Talk:Sylvari

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Contents 1 Copyright violation 2 Concept Art 3 Birth of the First Sylvari 4 Ascalon Arena 5 Who are the Sylvari? 6 A question about one of the races 7 Spoiler Tag Edit 8 Deletion / redirect 9 Concept art question, boobs? 10 Male Sylvari? 11 Sidhe? 12 Sylvari~

[edit] Copyright violation

Is it possible to delete this article and then restore it to the last clean version while retaining the edit history? -- Gordon Ecker 20:17, 25 March 2007 (EDT)

Would the last clean version be your last edit on the 21st? If so then yes. --Rainith 20:25, 25 March 2007 (EDT)

Yeah, and apparently it's been done. -- Gordon Ecker 20:40, 25 March 2007 (EDT)

Sorry, yeah, I looked at what was in the temp page and figured out the problems. --Rainith 20:44, 25 March 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Concept Art

would it be possible to get a picture of the Concept art for the Sylvari? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:71.215.152.178 .

Maybe, it's under discussion here. -- Gordon Ecker 21:53, 17 April 2007 (EDT)

Until that gets resolved, Sylvari concept art can be seen here. -- Gordon Ecker 22:54, 17 April 2007 (EDT)

I saw it stated that you may use images from the Guild Wars site itself, but I'm not exactly sure where this was. So if you can find a concept art picture on Guildwars.com to use, then by all means use it. Haku Banish 16:17, 19 April 2007 (EDT)

The copyright information is here. Unfortunately the official site doesn't have any images of the Sylvari yet. -- Gordon Ecker 16:24, 19 April 2007 (EDT)

One of those linked pictures of the Sylvari concept art looks strikingly similar to a warden [1]

[edit] Birth of the First Sylvari

Okay, is anybody else suspecting Gwen might become one? Image:Esig2.jpg Eldin 15:14, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't think so, it's been stated that there won't be any Sylvari heroes, and it's implied that Gwen is a hero, although she could just be an NPC involved heavily in the quests and missions, like Rurik, Evennia, Turai Ossa and Vizier Khilbron in Prophecies, Mhenlo and Togo in Factions or Kormir in Nightfall. -- Gordon Ecker 19:01, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

I mean in the end of the game. If you consider her like Rurik or his equivalents (Togo and Kormir), something may happen to her at the end such as her becoming a Sylvari. It's been said the birth of the first Sylvari will be at the end of GW:EN. Image:Esig2.jpg Eldin 18:55, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

That wouldn't happen to a hero who stays with you after the completion of the game. Capcom 19:06, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I forgot to mention that if she's not a hero then there's no known reason she can't become a Sylvari. Maybe the dwarves start mutating into Sylvari, that which would explain why Dwarves don't seem to be amoung Guild Wars 2's playable races. -- Gordon Ecker 23:00, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Rofl! There have been tales of pretty races mutating into ugly races (I'm not saying anything bad about the dwarves though) - like the Night Elves becoming Naga in the Warcraft storyline. The reverse would be even funnier! If Gwen is not a hero, then there is a chance of her being the equivalent of Rurik/Togo/Kormir. In which case she will either transform into a Sylvari (like Kormir's transformation), just die undramatically (like Togo), or COME BACK TO HAUNT US AS THE MORTAL INCARNATION OF THE GREAT DESTROYER (Rurik's case, minus the "great" part)! Image:Esig2.jpg Eldin 02:46, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I noticed the stony-looking dwarves in the preview video, their stony shells reminded me of coccoons, and Dwarves and the Sylvari are both associated with the element of earth. -- Gordon Ecker 05:03, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

I wouldn't doubt that, I mean, doesn't it say we fight the great destroyer in GW:EN? If so, maybe the destroyer is what's making the dwarves look like Dwarves, and when we destroy them, they turn back into Sylvari. Although, it does say in the magazine that they come upon when there is peace in the world, so maybe thats why we witness the birth of the first one, because there is now peace. Calvin 02:43, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Also the GWEN manual mentions dwarves being "Forever transformed" by this final battle vs the destroyer. Sylvari reference?

Yep, say goodbye to the Dwarves and hello to the Sylvari. Its strange though because its only shown a female sylvari and only male dwarves...sex changes? --- Raptors

I was thinking the same thing but it seems weird Sylvari and Dwarves don't seem to be similair concepts. I guess we don't know much abou Sylvari OR Dwarves yet and they are both in for a big development in GWEN. Dancing Gnome 09:58, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

I saw this "forever transformed" line of text too. Bad ANet! Everybody knows that fantasy RPGs are supposed to have dwarves AND elves (or in this case, Sylvari). The sex change concept will scar me for life. I pray the dwarves are not to become the sylvari! Dwarves FTW! Image:Esig2.jpg Eldin 15:14, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

What if the sylvarii are changed mursaat.--The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Mpjc .

No I'm 99.9% sure the Sylvari are going to be evolved Dwarves. --- Raptors

Cute Leaf Like Sylvari's equals ugly bearded useless dwarves? oh hell no Tomoko 13:07, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Raptors you are so funny :P evolved dwarves ..oh man lol, read this: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/The_Movement_of_the_World (Frizz 13:57, 30 November 2007 (UTC))

Larvae -> Butterfly? :P - BeX 23:18, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Someone made mention to the Sidhe (pronounced Shee) and quoted a game title I guess. The Sidhee are fae from Celtic lore. And all fae are evil. These creatures dont seem to have that bend to them. I think it should be struck from the article as theres no evidence its true. ~the rat~ --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:72.26.24.191 (talk).

That sentence talks about concept and probability, and is derived from what we know about Utopia (see Guild Wars Utopia#Storyline). It does not claim that the Sylvari are the same as the Sidhe of Celtic lore. It's just a little trivia note. -- ab.er.rant 02:57, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

I like how they all talk as if it's a big thing to have another race be born. How many races are there in Guild Wars now? Why on earth do they think they'd be a more appealing to play than the Tengu or Mursaat? It feels like they just threw them in at last moment as with the Norn and Asura just to sell the next game. They just don't feel important like the Charr for example. They better make my mind blow when I'm playing as them instead of making them the new elves of something. Are they suppose to be non-violent? Are we going to see some gameplay that doesn't involve fighting from the Sylavi?

Hiya, just wanna add my 2cents, Dwarves dont evolve into Sylavi. Its said that the only reason the Dwarves are few in GW2 is because when they got changed into rock they were changed both physically and mentally and most died while fighting the destroyers and that the little amount left just stand there and hardly speak. As for the Sylavi they were born from that special tree and learned their peaceful ways from that Centaurs Readings/Diary, but it doesnt say anywhere that the Sylavi will be pacifists, by the looks of things they could be the next generation of rangers.

[edit] Ascalon Arena

Anyone notice the very Sylvari-like paining on the wall?

Calvin 02:43, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

That's a mural of Melandru. - BeX 02:45, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Whoops, my mistake. But you do have to agree, it does look very much like a Sylvari... Calvin 02:00, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it does, and I'm sure they will be servants of Melandru, seeing as they are connected to nature and plants. They look more pixie like than Melandu does in her murals though - bigger eyes, more childlike, whereas the goddess herself looks like a human adult, albeit a bit green. :P - BeX 05:48, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Maybe the Sylvari will finally open up Melandru's Divine Realm!Blackie ewilson92 12:31, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

How awesome would a Melandru's Divine Realm be? Like beautiful lush forest with amazing creatures and the like. Dancing Gnome 09:59, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah - her'es hoping that all the gods have a divine realm in GW2. I badly want Melandru's realm :) Andrik Of Ascalon 16:19, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Ye, Melandru's realm should have alot of plants and fog in the air... Garden of Eternity would be a great name I think

[edit] Who are the Sylvari?

Now that ppl have completed gwen.. Who is the Sylvari?

the tree you see in the last cutscene you can find it on one of the islands in arbor bay--The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:68.47.15.113 .

The ending was lame and disapointing. It's just an unsatisfieing way to make us want to buy GW2 because it didnt answer any questions at all, only set up their new product. In fact, it felt like hardly anything at all happened in the ending aside from the transformation of the Dwarves, the "birth of the first Sylvari" wa VERY lame. You just see a tree glow, nothin more. No nature spirit, no words, no explanation, it was like a trailer glimpse, short, vague and unsatisfieing. Dancing Gnome 17:58, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

What do the dwarves transform into? I haven't beaten it yet... --- Raptors

They don't transform its just shows a tree growing and says something like new species will come and thats just about the only reference about Sylvari in the game ~ Kurd 20:35, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I agree--the unveiling of the Sylvari in Ogden's cutscene after completing A Time For Heroes was very anti-climactic. After the reading the short tease about the race in the wiki's Eye of the North article, I thought their birth would be something woven into the story of GWEN. Not as prominent in the plot as any of the three story arcs and certainly not central as the conflict between the dwarves and the Great Destroyer, but something along the lines of little signs throughout the missions that the rise of the destroyers are releasing energies that are slowly awakening something in the already magic-laden forests of the Tarnished Coast.

As it is the "birth" of the Sylvari seemed like an afterthought, almost as if development went like this "Okay we'll also use GWEN to introduce the races that are going to be playable in GW2." "Norn-Check. Asura-Check. Charr-check. Humans are a given." "Okay let's ship this expansion!" "Oh sh*t-What about the Sylvari!" "I know let's just splice it into the Epilogue's cutscene, maybe a tree growing suggestively coupled with portentous voiceover."

P.S. I'm sure it wasn't like that, but it certainly felt like it where the Sylvari was concerned. Maybe the Sylvari aren't as fleshed out as the Norn are by now, or the Sylvari are meant to be kept under wraps until their big reveal at GW2's release. Svartalve 03:06, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

I was expecting to go back to the tree and see a Sylvari related quest. But ... nothing. --Drekmonger 02:16, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps it'll be in an add-on like the furnace? *hint* *hint* Alaris 14:22, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I was also extremely disappointed in the ending of GWEN. C'mon, is that the best the writing staff of A-Net can do? Even just going with the ending everyone expected (Transformed stone dwarves clash with the Destroyers, the Great Dwarf and the Great Destroyer kill each other, and the Sylvari are born from their ashes) would have been FAR more interesting than the worthless crud they went with. How much time did they spend on that ending? Five seconds? An entire minute? Argh, forget GW2, I think I'll go check out WOW. At least they TRY to write interesting stories, even if the game is less fun imo. ~ Kailianna Firesoul 19:23, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Did you just say WOW having an interesting story? come on man, in the frozen throne ILLIDAN GOT KILLED, but you fight him in the burning crusade nonetheless, any1 see something strange here??????

dwarfs are "forever transformed" by this it means they are turned to stone dwarfs (or something like stone) except ogden who decided to stay normal. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:82.39.38.76 .

He got brutally pwnxxored in what should have been an FMV sequence, but Arthas left him to die rather than finishing him off. -- Gordon Ecker 02:54, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

The concept art shows that she is holding a wooden stick/weapon, do the Sylvari have any special abillities, skills, or weapons? I think the Sylvari will look like Avatar of Melandru, but not that leafy. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:80.61.115.39 (talk).

[edit] A question about one of the races

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What is the singular form of Sylvari?

Its Sylvari--SiDima 17:32, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, confirmed by writer Bobby Stein. --Gaile 00:31, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spoiler Tag Edit

I really don't like spoiler tags so I removed the whole "birth" thing and just stated something more encyclopedic style which to me doesn't seem too much like a spoiler and more an explanation. Nothing is really revealed anymore, just explained without any mention of the storyline. Is this still a spoiler - I don't think it is. Dancing Gnome 04:15, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion / redirect

I'd prefer to turn it into a redirect without deleting it in order to avoid attribution issues. -- Gordon Ecker 03:14, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

I think we should either leave it as a short linke with a gw2w link or redirect it somewhere related on this wiki. I still think off-wiki redirects is a bit awkward. - anja 22:17, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Concept art question, boobs?

Whenever I see the concept art pic, I always wonder why tree people have boobs, they're grown from trees and do not give milk to their infants, so they do not have need for boobs or other human-like sexual features I'd say. --Shakkara 12:09, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Random.. but i might have the answer =P maybe they dont give milk but instead... give tree sap lol never thought of tht aye? --Richi2k7 22:09, 123 February 2008 (UTC)

Cause there Humanoid? ~ SCobra 21:39, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Male Homo Sapiens have nipples but they are useless, maybe Sylvari (male and female) is the same.Fenrid Doth

[edit] Male Sylvari?

Im pretty sure well have them in GW2, but in both a lore-sense and a game sense, will there be male sylvari? All I've seen so far are depictions of females, with the exception of early "Sidhe" concept art that was originally going to be used for Utopia--Raph Talky 21:17, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sidhe?

In my opinion the Sidhe concept pictures look more like Norn than Sylvari oO LunarEffect 21:43, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sylvari~

They look pretty *-*! Before I saw the picture of the Sylvari... I always saw them as totally covered in leaves and bird-like for some reason (xDDD)