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Motoko's screenshot

June 2019 mAT:

Even if that's the case, which I highly doubt, given Motokos untrustworthy history (probably photoshopped, I highly doubt Billfeist changed the meaningless outcome, as no Trim was awarded to the guild either), the guild still has no gold trim and should not be listed as a gold trim guild. 84.134.162.212 13:43, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

I didn't check in-game before the tourney results were gone. So I personally have no clue. This pic is the only evidence so far. If some trustworthy editor can guarantee that one or the other guild was victorious then that's fine for me. But so far we have a bunch of anons going on rampages and another editor (Moto) at least providing a pic. If guild xyz won that whole thing I'd assume at least some of their members took screenshots. Then they post them here and things will be clearer. Or we ask Stéphane ... ;) Steve1 (talk) 14:44, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

The guild does not have a gold trim. This page is about gold trim guilds. See https://puu.sh/DVyRb/90593f30f8.png84.134.162.212 14:58, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Actually, this page is only about a single guild. What you're refering to is Gold trim guilds. First thing I would be interested in is: Who actually won teh effing June tourney. Since 2 guilds claim this.

And Motoko also marked the cape trim as silver on this page - so nothing wrong with that?!

Afterwards, we can discuss whether the June winner should be included in aforementioned list (which I'm in favour of, since they won a tourney - otherwise I'd propose to change that page's name to "tourney winners list" or some such) or not (since there seems to hve been some problem with the winner not receiving a gold trim).

And as I said - I didn't check in-game which team won the June mAT. So at the moment all I have / the wiki has is the screenshot.

Oh, and if one guild won and ANet stripped their gold trim before it was even handed out (We Are Six Inches Enchanted [avg] had theirs removed afterwards, but that would be similar. But back then the 2nd place finisher didn't get a gold instead iirc) I would just not add any team to our gold trim list. But that's something I don't know. So far there has just been accusations been flung around back and forth and no evidence really. Steve1 (talk) 19:21, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

steve you can clearly see this screenshot is a manipulated one. look at the swiss pairing, the idiot forgot about the pts. how can a team place first with less points than the team in 2nd place? its manipulated, Be Advancet[en] won the tournament, this motoko person(idk who he is but apparently we smashed his guild 3 times in the past 2 tournaments) just waited for a new tournament to upload this forget screenshot, since tolkano doesnt display the real information anymore. if they really won, you think this salty pver would wait a whole month to claim his victory? edit: https://imgur.com/a/YVjHnPL --->screenshot of the actual real information with the real winning guild as winner. also idk where to go to for this, but can some admin or mod be kind enough to help us restore the page like it was before this no life piece of 2nd tier vandal ruined it? also can we punish him for blatantly lying in here?+being too dumb to actually forge it properly??

I would expect this type of comment from a botting player who has failed to understand the basic principles of Guild Wars. The swiss ranks change as the elimination rounds proceed. If the 1st ranked swiss team loses in the first round of elims, they will move down the swiss rankings after the fact. It is unfortunate that we even let any of [en] have a voice anywhere in the community after their blatant and admitted botting. [en] players are toxic and only serve to troll, damage, and ultimately kill off the remaining PvP player base. Once Anet gets a good look at the [en] matches, the entire guild will be banned and forced to restart their .dll Gladiator Motoko (talk) 21:21, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

i'd expect forging screens and lying about winning from someone who has been lying in this game for years i.e some pver called motoko. shall we talk about your g12? lets put personal insults aside though, its worthless, i dont get offended by some dude whose pubes look like he just raped a bag of cheetos. so that aside, you have ONE screenshot. against a solid background so its easier to photoshop. we have tons because it was literally our first mAT win. and why did you wait for tolkano to stop showing the real information to make these claims?

Hi Maxbotto, I'm just a normal poster like you. So no need to convince me. I'm just trying to figure out what is going on and why we've been "enjoying" edit wars and insults for a month now.

As Motoko pointed out, the ranking in the swiss round reflects the single elim, as can be seen in your own screenshot as well.

I took the possibility of a photoshopped pic into account, hence my naming of the pic and the header. The background struck me as rather suspicious. Nevertheless, as pointed out before: It was the only proof available at that moment. And as you pointed out: Timing, Tolkano and such. ;)

My personal non-admin advice to anyone posting here: Refrain from personal attacks and stick to facts. Good night, Steve1 (talk) 21:41, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

And my statement as an admin is that both of you (Motoko and Maxbotto, obviously not Steve1) are blocked for personal attacks. Whatever the matter of the tournament results, that's unacceptable behavior on the wiki. - Tanetris (talk) 22:09, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Maxbotto's screenshot

June 2019 mAT:

also this https://i.imgur.com/PVjlGX8.jpg. it shows we won. we had a bye in finals. motoko never got this tournament window saying finals bc they lost on semis. can some mod/admin help us revert the page back? thank you god bless u all

admin help?

hi I am a core member of [en]. There is enough evidence, in my humble opinion, that shows [en] won June's tournament. To briefly sum it up: 1-why did motoko wait a whole month to claim the team who lost vs [en] won the mAT? 2-there are 2 screenshots, 1 showing the real tournament standings(in which you can see the background, unlike motokos screenshot in which he carefully picked a solid background so its easier to manipulate), and a screenshot showing us waiting in guild hall, when we got the bye in finals. motokos guild, yawn didnt get this window because they were eliminated in semi-finals. 3-about [en] not getting gold, exactly the same situation happened with guild Gods Of Mortalz[gwam] in August 2018. the guild is still in the gold trim guilds table as a winning guild, and in almost a year no one ever questioned, so I ask [en] gets the same treatment. Consistency matters -->https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Guild:Gods_Of_Mortalz 4-lastly, is motoko not getting any repercussions from this behavior? vandalizing our guild page, removing it, adding a team that lost and forging a screenshot on Photoshop to try and fool everyone here? is this the sort of behavior we want to allow on Wiki. Surely it sets a really bad precedent Also I apologize for my guild mate max, he was frustrated after having our wiki page being vandalized over and over again, removed, and then having our win questioned with fake evidence! doesnt excuse his behavior and the ban is probably good so he cools off a bit, but just giving you guys the context. Thank you very much Fisto (talk) 11:42, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, Motoko is right. You're a botter and you didn't win. It is only a matter of time before you get banned from the wiki and this game. 165.225.35.10 13:23, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

So motoko, you ran out of arguments and you're doing the usual go on an alt and agree with yourself trick once more? that is irrelevant, you say we bot but that is just your opinion. we won the tournament and yawn placed 2nd. that is just how things happened and lets stick to the facts ok? --Fisto (talk) 13:48, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

More Screenshots proving [en] won June's mAT

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/602243630043889793/602840592791240721/gw017.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/602243630043889793/602840636449619969/gw019.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/602243630043889793/602840613351849984/gw018.jpg

screenshots provided by another member of the winning team, marc sorry I dont know how to upload images so did it like this :D can we speed things up, or are we going to give Mr Motoko more time to photoshop some more stuff? --Fisto (talk) 12:39, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

Just show the Goldcape. That should be proof enough. 165.225.35.10 17:34, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

Can we ban the botters from wiki?

All I see is a bunch of botting players complaining that their attempts to cheat haven't legitimized. 165.225.35.10 13:22, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

Forget Screenshot

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/594572993833861130/602892887843405824/222cec.jpg

motoko admitting he photoshopped the screenshot. can the admins do something about this please?--Fisto (talk) 16:59, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

What is there to do? [en] does not have a gold trim and neither does [yAwn]. Neither guild has a place on the gold trim list. 165.225.35.10 17:03, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

[yawn] for sure has no place. you lost the match, as you lost both times we faced eachother this month(starting to see a pattern?) and out of sheer spite you removed both [gwam] and [en] from the list. both guilds won the tournament, just didnt get a gold cape because of what is a bug, since the devs never expected this to happen. it was a nice try though motoko. glad you took the time out of your busy life to photoshop the screenshots. did you do that on saturday? you had plenty of time, since we finished you in about 5minutes ;) --Fisto (talk) 17:24, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

? I didn't play the mAT. I don't know who you are talking to. [gwam] and [en] both do not have gold trims and therefor should not be on this list. 165.225.35.10 17:33, 22 July 2019 (UTC)