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Dissapointment

everytime theres an update, and shadow form stays unchanged(PERMA)+a bunch of other minor skill's that still control most this game,gw2 so close to release and this game so FAR from being set "right".--58.165.2.49 04:08, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

I would disagree with you personally, shadow form etc dont control most of the game. More farming etc is done without shadowform now, just because the skill is used for speed clears etc doesn't make it control the game, I can farm etc more gold/drops on my ele than I can on my sin. Spark-TBa 06:40, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

speed clears (and trading) is where the riches come from, not solo farming 85.178.223.250 21:05, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Really SF already got the foam coating nerfness... u think its OP now go look at the original skill description. Oh and Ele is OP... they shold be removed from GW completely..u guys all gotta stop echochaining shiro (among other OPness ty great ele "nerf" update into uber ele superiority) ^_^ 71.181.52.67 21:18, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

The change SF is gonna get a nerf is as big as Mending getting a buff. The reason for it is because both skills and the function they have has become a community wide understanding. Da Mystic Reaper 21:34, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

besides the "blah blah blah, check the original", FoW/UW=controlled by shadow form, i dont care if it's now able to be used by all proffessions, so was Ursan, but ursan got nerfed to shit, just like shadow form should be,, and no one disagree's ele's are made O.P, but it's still not as mindless as shadow form farming,, hell compared to frostway/glaiveway trenchway/Mesway/Fragway can all be done under an hour, thanks to Shadow Form tanking, not to mention my mesmer can tank ANY dungeon HM(that allows party), using heroes+shadow form, and breeze right threw it, even slavers...wich is a sad state to be in, everything else that help's shit keep up, gets nerfed to crap/mediocre versions of what was, and when you have lets say 5-6 characters all running "place class here"/Ele and fast farming UW lemme know, until then shadow form is controling high end of the game(still using shadow tanks in FoW), and never said Shadow Form itself controlled the game.....i RE-QUOTE "and shadow form stays unchanged(PERMA)+a bunch of other minor skill's that still control most this game" it needs to be fixed, same as OTHER skill's, gw1 is far from balanced, gw2 they havent balanced yet, last beta proved rangers and mesmers to be O.P compared to some classess and the guardian is a DPS tank(NO BALANCE AT ALL) --58.168.236.157 01:46, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Well, one thing about Ursan, is that its a PvE-Only skill, meaning its any class should be able to use it, it was just in a OP fashion, and if you wanna think about Shadowform being "perma", how about Obsidian Flesh for Eles, or Vow of Silence for Dervishes, they allow you to tank groups too, about the only difference is that they are not used by all classes as easily. Lastly, no game is going to be absolutely perfect, sometimes there is going to be classes which may be better than others, but its mostly how its played, and the changes they make, so they can make Shadowform "nerfed" but then people would just come up with something else and than its "OP". 74.196.99.155 01:55, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

"u think its OP now go look at the original skill description" <-- You mean the one where it had ~25% uptime and brought you down to around 100 hp when it ended? Look up Shadow of Haste/SF topk farmer on youtube, it was nowhere near broken. 50.136.229.5 01:42, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Why are you whining about skills that control PvE? AI is fix, so it's obvious that, when a skill is proven effective against some mobs, it starts being used by everyone. If you just want to use other skills, use them. Nobody is stopping you to do so. --151.64.134.15 09:15, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

This game is DEAD... accept it! I still wait for promised PvP updates for Paragon nearly 2 years now, same as Ranger and Smite Update but I think this will never happen anymore, also Joko Plot... its just dead in my opinion, look at HA, you need 30 Min+ to get matchup... --Kali Shin Shivara 16:47, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Fixed ur indent... and nice lead in to... Can i have ur sigil if u win once u find a group... i thought this was guild wars but since not many ppl do HA anymore i guess its No New Guild Wars (unless u want to spend 15e + or wait 30min and pray 4 a decent team). Somehow those mechanics seem more bothersome than a skill that helps ppl get stuff for their HoM faster (if you CHOOSE to use it and do the same thing everyone else is doing). I'm pretty sure i'll be using SF later today doing the NoWay SC of the UW. 71.181.51.45 21:27, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Also, still not fixed? lets see... bridge in cantha = invisible, mob on a primary quest that never fights, z-axis recognition so trapping under a bridge doesn't work... i can keep going if u want... 71.181.51.45 21:32, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Which hero in the mesway support team uses shadow form again? and which of those teams DOESN'T rely on those "other minor skills that still control the game"? those wouldn't be those few minor PvE only skills that Anet reduced the rank to max their effectiveness. I'm not sure what part of start a new character in NF or Factions head thru hunted/nahpui then aim for eotn and do < half a dozen speedbooks makes shadow form your problem with those teams. I'm sure if the PvE skills title vs effective attribute hadn't changed there would be quite a few less new faces every time u head for those areas. Its probably not as many new ppl and mostly the same ones with a new re-roll once the drop rates started to suffer on their older character 71.181.51.45 07:48, 15 August 2012 (UTC)