Guild Wars Wiki:Project/Guideline Report

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The Problem[edit]

It is difficult to track progress on projects that check many different pages.

History[edit]

Several different approaches have been tried:

No tracking
Results in chaos. Nobody knows what is going in.
Separate manual table entry
This has been tried and there are many issues:
  • Keeping the table up-to-date is more trouble than the work itself.
  • Creating the original table is time consuming and error prone.
  • Some form of encoding is needed to keep the size of the report reasonable.
  • Encoding requires editors learn the codes, which further discourages keeping things up-to-date
DSL reports
There have been several attempts at this. It works better than the Separate manual tables but is not a roaring success. This project is intended to advance those efforts.

Report structure[edit]

'Geographic' Report structure
How should the report for geographically dispersed pages be structured?
  • One massive report
Takes a long time to load and puts a huge load on the server when it is viewed.
Difficult to find specific items
  • By campaign reports
Almost as bad as the single massive report. Their size varies a lot.
  • By region reports
Some regions are common to different campaigns. (Not a major issue.)
Some reports will be quite large, others are small, even trivial
  • By zone (areas, outposts and so on) reports
Not currently supported by categories.
Some zones are common to different campaigns. (Not a major issue.)
Some zones will be empty.
'Item' Report structure
How should reports about items be structured?
  • One massive report
Takes a long time to load and puts a huge load on the server when it is viewed.
Difficult to find specific items
  • By category
What are the categories?
  • By category and sub-category
Some categories may not sub-divide.

Content[edit]

What should be reported
What should go into each report?
  • Section by section reviews
  • Feature presence
  • How should the topics be listed?
Where to get the information
What is the source of the information?
  • Individual reviewers
These will be peoples opinions - who and when? reliability? consensus?
  • Wiki structure
DPL queries
Where to keep the information
How to keep the information for the reports?
  • Article page
This works for structural information.
  • Talk page
The main talk page is expected to be for discussing the article contents. Formal structures are sort of jarring.
  • Article sub-pages
Possible, but are usually reserved for fact based material
  • Talk sub-pages
Hard to get to

Templates[edit]

observation
There is a special report for unused templates. Any report on the usage of a template belongs on a discussion sub-page.

An example of such a report is here. There are some problems with it:

  • It uses nested DML, which is hard to write. Maybe using a seperate template for the inner DPL report would be better.
  • It produces two fairly big reports on the same page. One on actual usage, and the other on potential usage. It may be better to have separate reports.
  • It uses a user space template. That template should be moved to main space.
  • Feedback on it is needed.