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Another DPL Question

I would like to display only those articles that were last edited in April 2008. Can you please help with this task? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.83.31.1 (talk • contribs) at 05:09, 1 May 2008 (UTC).

You might want to take a look at the DPL manual. The only parameter to get the result you want would be allrevisionssince/allrevisionsbefore but note that you will get revisions as results and not the articles, so you might have articles listed more than once. poke | talk 14:05, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the info. I did look at that but it did suit my need. How about using {{currentmonth}} to display articles that were created during the current month. Any advise/suggestions are appreciated.

Hi, still struggling :c( ... please help. I found that "firstrevisionsince=dateandoptionaltime" will give me what I need ... except that I don't want the timestamp and username attached to the article, such as, 23:57, 2 May 2008 : Insurance Programs . . JSmith --- I just want the article name, such as, Insurance Programs

How can I turn the timestamp/editor (Username) off from my results? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.29.43.3 (talk • contribs) at 20:55, 12 May 2008 (UTC).

Use the format parameter with the %TITLE% variable to get the output formatted as you like. poke | talk 21:37, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you Poke, that worked ! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.29.43.2 (talk • contribs) at 15:59, 13 May 2008 (UTC).

You're welcome :) poke | talk 17:35, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

DPL list using ordermethod=pagetouched - How would I write a query to extact a list of articles which were modified on a given month? Where month would be: %DATE%=200805 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.29.43.2 (talk • contribs) at 16:04, May 14, 2008 (UTC).

No Archive

On the help pages the one labled "No Archive" can just be deleted right? --Shadowphoenix 17:51, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

yep poke | talk 17:55, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Clear Cache

Do you have any idea where the text that appears at the top of pages like user based monobook.js or monobook.css is located as while using FireFox I've never been able to use Shift + F5 to bypass your browser's cache and have always used Ctrl + F5. I had a look in the MediaWiki namespace but couldn't find anything related to it. --Kakarot 17:59, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

MediaWiki talk:Clearyourcache poke | talk 18:08, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

In the name of all that is good and pure >.<

I need your help, I am trying to work out a thingy that adds a link to your toolbox that links to a users block logs (for blocks they have recieved). I have been messing with the code for like 2 hours now and I can't get it to display our block log, bah...... here is the code, can u tell me what I am doing wrong?

// adds a 'block logs for this user' link to the toolbox bar
// if the page is a special page or in the GWW namespace, then no link is displayed;
// the link may display in the mainspace, but should not work
addOnloadHook(function () {
    if ( wgCanonicalNamespace == "Special" );
    if ( wgCanonicalNamespace == "Guild Wars Wiki" );
    if ( wgCanonicalNamespace == "ArenaNet" );
    if ( wgCanonicalNamespace == "Help" )
        return;  // don't display link for certain pages
    url = wgServer + "index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=&page=User%3A" + username (wgPageName);
    addPortletLink("p-tb", url, "Block logs for this user", "pt-logs");
});

--Shadowphoenix 21:18, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

o.O uhm, you might be interested in some JavaScript tutorials or syntax descriptions.. See [wikibook] for example.. poke | talk 21:30, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

I know a bit of JavaScript; and I got this to work but then the link suddenly went dead..... -.- that is why I asked ur help........ --Shadowphoenix 21:35, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Actually you seem to not know enough basics of JavaScript as the problem here is a syntactical problem, and I don't have the time atm. to explain the basics of JavaScript to you. Apart from that you seem to mix up some logical things in there, as if you don't have a real plan of what you are doing... poke | talk 21:42, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

nvm At helped me, I was mixing some stuff up :P (mostly the namspaces to be left out) I am tryign to get better throguh trial and error, but I know enough to make tabs and such; but that is about it :P. I dont think I could make a system like GWWT but I can at least make what I need (or want) to make. Thanks anyway! --Shadowphoenix 21:48, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

GWWT shortcut

Have you thought of creating a shortcut to the GWWT page, something like User:Poke/GWWT? Whenever I want to check something on the page I often type that shortcut in only to remember it doesn't exist. I would create it but considering it's your userspace it would be preferable if you did it. --Kakarot 21:01, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Here you are :) poke | talk 21:03, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks :) --Kakarot 21:04, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

So..

So, what's new with you Poke? — ク Eloc 貢 23:06, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

huh? poke | talk 23:15, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

I dunno, random discussion. Out of curiosity, what computer/programming languages do you know? — ク Eloc 貢 23:31, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

depends on the definition of "know" :P I know very many; I can read nearly the same number; I know the syntax of most; I can work with a lot and I'm good at some :D poke | talk 23:34, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Well which ones do you have a decent level of knowledge of? For me I know Pascal, HTML and C++, in that order. — ク Eloc 貢 04:46, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

To name my favorite ones(/the ones I work most with): ActionScript, php, Python, JavaScript. (html is not a programming language) poke | talk 15:39, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

If you don't know HTML, you need help. Or wiki. Calor 18:51, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

what's html? i've only ever used wiki...--Sum Mesmer Guy contribs 19:04, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

HTML, basically it's what websites are made with and also works on wikis. --Kakarot 19:06, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Ewwww Pascal! I hate that language. 2 years i spent trying to learn it and even now i shudder when i think about it. -- Salome 19:16, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

As I said Calor, it is not a programming language so I don't mention it. poke | talk 16:21, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

German?

Could you help me out with a user who's Guild seems to speak German? He keeps uploading images incorrectly. --People of Antioch 23:27, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

I think he already got it :) poke | talk 16:21, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

user image? or am i wrong?

why did you remove the deletition tag from Image:Lazycincodemayo4.jpg? Because it's shown in Cinco de Mayo? What naming policies have such pictures? —ZerphaThe Improver 15:45, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

None that I know of. - anja 15:46, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

It's not a user image, so it cannot be deleted because of that reason. Of course its name could be better (for example Image:Cinco de Mayo header.jpg or something like that). poke | talk 16:21, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok. Should i reupload [[Image:User Zerpha The Improver Inventory icons project icon.png|the inventory icons project icon] then as well? I asked for help on the image's talk, but didn't get an answer :P I should better have asked somewhere else. —ZerphaThe Improver 16:25, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

You can if you like, but you don't need to. poke | talk 16:56, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

ok. And there isn't a naming policy for guild images besides the cape? Shouldn't pictures like Image:Zaishenlol.jpg be moved to Guild namespace as well? —ZerphaThe Improver 17:45, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

That one definitely; It's just that the image above is mainly used for the article in the main namespace. poke | talk 17:49, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok, i'll reupload it as Image:Guild Death Is Energy Zaishenlol.jpg then. (having a "move pictures"-bot that reuploads these images automatically with according description would be awesome, lol) —ZerphaThe Improver 18:07, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Sitenotice

Since you just changed this, you might be interested in this discussion :) --Kakarot 01:26, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

I read it :P And because of that I set up the edit summary ;) But sorry that I stole your first MediaWiki-edit :P poke | talk 01:28, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

=(, it's ok I found me a new link =P --Kakarot 01:30, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

/runs -- Brains12 \ Talk 01:31, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry

Sorry about that Poke, I will make sure to bring it up somewhere and see if people tink is a good idea before doing that again; sorry for the trouble :) --Shadowphoenix 19:17, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Many people are still around even when they don't post anything or show that they are still active. Sometimes a message on the talk page helps to get that known ;) poke | talk 19:26, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Emails work well also. — ク Eloc 貢 00:44, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikichu assistance

Hey poke :D Zerpha and I are sorting through images and were wondering if we could get some wikichu help to recategorize a few things. Insignia images to Insignia icons to start with would be great :D -- Wynthyst 15:57, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Sure, I won't have time today, but I will do it tomorrow :) poke | talk 16:00, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Cool :D thanks -- Wynthyst 16:18, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Should we put something about it here? --Shadowphoenix 16:23, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

As there is no other active bot around, and it is already posted here, I don't think it is really needed. poke | talk 16:25, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm, ok :) --Shadowphoenix 16:26, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Done :] poke | talk 21:11, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

What I meant

Is on wikis that accept Fair use and public domain; I didnt mention ours didnt sorry. The Fair Use kit is the ArenaNet fansite kit, which the images qualify under fair use for the fansites. Sorry if I wasn't clear on that :) --Shadowphoenix 19:09, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

The Community Fansite Kit is not Fair use. The big difference is that Fair use allows people to use the image without direct permission of the copyright holder. But the Community Fansite Kit is a direct permission of the copyright holder, ArenaNet, to use the image for all fansite-like projects. poke | talk 19:35, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Ah, I was unaware of that.... I thought you needed direct permission for it to qualify under fair use, Thanks! I learned something new today :D --Shadowphoenix 19:37, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome :) poke | talk 19:38, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Bundle infobox

Could I have the codemaster take a look at User:Backsword/Sandbox/BIb and tell me what obvious mistake I am making to cause the mess? (See my example/test page) Backsword 20:22, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Should be fixed. The #if statements trim the text inside of them, so you can add as many linebreaks as you want, they will be all gone when it is parsed. As table cells and columns have to be on their own line, the closing if and the opening if cannot be on the same line. poke | talk 20:32, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Ach, if it only were that simple. I do know, so that was a desperation attempt, hoping it would semiread it. The thing is; look at how the box looks when neither if is called; it adds a blank line below the picture. (Eg. poder ked on the example page). Backsword 20:39, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok, now it works. I don't know exactly why, but adding the column break directly after the image solved it. I moved the new colum definitions to the end of the #if, so it should work now. poke | talk 20:56, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. No idea why that workd. Seems to accept linebreaks later in the if, just not in the begining. Backsword 21:02, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Category:Insignia images

Why NOGALLERY? --Shadowphoenix 21:07, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

three topics above. This category will be deleted. poke | talk 21:09, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh yeah /doh :P --Shadowphoenix 21:10, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Guild talk:Dark Icy Pandas

lmao I just used Google translate just to see how the that German comes out and a lot of it really made me laugh, an example would be the sentence regarding your talk page came out as "If you have any questions, you can calm me on my Poke ask." --Kakarot 21:39, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

o.O You should use the parsed text to translate, not the code :P poke | talk 21:41, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

If by that you mean copy the actual text from the page and not go to edit and then copy from there, the translation is even funnier. Never realized Google translate was that bad. --Kakarot 21:46, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Guild Wars Wiki:Adminship/Draft C

Hey, since the main thing that I wanted to be added to GWW:ADMIN was put in Draft B; should I put a note saying it was merged, rejected, or inactive? thanks --Shadowphoenix 16:54, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

As the draft itself, or the draft in complete, was rejected, I think that would fit best. poke | talk 17:04, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Deletes

Woo! You're fast. Thanks! Mohnzh say what? 18:18, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

hehe, that's why it's called speedy deletion :D poke | talk 18:19, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Deletion Error

Hey Poke, while deleting this image for U1 I got an error message: "Error deleting file: Could not rename file "public/c/c5/User_Mini_me_Spanktastic.gif" to "deleted/r/8/o/r8ojz8ac7jtekhm8igri7ksjpfe13yd.gif"." Although it seems to have been deleted I was wondering if you have any idea why this happened as it's the first time I've got that error. --Kakarot 02:32, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

That happens when the original file is broken or non-existent. In that case the server simply cannot rename the - missing - file, so it cannot be restored later either. poke | talk 14:19, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Odd, before it was deleted it seemed fine and no one else was on a deletion spree at the time but I guess it can happen for other reasons from time to time.
While I'm here I was just wondering what should be done about this image, based on the history of the image it seems that the image is still required but is being tagged because it is apparently not being used and I think that is what this is about. Should the deletion tag be removed or at least changed to non-speedy? --Kakarot 14:28, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Another possibility is of course, that the server just failed :P

For the image, they are replacing the XY icon.png to just XY.png (as screenshots are stored as .jpg). In this case there is the Image:Hexagram staff.png, so the icon one is redundant. poke | talk 14:34, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Could of sworn I had searched for that naming of the image and came up with nothing but maybe I didn't. Probably just another lack of concentration caused by not eating although it's no where near as bad as last time :/ --Kakarot 14:43, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

GW2 Suggestions

I just created the pages as per my discussions with Aspectacle here. Sorry if this causes complications, but it seemed like this was how the discussion was going to move forward. If I can help to fix any problems as a result, let me know. (Satanael 06:42, 20 May 2008 (UTC))

It's fine, that you are trying to organize that well, but maybe it would be better to at least put a note now on the pages so that nobody suddenly starts proposing new suggestions :/ That would prevent some problems we would get later when finally moving everything in that namespace. poke | talk 08:25, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Okay, will do. Just FYI, the suggestions we've put in there already are mainly just to test some of the things we're implementing to make sure they work right and see if we can improve them, we'll try to keep the additions to a minimum in any case. (Satanael 07:22, 22 May 2008 (UTC))

PvP versions/skill list

Now that we have Category:PvP versions of skills, can we get an option added to the {{skill table}} template to choose whether we want to show PvP versions in the list or not? (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 15:58, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Just use "category=PvP versions of skills" or "notcategory=PvP versions of skills" respectively, and it should work fine. Although, if you meant a simple switch like pvp=y, then ignore me :) - anja 16:01, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

That simple switch is indeed what I meant. I know one could use the category to exclude them (after all, that's basically what switch will end up doing, eventually) but it's a common enough thing we'd expect to toggle that it makes sense (at least to me) to put in a shortcut switch, if only to make typos less likely (or if, say, we ever decided to change that category name). (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 16:21, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

At least at the moment we filter all skills manually by the category name out. So I don't see a need to include now a parameter for split skills. poke | talk 17:12, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Your italicized text is the reason. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 19:32, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

DPL problem =o

When using a DPL request to find pages outside of the Guild, User, User talk, and Template namespaces, it generates this list for me:

{{#dpl:
| notnamespace=Guild
| notnamespace=User
| notnamespace=User_talk
| notnamespace=Template
| uses=Template:Guild¦Template:Guild cleanup¦Template:Guild infobox¦Template:guild-stub
| format=Results: <code>,%NAMESPACE%:%TITLE%, ,</code>
| noresultsheader=None :)
}}

I get 2 guilds in the guild namespace show up (Guild:Guild Of Russian Pathfinders, Guild:The Disciples Of Kashga), and I have no idea why... -- Tomato 11:52, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Hmm. The pages seem to be broken. I added the format line above, and when you look at the result, there will be an empty namespace and the title contains "Guild:", so they are both recognized as mainspace articles by DPL. I don't know how to fix this, but maybe a move ot another page and then moving back would help.. poke | talk 12:41, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok, that happens only with the code above, checking the namespace directly for them, gives correct results.. poke | talk 12:44, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Meh, it doesn't work. But at least I now know why this happened to "The Disciples Of Kashga"; the page was created when there was a bug with the namespaces (the guild namespace did not exist). poke | talk 17:40, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Added a request to have that fixed now.. poke | talk 17:51, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Yay now you can't continue killing RC =p --Kakarot 17:55, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Don't worry, I'll find something else :P poke | talk 17:56, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

I invoke...

... The Avatar of Poke! Once again, hello! --People of Antioch 14:32, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

lol about time :p --Kakarot 14:38, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

hai! :D btw. never disturb me while deleting :P poke | talk 14:46, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

*posts sign saying "Do Not Disturb, known to delete people indiscriminately."* :*) --People of Antioch 14:50, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

lol :D poke | talk 14:51, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

You should add that note to the skill PoA. --Kakarot 14:58, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Kakarot :( Don't tag the images while I'm deleting the inactive pages.. :P poke | talk 15:02, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

I didn't I tagged images I deleted the guild pages for. When I started going through them you hadn't started on inactives :p --Kakarot 15:05, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Ah! So it was your fault, that I got deletion conflicts! And I thought my mouse opened the tabs multiple times again... poke | talk 15:08, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

At least you don't get deletion conflicts when no one else is deleting at all and you only clicked delete once like I have. --Kakarot 15:11, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Heh you did it to me this time. --Kakarot 16:37, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

hrhr :D poke | talk 16:38, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Exhaustion!? Poke can never get exhausted from deleting...never. — ク Eloc 貢 22:18, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Anonymous talk pages

Hey Poke, I noticed that after you deleted all those anonymous user pages you tagged the talk pages for deletion, shouldn't we leave ones that have a warning such as User talk:80.193.98.46 User talk:86.83.15.245 and User talk:88.105.139.163? I see no problem with deleting User talk:86.7.133.141 or User talk:87.51.110.165 though. --Kakarot 13:10, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

I basically looked at the time. I don't think we need to keep old talk pages, especially as IPs are always changing.. poke | talk 13:11, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok, you missed a few User talk:76.26.189.65, User talk:82.3.237.149, User talk:85.103.56.190, User talk:86.62.250.4 and User talk:87.177.241.34. --Kakarot 13:18, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

I think I left those out because they were a bit too recent :P But feel free to tag them if you like ^^ poke | talk 13:25, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

I only did the last one but left the others for now. --Kakarot 13:36, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Question

Perhaps this edit is the information you are looking for? here Backsword 12:25, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Ah, not a very detailed comment, but thanks ^^ poke | talk 12:28, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

just realised

pokébot! I choose you, Wikichu! - Y0_ich_halt 18:50, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, that's on its user page already :P poke | talk 18:52, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

i meant the pun with poke+bot... - Y0_ich_halt 18:53, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Well that is the reason why the IRCabal decided to have it that name :P Before it was just Poke.bot poke | talk 18:59, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

ah, lol. - Y0_ich_halt 19:08, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

tango icons

do you make those yourself or do you download them from that website with example tango icons? - Y0_ich_halt 20:43, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

All of them are self-made :) poke | talk 20:50, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

By copying an already-made set :P -- Brains12 \ talk 21:09, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) with photoshop? how? o.o i'm mostly interested in how you actually removed the background as opposed to making it white like in my image. i could figure out creating a new layer with only the image and no background around it, then save the layer as a new file, but it seems to fill it white automatically. - Y0_ich_halt 21:18, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Actually, I used an icon from the tango icon library as the basic idea but created it completely on my own, Pling. Y0, you should read about vector images ;) poke | talk 22:06, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

i'm a noob when it comes to stuff like that. wth are vector images? i've heard the word vector be used in all kinds of way, can't guess what vector images might be. - Y0_ich_halt 12:42, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

While normal bitmap graphics are bascially only a set of pixels with the information where (position) and what (color), vector graphics are described using mathematical or geometrical objects like points and (bezier) curves. Multiple points connected by curves/lines can build up complex objects and those objects can be, for example, colored using a gradient.

The basic benefit from using vector images is that you can scale them up (or zoom into them) without losing any quality whereas bitmap images have to be recalculated and lose a lot of information. Because of this the main usage for vector images is probably for print media (papers, posters) where you need a high resolution to get a nice printing (PDF for example is a format that contains mainly vector data). In the last years vector images were more attractive for screen displays, especially as the file format SVG (Scalable Vector Graphic) is getting more popular and has now even native support in browsers (not all though :P).

That was a short intro into Vector graphics. :) poke | talk 13:38, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

ah, now i know what that means. i only have no idea what it has to do with creation of tango images or rendering, except that i get why certain image formats don't lose quality when you zoom in :P - Y0_ich_halt 13:46, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

This is why you don't ask Poke for an explanation, you get an exceedingly long and thorough explanation although that is sometimes a good thing :p --Kakarot 13:48, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

w:Vector images try that --Shadowphoenix 13:50, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Because of their description as mathematical structures, you can simply multiplicate everything *2 and have the double size (simplified), and the display is still fine. The Tango Desktop Project is just a group of people who made up a guideline on how to create (vector) icons for applications, to keep the look consistent. Because Tango icons look very nice in general, Biro adapted the idea for the profession icons, and I continued on that :P

Rendering is probably a wrong term when talking about vector images - ok you could use it, as the client which is displaying the vector file is rendering it, but I whatever :P

Nobody asked for a Wikipedia link, Shadowphoenix. I think if Y0 wanted a Wikipedia answer he would have been able to look there on his own :P

Kakarot: :P poke | talk 14:04, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

ok, wrong term then. does the tango group also have a tut on how to make icons at all? i read before that they introduced a norm for image design, but i had no idea how to make icons anyway so i forgot about it again. and yes, phoenix, i understood his explanation of vector images very well, but vector images weren't what i wanted to know about :P - Y0_ich_halt 14:09, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Hmm. The guideline only explains what you have to do, but gives no real hints about how you do that.. (Plus it is not the same in every program.) There is a video on the bottom of that page, if that helps, but I would recommend you to simply download Inkscape, and play a bit with it.. poke | talk 14:18, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

photoshop... grn. - Y0_ich_halt 14:26, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

waitwaitwait, that page is a wiki? o.o - Y0_ich_halt 14:29, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Photoshop? No, Inkscape :P And yes, a wiki, any problems? :P poke | talk 14:31, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

i meant i have only photoshop. - Y0_ich_halt 15:08, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

That's why I said, download Inkscape! It's free! :P poke | talk 15:08, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

why would it be better? - Y0_ich_halt 15:12, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Simple answer: It's a vector program. poke | talk 15:15, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

aaand... photoshop isn't? - Y0_ich_halt 15:27, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Photoshop is a bitmap program with very limited vector support, whereas Inkscape, as a pure vector program gives you full support. poke | talk 15:31, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

so not only .bmps are bitmaps? - Y0_ich_halt 15:34, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

as you would think from the format name, which is as you know "bitmap". - Y0_ich_halt 15:34, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

bmp was probably one of the first (the first?) bitmap format, yes :P But bitmap basically means that you have a map of bits representing the pixels. So bitmaps include file formats like jpg, png, gif etc. (Maybe I should better called them raster images.. but in the end it's the same :P) poke | talk 15:36, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

ok, i just thought jpgs and pngs use different ways because they aren't, well, bmps. - Y0_ich_halt 15:39, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

They do. In fact, "bitmap" isn't really the proper term - they're raster images. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 15:51, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Did you

make the name of your monk, Nao Ru, on purpose knowing that it means "to get better" in Japanese? I'm assuming it's more than just a coincidence, but I was just curious. o_O Kokuou 22:08, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

yes, you are right :) All of my character names have a meaning (except for my first, Patrick Brand which is just some playing with my first name and some fiery :P) poke | talk 22:13, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Just for now...

...Since the tangos haven't been implemented yet, I'm gonna mark them as user images (but not as delete ones, that would be a hassle). --People of Antioch 00:54, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

They are not user images, it is planned to put them into the templates themselves. -- Brains12 \ talk 00:58, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh, a consensus has been reached? So sorry! :-/ --People of Antioch 00:59, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

It's not really a controversial change, so a strict consensus isn't necessary right now. If you have an issue with it, you could ask for people to provide opinions, but otherwise, there's no real need to worry about it. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 01:00, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) No problem - not quite sure on the specifics, but they are definitely not user images and should not be tagged as such. Category:Special images, perhaps, but not user images - those tags are to categorise them as appropriate, not to have for the time-being before it's used. -- Brains12 \ talk 01:02, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) EC 510 death!I have no problems with it. :-) Sorry for the inconvenience. I still fear for the day you guys, for whatever reason, have to revert a tagging run made by me (even bigger than that, I mean around 500 or so!). --People of Antioch 01:04, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Hehe, it'd give us something to do :P -- Brains12 \ talk 01:06, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, find out how to get all those icons un-orphaned. --People of Antioch 01:07, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

They're used on Poke's sandbox, aren't they? Anyway, it doesn't really matter if they are "orphaned" - they were just uploaded today and plan to be used in the near future. -- Brains12 \ talk 01:08, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

No, I meant the GW icons, sorry. --People of Antioch 01:09, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

meh! Another "clean" upload destroyed :( And I was planning to categorize them today.. So just wait :P poke | talk 09:47, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Deletion Log in RC toggle?

I'm assuming (since the option doesn't already appear) that there's not an option to toggle showing Deletion Log entries in Recent Changes. Would it be possible to create a script that adds an option to just quickly show/hide page deletes? It doesn't necessarily need to persist state across multiple views, although an option to set the default (hidden or shown) would be nice. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 17:58, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Selecting the hide patrolled edits hides deletions too. -- Brains12 \ talk 18:01, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, but it also hides every edit by a sysop, which is not my desired functionality. ;) (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 18:05, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Copy the following code into your browser's location bar and press enter (you can also save it as a bookmark, and click it when you need it):

javascript:var li, lis = document.evaluate( '//div[@id="bodyContent"]//li[ contains(a[1]/@title,"Special:Log/") ]', document, null, XPathResult.UNORDERED_NODE_ITERATOR_TYPE, null );var rm = new Array(); while((li=lis.iterateNext())){rm.push(li)}; while((li=rm.pop())){li.parentNode.removeChild(li);};void(0);

(Firefox only) poke | talk 18:07, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. :) (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 18:09, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

for(x in document.write){document.write(x);} (firefox only) - Y0_ich_halt 18:12, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

eh? poke | talk 18:15, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

No thanks, Y0. :) Edit: explanation for poke - http://www.modernlifeisrubbish.co.uk/article/how-to-crash-internet-explorer (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 18:15, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

while(true){alert(':P')} - How to crash Firefox all.. :P poke | talk 18:20, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) easier: http://www.crashie.com - Y0_ich_halt 18:21, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Kakarot's Question of the Day

Hey Poke, I was wondering if there was a way to modify my image naming template so that when it was placed on peoples talk pages it didn't include the code {{ #switch: user| user=User | guild=Guild}} as can be seen on this talk page but instead be replaced by the correct option. I figure it could be done using something similar to the code: [[<includeonly>{{subst:</includeonly>TALKPAGENAME<includeonly>}}</includeonly>|Discussion]] that I suggested on the ArenaNet suggestion pages but have no idea what to change. --Kakarot 04:06, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

I added a subst to it, and it should work like this. poke | talk 10:38, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Yep just tested and it worked, thanks :) --Kakarot 13:45, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Impossible category

Just wondering but why did you remove the deletion tag from Category:Users hours per day 27 since there are only 24 hours in a day? If it's because it has a person in it should we also create Category:Users hours per day 164 as well since there is someone that plays that as well? --Kakarot 15:29, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Meh, I removed the deletion tag because it was pending for about a week and I didn't want to delete it, as it doesn't matter - to me - how impossible the play style of some persons is :P And as nobody else deleted it, I removed it :) poke | talk 15:39, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Ok so you have no problem if I delete it? I would of before now but in situations where I'm the tagger I usually let someone else do it. --Kakarot 15:49, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Feel free to do it :P poke | talk 15:51, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

DPL

Hi, is there any way to add a Text before and after each Result Line? ie. Some Text Returned Article Some more Text
I would also like to get specific Parts from the Article Page that was found to be listed after the line... How can I archive this? For example the Reason given in the Deletion Template or Image Update Template etc.
PS: The Add a new Section Link on the Top Right Navigation leads to Wichiku's Talk Page - dont think thats intended ;) --SilentStorm 16:11, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I noticed that new section on other wikis :P

The format parameter allows to display something before the whole data, before each data, after each data, and after the whole data (each separated by , ); so you can do exactly what you want by setting format = ,Some Text,Some more Text,. For using templates, that are used on the page, or for getting specific sections, please see the DPL Manual, especially the include parameter. poke | talk 05:40, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Note that using the format parameter will autoset mode, to user, so you will not get the input desired. You can set mode, or just use the alias listseperators to get the desired effect. Tho' with leading text, you may find it preferable to include full formating. Backsword 13:39, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

yeah kinda works now thanks :) Just wondering though is it possible to have different Formatting if a specific Template is used? Would be kinda cool but if it aint possible I guess it wont hurt that much. --SilentStorm 00:18, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

You can create a template which is used instead of the original template but with the same parameters. See Template:Skill infobox.dpl and my DPL sandbox for an example. poke | talk 00:23, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Sandbox

Why was my personal Sandbox page deleted? I did not mark it for deletion at user request like it says. Nbajammer 16:15, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

For the record, the deletion log says this - 10:36, May 25, 2008 Poke (Talk | contribs) deleted "User:Nbajammer/Sandbox" ‎ (Speedy Deletion U1: User request.). I re-use this page to test my own coding, so I would never mark it user request. Can you please restore the page? Nbajammer 16:17, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Restored - the navbar that you tagged for deletion also included your main Sandbox in the category. -- Brains12 \ talk 16:19, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Very strange. I do not recall deleting the Sandbox page, only the navbar page itself. Is that because I tested it as a template? Nbajammer 16:23, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

putting a delete on a page will also put the delete on all pages where you include it, if you didn't put it inside nowiki-tags. - Y0_ich_halt 16:26, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Well that pretty much explains it, then. Thanks Brains! Nbajammer 16:27, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

(Edit conflict x2) Yeah - your navbar page had the deletion tag on, so it was added to the deletion category (and therefore GWW:DEL). Because the navbar page was included into your main sandbox as a template, the sandbox page was also added to GWW:DEL. To avoid this in future, you should put <noinclude> </noinclude> tags around {{delete}}. -- Brains12 \ talk 16:27, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

On the other hand, certain sysops should also check the pages they're deleting before actually deleting them. ;) (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 16:28, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

That too :P -- Brains12 \ talk 16:29, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Same goes with certain sysops should check the what links here link when deleting guild pages otherwise things like this or this happen just like I said it would :P --Kakarot 18:03, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

The same applies for blocking, right Brains? Calor 18:21, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Shuddup. -- Brains12 \ talk 19:11, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

<singsong> Brains is getting grouch-y! Brains is getting grouch-y! </singsong> Ahem *cough* Yes, Brains be careful when blocking urself--Sum Mesmer Guy contribs 19:21, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh, sorry for that; if that ever happens again, feel free to just ask for undeletion on the noticeboard.

Aiiane, I do check the page before deletion; for U1, I look at the history, if the last edits are made by that user, and that was the case.

Kakarot, I already said that I don't check the What links here for inactive guild pages, because that won't change their status of being inactive. And what was with those two pages? poke | talk 05:40, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Those two links were to redirects that I deleted after you deleted the actual guild page, see my last comment on the templates talk page. Also my name isn't Kakaron :P --Kakarot 15:26, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

oops :P poke | talk 17:58, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Something needs your attention

Ahem, I already went through some of them but could Wikichu do the rest. --Kakarot 17:59, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

If you're preoccupied, Poke, it can be done by hand in about five minutes by replacing all the Gaile logs pages with #REDIRECT [[ArenaNet:Developer Updates/{{subst:SUBPAGENAME}}]]. I think. Calor 18:35, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Maybe but doing it manually gets quite tedious after a short while although I don't think I could of used that when I did the Izzy ones. --Kakarot 18:44, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

*Looks at new tedious easy task* *gets to work* - anja 18:48, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Anjachu already started? :P I will look at the rest later :) poke | talk 05:40, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

lol Anjachu. --Kakarot 15:26, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Grats!

Finally off school, huh? ;) - anja 15:06, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Du hast deinen Abitur gemacht? Prima! -- Brains12 \ talk 15:10, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

you know what? that was perfect german, but it sounds odd, like what a voice robot would say :P grats, poke! - Y0_ich_halt 15:20, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Congrats Poke :) --Kakarot 15:23, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Congratz :D --Shadowphoenix 15:27, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Conga Rats. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 15:29, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Aww they are so cute =D --Shadowphoenix 15:31, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, all! :) poke | talk 17:58, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the word fix, I can never get these genders right... -- Brains12 \ talk 18:06, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Gratz Poke --SilentStorm 19:06, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Gratz poke! -- Salome 18:40, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you :) poke | talk 13:35, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

(yeah i'm a "Slowpoke" kinda) Gratz! —ZerphaThe Improver 22:08, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

hehe, thanks :) poke |