Feedback talk:User/Agaetis Ros/Z points for Z quests

You can get the quest and do it and over and over for that day, so yes, you could farm it. Previously Unsigned 16:15, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Wrong, yes you can do the same quest multiple times on a account but that is limited to once per character you have (maximum 32-36?). And I think this would be a good idea if it only gives 1-5 Zaishen reputation points, getting one z-key when only playing PvE takes alot longer then getting one z-key in PvP so it would still be fair. Qaletaqa Hania 04:53, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

You can get them over and over. Maybe you haven't tried. It's not once per character unless you mean total times maybe. Previously Unsigned 23:09, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

All Zquests can be done only ONCE per character. Therefore, only the PvP Zquests are farmable, and the Zmission and Zbounty are not. So if all Zquests received Zpoints in their reward, then, yes, they would be farmable by the PvPers. And isn't the point of your suggestion to allow PvE players to be able to compare to PvP players in ability to earn Z points? To set it up the way you suggest, would allow PvP players to get their Zpoints that much faster. What would have to be done is to give Zpoints for only the Zmission and the Zbounty, which wouldn't make much sense because Zcombat is still a Zaishen quest and should be subject to the same rules as the others.

Instead, what could be done, is somehow offer Balthazar faction to PvE players. Or, even better, introduce a new type of faction, which would be similar in every way to Balthazar faction, just a different name. This would allow one type of faction for one gameplay style, and a different type of faction for the other, so they couldn't be mixed, but players would still be allowed the same types of rewards. My idea is to introduce Grenth Faction. If you think about it, it makes sense. By completing missions, vanquishing, completing Zbounty, etc you are killing foes and sending souls to Grenth's realm, the Underworld. So he thanks you by awarding you faction. This way, PvE players would have just as much access to the items of the Zchest. --MushaTalk 02:00, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure the Z combat could be taken several times a day. Anyway the point was PVE indeed. Why would PVE player not earning Z points while playing Z quests? The idea of other facions is great. I never understood why Lightbringer and Sunspear are not factions and therefore account-wide titles. Agaetis Ros 15:01, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

About the Z combat being farmable... Each Z quest can be completed only ONCE per character, but a PvP character has full access to the Zcombat quests. So, what they do is, create a PvP character, complete the Zcombat quest, delete the PvP character, create it again, and do the Zcombat quest again. That is how they are able to do it multiple times a day. It just requires multiple deletions and recreations. And this isn't feasible for PvE players since it takes a long time to take a PvE char that far. Also, after my earlier post here, I decided to make my idea an official suggestion and posted it here.