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Another DPL Question

I would like to display only those articles that were last edited in April 2008. Can you please help with this task? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.83.31.1 (talk • contribs) at 05:09, 1 May 2008 (UTC).

You might want to take a look at the DPL manual. The only parameter to get the result you want would be allrevisionssince/allrevisionsbefore but note that you will get revisions as results and not the articles, so you might have articles listed more than once. poke | talk 14:05, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the info. I did look at that but it did suit my need. How about using {{currentmonth}} to display articles that were created during the current month. Any advise/suggestions are appreciated.

Hi, still struggling :c( ... please help. I found that "firstrevisionsince=dateandoptionaltime" will give me what I need ... except that I don't want the timestamp and username attached to the article, such as, 23:57, 2 May 2008 : Insurance Programs . . JSmith --- I just want the article name, such as, Insurance Programs

How can I turn the timestamp/editor (Username) off from my results? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.29.43.3 (talk • contribs) at 20:55, 12 May 2008 (UTC).

Use the format parameter with the %TITLE% variable to get the output formatted as you like. poke | talk 21:37, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you Poke, that worked ! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.29.43.2 (talk • contribs) at 15:59, 13 May 2008 (UTC).

You're welcome :) poke | talk 17:35, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

DPL list using ordermethod=pagetouched - How would I write a query to extact a list of articles which were modified on a given month? Where month would be: %DATE%=200805 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.29.43.2 (talk • contribs) at 16:04, May 14, 2008 (UTC).

No Archive

On the help pages the one labled "No Archive" can just be deleted right? --Shadowphoenix 17:51, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

yep poke | talk 17:55, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Clear Cache

Do you have any idea where the text that appears at the top of pages like user based monobook.js or monobook.css is located as while using FireFox I've never been able to use Shift + F5 to bypass your browser's cache and have always used Ctrl + F5. I had a look in the MediaWiki namespace but couldn't find anything related to it. --Kakarot 17:59, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

MediaWiki talk:Clearyourcache poke | talk 18:08, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

In the name of all that is good and pure >.<

I need your help, I am trying to work out a thingy that adds a link to your toolbox that links to a users block logs (for blocks they have recieved). I have been messing with the code for like 2 hours now and I can't get it to display our block log, bah...... here is the code, can u tell me what I am doing wrong?

// adds a 'block logs for this user' link to the toolbox bar
// if the page is a special page or in the GWW namespace, then no link is displayed;
// the link may display in the mainspace, but should not work
addOnloadHook(function () {
    if ( wgCanonicalNamespace == "Special" );
    if ( wgCanonicalNamespace == "Guild Wars Wiki" );
    if ( wgCanonicalNamespace == "ArenaNet" );
    if ( wgCanonicalNamespace == "Help" )
        return;  // don't display link for certain pages
    url = wgServer + "index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=&page=User%3A" + username (wgPageName);
    addPortletLink("p-tb", url, "Block logs for this user", "pt-logs");
});

--Shadowphoenix 21:18, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

o.O uhm, you might be interested in some JavaScript tutorials or syntax descriptions.. See [wikibook] for example.. poke | talk 21:30, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

I know a bit of JavaScript; and I got this to work but then the link suddenly went dead..... -.- that is why I asked ur help........ --Shadowphoenix 21:35, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Actually you seem to not know enough basics of JavaScript as the problem here is a syntactical problem, and I don't have the time atm. to explain the basics of JavaScript to you. Apart from that you seem to mix up some logical things in there, as if you don't have a real plan of what you are doing... poke | talk 21:42, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

nvm At helped me, I was mixing some stuff up :P (mostly the namspaces to be left out) I am tryign to get better throguh trial and error, but I know enough to make tabs and such; but that is about it :P. I dont think I could make a system like GWWT but I can at least make what I need (or want) to make. Thanks anyway! --Shadowphoenix 21:48, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

GWWT shortcut

Have you thought of creating a shortcut to the GWWT page, something like User:Poke/GWWT? Whenever I want to check something on the page I often type that shortcut in only to remember it doesn't exist. I would create it but considering it's your userspace it would be preferable if you did it. --Kakarot 21:01, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Here you are :) poke | talk 21:03, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks :) --Kakarot 21:04, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

So..

So, what's new with you Poke? — ク Eloc 貢 23:06, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

huh? poke | talk 23:15, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

I dunno, random discussion. Out of curiosity, what computer/programming languages do you know? — ク Eloc 貢 23:31, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

depends on the definition of "know" :P I know very many; I can read nearly the same number; I know the syntax of most; I can work with a lot and I'm good at some :D poke | talk 23:34, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Well which ones do you have a decent level of knowledge of? For me I know Pascal, HTML and C++, in that order. — ク Eloc 貢 04:46, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

To name my favorite ones(/the ones I work most with): ActionScript, php, Python, JavaScript. (html is not a programming language) poke | talk 15:39, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

If you don't know HTML, you need help. Or wiki. Calor 18:51, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

what's html? i've only ever used wiki...--Sum Mesmer Guy contribs 19:04, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

HTML, basically it's what websites are made with and also works on wikis. --Kakarot 19:06, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Ewwww Pascal! I hate that language. 2 years i spent trying to learn it and even now i shudder when i think about it. -- Salome 19:16, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

As I said Calor, it is not a programming language so I don't mention it. poke | talk 16:21, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

German?

Could you help me out with a user who's Guild seems to speak German? He keeps uploading images incorrectly. --People of Antioch 23:27, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

I think he already got it :) poke | talk 16:21, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

user image? or am i wrong?

why did you remove the deletition tag from Image:Lazycincodemayo4.jpg? Because it's shown in Cinco de Mayo? What naming policies have such pictures? —ZerphaThe Improver 15:45, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

None that I know of. - anja 15:46, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

It's not a user image, so it cannot be deleted because of that reason. Of course its name could be better (for example Image:Cinco de Mayo header.jpg or something like that). poke | talk 16:21, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok. Should i reupload [[:Image:User Zerpha The Improver Inventory icons project icon.png|the inventory icons project icon] then as well? I asked for help on the image's talk, but didn't get an answer :P I should better have asked somewhere else. —ZerphaThe Improver 16:25, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

You can if you like, but you don't need to. poke | talk 16:56, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

ok. And there isn't a naming policy for guild images besides the cape? Shouldn't pictures like Image:Zaishenlol.jpg be moved to Guild namespace as well? —ZerphaThe Improver 17:45, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

That one definitely; It's just that the image above is mainly used for the article in the main namespace. poke | talk 17:49, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok, i'll reupload it as Image:Guild Death Is Energy Zaishenlol.jpg then. (having a "move pictures"-bot that reuploads these images automatically with according description would be awesome, lol) —ZerphaThe Improver 18:07, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Sitenotice

Since you just changed this, you might be interested in this discussion :) --Kakarot 01:26, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

I read it :P And because of that I set up the edit summary ;) But sorry that I stole your first MediaWiki-edit :P poke | talk 01:28, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

=(, it's ok I found me a new link =P --Kakarot 01:30, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

/runs -- Brains12 \ Talk 01:31, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry

Sorry about that Poke, I will make sure to bring it up somewhere and see if people tink is a good idea before doing that again; sorry for the trouble :) --Shadowphoenix 19:17, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Many people are still around even when they don't post anything or show that they are still active. Sometimes a message on the talk page helps to get that known ;) poke | talk 19:26, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Emails work well also. — ク Eloc 貢 00:44, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikichu assistance

Hey poke :D Zerpha and I are sorting through images and were wondering if we could get some wikichu help to recategorize a few things. Insignia images to Insignia icons to start with would be great :D -- Wynthyst 15:57, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Sure, I won't have time today, but I will do it tomorrow :) poke | talk 16:00, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Cool :D thanks -- Wynthyst 16:18, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Should we put something about it here? --Shadowphoenix 16:23, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

As there is no other active bot around, and it is already posted here, I don't think it is really needed. poke | talk 16:25, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm, ok :) --Shadowphoenix 16:26, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Done :] poke | talk 21:11, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

What I meant

Is on wikis that accept Fair use and public domain; I didnt mention ours didnt sorry. The Fair Use kit is the ArenaNet fansite kit, which the images qualify under fair use for the fansites. Sorry if I wasn't clear on that :) --Shadowphoenix 19:09, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

The Community Fansite Kit is not Fair use. The big difference is that Fair use allows people to use the image without direct permission of the copyright holder. But the Community Fansite Kit is a direct permission of the copyright holder, ArenaNet, to use the image for all fansite-like projects. poke | talk 19:35, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Ah, I was unaware of that.... I thought you needed direct permission for it to qualify under fair use, Thanks! I learned something new today :D --Shadowphoenix 19:37, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome :) poke | talk 19:38, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Bundle infobox

Could I have the codemaster take a look at User:Backsword/Sandbox/BIb and tell me what obvious mistake I am making to cause the mess? (See my example/test page) Backsword 20:22, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Should be fixed. The #if statements trim the text inside of them, so you can add as many linebreaks as you want, they will be all gone when it is parsed. As table cells and columns have to be on their own line, the closing if and the opening if cannot be on the same line. poke | talk 20:32, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Ach, if it only were that simple. I do know, so that was a desperation attempt, hoping it would semiread it. The thing is; look at how the box looks when neither if is called; it adds a blank line below the picture. (Eg. poder ked on the example page). Backsword 20:39, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok, now it works. I don't know exactly why, but adding the column break directly after the image solved it. I moved the new colum definitions to the end of the #if, so it should work now. poke | talk 20:56, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. No idea why that workd. Seems to accept linebreaks later in the if, just not in the begining. Backsword 21:02, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Category:Insignia images

Why NOGALLERY? --Shadowphoenix 21:07, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

three topics above. This category will be deleted. poke | talk 21:09, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh yeah /doh :P --Shadowphoenix 21:10, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Guild talk:Dark Icy Pandas

lmao I just used Google translate just to see how the that German comes out and a lot of it really made me laugh, an example would be the sentence regarding your talk page came out as "If you have any questions, you can calm me on my Poke ask." --Kakarot 21:39, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

o.O You should use the parsed text to translate, not the code :P poke | talk 21:41, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

If by that you mean copy the actual text from the page and not go to edit and then copy from there, the translation is even funnier. Never realized Google translate was that bad. --Kakarot 21:46, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Guild Wars Wiki:Adminship/Draft C

Hey, since the main thing that I wanted to be added to GWW:ADMIN was put in Draft B; should I put a note saying it was merged, rejected, or inactive? thanks --Shadowphoenix 16:54, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

As the draft itself, or the draft in complete, was rejected, I think that would fit best. poke | talk 17:04, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Deletes

Woo! You're fast. Thanks! Mohnzh say what? 18:18, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

hehe, that's why it's called speedy deletion :D poke | talk 18:19, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Deletion Error

Hey Poke, while deleting this image for U1 I got an error message: "Error deleting file: Could not rename file "public/c/c5/User_Mini_me_Spanktastic.gif" to "deleted/r/8/o/r8ojz8ac7jtekhm8igri7ksjpfe13yd.gif"." Although it seems to have been deleted I was wondering if you have any idea why this happened as it's the first time I've got that error. --Kakarot 02:32, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

That happens when the original file is broken or non-existent. In that case the server simply cannot rename the - missing - file, so it cannot be restored later either. poke | talk 14:19, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Odd, before it was deleted it seemed fine and no one else was on a deletion spree at the time but I guess it can happen for other reasons from time to time.
While I'm here I was just wondering what should be done about this image, based on the history of the image it seems that the image is still required but is being tagged because it is apparently not being used and I think that is what this is about. Should the deletion tag be removed or at least changed to non-speedy? --Kakarot 14:28, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Another possibility is of course, that the server just failed :P

For the image, they are replacing the XY icon.png to just XY.png (as screenshots are stored as .jpg). In this case there is the Image:Hexagram staff.png, so the icon one is redundant. poke | talk 14:34, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Could of sworn I had searched for that naming of the image and came up with nothing but maybe I didn't. Probably just another lack of concentration caused by not eating although it's no where near as bad as last time :/ --Kakarot 14:43, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

GW2 Suggestions

I just created the pages as per my discussions with Aspectacle here. Sorry if this causes complications, but it seemed like this was how the discussion was going to move forward. If I can help to fix any problems as a result, let me know. (Satanael 06:42, 20 May 2008 (UTC))

It's fine, that you are trying to organize that well, but maybe it would be better to at least put a note now on the pages so that nobody suddenly starts proposing new suggestions :/ That would prevent some problems we would get later when finally moving everything in that namespace. poke | talk 08:25, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Okay, will do. Just FYI, the suggestions we've put in there already are mainly just to test some of the things we're implementing to make sure they work right and see if we can improve them, we'll try to keep the additions to a minimum in any case. (Satanael 07:22, 22 May 2008 (UTC))

PvP versions/skill list

Now that we have Category:PvP versions of skills, can we get an option added to the {{skill table}} template to choose whether we want to show PvP versions in the list or not? (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 15:58, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Just use "category=PvP versions of skills" or "notcategory=PvP versions of skills" respectively, and it should work fine. Although, if you meant a simple switch like pvp=y, then ignore me :) - anja 16:01, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

That simple switch is indeed what I meant. I know one could use the category to exclude them (after all, that's basically what switch will end up doing, eventually) but it's a common enough thing we'd expect to toggle that it makes sense (at least to me) to put in a shortcut switch, if only to make typos less likely (or if, say, we ever decided to change that category name). (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 16:21, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

At least at the moment we filter all skills manually by the category name out. So I don't see a need to include now a parameter for split skills. poke | talk 17:12, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Your italicized text is the reason. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 19:32, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

DPL problem =o

When using a DPL request to find pages outside of the Guild, User, User talk, and Template namespaces, it generates this list for me:

{{#dpl:
| notnamespace=Guild
| notnamespace=User
| notnamespace=User_talk
| notnamespace=Template
| uses=Template:Guild¦Template:Guild cleanup¦Template:Guild infobox¦Template:guild-stub
| format=Results: <code>,%NAMESPACE%:%TITLE%, ,</code>
| noresultsheader=None :)
}}

I get 2 guilds in the guild namespace show up (Guild:Guild Of Russian Pathfinders, Guild:The Disciples Of Kashga), and I have no idea why... -- Tomato 11:52, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Hmm. The pages seem to be broken. I added the format line above, and when you look at the result, there will be an empty namespace and the title contains "Guild:", so they are both recognized as mainspace articles by DPL. I don't know how to fix this, but maybe a move ot another page and then moving back would help.. poke | talk 12:41, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok, that happens only with the code above, checking the namespace directly for them, gives correct results.. poke | talk 12:44, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Meh, it doesn't work. But at least I now know why this happened to "The Disciples Of Kashga"; the page was created when there was a bug with the namespaces (the guild namespace did not exist). poke | talk 17:40, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Added a request to have that fixed now.. poke | talk 17:51, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Yay now you can't continue killing RC =p --Kakarot 17:55, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Don't worry, I'll find something else :P poke | talk 17:56, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

I invoke...

... The Avatar of Poke! Once again, hello! --People of Antioch 14:32, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

lol about time :p --Kakarot 14:38, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

hai! :D btw. never disturb me while deleting :P poke | talk 14:46, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

*posts sign saying "Do Not Disturb, known to delete people indiscriminately."* :*) --People of Antioch 14:50, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

lol :D poke | talk 14:51, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

You should add that note to the skill PoA. --Kakarot 14:58, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Kakarot :( Don't tag the images while I'm deleting the inactive pages.. :P poke | talk 15:02, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

I didn't I tagged images I deleted the guild pages for. When I started going through them you hadn't started on inactives :p --Kakarot 15:05, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Ah! So it was your fault, that I got deletion conflicts! And I thought my mouse opened the tabs multiple times again... poke | talk 15:08, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

At least you don't get deletion conflicts when no one else is deleting at all and you only clicked delete once like I have. --Kakarot 15:11, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Heh you did it to me this time. --Kakarot 16:37, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

hrhr :D poke | talk 16:38, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Exhaustion!? Poke can never get exhausted from deleting...never. — ク Eloc 貢 22:18, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Anonymous talk pages

Hey Poke, I noticed that after you deleted all those anonymous user pages you tagged the talk pages for deletion, shouldn't we leave ones that have a warning such as User talk:80.193.98.46 User talk:86.83.15.245 and User talk:88.105.139.163? I see no problem with deleting User talk:86.7.133.141 or User talk:87.51.110.165 though. --Kakarot 13:10, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

I basically looked at the time. I don't think we need to keep old talk pages, especially as IPs are always changing.. poke | talk 13:11, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok, you missed a few User talk:76.26.189.65, User talk:82.3.237.149, User talk:85.103.56.190, User talk:86.62.250.4 and User talk:87.177.241.34. --Kakarot 13:18, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

I think I left those out because they were a bit too recent :P But feel free to tag them if you like ^^ poke | talk 13:25, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

I only did the last one but left the others for now. --Kakarot 13:36, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Question

Perhaps this edit is the information you are looking for? here Backsword 12:25, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Ah, not a very detailed comment, but thanks ^^ poke | talk 12:28, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

just realised

pokébot! I choose you, Wikichu! - Y0_ich_halt 18:50, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, that's on its user page already :P poke | talk 18:52, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

i meant the pun with poke+bot... - Y0_ich_halt 18:53, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Well that is the reason why the IRCabal decided to have it that name :P Before it was just Poke.bot poke | talk 18:59, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

ah, lol. - Y0_ich_halt 19:08, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

tango icons

do you make those yourself or do you download them from that website with example tango icons? - Y0_ich_halt 20:43, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

All of them are self-made :) poke | talk 20:50, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

By copying an already-made set :P -- Brains12 \ talk 21:09, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) with photoshop? how? o.o i'm mostly interested in how you actually removed the background as opposed to making it white like in my image. i could figure out creating a new layer with only the image and no background around it, then save the layer as a new file, but it seems to fill it white automatically. - Y0_ich_halt 21:18, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Actually, I used an icon from the tango icon library as the basic idea but created it completely on my own, Pling. Y0, you should read about vector images ;) poke | talk 22:06, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

i'm a noob when it comes to stuff like that. wth are vector images? i've heard the word vector be used in all kinds of way, can't guess what vector images might be. - Y0_ich_halt 12:42, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

While normal bitmap graphics are bascially only a set of pixels with the information where (position) and what (color), vector graphics are described using mathematical or geometrical objects like points and (bezier) curves. Multiple points connected by curves/lines can build up complex objects and those objects can be, for example, colored using a gradient.

The basic benefit from using vector images is that you can scale them up (or zoom into them) without losing any quality whereas bitmap images have to be recalculated and lose a lot of information. Because of this the main usage for vector images is probably for print media (papers, posters) where you need a high resolution to get a nice printing (PDF for example is a format that contains mainly vector data). In the last years vector images were more attractive for screen displays, especially as the file format SVG (Scalable Vector Graphic) is getting more popular and has now even native support in browsers (not all though :P).

That was a short intro into Vector graphics. :) poke | talk 13:38, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

ah, now i know what that means. i only have no idea what it has to do with creation of tango images or rendering, except that i get why certain image formats don't lose quality when you zoom in :P - Y0_ich_halt 13:46, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

This is why you don't ask Poke for an explanation, you get an exceedingly long and thorough explanation although that is sometimes a good thing :p --Kakarot 13:48, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

w:Vector images try that --Shadowphoenix 13:50, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Because of their description as mathematical structures, you can simply multiplicate everything *2 and have the double size (simplified), and the display is still fine. The Tango Desktop Project is just a group of people who made up a guideline on how to create (vector) icons for applications, to keep the look consistent. Because Tango icons look very nice in general, Biro adapted the idea for the profession icons, and I continued on that :P

Rendering is probably a wrong term when talking about vector images - ok you could use it, as the client which is displaying the vector file is rendering it, but I whatever :P

Nobody asked for a Wikipedia link, Shadowphoenix. I think if Y0 wanted a Wikipedia answer he would have been able to look there on his own :P

Kakarot: :P poke | talk 14:04, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

ok, wrong term then. does the tango group also have a tut on how to make icons at all? i read before that they introduced a norm for image design, but i had no idea how to make icons anyway so i forgot about it again. and yes, phoenix, i understood his explanation of vector images very well, but vector images weren't what i wanted to know about :P - Y0_ich_halt 14:09, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Hmm. The guideline only explains what you have to do, but gives no real hints about how you do that.. (Plus it is not the same in every program.) There is a video on the bottom of that page, if that helps, but I would recommend you to simply download Inkscape, and play a bit with it.. poke | talk 14:18, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

photoshop... grn. - Y0_ich_halt 14:26, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

waitwaitwait, that page is a wiki? o.o - Y0_ich_halt 14:29, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Photoshop? No, Inkscape :P And yes, a wiki, any problems? :P poke | talk 14:31, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

i meant i have only photoshop. - Y0_ich_halt 15:08, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

That's why I said, download Inkscape! It's free! :P poke | talk 15:08, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

why would it be better? - Y0_ich_halt 15:12, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Simple answer: It's a vector program. poke | talk 15:15, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

aaand... photoshop isn't? - Y0_ich_halt 15:27, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Photoshop is a bitmap program with very limited vector support, whereas Inkscape, as a pure vector program gives you full support. poke | talk 15:31, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

so not only .bmps are bitmaps? - Y0_ich_halt 15:34, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

as you would think from the format name, which is as you know "bitmap". - Y0_ich_halt 15:34, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

bmp was probably one of the first (the first?) bitmap format, yes :P But bitmap basically means that you have a map of bits representing the pixels. So bitmaps include file formats like jpg, png, gif etc. (Maybe I should better called them raster images.. but in the end it's the same :P) poke | talk 15:36, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

ok, i just thought jpgs and pngs use different ways because they aren't, well, bmps. - Y0_ich_halt 15:39, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

They do. In fact, "bitmap" isn't really the proper term - they're raster images. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 15:51, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Did you

make the name of your monk, Nao Ru, on purpose knowing that it means "to get better" in Japanese? I'm assuming it's more than just a coincidence, but I was just curious. o_O Kokuou 22:08, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

yes, you are right :) All of my character names have a meaning (except for my first, Patrick Brand which is just some playing with my first name and some fiery :P) poke | talk 22:13, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Just for now...

...Since the tangos haven't been implemented yet, I'm gonna mark them as user images (but not as delete ones, that would be a hassle). --People of Antioch 00:54, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

They are not user images, it is planned to put them into the templates themselves. -- Brains12 \ talk 00:58, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh, a consensus has been reached? So sorry! :-/ --People of Antioch 00:59, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

It's not really a controversial change, so a strict consensus isn't necessary right now. If you have an issue with it, you could ask for people to provide opinions, but otherwise, there's no real need to worry about it. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 01:00, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) No problem - not quite sure on the specifics, but they are definitely not user images and should not be tagged as such. Category:Special images, perhaps, but not user images - those tags are to categorise them as appropriate, not to have for the time-being before it's used. -- Brains12 \ talk 01:02, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) EC 510 death!I have no problems with it. :-) Sorry for the inconvenience. I still fear for the day you guys, for whatever reason, have to revert a tagging run made by me (even bigger than that, I mean around 500 or so!). --People of Antioch 01:04, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Hehe, it'd give us something to do :P -- Brains12 \ talk 01:06, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, find out how to get all those icons un-orphaned. --People of Antioch 01:07, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

They're used on Poke's sandbox, aren't they? Anyway, it doesn't really matter if they are "orphaned" - they were just uploaded today and plan to be used in the near future. -- Brains12 \ talk 01:08, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

No, I meant the GW icons, sorry. --People of Antioch 01:09, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

meh! Another "clean" upload destroyed :( And I was planning to categorize them today.. So just wait :P poke | talk 09:47, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Deletion Log in RC toggle?

I'm assuming (since the option doesn't already appear) that there's not an option to toggle showing Deletion Log entries in Recent Changes. Would it be possible to create a script that adds an option to just quickly show/hide page deletes? It doesn't necessarily need to persist state across multiple views, although an option to set the default (hidden or shown) would be nice. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 17:58, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Selecting the hide patrolled edits hides deletions too. -- Brains12 \ talk 18:01, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, but it also hides every edit by a sysop, which is not my desired functionality. ;) (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 18:05, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Copy the following code into your browser's location bar and press enter (you can also save it as a bookmark, and click it when you need it):

javascript:var li, lis = document.evaluate( '//div[@id="bodyContent"]//li[ contains(a[1]/@title,"Special:Log/") ]', document, null, XPathResult.UNORDERED_NODE_ITERATOR_TYPE, null );var rm = new Array(); while((li=lis.iterateNext())){rm.push(li)}; while((li=rm.pop())){li.parentNode.removeChild(li);};void(0);

(Firefox only) poke | talk 18:07, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. :) (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 18:09, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

for(x in document.write){document.write(x);} (firefox only) - Y0_ich_halt 18:12, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

eh? poke | talk 18:15, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

No thanks, Y0. :) Edit: explanation for poke - http://www.modernlifeisrubbish.co.uk/article/how-to-crash-internet-explorer (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 18:15, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

while(true){alert(':P')} - How to crash Firefox all.. :P poke | talk 18:20, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) easier: http://www.crashie.com - Y0_ich_halt 18:21, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Kakarot's Question of the Day

Hey Poke, I was wondering if there was a way to modify my image naming template so that when it was placed on peoples talk pages it didn't include the code {{ #switch: user| user=User | guild=Guild}} as can be seen on this talk page but instead be replaced by the correct option. I figure it could be done using something similar to the code: [[<includeonly>{{subst:</includeonly>TALKPAGENAME<includeonly>}}</includeonly>|Discussion]] that I suggested on the ArenaNet suggestion pages but have no idea what to change. --Kakarot 04:06, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

I added a subst to it, and it should work like this. poke | talk 10:38, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Yep just tested and it worked, thanks :) --Kakarot 13:45, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Impossible category

Just wondering but why did you remove the deletion tag from Category:Users hours per day 27 since there are only 24 hours in a day? If it's because it has a person in it should we also create Category:Users hours per day 164 as well since there is someone that plays that as well? --Kakarot 15:29, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Meh, I removed the deletion tag because it was pending for about a week and I didn't want to delete it, as it doesn't matter - to me - how impossible the play style of some persons is :P And as nobody else deleted it, I removed it :) poke | talk 15:39, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Ok so you have no problem if I delete it? I would of before now but in situations where I'm the tagger I usually let someone else do it. --Kakarot 15:49, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Feel free to do it :P poke | talk 15:51, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

DPL

Hi, is there any way to add a Text before and after each Result Line? ie. Some Text Returned Article Some more Text
I would also like to get specific Parts from the Article Page that was found to be listed after the line... How can I archive this? For example the Reason given in the Deletion Template or Image Update Template etc.
PS: The Add a new Section Link on the Top Right Navigation leads to Wichiku's Talk Page - dont think thats intended ;) --SilentStorm 16:11, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I noticed that new section on other wikis :P

The format parameter allows to display something before the whole data, before each data, after each data, and after the whole data (each separated by , ); so you can do exactly what you want by setting format = ,Some Text,Some more Text,. For using templates, that are used on the page, or for getting specific sections, please see the DPL Manual, especially the include parameter. poke | talk 05:40, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Note that using the format parameter will autoset mode, to user, so you will not get the input desired. You can set mode, or just use the alias listseperators to get the desired effect. Tho' with leading text, you may find it preferable to include full formating. Backsword 13:39, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

yeah kinda works now thanks :) Just wondering though is it possible to have different Formatting if a specific Template is used? Would be kinda cool but if it aint possible I guess it wont hurt that much. --SilentStorm 00:18, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

You can create a template which is used instead of the original template but with the same parameters. See Template:Skill infobox.dpl and my DPL sandbox for an example. poke | talk 00:23, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Sandbox

Why was my personal Sandbox page deleted? I did not mark it for deletion at user request like it says. Nbajammer 16:15, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

For the record, the deletion log says this - 10:36, May 25, 2008 Poke (Talk | contribs) deleted "User:Nbajammer/Sandbox" ‎ (Speedy Deletion U1: User request.). I re-use this page to test my own coding, so I would never mark it user request. Can you please restore the page? Nbajammer 16:17, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Restored - the navbar that you tagged for deletion also included your main Sandbox in the category. -- Brains12 \ talk 16:19, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Very strange. I do not recall deleting the Sandbox page, only the navbar page itself. Is that because I tested it as a template? Nbajammer 16:23, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

putting a delete on a page will also put the delete on all pages where you include it, if you didn't put it inside nowiki-tags. - Y0_ich_halt 16:26, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Well that pretty much explains it, then. Thanks Brains! Nbajammer 16:27, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

(Edit conflict x2) Yeah - your navbar page had the deletion tag on, so it was added to the deletion category (and therefore GWW:DEL). Because the navbar page was included into your main sandbox as a template, the sandbox page was also added to GWW:DEL. To avoid this in future, you should put <noinclude> </noinclude> tags around {{delete}}. -- Brains12 \ talk 16:27, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

On the other hand, certain sysops should also check the pages they're deleting before actually deleting them. ;) (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 16:28, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

That too :P -- Brains12 \ talk 16:29, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Same goes with certain sysops should check the what links here link when deleting guild pages otherwise things like this or this happen just like I said it would :P --Kakarot 18:03, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

The same applies for blocking, right Brains? Calor 18:21, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Shuddup. -- Brains12 \ talk 19:11, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

<singsong> Brains is getting grouch-y! Brains is getting grouch-y! </singsong> Ahem *cough* Yes, Brains be careful when blocking urself--Sum Mesmer Guy contribs 19:21, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh, sorry for that; if that ever happens again, feel free to just ask for undeletion on the noticeboard.

Aiiane, I do check the page before deletion; for U1, I look at the history, if the last edits are made by that user, and that was the case.

Kakarot, I already said that I don't check the What links here for inactive guild pages, because that won't change their status of being inactive. And what was with those two pages? poke | talk 05:40, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Those two links were to redirects that I deleted after you deleted the actual guild page, see my last comment on the templates talk page. Also my name isn't Kakaron :P --Kakarot 15:26, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

oops :P poke | talk 17:58, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Something needs your attention

Ahem, I already went through some of them but could Wikichu do the rest. --Kakarot 17:59, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

If you're preoccupied, Poke, it can be done by hand in about five minutes by replacing all the Gaile logs pages with #REDIRECT [[ArenaNet:Developer Updates/{{subst:SUBPAGENAME}}]]. I think. Calor 18:35, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Maybe but doing it manually gets quite tedious after a short while although I don't think I could of used that when I did the Izzy ones. --Kakarot 18:44, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

*Looks at new tedious easy task* *gets to work* - anja 18:48, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Anjachu already started? :P I will look at the rest later :) poke | talk 05:40, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

lol Anjachu. --Kakarot 15:26, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Grats!

Finally off school, huh? ;) - anja 15:06, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Du hast deinen Abitur gemacht? Prima! -- Brains12 \ talk 15:10, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

you know what? that was perfect german, but it sounds odd, like what a voice robot would say :P grats, poke! - Y0_ich_halt 15:20, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Congrats Poke :) --Kakarot 15:23, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Congratz :D --Shadowphoenix 15:27, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Conga Rats. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 15:29, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Aww they are so cute =D --Shadowphoenix 15:31, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, all! :) poke | talk 17:58, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the word fix, I can never get these genders right... -- Brains12 \ talk 18:06, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Gratz Poke --SilentStorm 19:06, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Gratz poke! -- Salome 18:40, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you :) poke | talk 13:35, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

(yeah i'm a "Slowpoke" kinda) Gratz! —ZerphaThe Improver 22:08, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

hehe, thanks :) poke | talk 22:09, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Heads up about an upcoming update!

Hiya Poke! I figured I'd post this on your page since you've written a lot of the advanced templates that rely on ParserFunctions. Feel free to grab anyone else who would be affected and drag them into the conversation :)

We're planning on doing the 1.12 wiki upgrade very soon, and have been thoroughly testing it on our internal staging environment to make sure everything is good to go before we push it live. In our tests, we've discovered that some pretty significant changes have been made to ParserFunctions, and these changes break a few of the critical templates used here on the live site. Two of the templates that are being affected are the game updates one on the main page and the templates used on the game update pages. I've uploaded screens of what's going on here and here so you can see what I mean.

I've been told that these issues are widely reported, and are a result of the changes made to 1.12. The only fixes we've been able to find are to fix the code itself. Our team has updated ParserFunctions to version 1.1.1 in the hopes that the update would fix the problems, but unfortunately it didn't work. They offered to revert back to the old version if that's really wanted, but advise that we move forward to the new version. Here's the link to the functions.

Anyways, here's a link to meta of a compiled list of things that have changed in the new update. As you can see, there are a lot of fixes and streamlines in the way that the functions are written.

My question to you guys is simply how do you want us to handle the update? I have a feeling that if you make required syntax changes to the current templates, they'll break because it's not recognized, and it would also be difficult to test code sight unseen. If we push the updates live without the changes being made, there will definitely be broken templates. Here are a few ways I think we can go.

• We could make duplicates of the templates we know will be affected, and make the changes that will likely be required. I can then pull them onto the stage environment to see if the issues are fixed and then act as a go between. It's not the most effective way to do things since there may be a lot of back and forth, but it would work. Unfortunately, I can't provide access to the staging servers, as they are on our internal networks.
• We could revert critical templates (like the last updated and game updates) to manually updated page formats and move the problem templates to less public areas. When we do the upgrade, the time can be taken to fix the syntax issues without visibly affecting core pages. When they're back to normal, we can move them back into place. Again, it's not the most effective situation, but it will give you guys a live environment to test changes on. If we did this, we may want to make sure that we post a notice to the site to let people know that some things may be affected with the upgrade, and to give them a place to report broken templates that we may not see right away.

While this is being discussed, I'll take a look at the templates and see if I can resolve the issues myself. I don't really have the time to rewrite any of the complex templates, but if the fixes are relatively simple, I'd be more than happy to take a crack at them. It's possible that I can just get them functional before we push live and this will be a non-issue, but we'll have to see.

Anyways, the parser issue is the only thing we can identify as a show-stopper. Once we figure out how we should proceed, we'll go ahead with the upgrade. I just wanted to make sure that you guys are aware of the potential situation before it happens. Like usual, I'll make sure to let you know when we plan to update just in case there are any hiccups or downtime on the site.

Let me know what you think! I'll take a look at the functions now and keep an eye on this discussion to contribute where I can. -- Emily Diehl (talk) 21:43, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Hmm. I don't know how much effort poke or others want to go through prior to it moving live (or how much of a delay it would be), but from my point of view, game updates are infrequent enough occurrences that I think the simplest solution would just be to temporarily switch the templates over to manual updating for a brief period after the update until a new version can be developed (i.e. your 2nd option). The latest update template is particularly easy to update, and the game updates templating shouldn't be too bad. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 21:55, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I already informed myself about the parser changes in MW1.12 and wanted to propose the update on GWW:TECH in some days, so it's a good timing ;)

I thought that we could create a subpage of Guild Wars Wiki:Reporting wiki bugs for problems the parser changes so that editors that know about the changes can fix any problems with that. I would rather prefer to have it go live and fix it then immediately instead of putting up static versions for the known problems.

For the problems you listed above, it's not a problem with the ParserExtension but with DPL. It seems that the current DPL version works fine with MW 1.12+. But I'll make some tests on this... poke | talk 22:10, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Btw. for the two problems you listed above, it is probably enough to simply replace the DPL parser function to the parser extension, as the extension codes are evaluated before the parser functions (see this edit). Could you maybe try that on your test server if that solves the problem for that template? If so, the game update pages can be fixed easily as well. Problems with the new parser will only happen then when looking at some templates we created as workarounds for the old parser (for example {{setvar}}, {{getvar}}); or they will be completely redundant.

For the DPL problem it would be good to ask Rezyk if the current DPL version is stable with the new parser as he was involved with a fix I think. I'll ask him to answer here. poke | talk 22:21, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

"I would rather prefer to have it go live and fix it then immediately instead of putting up static versions for the known problems." - I wouldn't. Having broken templates on the Main Page is bad for both accessibility and just appearance in general; not to mention it would probably cause unnecessary questions from uninformed users about "why the main page is broken". It's not hard to put a static version in and then replace it with a dynamic version, and we really shouldn't be doing testing (which is what fixing things in-place would entail) on the Main Page. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 22:27, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I was referring there to other pages than the two, Emily listed above. poke | talk 22:28, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, you didn't specify so I was forced to assume you were talking about all of them. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 22:32, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Heh, sorry, I thought it was clear as I mentioned the two problems only after that ^^ The first sentences were mostly a (very) short conclusion of what was my idea before Emily posted this here. poke | talk 22:35, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

First step should be to implement the update to DPL 1.7.4 for these DPL issues with MW 1.12. It fixes them all in theory (though of course the implementation might always be flawed). For the staging environment, additional sample pages that should be checked are: List of touch skills and List of warrior skills. --Rezyk 01:59, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, Rezyk! You're a wiki ninja! I got word back that the DPL upgrade from MediaWiki's site didn't work (it was to 1.6.8), but the link you provided to 1.7.4 worked like a charm. All seems to be well on this end now, so I'm going to take a final pass at the site on staging and see if I notice anything broken. If everything looks good, we'll schedule a maintenance period for next week. I'll keep you posted. Again, thanks for all the input. You guys will have lots of newly upgraded shiny wiki stuff very shortly :) -- Emily Diehl (talk) 18:55, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Emily! Calor 18:56, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

A true ninja would have remained undetected..

Some preemptive notes (since I will be away): If the upgrade still ends up breaking things badly enough, you can always try switching back to the old parser under MW1.12 by adding $wgParserConf['class'] = 'Parser_OldPP'; to LocalSettings.php. The new ParserFunctions and new DPL both work in that mode too. I don't think much else should break other than getvar/setvar, which we can fix by then switching them to the "obvious" implementation that doesn't work in the old parser (I think Poke understands this already). --Rezyk 08:45, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Hibberjibber -- Brains12 \ talk 13:02, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you Emily :) And yes, Rezyk, I do understand :) Finally we can work with the VariablesExtension in a more logical way :) poke | talk 15:28, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Sysop page

Is it at all possible on wiki software to have a page that only people with certain user rights can see, for example sysops only? It's just that I had an idea for the wiki; well actually I've had this idea for a while now but kept forgetting to ask; that would require something like this. --Kakarot 00:41, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

The only way I can see that happening is creating the page and immediately deleting it. I don't think you can restrict viewing except through LocalSettings, and that would require a whole user group or something. :P Linky to MediaWiki - anja 04:32, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

No, I don't think that is possible. The only protection level, MediaWiki offers is to prevent specific user groups from editing pages but everybody can see every page. poke | talk 15:28, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Damn :( --Kakarot 15:30, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

.js tools, etc.

I've got a question for you. I noticed that you created the Collapsible/Expandable coding for the wiki... do you mind particularly if another wiki were to use the coding as well? I like your coding a lot better then the others I've seen (such as the one on GuildWiki)... and Bulbapedia is currently sans-coding for any collapsible tables, so I'd like to use yours, if that's okay with you. (with your credits section as well, of course.) -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 09:42, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Sure that would be ok, but because of the different license I would like to publish the script myself; Is it possible that you - as you are an admin there - remove/rename the currently existing account "Poke" (0 contributions) so I can take it? :D Otherwise I'll register with another name :( poke | talk 13:25, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Wikia would have to do it, so may end up being named Ooke or something. -- Brains12 \ talk 13:28, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

That is not Wikia? Otherwise I could login with poke there :P poke | talk 13:29, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Sure, I can see about getting the account moved or deleted. I can't actually remove/rename myself, but the b.crat can, so I'll ask him if it's possible. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 22:26, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

That would be great, thanks :) poke | talk 22:30, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Poke

Want a cookie?-- Wynthyst 13:34, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

YAY! COOKIES!!!! poke | talk 13:37, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

13:37, 11 June 2008 (UTC) omg its a sign -- Brains12 \ talk 13:58, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

closely looked at, it is a signature >.> - Y0_ich_halt 14:02, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

...I cried after reading that. Calor 18:39, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

1337ness - Y0_ich_halt 19:04, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Yet Another dpl question

Hey Poke, I was wondering if there was any way to use dpl to check if the title of a page matches any registered user name (any name listed in Special:Listusers? I know it's a long shot but I figured I'd ask anyway. If it's not possible would it be possible to check if the user who created the article is the same as the title of the article and if not produce a list of the articles that don't? Part of the reason I'm asking now is because of the recent creation of this user image template which makes use of something that gets the creators name, there is also this guild image template but I don't think thats relevant. Sorry to keep coming to you but since you are so active and have a more extensive knowledge of these kind of things you are the best choice. --Kakarot 17:00, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

As all Special Pages are no actual Pages on the Wiki but rather dynamically generated when Loaded DPL cant check those Pages unfortunately. At least that's the only Explanation I can come up with why several of my Tries regarding DPL'ing Special Pages did not work. --SilentStorm 17:09, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

I figured based on my own previous tests as much but no harm in asking :) --Kakarot 17:23, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

DPL cannot get information from Special pages and it especially cannot compare things. And the only possibility to get the creators name is to go on the history. poke | talk 17:44, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Wikichu request

Hey Poke do you mind setting up Wikichu to change all occurrences of {{PAGENAME}} from quest articles and maybe other articles if that's how they are supposed to be according to their respective guideline? I would do it but since there is so many I'd rather have a bot do it for the RCs sake of course :p --Kakarot 19:19, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't think it would be a problem to leave it as it is. I'm changing that from time to time when editing a page with that with Wikichu, but changing all pages for that is a bit unneeded imo :P poke | talk 19:21, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Ok maybe include it if you ever need to do something bigger to all quest articles. In the meantime if I am ever editing one and notice it I will make the change. --Kakarot 19:45, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

That would be what I always do, yes :P poke | talk 19:55, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

wikichu substing

how about substing the unsigned templates (Template:Unsigned)? it's reached about 300 unsubstituted inclusions now. - Y0_ich_halt 20:49, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

*sigh* I will take a look at it next week. poke | talk 20:53, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

talking about {{Unsigned}}, do you think you could create a SineBot for GWW? Or would that be too much work? Idk whether that's even possible as this bot is permanently active. Or do you think having a bot would be annoying? —ZerphaThe Improver 21:18, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

It would be possible but would, as you said, require permanent activity.. Not sure how I could do this in a nice way.. But I'll think about it. poke | talk 21:20, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Help with a new icon

Hey poke! I totally suck at icons, and the one I did Image:Award icon.png doesn't seem to meet with quality standards :P Any chance you could maybe do something better?-- Wynthyst 12:08, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Sure, I'll think about it, but maybe Pling has a good idea first ;) poke | talk 12:17, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you kind sir

For informing me after deleting my image; I'm glad such strong communication takes place on this wiki. --Metroid 21:56, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Uhm, is that sarcasm? I don't remember it :P If I really did, you're welcome :) poke | talk 16:35, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Pokebox

Hey, I took your "Pokebox" and made it a template. I'm not sure if it's been done before, but I tought you might want to know without having to look at Special:Recentchanges--File:User Horsedrowner avatar.jpg horsedrowner 07:23, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

poke, i think you figured the best way to make cornered (i.e. without -moz-border-radius) boxes look good. - Y0_ich_halt 12:15, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Nice idea :) And no, I didn't see it, I was celebrating my graduation the last two days so I wasn't around that much ;)

Thanks, Y0. To be honest, I hate the -moz-border-radius properties :P (Probably due to the non-standardness :P) poke | talk 16:35, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi

I Wikichu, don't you? ;D --Shadowphoenix 21:21, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh god, what have we done... -- Brains12 \ talk 21:21, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

I can still G3 it away! poke | talk 21:23, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Bad news SP + Wub = wiki drama! Halogod35 21:23, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

How? :S --Shadowphoenix 21:25, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Common sense says so. :/ Just kidding I you Shadow Phoenix. :D Halogod35 21:27, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

lol :o) --Shadowphoenix 21:28, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

You were like the only person to actually say Hai to me when I came here. :P Halogod35 21:32, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Then why are you posting on my page? -.- poke | talk 21:33, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Cause the discussion started here. :P Halogod35 21:35, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

meh :P poke | talk 21:37, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) <--- random File:User Horsedrowner avatar.jpg horsedrowner 20:52, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

GWW's image cache

I've been trying to upload some new icons over some older, preexisting ones and I've noticed strange things with the site's cache. I'd upload an icon and see the version I uploaded soon after. Later, when I revisit again but flush my browser cache on FF or IE (happens with both), it's reverted back to the older version, after several hours. I don't think this was a problem before the site maintenance not too long ago. Jennalee 06:53, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, that's weird.. Did the problem resolve itself later, or is it still the same? And did you look always at the image description page, or a page that uses the image? poke | talk 15:03, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Both. I'm looking again today, haven't uploaded over anything else, and some images have finally decided which version to use, it seems but others are still displaying the older version. As well, it appears to me that some of the image previews don't update - see Gallery of hammers and look at the Deldrimor Maul. I looked at that weeks ago and it's still not updated for me. Jennalee 01:03, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey Poke, I think I might have a similar problem with one image. This image was originally tagged for Image update because of having the creators name on the image. DominatorMatrix's recent edit appears to suggest that this was fixed by the recent upload but even after over 24 hours it still shows up as the original image for me, no change. This is the first image that I've noticed so can you have a look and tell me if the image is different than the original? --Kakarot 04:00, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Did the server have a rollback or what? As now its the old version again, and so is my monks amour. Dominator Matrix 04:03, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Hmm. When I looked at the Deldrimor Maul first, when you said that, I saw the problem, but now, both are correct including the Hell's Precipice one. poke | talk 10:05, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Dude

"11:29 (Deletion log)‎ [Poke‎ (303×)]" -- That's some serious burninating. --Star Weaver 15:54, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Gj Poke. — ク Eloc 貢 20:01, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

change for policy status template

Heh, even though I knew it was comming, looking at my watch list this morning almost gave me a heart attack. --Xeeron 07:40, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

hehe, sorry :P poke | talk 09:46, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Same :( Calor 14:06, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't think I have ever seen so much bold and blue text in my life =D --Shadowphoenix 15:41, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

What about this then? poke | talk 15:44, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Wow, poke is twisted. In a good way. :~D. --Star Weaver 15:45, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh god! To... much... blue... --Shadowphoenix 15:48, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Wrong blue, poke. - anja 21:19, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I knew this was coming -.- poke | talk 21:21, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Hehe, at your service ;) - anja 21:24, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks A lot!

Thanks a lot for fixing my user page poke, much appreciated, will probably end up messing it up soon anyway hehe —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Words can heal (talk • contribs) at 20:52, 24 June 2008 (UTC).

Your welcome :) Also please sign your comments, thanks :) poke | talk 21:05, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I'll try to remember, thanks again Words can heal 15:53, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

HELP!

I need help poke :P-- Wynthyst 10:24, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

wtb worded questions... :D poke | talk 10:28, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Help! I need somebody

Help! Not just anybody

Help! You know I need someone

Help!

When I was younger so much younger than today

I never needed anybody's help in any way

But now these days are gone

I'm not so self assured

Now I find I've changed my mind

I've opened up the doors

Help me if you can I'm feeling down

And I do appreciate you being 'round

Help me get my feet back on the ground

Won't you please please help me?

And now my life has changed in oh so many ways

My independence seems to vanish in the haze

But every now and then I feel so insecure

I know that I just need you like

I've never done before

Help me if you can I'm feeling down

And I do appreciate you being 'round

Help me get my feet back on the ground

Won't you please please help me?

When I was younger so much younger than today

I never needed anybody's help in any way

But now these days are gone

I'm not so self assured

Now I find I've changed my mind

I've opened up the doors

Help me if you can I'm feeling down

And I do appreciate you being 'round

Help me get my feet back on the ground

Won't you please please help me? Help me, help me, ooh.

^_^ (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 15:34, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Yay! Another 1398 bytes for my archive! poke | talk 15:38, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

You're all nuts. -- Brains12 \ talk 15:50, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

I concur, you are all nuts. Calor 15:54, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

It's been a hard day's night! --People of Antioch 17:18, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't want to spoil the party, but it's always like that, eight day's a week. --Xeeron 18:15, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

And 13 months a day... poke | talk 18:18, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

All things must pass. --People of Antioch 19:59, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

You too

You too? -- Brains12 \ talk 14:32, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

hehe :D unfortunately not yet :( But hey I was the first tho ;) --SilentStorm 14:47, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

and as soon as i had made mine you copied it :P - Y0_ich_halt 16:15, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

NO I did not copy it.. I just borrowed your Font Size and alignment Stuff which wasnt working for me :P --SilentStorm 18:31, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

the code looks suspiciously similar, though XD - Y0_ich_halt 21:02, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, why not :D poke | talk 14:55, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

not as good as the original(s) but at least the colors are there... --SilentStorm 15:19, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

At least I can still say that I have a user page :P poke | talk 15:21, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh my god. My eyes. Grats :P - anja 17:30, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

lol :P poke | talk 17:45, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

picture thumbnail wont update

Hey poke, I'mworking on the mesmer mask armour galleries and for some reason the elite kurzick mask thumbnail just wont update. I've waited almost 8 hours for it to do so, but still it wont update. Am i doing something wrong? -- Salome 12:02, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

The image cache is really weird atm, I asked Emily to have the cache checked. Until something changes the only thing we can do is wait :( poke | talk 12:14, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Just a message to say thanks for some code I used from your monobook.css file; I'm using the code to colour the RC page. Hope you don't mind me using it :P -- Indochine talk 17:19, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome :) poke | talk 17:48, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Danke

Hallo. Ich möchte mich mal bei dir für die Hilfe bei unserer Wiki Seite bedanken (Dark Icy Pandas [dip])!
Gruss Waldi von den [Dark Icy Pandas] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Waldschrat (talk • contribs) at 17:34, 29 June 2008 (UTC).

Gern geschehen :) aber dankt nicht nur mir, sondern vor allem auch Wyn, da sie sich hauptsächlich drum gekümmert hat und ich mehr oder weniger in ihrem Auftrage gehandelt hab ^^ poke | talk 17:37, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Bild löschen aber wie

Hi habe folgendes Problem,

wollte ein Bild hinzufügen was mir auch gelungen ist aber das erste schlug Fehl, daraufhin hab ich es verkleinert, was aber auch Probleme bereitete. Jedenfalls hab ich auf das neue geklickt und siehe da es funktionierte, alles wurde dargestellt. Jedenfalls bin ich dann zwei mal auf Revert gegangen um die alten Bilder zu löschen, welche sich aber dann verdoppelten. Nun weiß ich leider nicht wie ich die Bilder unter diesem LInk löschen kann http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Image:Aidan_Location.jpg

Vielen Dank eure Feanta —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Feanta (talk • contribs) at 02:08, 30 June 2008 (UTC).

Bilder löschen kannst du selber garnicht ;) Du kannst {{delete}} reineditieren in die Seite um deren Löschung zu erbitten ;) Ausserdem bitte hinter Kommentare ~~~~ schreiben. --SilentStorm 03:50, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Ich hab für dich aufgeräumt :) poke | talk 10:45, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Could I get your help?

User:Shadowphoenix/Sandbox/Collectors the focus items are screwed up; I don't see what I did wrong :P... could you help me out :o) --Shadowphoenix 17:38, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Fixed. When you are using the one-line syntax for table cells (||), the line containing those have to start with a new cell. poke | talk 17:44, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Empty Talk?

Is confusing me. --SilentStorm 14:14, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

O.o Calor 15:24, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

sry but couldnt resist SilentStorm 17:46, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

coding issue

Do you think this would be doable? Or would that be too much work / too complicated / not worth implementing? —ZerphaThe Improver 16:52, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

answered. poke | talk 17:03, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

thanks —ZerphaThe Improver 17:08, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Videos on wikis

"Also when I look at a familar other wiki which allows embedding youtube videos, I have another reason why it isn't a good idea."

Having not thought about this before, I am interested, can you point me to some examples that show why videos are a bad idea on wikis? --Xeeron 16:15, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

With this I meant GuildWiki; wikia allows direct embedding of youtube videos. I think Shadowphoenix has some videos on her user page. poke | talk 18:58, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Just a few... --Lemming 19:35, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

lol, yes I have a lot on there. Honestly, I think they could come in handy for maybe maps and such in articles (even skill animations). Although Anet won't allow embedding as Emily has stated. --Shadowphoenix 20:11, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, Shadowphoenix user shows that male internet users will listen to rants elitist whiners worse than the average Izzy talk page entry, if only they are presented by a good looking, not to fully clad female homo sapiens. I did not manage to spot the part where it actually damages the wiki while watching them all though ;-) --Xeeron 20:48, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I don't like it <_< It's a wiki not a personal website in the end.. poke | talk 20:50, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

do the embed codes from youtube work? or the <youtube> tags?--Sum Mesmer Guy contribs 20:49, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

meh? Not here...? poke | talk 20:50, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

@Xeeron: no comment >< (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 21:05, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

@SP - Skill animations could be done in a similar way to the dance page with animated gifs if somebody had way to much time on their hands or something. --Lemming 21:13, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Emily doesn't coincidentally have a program similar to her model rendering program that allows her to upload those .gif animations? That would remove the need of youtube embeddings :P

Btw, on several pages i created an external link to an accordant youtube video in the trivia section if something was a reference to a song for example,. It that ok or shouln't youtube videos be on the mainspace of GWW at all? —ZerphaThe Improver 21:22, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Meh! Could you continue the discussion about documentating skill animations on the project talk page and about content please on the community talk page or any formatting page please? :P Thanks! poke | talk 21:44, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Links like that are perfectly fine, Zerpha. Calor 21:47, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Wait poke, are you telling me that the GWW:RFTA shortcut isn't properly pointing to this page? I'd better go fix that then. :P (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 21:52, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, after my talk page will be merged with GWW:BOT there is not really that much room to include GWW:RFTA as well, sorry. poke | talk 21:54, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Subpages ftw. Calor 21:55, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Sry poke, didn't know the sound project started, or that the skill animations are included there :P —

And thanks for pointing that out, calor :) —ZerphaThe Improver 12:48, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

xD

This User (=Seru) hates dealing with the GFDL and other copyrights.

— Renuro Seru Talk 20:24, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

I saw it already on your talkpage :P poke | talk 20:30, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Clock

Thank you for adding it, along with Aiiane. :) —ZerphaThe Improver 20:51, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

it's good to have a ?action=purge button ^^ i was thinking about adding a little box to the left nav, but that's just fine. - Y0_ich_halt 22:02, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

That is just one thing I copied from Aiiane's copy from wikipedia :P I'll probably add ?action=purge manually in the same way I did in the past though.. :P poke | talk 22:03, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeh, that clock is pretty sweet. Nice to be able to compare comment timestamps with the server's actual time. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 22:36, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Interview translation

Thank you, poke! I do translation for a living, so I know how much time (and brain power) it takes to translate things, and I just wanted you to know that your efforts haven't gone unappreciated! :D Kokuou 00:11, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

No, they sure haven't. Calor 00:12, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome :) There were some really hard passages, where I had to look up a bit, and yeah, my head did hurt after that.. :) poke | talk 00:15, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, poke : ) I know how hard it is to translate stuff, too. Your work is really going to help us non-German speakers. Erasculio 00:29, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

poke, i think i'll have to hit you for stealing my credit XDDD - Y0_ich_halt 16:00, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

dwayna vs grenth

hey can you do the delete/move thing for Dwayna vs Grenth like you did for the rollerbeetle arena? --VVong|BA 20:38, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Here you are. poke | talk 20:54, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

cool thx! --VVong|BA 21:38, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

My Guild

Yeah, you know what you may as well just take down the guild if you haven't already. I have not been here on Wiki for nearly a year, and it's been longer since I played the game, so it doesn't even exist anymore really. Crenel 02:13, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Ah, yeah, it was already deleted some while ago :) poke | talk 12:54, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

being hacked

I'm not trying to be a prick in any way mate but I just want to know why you feel its is the victims fault for being hacked? From, Xavier —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 91.74.86.221 (talk • contribs) at 10:33, 12 July 2008 (UTC).

Uhm? Is there any relation to something I said? I probably said that somewhere on Gaile's talk page, right? I don't remember the context, but you cannot "hack" Guild Wars accounts; you can only steal the account data from someone, and there are in my opinion enough things you can do, to prevent that. Of course it is not ok, that other people even try to get someone else's account, but that doesn't change the fact that people should be more interested in securing their account data and computers. poke | talk 12:54, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Poke is...

Getting his block on. Hey, I know it doesn't get said too much, but thanks for helping the wiki out by keeping the baddies away. Thanks Poke! --People of Antioch 06:33, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

hehe, that's my job, right? :D but I wonder where the rest of us admins was this night... (*looks at Aiiane*) poke | talk 06:35, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Aiiane was not there for us when she was needed, take down her statue and erect a new one of Poke our savior. Aiiane is banished :O --Shadowphoenix 06:37, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

wut? (<ChanServ> poke: wut?) poke | talk 06:38, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Poke is obviously superior to aiiane. ~Shard 06:39, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

-- Wynthyst 07:07, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

I've said it before and I'll say it again: you're all nuts. -- Brains12 \ talk 15:20, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

If so, do we care? :P Calor 15:46, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

-- Brains12 \ talk 15:48, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Palm trees on red island on blue ocean :DDD Calor 15:53, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Let's replace the image in the wub template with that one! :D poke | talk 17:08, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

If you do it, do it while I'm gone so there's no uber-wikilag for me. And you may wanna protect {{wub}}, considering all the times it's used unsubstituted. Calor 17:25, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Don't you dare turn my archive of {{wub}} spam into that :P The wrath of [GOD] will fall on your head!-- Wyn 17:33, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm afraid the wrath of [GOD] is just about nothing compared to the wrath of the waves I'm experiencing (or was, twenty minutes ago). You need to find a new Calor-elimination method, I suspect. Calor 17:36, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Your waves are nothing compared to the wrath of [GOD]! *goes off to prepare the [GOD] army to fight the ones who want to change {{wub}}* --Shadowphoenix 18:00, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

[GOD] pwns!--Sum Mesmer Guy contribs 18:56, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Image:Hydra (Crystal Desert).jpg

Kakarot deleted the old revision but this image still refuses to update on all pages, can you delete and reupload it since its the only images that wont update? here is the link. Fall 17:48, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

The cache will stay even if I delete the image, so I tried to just reupload the image. Also the only page which seems to be not working is the miniature page. I'll check later if it changes and will try other things if it didn't work. poke | talk 17:54, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Its broken here too. thanks ^^ Fall 18:00, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

It has updated :) poke | talk 16:48, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks ^^ Fall 13:58, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Image:Tick yellow.png

thanks :) —ZerphaThe Improver 21:23, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

as I said: You're welcome. :P poke | talk 21:29, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Copyvios

Please see my comment on Wynthyst's page under "wintersday gift". As per third bullet in copyright policy, information is not copyrightable, only its expression. Something like percentage info is not a literary work in its own right and therefore there is no copyvio to reproduce that information.Cassie 19:12, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

I've commented there, but I would like you to not spread discussions over multiple different pages. poke | talk 19:57, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Actually, that's precisely what I was trying to avoid. The main discussion was split between three locations (2 user pages and the article talk) so I thought it best to redirect the participants to one place... I only put some substance on your page so you'd know what I was talking about. Sorry if I inadvertantly achieved the opposite.Cassie 21:00, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Skill box icon code

Hey Poke, not sure what's wrong but the code class="skill-box Profession" doesn't seem to be working at all as it did last time I checked. I first noticed the problem on my character template and then checked Lensors template and neither seemed to show the icons where they used to. I then checked a skill page and it seemed to still be working on them so then went to the Skill infobox template to check if the code had changed. I did notice it used the code class="infobox skill-box Profession instead although based on the history it had used that code since before the one I use stopped working. Just wondering if you know what might be causing the code that has worked since before I first created my template to no longer work all of a sudden? --Kakarot 02:40, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Prezzie!!!!

This user is an official user of a Pikachu...ehhmmm Wikichu.

hmmm...maybe this for an appropriate (missing on your userpage) userbox? --Silverleaf 09:46, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

genious —ZerphaThe Improver 09:56, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Changed for copyvio? Backsword 13:14, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah :(. Admit...the original one was briljant ;-). --Silverleaf 13:27, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Yea, it was better. But you were still right in removing it. Backsword 13:36, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

hehe, thanks :D I should ask someone, who is really good in arts, to draw a "Wikichu" for me ^^ poke | talk 13:42, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

There was one but "someone" pointed out the copyvio :(. --Silverleaf 13:53, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

I know, that's why I have the idea of a unique "Wikichu" :P —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Poke (talk • contribs) at 14:10, 26 July 2008 (UTC).

Sign your comments plz =D --Sum Mesmer Guy contribs 14:21, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

meh! poke | talk 14:29, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

I smell more Tango! -- Brains12 \ talk 16:04, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Poke, what exactly does Wikichu look like to you (out of curiosity)? Calor 16:35, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

It looks like this.. Image:User Poke Wikichu.jpg :/ poke | talk 16:36, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

A Pikachu with a green stripe up its stomach? Calor 16:38, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

unfortunately it's holidays, so i won't be having time to draw a wikichu for you :P - Y0_ich_halt 16:56, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Copyvio free. :). --Silverleaf 19:27, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

HTF?Backsword 19:45, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Closest i could make it to the original one :). --Silverleaf 07:31, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

eh...? poke | talk 12:25, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

The original one had the real picachu as a pic and every one started yelling copivio. So i turned it to the green one to stop the yelling. But the original one was yellow. Just needed a yellow wabbit to make it back to the first layout. --Silverleaf 12:11, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

*poke*

Hate to bug you, but did you manage to get anywhere as far as coding show/hide boxes on Bulbapedia? You get set up there, then suddenly went quiet. Not sure if you suddenly because busy, or if you forgot about it...

..oh, and I'm sorely tempted to make a picture of Wikichu now. My last attempt to make a Pokémon-themed picture (CG-style Mudkip, anyone?) ended up dying out, but perhaps when I'm not busy I'll try doodling Wikichu. Hmm... if coding was a Pikachu-like creature, what would it look like? -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 09:35, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

A yellow Rabbit? --Silverleaf 12:20, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, I totally forgot about that. However I added a section on my talk page with instructions, how to add it. poke | talk 19:24, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Yep, I got it. The coding's added, and doesn't seem to work yet, but it could just be the server catching up. Mind checking on it in a day or so just to make sure? -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 06:58, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

corrected the code, see the talk page again ^^ poke | talk 13:38, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Updated it to reflect your changes. Still doesn't work yet, but the server's not super fast, so I'm waiting to see if it just hasn't "kicked in" yet. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 20:28, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Fix#2, should work now.. :/ poke | talk 12:24, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) On another note, how is/did the programing for the player go?--People of Antioch 18:56, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, I'm kind of waiting for Emily to give me more information about how it will be done; the player in it's basic is working fine. poke | talk 20:32, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Bleh. THanks a bunch Poke, I'm pretty sure it'll work this time now. But Bulbapedia just did a server move/update or something, so I'm waiting for it all to settle down. Good news, it actually accesses your .js page now, so I think that means it works. But the .js page is missing while the database sorts itself out... ever seen this before? -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 11:40, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Wtf? I'm unable to edit the page, always getting edit conflicts, so I cannot readd the code. When you are online again, and the problem still exists, please delete the page (+talk page); then I'll try to readd it. poke | talk 13:25, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Scratch that, the database worked itself out. There were a bunch of random pages missing, but they all work now. The show/hide boxes work a treat now too. You're the man, Poke. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 16:01, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Ah great :) The talk page is still not working, but if it resolves itself, it's fine. poke | talk 16:10, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Really? It works on my end, that's how I had checked to see if it worked when I made my last post. Maybe you just needed to clear cache on your end, or you caught it at a bad time. >.< -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 11:19, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

help :(

What is it with the German guild page editors??? Guild:Zitadelle Des Todes -- Wyn 12:03, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

what's the problem? - Y0_ich_halt 12:10, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

mass recent changes spam I think, though not so much of it today. --Lemming 12:10, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, for one thing I don't read German, but I know that skill bars don't belong on a guild page, and neither does the amount members have donated toward the guild hall, basically, I have left the editor 2 messages on his talk page regarding the policies, and guidelines, and I get zero response, and he just keeps adding stuff. I don't know if he doesn't read English, or just doesn't care, so maybe a note in German??? -- Wyn 12:13, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

i think he's a wikinoob and doesn't know there's a talk page. it really is like that, everybody knows wikipedia and uses it for stuff in school, but when i tell them 'i posted a comment on the talk page there', they ask me 'what talk page?' - Y0_ich_halt 12:23, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

i just removed it, maybe he'll notice the talk page like this. i hope so, at least. - Y0_ich_halt 12:26, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

obviously, neither me just editing nor the orange box made him notice or at least ask me what he did wrong. - Y0_ich_halt 15:52, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

A distinct lack

..of wub spam. *runs* - anja 17:44, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

yay! they've found my page, damn! :P poke | talk 17:52, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

MUWAHAHAHAHA --Shadowphoenix 08:28, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

-- Wyn 10:25, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

{{placeholder}}? <HORSEDROWNER> 10:58, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, creates the whitespace :D -- Wyn 11:00, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

That's mildly impressive, I must say... the next step-up from ASCII giftart? -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 11:22, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks :D

btw. link, link, link, link, link and link! That for "the next step-up from ASCII art" :D poke | talk 11:28, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

For me to miss such a vibrant and loving wiki meme like this, obviously I'm not hanging out in talk pages here enough... >.< -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 11:31, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Cinematics

Could i get you're signature of support to change it to Brain's idea here. — Seru Talk 21:37, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Answered there. poke | talk 22:49, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

?

why not tango? — Seru Talk 17:47, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

tango icons are simpler. the leaf image just doesn't follow the guidelines. - Y0_ich_halt 17:49, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

This is Tango. -- Brains12 \ talk 18:16, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

GWWT and the clock

I'm still learning how to use GWWT, and every now and then I see you or someone else mentioniong adding this piece of code or that piece of code to GWWT to make it do whatever it is supposed to. Does it matter where I put it in the monobook.js? Also how do I get rid of/hide the clock at the top of the wiki when Im logged in? I think that had something to do with the monobook as well but I am not sure. Nbajammer 21:09, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Heh, for Guild Wars Wiki Tools see this page (including instructions on how to install); to get rid of the clock see this page for a short how-to :) If you have any further questions, feel free to ask :) poke | talk 21:13, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Game updates/20080807

lol I was wondering who would have the "fun" of wikifying the recent updates page. --Kakarot 00:28, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

heh, it took quite a while, but there is no red link (apart from the new added npc), so I'm quite proud of it xD Now for the dev update! poke | talk 00:30, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Izzy talk

Where the fuck should people give POSITIVE feedback about the update if they can't do it on Izzy's talk page? Negative feedback, yes, as that's mostly just "you suck go die", instead of suggestions, so I can UNDERSTAND you want to rev that stuff. But POSITIVE feedback? Come on, what is this, communist country? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mini Me (talk • contribs) at 20:44, 8 August 2008 (UTC).

It doesn't matter if it is positive or negative. Skill balance feedback belongs to the ArenaNet:Skill feedback pages. Apart from that there are also update talk pages and dev update talk pages where you can post. Just stop posting on user talk pages for every thing you want to discuss with anybody. User talk pages are to address the user, not the skill balancing team or someone else. poke | talk 21:05, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Oh okay, so why didn't you remove the rest of the comments, hmmm? They're not addressing Izzy, well, sort of, but anyway, they are about the update and for that reason should be posted on the update talk page, yes? -- Mini Me 21:12, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

I was tempted to remove the first comment directly after it was posted, but kept it; the rest of that is related to that in some way. poke | talk 21:17, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

May I ask why you were tempted to remove it? -- Mini Me 21:20, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

That was due to a discussion in IRC before; but that doesn't matter here. It would just be great if it would be possible to leave that page a user talk page as it was designed for. poke | talk 21:21, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

It does matter, or else I wouldn't be asking. If you were tempted to remove that, a simple thank you + keep up the good work, well, that's a bit too strict. Also sorry for being so aggressive in my first post. -- Mini Me 21:26, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

. . .

and on another note I made a project page if you want to join the project.— Seru Talk 21:37, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

meh, still no tango! :P And sorry, content projects are not something I like to work regulary on ^^ (maybe I'll help with one or another though :P) poke | talk 21:42, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

I changed the tangoness of it. You can delete the tango version. I got the leaf from the GW.dat there's a red one too! — Seru Talk 21:45, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

upload the red one please as well! :] poke | talk 12:02, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

like that? — Seru Talk 20:23, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Because you know it had to be done! --Kakarot 20:28, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

great! It looks more vital now! poke | talk 20:33, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

It does look nice. :) — Seru Talk 20:49, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you very much for your support on my RfA. I hope I can live up to everyone's expectations. Honestly, I was surprised by the overwhelming support I received. -- Wyn 07:20, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Welcome to the team ^^ poke | talk 12:02, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Request

Can you add something about a cinematic to this template? — Seru Talk 23:24, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

That's not necessary -- all cinematic images are screenshots, so {{screenshot}} should be used. -- Brains12 \ talk 23:28, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Aye they are not arenanet images so they should just have the screenshot category. --Lemming 23:31, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Can you at least make a category? — Seru Talk 23:32, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

They don't need a category.. they are just screenshots, similar to how screenshots for weapons, armour, locations, maps, etc don't have their own special category. -- Brains12 \ talk 23:35, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

I think they should :\ — Seru Talk 23:40, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

But not with the ArenaNet image template. Use an additional category if you like. poke | talk 06:33, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Fire Aint Cold

...and Lyonell Steelfist are the same person. They forgot their first login password, so they remade it, and made their first page a redirect. az :D 21:41, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, ok then :P Wasn't really clear from the history. For the talk page, it should remain as it is. poke | talk 21:44, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Wasn't really sure about that, though. Shouldn't it be moved to Lyonell's new talk page? az :D 21:51, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Ah, as Lyonell's talk page isn't created yet, just move it :) poke | talk 21:53, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Of course, what's on his former talk page were messages from me complaining about his laziness opposing him making character pages... az :D 21:56, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

hehe :D poke | talk 21:57, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

input

Can I get your input on the box here. Fall 15:59, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

That is? If you want to expand the ArenaNet images category, we need to do that through the ArenaNet image template, and I plan to change/expand there a lot soon. poke | talk 16:22, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

I'll just categorize the images in what categories we have for now then. Fall 16:25, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

yeah, that's ok. poke | talk 16:30, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

I noticed you deleted Category:Arenanet armor renders but you forgot to update Template:ArenaNet image with Category:ArenaNet armor renders :) Fall 00:56, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

oh yeah, the description was wrong :P thanks poke | talk 01:16, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Can you PLEASE do the list for....

Can you please do the list for Category:Map image update needed????? I can't get them all to show up on one page with your fancy headers and stuff.-- Wyn 21:31, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Here you are: Guild Wars Wiki:Projects/Images to update/Map images. poke | talk 06:46, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

thanks

for fixing it :) —ZerphaThe Improver 07:49, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome ;) poke | talk 15:30, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

nice

nice deletion spree :) totally covered all of rc — Seru Talk 22:06, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

heh, not enough things to delete though - there are still some other entries visible :P poke | talk 22:07, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

yeah. i should add you to this template o.o — Seru Talk 22:08, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

and ok im being a bit slow here but where do i report a problem with the new update? — Seru Talk 22:13, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

What kind of a problem? Browse through the ArenaNet:Portal to the suggestion page that fits your need. poke | talk 22:14, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Hero MM lets the minions die. he doesnt use blood of the masters outside of combat — Seru Talk 22:15, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

ArenaNet:AI bugs ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(talk) 01:37, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Umm thx but i already posted about that . . .— Seru Talk 01:39, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

To me they have always been like that, only now is it more clear :/. Dominator Matrix 01:47, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

No i can tell. He did try at least b4 the update. 01:49, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

The Community Portal...

...is a place I feel I'm better off avoiding. Too many times I have taken part in an important conversation like the ones that go on there, and had my own words twisted so other's can achieve their own goals, which have often been contradictory of my own. I have sent two conversations like this to Hell in a hand basket because I said something for Anet's benafit, and the wiki users got ahold of it and used it against my point. I didn't know that it was possible for it to be dangerous to a conversation for a given person to give vital input, but I seem to be wrong. Things seem to be crazy and heated enough as is there, and I don't want to be the catalyst that pushes things over the edge. It's sad because discussions like that are what I come to the wiki for and most enjoy, but I always seem to end up being a weapon. It sucks when people are too bust picking apart every single little flaw in the examples I give to actualy say anything constructive on the point I have to present. --Wolf 23:15, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

div alignement

i've been wondering, is it possible to put divisions next to each other without aligning them with a table? i think i've done it somewhere already, but i fogot how. - Y0_ich_halt 10:28, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Float, fixed positions (set x and y positions).. Those are just suggestions. I don't know if there is an easier way. :) - anja 11:23, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Anja is right, the easiest way to position multiple divs in the wiki is floating. For further tips, you should explain what layout you would like to do (how many columns, which with fixed size etc.) poke | talk 14:37, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

does float work with more than two divs? like here: User:Y0 ich halt/Userboxes. what did you mean with fixed positions? relative and absolute? - Y0_ich_halt 19:13, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Can you do that with my page? I couldnt put the boxes in the order i wanted. I want the two large boxes to swap places but it doesnt want to work. I think thats like what Y0 is talking about— Seru Talk 19:15, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Yes, float works with more than one div as well; it is just that one float affects all following elements. poke | talk 19:35, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi

P0ke 20:46, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Please use the other nick of yours. poke | talk 20:50, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi M0nkey 20:51, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Is there anything, you want? poke | talk 21:00, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

F0od? Calor 21:07, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

thx

Thanks for the color ideas! They will be on my userpage. — Seru Talk 21:27, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

huh? I only see the Eloc-ish colors :P Or do you want to rotate the colors? poke | talk 21:31, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

They change every hour :D — Seru Talk 21:47, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

lol, cool :P poke | talk 21:48, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Your colors will be up at 22:00 or about 6 mins lol — Seru Talk 21:51, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Every day at the same time? :D poke | talk 21:56, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah it changes with the {{CURRENTHOUR}} template. so if hour=21 then yeah it will be up. Or should be at least o.O — Seru Talk 22:03, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

It seems to be a little sticky, but it works lol. Might need to change it to a switch command — Seru Talk 22:06, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

thx! — Seru Talk 16:00, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome :) poke | talk 16:06, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

You're a Just want to say thank you very much for helping me with background images and relative positioning. :) – josəph 09:44, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

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