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Gamer Points

I'm not sure, but I think I got rewarded Gamer Points after I reached 25 wins. Could someone confirm this for me? I'll let you know after I've had a streak again. BlazeRick 14:36, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

no... UnleSs a bug 194.252.105.29 21:37, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Are you a monk interested in RA?

I think that pretty much speaks for itself. --Gammastar 21:11, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Guardian is bad in RA. Misery 21:36, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Well, I do see variants in place of that skill, I will admit. However, I also see it very much as well. My point was just that 95% of monks in RA use almost every skill in this build. --Gammastar 21:39, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

I rarely see Veil any more, Signet of Rejuvenation is far more common. 61.69.199.123 09:01, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Fun

Ive been recently having quite fun with a beast mastery build in RA... It seems to do the trick quite nicely because sometimes people forget about me and target my pet when i'm the real threat.

I use BHA along with a pet and IAS for the both of us. It is Super Good. Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә ѕνәи Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 23:03, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

This is a mess

Random Arenas is a mess. It's not the balance issues, it's the people. There is a ludicrous amount of disrespect for no reason. Disrespect against people and against the format of play. Thanks to brilliant ideas on Anet's part, RA has seen an influx of miserable people. People leaving before the gates open, people leaving after you win, monks leaving from good teams (it doesn't take that much to get 10+ if you have a healer, unfortunately the glowy-hand monks feel the need to have an HA caliber team). Teams resigning-out a second after the gate opens. People who rage if you're not fresh off of PvXwiki, people who rage in general. I've had some rit healer report me for leeching after i had spent the last eight minutes trying to knock off someone in a three healer team. I've had some shitter rage at me because my warrior didn't have a spear/shield set. I was playing an Enraged Smash that didn't really need pre-built adrenaline. You're gaurunteed to see "PvE scrub" if you're not running one of the ten meta builds or if you're wearing pve armor that isn't Full Obi/Glowy Hands/Blindfold/Voltaic/Tormented Shield. No matter what you're playing there's bound to be someone who will chew you out if you don't display PvP experience equivalent to that of a maxed out Hero.

The irony of it all is that it's Random Arenas. It's not Team/Codex/GvG/HA, it's not a serious format. Unfortunately, thanks to title grinding and the removal of TA, it is forced to be a serious format. RA is the only avenue through which one can gain Gladiator points. Gladiator is still hailed as "experience". So the baddies who couldn't cut it in 8v8 and screwed around in TA are now running amok in RA. Now that things are this way, RA is just a shittier copy of TA, where you can't pick your meta-team unless you try to synch. It's hard even to have any sort of fun because there are so many dick-heads on the loose.

Damn Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә ѕνәи Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 22:57, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Welcome to Guild Wars, on a more serious note, welcome to the internet. Tidas 05:36, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, I've been enjoying my stay. Now if you'll follow me I'll show you the way to Intelligent Discussion land. Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә ѕνәи Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 14:37, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

I have to agree... I've taken my warrior to RA... unless your weilding an axe with a max damage build (or in rare cases a knock lock hammer) with very little consideration for hex's (alot of those), Conditions (hello blindness), or self heal then prepare for a hail of insults... Get on a team without a monk and prepare to die because people have to rig their skills anticipating a monk... Get on a team with two monks and prepare to wait for the round to timeout (or watch as both your awesome monks leave)... sheesh... RA became the way it is cause of what you said, title grind... and people learnt that if they had a healer they could max their builds to damage but without a healer they fail fast (to get another chance to find a monk)... Unless they force your slots to contain certain builds people (hello codex) will grind title using the best meta they can find... MrPaladin † talk 15:07, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Yeh, pretty much, the time inbetween games isn't long enough to discourage just rerolling as it were until you get the perfect match up, and of course it doesn't help that glad points are only awarded should you reach 5 wins, meaning theres no incentive for the title grinders to stick around in a group for anything less than that. Tidas 16:38, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Anet needs to put their foot down and make dishonorable really long. If the system can differentiate a disconnected user from someone who maps out, what reason is there not to have a huge dishonor hex for leavers? I'm sorry Anet deleted half of the PvP community but that isn't a ticket to be a miserable person in an arena where things shouldn't be miserable. Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә ѕνәи Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 20:33, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Yep, Dishonor system has never really been enough... Theres alot that could be done to rework the RA or rework how Glad Title is awarded (ducks the incomming blows)... If you were forced to stick it out with the random teams or face the penalty of not being able to be in RA then more people would start adjusting their builds to be a little less Maxxed out in favor of a little more self sustaining... and you'll start seeing variations... but the elite will stil lfind their meta's to elite with and will still try to grow their e-peen against people they think should do as they do... MrPaladin † talk 20:44, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Welcome to Random Arenas! We are glad you've decided to spend time here at our luxury PvP arena. If you are new to the venue, here is an overview of the wonderful, unprovoked hostility and stupidity you will surely come to enjoy during your stay! Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә ѕνәи Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 00:54, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Fortunatly him reporting everyone on your team for 'leeching' gives him more dishonor points than you just got for a single report. Ironic isn't it. You might as well as just paint 'welcome to the internet' on your screenshot there. --Draygo Korvan 00:31, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Another fun example: when you roll a new PvP character and don't bother selecting a secondary profession, since the build you want to try doesn't require one, and end up with your teammates asking you to leave before the match has even begun. If you refuse to leave, they will leave instead... after you help them win. *facepalm* Anyone who thinks that a build with a secondary is always superior to a build without one would do well to remember Hamstorm. --Wormwood 00:48, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

If you have no secondary profession it means this is your new character so it's highly probable that you are new to pvp.

Another Problem

Seems people like to IWAY much. We all know that only lv20 chars may enter PvP and not below, but Pets that are below CAN be brought into PvP, theres no reason to play bad, only "team organized" can prevent this, and Random Arena's can't because of all the noobs, please fix this that if they bring pets, the pet MUST be lv20. (Would also prefer if you fix something so the noobs won't weapon camp and have the right equipment) 62.45.219.131 14:24, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Trolls Nest

This place is nothing more then a nest for Trolls and Major A--holes. You cant go in without someone saying its the monks fault of flipping out about saying "Hi". when i first started it was a peaceful and fun loving community but now....its nothing more then a mental facility. I love Guild Wars but seriously people its only a game, calm down and play nicely. 71.109.112.157 07:24, 23 July 2010 (UTC) GasMaster

It's actually ArenaNet's fault for making RA the only source of Gladiator points. It can't be relaxing anymore, it's serious business. elix Omni 07:35, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

It was like that while TA was around tbh, people are just generally pissed off when they play GW. I wonder why? -- Tha Reckoning 15:44, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Dishonorable Combatant System, Resign-Denial, moar Dishonorable Combatant System, /report-abuse, and yet moar Dishonorable Combatant System, Dual-Monk stalling/grieving/laming, ow8! ... moar Dishonorable Combatant System, bad players, [take a wild guess...] YEP!, Dishonorable Combatant System, anti-melee overload, yeeeaaah.... --Ulterion 00:59, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

A Frustrating Glitch

so i was in RA just now, my first match i joined a team that had 9 consec already, we kicked total ass and went all the way to 25 wins, however i was only at 16 wins and still got kicked back to town with team. not only is the 25 win rule stupid, its broken. somebody should note this you think? The Only Warrior 10:52, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Just got 25 wins, with 1 win ahead of everyone in my party... They told me that if I left immediately after 25 wins, and they would be able to continue and get their 25. They got their 25 after I left.... but Is this necessary? was this ever fixed?? 71.239.152.236 16:56, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Make it like this;

Always in group with retarded autists. For casters when in RA, if you want to cast enchantments the player must have a 40/20/20 or else the enchantment fails. When casting spells that target foes they must have a 40/40 set else it fails, people need weapon(spear prefer)/shield for hp, and give them a high set also, only lv20 pet MAY enter and NOT below, people with non-sec prof are NOT allowed, fix this you fucking Anet, you remove TA, make this fucking RA PLAYABLE. Melee (not ranged) needs spear/shield, vampiric x / shield and any others when it's a must, STOP THE NOOBS, either this or RANKED DISTRICTS. 62.45.154.72 10:13, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

lol. Yes, having people camp their 40/40s will help improve their skill level. Forcing them to choose a secondary with no skills in it will make their build better. Misery 10:16, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

You utter autist pay attention instead of dreaming in your own world, I also said spear/shield set and 40/40 WHEN CASTING SPELLS, and sec prof is good even though no skills used, so your opponent think you have (example) Me/W, people might think you block while you dont have anything. 62.45.154.72 11:51, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Your visions of an RA are completely unrealisitc. People are incapable of correct weapon swapping now. If you forced them to be in a 40/40 when casting spells they would never swap out of their 40/40. In fact, this is what many people do now, sitting in their shield set is far better. You said they had to pick a secondary, not that they had to pick a sensible secondary. You'll see Me/Mo, not Me/W. I would contest that you are dreaming in your own world. Thanks for the personal attack though, your tears are delicious. Misery 06:37, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Fail less please and pay more attention, "People are incapable of correct weapon swapping now" I said stop dreaming in your own world maybe that will allow you to click once in a while. This game exists for 6 years and you can't weaponswap? Unlike others with a simple click. People weaponcamp with staves and not even 40/20/20 staves even WRONG attributed staves and they keep casting every single attribute spell they have with their shitty stave, I bet you're just like one of them stop ruining the game, people need to learn how to play, there's no reason to play bad for yourself or your team, you should only spear/shield when getting target/spiked or running around like a fag and doing nothing. 62.45.154.72 12:04, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. You need reading comprehension lessons. Misery 06:30, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

I will give you one piece of advice though. Learn how to play the game correctly, find other people who can, form a guild team, play GvG. Then you will no longer have problems playing with terrible people who cannot weapon swap "ruining your game". Misery 06:33, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

We're talking about RA and there is no more TA thanks to Anet, so people needs to learn how to play like you, there is no more organisation learn what meta is and what you should carry as your profession so you can actually help in RA besides being an autist like you. C'mon give me that other personal attack, then you're attacking me fuck these rules and fuck autists. 62.45.154.72 15:10, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

I find it difficult to take anyone seriously when they take RA seriously. I'm flattered that you think people need to learn to play like I do. I admit it would be nice if your average warrior in RA could qknock or if monks knew to cast less predictably and not get WoH dshotted, but not everyone will ever reach my majesty. If you force them to use a 40/40 to cast a spell, they will never swap out of that set. If they can only cast spells from the attribute line their caster gear is from, their builds will only contain spells from one attribute line. You will actually make them worse. Keep on raging against the system though. I'm sure you will change something, despite making your suggestion in the incorrect namespace, making it legally inaccessible for the live team. Misery 16:15, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

The reason RA exists is for new PvPers and people new to the game to just practice 'casual' PvP to just get a taste of it. Same with the CM's. I don't PvP seriously anymore, so I don't expect serious builds in RA, FA, JQ or AB... yeah it's annoying when there are bad players and you lose the match, but you can't make random people play better. Also stop calling everyone autistic... it's basically a PA. --Lania 16:53, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi, there are no more good or decent players more in this game. Thanks! InfestedHydralisk 17:08, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

RA reeks of trolls, stance-whores, anti-melee hex junkies, blind-overusing lamefags, and retarded, autistic scrublets lacking common sense and skill in every way possible while using the most inferior, damage-lacking, utility-deprived builds ever conceived for RA. --Ulterion 02:50, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

People like this are exactly the reason why my monk always has an offensive build. The only thing that needs to be fixed in RA is what kind of skills you must take. A bit like Guild wars 2. Everyone should have a heal skill. I don't mean Res, but Heal. At least something that ensures that everyone has some sort of self sustainment, or something that helps the party. Although it might give away too much randomness, I dunno I suppose we're all left to wait for GW2, or waiting until people realize that you can kill the other team. Leaving a match, you don't get to play for 10 minutes. (including counting time logged out, some people just have to go and do stuff, you know) Anyone idle for 2 minutes, gets kicked and the same penalty. Or perhaps 5 minutes. That will teach people to simply leave and waste your time, when you just want to fight the other team and actually play instead of join leave join leave join ah monk let's play.. fail.. and again and again. -.- (Frizz 23:38, 9 January 2011 (UTC))

What about dchop? Can I take dchop as my heal skill? I mean, if I dchop Rodgort's or Invoke or Esurge, I'm preventing more than what Healing Signet heals for – while also doing damage, not standing around for two seconds, not having -40 armor, and disabling the skill (so I'm basically healing everyone else, too). In fact, if I Agonizing Chop or Shove Rodgort's, I'm doing almost the same thing! Of if I land Bull's, I'm also *pretty much guaranteeing* that I can Shove/int something while also removing them from the game for 3 seconds, so that counts as damage prevention healing, right? And Frenzy lets me dchop build more dchop/achop for mor ints; 50% more dchop is like 50% more "heal" on my bar! Then there's Rush, which lets me (1) actually hit stuff and (2) avoid damage! And, of course, there's res sig, but that's more valuable than any self-heal, isn't it?

I suppose I can drop Dismember, if none of my other skills count as a "real heal"? — Raine Valen 20:03, 27 Apr 2011 (UTC)

Fix RA syncing

So people that actually play random teams have a chance to get the maximum points without meeting a sync they should fix it in a similar way to costume brawl. Every match the team should be reshuffled to ensure at least one person from the original team is removed. Either that or do what someone suggested earlier and merge small districts. This whole problem is ruining RA for regular players that want to get glad points.

I agree. Players should get random teammates even if they win so that everyone gets an equal chance. The way RA is currently, is teams staying together when they win, and since they win, that means they are good team, likely better than a fresh team. Teams who get lucky having all 4 pro players with a monk stay together until they lose, which has a low chance. In other words, your teammates should be randomized for EACH battle. 99.238.104.105 10:54, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

If this is implemented you will never be able to get 5 wins.--83.82.62.210 10:56, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

L2P much..?--83.25.204.77 17:01, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Gj Anet NOT

You made RA into a PvE fest, now even PvE scrubs think they can earn glads and are invading RA like parasites, you guys disgust me, way to go for making the ra community more bad than it was before +. 62.45.222.2 18:31, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Be patient. 90% of the PvErs will play for less than a week before giving up. The 10% that remain will do so because they are less bad. — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 18:44, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Due to how RA is designed it encourages bad playing. Previously Unsigned 00:12, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

I agree, it has good players carry the bad ones and make them feel good, but all the good players then leave groups and leave noobs wondering why and just have them going again. To get 25 it is almost necessary to sync. 98.203.174.102 15:27, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

No, you're just bad. I was bad, and I still got plenty of 25 runs. I didn't specialize in playing a single class or anything, and the game was even less dumbed down when I still played. Idk how many easy runs I got to 25 running bsurge bars, seeping wound sins, and m/b distortion. It's easy, you just need to chill and realize that RA is the lowest of the low in pvp. -- Tha Reckoning 04:34, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Far as I've seen (and I play RA quite a bit), getting 25 just gets more and more rare as veteran people either give in and start to sync or just walk away from RA in disgust at all the tools who download a meta template and proceed to openly admit they can't handle the game on its own terms. There are far more stacked teams to fight against, and far more sadly unable new players who learn its not worth it way before they start getting better. Worst, anyone who knows anything about how low and how pathological MMO players often are could easily have seen this coming and not killed off TA. The only upside is that smashing obvious sync teams with odd randoms is about as satisfying as it gets. 75.158.134.214 06:52, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

first off to OP, you are a moron, and even sound like a scrub talking like that, RA is the lowest of the low, because this is where ANET planned for "NEW TO PvP" players to learn PvP to progress to the harder PvP, TA use to be the second step up(hence chosing ur party), codex now is expected to fill the shoes of TA in some weird ANET mind thought, and HA is an obvious step up from all the above, and GvG was meant to be the elite of the elite, etc etc, basically that is why u had to do all that PvP in early GW to have a guildhall, cus by then u know who's good, u rank ur guild up with them and smash in GvG....HB(my favourite..HERO BATTLES) was an obvious im good with MY OWN heroes and can beat your heroes stradegy battle, and to bad i didnt get into this in time before it was snatched away from me, i was so close to r1, and it did take skill to HB some people, alot of PvE scrubs were just delicious farm candy, but the feeling when u had a good fought back and forward heroe battle and winning u felt like a king becaus eyou did that ALL ON YOUR LONELY...so in comparison to all PvP i stated above, RA is the learners ground, so deal with it, or get out the learners ground...oh also alot of these PvE scrubs you talk about, have done all PvE(like me) and are trying to transition into full time PvP, i got r1(32 fame) in HA 2 days ago learning, i have 89 Gladiator points from today in RA starting from scratch...im just learning, and all u elitus that tell people to leave..GTFO that match and go sync with ranks of ur level in a alliance/guild, cus as i said and STATED by ANET many MANY times, RA is the scrub learners area..deal with it, its the way the games intended, HA is also looking for more competitors shit my randomway the other night disbanded due to no 1 joining to compete, so please dont act elitus in a learners area --124.180.234.98 05:15, 30 December 2011 (UTC)AARON TELLS IT TRUTHFULLY--124.180.234.98 05:15, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

There is no 'lower' or 'higher' PVP content in any sense other than meaningless abstractions based on prejudice or rationalizations. Each PvP type is simply distinct. Also, people crying about new players in RA should realize that its equally likely a new player will end up on the other team; getting a good random team becomes more rare, but having one becomes more powerful. 70.95.68.214 08:30, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

So basically you want to kill off random arenas like codex, etc. You run off new players. Old players get bored and leave. I played 2 matches after not having played in a year. The QQ'n and leech reporting started as soon as I loaded because they didn't know me. No one complained like this a year ago. It looks like antisocial misfits have taken over the place. I don't want to bother getting back up to speed with these freaks. This is their goal most likely. They want to live in their small little vacuum of self-importance where the world revolves around them. Elitism sucks. Controlling weirdos will even whisper harass you, but they set themselves offline. Guess they won (a meaningless title?), nothing. PVP was fun a long time ago. Now it's a boring social hierarchy dominance game. Beware.98.242.93.53 07:09, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Random Arenas was always bad, even before the game died. Only the downs babies that couldn't make the cut in HA/GvG spent any time there. -Auron 07:41, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Gladiator's Arena

anyone else know about it, the whirlpool around that zone?--Nurrdllles 03:09, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Make it to where 25 Isn't the maximum amount of wins

Because TA is gone now, and syncing a 4-man team is not easy, the cap needs to be moved to a higher number. Keep the points gained after 25 the same, but change the cap to, say, 50? First Samuel Il X 22:16, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

There doesn't need to be a win cap, as long as the arena matches you against teams with similar win streaks. — Raine Valen 22:38, 12 Jan 2012 (UTC)

Easy Mechanic Balance Fix

R.A seems to be fun for a team of 3 wars and 1 range or sin or derv, an easy adjustment to the mechanics, to set it almost like codex, where you cant have more then 1 of a certain proffession on your team, it's still random, you have no idea what or who u team up with, you just dont have 2-3 of the same proffession playing, and i have been on teams where its 3-4 physical vs 3-4 perma blind spammers, and then teams of 3-4 knock lockers wreaking havoc on casters.......on a side note, to every1 bitching at new learning monks...trust me they GET better, i decided to try heal monk for the first time ever in R.A, got my team a 7 in a row win, come againt a sync team and got destroyed, but hey i was learning(yeah it wasnt that hard, but it all come down to internet/reaction speed aswell, i had it at a few points where my mnks heals were flashing at me, yeah some1 died, they were rez'd, but they werent writing "WTF?????" straight away...and as said by many people and A-net RA is the learners arena....it just needs some form of mechanics balance, but im not fussed either way, im just more sick of reading in game complaints 24/7 --124.186.169.231 12:34, 15 May 2012 (UTC)