ArenaNet talk:Skill feedback/Necromancer/Order of the Vampire

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PvE doesn't need buffs. -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 17:29, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Could you elabourate why OoV is moderately often used in PvE? Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 17:41, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Good players bring a bunch of physicals with an orders/splinter bitch because physicals do the most damage in the game and bring utility in the form of AoE knockdown, party-wide buffs/healing/invincibility, interrupts, etc. -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 18:31, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

And the order they use is Order of Pain because it stacks with Dark Fury. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 19:25, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Yup. Now, read the part where Rising removes the "no stacking with other necro enchants" clause in PvE. -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 19:40, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

So it is unreasonable to make an elite good enough so it is taken in consideration rather than its non-elite counterpart? This is strange. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 19:46, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

You're ignoring how broken these teams are already and how much more broken they'd be with a second orders. -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 20:45, 4 June 2009 (UTC)