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Contents 1 =o 2 sigs on guild pages 3 Blocked for a day... 4 =P 5 My RfA 6 =( 7 Are you serious? 8 Category:Gives Luxon factions 9 Headers 10 Devils Whisper Contact table 11 /wave 12 like 13 re *gasp* 14 In regards to User talk:Isaiah Cartwright#Goren is married!?... 15 Maps for Quests 16 asfd 17 GWW:FORMAT 18 Revert warring 19 Copyvio Image:Update game lnk2.jpg 20 Warrior Test 21 9/11 thing 22 Your Userboxes 23 buying your 24 silentassassinbjk and i am your conscience 25 silentassassinbjk and i am your conscience 26 Help 27 Kingdom Hearts Logo 28 Shing Jea landmarks 29 I know what you did last summer 30 Rare Skinned Rune 31 i will finally be able to 32 Bureaucrat 33 LFP 34 Thanks for the welcome! 35 Userboxes 36 Thanks for the welcoming me :) 37 Last name... 38 Guru tracking cookie 39 Your user page 40 Lemming's reconfirmation 41 Show preview 42 C++ 43 Oh god 44 Emily's Talk page 45 just to tell you 46 Image:Eloc.JPG 47 ? need more info on 48 The Wing's Axe 49 :/ 50 Game mechanics 51 Subst 52 Image:Dishonorable bug.jpg 53 The hell? 54 hrhr 55 =D 56 Hey 57 Master Of Ether 58 LadyTemp 59 Pascal 60 cute 61 For those who have this page on their Watchlist or just patrol Recent Changes... 62 did j00... 63 ... 64 Oh noez! 65 Cleanup tag 66 Userboxes 67 heya 68 Guild pages 69 HaHa 70 archive

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Hey Eloccc, whatsup budddyyy? Vengeance Signet 03:01, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Hiya. Be sure to vote for in the Bureaucrat Election.--§ Eloc § 03:02, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

omg, yes, I will, <3 (overuse of commas ftw) How exactly do I vote? xD Vengeance Signet 03:03, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I'll tell you on the 13th.--§ Eloc § 03:04, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

You don't. Voting in the election requires 100+ non-user and non-guild namespace edits. You don't even have 50 total =\

If you did, however, you'd click the link in the site notice at the top and follow the instructions at Guild Wars Wiki:Elections =) MisterPepe talk 03:05, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Simple enough, all they have to do is get 100+.--§ Eloc § 03:06, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Pepe I don't need that tone =( Vengeance Signet 03:06, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

You're right, of course - I should have used more smilies =P Sorry about that ^_^ >.< ^^' ~_~ MisterPepe talk 03:08, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah the smileys make it look awesome =D xD =) And more friendly =O =( =X and more exciting! Vengeance Signet 03:09, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

KIRBY! <(_'.'_)>--§ Eloc § 03:09, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

(°.*(Q(°.°O) ? - Y0_ich_halt 16:34, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

sigs on guild pages

As per Guild_Wars_Wiki_talk:Formatting/Guilds#Credits_on_Guild_pages, your signature really shouldn't be appearing on numerous guild pages throughout the Guild: namespace. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 02:49, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I do realize that but it's alot faster to type ~~~ than typing [[User:Eloc Jcg|Eloc Jcg]], correct?--§ Eloc § 02:54, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

The point is that credits aren't supposed to appear on articles at all, no matter how you put it =\ MisterPepe talk 03:00, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

You missed the point: your name shouldn't be on the page at all unless it's part of the leader/officer listing. Content credits are not supposed to be on article pages. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 03:01, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Well what if I got those people to add my name then? It's in the GNU Free Documentation License. "...this License preserves for the author and publisher a way to get credit for their work..."--§ Eloc § 03:03, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Also, couldn't people just not butting into talk pages? Not to be mean but edit conflicts suck.--§ Eloc § 03:03, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

That's what the edit history is for. It keeps track of all edits that you've made to a page, so there's no need to add credits to the page itself. The edit history itself takes care of any GFDL attribution concerns =P MisterPepe talk 03:06, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Well I got permission from those people.--§ Eloc § 03:09, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Not sure what your referring to by "butting into" - conversations on a talk page are not limited to two parties. As for the GFDL, as MisterPepe already mentioned, the article History fulfills that role. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 03:10, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Added: it doesn't matter if you have their permission, it's policy not to include credits on pages. I can't give you permission to go against policy, they can't give you permission to go against policy, a sysop can't give you permission to go against policy, not even a bureaucrat can give you permission to go against policy. It's called policy for a reason. If you don't like it, propose a change to the policy, but until or unless it's changed, you need to follow it. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 03:12, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Well what if I got permission from the people? It's just normal to give credit where due. As for butting in, it seems people just can't have one conversation without other people kinda joining in on it.--§ Eloc § 03:13, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

As I already stated above: it does not matter if you got permission, it's not supposed to be there. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 03:15, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Allow me to but in, If you're so concerned about having an A-B conversation why don't you converse with MSN/IRC/AIM/ICQ/Email? -- Scourge 03:16, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Ya, the other one was an edit conflict.--§ Eloc § 03:17, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Blocked for a day...

Hi Eloc,

I blocked you for a day to help you cool down and think about being more considerate. Here are some specifics:

• Don't argue with people simply because they are criticizing you or pointing out what they think are mistakes they made.
• You think Asia is poor and speaks Mandarin. No offense to your limited short-sighted and highly intolernat view of the world, that remark is very offensive in and of itself.
• This is the ONLY official wiki right now and its's in English so you can bet that the ENTIRE player base is reading it, not just those you consider English speaking.

Please take this time to calm down and think twice about engaging in racial/political/linguistic/economic devaluation of other nations. Everyone counts, and everyone counts just as importantly. --Karlos 19:22, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Ok. tyvm. I did need that. I think I'll take maybe one more day off.--§ Eloc § 21:21, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

=P

Nice job on Spined Aloe. xD Vengeance Signet 06:47, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Woot! Like the pic?--§ Eloc § 06:48, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, ish cool. =p Got a lag spike on GW and now I can't put it up fora while. Q.Q Vengeance Signet 06:49, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Aww, wondering why you logged out. Want me to fix your header on your user page? I can make it better.--§ Eloc § 06:51, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

My RfA

Please see my reply to your vote. I just had to reply since your reason was utterly wrong. :) -- (gem / talk) 09:19, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Then why you're rank still there on GuildWiki?--§ Eloc § 09:28, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Because there is no reason to remove the sysop status there. Ofcourse if you want to, you can request removal of my sysop status at Guildwiki from Tanaric, Fyren or LordBiro who are able to remove them. -- (gem / talk) 09:47, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

It'd be a waste of time. Don't worry about it, Gem. -Auron 09:48, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Actually, that's not Fyren's job. More to the point, we don't remove inactive sysops from the roster at the GuildWiki. It's a lifelong appointment, unless you're evil. :) —Tanaric 09:49, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Lol, nice link.--§ Eloc § 21:18, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

ADDED:What happened to your RFA Gem? I was going to strike out the Unsupport vote but I can't find it now.--§ Eloc § 21:20, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Category:Failed RFAs, my bad. category:Failed reconfirmations - anja 21:22, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Eep, do I have a chance to cross it out still?--§ Eloc § 21:25, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

It might be better not to, as it could open the door to confusing records. How about sneaking in a comment right under your oppose, adding something like "Note: I have since changed my mind on this and would strike this out if the RFA were not already closed."? --Rezyk 21:36, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

That's something better suited for the talk page. His stance when the reconfirmation was open was one of opposition; we don't keep archived RfAs updated when people change their stance. -Auron 21:40, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

=(

You don't have many wiki friends. =( Vengeance Signet 03:43, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Ya...DW got to 100 members though!--§ Eloc § 04:00, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Check out my userpage, the leetness! Vengeance Signet 07:54, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Nice, I don't like making my page all fancy like. Just see no joy in it lol.--§ Eloc § 07:54, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Rune of DOOM is awesome though...you gotta love it...Vengeance Signet 07:55, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Prophet Ascension stole mine.--§ Eloc § 07:55, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Are you serious?

Really? Your opposing votes on the RfAs seem just like a bitter revenge for the opposition on your bureaucrat nomination or something. Being admin on both GuildWiki and Guild Wars Wiki is more of a positive than a negative thing. :D -- (gem / talk) 20:20, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Indeed... it proves that they have been deemed capable of using the powers that come with being a sysop correctly on at least one other wiki, for a start. Besides, most grandfathered sysops are inactive on GuildWiki. --Santax (talk · contribs) 20:41, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

No Gem, I'm not opposing votes on the RfAs for bitter revenge for the opposition on my bureaucrat nomination or something. I just think if you're a Sysop on both, then you won't have as much time to spend on each one rather than just being a Sysop on one and being specialized.--§ Eloc § 22:08, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Being a sysop doesn't take your entire day, and there are plenty of people there to back you up. It's not difficult to check both wikis periodically while you are on the computer. - BeX 02:20, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Well I would rather see people who are specialized on one wiki, not two. That's just my opinion though.--§ Eloc § 02:32, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

That's fair enough. :) - BeX 02:56, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Well, it couldn't be based on a "revenge" thing - I didn't vote against him (or course, I didn't vote for him either). As a general rule, I usually choose not to vote on RfA's or bureaucrat elections unless there are extenuating circumstances. As a sysop, my voice shouldn't carry more weight in discussions or votes - but I've seen in the past that some people can be swayed by the votes of those that they perceive to be in a position of authority. True, I get very involved in discussions on articles and policies; but in my mind, those are different situations than votes.

As for a person's ability to sysop on two or more wikis or forums; Eloc is entitled to his opinion on it. Despite multiple arguments presented to him, he has held firm to his position, and I can respect that. If it comes up after the reconfirmations, I may post my thoughts on the subject later. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 02:50, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Why not just put your vote in near the end of the voting period, after most people have made their own decisions? --Rezyk 03:07, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

There's something that I don't understand in your reasoning Eloc. Instead of having lots of well known good sysops that split their time between two wikis you would like to not have those sysops at all? Ie you are countering the 'too little time they could use' with taking the time away completely? Lol at that. :D xD (Btw, most of them are only active on this wiki anyway. You didn't even bother to check their contrib histories at GuildWiki before voting) -- (gem / talk) 21:43, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Well, if they're not active on Guildwiki, then why do they still have Sysop powers? It's not like you use them there if you're only actove on this one. They could be giving them to someone else who is just on Guildwiki and is an active contributor.--§ Eloc § 21:45, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

There isn't a set number of people who can have sysop tools at once. There's no need to demote someone to "make room" for another person having sysop tools. -Auron 03:20, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Category:Gives Luxon factions

Could you explain that bug a bit more, and preferably move it to Luxon faction or similar page? It is now showing up as a sub-category of Category:Bugs. Thx! --  (CoRrRan / talk) 17:52, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

That better?--§ Eloc § 21:34, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you Eloc! Looks fine to me now. --  (CoRrRan / talk) 21:44, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Np.--§ Eloc § 22:12, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Headers

I'm trying to find mention of the header you added to King Adelbern within the Guild Wars Wiki:Formatting/NPCs guideline, but not seeing it. Have these changes been discussed? If so, can you point me to the discussion? --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 01:27, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

They make a lot of white space like that, are they really necessary? You have redundant information with the info box with the name and the profession, and most of the information could be contained within the article and probably is. --Lemming64 01:27, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Not to mention, age? relative to what? The start of prophecies is about 5 years before the end of Nightfall on the timeline. --Lemming64 01:29, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

My thoughts parallel those expressed by Lemming64 and by Barek, above, so I'll not restate them. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 01:30, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

I am going to remove the link to the boxes from the two pages in question for now, I will leave the sub-pages intact until some further discussion has taken place. --Lemming64 01:34, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

 :(, well why not? Everything else is copied from the manual, why not the headers to? It's best to have as much info as possible.--§ Eloc § 01:35, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

The format it is in is not ideal, really something like this needs to be discussed on the npc formatting page and tested out there to see what people would like. The main thing is that two infoboxes is going over the top. If it is repeatable information for most npc's or even some, an if statement could be added to the existing infobox to include the extra information. Otherwise what is wrong with just including it textually in the article itself. --Lemming64 01:38, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Adding information is a good thing, as that is the main focus of the wiki. I think the point being made here is that it doesn't quite seem complete in its current state, and should have been discussed in the appropriate place before being implemented. Virtually everything that gets added to articles that becomes a standard is discussed first, not just implemented. I also see from your list on your user page that currently the plan is only to add it for the Tyrian NPC's... what about all the others? - Thulsey - talk 02:12, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Well I'm starting with the Tyrian ones first.--§ Eloc § 02:15, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Devils Whisper Contact table

Hey Eloc, just wanted to let you know that the row for Vermillion is completely white on Firefox 2.0.0.4 (probably other too). The reason why is because their is no HTML or CSS color called Vermillion, so the background is instead the default (white). The only reason it works on IE is because IE tries to translate into hexadecimal or something like that. But in Firefox it ignores it and puts in the default background (white) which is under your text color of white. Here's an example of what I'm talking about.

I would recommend specifying real colors otherwise a large percentage of people that visit may not see anything for those rows.

PS: Just checked with Opera 9.21, it does the same thing. --trekie9001 05:51, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

FYI: Here's a list of color codes that should, in theory, be safe on all browsers. Although, as you can see, I have some the the hex equivalents incorrect for a couple of them. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 05:59, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

So which one do you think would be closest to the current colour?--§ Eloc § 06:19, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

#CC0000 typo #FF0000 aka "red" - BeX 06:21, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Need something a little darker please.--§ Eloc § 06:32, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

How about #B22222 aka "firebrick". --Sktbrd341 06:35, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict)

#bb0000?

- Thulsey - talk 06:37, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Both to dark.--§ Eloc § 06:40, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

#e00000

This is what IE is rendering your cell background as, so it should be exactly what you want. - Thulsey - talk 06:45, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

That work Mozilla now?--§ Eloc § 06:51, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

It is showing correctly for me now. - BeX 06:56, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Ok, tyvm.--§ Eloc § 06:57, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Hex codes should work correctly across all browsers unless you start getting into weird letter number combinations on old 256 color monitors. It's color names like 'fuscia' that sometimes make the browsers throw up. And cry. ;) - Thulsey - talk 07:01, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

At the same time!? Dam, I'd hate to have that monitor, throwing up on me and leaking its monitor fluid like juices which would probly kill me or something.--§ Eloc § 07:02, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Hey Eloc, the same thing is happening on The_Myrmidon_Elite page in their contacts table. --trekie9001 19:40, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Probly, the colours I put in were profession names ^^;;--§ Eloc § 19:42, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

/wave

Not sure if you noticed, but I responded to your question on my talk page. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 22:01, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Just posted back.--§ Eloc § 22:02, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

like

like what you did with the Eloc Jcg thing at the top of your main user page

sincerely,

Priestess donut 00:00, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Tyvm, I'm also gonna update the page on Eloc also.--§ Eloc § 00:02, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

re *gasp*

Yes i stole it but that my real age in the world of earth. but my character was born in the age of the guild wars.Priestess donut 00:57, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

It's meant for your Guild Wars char :P.--§ Eloc § 01:01, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

or is it Priestess donut 01:42, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Naw, it is. How else would you be born in AE? AE is the Mouvelin Calendar.--§ Eloc § 03:03, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

I edited the Table with the right age check it out Priestess donut 22:02, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Cool. Really old char :P--§ Eloc § 22:04, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

In regards to User talk:Isaiah Cartwright#Goren is married!?...

It really doesn't matter who agrees with who, the fact is, no one should be making personal attacks against any other user on the wiki. Please refrain from doing so. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 02:26, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Then what about him? I'm pretty sure shit dicks is a personal attack against gays/bi-sexuals.--§ Eloc § 02:40, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Bring it up on his talk page if you wish, per Guild Wars Wiki:No personal attacks#Responding to personal attacks. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 02:41, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

(EC) "Then what about him" was not really the right response to that. While Skuld's behavior may not be appropriate, you shouldn't fight fire with fire (which was the entire point of Aiiane's post). MisterPepe talk 02:42, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

You broke policy. He didn't. What's your problem? -Auron 02:44, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

He broke policy by insulting gays/bi's.--§ Eloc § 02:58, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Still not the point of this conversation. Justify it however you want, you were still in the wrong. =) MisterPepe talk 03:01, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

A wise person once said that if everyone worked on improving their own actions, and worried less about the actions of others, the world would be a better place. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 03:03, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Eloc I am going to warn you in the same way I warned Skuld further down this page, you are both treading close to the line. Don't force someone to give either of you a time out. --Lemming64 23:19, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Maps for Quests

Can I ask 2 things wrt to your uploading of maps?

1. Consistent naming scheme, see GWW:QUESTS for the suggested name format.
2. Context/locations in images, e.g. show the outpost where quest starts from, or outpost nearest the first objective etc.

a few of your maps just look like (very small) random screen grabs that could have come from any location in kourna or vabbi. It's not as if maps have to be small, since the wiki will make a thumbnail of large ones to show in the articles. --BramStoker (talk, contribs) 13:29, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

asfd

"I believe calling my topic dumb is considered a personal attack as it brings down my confidence to be able to be posting a simple topic as this and not be criticized which could eventually lead to me never posting anything here again.--§ Eloc § 06:21, 21 July 2007 (UTC)"

you disgust me — Skuld 11:34, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Skuld I must ask you to be careful, you are treading close to the line in my opinion with a comment like that. --Lemming64 23:17, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Shut up — Skuld 21:31, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Go QQ somewhere else Skuld --- Raptors

GWW:FORMAT

Hey Eloc, you have added the Guild_Wars_Wiki:Formatting/Enhancements-section to the GWW:FORMAT-page. Are you ever going to turn that red link blue? Or can we just remove the link from that list? --  (CoRrRan / talk) 16:55, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

I did make the page but it got deleted as they said it should be covered in GWW:ITEMS.--§ Eloc § 19:26, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Revert warring

Please don't do it, it never helps. Further on, if consensus is against keeping that piece of information in the article (as it is currently), then don't insist on adding it, as it's just disrupting; much better to discuss on that talk page until you get some others to agree with you that it should be added. Lastly, I suggest you calm down some and drop the aggressiveness a bit, it's just a wiki article, not the end of the world. Cheers. --Dirigible 22:54, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

I feel that a concensis has not been reached yet as they keep talking about the online store and such. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE ONLINE STORE!--§ Eloc § 23:21, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Consensus has not been reached about including the information in the article. Your initial reason for including the information has been proven wrong, and now the matter is whether or not information of that type belongs on this wiki. Please continue to discuss the matter further, rather than re-adding the information. - BeX 04:15, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Copyvio Image:Update game lnk2.jpg

← moved to Guild Wars Wiki talk:Copyrighted content

Warrior Test

Didn't see you added the walkthrough, sorry for that. Even though the quest formatting policy says to add what it says in the log book, there are 2 different ascalon regions one pre-searing and post-searing. Because this quest takes place before pre-searing it gets that region. Trust me on this one that is what needs to go there. --Sktbrd341 20:57, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Why not put in [[Ascalon (pre-searing)|Ascalon]] .--§ Eloc § 21:06, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

All the other quests that are in pre-searing have the same thing. Its easier for other people to see that the quest takes place in Ascalon (pre-searing) and not get lost when they read Ascalon. Or even if they would click on Ascalon and then the go to the pre-searing might confuse some people. This is how the quest boxes were set up before I got here and I have been following the same procedures. Best place to discuss this would be on the quest policy page. --Sktbrd341 21:09, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

9/11 thing

9/11 was caused by the American government (my theory's) not by a buffalo. but a buffalo is a good theory to :.)Priestess donut 00:31, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, Buffalo live in America, right? They coulda payed em off.--§ Eloc § 01:48, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

that could be try. Priestess donut 09:22, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

erm.... well then? xD -Troy Frostwind 02:41, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

LoL, you might not have saw it. I had some of my conspiracies on my User page. The 9-11 thing was the Buffalo did it.--§ Eloc § 18:08, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

i put up some of my theroys up on my page it is still in the beta stage sort of but check it out. it includes the 9/11 buffalo attack in it and GWW admin theroy. Priestess donut 01:08, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Err... it's "theory", "theories", and "which". -- ab.er.rant 02:11, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Your Userboxes

Hey, I was just gonna do it, but I thought I'd ask first. I can line up your userboxes into 11 1/3 rows of 3, which looks a lot neater. I'm guessing you know how to do this yourself, but I'm just checking. :) Have a good day! Mattman243 14:37, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, good idea. If you want to do it for me, that would be ok. If not, I could kind of mimic your box layout a tad bit.--§ Eloc § 17:36, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, there ya go. If you want to change it go ahead :) I think it looks nicer this way.Mattman243 18:30, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

It does look better, tyvm.--§ Eloc § 18:35, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

NP! :) Mattman243 02:09, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

buying your

hey Eloc i would like to buy your Shiro's Blades and you Kenshi's Butterfly Daggers i would buy them in a range of 5k-7k. ill try to see you next time were both on at the same time priestess donut +20:25, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm still updating the prices. I'll PM you when the prices are all sorted out.--§ Eloc § 22:48, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

ok i just to get on so if your on ill see you ingame priestess donut +00:41, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I'll update the prices and stuff once I get images going.--§ Eloc § 00:48, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

silentassassinbjk and i am your conscience

Hi this is silent assassin letting you know that me and my bros are on vacation righg now. We will be back on saturday. I asked another officer to tell you before we left. I also was gonna put in the giuld announcements, but for some reason it wasn't letting me. Ty...bi bi --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Jboy157 .

silentassassinbjk and i am your conscience

Hi this is silent assassin letting you know that me and my bros are on vacation righg now. We will be back on saturday. I asked another officer to tell you before we left. I also was gonna put in the giuld announcements, but for some reason it wasn't letting me. Ty...bi bi

Help

[1] Please? --- Raptors

Nevermind its all good. --- Raptors

Kingdom Hearts Logo

The image is going to be deleted soon, did you find the source? poke | talk 21:24, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Ok, there you go. Delete away. I'll edit the picture so it is only the blue heart, no logo.--§ Eloc § 22:48, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Shing Jea landmarks

You seem to be updating/creating the pages for that long list of Shing Jea landmarks. This is just a heads up to remember to put the correct party size. You put "8" on the first three. Wouldn't want you to finish the entire list then realize they all have the wrong party size. That is, if those pages even need a party size, since they're really just part of an explorable area. Oh well, up to you. --Heelz 01:14, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

As for party size, it automatically does that if I remove the settings. There is no way around it atm.--§ Eloc § 01:19, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

I've tried to fix the location infobox to work with landmarks. Please tell me what else needs to be fixed :) (Oh, and btw, please put the real region as region, i. e. Shing Jea Island, since it will be categorized after region. The explorable should be in the description atm) - anja 08:15, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

The explorable?--§ Eloc § 04:32, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

I know what you did last summer

...or a few hours ago at least. Spotted your name in the Eye of the North, I believe... you were giving something away? The name Eloc rang a bell, but I wasn't sure if it was one of your characters. :D -- Jioruji Derako.> 08:51, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

LoL, yes it was me. I was giving away free weapon mods and golds. They were taking up to much of my storage.--§ Eloc § 20:42, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

And I was busy going broke over new skills. Yay! (but seriously, I'm broke in-game now.) -- Jioruji Derako.> 00:39, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

LoL, I only bought 2 new skills. earthen Shackles, and slippery Ground.--§ Eloc § 04:57, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Volley Sloth Hunter's Shot Rapid Fire Feral Aggression Poison Tip Signet Companionship Vampiric Assault Shadow Fang Golden Fang Strike Trampling Ox Way of the Master Sadist's Signet Signet of Deadly Corruption Smoke Powder Defense. Luckily, you can unlock these skills in PvP and use tomes, so I saved a bit of gold. Even managed to buy 8 Ranger tomes for 2.1k. But I still have five characters that need to get there... -- Jioruji Derako.> 05:33, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Any suggestions on how to beat the Fight quest? I am doing it with my Ele and have lost like every time at the end round.--§ Eloc § 06:16, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Which Fight quest? You mean the boxing? -- Jioruji Derako.> 07:55, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Nvm, I beat it.--§ Eloc § 08:08, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Rare Skinned Rune

If you do find that picture, show me on my talk page. --69.47.207.100 22:15, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

i will finally be able to

next time you run for bureaucrat i will be able to vote for you i got enough edit into the wiki woot. t priestess donut +23:08, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Gratz. I think I'll run for Sysop instead though. It has less to do with the community and not as much pressure on you, ya know?--§ Eloc § 23:10, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Bureaucrat

You spelled it wrong in your latest userbox. Just letting you know ^^ --- Raptors

LoL. Ty for telling me.--§ Eloc § 00:43, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

LFP

i'll whisp you once my GW:EN code has been sent... and 16 is the best age one could be. - Y0_ich_halt 00:53, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

For what? This have something to do with my header I suppose?--§ Eloc § 03:33, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

yup (see heading). i have gw:en now and i don't really wanna play through it alone. - Y0_ich_halt 11:43, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

LoL, sure. I got it before release (pre ordered) and haven't done alot in it. I have mainly been working on the Titan Quests now but I don't mind going through it.--§ Eloc § 16:02, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

i thought i'd pre-ordered it, too, but someone made a mistake there... - Y0_ich_halt 16:48, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

At EBGames?--§ Eloc § 21:34, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

amazon.de, i'm german. - Y0_ich_halt 21:36, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh alright, I knew I saw you on the talk page for the German Translation Task Force thingy. I wanna learn German ^^, I thought it would be fitting as I'm German in heritage.--§ Eloc § 21:38, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

cool ^^ i like people who wanna learn german :) "You just earned the favor of Y0 by favoring both his language and his templates." - Y0_ich_halt 23:14, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Woot! Ya, so once I start learning some German I'll have to practise with you ^.^--§ Eloc § 23:59, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

ask anytime ;) - Y0_ich_halt 00:01, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

For sure. On another note, what's your picture in your signature of?--§ Eloc § 00:02, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

it's the purpose of life. compressed into a pumpkin. don't ask me. maybe i'll tell you what it once was later, when i'm fully awake. - Y0_ich_halt 00:25, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

What time is it in Germany?--§ Eloc § 00:55, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

3 o'clock in the morning. i'm going to bed now, see ya. - Y0_ich_halt 01:03, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Pfft, you get tired at only 3AM? I like get tired like the next night if I didn't sleep at all lol.--§ Eloc § 02:19, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

fyi, that was "the next night" :) . i won't be online much more than right now, but i'll be back tomorrow. - Y0_ich_halt 12:23, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Alright, lol.--§ Eloc § 13:53, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome!

If I have any questions I'll be sure to let you know. And holy cow, you have a lot of userboxes! --SZK 21:02, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Eloc is self proclaimed userbox-king. :-D --  (CoRrRan / talk) 21:05, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, yes I am :P--§ Eloc § 03:48, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Userboxes

please leave credit. :) - Y0_ich_halt 20:01, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcoming me :)

Hi there, eloc. Thanks for the great welcome. Now one thing I'd like to know is can can help me get the proper 'babel' box for Chinese level 4? Mine is not correctly done. (The text in the babel box should be in Chinese, not English). Swordfish56 08:35, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

type it in chinese. you can use the windows character table or change your keyboard to chinese keyboard, if you have it instealled. - Y0_ich_halt 14:15, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, Yo_ich_halt. I've got it done. I guess Eloc doesn't need to answer the question anymore :) Swordfish56 15:02, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

LoL, np for the welcome. Thnx for answering that question Y0.--§ Eloc § 15:16, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

you're welcome xD - Y0_ich_halt 15:17, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Last name...

Thought it was pretty odd/cool that we have the same last name :D.--Atlas Oranos 20:52, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Really? Cool :P.--§ Eloc § 21:27, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Guru tracking cookie

What is your point? You found a harmless ad-related tracking cookie? Go you! — Skuld 21:19, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

hes just say watch cause it could be a key logger.probably isn't but it could still be.t priestess donut +21:56, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Its a cookie, stoopid. — Skuld 22:25, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

it could appear as a cookie but is key logger. this world is weird and full of weird things you never know.t priestess donut +23:08, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Um, no, it can't. Cookies are cookies. Keyloggers are programs. Cookies cannot be programs, and any program that was trying to hide wouldn't go to the trouble of also showing up as a cookie. So please, don't scaremonger when you have no idea what you're talkiing about. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 23:28, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

You know what the "risk level" is for? poke | talk 23:14, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I know what the risk level is for and cookies acutally observe what you go on then send you spam relating to what you like to go on the most, be it porn or video games. And spam in general isn't good to have.--§ Eloc § 00:15, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

The main reason for having cookies is to store user data.. For example the session of the wiki login.. Spam is something you cannot avoid in the internet.. poke | talk 21:30, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, GWW doesn't put the cookies on to observe what we do on the Internet then reports it to 3rd partys.--§ Eloc § 22:50, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

it's a good thing to that GWW puts tracking cookies on our computers. also Eloc don't put ideas in there head. t priestess donut +23:23, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Your user page

Currently infringes the user page policy, "The combined contents on your main user page should not exceed 300 kB in total size. You can verify your page size simply by saving your user page with your browser and checking the resulting file size." by quite a lot, the main culprit is the rollerbeetle dance gif though in one of your infoboxes. Please be tollerant of those on modems and replace it with the still image perhaps. --Lemming 00:09, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, I got rid of that Roller Beetle userbox. How do I save my use page with my browser?--§ Eloc § 00:31, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

File -> Save Page. It should be pretty much a similar format in most browsers, though I expect some name it differently --Lemming 00:33, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

However without the roller-beetle it is close enough that I doubt it will cause any further complaints. Stop adding so many userboxes :p --Lemming 00:34, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

LoL, eventually I'll probly ditch them and make a real userpage...--§ Eloc § 00:37, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Lemming's reconfirmation

Uh... maybe you should read up on what reconfirmation requests are before you start supporting things. :) —Tanaric 01:43, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the support anyway :) --Lemming 16:16, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Show preview

please please please use :) --Lemming 16:16, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Little tough when I'm editing small sections and the show preview button doesn't show properly unless I'm editing the article as a whole.--§ Eloc § 22:02, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

C++

Hooray for another C++ learner. How you finding it? I'm finding it a challenge but extremely rewarding. I've also been learning Pascal alongside it, without that I wouldn't have known where to start on C++. Do you have aspirations of becoming a games programmer like myself? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Hyperion .

I am finding it quite tough as the book I'm doing it in seems outdated and didn't even give me all the library sources. Like it asks for something similar to #include <iostream.h> but it doesn't come with the software so I can't get it all figured out completly. Good thing is, I'm getting credits for high school by doing it in Computers Class. And yes, I'm hoping to one day become a game programmer.--§ Eloc § 01:16, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Whats up, I am currently in my second to last semester for game programming. If you need a compiler go to microsofts website and download Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 Express Edition. It comes with all of the libraries you need and it is free. If you are looking into becoming a game programmer once you understand C++ start looking at DirectX and OpenGL programming. --Sktbrd341 19:44, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Ya, I'm using Microsoft Visual C++ at my school.--§ Eloc § 19:46, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh god

My fucking eyes! THEY'RE MELTING! —ǥrɩɳsɧƿoɲ 01:32, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

LoL.--§ Eloc § 01:33, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

aren't pages like that forbidden somewhere in GWW:USER? xD - Y0_ich_halt 14:32, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

No, and I'm not done yet.--§ Eloc § 19:16, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

I do have to say Eloc, the black-on-red-on-black color scheme is rather painful to the eyes (especially since the rest of the wiki page is white - too much contrast). (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 19:34, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, I'm still kinda working on it. I'll even add a stub tag at the top if you want me to ;P--§ Eloc § 19:37, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Emily's Talk page

please try and be polite if you want an answer, this as an edit comment "You still didn't answer my simple question..." could be taken as quite rude, and if I was Emily I certainly wouldn't want to give you an answer if you addressed me like that. --Lemming 19:15, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Well I find it rude to archive something on your talk page without even reading it. It would be like me archiving this without writing back and totally ignoring you.--§ Eloc § 19:16, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Because being rude when someone else is rude really solves problems. --Lemming 22:43, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

?--§ Eloc § 23:17, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm saying, that saying that because person A was rude first is not a justification for being rude back :) But nevermind, forget it :) --Lemming 23:31, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Alright, didn't mean to be rude if I was.--§ Eloc § 23:47, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

An eye for an eye and everyone goes blind Eloc. -- Scourge 00:46, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Alright, I'll try to keep that in mind.--§ Eloc § 02:06, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

just to tell you

hey just giving you some info my parents grounded me from the computer and so i will not be on till progress reports at school. so the guild is going to be disbanded once i get back on to the game so you can kick the guild from the alliance if needed but i have no idea what im going to do guild wise. if your willing me to get back in DW1 or DW2 dosen't matter to me.Hope you understand. t priestess donut +00:10, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Ya sure. I'll let you back in. Just PM me ingame or leave me a message here.--§ Eloc § 00:16, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

im not too good at writing in this shit but.....yay donut is comin back! -Verm

LoL, glad to see you check my talk page here Vermillion.--§ Eloc § 16:10, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:Eloc.JPG

Image:Eloc.JPG Doesn't have the user prefix on it and has been tagged for deletion. Figured you just forgot to change it :) Fall 00:27, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

LoL, that's so old. Sure, I'll reupload it. Thnx for reminding me. :)--§ Eloc § 01:29, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

 ? need more info on

just wondering why you removed the members section from our guild page. this is kept updated by our leadership aka me on a regular basis. also we were informed that keeping this list would not be an issue. ThanksRockweaver 04:45, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh, sorry. Before, the formatting said not to keep things which constantly change, like complete member lists and things like guild GvG rank/rating. I guess I was a bit outdated, sorry. Just revert my edit there and re add your members section.--§ Eloc § 04:54, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

np i restored the data last night i was more puzzled than upset. btw your page is a little hard to read with dark red on black. not a complaint just a observation. have a great day.Rockweaver 13:53, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

You to.--§ Eloc § 19:11, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

The Wing's Axe

I want to test whether the full vigor paladin axe variant still works, but I can't do that properly without having a Wing's Axe. Can I borrow it from you for a 5k deposit? —Ebany Salmonderiel 17:43, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

uh... the axt totally doesn't matter for that build o.O the build's core are AoE axe attacks combined with monks heals that trigger on action. the zealous mod is gimmick for e-management. - Y0_ich_halt 17:58, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

I suppose, but I can't test it to its full potential without a zealous axe, and I don't have one. ——Ebany Salmonderiel 19:01, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Ya, I'll loan it to you for a 5k deposit, and if you decide to keep it, then go right ahead. Just PM me ingame.--§ Eloc § 19:10, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

... i thought wing's was a bit more expensive? you're a nice guy... :) - Y0_ich_halt 19:19, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Dude, I have full Obsidian armor and a 90k staff and am hopefully buying a Torment staff today. Do you think something like a Wing's Axe is going to ever make me alot of money? lol. Besides, lower the price = faster it sells ;P.--§ Eloc § 19:21, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

you're crazy... xD kinda Sir Farmalot or all through actual play? - Y0_ich_halt 19:40, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Normal play mostly, but I do have a 55 Monk who can farm Hydras on HM.--§ Eloc § 22:32, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

I PMed you in game, you replied to the first PM, then after that you didn't reply at all, when I asked you to come to my guild hall