Template talk:Bad guild page
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Much better, nicely done. —Tanaric 03:51, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not too sure of the "Welcome to the wiki" part, the "welcome" friendliness doesn't go with the color and the icon. But meh, it's just me. Are bad guild pages always created by newcomers to the wiki? :) -- ab.er.rant
03:54, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
- For the next couple weeks? Yes. :) —Tanaric 03:55, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Kill, it, lunacy. — Skuld 11:59, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
- I agree with Skuld here (surprise? :P). It's big, gaudy, has lots of text (not the best for this kind of thing), and even the name sounds negative. While I've never cared about pissing people off, this will probably do it for some. But it's not really necessary, just use a stub tag (or, if you're intent on getting their attention, at least leave their content and put a tag on top of it). Blanking and throwing on a paragraph and a half of text doesn't seem like the way to go on this. -Auron My Talk 12:09, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
- I would agree that, in theory, using a stub tag and messaging the user would be great. However, due to the huge volume of pages that have been created in such a short timeframe, it's really not possible. This tag has actually worked very well - most of the users have read the tag, looked up the policy and formatting, and come out with something on their own. It may seem aggressive, and I've argued myself that in some cases stubs should be used, but there are *that* many pages being created that the job is unfeasable.
It's really not nice to have words like idiocy thrown around when all I, and quite a few other contributers have tried to do is keep the Guild namespace manageable.AT(talk | contribs) 12:14, 25 May 2007 (UTC)- Sorry, again ;p One easy way to fix this would be to edit the new page text for the guild namespace to a help/format page; at the moment it just says "create new page" - how is a new user to a wiki going to find that out? They just see "create page" and do so, more than understandably... — Skuld 12:17, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
- There has been a small addition to the editing window - "Are you creating an article for your guild? If so, please read our guild pages policy first, or your submission may be immediately deleted!". It doesn't seem to have made much of an impact though, many guild pages are still being created that are one word long, defamatory, or unreadable. The best way I can think of is to add a cleanup section to the policy. Perhaps add a {{guild-cleanup}} tag to the page in question, then add the {{bad guild page}} if no improvement is made in a certain timeframe? It's still going to be a lot of work though, and it's not even the weekend yet :( AT(talk | contribs) 12:22, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry, again ;p One easy way to fix this would be to edit the new page text for the guild namespace to a help/format page; at the moment it just says "create new page" - how is a new user to a wiki going to find that out? They just see "create page" and do so, more than understandably... — Skuld 12:17, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
- I would agree that, in theory, using a stub tag and messaging the user would be great. However, due to the huge volume of pages that have been created in such a short timeframe, it's really not possible. This tag has actually worked very well - most of the users have read the tag, looked up the policy and formatting, and come out with something on their own. It may seem aggressive, and I've argued myself that in some cases stubs should be used, but there are *that* many pages being created that the job is unfeasable.
Bad guilds?[edit]
Bad as in "naughty", bad as in "good", bad as in "pathetic", or bad as in "incorrectly formatted"? Move this to "Guild policy notice"? -- Dashface 
15:09, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
- Support for that move - I know that some people can missunderstand this "bad guild page" as a guild page of a bad guild - MSorglos 15:19, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
