ArenaNet talk:Skill feedback/Ritualist/Vocal Was Sogolon

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It's just badly designed. What you could do is lower the cast, cost, duration and recharge, andlet people use it when unloading. That "might" work. -- NUKLEAR ^IIV 11:55, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

It's also really not worth giving up your weapon and shield mods to hold the ashes. Not only can you gain no adrenaline while holding them since you can't attack, but you also lose 16 armor and if you're using the typical equipment set, 60 health. This isn't an issue with a Rit primary so much since they have the energy regen to compensate and will usually give up a caster staff for the ashes, but even as a Rit/Para or Rit/Warrior, using a shout build with this skill is far more complicated and less effective than most straightup Rit builds. I just want the skill to provide a more universal benefit so that whether you're W/Rt, P/Rt, Rt/W or Rt/P, the skill is useful in some regard. I think the best possible change would be to make it recharge shouts and chants by 33% or even just 25%. But there's been a recent crusade to nerf or outright butcher any skill that decreases the recharge time of skills so I don't know if they'll jump on that idea. But they gotta do something with it. Painted Bird 15:28, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

What if Sogolon's ashes randomly did some shout while you carried it? "It's just a flesh wound.", for example. It wouldn't even have to actually do the skill's effect, just make the text pop up...then you could use these ashes for laughs. - Elder Angelus 20:16, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

LOL. Actually. I think that's the best suggestion yet. It would still make the skill more useful because then it'd be good for a laugh. In its current state, the skill isn't even good for that. Painted Bird 18:25, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

You could, in fact, actually make it do something like: "Whenever you use a Shout or Chant, it lasts 20...44...50% longer and is replaced by a random Shout or Chant equipped by a creature in the area for 10 seconds." That way you could get the use of lots of shouts without needing the space on your skillbar (you could take a couple and someone else could take a couple and you could share). --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:86.27.136.194 (talk).