Guild Wars Wiki talk:Adminship/Draft C

Hm.

I oppose. With this policy I think we are moving away from what we are trying in other policy drafts. Also a 12 month term for bcrats is bad as we have to remember that Guild Wars (1) won't live for eternity and at least I would have a problem to be fixed for 12 months in a position like that on a wiki. poke | talk 01:49, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

"Sysops are granted reasonable discretion, but they are expected to apply policy rigorously and respect consensus." <-- My reason for opposing this policy. *Defiant Elements* +talk 01:50, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Sysops are too limited in this draft. Same reasons as DE and Poke. Oppose. Calor 01:53, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

I am also bothered by the "...but they are expected to apply policy rigorously..." it implies too much literal interpretation of policy, and limits their discretionary abilities to take action. So I will have to oppose this as well.-- Wynthyst 02:00, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Ummm, that is in the current policy...... --Shadowphoenix 18:09, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

"Sysops are granted reasonable discretion, but they are expected to apply policy rigorously and respect consensus", Taken from the current policy; I figured that this was liked and u guys would want it to stay, but I will happily remove it if you would like (as I do not agree with it much either) --Shadowphoenix 18:17, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

The current policy isn't so great, hence the thousand million drafts. This is still too similar, and I think draft B is the one to push forward at the moment. -- Brains12 \ Talk 18:59, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't see the value of this as a stand alone policy proposal. Particularly given the enormous numbers of proposals/ideas floating around out there, I'd much rather see the minor differences between this and Draft B discussed on the Draft B talk page and possibly integrated. *Defiant Elements* +talk 21:28, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

I wouldn't have a problem with that, lets bring it up and see what happens. --Shadowphoenix 21:31, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Here's the link to the other draft: Guild Wars Wiki:Adminship/draft B, in case someone didn't know what we're talking about. I'd talk about the proposed changes here over there as well. -- ab.er.rant 05:09, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

What's the point of giving Bureaucrats Sysop rights? Then they are basically just Sysops who have a higher level election. I'd say just keep Sysops and Bureacrats how they pretty much are right now. — ク Eloc 貢 15:22, 6 May 2008 (UTC)