User talk:Auron/GuildWarsSucksSoMuch/Shitway
Your third image link in the second section 404s. --216.241.108.106 12:06, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
You could actually start by clicking and not tabbing through all opponents. Might help yknow. Unexist 17:36, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, except not. Just putting my cursor in the general vicinity of the minions causes their names to all pop up, which makes selecting anything a nightmare. Clicking is a valid tactic when there are only 8 players to choose from - and at that point, it's generally easier for me (as midline) to tab through them so I can catch skills with interrupts (or spikes with bsurge, etc). -Auron 10:43, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
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- Looking at some of them Pictures, FUCK that shit wtb hero ban from pvp pls!--Wild 04:39, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
You know, minions could be easily countered using a single skill - Verata's Aura. - Reanimated X 12:11, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
- I guess every skill is balanced, then? Mini Me 15:38, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- Who says that? - Reanimated X 15:42, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- Because a skill, no wait, a huge aspect of a game has 1 skill that may counter/hinder it, doesn't make it balanced. You're saying Hexway is balanced because there is Hex removal. You are saying Sway is balanced because there is Spiritual Pain/Signet of Spiritual Pain. You also say that every condition, knock down, and practically everything in this game is balanced because it may have 1 or 2 skills to counter it. Well, is this frickin game balanced? Titani Ertan 16:05, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- Are you fuking stupid? Where the hell did I say ANYTHING like that? Because when a person is trying to flame somebody I expect him to have something to back his point up. - Reanimated X 16:14, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- "You know, minions could be easily countered using a single skill - Verata's Aura. - Reanimated X 12:11, 14 July 2009 (UTC)"? You're not Reanimated X? P.S.:Umm, I didn't flame you. And hopefully I'm not fucking stupid. Titani Ertan 16:16, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- Where exactly did I say that the ENITIRE game is balanced? Because that was your point. - Reanimated X 16:19, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- You said that Minions are balanced because they have 1 skill to counter them. I'm comparing. It's like "Hexes are balanced, because there is Remove Hex". It's saying Searing Flames is balanced because there is Dismiss Condition or Extinguish. You see my point? Because something has a counter, it doesn't mean it's balanced. That's the core basis of balance. That's why A.net failed at balance. Titani Ertan 16:22, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- You failed to catch my point. I was just trying to show Auron that things aren't as bad as he implies them to be. - Reanimated X 16:25, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- Then all the rants aren't as bad as people imply them to be, according to "your point". "You know, Palm Strike can be countered using a timely placed Dismiss Condition." Titani Ertan 16:28, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- Again.. I was referring to THIS article. This doesn't include every single rant anyone has ever made. - Reanimated X 16:37, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- But by extension, that is essentially your argument. That doesn't mean that bringing a terrible skill just to counter one bad build makes it balanced.--salvius 16:41, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- God, another one.. Why the hell are you extending my point? Can't you read? Must I repeat myself?! - Reanimated X 16:46, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you Salvius, you spared me a wall of text. Titani Ertan 16:44, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- Because what you said is repetitive all over, against every single rant, and it is wrong. We are not extending it, we are saying that you thought your point was small, but it is huge. Titani Ertan 16:48, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- No, it's not wrong because I'm not saying that the game is balanced. What I'm saying is that the situation Auron was in isn't that bad and it could have been avoided using the skill I already mentioned. - Reanimated X 17:03, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- Right, and that argument can be used everywhere else, so why is this special? And there is no way a team would waste a slot on Verata's unless it was guaranteed that they would face a build like this. --salvius 17:07, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- Right, they have 64 slots and they can't spare one? - Reanimated X 17:11, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- Right, and that argument can be used everywhere else, so why is this special? And there is no way a team would waste a slot on Verata's unless it was guaranteed that they would face a build like this. --salvius 17:07, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- No, it's not wrong because I'm not saying that the game is balanced. What I'm saying is that the situation Auron was in isn't that bad and it could have been avoided using the skill I already mentioned. - Reanimated X 17:03, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- Because what you said is repetitive all over, against every single rant, and it is wrong. We are not extending it, we are saying that you thought your point was small, but it is huge. Titani Ertan 16:48, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- But by extension, that is essentially your argument. That doesn't mean that bringing a terrible skill just to counter one bad build makes it balanced.--salvius 16:41, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- Again.. I was referring to THIS article. This doesn't include every single rant anyone has ever made. - Reanimated X 16:37, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- Then all the rants aren't as bad as people imply them to be, according to "your point". "You know, Palm Strike can be countered using a timely placed Dismiss Condition." Titani Ertan 16:28, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- You failed to catch my point. I was just trying to show Auron that things aren't as bad as he implies them to be. - Reanimated X 16:25, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- You said that Minions are balanced because they have 1 skill to counter them. I'm comparing. It's like "Hexes are balanced, because there is Remove Hex". It's saying Searing Flames is balanced because there is Dismiss Condition or Extinguish. You see my point? Because something has a counter, it doesn't mean it's balanced. That's the core basis of balance. That's why A.net failed at balance. Titani Ertan 16:22, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- Are you fuking stupid? Where the hell did I say ANYTHING like that? Because when a person is trying to flame somebody I expect him to have something to back his point up. - Reanimated X 16:14, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- Because a skill, no wait, a huge aspect of a game has 1 skill that may counter/hinder it, doesn't make it balanced. You're saying Hexway is balanced because there is Hex removal. You are saying Sway is balanced because there is Spiritual Pain/Signet of Spiritual Pain. You also say that every condition, knock down, and practically everything in this game is balanced because it may have 1 or 2 skills to counter it. Well, is this frickin game balanced? Titani Ertan 16:05, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- Who says that? - Reanimated X 15:42, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
(Reset indent) Usually, no they could not. Verata's is pretty much useless in any game against other builds and even other gimmicks and requires a spec into death. That slot could be filled with a skill more useful against any other opponent. The point Auron is making is that the build required very little player skill and relied on the actual skills in it to be effective. --salvius 17:19, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- Ok, you've got a point there. - Reanimated X 17:25, 21 July 2009 (UTC)