Talk:Lotus Strike

Hey guys what about this? Beguiling Haze[E]-> Leaping Mantis Sting -> lotus strike->Twisting Fangs /3 attacks, good damage and deadly for casters : ) ....( i would love if they reduce the energy cost of lotus strike but it would be fine the way it is now) Viento 12:28, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

I'd like to see it be able to skip an off-hand ala black lotus strike.

As it stands now, lotus strike has too long a recharge, without the advantage of skipping a lead. The energy gain is nice, but given the restrictions of 4 attack skills (reasonable sin bar) and the need to take a lead attack, I don't see the energy gain being used efficiently particularly considering most attacks are only 5 e. You're better off taking one of the other generic off-hands.

I envisage Lotus Strike being used in a few attack chains:

Palm Strike -> Death Blossom -> (lead) -> Lotus Strike > Death Blossom

(lead) -> Lotus Strike -> Death Blossom -> Moebius -> Death Blossom etc

Golden Phoenix Strike -> Shattering Assault -> (lead) -> Lotus Strike -> Shattering Assault

It is fairly limiting. 203.217.0.53 02:44, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

5 attacks is not bad at all. 68.35.91.2 22:12, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

they haven't introduced all of the new skills, have they? so maybe there will be some possibility to skip leads or cycle through two skills like right now moebius and db. Y0 ich halt 14:19, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

These skills, that we can now see are all of the skill, that can be used in pve and pvp. There are still 50 skills that are not shown here, but those skills are pve only and I doubt that there is anything like that (there is a possibility though).

This skill is great, too bad its long recharge of 12 seconds makes it a bit unusable or rather, encourages us to resort to no-lead off-hands or to continue to stick to the short recharge lead-following off-hands skills that we already have (like Wild Strike).

You could use wild strike with it tho. Such as....

(lead) -> Wild Strike -> Death Blossom, (lead) -> Lotus Strike -> Death Blossom.

Would only have 4 attack skills, can spam them all day long, and possibly not even have to invest into Critical Strikes. Won't be popular for PvP, since it is based on spike damage not attack skill spamming, but would do well for PvE. This also has the advantage of allowing high investment in Shadow Arts for self healing, since Critical Strikes wouldn't really be needed. --Deathwing 12:02, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

you're forced to take jagged strike then, all others have even higher recharged than wild strike and crit strikes is always good. crits deal more damage. Y0 ich halt 13:21, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Black Mantis Thrust. Staying alive is better than the extra damage from Critical Strike though. Could still spec for criticals if ya want. Just saying a possible use, thats all. --Deathwing 13:29, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

bmt also has a 4sec recharge. you wanna use the lead and db twice while you use both offhands once. with bmt you could just leave out wild strike and you have the standard pve spamming combo. :) still like most of the previewed skills. Y0 ich halt 13:44, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't know. However, this might go really well with Expert's Dexterity for R/A. We will see how it turns out :) --Deathwing 14:01, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Expert's Dexterity would definitely be a very good mix with this skill. You could spam pretty much any kind of combo you want. Something like Disrupting Stab-Lotus Strike-Horns of the Ox could be hella annoying with constant interrupt + kd. As for Assassins, i agree that this is mostly a way to skip Crit Strikes altogether (or more likely use it at 3 CS). Could allow for some different attribute spread and possibly different kind of builds. It's a good alternative to GFS too if you have a low recharge lead. There's no real interest of using GFS again if the guy already has DW. The other could alternative i see is Jungle Strike with a lead like BMS. Jungle Strike has too long a recharge to be viable, but if you alternate it with LS it's actually a high damage offhand. And finally the most obvious would be Temple Strike. You can use short/medium recharge lead (likely BMS anyway), short recharge dual, and alternate between TS and LS for offhand. Patccmoi 14:53, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

It's in dagger mastery, so you can use it to fuel expertise. Rampage as One with real assassin chains much?--Skye Marin 22:27, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Drop the cost, cooldown, and energy gain if you want this to be a reasonable option. -Warskull 18:37, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Warskull, this skill doesnt seem too useful with a 12 second recharge.--Atlas Oranos 10:47, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Agreed also. Given that it's mid-combo energy gain, and an Assassin's pool is limited, there's little call for so much energy. Meanwhile, at such long recharge, you'll really need to be doing enough to justify the downtime, which an offhand that requires a lead can't do.

Needs to be 6-9r ‽-(eronth) I give up 21:14, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Win

I've wanted this skill forever. Out of curiosity, Is the animation anything like Golden Lotus Strike's? ‽-(eronth) I give up 00:51, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

It'll be an offhan animation, so probably look like Black lotus strike, seeing as it shares every other feature with the skill apart from the condition. I bet they ust copy/pasted most of the skill code. --Ckal Ktak 14:28, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Whats the diff tween lead & off-hand animation?‽-(eronth) I give up 21:14, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Leads are right-handed and offhands are left-handed. --Ckal Ktak 21:34, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

This is lke the assasin's sloth hunter's shot :P--Raph Talky 22:43, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Name

To avoid confusion with the other Lotus skills (All with "Lotus Strike" in their names) Wouldn't it be simpler if the name was alered slightly. Off the top of m hea, I'd envisage, "Lotus Thrust/Stab/Attack/Slash" or "White/Grey/Pure/Benign/Sublime Lotus Strike". --Ckal Ktak 15:24, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

I like White Lotus Strike. =P 72.81.222.90 22:22, 21 November 2007 (UTC)