ArenaNet talk:Skill feedback/Monk/Healer's Boon

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FC healer builds are made of gimmick and fail, nerfing HB to death won't make them competitive. However the other issue (Healing Prayers skills being weak due to synergy with Healer's Boon) has merit. -- Gordon Ecker 03:52, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

I completely agree, Orison of Healing is trash but if they buff it it will be overpowered with HB. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:72.71.223.24 (talk).

I'll second that. Currently HB has pretty much pushed out WoH as the healer's elite of choice since if you take WoH you have one very powerful heal, but with HB all your other heals become pretty powerful too. What's more, it discourage's hybrids rather (which is OK in 4v4 since at the same time it makes you have to think how you're gonna get condition removal in, but in 8v8 isn't a problem since all the prot skills you want to take can go on your co-monk's bar). --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:82.25.180.160 (talk).

Oh wait, if you want to know what overpowered is, try Healer's Boon + healing touch with 14 divine favor and 12 healing prayers. If my guess is correct that's a cheap, fast casting heal for around 210-200 health.

Not to burst your bubble, but straight out healing like that, especially self-only, is thorough shit, no matter how high the numbers are. -- NUKLEAR IIV 13:57, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

BTW check out Ethereal Light and compare it with Mend Body and Soul. Ethereal Light heals less at all levels, has slower cast time, is easily interrupted, has longer recharge time, and has no condition removal. Healer's Boon is the only skill that is holding Ethereal Light back from being buffed. Face it, this skill is the reason why healing prayers suck. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:72.71.239.110 (talk).

No. HP sucks because the entire line is composed of "red bars go up." Prot is so much more efficient (effort and time wise) that nobody would bother with HP unless it is broken, at which point gimmicks abuse it. -- NUKLEAR IIV 23:30, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Then I suppose you haven't heard of Cure Hex.

Nuclear: Nobody would bother with Prot. Prayers unless Blessed Signet wasn't so broken... See what i am doing here? Blessed Signet + Healer's Boon are the two main reasons to roll a monk for using Healing Prayers/Protection Prayers spells. Have you seen many primary monks running around with big Ele's spells that cause exhaustion? Have you seen many primary monks running around with mesmer interrupts/shutdown spells? Have you seen a MM primary monk? All non-primary attribute skills are balanced around things/other skills that exist/inherent at/from that same profession's primary attribute. Or at least that's the idea on Anet. GW had a great idea about secondary professions, though it somehow failed on implementing it. I just hope GW2 does better. Eth 10:33, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

I tl;dr'ed at "Nobody would run prot prayers unless Blessed Signet wasn't broken" What? -- NUKLEAR IIV 16:44, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm beginning to get quite sick of this elite. It is definably over powered because it has absolutely not limitations and no draw backs other than the back that it only works on healing prayers. Monks can to easily keep this up constantly and just spam highly effective heals. It either needs to be come maintainable again, weakened, or both. Gil 01:10, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

The problem is that there are a lot of healing prayers that are bad right now but are good, even overpowered with healer's boon. Normally, if someone in my team was using Orison as a healing skill, I would kick the idiot out, and rightfully so. Orison is trash with long cast time and negligible healing. However it is dcent, even good when combined with healer's boon. Ethereal Light is plain bad compared to Mend Body And Soul. Less healing, more recharge, no conditional, slower cast, and interruptibility. Combine with Healer's Boon and you easily heal for 170+ damage including divine favor. The interrupting doesn't even matter when it's 1/2 second cast either. Forget about Word of Healing, if you want to heal yourself, use Healing Touch for a quick 180 damage heal. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:72.64.4.234 (talk).

And nerfing this accomplishes what? If you've ever seen a skill nerfed, you know they don't even bother making up for it with buffs for months, in some cases years. The result would be a Healing Prayers as useless as before this and Word of Healing were buffed. This skill can and should be like it is because once you choose this, you only have the option of non-elite spells from one lone attribute. Signets, skills and other attributes gain no benefit from it. If anything, the recharge or duration should be tweaked to make it something you need to pay attention to. Plus, why the hell are you comparing Mend Body and Soul to Ethereal Light? Mend Body And Soul should be compared to Dismiss Condition and Ethereal to Orison of Healing, simply because of their functions. Though I suppose we could argue about why Meteor is so much better than Shatter Enchantment. Bathory 13:05, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

The main problem is that this can't be interrupted, and even if it was (or was removed) it can be reapplied very quickly... plus it can cover Channeling and means that non of your other skills can be interrupted either (except maybe Heal Party). OK, it's limited to spells only and all that, but the HB build everyone runs atm manages fine without signets or prot prayers things. Yeah, it's not viable in RA or TA et.c. which is a bit of a shame, but in HA for example it's much better than the alternatives, even WoH. And power creep is an issue. 86.26.63.60 15:16, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

BrotherGilburt's issue

You're not taking Divine Favor into account. Pre-buff HB was trash, the healing gain and energy loss roughly cancelled eachother out. -- Gordon Ecker 08:11, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

I removed it for now. I like the current suggestion more anyway. Gil 12:44, 11 August 2008 (UTC)