Talk:"There's Nothing to Fear!" (Thackeray)

It didnt put this skill on my bar during the quest Auspicious beginnings

Wow

He's quite the leader if he would have that much leadership. 69.230.61.205 20:29, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Yea, but he should work on his Sunspear rank a little. --72.229.231.53 04:51, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Trivia

Trivia note is useless. Both of the rank listings are incomplete/incorrect. The correct value for sunspear rank -7 is calculated to be a damage reduction of 9%, not 10 (meaning that the 10% is a value unaffected by its rank). As for the Leadership rank, it's actually in the ranks 111 and 112 and because it's an educated guess, then both values should be listed. Aside, I vote it should be removed, on top of the inaccuracies, the information doesn't do anything to inform players other than to show that rank progression follows an algorithm, which is assumed to be the case in the first place.(Xu Davella 22:53, 24 November 2010 (UTC))

"Trivia note is useless."

"Trivia [...] useless."

Is there a problem here? — Raine Valen 1:25, 25 Nov 2010 (UTC)

"As for the Leadership rank, it's actually in the ranks 111 and 112 and because it's an educated guess, then both values should be listed."

I'm not sure if you noticed, but the duration of TNtF! goes up 1 on every even rank (or every other rank) of Leadership. Thus TNtF! last for 60 seconds at 112 or 113. However, rather than throw any more numbers to confuse any potential readers, I just simplified it and wrote 112, hoping people would understand the definition of require. Sure, 113 also makes TNtF! last 60 seconds, but the breakpoint is 112. --Riddle 04:35, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Usefulness aside, trivia notes should at least be demonstrably true. The negative Sunspear value can not be verified, and there's no basis for extrapolating negative values at present. MA Anathe 06:30, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

I think the point of the trivia is to show that Thack's version of TNtF is not an ordinary player skill, i.e. that it is super charged. I don't think the exact values are particularly interesting, whether they relate to ranks (110? or 120?), damage reduction (9%? or 10%?), or anything else.  — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 06:56, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

But I think saying that it requires the leadership rank of 112 demonstrates the impossibility of the duration better than simply saying players can't do it. --Riddle 15:21, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

I would agree on removing them. Anyone who has played far enough through Keiran's storyline to get this skill has probably figured out that NONE of his skills are player-achievable skills. No matter how much I think we all want that stance... Guildwarsrunner 06:48, 4 January 2011 (UTC)