Talk:Trading Blows

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Why no join the normal & hard mode versions. Then simply split the quest rewards section for normal & hard mode? ChaosBurst 04:11, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

The box would not work: HM has different prerequisits than NM. Also easier to put into categories this way. --Xeeron 10:52, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
I see your point. ChaosBurst 18:11, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

"If having difficulty with the waves of foes, use a minion master hero and flag it to the waterfalls to the southeast of the Diplomats - they will follow the minions to heal and be out of range of the majority of spawns. " THIS IS NOT TRUE in HM --The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) at 00:56, 16 October 2011 (UTC).

Wrong. I wrote that! and I've used it threefold times. try using AOTL and disabling heals on hero bars. It always works if you're operating it correctly. --User Chieftain Alex Chieftain Signature.pngChieftain Alex 17:04, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

There are no falls to the south east. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) at 01:09, 7 January 2012 (UTC).

Its a shallow stream with rocks and small falls User Chieftain Alex Chieftain Signature.jpg Chieftain Alex 00:23, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
Was wondering cause spawns pop out on the stream, and the diplomats don't always follow, seems after a point in the dialogue they stop moving. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) at 00:42, 7 January 2012 (UTC).

For some reason 2 minions get stuck to the north of the diplomats and they wont move no matter where the necro healer is. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) at 01:51, 7 January 2012 (UTC).

Minion Pictorial[edit]

User Chieftain Alex Trading Blows.jpg

I've had a few people pm for help with this one, so here is an image of where to put the MM.

  • Enter from Amatz Basin, go afk for 5 minutes with a necro hero with Aura of the Lich.
  • Return from afk, you should have about 6 minions.
  • Head onto the wardens, kill them and exploit their corpses with as many minions as possible. (If you use EVAS on the wardens of earth there will be more minions at the end)
  • Flag all your heroes including the MM onto the plateau where the Kurzick Diplomats are. Give the diplomats about 2 seconds to detect the minions.
  • Flag all your heroes to where I've indicated in the screenshot.
  • Wait out of aggro for the Ministry of Purity to fight the Jade Brotherhood.
  • Cleanup the remains. (you can flag your MM hero back if you're worried the diplomats will die during cleanup)
    • The Assassin boss will kill the Paragon boss, and the ministry usually win in Hard mode, resulting in about 2 mobs of Ministry to kill.

User Chieftain Alex Chieftain Signature.jpg Chieftain Alex 18:36, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Also, this might be helpful for people wanting to know where the spawns come from. (somewhat justifies my hero placement above) --User Chieftain Alex Chieftain Signature.jpg Chieftain Alex 19:15, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
User Chieftain Alex Trading Blows incoming enemy directions.jpg

I just cannot get this to work, I get two Diplomats to follow without fail everytime, but the third will not budge. I've followed the directions to the letter but nothing... Any ideas? 11:43, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
Ok, got it to work by flagging the heroes to the plateau before I entered compass range, leaving them there for a few seconds and then flagging to the said location. Cheers! 07:01, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

I gotta thank Chieftain Alex for this, I'm suck of being "stuck" on quests, which I can tell I probably would have because of the inability to bottleneck them... So this probably saved me a lot of frustrating time.--Saera Serena 20:31, 14 November 2012 (UTC)


I've added a note about the two different "groups" (Jade and Ministry) being hostile towards each other. If you use minions to pull the Allies away, the Ministry will completely eliminate the Jade, making your fight that much easier. 05:48, 1 December 2011 (UTC)