Talk:Reiko

Name meaning

Reikoku is japanese for heartless, relentless, ruthless. Worth of being mentioned? ~Nohjo 13:39, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

I would not want to add it yet untill we know her personality better. The actions and beliefs of the ministery of purity would support it but it's a bit to soon if you ask me. We would not want a farfetched trivia. Da Mystic Reaper 15:12, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Reiko is a name what you are doing is like saying "hey obama has hussein as his second name so he has to be related to saddam hussein" only cause there is a "Reiko" in "Reikoku" doesnt mean it is related also as long as there every name in GW is written in katakana you can't argue on the base of both use the same kanji 78.35.136.84 21:30, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, the only difference is that Reiko's name is chosen, and often devs like to put little references in those names. I have a feeling Reiko's actions will be far from pure and more on the heartless, ruthless kind.~Nohjo 21:36, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Are you people serious? Japanese does not work like that. The characters for reikoku are 冷酷; 冷(rei) means cold, 酷 (koku) means cruel. See how there's only 2 characters? You can't shorten koku into just ko without using a different character and thus changing the meaning of the entire word. Reiko is a proper noun and uses different characters altogether. The character for Rei could be a number of things, depending on what meaning the parents want to give their daughter (see here), but the character for ko is always 子, meaning child. There is absolutely no correlation between this NPCs name and the word reikoku. --Musha 08:20, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Correct, but, for the record, the two most common ways of writing the name Reiko in Japanese are 麗子 (meaning "pretty girl") and 礼子 (meaning "polite girl, courteous girl").--74.103.157.38 10:49, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

That is assuming ANet knows how Japanese characters work and didn't just get the name by looking at the romanized words. However, with John Stumme being a huge anime fan, I bet he saw the name during an anime he recently watched and thought "that's a good name for Winds of Change!" Konig/talk 13:45, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Actually, the Japanese themselves do it all the time in TV shows and movies, give characters names that are shortened version of a word that describes them. Ramei Arashi 06:51, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, maybe in anime. Which, surprise, ISN'T the way Japanese actually do things. But that seems to be the only thing people "know" about Japan and then they think they know how the Japanese do things. --Musha 00:12, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

It is official now. Reiko's name has no meaning, it's just a name, regardless of the clever meanings people were trying to guess at. On John Stumme's talk page he says, "Reiko's name doesn't hold any special significance. I was really stuck on a proper name for her, so I asked my good friend Kim Kirsch for a name, and Reiko is what I got. I liked the feel, so I went with it." Kinda too bad. I was hoping for something more thematic. --Musha 18:32, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

On the contrary, Children are given names in the hopes they will become something in the future and a with a meaning imparted to such a name to steer them into a desired future. God forbid you give your child a name that give them a negative future (Reiko is cold child), yet again we decide our own futures. The Japaense actually do this to their children because they want the best to become of them. The same goes for given names in other languages (yet less often as most names in English, etc have no meanings), but I never seen anyone live up to their namesakes in real life. I'm sure I'm not anyone's "beloved" (you can figure what real name I have from this) beyond that of being this to my parents and family alone.Yumiko ^,~ 20:28, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

And before you make any counter arguments for my reasoning, I am a writer so I do lots of research to support my assumptions and theories!Yumiko ^,~ 20:34, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

People do indeed do that - you don't even need to research it. Ironically most people turn to contradict their name in real life (while in written works they follow their names meaning, however that's mostly because the names were chosen after the character's personality and/or plot purpose is chosen). Regardless, Reiko's name has no meaning. Konig/talk 20:54, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Wiki info

How come no one is updating pages with new information from Winds of Change part 2? We now know she's Reiko Yuudachi, aunt to Ashu and Miku. And that she is as her name indicates. If Abaddon wasn't dead I'd say she was another of his demons. Ramei Arashi 00:37, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Is it just me or is she kind of similar to Hitler? Ranting about how there is hope for the country if you follow my Ministry and wage war on our enemies and that those that get in the way shall be killed. Me And My Sin

I think that's an intentional similarity. I think this page should be renamed to either "Reiko" (NPC name) or "Reiko Yuudachi" (full name). -- Kirbman 03:22, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Yeah let's add the note of the Ministry of Purity being similar to the SA or even KKK as they also wear only white 84.44.209.52 13:22, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Under the "Timeline - 1582 CC", Reiko's last name is NOT Yuudachi, but is in fact Murakami. [1] Windjinni 08:27, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Okay then lets move her to Reiko Murakami. -- Kirbman 14:44, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Disagree with moving it. It should remain what is seen in game. Reiko is shown as Minister Reiko during the one current encounter with her. Therefore, her article should be "Minister Reiko." Konig/talk 16:51, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

It seems fine where it is today. After WoC part 3 is out and 80% documented, then it's worth revisiting how articles are named. Before that, it just confuses everyone when the wiki moves stuff around. 75.36.181.22 16:56, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Konig. Don't move the page. Steve1 19:15, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

If not moved, I suggest a redirect from Reiko Murakami to this page(or vice-verse), as I entered the wiki looking for Murakami, not minister Reiko, and was disappointed. Кγʃε ʅʃαπ ƌεᴦ Ϻεεᴦ 16:05, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

A redirect of Reiko Murakami makes sense (though a redirect from Murakami does not, and a redirect from Reiko is possible). Since overall consensus appears to me to be in favor of keeping Minister Reiko (as that's how it should be per all pages that don't have exceptions), I'll create that redirect and remove the tag. Konig/talk 16:20, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Actually during that one encounter her name is shown as "Reiko" and not "Minister Reiko" which is why I suggested the change in the first place. Please reread my first comment. -- Kirbman 05:42, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Interesting because I recall seeing Minister Reiko during A Chance Encounter. However, according to the wiki page, my memory seems to be off in which case the article name should simply be Reiko - not Minister Reiko or Reiko Murakami. Konig/talk 16:06, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

she's a Guild Wars 2 mesmer?

She summons phantasms. Ramei Arashi 06:48, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Hah, didn't realize this.76.88.127.158 08:15, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

This only proves the argument that mesmers are too different from the original form incorrect. >:) Konig/talk 08:39, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Was going to say the same thing, she uses phantoms and "illusory images of the caster" Lokheit 11:12, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

But it's not as far "a very good foretaste of what it will look like to fight a Guild Wars 2 Mesmer". GW2's Phantasms seem to be ghostly copies of the caster that have their own equipment and builds(if they even have skills), and Clones look like the caster, but has way less health and use only a weak version of the Mesmer's first slot skill. Reiko's clones have entire builds, and reiko's Phantasms copy any anemy with their entire builds. MithTalk 15:01, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

But the basics are still the same, an imitation of the caster used for battle. Da Mystic Reaper 15:11, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

This reminds me of the time I stuck three copies of Project Image into a chain contingency back during my Baldur's Gate solo days. It was the stupidest, most overpowered mechanism ever: the copies got copies of everything you used and/or had with virtually no restrictions, and the only penalty was that the caster was paralyzed. Since the contingency fired all three at once, I got the sadistic pleasure of controlling three copies of myself deliver an entire 50-spell-per-copy payload in under the span of six seconds, which is naturally followed by the copies casting their own copies of Project Image, ad nauseum.

Reiko is amateur hour. I don't think she can even stop time. –Jette 16:53, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

What's a foretaste? --Ph03n1x 19:33, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

*ad nauseam

A sample of what has yet to come. 88.152.23.138 20:23, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

I figured; I just hadn't ever heard the word before. It sounds weird. --Ph03n1x 08:43, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Move suggestion (again)

In September/October (see above), we decided (in theory) that the article should be titled "Reiko" (based on her in-game name during A Chance Encounter). She appears in the game again during The Final Confrontation, where she is represented as Reiko. Shouldn't we stick with using the in-game name as a default article title (unless there are extremely compelling circumstances)? Aside from inertia, is there any reason why we shouldn't move the page? – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 18:57, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

I think the name used should be the one most often used for the NPC itself. For example, Mhenlo's page isn't "Priest Mhenlo", although dialogues sometimes refer to him like that. MithTalk 20:14, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Agreed. Any dissent? -- Kirbman 05:16, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

We're waiting on Reiko to be deleted so move is possible by non-admins. Konig/talk 17:01, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Done. ;) — Why 19:02, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 21:59, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! -- Kirbman 04:19, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Hero

Shame she didn't become our third mesmer hero. Xun Rao could've been the final boss instead. Wish a tonic form of her existed. =( Wolcott (talk) 13:56, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

She did have a pretty cool skin, but then we would have gotten three heroes over the course of two walkthroughs.

Did she die in the end?

I just slaughtered her in the last mission and yet I never saw her body hit the floor. Also, there was her rant of how if she died she would become a martyr and so forth. However, everyone talks as if we just killed her. Is she truly dead or not?