Talk:Primordus

Primorial

It should be noted in this article that the word "Primorial" refers to the first being to live. Something along those lines, so there should be a trivia subsection, look up "Primorial" and add that his name is a reference to this since he is also the first dragon.

But wasn't Glint the first living being created by the gods?--Glenforder 08:54, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Nope. -AyaStowar

Well, the article on Glint implies otherwise. Someone who knows should probably clarify.--Glenforder 08:53, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Being that these beings rival the gods, could they have just been in existance in the beginning, just like the gods... Killer Revan 02:44, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

That's an idea...I personally think they were made by the Five Gods who then realized their mistake and tried to destroy the Ancient Dragons. However, they couldn't kill them, and so had to settle for sending them into hibernation instead. -AyaStowar(UTC)

Maybe we will find out more in GW2? I cant wait for the GW2 Lores to be released. --Firadesunna 16:42, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Glint was the first dragon CREATED BY THE GODS. mabye theese dragons were around BEFORE the gods...

I think the term you're talking about is primordial, which does imply being the first or original, but can also simply mean really, really, really ancient, or primeval. It's been stated that Glint herself was the first creature put on Tyria by the gods, and the ancient dragons, of which Primordus is one, were present before the gods appeared. We'll just have to see how this all gets cleared up, or doesn't, in GW2 I guess. Right now this is all just a lot of speculation. :) --Skogul 04:42, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Glint is young compared to the ancient dragons. Therefore, since glint was the first creature to be created by the gods, the ancient dragons came from before the time of the gods. Silavor 19:32, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

GW2 link

The GW2W link says For those seeking a more detailed article. GW2W barely has info at all on this ~ SCobra 10:16, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Image

Shouldn't there be an Image of the "statue" since technically it is primordious... I'd do it but there are 2 problems 1. Leveling my survivor ranger(again) and 2. I don't know how to load an image. Heh heh almost forgot to sign Weaponmaster 23:44, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

I Concur... and I don't remember my user info. ~Timothy

Interesting postulation

According to this, it is conjectured that Primordus powers the Asuran Gate Network because the "statue" "practically bleeds magic". However, in GW2, Primordus is no longer in this "statue" form, yet there are still Asuran Gates. How are these gates being powered? Passifis 14:38, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Asura = Mursaat = Bloodstones = Dead Krytan People 66.202.1.169 00:50, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Good, a use for Krytans. Kirenne Starfire [Kw] 05:46, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, other than them already being the place where most humans in GW2 live. :P--Calvar Shockheart 01:10, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Oh wow did someone just say (postulation) T1Cybernetic 12:26, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

There are also gates that aren't linked to the Central Transfer Chamber, so I assume the Asura have a different power source as well. However, to create a hub, the likely needed more energy than a single gateway would, hence the choice of location. 145.94.74.23 11:51, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

(Reset Indent) It is an interesting idea that Primordus may be the power source for the Asura Gate Network, but it is no more than a conjecture, a guess. In GW2 Primordus will be up and about, and so will the Asura Gates. It would seem apparent to me that Primordus would not be the power source for the Gate Network, while at the same time routing the Asura from their tunnels. This would make Primordus a hypocritical dragon, and everybody knows that dragons are impervious to hypocracy (sarcasm). I hope the Guild Wars 2 staff writers don't make Primordus out to be so backwards that it both helps and hinders the races. I doubt that said conjecture will prove to be true. *My counter-conjecture* - Ara ~ A R A ~ 02:04, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Actually, Primordus is said to be the source by Vekk. But I would assume that it's only the source for the Central Transfer Chamber - as each gate would, theoretically, need it's own power source. Especially if they are anything like what they are referenced from, Stargate, in which the gates had to have it's own individual power source if you are starting that side (the other side didn't need a power source). I would assume that the Bloodstones, which does not require Chosen blood to release magic from (as the magic "seeps into the land" as the Prophecies manual puts it), would be the new source. An Asura hub may be placed above either the Bloodstone Fen bloodstone, or the Bloodstone Caves bloodstone.

Also, A R A, about your original conjecture (It would seem apparent to me that Primordus would not be the power source for the Gate Network, while at the same time routing the Asura from their tunnels. This would make Primordus a hypocritical dragon...) that is actually not true as Primordus would be involuntarily helping the Asura. In other words, the Asura are taping into magic they do not understand fully. -- Azazel The Assassin\talk 04:37, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

To my knowledge, Vekk states that the Central Transfer Chamber was built where it was because the statue is magical, but he never blatantly states that the statue supports the gate system, though I could be wrong. Keep in mind Azazel, that everybody here can do nothing more than guess until more data is released concerning our subject. I pointed out at the end of my post (see above) that I was making a "counter-conjecture". Another guess about Primordus might be that the magic that the Asura used to power the Central Transfer Chamber was merely the magic which was used by the dragons to go into hibernation in the first place, and that their magic is much more controlled in their waking form. My point here isn't to make guesses, but to inform you that none of us can actually make any statements of fact concerning the gate network at this time. In the future, if Guild Wars 2 is created and released, then perhaps we will know for certain. Right now, though, nobody here can tell anybody else that they are wrong. - Ara ~ A R A ~ 03:08, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

I think that the power source might be Rata Sum itself. In GW1, it is powered by those generators, right? So why would the Asura not set up a huge generator in the Rata Sum of GW2 that could power the city AND the Gate Network? - Adark 22:20, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

I think its awesome

that my GW2 character will join in with my GW1 character's stories many years later --Hubbard (talk) 03:59, 18 November 2010 (UTC)