Talk:Guide to Survivor in pre-Searing

Known r2+

Had to begin this talk, that's why this page is made for : Pre Sentiment, I N T U I T I O N are two characters of the same player that have reached r2 : [1] and [2]--Ruine Eternelle 15:58, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

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Rank 2 for me. This is as much as I will do.--Ruine Eternelle 17:10, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

A memory to those who did not succeed

RIP Izanami Timy. Around 500kxp. I heard the story from Pre Sentimemt. If you ever read this message, I can only imagine how hard it must have been for you... Your skill to handle vanguard foes on your own deserved much better. If you ever come back to GW to do this title once again, be sure that I will help as much as I can. Ruine.--82.240.45.162 20:45, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Pre Sentiment and I N T U I T I O N here. Yeah, I really felt bad for Timy when I first heard about it. I consoled him/her as best I could and sincerely hope that the player does not give up on the dream. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kolinahr (talk • contribs) at 20:17, 4 August 2015 (UTC).

The title is hard to reach and nerve-wracking, sadly that's also what makes it worth going for it. This is a test of luck and determination.

RIP Pre Sentiment. I forgot that first char of yours. Must have been hard too. If I recall right it was 600kxp, wasn't it ? --Ruine Eternelle 22:40, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

652,395 xp. http://imgur.com/IUOmY4e --Kolinahr (talk) 19:39, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

The Way of the Fire Imp

Being the one to find and put this method here, I think it needs some more explanation/numbers to enlighten it. My LSoA is E/M, with 12+1+1 fire magic Fire Storm and Flare mainly. Hold Fire Staff +28+22 health. Armor full survivor, fire magic and energy storage runes = 620 total health. My Imp Summoner is E/M (no /W yet) too, lvl19, with Fire Storm and Symbol of Wrath (9 smiting and 12+1+1 fire). 460health.

Results :

• Vs 2*Bandit Firestarter : 35s run without the vanguard initiate bonus on the Imp Summoner, 50 with it. would be even faster with E/W.
• Vs 1*Bandit Firestarter+1*Bandit Raider : 40s run without the vanguard initiate bonus, 45s with it.
• Vs 2*Bandits Raiders : 30s without bonus, 40 with it.

The run would be even faster with Frenzy+Healing Signet. The health of the LSoA rarely go below 500hp.

The run is very fast, allows for non-eles/mesmers to shine and it is also a lot safer than without imp. The only case in which your LSoA would be at danger danger may be to experience a lag when trying to summon the imp, resulting in not being able to summon it in time. If the LSoA is too close to the shrine and Academy Monk, any raider will aim for the academy monk sooner or later, kill it, then wander a bit and find the LSoA.

Most of the time my LSoA enters aggro range a few seconds just before the foes die. If any manage to survive, Flare+Fire Storm+Fire Imp almost always kill raiders before they reach the LSoA. around 33% of the time, my LSoA is untouched, and 90% of the rest is only one or two flare from a firestarter.

Difficulties : I usually kill foes too fast or use the summoning stone too early, resulting in foes dying before my LSoA has them in aggro range or/and before my Imp Summoner dies. Death of the Imp Summoner is slow without frenzy, especially against firestarters. The ice elemental snares and bodyblocks sometimes, or aggro the Academy Monk. --Ruine Eternelle 15:21, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Edit : average 2650xp/h, but fails and half-fails (only half xp) happen. Without Symbol of Wrath, the run may be slower. Using a monk/warrior and going melee to attack the firestarters can be interesting to be sure you hit both foes with your AoE. After comparison with other professions (mesmer and elementalist) on their own, the way of the fire imp is the fastest way. The important point is the frenzy/healing signet/no vanguard initiate bonus, which will allow you to suicide faster, thus allowing to summon the imp sooner (-> safer run), steal less experience (less half-fails) and speed the run : in all cases try to do as much as possible to die faster. Focus -20health advised. --Ruine Eternelle 13:55, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Legendary Survivor in Presearing

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http://i.imgur.com/m4pVdIH.jpg It can be done...legitimately. Kolinahr (talk) 18:30, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Glad you finally did it !!! Seriously, you deserved it more than anyone else :) If i remember well, the next step is to celebrate, isn't it ? xD--Ruine Eternelle 19:57, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

That's more impressive than most of maxed titles I've encountered during the last few years. Congratulations on probably being the first one able to wear it on the entire server! :) It must have been a long way to conquer. Dmitri Fatkin (talk) 14:13, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

650-700 hours on the final attempt with I N T U I T I O N. Kolinahr (talk) 16:00, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Possible bug with characters created before the March 3rd 2011 update

There might be a bug with this. I have a lvl20 character in pre-searing which was created before the March 3rd, 2011 update. He died multiple times before that update. Last week, I reached tier 1 of the survivor title (started it after having reached lvl20). The title stays just "Survivor", no "of Ascalon" added, and no 2nd survivor title visible. When I go to Kimmes the Historian, I can choose "No foe has ever bested me in battle" (with the "ever" being definitely wrong in my case). If I click on it, he says "I'm sure you think that, but you've still got a [sic] ways to go."
Donnie Munro

Congratulation on getting survivor r1 on a character that died before reaching lvl20 ! You seem to be misunderstanding, though : there is no such thing as a "Survivor of Ascalon" title, this is just an expression used to describe a regular "Survivor" that is still in pre-Searing. If you can't see the Indomitable Survivor track, then you may be facing a bug. What you say about Kimmes is interesting though. Do you have one or two screenshots ?--Ruine Eternelle 18:02, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for clarifying this - a misunderstanding indeed. I thought there is such a title, supported by the fact that Kimmes can record it just like the Legendary Defender of Ascalon. Now I can finally leave Pre-Searing. :-P
Here are the screenshots of the Kimmes dialogue: Kimmes refusing survivor--Donnie Munro

Enjoy the rest of your journey through Tyria ! Thanks for the screenshot, I used it to update Kimmes the Historian's page which was missing the survivor title dialogue. --Ruine Eternelle 09:22, 25 June 2017 (UTC)