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This is copied from here Drogo Boffin 17:47, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- I see that the place you took the art from says it's Creative Commons licensed, noncommercial and attributed, so just credit the source in the file description (which it doesn't seem you did) and it shouldn't be a problem. --Kyoshi (Talk) 18:01, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- He didnt give the creator credit nor is he showing where he was given permission. Also we generally only allow images released under the GDFL. Drogo Boffin 18:03, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- I realize that he didn't give credit, but releasing a work under creative commons constitutes permission when credit is given. And how generally, exactly, do you only allow GDFL images? That sounds pretty ambiguous. --Kyoshi (Talk) 18:24, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- Well I shouldnt have said generally. GWW:IMAGE has the policy. And Anet's rules state that they only want GFDL images. Although I dont know where it is stated. Drogo Boffin 18:32, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- I don't see anything on GWW:IMAGE that says only GDFL is allowed, unless the "terms of use of this site" refers to that. --Kyoshi (Talk) 18:35, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- Ok I found it GWW:COPY. Drogo Boffin 18:41, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- "content from the following resources cannot automatically be assumed okay to copy" I'm still not seeing any concrete "thou shalt not" anywhere. If the policy intends to state that it is in no way allowed for a user to take a Creative Commons image and post it here, then it's doing it wrong. I intend to ask about this on the policy's talk page, however, because I won't claim to be intimately familiar with the wiki policies and their interpretations. --Kyoshi (Talk) 00:33, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
- "Content from other, non-GFDL sources (regardless of whether fair use applies)." How is that not concrete? If you need clarification just ask Wyn or Poke or Pling. Drogo Boffin 00:41, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
- If you read my quote more closely, "...cannot automatically be assumed okay to copy..." is not the same as "...cannot be copied..." and anything under that statement is only as concrete as the statement itself, which is honestly not very concrete. I've posted the question on the policy's talk page. I'm not trying to be unreasonable, I just want the facts about questionably applicable and rather vague policies before (what seems to me) a perfectly legally posted image gets nuked. --Kyoshi (Talk) 00:57, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
- For Lacky to legally contribute this image, he must license it under the GFDL. With other GFDL-licensed images, this does not require anything special besides attribution of the source. However this image is CC by-nc-sa. That "non-commercial" clause is incompatible with the GFDL -- that is, this contribution cannot be licensed under the GFDL because the GFDL does not prevent commercial use. Since this contribution cannot be GFDL-licensed, it cannot be on the wiki. —Tanaric 10:21, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
- If you read my quote more closely, "...cannot automatically be assumed okay to copy..." is not the same as "...cannot be copied..." and anything under that statement is only as concrete as the statement itself, which is honestly not very concrete. I've posted the question on the policy's talk page. I'm not trying to be unreasonable, I just want the facts about questionably applicable and rather vague policies before (what seems to me) a perfectly legally posted image gets nuked. --Kyoshi (Talk) 00:57, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
- "Content from other, non-GFDL sources (regardless of whether fair use applies)." How is that not concrete? If you need clarification just ask Wyn or Poke or Pling. Drogo Boffin 00:41, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
- "content from the following resources cannot automatically be assumed okay to copy" I'm still not seeing any concrete "thou shalt not" anywhere. If the policy intends to state that it is in no way allowed for a user to take a Creative Commons image and post it here, then it's doing it wrong. I intend to ask about this on the policy's talk page, however, because I won't claim to be intimately familiar with the wiki policies and their interpretations. --Kyoshi (Talk) 00:33, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
- Ok I found it GWW:COPY. Drogo Boffin 18:41, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- I don't see anything on GWW:IMAGE that says only GDFL is allowed, unless the "terms of use of this site" refers to that. --Kyoshi (Talk) 18:35, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- Well I shouldnt have said generally. GWW:IMAGE has the policy. And Anet's rules state that they only want GFDL images. Although I dont know where it is stated. Drogo Boffin 18:32, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- I realize that he didn't give credit, but releasing a work under creative commons constitutes permission when credit is given. And how generally, exactly, do you only allow GDFL images? That sounds pretty ambiguous. --Kyoshi (Talk) 18:24, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- He didnt give the creator credit nor is he showing where he was given permission. Also we generally only allow images released under the GDFL. Drogo Boffin 18:03, 31 December 2009 (UTC)