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moved from User talk:Isaiah Cartwright
As God exists in absence of science's answers our speculations will not end in absence of Izzy's judgment xD Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 12:05, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
'Cept God doesn't exist. Dark Morphon(contribs) 14:14, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
He does - as a fictional construct. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 14:27, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
You have no conclusive evidence that he does or doesn't exist. For all you know, he/she might exist and not exist at the same time. 08:23, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
We that is to say I talked about one appearence of god - in that particular does indeed exist for we are its creator and origin no other meaning was objectof discussion. Doubting that this section yieled anything of worth, I'd suppose (as much to you as to me) to close it. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 12:02, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
That's a good idea. In fact, I tried doing that, but some discussion about God came up. --User Pling sig.png Brains12 \ talk 13:48, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
I can conclude so by asking me why he would. Everything can be explained by science, it just takes time to get the answers. Dark Morphon(contribs) 15:11, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
In theory, except for the fact that science is so often wrong (don't get me wrong, I like science, but firstly science relies on a lot on what's highly likely to be true rather than what's proven to be true, and secondly it's not actually possible to prove or disprove everything). --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User: (talk).
Knowledge has never been an absolute value. It consists of the following parameters: conviction, truth, and reasoning. Only truth is a binary value representing either common fasle or true whereas the other two are of gradual nature. Because of this, science, the theory of acknockledgement and the seek for knowledge are still viable objects in the world of the living. We do not have anything better and thus have to live with and by these definitions of knowledge. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 17:28, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
I dispute the defenition of truth. Truth can be relative too and is subjective to perception. 11:51, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Not as part of said and above topic where it is needed as an untouchable value. However, truth in a common sense which does not found on the boolean values may have this relative meaning. That might be called moral truth. I, however, spoke of the logical one. It would be against the laws of logic if the phrase of truth related to it had any diffuse meaning. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 15:07, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Maybe. I suppose it depends on your defenition of logic, but logic, in a way, is flawed too, because there are things that logic simply cannot comprehend. 07:36, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Quite. For example, logic cannot explain itself. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 09:20, 13 November 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for your attentiveness. No, i'm not dead. :P I'm rather inactive atm, but i'll still take a look at the wiki every now and then. And excuse me for still not having changed my page design, i actually planned to change it with halloween^^' It's actually completed, but i still wanted to "convert" it into a template before. Besides that, there are several other things i still wanted to do here, i'll try to do so sooner or later. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 23:12, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

As soon as I saw this box an idea grew within me. The only change that validated itself and did nothing but achieving its own verification. And what about bringing back all those "lost and gone " notes on so many skill pages? Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 23:17, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
"lost and gone" notes? —ZerphatalkThe Improver 01:18, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Skill icon similarities, synergy notes aimed at beginners and such. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 01:22, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
there are several skills which document icon similarities afair. And i can remember the old wiki having listed lots of these. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 08:11, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Me wants moar. Cuique suum mihique omnium. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 13:40, 16 November 2008 (UTC)


if you look closely, it actually says "underated skill" there. the question is, what does "derate" mean in this case? :D - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png

Un negates the removal (de) of rating. So underating is the adding of rating to a certain object of discussion. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 18:13, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
ah, i didn't notice it might come from "rate" ;) i thought of derivate all the time. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 20:24, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
The theory of acknowledgment teaches us that justification of knowledge triumphes truth amongst the flawful race of man. In short and informal; As long as your excuse is good enough you never did something wrong. Of course, this can be seen as a locigal fallacy. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 20:27, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
of false knowledge, i dare add. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 21:33, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Knowledge whose value of truth is disputed. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 21:36, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

sorry i havent been on much lately[edit]

sorry i havent been on lately i been wanting to play with you (finish facts and start a new toon) but i had emergency back surgery on saturday and im still recovering so i hope to see you soon KellyLSB 00:28, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

At least you reasoned it. I'm looking forward to some time to be spent together. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 06:33, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
me too i might log on for a bit today im regaining left hand mobility KellyLSB 19:23, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Where are you again? Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 04:00, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Hey, hey, hey.[edit]

I like you. *thumb up* Vael Victus Pancakes. 15:57, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, oh, greetings adept of epic randomness! Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 15:59, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
Likes you too ^^ But you know that!!! |Cyan LightUser Cyan Light SB.jpgHere!| 16:03, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
Though I hear very little of this frying dutchman. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 16:05, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
Vael, any chance you will be online? Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 18:11, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
My very great excuses =P |Cyan LightUser Cyan Light SB.jpgHere!| 18:33, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
Did you at least finish the time for heroes? Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 19:04, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
Yes, I did... Youre mental support was great ^^ |Cyan LightUser Cyan Light SB.jpgHere!| 19:10, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
Next time, I'd appreciate it when you call me and there's room for me, too :( Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 19:19, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
Im very sorry for that =( |Cyan LightUser Cyan Light SB.jpgHere!| 19:29, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
Now reply in-game again and I am fine. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 19:39, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
Ok ^^ |Cyan LightUser Cyan Light SB.jpgHere!| 11:08, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Ah jeez, sorry. I didn't login for a while 'cuzza weekend stuff. Yeah, but uhm, what do you need me online for? =o Vael Victus Pancakes. 06:57, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Why not? Meeting nice people in-game is always fun. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 08:50, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Yes, but it can be a dissapointment ^^ *points at myself ^^* |Cyan LightUser Cyan Light SB.jpgHere!| 09:09, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
You have the ability to improve that, I assume. ;) Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 09:13, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Well, lets hope for that =) |Cyan LightUser Cyan Light SB.jpgHere!| 10:08, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Saying goodbye might've been a good start..Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 10:18, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
I was kicked by internet!!! I swere(?) ^^ |Cyan LightUser Cyan Light SB.jpgHere!| 20:23, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

moved from User talk:Silverleaf
Listen!! Leaf is high level bozz here ^^ |Cyan LightUser Cyan Light SF.jpgSnowflakes...| 15:50, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

SC and GW[edit]

I played SC(BW) and can state that in PvP there, you merely have two playstyles. It may be balanced but you cannot say that it grants diversity. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 13:10, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

(Hijacking discussion)
And guild wars does? Not in the least. You run the most overpowered gimmick or you lose. In SC, each race offers a plethora of options, the majority of which are viable even in competitive play. There are some builds/tactics which are the most effective at pumping out scourges or dropping reavers the quickest, but it's not like Guild Wars where you have to run Gimmick A or you lose to it. -Auron 13:14, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Did I imply that? No, it's just that your example does not show a game which is in any apsect better. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 13:16, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
It's better in a billion ways, some of which are coincidence and some are plain better design. SC is a RTS, which means no annoying PvE grind, no maxing out sillyass titles to get into groups/clans, and, in top-tier matches, victory or defeat relies solely upon the single player. Guild Wars requires a ton of grind (either via making a PvE char and getting it ready for PvP, which is slow and expensive, or making a PvP char, grinding 15,000+ balth faction, and buying skills that way). High end PvP is even harder to get into - instead of just playing matches and being recognized as good, you have to grind daily ATs to get enough QP to get to the monthly, where you play for four hours straight, pray that you don't have anyone error, and pray that the other team isn't running hexes, sinsplit, smite heroes, rspike, ritspike, bloodspike, airspike, hyper-defensive rawr build (bsurge/DA/aegis/ward) with a spike... yeah. The only diversity in Guild Wars is "which gimmick will they play today?" not "which 8 bars will they put together to make a build with which they can outskill opponents?" (the latter of which is the sign of a balanced game).
Starcraft is more balanced. There are more unique and creative mechanics than Guild Wars has (in SC, each unit is its own mechanic, in addition to the overall mechanics of the race). ANet can't manage a fraction of that many mechanics - hexes are a completely broken concept, no matter how you look at them, conditions have been a shitty force-em-down-the-enemy's-throat since the mistake of a skill they call Bsurge was created, and individual mechanics (spirits, weapon spells, shouts, shadowsteps, crits) are all too difficult (or simply impossible) to feasibly counter. The only mechanic balance they almost succeeded at was a balance of physical damage and physical hate - although now, casters have such ridiculous amounts of damage that you can pack 8 defensive (anti-physical) bars and still have enough caster damage to spike a target to death. Simply retarded in terms of balanced.
All of that contributes to Guild Wars' lack of balance, and from all that comes Guild Wars' lack of diversity. -Auron 13:31, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Oh no, you have to grind in an IRPG, unbelievable! Hey, and do you like the diversity behind 4Pool rush, sunken colony rush, siege tank defense, wraith rush, Berserker 10 minute rush, dragoon roller? Or that units of equal level do not have equal power? Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 13:49, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Nice new design[edit]

hey Noctarch i haven't seen you recently im sorry i been juggling 3 jobs + school i hope to play with you soon. :D anyway i been missing you. by the way nice new userpage layout. KellyLSB 16:55, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

As am I missing you... and this new design is a grand gift of Wyn, the Wiki goddess Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 16:57, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
well i hope to see you soon right now im going shopping i might be on later today around maybe somewhere in the times of 4-9pm GMT - 5 (Eastern Standard Time)... oh and im sad you joined a different guild and not mine :( eh whatever games are supposed to be fun lol :D KellyLSB 17:00, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
I thought you would not return and I'd never join a guild where I do not know anyone. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 17:11, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
I'd never leave im Third in command practically i <3 Guild Wars its mostly school, work, and holidays been restricting me KellyLSB 00:09, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Character pages[edit]

Ok... check this and tell me what you think. Obviously anything can still be added/removed. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 10:03, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

=) That's pretty nice. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 10:08, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
I replaced your derv page with my template to see how it worked with your nav bar. Atm, I can't change the profession icon from the tango icon (I'm looking into that however :D). If you don't like it please feel free to revert.--Wyn's Talk page Wyn 12:05, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
By the way, do you look at the content you work into the templates? Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 18:24, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
If you mean do I read what I copy over, then yes, (corrected a couple issues) but other than blatant spelling/typos, I don't change it, I'm not editing, I'm simply doing layout/design. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 18:40, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
^^° Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 18:54, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Pre-searing contact[edit]

If you want to hunt Charr with me, do some death levelling sessions together or buy runes in pre-searing ascalon, leave a message in this section. By the way, a picture of my storage character Victor that is to say his inventory:
File:User Noctarch Pre Storage.jpg
Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 21:22, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Nice inventory ;) |Cyan LightUser Cyan Light SF.jpgSnowflakes...| 11:15, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Honor to the honorable >:-) Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 12:33, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Well said =D |Cyan LightUser Cyan Light SF.jpgSnowflakes...| 13:19, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
wtb charr bags for post searing toons, pst -User Auron csig.png Auron 13:21, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
If you can manage to get a character there, feel free to do so. You may, of course, pay in post. I for myself cannot bring them to post. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 13:36, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Izzy's talk page[edit]

Quoting: "...non-useful and inappropriate discussion may be removed entirely. This is left to admin discretion. Those who do not follow these rules or revert an admin acting on these rules may be blocked without further warning.". You may want to revert your last edit.--Fighterdoken 22:18, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

No, this is arbitrary, weak in defense and reminds me of of historical failures. This contradicts the principles of justice; No accusing and punishing without the separation of powers, controlling of the judges, potential revision of laws and fair lawsuits. This is going to emulate the postion Catholic Church of the late Middle Ages. No, I will not surrend to uncontrollable arbitrariness. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 22:24, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
The uncontrollable arbitrariness right was granted by the community. You still have proper ways to adress your concern regarding the removal of text (be it arbcomm, admin noticeboard, talking it out with the admin in question, etc); forcing the inclussion, on the hand, is not a "proper way".--Fighterdoken 22:30, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
It would show the quality of an admin or whatever directing person to point at those instances in the first place and not after a parol. If you explain me how to use any of the above "complaint" options, I'd bow to that. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 22:33, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
I am sure that, if you visit any of the mentioned sections, you will find instructions for filling up a request.--Fighterdoken 22:37, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
There are people who never saw the page for the ominous "arbcomm".. *sigh* then I will look around... Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 22:43, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
By the way, the wiki isn't real life. Your examples of "historical failures" have no relevance here. --User Pling sig.png Brains12 \ talk 22:58, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
For the record, by that logic hunting down internet pedophilia would be meaningless as the crim has no relevance. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 14:47, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Paedophilia is illegal. Removing posts on a wiki about Guild Wars isn't. You can't analogise paedophilia and the real-life brutalities or censorship of a time period hundreds of years ago to the removal/moving of posts from an inappropriate place on a game wiki which has made clear what the guidelines are. Make your jokes anywhere else, your 'freedom of expression' isn't being censored. Just realise that there are certain places where certain comments don't belong, places which have been chosen by the community. --User Pling sig.png Brains12 \ talk 15:56, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Halp halp! I'm being oppressed! Someone please remove this comment as spam, the irony would keep me in stitches for days Misery 16:06, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Comparing is not equating. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 16:29, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Greetings & Salutations![edit]

Merry Christmas! --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 02:30, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

=) I <3 randomness ^__^. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 02:32, 25 December 2008 (UTC)


If you are going to add all the fancy formatting code to messages, make sure you do it correctly, i.e. close all your tags so they don't spill out to other's posts. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn/talk 12:59, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

The keypad I amusing here does not work correctly regarding the shift key... that's why the end-tag equaled the begin-tag. (and some other keys are sticky too <.<) Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 13:02, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
Then I suggest you get a new keyboard, they are cheap :P --Wyn's Talk page Wyn/talk 13:03, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
Impossible, it's a university computer... at home I can make love with my G11 =P .. yes, make love *even moar =P'ing* Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 13:05, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Argh >.>[edit]

I need to use show preview more often....thanks for fixing that :) --User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 01:23, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

I really thought the guild icon was 40px (like a joke you know) - hovering revealed we both were wrong^^ Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 01:24, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Somehow the picture in the user box is blackened out... you may fix that I fix my need for sleep Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 01:27, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Huh...thats really odd. I'll check it out. --User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 01:29, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
(edit) Okay, it looks like it mended itself. I'm not sure exactly what happened there. Maybe the image just needed to catch up when I moved it....ah well. Its up now. --User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 01:33, 13 January 2009 (UTC)


Long time no speak... Are you here? <3 |Cyan LightUser Cyan Light SB.jpgHere!| 16:14, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

I am omnipresent yet I doubted you want me around. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 17:15, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Nice of you.... Please don't be always negative if you get some attention =( |Cyan LightUser Cyan Light SB.jpgHere!| 20:18, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
I'd be less negative if you were more online.. and some other folks. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 23:15, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Im sorry for that and before... This week Im very inactive on Gw because I have exams.... |Cyan LightUser Cyan Light SB.jpgHere!| 13:36, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Sorry cannot hex nor heal :( Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 23:26, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Then I need to make them =( It's a sad world..... |Cyan LightUser Cyan Light SB.jpgHere!| 07:50, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Your name...[edit]

Is it supposed to look like User Halogod35 Noctarch fail.jpg? -- Halogod35 TALK TO ME NAO plz. :D 15:39, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

That's what it looks like to me :< -Auron 15:42, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
I dont have that weird Number Stuff in there... looks fine for me. --SilentStorm Talk to me 15:44, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Huh. xD -- Halogod35 TALK TO ME NAO plz. :D 15:48, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) User SilentStorm Noctarch.jpg thats how it looks for me (and I think how its supposed to look) --SilentStorm Talk to me 15:48, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
I kinda like the numbers more lol. -- Halogod35 TALK TO ME NAO plz. :D 15:51, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
>:-( Could you rename your image? Archons don't fail - if they perish it's part of their diabolic plan ;-P Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 16:08, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Nevah! -- Halogod35 TALK TO ME NAO plz. :D 20:39, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
In normal circumstances, I see a box, like my computer is unfamiliar with the character. The rest of it looks fine.-- User Vanguard VanguardLogo.pnganguard 20:54, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Actually, I'd like to see 100px. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 12:09, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Lol you wish. o: -- Halogod35 User Halogod35 Sig.jpg 15:06, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
Lol less, play more. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 15:45, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Yves Rocker[edit]

So, hier hin Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 02:13, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

500pxƝoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 02:24, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Hmm... Why the hell is your main drive under E? -- Halogod35 User Halogod35 Sig.jpg 21:00, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
Why the hell don't you get that
a) you better not install games on your main drive
b) this is not me (I cannot get a title ande see it in an outpost)
<.<Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 21:16, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
Ande? Lol nice... -- Halogod35 User Halogod35 Sig.jpg
A special improved "and". It's super-e-lectronic this way. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 01:43, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
xD You're so awesome, and now that I look at your user page.. I think it's pretty. <_< -- Halogod35 User Halogod35 Sig.jpg 01:48, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
And not up-to-date. I should use GWC less and GWW more. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 01:53, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
PS: My dervish weared black elite sunspear and destroyer gloves. His skills focuse around Avatar of Grenth and the cheapest damage chain of the assassin. I feel kind of copied by Miss von Bergen <.< Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 02:11, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
I saw a dervish that looked exactly like that, and used that same build except with pain inverter. xD -- Halogod35 User Halogod35 Sig.jpg 03:20, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

eternal aura[edit]

  • When this Enchantment ends, all other Dervish Skills are recharged.

it isn't meant to recharge itself or copies of itself. --Cursed Angel Q.Q 13:27, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Ah, Ah. Wording! Try echoing Mark of Protection (it DOES deactivate other copies of itself). Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 13:32, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Skip that I had something different in mind <__<. However, what I wanted to say is, that this is an "other" of existence not identity. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 13:35, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Mark of Protection states it disable ALL protection skills. A correct cross-reference would be to echo gift of health, notice that gift of health DOES not disable other copies of gift, which means that it disables all other skills which are not gift of health.Pika Fan 13:39, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
At the very least, have the brains to compare with something similar.Pika Fan 13:40, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Read "Skip that I had something different in mind <__<." And this all might be a hint that the programmer's approac to defining other is very different from the usual other ;| Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 13:47, 4 March 2009 (UTC)