (below) to rapidly move to the next level. Repeat mission just after each new level to assure proper ratios. If the pet has not been marked as Aggressive by level 12, the pet has not been trained properly, start all over.

(My thanks to Arshay Duskbrow for the Doppleganger idea and the base skills.)

AunweeOfTheNiaad 22:08, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Forgive me, but I believe my skillbar and method is better. You must tank the Doppelganger's attacks yourself, or the damage-given-to-damage-taken ratio for the pet may be compromised. The Dop's attacks do quite a bit of damage, and this damage still "counts" for evolution even if it's mitigated by Call of Protection, Otyugh's Cry and so on. There is no need for Heal as One at all. A Feral+Enraged+Brutal combo will have the Dop dead in about 15 seconds. Whirling Defense will enable you to hold out that long. If you must have a run buff to make the walk less tedious, well...you're running a pure Beast build, so why not simply use Run as One? Also, Junundu Leveling will result in an Elder pet, because the pet is not doing any damage. Arshay Duskbrow 19:55, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Junundu Leveling

This method levels up a pet quickly. First be careful to only do this with a pet that has already fought well from levels 5 through 7. If attempting to evolve a dire pet, make sure to let the pet fight in an appropriate area for its level (as soon as a level has been newly attained) to assure a proper training ratio.

In Hard Mode, enter the Sulfurous Wastes from the Gate of Desolation with a lean team of heroes (3 or 4 at most, the less the better). Enter the Junundu. The pet will "die". This is OK since it is not really dead, and it will gain experience from all kills. This "death" does not count against it. Go on a killing spree on the southern parts of the area. You can earn Lightbringer points while you are at it. Normally one or two runs of the southern area "circle" will level up your pet. Entry to Entry, each run takes less than 20 minutes. AunweeOfTheNiaad 22:29, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

is there another similar place in which I can do this techique Tycars125 20:06, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Anywhere there are Junundu available.. after all, it's called "Junundu leveling"... -- ab.er.rant

02:59, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] HoM

Can you display this pet in the hall of monuments? Or just cap it there? Goody 11:54, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

You can display it in the hall but it will have the default pet statue(the one with the bear,wolf and lynx). If you want to put a phoenix there, you need to get the phoenix after the last mission in Cantha. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:194.1.130.37 (talk).

[edit] Still No Luck Evolving this Pet

I've read everything above, and all the articles on Dire Pet evolution on this wiki and the wikia site. I'm using the following build for my pet to quickly solo the Frost Worms outside Boreal Station for 396 XP each in hard mode: OgASY5LTySriehnGcGbGqS/G

Now, I've read a lot of comments in which people talk about how evolving a dire rainbow Phoenix should be as easy as any other pet, but I've read far fewer comments from individuals who actually own their own dire Rainbow Phoenix. I'm not interested in speculation, or input from people who don't have a dire Rainbox Phoenix. If you do have one evolved to dire, can you please provide any information on what, specifically, you did to evolve it? I understand that there was, at one point, a bug that prevented dire evolution. Since that bug has been fixed, one ought to be able to evolve a dire rainbow phoenix relatively easily - but it's just not working for me. Ninjatek 18:35, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Disregard my above plea for help. It finally worked. I think I corrected something I was doing wrong. Ninjatek 18:58, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

That's good, because I was about to nag you for not following my extremely detailed and specific directions posted above. <smirk> Arshay Duskbrow 22:29, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

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