Talk:Sliver Armor

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[edit] Initial Comment Chain

NOT Silver Armor!  :P [[U--Ʀєʟʟɑ 05:34, 25 May 2008 (UTC)ser:EMonk|EMonk]] 21:16, 9 February 2007 (PST)

I'm looking forward to EoTN when we get Glod Armor --Jamie (Talk Page) 05:36, 4 April 2007 (EDT)
You mean gold? Image:User Blastedt sig.jpgBLASTEDT 14:31, 7 April 2007 (EDT)
no I mean glod, I am hoping you did get that pun... but glod is a misspelling of gold like sliver is a misspelling of silver... only in this case silver is a misspelling of Sliver. Making a prospective skill for EoTN, Glod Armor... --Jamie (Talk Page) 16:24, 7 April 2007 (EDT)
You just killed that joke. :( --Dirigible 16:30, 7 April 2007 (EDT)
me? --Jamie (Talk Page) 16:32, 7 April 2007 (EDT)
I think a Glod Armor skill would be a fine idea, and a nice self-reference joke. Push it to have it implemented in GW2! Azo 05:26, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

what's sliver?

Slivers... like a shard of wood or metal that gets stuck in your finger and really hurts. Don't ask me how armour made of sliver does anything. Silver armour makes much more sense. =\ Silavor Image:UserSilavorSigIcon.png 07:40, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Seems fairly obvious to me: the "slivers" of earth/metal/whatever are the things that fly out for damage when you're targeted.79.75.3.84 17:16, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Wikitionary (just because it's a wiki too :P) says "A long piece cut or rent off; a sharp, slender fragment; a splinter" so I guess another name would be Splinter Armor ;) Impaled 17:35, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

One problem: if you have armor made of slivers, wouldn't you get hurt more than the enemies? Especially if you got knocked down? Just a little technicality...

I would guess the armor just has slivers sticking out of it, and isn't made out of them... Tearh 22:13, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

i think its supposed to be Slivers of metal etc whirring around you to protect you and harm attackers, like the old Dungeons and dragons "blade barrier" spell

Mabey peple are taking this whole skill a tiny bit to litraly...135.196.81.6 06:40, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

I BEEN PLAYING THIS GAME FOR 2 YEARS I JUST NOW NOTICED IT'S SLIVER ARMOR NOT SILVER ARMOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!My main character is an elementalist too, I also use earth magic a third of the time.--Ʀєʟʟɑ 05:34, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Slivers of silver swirling around, slashing those stupidly standing so close striking or shooting :P 118.92.98.226 10:48, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

It's silver. It's metal. It's SHARP. Brougt to you by the Originzation for the Promotion of It Being Magic and the Mystical Handwaver's Fanatic Orginization. --Star Weaver 22:36, 30 April 2009 (UTC)


[edit] Acquisition

Can somebody with a virgin account please check the acquisition on this skill - the SoC caps have been deleted due to its early availability. Might be a case of someone who doesn't understand the way skill trainers work. Certainly seems very early for a powerful skill. ME never done teh Ele thang and me gots UAX, so iunno :) --SnogratImage:User Snograt signature.png 20:30, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

We need a check like this for a load of skills. And who coined the term 'virgin account'? Great man, whoever did... Calor (t) 20:33, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
yeah, just lold when i read this. a funny talk page, speaking about glod armors and virgin accounts... —ZerphatalkThe Improver 16:37, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Bound_Kaichen - according to this article, this boss has it, and it's a Nightfall boss. Seems worthy of a note to me.

[edit] How does it work?

Ok, heres what I get, you have some % to block and when you become the target of a hostile spell, the nearest attacking foe is struck for x damage? "x% chance to block attacks and whenever you are the target of a hostile Spell or..." - after "or" is where I get lost.--ShadowFog 18:33, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Whenever you are the target of a foe's action, one nearby foe takes damage. Also, you have the +50ish% block. Its basically a very advanced form of Whirling Defense.--Fallen (talk) 00:53, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] notes

Rmoved it, its not undertsanble, very harmful to mms as you get a lot of incoming attacks, ???? what do you mean? That if its an it wont target the mm, youl be far away, ittl target minions Annoying And Deadly 19:25, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Exactly, when your minions die you're useless as an MM. Unless you're a bomber but thay suck because of targeting reasons. Ninjas In The Sky 18:57, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
I wouldn't say that they suck, just that they're more difficult to learn (as you say, it's all about targeting). In capable hands, though, I'd say they're quite good. --SoraMitsukai 04:39, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Srry bout crap, spelling, in hurry Annoying And Deadly 00:15, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

I guess noone ever gets olias, livia or MoW in tahnakkai temple. Ninjas In The Sky 20:21, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
um sliver will take down the minions, the mm is out of danger, so the note was pointless Shadowshock
Any ally of the MM is toast if they're the one that cops the proverbial flak, however. 150.203.19.61 04:14, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
Yes, but only heroes and henchmen do that, and you can flag/call them away. Paddymew 08:30, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Glod Armor :P

:P Halogod35 06:44, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Armor Piercing Damage

Last time I ran into an enemy using this, it did 30 damage everytime I swung at them on my warrior. Could something in the description say that it deals armor-ignoring earth damage? - Elder Angelus 15:39, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Was it a "monster variant" of sliver armor? According to the guide, the armor SHOULD block about half of the time at level 12. Unless it's actually as you infer- you take damage wether or not your swing lands a blow resulting in damage to the mob or not.
It always returns damage... And it's not armor ignoring. --Viper 13:18, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Was it a boss, or a level 28? That would account for the large quantity of damage. Krelus Derian 19:49, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] name

i was looking at the armbrace talk page and found out i have been saying this skills name wrong. sliver not silver! the skill may never be the same--Justice 23:32, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Funny. I always called it Sliver Armor, but that's probably because I first was reminded of these[1]. Paddymew 19:52, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Synergy

I'm removing the note until someone can explain precisely what kind of specific synergy this has with Ward Against Melee. Krelus Derian 19:36, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeah it doesnt exactly come to mind when i think sliver armor. Synergy is when two things mesh together better then the two individual parts add up alone. 1+1=3 ;-) Sliver Armor and Price of Failure have more synergy simply because the blocking of Sliver armor triggers price of failure and the 25%miss on price of failure helps protect you, being that you are the central focus of the monsters for the most dmg output--Justice 08:58, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] note

possible to keep it up with glyph of renewal...doesnt that apply to any 10second or higher enchant with a 20% mod? keep or remove something so obvious?--Justice 17:25, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Both are elementalist skills. That's why it's mentioned. Noctarch 16:39, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Target

I notice this almost always targets the foe with lowest % of health. So a creature at 990/1000 hp would be affected and not another creature with 200/200 health. When all are at same percentage a random foe gets chosen. I'm not 100% sure but I found out that damaging the first target almost always helps when farming -- Karasu (talk) 00:39, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Ok.. IP (74.166.91.13) just added this:
  • Sliver Armor appears to target the last foe to approach the player using it. For example, if a single enemy approaches, sliver will deal damage to that enemy. However, if another enemy approaches in addition to the first, damage dealt will change to that second approaching enemy.
Could anyone test how it really works? It's an important aspect of the skill. -- Karasu (talk) 11:13, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
From my experience, it seems the game makes a list of monsters in the zone and Sliver Armor targets them in the order in that list. If you get an AoE scatter it will change targets to stay within range, but if any of the previous targets come back it switches immediately back to them. It might be less confusing if they just nerf the damage and make it like a weak version of Whirling Defense so that it hits everything in range instead of picking and choosing. Not saying I want them to nerf it, but this skill is still close to the top of the 'how the heck does this skill really work?' list.Guildwarsrunner 07:34, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
I'm sure this can be tested easily if you have enough people, a guild hall and a mesmer-elementalist of enchanting ;-) My only problem atm is finding the people. -- Karasu (talk) 13:30, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
It's correct that it targets the last enemy to approach. It's also logical, since each time you are hit, a shard or "sliver" is chopped off your armor, and hits a foe. Paddymew 19:58, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Nerf to not work with shadowform

I think that this skill should only return damage is the attack is blocked or is hit, NOT if the attack is missed. That way it works with like obsidian armor tanks etc but it doesnt work with shadowform tanks.96.253.144.69 00:54, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

That'd be quite stupid because it'd hurt you if you blinded the attacker (or if he/she did so him/herself) Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 01:00, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
There's no need to nerf it so that it doesn't work with SF. A/E farmers with SF don't have the energy, damage output or Sliver duration of E/Me farmers, and the majority of farms involve mobs with skills that can circumvent SF.--206.51.177.28 06:27, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
This proposal is not constructive; you shouldn't be trying to attack somebody with Shadowform because no matter how many times you swing your weapon, you will always miss. People who use both Shadowform and Sliver Armor are either wasting their energy or are lucky enough to be attacked by people that ignorant. 216.167.172.160 17:37, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

never know man....theres always one noob who would be like "OMG WHY CANT I HIT HIM!!!! *KEEP SWININGING WEAPON.....DIES* OMG WTF HOW DID I DIE?" noobs come in many different sizes and flavors --Crazyejackson715 01:02, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

the word is PvE

uh to fix that problem, nerf shadow form and voila InfestedHydralisk 16:22, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Nerf Shadow For... Again.
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