Talk:Tyria (world)

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Contents 1 Map Image Incorrect 2 Tyria (the world) 3 Tyria 250 years on 4 Is this information from the guys at Anet? 5 Demography 6 History Errors 7 Which time period would this be referencing? 8 Top Right Volcano Island 9 a thought 10 unknown Tyria(world) 11 Clean up?

[edit] Map Image Incorrect

http://guildwars.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=420217&page=14 If you look at the above link, you will find that the map is inproportional. The map on the article was also taken from the same thread. Soulwar 00:22, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm taking the map away. It is an incorrect and unofficial map. Soulwar 22:36, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

From my point of view, it's not intended to be authoratative, just illustrative of approximate locations. My opinion is that the current map, or an alternate one that is more proportionally correct, should remain as an illustrative tool - provided the label is changed to more clearly state that it illustrates approximate relative locations of the various campaign maps to each other. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 00:47, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tyria (the world)

To address off the inevitable questions on this ... back in Feb 2006 (shortly before the release of Factions), PanSola was in Lion's Arch and asked Gaile Gray (Community Relations Manager for ArenaNet) to clarify the name of the world. The answer is about halfway down this log of her replies where she says:

Gaile Gray: Tyria is, confusingly I know, the name of the continent and the world.

So it is official from ArenaNet that the world and the continent of Tyria share the same name. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 18:59, 27 February 2007 (EST)

What is the black-brown island North of the Maguuma Jungle and West of the Verdant Cascades anyway?

The map to the bottom right is "incorrect" though it is fan made because first off Jatoro Musagi (In game NPC at Kodlonu Hamlet in Nightfall) reports that he is from the South West not South. The above map on right looks to be proper based on in game lore.

I have edited this page many times citing this fact but people keep changing it. If the map exists as fan made based on lore might as well have it correct as possible.

- Goddess Hebe

Yes, I know, I've reverted your edit several times, because neither map should be taken as accurate. Also, don't leave comments on the main pages, put them only on the talk pages. I have changed your last edit and moved it to a new Notes section. -- Azazel the Assassin/talk 10:41, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Tyria 250 years on

Look at this pic, and also the one on the front of PC Gamer... Tyria looks like it's changed a bit after 250 years, to say the least. From what I can see, the Shiverpeaks have defrosted, Ascalon has recovered from the Searing, bits of Kryta and Maguuma have frozen, along with most of Kourna. --Santax 05:12, 20 May 2007 (EDT)

yeah I noticed this myself when first seeing the picture. Alot could of happend in 250 years, tyria will have most likely changed after such a long time -- Wacked 1 05:23, 20 May 2007 (EDT)

Global Warming. :) There was a thread about this on Guru a month or so ago. Sirocco 08:26, 20 May 2007 (EDT)

I think you're looking at it wrong, um.... er... I'll have to do some edits.. -FireFox File:Firefoxav.png 09:51, 20 May 2007 (EDT)

yep, Ascalon isn't even in the picture. -FireFox File:Firefoxav.png 16:29, 20 May 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Is this information from the guys at Anet?

Just out of curiosity as it seems to be. However, certain portions of the information such as the Forgotten being created by an older pantheon of Gods could easily be speculation. So..Yes? No? Gmr Leon 17:08, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

It is speculation, but it has good backing. Tyria is the first world created by the current pantheon, there are worlds confirmed to be older than Tyria, the Forgotten were summoned to Tyria and not created there, so therefore they came from an older world. If they came from an older world, then they were created by an older pantheon. --Santax (talk · contribs) 09:10, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

You have a good point there, I just had a slight of hope that Anet may have decided to insert bits of lore on to the official wiki. That way if they modify older pieces they need only update it on here rather than reprint the Manuscripts with the newly altered information. Thanks for confirming my thoughts on it being speculation though Santax. Gmr Leon 17:15, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Demography

Just a heads-up to the removal of the Mursaat. It is unknown as to whether they were one of the first races on Tyria, so that information was inaccurate. Gmr Leon 22:21, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Actually..I just read that section in its entirety, and should it even remain there? It's rather vague and contains many misspelled words. Gmr Leon 01:45, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] History Errors

This is incorrect: it states that Abbaddon introduced magic. It is official lore that at least the 5 gods introduced magic. I'm sure this should be changed. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:198.174.36.158 (talk).

The lore that says the 5 gods gave magic was a "cover up" which was clarified with Nightfall's release. What happened is that Abaddon gave magic too freely, which caused the war, and he disagreed with limiting it (or something of the like) and he was punished for his "rebellion" - which was him being put into the Realm of Torment. Along with that, the 5 other gods removed all knowledge of the 6th god - Abaddon - from the world of Tyria. This knowledge was pulled from the Japanese Manual/site or something, if I remember correctly. -- Azazel the Assassin/talk 22:37, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Which time period would this be referencing?

This page seems to be describing a mix of Guild Wars 2, Eye of the North, and original guild wars campaigns time periods, which time period do you think the world should be described in?Tambora 18:47, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

As of now, the GW1 timeline should be spoken about from an EotN standpoint or even just after it, since that is the 'current time' in terms of the actual game. Although that's just my oppinion, I'm not an official when it comes to wiki policy. Silavor 04:04, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

The page is written from a standpoint of just after the end of Eye of the North. --Santax (talk · contribs) 12:10, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Top Right Volcano Island

Hmm, wonder what that could be? Sister to the ring of fire perhaps?

[edit] a thought

seeing as there is a body of water north of Tyria (continent) and assuming there is one o nthe other side of Magguma jungle would it not be entirly possible to take a VEERY long boat ride around them to reach Cantha--99.19.116.228 20:04, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Where does it say there is a body of water north of Tyria and on the west (I assume you mean west by "on the other side" of the maguuma? And as for the traveling (would probably be both walking and boat riding), it would depend on if Tyria is a globe and not a flat world. Which is still unknown (though implications say it is a globe). -- Azazel the Assassin/talk 22:29, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

we know there is water north of tyria(north of Kryta) but we dont know if its open or if its blocked by somthing also i cant remember were but i do know someoen said it was round like a globe, but also he means there may MAY be a sea or somthign on the other side of magguma, seeing as theres ALOT of Tyria yet to be uncovered (this leads to what may be an explorers expansion were we get to see a WHOLE new totaly unctouched part of Tyria explain that thoguht later but makes a little sense providing that the water north of Kryta is open to the sea/ocean as for Magguma i belive its COMPLETELY under centaur control making it a VERY risky trip to march though it to see if there is a coastline on the other side(though we can assume there is unless its one giant landmass--Lord randy taylor 20:49, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

i agree with randy --adrin 21:22, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

see im nto as crazy as everybody thinks--Lord randy taylor 21:26, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Regarding "as for Magguma i belive its COMPLETELY under centaur control" That is a tricky subject. The Maguuma and Shiverpeak/Modniir centaurs look very similar - almost the same looks, just different armor for the most part. So it is hard to say if they originate from the Shiverpeaks, or the Maguuma, or from Elona. What is known is that in GW2, the centaurs are getting pushed further and further west. What is also seemingly prevailant is that Kryta is former Tengu territory. It is possible Kryta was once both Centaur and Tengu territory, until the Humans pushed them out. -- Azazel the Assassin/talk 21:53, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

where the centaurs are from means little in this matter but that they hold the jungles WEST of kryta meanign Magguma, and that there is possibly water on the other side of Magguma and that the KNOWN body of water north of Kryta(look at the map) may border a larger body of water capable of leading to other continents and essentily Cantha, but there are 3 bodies of water north of kryta, one in North kryta province wich we know to be a lake, the great saltwater lake knows as Giants Basin wich beign saltwater must have a conection to the open sea via the river north of it ending in a delta therefore open water beyond Kryta is assured but water west of tyria bordering Magguma has yet to be determined--Lord randy taylor 22:05, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Actually, to the part of your statement that I quoted, where centaurs originate does matter. You said the west of the Maguuma would be filled with centaurs - if the centaurs come from the east, that is not likely to be the case. Also, Tyria!= Inland waters could be saltwater in Tyria for all we know. Just like how Seas and Oceans can be fresh water for all we know. -- Azazel the Assassin/talk 22:46, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

let me rephrase Magguma is filled with the centaurs that are there now as in the oens currently inhabiting it, and the Giants basin has access to a ocean--Lord randy taylor 22:48, 20 June 2009 (UTC) also provided that the water north of kryta (the larger one yet to be named) not giants basin could wrap around and may be the body of water that forms a coast for maguma not saying it is buy it could be, and we arent talking baout the origin of thoose centuars but we know they hold msot if not all of the farreaches of maguma jungle, the centuars in conrtol of Maguma are ALREADY THERE, so there origin in this matter means litle, this is about the unknown reaches of the map and what lies there, i think that the Jungle continues for a little bit then goes into a coast line with access to the seas of Tyria being the Unending Ocean--Lord randy taylor 22:55, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] unknown Tyria(world)

continue speculation on whats outside what we know of Tyria post what you think is there show logic in it and Azazel no origin of Centaurs here. I think that beyond Magumma is water conected to the bay north of Kryta(beyond Giants basin) and that that water holds a route of p[ossible saftey to Cantha and anything in between on the other side of the world, now knowing Tyria as a whole is a shpere we can assume Far shiverpeaks aere close to the northern pole, and that Cantha is either in the middle or down south now think if EoTn introduced us to the polar regions then the water north of Kryta( lets refer to it as the Unknown seas for the time being) is going to lead south aroudn the other side of Tyria, so spin aroudn and weve got unknown Tyria that wich has yet to be put in to the game, unknown continnts, dangers, and whatever lies there, potential access lies through the Unknown sea(the bay north of Kryta with the volcanic Isle in it) so if this is the case we may have a route to Cantha( of which im sure the Canthan story involves a rebellion agaistn the tyranical emperor jsut a guess) and Elona(again pockets of resistance that will involve the story) btu i belive that part of the story in GW2 will partly involve exploration of the other side of Tyria (the oposite hemisphere) if it indeed esists--Lord randy taylor 23:48, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Clean up?

I have read the article and I dont know why this article needs a clean up. I find It rather good and think of putting it to the feature project page. Please tell me why this page needs a clean up--Wysth 20:51, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

As per here, articles, apparently, are not to be written from an in-game view. Though it is interesting as I wrote the whole of this article, the Lore article, the Kurzick, Luxon, and other articles with an in-game view in mind. I still do not see the issue: "we are not here to advertize and make things more interesting though, we are here to document the game" - why not both? I suppose the discussion should be there, though, not here (keep it in one place). -- Konig/talk 21:37, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Ok I left a post on that page Also I'm gonna propose it to be featured.--Wysth 19:18, 1 December 2009 (UTC)