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Naming[edit]

Where is it stated that golem is an acronym? In everything I've seen about them so far, "golem" hasn't been capitalized to suggest it, so I'm wondering where "Genius Operated Living Enchanted Manifestation" comes from. --Stormrunner 00:31, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm also wondering this, though it is supremely appropriate that the Asura would call it "Genius Operated". --J. Dublin
Called "Golem" in the booklet, so I proposed moving it. -elviondale (tahlk) 05:20, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
Would it be better to just call it "Golem (construct)"? Or "Golem (Nightfall)"? -- ab.er.rant sig 06:02, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
I think Golem (construct) would be a more fitting name than the current. - anja talk 13:22, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
I'm convinced the acronym is the right origin of the word. However, it is likely that Anet choosed to use the word "golem" in-game to avoid repeating the capitalized word all the time. All in all, i'm in favor of "Golem (construct)" like Ab.er.rant and Anja. Chriskang 13:57, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
I think one of the GWEN preview videos calls it a GOLEM with the acronym. - User HeWhoIsPale sig.PNG HeWhoIsPale 13:29, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
Sure it wasn't just all caps, and not Glyph Of LEsser Minds? .. shut up .. it's 10am and i'm still up >.> Stupid jokes are allowed.-- Txzeenath 13:59, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
I had changed moving it to Golem (Asuran construct) from moving it to Golem some time ago. Aber- it wouldn't be (Nightfall), thats for sure ;) -elviondale (tahlk) 18:42, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

I used google: http://pastebin.ca/raw/669797 It seems that somebody rummaged a bit into the GW.dat and found that. And "664 = Genius Operated Living Enchanted Manifestation" is the name of an area (a Cinematic, probably). So that's were the acronym came. I think it's something for Trivia, rather for the description. But the slution is easy. There is ONLY one more type of creatures called 'Golem' and they are actually elementals. Althought they are contructs too, that's narrative, and the game considers them as elementals. So the proper name should be Golem (construct) since Golem is already used for disambiguation. MithranArkanere 11:34, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Hmm... in game, they're referred to almost exclusively as "the G.O.L.E.M. project". --Santax (talk · contribs) 06:13, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
The project is named G.O.L.E.M. but all the creatures (NPCs) are named Worker Golem etc. I think Golem should be an article about these NPCs, and G.O.L.E.M. should be an article about the project. And this article is wrongly named. Imo. - anja talk 09:13, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
Depends... the allied ones in the final few missions are caled "D20 G.O.L.E.M. 1.0", "[[D20 G.O.L.E.M. 2.0 [Defense]]]", "[[D20 G.O.L.E.M. 2.0 [Attack]]]" and "[[D20 G.O.L.E.M. 2.0 [Ranged]]]". --77.98.23.140 11:33, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
In-universe, golem seems to be an established term among both humans and Asura, and the GOLEM project name seems be a contrived acronym. -- Gordon Ecker 12:30, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
The latter is my understanding too. Golems existed before the project, and only those golems constucted as part of the project have the periods in their name. Backsword 12:38, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Surely golem refers to the traditional jewish myth of a creature made of earth / clay? see this link.--Son of Batman 12:45, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Move[edit]

Anyone opposed of the move to the 2nd one? Or does anyone have any preferences or what? — Eloc 01:13, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

I am, as are Anja and Backsword. I don't have any objection to moving it to Golem (Asuran construct). -- Gordon Ecker 03:13, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

"Sleeping Golem"[edit]

If anyone has seen the movie "Castle in the Sky" it looks quite a lot like the robots there when theyre in their "canisters". syn // talk 16:20, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Death Animation...[edit]

The death animation for golems reminds me of the T1000 from Terminator 2, when it was frozen by the liquid nitrogen. As it tried to keep going, its limbs broke off, and it looked at its missing arm/hand in shock. When golems die, their 'heads' turn to look at their missing right arm. Might not be made in reference, but its similar. ~ A R A ~ 19:37, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Rename[edit]

I support the rename: when people type "golem" into the search box, this is the article they are most likely to be looking for. (Naturally, when the existing Golem moves to Golem (disambiguation), this article should include an appropriate disambig note, e.g. "for other uses, see..."). – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 19:07, 4 October 2011 (UTC)