User:Orgeron/paragon
Paragon[edit]
Here is the place that I'm going to have a discution about paras (the talk page, not here) and i will ask some questions and stuff, first off: what do you think of the proff para, rate 1-5 and comment :)
Nrg Per Sec[edit]
If I'm compleatly lost here plz say so (be nice tough)
paragon = 30 nrg + 2 neg regen = 70 nrg in 60 secs right?
30 base nrg = 30 nrg :P
2 pips of nrg regen = 2 rng every 3 secs = 0.666666666666666666666666667 (and so on) nrg per sec (0.3333->>> nrg per pip/min)
60 min x 0.666667 = 40 nrg right?
30 base + 40 given = 70 nrg in 60 sec.
- what can a paragon spend per sec?
you take your 70 nrg that you got saved there and devides it in the 60 secs you have spent fighting
70/60 = 1,166666667
answer: you can as a para spend 1.166667 nrg per second without nrg management (leadership + shouts/chants)
just whant to say that, it's a good way to see if your made upp build can take the presure. ;)
EDIT: with some help i relised that this calculation in not what a para can spend per sec. it shows that you will have 0 nrg after 60 and after that, you'll have to survive on the 0,66666667 nrg per sec, sry for messing things up.
TEST: with a build that spends about 1.075 nrg per sec, as i thought, 60 - 65 sec and my nrg where lost (this was without nrg managment). Next I tested with "gfte" and only me that whould be afected. This test showed that if you get 1 nrg every 5-6 sec your nrg will survive 40 secs longer (100 secs instead). and for you who don't see why I post this, It's just for fun.
Plz, if you have comments or just some thing to say, wright in a normal way so I and ppl not get pissed. "0mFG YO FkINg nuwb" is not a good way to make a conversation and is not something that I whant on this/any of my (talk) pages. tough my english is pretty bad, I will try to tell you what I mean, and if you can't understand what I'm talking about, say so in a normal tone instead of "nuwb":ing me. Ty :)
Hex remove[edit]
Elite for para: Expel Hexes or Empathic Removal? why?
norn paras[edit]
and more probably, if i have forgoten someone plz tell me :P
if norn paras aint in gw2 i'm going to be mad, i mean... how can the proff die if there is a couple of (really high up) norns in gw:en. I whant norn paras! :P
Spear Attacks[edit]
this is (like all the others) a reminder to myself when i make builds for paras
note: all dmg is based on 10 in spear, because not evey build got 12+, but it's always good to have atleas 10 spear
nrg attacks:
Spear of Lightning 5
6 
16 dmg + 25% peni. 0,8333 nrg/sec. Great skill that deal much dmg and is one of the best to take whan you whant to do dmg. note: don't use if you have order derv or is going to do an area with lots of rangers.
Vicious Attack 5 8 15 dmg. 0,625 nrg/sec. allmost as great as SoL above, but deal less dmg. if used with "go for the eyes" it will allmost allways (90% of the time when i use them both :P) and then this will deal more dmg. one of my top 3 favorit spear skills.
Swift Javelin 5 10 15 dmg. 0.5 nrg/sec cheep skill that works really well with order derv and bonders. can be used to get through block and often don't miss, is not very good in para teams without order derv.
Spear of Fury 5 8 mini: 31 dmg. 0,625 n/s top 3 spear skills, this or SoL? this by far, this deal best dmg for a spear skill and it have the same nrg/recharge as SoL, but is by far the best. really great in pve para team/adrenalin focused builds and with IAS the 1 sec cast is nothing.
Chest Thumper just.. not worth the spot for DW, take victios and "gfte", much more worth. no more to explane...
Maiming Spear works well with barbed spear but if you really whant cripple, take and other skill, becaouse this and barbed just to cripple (and bleed) is not worth the spots. no extra dmg and is not really worth the cripple, if there is't a special boss that need to be crippled fast.
Disrupting Throw the only interupt on paragon so if you whant to interupt some special skill, take this, works well with some fast condition on that foe. MS is an exampel of skill that need to be interuped.
Slayer's Spear 10 4 15 dmg 18 . 2,5 n/s. and that made me blind... if you is a primary para, this will kill your nrg fast... this is not spammable which makes it useless imo. if you whant DW, victios is the skill.
Harrier's Toss 10 10 15 dmg + 22 if foes's moving = 27 if lucky. 1 n/s. same, not worth the nrg (in pve), any of the 4 first is better... and pvp, no, not a chans.
adrenalin attack:
Barbed Spear 2 
keep this on foe all the time and you will deal 6 dmg in sec. this is a great with spear of fury and disrupting spear. remember that you will probobly deal more dmg with an other attack, so don't take it if you really don't need it.
Wearying Spear 3 30 dmg. the bad thing with this is... that if you use this, and it deal kind of good dmg, you'll get weakness and for the rst of the time you'll deal 66% less dmg :P. i haven't used it, but what i see, you'll have to get this of fast if you whant to deal dmg. the best thing is if you have a monk or someone that can tak it of you all the time, but in my point of view, you and your party will be greater if you taek a non conditional attack.
Mighty Throw 2 3 
30 dmg. this is bad, even with AIS you'll do more dmg with an other attack. the 30 dmg is not going to make up for the 3 sec cast, so... don't take it, there is a hell of alot better skills.
Unblockable Throw 7 3 30 dmg. same as above but even worse... 7 adrenalin AND 3 sec cast... not worth the adrenalin and the 3 cast for an unblockible attack.
Wild Throw 7 15 dmg. works well with anthem of fury becaouse most of the stances is block stances right? and if a foe block, you can't get adrenalin, but if you have an nrg attack and fury, you'll get most of the nrg needed. anyways... this is just good if there is a stance that really need to go (shiros stance for ex.), if you're going for dmg, there is better attack skills.
Spear of Redemption 3 15 dmg.
Blazing Spear 6 18 dmg, 2 sec burn (28 dmg)one of my favorit adrenalin attacks, good dmg, burning synergise well with "They're on Fire!" (well kind of, if it was longer burning tme :P). it is only one downside, one of the highest non elite attacks (6 adrenalin), but thats not a pob imo, in a para team there will be atleast one anthem of fury para, and if you whant to spam this more, use spear of fuy too.
Merciless Spear 6 15 sec of deep wound if target is bellow 50% hp. em... 6 adrenaline, no extra dmg, conditional dw, do i have to say more? vicious + "gfte" = dmg, nrg, dw. don't like this, not worth a spot on your build.
Holy Spear 4 15 dmg, 65 if you hit a minion (130 if you hit minnions around the target), ever seen an minnion explotion? it's hot, this si a mm's worst dream (wel... one of them) i like this skills in ab/fa/jq, but it is also good in general pve, low adrenaline ost :P
Cruel Spear 7 21 dmg. ok... this skill is used by alot of ppl... it deals good dmg and in a para team, it will be recharged fast. BUT it's an elite, and i don't like that... don't take it because it's a dw skill, as i said before, vicios is better. take this only because it's dmg, the conditional dw is lame imo.
Stunning Strike 10 22 dmg and daze. as long as this is 10 adrenaline and conditional daze, i will not take it, not in pvp, not in pve... Ok no prob in para team, good dmg, daze casters sounds good right? NO, daze in pve = lame, just take Technobabble in pve if casters is a prob... there is better skills for pve, don't waist an elite spot for this imo. ok, pvp daze = awesome, but 10 adrenaline? ok, ta, gvg, ha it may be good i dunno, but ra, ab, fa, jq, the foesw will die before you get enough adrenalin, and cracked armor to get this up faster is fail in pvp imo. use it, i don't care, i will not (i don't play para that much in pvp, so idk)- Harrier's Toss
- Harrier's Toss
- Harrier's Toss
- to be uppdated
