Feedback:User/Obsidiancat31/Norn Form Appearence

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I would like to add my apprehensions on the masculine look on the snow leopard and wolf forms. My main is going to be a female norn but i don't think the wide shoulders, narrow hips and over all masculine form would suit her transformations well. I would want her to look beastly and powerful, but not at the expense of her gender.

The bear form suits me fine because it looks well suited for any gender of bear-norn fusion i can dream up, as well as looking ursine like. The raven form is a bit disappointing to me after i saw this amazing and mind blowing concept art. http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/File:Versus.jpg The only tweaks i would make on this are a slightly less rigid beak, it looks owl like. but not a completely straight raven beak either. a norn in my opinion should never look weak. even though raven is more about calculation and trickery, a norn should NEVER look weak. if it looks too much like a raven, then it would not look norn, in my opinion. it has to be a happy marriage of both forms.



Suggestion: i think its the eyes. The most intimidating part of a raven, is its stark yellow eyes that peer through your very soul! They give the bird a feral and calculating look.

Hmmm, yes.I agree with the bulk of what you said.
I think the eyes would make a difference. Atleast a bit of contrast between the eyes and the surrounding feathers would do alot to make it more beastly. The beak as well, I think perhaps make it thin, but a little jagged.
Also, about the female forms: I think that maybe leaning it up JUST a little, maybe taking a glimpse at the distinguishing marks (if any) between the genders of the ANIMALS (not the people!) would help a bit.Derikvyreflame 21:38, 29 August 2011 (UTC)


Im kinda glad you agree. and i'm also very shocked this detail was overlooked. If i were in their shoes making the best game ever made, i would be going crazy with the coolest part of this race. i would even go so far as to make the player customize their own forms at character creation! so no 2 wolves or no 2 bears look the same! that would be so bad ass! have tattoos on the bears and stuff like jora!!! http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:%22Jora%22_concept_art.jpg

anyways, minor detail makes all the difference! the ravens need a huge face lift, and thier yellow eyes need more contrast. i also think either customizing, or having selected physical attributes on your character need to transfer over to their animal forms for uniqueness. eg. a norn with a mow hawk will have a raven with some feathers sticking up, or a norn with a scar should have that scar still present on thier animal forms, same with tattoos.


--Obsidiancat31 00:46, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

I must say, I'm in agreement yet again XD A-Net should be doing their best to make everything EPIC. Even if it's epicly simple! (e.g. a broadsword that is clean, crisp, and simply designed.) I like your idea of scars/tattoos carrying over, as well. It might take a bit more work, but I believe it's evident that A-net is willing to put in the effort to make your character feel more unique. If there is an option for a scar, make a corrosponding one on each form. Tattoo? Same deal. keep it simple, leave room for some general configurations, and it would be subconsciously AMAZING.Derikvyreflame 04:07, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

To be honest I don't think snow leopard looks all that masculine. I mean, it could look way more manly then it does. And animals are animals, they don't have the same gender dysmorphia that humans (or norn) do. Perhaps they could do what they did for the charr, and make slight facial feature differences in male/female snow leopards, wolves, ect. but that would be the limit. Weindrasi 12:45, 2 September 2011 (UTC)Weindrasi