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Was that shit you guys were running in HA last night? Not to mention it didn't help that I was a terribad primal... King Neoterikos 20:40, 23 February 2010 (UTC)


I saw someone today on a [GG] tag.... I don't know if it could be a member from Get Good or not. The person's ign is Vincent Marhskalk. You're welcome. Rodan (talk) 22:57, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

A confirmation of a cape would help a lot more than a tag, but I suppose I can message him. Thanks! Gladiator Motoko (talk) 23:06, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

With regard to the [avg] Guild page[edit]

Please desist from speculative accusations, confirmation of identity for six [avg] players is publicly available. The same amount of rigor is expected to confirm the identity of the remaining two players. If you continue to post potentially defamatory and spurious material your account will be reported. Please edit in accordance with the wiki guidelines. Kind regards, Hadley. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) at 05:30, 4 July 2014‎ (UTC).

These are not "speculative accusations". These are "rigorous confirmations" I have completed and pursued personally. In the future, please refrain from making false accusations and threats against me or your account will be reported. Please accept the investigated results and any consequences you may be feeling as a result. Kind regards, Motoko. Gladiator Motoko (talk) 07:45, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Your account has been reported due to defamation and failure to conform to editing standards of rigor. Until you provide evidence, your claims are by definition "speculative accusations" at best and libelous at worst. If you did have non-trivial, non hearsay evidence I'm sure you would have provided it already. Please take the time to learn rudimentary logic before posting again. Kind regards, Hadley.

I am sorry you are upset by the results of my "standards of rigor". My "speculative accusations" are supported by the players who played in [avg]. If you are upset with your lack of "rudimentary logic", it is probably best if you speak with one of the core 8 [avg] players to discuss this with them. King regards, Motoko. Gladiator Motoko (talk) 17:36, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
Do you have... screenshots? Vent recordings? Anything? "Proof" kinda requires more than hearsay. I could say I talked to the 8 core members and said they all denied cheating, and I'd have just as much proof on the wiki as you or this Hadley guy. When this blew up into an edit war, the entire reason I protected the page was to give all parties time to gather evidence of their claims. It wasn't to "protect" one version of the story from being tampered with. If you have evidence of specific users playing, please present it. You've been called out, it takes a little more than "but I said so" to win a wiki debate.
On that topic, though, you should also refrain from telling people to leave a specific page alone. It is a public wiki, and every person has the "right" to edit any page on it. If you have some kind of hard evidence to back up a specific revision of the page, that's the kind of stuff you'd post on the talk page of the article to prevent further edit wars. Just reverting incessantly and telling people off on their IP's talk page isn't how wikis work. The only "official" word on this whole situation is that ArenaNet removed their cape trim, most likely for hacking/cheating, but anything past that is still up in the air. Nothing has been "proven." -Auron 04:07, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Usage of Feedback Spaces[edit]

Hey Motoko,

Just as an FYI, one of the advantages of the Feedback space on this wiki is that it allows for multiple people to discuss a topic. ANet can hear different perspectives etc., so they can hopefully resolve issues more effectively. Just because someone else responded before ANet, it doesn't mean that ANet won't respond.

We encourage other people to provide feedback, and if you do not wish to read what they say, you don't have to; ANet may be interested, though. Hopefully Mr. Kimmes will get back to you before leaving the office today. G R E E N E R 22:46, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Hey Greene! I am all for discussion and nurturing healthy conversations about topics. However, in this case I just wanted an answer from Joe whether the idea was possible and if it was something he would proactively look into. It would require a response from him saying "No, not going to happen" or "Yes, but ____ and _____" before setting the tone for a discussion. If I had worded that section differently ("What do you guys think about expanding the GWAMM title?") and placed it in the GWAMM section, I could see a discussion occurring... But that was not the case. I am not too hopeful that he will respond today though lol. Gladiator Motoko (talk) 00:44, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
Wikis are inherently public by nature, though. Once a post is made, it can be responded to by anyone. If Joe has an issue with people using his talk page as a forum (I'd be annoyed personally, but I'm not him) then we can look at alternatives. That's what drove the rest of the devs away from posting - they'd just get flooded with hundreds of talk page posts every week if they responded with any degree of frequency. GW is a hell of a lot more dead now, so that's unlikely, but it's still not good wiki tact to make an ostensibly public post and then balk at responses to it. Every ANet person has an email if you want to send a private message. -Auron 03:20, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
Sorry to get back to you a day later than intended, Motoko. I do get where you're coming from, and testing the waters before opening up a larger discussion makes a lot of sense.
As a side note, seeing "Hey Greene!" made me flashback to when I worked in an office... *shiver* G R E E N E R 21:13, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
lol, I'm looking for a new position myself, not really looking for anything office based myself - I've had my fair share of corporate bullshit :( Gladiator Motoko (talk) 22:17, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Low level pvp arena[edit]

I saw your comment on Joe's page ; there's another section on it about low level pvp arenas. Dmitri, Damysticreaper are working on this too (check recent changes)  :).

I'm seconding the idea to mimick journey to the north/call of the sunspears to set the level to the current limitation. Also the idea to limit the pool of skills like in codex arena has arisen. If you're interesteed too, we can chew the work together incase anet wants to make low level arenas playable once again. Best regards-- 16:21, 19 July 2015 (UTC)[edit]

1) That's a pic from the July tournament, right? So you guys beat [en] in the finals in July. And not June like the [yawn] page suggests.

2) Why change the [en] guild page to [yawn] when they're clearly 2 seperate guilds?

3) I didn't check in-game last month - but if [en] won that tourney, why overwrite their entry to the gold trim list?

4) Who's Bill Feist? ;-P

Steve1 (talk) 19:03, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

No - The July tournament is still on going. If you notice the times - that is the view and schedule for the next mAT to occur (July). Gladiator Motoko (talk) 19:07, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
To elaborate- 1) It is a pic of the June tournament. 2) User error on the wiki 3) Because they didn't win, yAwn won [see pic] - 4) Really Gladiator Motoko (talk) 19:18, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
Wasn't looking carefully. But I see that [dPac} just won.
1-3) makes sense now. 4) yeah. All ears. Steve1 (talk) 20:32, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
Unless you knew I was making a typo... Bill FRiest :( - Gladiator Motoko (talk) 02:18, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
Didn't know, no. Awesome read. Thanks. Steve1 (talk) 09:44, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

That is sadly a forged screenshot! real screenshots of what was really happening.... screenshots that were not tampered with....--Fisto (talk) 13:55, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

Can we ignore the botter Fisto? 17:11, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

1RR[edit] violates the 1RR:

And in order to help you: "If you've broken 1RR by mistake and now realize it, or if another user has left you a talk page note pointing out that you've broken 1RR, then you should self-revert your change back to the "other version," even though you may not like the previous version, and then go to the page's talk page to discuss the dispute and attempt to reach a consensus." Steve1 (talk) 15:59, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

I edited the page to reflect a better assessment of the information available and to help establish a precedent moving forward. I then 1RR your 1RR. Sounds like we should complete the discussion. No rule was broken. Thank you for your concern. Gladiator Motoko (talk) 16:35, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
You 1Red my note regarding gwam and en here: which I then 1Red. Afterwards you reverted me for a second time. That's breaking 1RR. Steve1 (talk) 16:40, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
Negative. I edited the page to reflect a better assessment of the information available and to help establish a precedent moving forward. That is not classified as a revert and therefor not applicable to the rule. Please familiarize yourself with the rules before making accusations. Gladiator Motoko (talk) 17:01, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
Over a year behind in burying this hatchet. As Spidey says, everybody gets one, but you used two: [1] [2]. I chose not to weigh-in at the time because conversations were still ongoing around the general topic. I'm glad that a middle ground was found by Steve which is both informative and easily extendable. Pressing the undo button is not a good method of establishing a precedent with which to move forward; it's actually a precedent we never wish to have. Greener (talk) 18:18, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

Having someone unfamiliar with PvP and uneducated with PvP making decisions on PvP related material is probably a bad precedent as well. Even after all of the botting gold trim edits that took place (hey would you look at that - I turned out to be right), the situation was not rectified. A lot of people lost faith in using this site for historical GvG value. I tried to help but you guys refused to understand and adapt. Also as Spidey says, with great power comes great responsibility. Sometimes neighborhoods just don't want to be saved. Gladiator Motoko (talk) 19:19, 5 September 2020 (UTC)


This could be a lot longer, but we both know what this is about. Stop lying. Stop sockpuppeting. Stop forging screenshots to trick wiki mods into supporting your silly crusades. You've been acting in bad faith on this topic since last year - the original lockdown of the section was due to your shenanigans. Because you lack community consensus, you felt the need to flagrantly sockpuppet via VPNs to add in support where it doesn't exist.
The wiki doesn't need this drama. Just stop. The next block will be permanent. -Auron 19:12, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Actually I reached out to friends who previously GvG'd to get them to add their input as well. I don't lack community consensus. You literally went to the QQ drama discord and asked for input. That is just like reaching into a sewer and asking what smells nice and finding out it smells like shit. It is really disappointing to see you actually think 3 toxic botters represent the GvG community. The original lockdown was due to botters' embarrassment from cheating and not wanting it mentioned anywhere near them. If you guys had the decency to keep the botters at bay, it would have never been an issue. Gladiator Motoko (talk) 21:08, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Here is a picture you can glue to your tinfoil hat if you'd like: - But let me guess, you'll claim this screenshot is forged and pretend the community doesn't agree with me and pretend I am out to maliciously destroy wiki. Gladiator Motoko (talk) 23:47, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
The block was made by ‪Auron‬. The reason given is disruption: Should have done this a while ago; sockpupping to fake support in a conversation is not acceptable. - Auron
It is mind blowing how ignorant you are. I suppose they ran out of decent candidates willing to moderate this site? This is why you will never succeed in life and never be in a position of power that matters. Gladiator Motoko (talk) 00:47, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Just thought I'd stop by and point out that I was entertained by the fact Auron banned me from GW Wiki for a year because he couldn't handle people siding with me against him regarding a dead game's gold trim page's management. Yikes material. Gladiator Motoko (talk) 06:31, 3 November 2021 (UTC)