User talk:Sum Mesmer Guy/Archive 3

Woot! Blank talk page! — ク Eloc 貢 21:26, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

as blank as you can call a talk page with a mini-userpage on the top xP —ZerphaThe Improver 01:30, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't know what u mean...--Sum Mesmer Guy 19:12, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

that ;) —ZerphaThe Improver 15:55, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Lensor

Hey can you put "& Lensor" beside my name where you put credit, thanks --Shadowphoenix 19:57, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

done--Sum Mesmer Guy 20:09, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Support

Thanks for the support in my RfA. It unfortunately failed, but I'm looking forward to the next time! --People of Antioch talk 17:15, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

"Auron violates NPA all the time and sysops do jack shit about it"

Links or it didn't happen. Thanks. -Auron 18:24, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

i'm simply reporting. ask shadow over at guildwiki for liks.--Sum Mesmer Guy 18:27, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Wrong answer. Don't spout off unless you can defend your argument. -Auron 18:28, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

who the fuck do you think you are, telling me what's right and wrong?--Sum Mesmer Guy 18:29, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

You claiming I violated NPA is disparaging my character, and thus is a violation of NPA in itself. Unless you provide evidence, you're just insulting me. -Auron 18:30, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Well to be honest, I agree that I may have went a bit overboard with the warnings; but when I stepped back and looked at the wiki as a whole, I saw how much curuption there is. For example, I have seen Auron break NPA many, many times and he has never been blocked for it; here are some examples: "Other people kept the discussion going by posting mostly stupid comments, but he never left his talk page in his quest to find out if Gaile gets special treatment", "So nobody's going to have the balls to come out and say the double standards are rampant", "Gaile's blind zealot fanbois will support anything she says or does, no matter how rude or condescending it is; every unfunny post she makes on guru or GWO is followed by pages of "LOL UR SO FUNNY CAN I LICK YOUR SHOES GAILE" kind of posts.", "Gaile and AP are allowed to shit on people all they want and the blind zealots go out of their way to make sure that shitting-on is a one-way street - any semblance of resistance is punished immediately and harshly", "Nobody cares about your opinion. I'm commenting on Kougar's talk page, not Gaile's; your criticisms are not only unwanted, but wrong to boot", "I'M GLAD SHITWAY IS SO FUCKING BALANCED.

THANKS FOR THE GREAT GAME, ARENANET.

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HOLY SHIT, BALANCE ISN'T THAT HARD A CONCEPT", "I think your stance on the matter is hypocritical, and thus null", "if you aren't an admin, shut the fuck up", "Nobody wants to hear your condescending crap", "it's me telling you not to act like an asshat". I could keep going but then my page would get to big. My point is Ryudo did something far less worse then what Auron has doen yet Auron has never ever gotten blocked for it. Why? Because he has friends all throughout the wiki, so does that exempt him from the rules? It shouldn't but it has. --Shadowphoenix 17:45, 9 April 2008 (UTC)- from her talk page on guildwiki.--Sum Mesmer Guy 18:32, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

anything more to say?--Sum Mesmer Guy 18:43, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes. "Other people kept the discussion going by posting mostly stupid comments, but he never left his talk page in his quest to find out if Gaile gets special treatment" <- who did I personally attack there?

"So nobody's going to have the balls to come out and say the double standards are rampant" <-- more of the same. "Balls" is a vulgar word, but in case you missed it, isn't a violation of NPA.

"Gaile's blind zealot fanbois will support anything she says or does, no matter how rude or condescending it is; every unfunny post she makes on guru or GWO is followed by pages of "LOL UR SO FUNNY CAN I LICK YOUR SHOES GAILE" kind of posts." <-- where's the NPA violation here? I couldn't find one.

"Gaile and AP are allowed to shit on people all they want and the blind zealots go out of their way to make sure that shitting-on is a one-way street - any semblance of resistance is punished immediately and harshly" Same deal. Gaile and AP are allowed, by forum administrators, to be downright rude (i.e., shit on people). Me pointing that out isn't disparaging their character or personally attacking them; their own posts on forums disparage their character quite well without any help from me.

"Nobody cares about your opinion. I'm commenting on Kougar's talk page, not Gaile's; your criticisms are not only unwanted, but wrong to boot" <-- rude, but true. if I said "nobody cares about your opinion because you're stupid" or something, it would have been a personal attack. As it stands, it isn't one.

My userpage rant? You really think that violates NPA? All I can say is; wow.

"I think your stance on the matter is hypocritical, and thus null" <-- uh, point out the personal attack, please.

"if you aren't an admin, shut the fuck up" <-- ditto for this one. Is it personal in any way, shape or form? It's a request.

"Nobody wants to hear your condescending crap" First one you've posted that isn't a total waste of time to read.

"it's me telling you not to act like an asshat" Taken out of context, naturally. Read the entire discussion and maybe you'll be able to comprehend its meaning.

In the end, you (Shadowphoenix) simply don't understand No Personal Attacks. It isn't "No profanity," it isn't "Don't be a dick," it is simply NO PERSONAL ATTACKS. Is that really so hard to understand? -Auron 21:12, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Ya. First, is good to see a rant into the owner's userpage instead of, let's say, Ascalon, so thumbs up there. Second, same as with CA, Liche, or several others, if you feel he broke (or breaks constantly) NPA and has not been sanctioned, that is more than likely because none has bothered to report him formally. If you really feel that he should be told to "hush", the proper procedure is to gather the relevant information (as in links), report him on the admin noticeboard, let admins decide, and if the answer is not satisfactory appeal to arbcomm. Otherwise, just "ranting" will accomplish nothing in the long run.--Fighterdoken 19:13, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

hey, no need to give me bullcrap, i'm simply reporting what was said. don't shoot the messenger. if you have a problem sort it out with SP, not me.--Sum Mesmer Guy 10:45, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Am doing so. Thanks for parroting in the meantime. -Auron 11:16, 10 April 2008 (UTC)