Talk:Control

it looks like the only things that link here are the team roles nav and the link on the bottom of the main page, should this stuff be moved to Controls and this page set up to deal with the team role? 24.130.140.36 19:23, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Split

There are roughly four ideas that could be covered by an article with this title:

1. Game controls, which has to do with keyboard shortcuts and the like (the current content)
2. The tactic of controlling the enemy's conduct, which involves lots of different team roles (e.g. a tank controls aggro, a puller controls position, ...)
3. Control, the so-called third piece of the Damage/support/Control trinity.
4. Controller, a player/hero who focuses on that role.

I propose that refactor the current arrangement as follows:

• Move this article to Game control (following the standard practice of using non-plural titles)
• Repurpose Control as an article about the third piece of the trinity; uses #2 and 4 would also be included.
• Use {{otheruses}} to disambig the two new articles (and not create a separate {{disambig}} article).

I don't see the need to distinguish Control (tactic) from Control (trinity), Control (team role), or Control (team roles). (Further, as a naming convention, I prefer (team role) to (team roles), since each (Control, Damage, Support) is only one (umbrella) role.) – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 23:41, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Let me translate my above comment into something more resembling English:

I feel that this page, Control, should be used to cover the team role (from the Damage/Support/Control trinity). I also feel that "tactics" is covered under (or perhaps implied by) the control role. I don't feel the need for a "controller" article any more than I feel the need for a "healer" article (which is to say, not much at all - a healer is one who heals, a controller is one who controls, everything important is covered by the role article).

I also feel that we should make an exception to the "singular article names" rule for Game controls. One does not generally look up or concern oneself about a single method of controlling the game, e.g. the w key; one generally concerns oneself with a set of controls the game offers (the movement keys, targetting, chat commands, etc) or the system as a whole.

-- Armond Warblade 00:06, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

If I correctly read your remarks that resemble English, we both want to see this article used for the team role and the keyboard stuff moved to a new article. I prefer game control because it's easier to create links to the singular and plural version, but I don't have a problem with using the plural form (as Armond sez, they are almost always discussed in the aggregate). We both also agree that anything related to the team role (tactics or a player/hero fitting the role) should be included in the team role article (i.e. this one). – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 00:15, 7 December 2011 (UTC)