Talk:Helena

NPC comments about who it was named after

RE: NPC comments about who it was named after. I think we are reaching now... I have a second cousin once removed, that has the first name Helena, the NPC was named after her. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:65.5.80.98 (talk).

Well, I'm assuming it was verified somewhere, otherwise it is quite a stretch. Nate 16:43, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Removing the note linking to a song by My Chemical Romance unless someone can give a reason for it to stay.Nate 12:33, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

I just removed the awesome part.Mcr isn't bad at all but I see no reason to force our opinions onto people :p Lilondra *panda* 13:06, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

It was named after Silverleaf. Linsey confirmed that ingame. --MageMontu 15:06, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

She did, not ingame but by other means. Made a screenie :). --Silverleaf Don't assume, Know! 16:42, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Funds

you need 50000 bath to unlock the black widow which is impossible since u can only have 10000 bath at a time

Not if you increase you GvG or Hero rank, though it's much easier(and cheaper) getting one from the UW along with 3 hero's.(marsc 20:16, 24 April 2009 (UTC))

However, one cannot get a Moss Spider without that much faction or getting very lucky opening Nicholas's gifts, as they are impossible to charm.4.88.54.151 16:21, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

That was probably intended... poke | talk 17:49, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, according to Silavor the Zaishen Naturalist they can't be tamed in the wild, and need to be raised from eggs. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 22:33, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

AB Weekend for the Moss Spider Unlock!!!!! --Silverleaf Don't assume, Know! 00:15, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Pet Unlocking

Guys, if I Pay for example a few coins and 100 gold for a White Moa with a PvE Character, will I be able to charm the animal ? Or does this unlock it only for pvp ?

Unlocked pets become available to be charmed by any character on the same account.

Most pets can be found around the Menagerie. --NIN37 00:20, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Not most, all pets are found in the Menagerie. Titani Ertan 20:13, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Except Devourers. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 01:58, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Disambiguation vs Redirect

→ moved from original redirect page of "Helena"

Shouldn't we use this page to redirect to Helena (Zaishen Keeper) and add a Disambiguation note there pointing to Helena (Tarnished Haven)? Similar disambiguation note on that page as well.
I honestly do not think many people would be searching for a specific Rare Material trader when they're looking for a NPC. :P --NIN37 01:56, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Meh, no one said anything against this idea, so here it is. :P

Revert/fix if something got broken. :P --NIN37 18:22, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

What do you get?

When you unlock a common animal for 1 silver zaishen coin and 100 gold, what tier do you unlock? Is it tier 1 and then you have to pay the other 12 silver zaishen coin and 600 gold to get to level 7? Bonus points if someone wants to do the math and say how much it would cost in zaishen coins to unlock and evolve all the common animals. Freedom Bound 17:37, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

They're unlocked at tier 1, so it would cost 338 and 18 200 to unlock all 26 common pets at tier 7. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 06:16, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! And... whoa! Freedom Bound 18:58, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

A new pet?

Anyone noticed the "..." option at Helena at the exotic animals? What is it? Lápi 11:54, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

It's the [White Jingle Moa], I found. So consider my question null. Lápi

Continent not yet visited

Not sure where to put this. Either after "Which animal are you seeking?" (once, for example, a Prophecies-only character chooses any Eye of the North pet or anything other than Warthog under Nightfall list) or when same Prophecies-only character tries to check Factions list when "I would like you to acquire a specific animal." has been chosen (instead of "Which animal are you seeking?" text).
This shows up when asking for a pet not available to a given character (probably before campaign-traveling). Not sure if character-based (campaign travel quest) or account-based (existing access keys in account); most likely to be account-based.
Shows up after choosing a non-available pet (for example, a Tyrian-only character checking a Flamingo or a Lurker).

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If asking for an animal from a campaign not yet unlocked:

That's from a continent you've not visited. To be sure the animals get the proper care, the Zaishen Order requires owners have firsthand experience in the land their pets are from. Once you've traveled more, we'd be glad to acquire that animal for you. (ends conversation)

— in-game description

Not sure if this should go before "If the animal isn't unlocked yet:" (looks bad, since there are no or icons, making it a big text of wall) or before "If all animals of the particular group have tier 7 unlock:" (looks worse, since it makes less sense to place "no pet" after "all pet"). Also, not sure if Pet Unlock Pack would allow players without Factions to have a Tiger either. --NIN37 14:41, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

out of date?

what about the page is out of date i dont remember any changes to her.... - Zesbeer 06:46, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Collector

I believe Helena is "technically" a collector; she exchanges silver and gold zaishen coins for animal and tier unlocks. --Falconeye 08:18, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Collectors don't collect gold nor Balthazar faction. --Silver Edge 08:54, 27 April 2013 (UTC)