Talk:Lava Font

Relates to Symbol of Wrath?

Shouldn't this skill relate to Symbol of Wrath? I mean they're pretty much the same except Lava Font does more damage, costs more energy, and has a shorter cooldown? This skill may be better than Symbol of Wrath, but shouldn't they still relate?
Casting time and PBAoE time is exactly the same. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.235.135.238 (talk • contribs) at 19:07, 11 May 2008 (UTC).

You're right i suppose. I added them. —ZerphaThe Improver 19:28, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

i know its pbaoe but aint constant 50dps a little overpowered? needs a little nerf maybe? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.251.165.83 (talk) at 21:32, 28 July 2009 (UTC).

it isn't constant, since you have to finish a cast before it recharges. Also, it isn't 50 dps, unless all your targets are 60 AL. StatMan 19:25, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Where are these 2 skills related? Different energy cost, different recharge, not same type of damage and not same profession, maybe its the casting time... Or the AoE behaviour? Don't think those are enough to consider both skills related.--Merloe Von D. 11:41, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

of course they are related, they are almost identical in the way they affect ennemies.. not really hard to tell --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 178.117.38.213 (talk) at 14:26, 26 August 2011 (UTC).

Related - 2017

In my opinion these are still related, in the sense that they are both initially point-blank area of effect spells that last 5 seconds, both affect adjacent range, and both remain fixed at the location they were cast. We've had a lot more related skills focus on such aspects than on energy cost, casting time, and recharge time. - Infinite - talk 13:00, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

In my opinion what makes a skill related is not merely numbers and stuff, but the "spirit" behind the skills. Lava Font is a spamable pbaoe dot that deals fire damage, something effective in most areas of the game. Symbol of Wrath is a one&done pbaoe dot that deals holy damage, something effective in select areas of the game. We don't relate Spear of Light and Ice Spear together despite both being single target projectiles that deal damage and have similar names, right? Nothing about symbol of wrath would ever make me say "hmmm, look at this related skill lava font. could be interesting" and the same the other way around. They just are not related/relevant enough to link them to each other. Flare has more in common with Lightning Javelin and they are not related. Justice (talk) 16:03, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

I concur with Infinite, 76.235.135.238, Zerpha and 178.117.38.213 because those 2 skills clearly share the "spirit" behind the skills, as Infinite pointed out. Steve1 (talk) 17:13, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Well, current vote is 2-1 to keep LF. If we take the old count of 3-1 it adds up to 5-2. Wanna do the honours, Infinite?Steve1 (talk) 19:34, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

It's not really a vote for consensus, but I will indeed make a call based on the more argumentative side of the discussion. Both sides make good points, but an incomplete comparison to refute the related claim based, on two differently behaving projectile skills (one hits the target and the other hits all targets in line towards and oppositely adjacent to the target), is not a strong argument here. - Infinite - talk 19:49, 31 January 2018 (UTC)