Talk:Imperial Sanctum (Zaishen quest)

Oi. I'm going to be losing a lot of money today from doing runs :/-- anguard 17:25, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Losing money? -- Hong 17:37, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

I think he meant making money, although the :/ does kinda confuse me, perhaps he'll be buying runs on all his chars? C4K3 Talk 17:57, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

I pay 1-1.5k to get the run, and get 1k back. Though, it turns out I only lost 500g with the two characters I could do this. So yea, I was -slightly- mistaken.-- anguard 17:58, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Am I the only one who keeps having issues with banishing ever since the zquest? I ping the team to hug the corner, and yet (usually right after meditation of the reaper), he'll still banish me, quite randomly. Note that I used to run this before zquests even existed, and I've never had problems with banish before. =/ Ryuu - talk 18:19, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

I've yet to try this mission with a normal group, so I don't know.-- anguard 18:27, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm running as a sin with dual necroway, tbh. Ryuu - talk 18:28, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Ryuu, I have also been having problems with banishing. To be honest, I've just started successfully running Shiro today with dual necros and 1 mesmer hero. It does seem quite random, as I did the exact same thing 3 times in a row, running the same guy, but he only banished me on the first and second run-through, and didn't on the third. The only thing I can think of is that, for some reason, Mhenlo strays too close to you and this triggers a banishment when you have human tag-alongs (usually after Mediation of the Reaper). More testing will be required to know for sure though.174.20.16.76 00:49, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Just thought i'd contribute, I do this mission many times, partly for fun, partly because I needed it for different characters, and I pretty much always bring other people with me. based on my experience i'd say that something must trigger the banishing a lot more often sometimes, because my results are either extreme such as banishing every chance he gets, or not banishing at all. perhaps some characters have much higher priority, such as monks or healers (my monk was never in the fight and fought him 3 different times, was banishing me as soon as i would come back.) I was using a UA build at the time, and perhaps the rezzing might be a trigger as everytime I came back he'd wipe out most of my party, and I would dismiss UA as soon as I came back bringing someone back to life. however I have also run this multiple times on my ele and can only recall being banished if not at all, very rarely. Roflmaomgz 18:52, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

7 Hero Update

Hey, just making sure everyone knows - Shiro can't banish heroes. If you bring 7 heroes, even relatively shoddy ones can beat him in HM in about a minute. If you bring SS, Spoil Victor, E-surge + Empathy, and an illusion mesmer with Ineptitude and its clones, as well as two spirit rits or other damage-dealers of your choosing... You only need one monk, because he will die in 30 seconds. And honestly, I think the only healing skill that got used when I ran it was the mesmer's PwK, which she had because I barely bothered to optimize my hero builds for this. Still 30 seconds. And I, the player, did nothing but wand him. The first time I found out about this, it was because I accidentally entered this mish, in HM, with a joke group build and figured screw it, I'll go die. We won. The runners in Imperial Sanctum today? Yeah, they're so not worth it it's not even funny. --76.166.187.131 08:45, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

I think every runner is aware there are other ways to complete the mission. No run in this game is really needed. Shiro isn't an exception to it. Keep in mind not every player owns Nightfall and EOTN and can actually play with hero's. Also keep in mind that running is faster then most other methods of defeating Shiro. Last but not least I would like to point out that calling any person not worthy cause of the way how they enjoy the game is that your not showing respect for a fellow player.Rumian 09:03, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

While I agree that no run is "needed", you can't say that completing the whole of Kryta/Maguuma is comparable in speed to getting a run from LA -> Sanctum Cay. I also disagree that getting a run as faster than using 7 heros. A 7 hero setup only takes around 10 seconds longer than a run, while it often takes more than 10 seconds for a runner to get a full party and go (unless maybe it's ZM, a peak time, there isn't much competition for runners AND there are lots of people looking for runners). Random Weird Guy 21:23, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Lulu If you take the pvx wiki 7 hero team it's easy even in hard mode.