Talk:Trading Blows (Hard mode)

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They are too many! You have some advice on how i can set heroes pls?

Use a minion master with aura of the lich, kill the first mob of wardens and make minions. then go to the quest location, and then walk south-east, so that the monk NPCs follow the minions to heal them. You can keep going as far away from combat as you like. then you let the ministry fight the Jade brotherhood - and you can kill the leftovers. --File:User Chieftain Alex Chieftain Signature.pngChieftain Alex 14:08, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
ty it work ;) (I had read the same strategy on the nm page of this quest but in that page it's written that it doesn't work in hm)
Yeah well I wrote the walkthrough after doing this in HM (in NM I just killed everything without cheats :p ) , I've responded on other talk page too.--File:User Chieftain Alex Chieftain Signature.pngChieftain Alex 17:05, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

doing the aura of the lich trick worked took me a couple of times to get all 3 of them to come but got them uptop of the hill and killed the jade brotherhood as they spawned then waited them out till only like 5 guys where left and killed them--ViredSwordhammer 06:12, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Difficulty Level[edit]

Am I the only one that finds the necessity of relying on gimmicks or cheats to get through quests due to the difficulty level absolutely ridiculous???

babysitting mission are annoying because you have to find workarounds for the AI, I agree, but the rest is just a matter of tactic and builds, and I have no pbm with that :) DeoX 14:47, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
It's just not worth it. Right around here is where I give up the HM quest chain because the rewards don't justify the investment of time, cons, etc. Heroes just aren't capable of handling missions like this, and the rewards are nothing special.-- 07:02, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

I have to agree with you. I also find that the gimmicks themselves suggested do not work - the diplomats refuse utterly to do as described - only one or two will actually follow the minions, not all 3. I find it incredibly frustrating, since I play as a paragon and it seems to be impossible to do in HM with heroes. While it's good to have new quest chains, they should be tested properly by people using all classes - The live team clearly didn't try doing this as a paragon primary with hero teams. Lord drekar 13:24, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

I just tried to pull them off with a handful of minions, two of them moved a bit but the third didn't, then when I tried to get the third one too, the foes started spawning on the Diplomats. My heroes were flagged a bit further off at first except for MM, who was pulling the Diplomats. I just unflagged the heroes and c-spaced the foes and won easily. I don't see what's the problem here? I'm a Mesmer primary though. Jeree95 13:51, 31 August 2012 (UTC)