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John Taylor would be proud.--*Yasmin Parvaneh* User yasmin parvaneh sig.png 06:25, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Why's that? →[ »Halogod User Halogod35 Sig.png (talk ]← 06:37, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) Needs more Gibson.
Also, Halo, if you had to choose one of theses basses, which would it be?
  • Fender Jazz Bass ($600-$800)
  • Schecter Stiletto Studio 6 ($750)
  • Schecter Stileto Elite 4 ($750)
  • Hofner Violin Bass ($350, or $2000)
  • Rickenbacker 4000 series (any) ($3500-$4000)
--Riddle 06:43, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Schecter Stiletto Studio 6. →[ »Halogod User Halogod35 Sig.png (talk ]← 06:52, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, I had to. -Auron 08:13, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
You best be practicing these songs = [1] + [2] + [3] + [4]. --Riddle 16:48, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
I should add that bass players are hotter than guitar players. Proof? John Taylor of Duran Duran, Robert DeLeo of Stone Temple Pilots, Flea (yeah I got shit for saying I'd pick Flea over Dave Navarro but Flea has more personality) Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Sting, The Imfamous Lemmy of Motorhead (he's not hit IMO but he is awesome, and some ladies do love Lemmy) and of course, the pimp of all pimps--Gene Simmons.--*Yasmin Parvaneh* User yasmin parvaneh sig.png 19:15, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Well you're a girl, so you find the males hot. And since I'm a dude, unlike chaos, I can't say they're hot lol. But the hottest (female) bassist I've ever seen so far is probably that girl from the sick puppies. She looks a lot like my ex. →[ »Halogod User Halogod35 Sig.png (talk ]← 19:19, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
I'm saying that in regard to your choice to play bass over guitar--as in I am justifying your choice silly, I'm not saying you should be slobbering over John Taylor's cheekbones, I'm saying women slobber more over these men than the guitar players in their bands (except maybe Dave Navarro vs Flea) as in potentially you someday!--*Yasmin Parvaneh* User yasmin parvaneh sig.png 20:20, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
It's a bit late for that, I've already got 5 guitars lol.
Riddle <-- plays the bass. I picked up guitar after I learnt the bass good. --Riddle 20:48, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
You in a band Riddle? →[ »Halogod User Halogod35 Sig.png (talk ]← 18:10, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
One Ibanez as a bass for me, thank you! ^^
Hey, Halo, how's you band? Any songs composed yet? - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 18:21, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
I FUCKING love the Ibanez 5 string bass. It's amazing, I tried it at the store once and I told my bassist to get it. But of course he's not allowed to get any basses over $200. :/ lol.
However, as far as the band goes, it's going extremely well. As of right now, I'm waiting for my other members to get out of school and stuff. So, I'm just composing music for the Juggernaut X5 game for right now and as far as that goes, my brother is in love with the songs lol. One of them is temporary called 'Enter WTF-man' lol, but there is one weakness I have: making long songs. →[ »Halogod User Halogod35 Sig.png (talk ]← 19:00, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Having long songs can be awesome. Just don't make them too repetitive. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 19:06, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
That's my easiest conflict: Repeatability vs Time. Have any idea where I can just easily upload my songs for you to check out if you want? Maybe I could do that on a wikia? →[ »Halogod User Halogod35 Sig.png (talk ]← 19:13, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Yes, I am in a band. Bassist. We play more classic stuff (think Beatles and Rolling Stones). I'm using a lower-end Ibanez four string. I want to upgrade soon, but first I need a decent amp (cause plugging into the PA is lol). --Riddle 19:28, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
I'd love to hear some songs you've made, Halo!
Though i'm not familiar with any website specialized to upload audio files. Though you could make it a video and post it to YouTube. Or you could email them if you don't want to make them public. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 19:40, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
I just sent a request to wikia to give me the ability to upload mp3 or wav :P →[ »Halogod User Halogod35 Sig.png (talk ]← 19:53, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

I will leave you with some of JT's random wisdom about the bass just because I love reading/listening to him talk about it.
"From www.duranduran.com:

"The BASSics" December 20th, 2009

Hi John. My question is, have you ever produced, or considered producing, a beginner bass tutorial/training video? Thanks, Todd

“Hi Todd..Not really. I suppose I could have done that when I put out the Peavey signature bass a few years ago, it was discussed. There’s a super-cute interview with me around from ‘82 talking about my playing and my parts on the first album. Try you-tube. Teaching someone else to play an instrument is a whole other deal than just being a player, and frankly, I still have so much to learn, I still think of myself as a student. I’m happy and surprised, actually, to tell you I’m enjoying the bass guitar a whole lot these days, just enjoying playing it. And that’s the best way to learn..Best, JT”

"KBP-4 Bass" November 12th, 2009

Hi John, I have a bass-question for you. On Alleva Coppolo web site there´s a picture of you playing a beatiful KBP-4 bass and you are also mentioned as one of featured artists. Unfortunatelly, I have never seen you live on stage with that bassguitar. Why? Or are you using it at least in studio? Are there any songs (by Duran or other JT projects etc.) recorded with that bass? … Thanks for answer …Petra

“It’s my home bass.. it rarely leaves the house. I love it.. it’s very old school!-JT”

"Which Comes First?" October 20th, 2009

Dearest John, I hope this finds you doing well. I was curious, would you say it’s easier playing bass after learning guitar, or vice versa? Does it vary from person to person? And, does being able to sing (mainly dealing with pitches, not necessarily “singing well”) help at all? Just wanting to know where to start. xo Amanda

“Well Amanda..I always think that a good guitar player makes a decent bass player, but not necessarily the reverse, so a basic knowledge of guitar gives you a better understanding of music than does bass. Bass is more about rhythm anyway, and pulse, it’s more instinctive whereas guitar is more intellectual…(am I losing you?)… everyone can sing enough to get by, I believe, if they want to, and besides, in popular music, contemporary music, a strong attitude will take you a long way." -JT

"Vintage Aria" September 20th, 2009

An unusual but hopefully interesting question for John. As the Bass Messer who made me go to my local music store and spend all £100 of my Chistmas Money on a Bass Guitar 22 years ago (Im Now 34). Ive had an original Aria SB1000 (1983) for a few years now . the pick up has died and Im getting a new one made … Ive decided Im gonna get a custom paint job (DD stylie) What Pic, album cover , logo, anything would you decide to have to celebrate yours and DD’s history – Ive got a FEW ideas (well im going crazy to be honest LOL) but the nat finish is going the distance and its gonna be a one off SB that Only I have . Me Me Me …LOL. Thank you for your time and enornous inspiration over the years. Pauly C

“Hi Pauly..If it were up to me, and you have the real deal, vintage Aria.. I wouldn’t touch it. Don’t mess with it friend, that custom stuff will age it faster than light. It’s one thing for yours truly, who can afford to have a bass built just for one tour concept, but if that’s your main instrument, LEAVE IT ALONE!!!My advice, take it or leave it!-JT”

"Changing Strings November" 10th, 2008

Hi John, Question for you: I have recently started to play Bass and play every day for at least an hour. I have no idea when strings need changing! Is it only when they break or is there a noticeable change in sound. If so any recommendations on manufacturer? Kind Regards, Chris (Suffolk, England)

“Hello Chris. There are two schools of thought here, and you will probably want to find a middle way. Two of the greatest bass players as far as I am concerned, Motown man James Jamerson and the equally legendary Chic bassist Bernard Edwards, NEVER changed their strings. They both liked the build up of sweat and residue, and they liked the dullness that creeps in after hours of being played without a change. At the opposite end to that spectrum, the John Entwistle hard rock style requires a bright, hard, bouncy sound, with a lot of sustain, that usually means you have your roadie change all four strings in between each gig. I can go for weeks without changing my E string in particular, I usually leave the decision of when to change strings to my sonic valet Beetmoll Troy- who makes his decisions usually based on fear- that a string may be about to break. In the studio I have worked with producers who like my strings changed fresh, daily, and others who like the dullness only old and tired strings have. JT”

Frettless October 19th, 2008

This question is for John if you could pass it along. Hey John, I read the article in Bass Player magazine that you were on the cover of. The article was explaining the difference between a fretted and frettless bass but I don’t quite understand what it was telling us. Is it the difference in sound? The bass guitar is my favorite instrument to listened to so I was hoping you could put it to terms for me. Thanks for all the great music you guys bring out to us fans. Oh by the way you look great on the magazine. Thanks, Teresa

“All orchestra instruments are unfretted. The violin, viola, cello and double bass. I guess the guitar was the first instrument to have frets, but I’m not certain. Then at some point in the nineteen-fifties, Leo Fender (again I’m guessing) decided to produce an electric bass guitar that you could hold- and put frets on it. Up until that point, any music you might have heard with bass on it, big band jazz, blues, symphonies etc., the bass you hear would have been an upright double bass, without frets.

Basically, having frets makes the instrument a whole lot easier to play. The frets ‘pinpoint’ the note for you. A player has to be a lot more precise with his fingering on an unfretted instrument. As for sound differences, an unfretted bass has a more elastic sound, the notes tend to wind into one another. The consensus is that Jaco Pastorious is the greatest of the fretless bass players (check out his work with Weather Report or on Joni Mitchell’s ‘Hejira’). I was a fan of Mick Karn’s work with Japan (esp. ‘Quiet Life’,and ‘Gentleman Take Polaroids’) and he inspired me to play fretless now and again. You can hear me playing fretless bass on “Lonely In Your Nightmare” from RIO and “The Seventh Stranger” off SEVEN AND THE RAGGED TIGER.

I played fretless live on the reunion tour when we played “Tiger Tiger,” but honestly, it’s not my favourite way of playing. Other than achieving a particular stylistic effect, I would rather play fretted. JT” " Enjoy! --*Yasmin Parvaneh* User yasmin parvaneh sig.png 17:41, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

He is wise in his ways. Very nice person that he is. →[ »Halogod User Halogod35 Sig.png (talk ]← 19:44, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
He is very nice in person. When I went to the MnG in 2008 he came up to me, shook my hand and thanked me for coming to the show before I barely stepped off the elevator to the stage side area where we were. Usually at those things, you engage the band first, or you walk down a line to each person with a PR rep or a stage manager. It was totally weird (but an awesome kind of weird) to have the band introduce themselves to me. He even said "I'm John," I laughed and said "Oh I know who you are!" No ego with DD, it was more like hanging out at one of my friend's bands shows where there is no ego, no assholes (well, not famous, inhuman assholes) and everyone is friends with the band or its all a very chill atmosphere.--*Yasmin Parvaneh* User yasmin parvaneh sig.png 20:40, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
How about these brothers? The kid on bass, as well as his brothers, has come a long way. Sardaukar User Sardaukar sig.png 15:00, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

(Reset indent) I'm going to (finally) get my own bass. It's gonna be Epiphone Thunderbird Pro-IV TB ^^ - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 01:57, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Bass is a pretty cool guy but Zero is clearly a superior robot. Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә User Aliceandsven 3.png ѕνәи Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 02:06, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Oo very nice, I'm jealous. However, good luck trying to reach the 18-20 frets :P. Also, that thing looks a lot like what seether uses. →[ »Halogod User Halogod35 Sig.png (talk ]← 00:24, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Vintage Sunburst is cool looking aswell.
I thought of getting it from Thomann. I save 350€ if i buy it there! Too bad their currently out of stock and i've just being informed the restock will arrive somewhere in November :'(
Do you have any experience about Thomann? Meaning anyone who happens to wander to this page :P - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 15:59, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Lol, sad part is, I've never really heard of Thomann. And as for people who wander on my page, nobody does anymore. I'm pretty much an outcast now :D: →[ »Halogod User Halogod35 Sig.png (talk ]← 19:54, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
I use Musician's Friend. Except my current bass I bought from a friend. --Riddle 20:29, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
You guys should post your equipment on the other forum. →[ »Halogod User Halogod35 Sig.png (talk ]← 08:07, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

"Some Beginner Tips August 5th, 2010

Hi Katy! This question is for John. I’m 20 years old, and I recently took up playing bass myself. I’ve only been playing for about a month, but I’m completely in love with it. (Many thanks to you for inspiring me to pick one up) But there’s a few things I have trouble with, as is to be expected. So my question for you is, when you first started playing bass, what did you have trouble with, if anything? Did you ever get frustrated with it? Were there certain things you thought “I’m never going to get this!!” about? Or did it all come pretty naturally to you? Thank you, Meghan

“Hello Meghan, One thing I always recommend to anyone who wants to play bass – Buy yourself a simple rhythm box, something you can just press ‘play’ at different tempos and jam along with. Also try james Brown records. Ideally someone in the house (child, friend, partner) plays drums. It’s a dull instrument to play solo for too long, and you’ll soon lose heart without a rhythm partner. Also: if you are going to jam for a while using your fingers, keep vaseline close. I don’t pick up my bass these days without a tub of it nearby. I’m sick of blisters. One more thing: Practice tuning and keep your instrument in tune. Otherwise you’ll never sound much good and won’t understand why.-JT”"--*Yasmin Parvaneh* User yasmin parvaneh sig.png 04:29, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Just ordered the bass. The beast should arrive in a week ^^ - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 18:26, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
That's freaken awesome. You know what's funny, I saw that exact same bass arrive in my local guitar store. It's pretty sweet sounding lol. →[ »Halogod User Halogod35 Sig.png (talk ]← 02:08, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
It's here! I'll post a pic soon. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 21:07, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
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--Neil2250 User Neil2250 sig icon6.png 21:08, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Here it is! A bit darker than expected, but still transparent black ^^ - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 09:11, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Very sweet. I'm surprised nobody think's that's copy vio lol. You're probably going to spend the next couple of days playing that aren't you? XD→[ »Halogod User Halogod35 Sig.png (talk ]← 15:26, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
Yeah! Since i've never before had my own instrument, but still played for 2 years now, i've not really made as much progress as someone who's had his own. Once a week isn't enough :P
But now i can start practicing for real!
What comes to copyright violation, ofcourse i don't own the rights for Epiphone, but the image is my own work. - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 15:51, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
Funny, I got my image removed once because it had a shamwow in it. →[ »Halogod User Halogod35 Sig.png (talk ]← 02:11, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

You said you've tried the bass. How much did it cost at your local store? - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 15:06, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Like, $450 or so, used. →[ »Halogod User Halogod35 Sig.png (talk ]← 23:59, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
Mine was 399€ as a new, with an 80€ gigbag :) - J.P.User J.P. sigicon.pngTalk 17:59, 26 November 2010 (UTC)