ArenaNet talk:Skill feedback/Paragon/Inspirational Speech
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Tell me it's useless when my opening attack on your backline is Backbreaker. This is an amazing skill. ~Shard (talk / Nerf List) 05:41, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
- Or, if you have any brains, you have "To The Limit!" or Enraging Charge on the Hammer warrior and never have to bring this load of crap skill. If it is so amazing, how come top GvG teams with a hammer warrior and a motivation paragon for Song of Restoration never bring this shit? As Ensign said: "This skill fails in new and improved ways." --Spura 10:36, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
- Agreed, it fails hard, but your change doesn't improve it. Your own numbers show why I would never use it: I lose 100% of my DPS to increase someone else's by 33%. A very bad tradeoff. On a side note, I see far more "Coward!" or Cruel Spear paras than I do SoR. 76.89.81.150 17:52, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
- spura makes interesting suggestions, then shows all the reasons why his suggestion is bad. which is why i love spura. spura you already listed all the reasons why this is a bad change, so why suggest it in the first place? 76.26.189.65 19:13, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, in most cases a bad trade-off. But there is a use for the skill. Paragon with 0 spear mastery and high motivation. Feel free to suggest something else. Maybe 33% boosts would make it more enticing. --Spura 10:38, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
- No, that's still bad. Name one GOOD paragon build that has 0 adrenaline skills. How do they gain adrenaline? By attacking. This skill would fail even more than it does now if it's changed how you suggest. 76.89.81.150 23:41, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- Agreed, it fails hard, but your change doesn't improve it. Your own numbers show why I would never use it: I lose 100% of my DPS to increase someone else's by 33%. A very bad tradeoff. On a side note, I see far more "Coward!" or Cruel Spear paras than I do SoR. 76.89.81.150 17:52, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
- You're assuming top guilds know what they're doing, and aren't stealing the c+space gimmick build everybody else is running. There are less than 10 guilds who have some clue as to how to play this game. ~Shard (talk) 22:13, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
- I like this skill when I play motivation paragon, just remember to use this 'after' you use your adrenaline chants (which have 5 second recharge anyway). Then it is no loss and your warriors get to spill some guts with the axe or put down some enemies with something like Earth Shaker or Devastating Hammer, cripple slash with a sword or light up Dragon Slash, whatever. If you really wanted to get absurd, you can use this with Anthem of Fury and/or have your hammer guy bring For Great Justice. Of course, my motivation paragon just brings Spear of Lightning as his attack skill to activate anthems, so his only 2 adrenaline skills are the 5 second recharge chants. If you have 7 adrenaline skills, this skill probably won't perform very well for you...also, on a totally completely absolutely un-related note, using Glyph of Essence when you are on full energy 90-100 points of energy hurts a lot, so it must need a buff. Or you can set up skills/equipment that works around the penalty. - Elder Angelus 19:13, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- I am glad you like it, but personally, I wouldn't even use it without the penalty, let alone with. 145.94.74.23 19:05, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- I like this skill when I play motivation paragon, just remember to use this 'after' you use your adrenaline chants (which have 5 second recharge anyway). Then it is no loss and your warriors get to spill some guts with the axe or put down some enemies with something like Earth Shaker or Devastating Hammer, cripple slash with a sword or light up Dragon Slash, whatever. If you really wanted to get absurd, you can use this with Anthem of Fury and/or have your hammer guy bring For Great Justice. Of course, my motivation paragon just brings Spear of Lightning as his attack skill to activate anthems, so his only 2 adrenaline skills are the 5 second recharge chants. If you have 7 adrenaline skills, this skill probably won't perform very well for you...also, on a totally completely absolutely un-related note, using Glyph of Essence when you are on full energy 90-100 points of energy hurts a lot, so it must need a buff. Or you can set up skills/equipment that works around the penalty. - Elder Angelus 19:13, 9 June 2008 (UTC)