Talk:Witman's Folly

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Almost fully edited the page, so more information is shown xD. Vince2doom 14:58, 15 April 2007 (EDT)

Grawl Ulodytes[edit]

Is there really Grawl Ulodytes in here because I have never seen one and i farm here a lot both in Hard Mode and Normal. 18:14, 30 April 2007 (EDT)

Yes they are there, you'll find them with the monk boss Vince2doom 18:17, 30 April 2007 (EDT)

okay thanks i'll look harder next time 18:47, 2 May 2007 (EDT)

Vanquisher title[edit]

I cleared the area of 101 foes for 505 experience and 303 gold. I believe only 87 were required, the rest were Azure Shadows that spawned. Tedium 17:27, 7 May 2007 (EDT)

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I got 103 and that was killing azures and the black bears. so really, under 100 is required... ish.--Zemmy 23:16, 7 May 2007 (EDT)
shouldn't it be noted that there are a lot of hammer dudes here so maybe an anti knockdown skill is adviable for the monks in HM.

The note says "Vanquisher runs of this area without active quests..." - I don't think any quests take place here. -Ninjatek 03:28, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Unless it's a Zaishen Bounty quest, I'm also unaware of any quests that occur here. (A lot of people skip over this area entirely exactly because of that - there's no reason to be here.) Vili 点 User talk:Vili 03:33, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
Even if there were a Z bounty here, that wouldn't result in any additional monsters spawning. You'd only have to kill a boss that's already there. -Ninjatek 03:46, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Play on Seward's Folly?[edit]

I've often wondered if this is a play on Seward's Folly (the derogatory name for the Alaska Purchase). (not signed)

As a history buff, I would say yes, that is likely. Pucktrapper 02:06, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Rocks....or are they called stones[edit]

Their is a series of rocks to the south that look like um....welll....male genitalia Anyone else notice this? lots of times artists in video games, movies, TV shows, etc will add these little "Easter Egg's"(Pun intended). I was wondering if anyone else noticed this that is all. (ADDED) When I say the rocks, I mean the ones in the mini map(U key) and zoomed in the large map. The area looks fine from the Players prospective but it only occurse in the mini maps.

I checked it out and thought for sure you were just having an over imaginative moment, aka wanting to see something. Its actually kinda hillarious how obvious it does in fact look. Justice 23:52, 9 October 2010 (UTC)


98foes, 22min, 3heros(no mm)/1henchy (5man lol, just lame pet lvling). Ive vanqed this area before and mapped but never added the info. This is a very simple zone and is great for breaking a nooby into vanqing. Only 1 potential monk. Loads of echant removal and melee. The grawl necromancers love using plague signet so dont toss every one you have onto them. Blind does wonders for grawl warriors (i had the boon of ineptitude aka AoE blind) These grawl are weak to lightning dmg so if thats your cup of tea then thats the way to go. The nightmares and the 2 imp bosses are a very small fraction of the ~100foes to vanq so any build really shouldnt have issues with them. Ive done solo SoS vanq runs here in ~45min if that gives you any idea of the zones difficulty. Biggest threat is over-aggroing the middle which litteraly is like 20% of the zone's foes. Justice 23:52, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Northeast corner of the map[edit]

When I look at the picture for the fully explored map for this area it looks like there's some extra snowy area to explore in the very northeast corner, but I don't see any way to get to it. Is this just somebody uploading a crappy picture or am I actually missing a portion of the map that could be explored? Pjwned 16:47, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

That map is 100% explorered --you like that don't you..The Holy Dragons 16:49, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
That isn't helpful, but I guess since it's not entirely obvious what I mean here's a screenshot of my map with the disrepancy circled in red.
WF Map.jpg
The part circled in red seems to be explored when looking at the current map for the article but I can't see how that's actually possible. I've also just now noticed that other maps show pretty much the same thing as well, so I can only conclude that somebody sucks at uploading proper pictures of zones. Unless somebody objects I'm going to replace the current picture with an accurate one some time soon (unless somebody else wants to do it sooner) because the picture is misleading for cartographers. Pjwned 19:46, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Why don't you hold off on updating the map until you get a couple of other opinions. There are several spots that I thought were impossible to uncover until I accidental learned one trick or another. On the whole, stuff like this doesn't have much impact on cartographer because most of the campaigns offer far more than "100%" of map to uncover. However, I agree it's annoying (esp. when you are in the middle of a VQ/mish and trying to clear one small spot before your minions die). — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 20:01, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Right, I wasn't going to replace the map right away since it could very well be possible to explore that area (hence why I brought it up in the first place after all), but it certainly seems like somebody messed up when uploading the current picture for the article. Pjwned 20:21, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
That reminds me: a very good place to check this out (and ask again) would be on Guild Wiki. One of the admins there has taken the time to post clean maps of the uncoverable areas; he went to great pains to avoid using gimmicks (e.g. portal jumping) (I don't remember if he finished posting all the explorables for proph, tho). He has also measured the number of total pixels available and compared to the total possible (again, without the bonus spots). Next to Cartography Made Easy, perhaps the best tool for Legendary Cartography candidates. — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 20:07, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Cool, I might check that out if I'm having issues with cartography or run into something similar on this wiki or whatever. Pjwned 20:21, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Ask Ish; if anyone is likely to know (and care about the accuracy of the uncovered area on the maps), it's going to be him. — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 22:28, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Final follow-up: Ish's methodology. — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 20:13, 10 June 2011 (UTC)