User talk:Great Darkwolf/copyright

Copyright

Hi, make sure your images follow the copyright rules -- we can only accept GFDL or ArenaNet images. -- Brains12 \ talk 15:48, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Which Image(s) are in question? --Wolf 15:49, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

I would guess Image:User Great Darkwolf Agro Control.jpg, after looking at Recent Changes. Anything else? --Chaiyo Kaldor talk contribs 15:52, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) Image:User Great Darkwolf Agro Control.jpg specifically, but there might be a few more that you've uploaded -- for example, Image:Wolves.jpg seems unlikely to be GFDL, as do Image:Demon Hunter.jpg and Image:Under Construction Sign.gif.

While I'm here, make sure you follow the naming convention for user images too. -- Brains12 \ talk 15:52, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, my user Icon. I had something similar for a VERY long time that I made myself, but then Halo 3 can out with the parts for me to re-assemble it in a much cleaner fassion. On the Argo Control Image, A friend of mine made that for me. Well, considering it does have the Pirates of the Carribian in it, I should probably re-work it wiht a different image. But then again, Regina has a Metraoid for her user pic. Also, the Error 007 User Box uses copy-writen material --Wolf 15:56, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Working on fixing naming atm. --Wolf 16:03, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Image names fixed --Wolf 16:17, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Apparently the Vista icon isn't actually a Windows icon, but it was created by someone to use here. Regina's sig image is the same. Not sure about the Error 007 userbox, but still -- that doesn't mean the Agro image shouldn't be deleted. -- Brains12 \ talk 16:40, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Okay, so here is my input... The copyvios are:

1. Image:User Great Darkwolf Agro Control.jpg - Uses content from of the 'Pirates of the Caribbean' series of films
2. Image:Wolves.jpg - Seems to use content from here. There is no copyright notice on the website linked, but I'll try to find the original source/licence
3. Image:Demon Hunter.jpg - Source - Author claims that it was made using images from Google, so I really doubt it's GFDL.

About the Vista icon, just because it has a name of a copyrighted OS doesn't make it a Microsoft image, and thus not under the GFDL. The image was self-made. Same goes for Regina's sig icon. About the [[:Image:User Ereanor Err7 Bond.jpg|Error 007 image]], it looks to me that it's a copyvio.
If you have any questions please feel free to ask. -- Indochine talk 17:06, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

* On the Windows Icon, I thought I had seen it somewhere in vista, but I dont use it, so I could easily be wrong.

* On the Wolves, I don't know the source, was given to me by a another friend. Was ment as a place holder until I could get a suitable pic from Guild Wars

* On the Demon Hunter icon, I got that from their own site a long time ago

* On the Metroid, the fact that it was made by a user still does not change the fact that it depicts material that is copy-writen. While the image itself may not be copy-writen, the material in it is.

* On the Pirates pic, same deal as the Metroid, almost. The friend who made that for me owns the DvD that it came from (as do I) and used a simple Pause + Print Scrn to optian it. that image it's self is not copy-writen, that material it contains however, is.

* On the Err 007, could very well be the same case as the Metroid.

I'm fairly certian that if I made a version of the Demon Hunter symbol myself, it would still constitute as a copyright violation, as it still contains copy-writen material, just like the matroid. I'm sure Nintendo could consider that a copyright vio if they wanted to. --Wolf 17:15, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

The fact you own Pirates of the Caribbean does not mean you can use material from it on a GFDL site, you can't. The Demon Hunter image is also copyrighted so again, not GDFL. Basically, unless it's an image you drew/created not using copyrighted material yourself, or has been released under the GDFL license, is part of Public Domain, or is Anet copyright, it cannot be used on this site.-- Wyn 17:25, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Well then, The Error 007 user box needs to be removed, and so would Regina's Metroid User Icon. --Wolf 17:32, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

This pretty much falls into the fair use policy that we all want, but A.Net won't give is. Theres a low chance there GFDL anyways. Dominator Matrix 17:22, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

I feel I have to point out that using the argument that "Someone else is apparently breaking the rules, so that means I can too" is wrong. You cannot control what someone else does, only what you do, and you have been asked to change your images based on our current copyright policy. You have been given all the valid reasons why this request is reasonable, so be reasonable in return. -- Wyn 17:45, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm working on finding something to replace the two images in my user box, and Argo Control is getting a change shortly. I just found it odd that I'm now running into trouble for roughly the same thing as some other stuff out there that has been fine for quite some time. I wasn't trying to get myself out of anything. Someone felt the need to point out that I was breaking regs. I was not aware of those regs at the time, but I am now (that does not excuse it either). Now that I am aware of the regs, and I don't think it would be too unreasonable for me to bring some other potential breaches in policy to light. --Wolf 17:51, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

And as a member of this community, you are welcome to point out those breaches to the users.-- Wyn 17:57, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

My two offending user boxes have been changed. The Agro Control Image is getting worked on right now. --Wolf 18:00, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Agro Control has been fixed now too. --Wolf 18:09, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) That's what makes the wiki go round. You violate a rule, someone points it out, it gets fixed, and you proceed to point out other violations. I like to call it a game of tag; there's unsigned tag, copyvio tag, and so on. The only trouble is when people don't play. Also, it is just astounding how Regina's sig is brought up so often in copyvio discussions, but no one's called her on it. --Chaiyo Kaldor talk contribs 18:01, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

I'd like to say thanks for cooperating in removing the copyrighted content. I hope understand why this is necessary. -- Indochine talk 18:31, 17 July 2008 (UTC)